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Aired April 24, 2026 - 08:00   ET

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: And the parent company of Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp says that it plans to lay off roughly 10 percent of its workforce now. That's about 8,000 people losing their job in the next month. Meta says that it is using some of the cost savings to spend more aggressively on, you probably guessed it, AI.

Seen as Lisa Eadicicco joins me right now, not with your children here today. Tell us about what this announcement really means.

LISA EADICICCO, CNN BUSINESS TECH EDITOR: So if you look at the contents of that memo and what it says, they don't say AI explicitly, but they do say that they're trying to offset investments in other areas. It's pretty clear that they probably are talking about AI. And I think this kind of speaks to a trend that we're starting to see in the tech industry, not just with AI investments, but the other thing they mentioned was being more efficient.

And that's something that we're starting to see. You know, Amazon had similar language in its layoff memo. The financial tech company Block said something similar as well, that this idea that these companies believe they can move faster with fewer people, fewer layers to get through fewer approvals, things like that.

And I think that's part of this trend that we're seeing is not only do these companies say that AI is helping them get more work done, but that they just want to move more quickly. And I think it's because for these companies, there's a lot at stake here. They can't afford to fall behind.

And I think that's why they view these massive investments. We're talking billions and billions of dollars. Meta expects to spend at least 115 billion on capital expenditures, which is AI infrastructure this year alone.

And I think that's just a sign that they feel like that's a big enough -- falling behind is a big enough risk.

BOLDUAN: Yes, exactly. It's great to see you. Thank you so much for that. I appreciate your reporting.

A new hour of CNN NEWS CENTRAL starts right now. ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, these are live pictures of the Pentagon. We are standing by right now for a briefing from the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, and the Chair of the Joint Chiefs, Dan Caine.

We usually get a military briefing from the General on something of a political briefing or partisan outlook from the Defense Secretary. CNN has learned that Iran is sending a delegation to Pakistan. This is for, potentially, a new round of talks with the United States.

That's according to a Pakistani and Iranian official. Iran's top diplomat, the Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi, is expected to arrive tonight with a small delegation. Now, as I said, we don't know if it's for a new round of talks because it's unclear whether the United States will take part.

Let's get right to CNN's Nic Robertson, live in Islamabad this morning, for what you're learning, Nic.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yes, it is being reported by Pakistani government sources. We are getting it from Pakistani government sources that this will kick off the next round, the second round of U.S.-Iran talks. It's not quite clear who will be on the U.S. side. The Foreign Minister from Iran is leading the Iranian delegation expected here in Islamabad pretty soon. It was just earlier on in the day, the Iranian Foreign Minister had had phone calls with both Pakistan's Prime Minister and, again, another phone call with Pakistan's Field Marshal, most powerful man in the country. Both of those officials, Pakistani officials, have been part of the main mediation team here in Pakistan.

So the new format appears to be the Iranian who was number two at the talks last time now leads a much smaller delegation. And, as I say, not clear with who he'll meet on the U.S. side. But this does seem to sort of breathe some diplomatic life into what really had felt over the past couple of days that the talks were really, or the potential of them happening a second round were really stagnating. Precisely what he is coming back here with, Abbas Araqchi, is coming here with is unclear.

President Trump had asked just earlier in the week that the Iranians, essentially who he said had a fractured leadership, put forward their proposition clearly. So, at the moment, it seems diplomacy is in play. Obviously, tensions along the Strait of Hormuz.

PETE HEGSETH, DEFENSE SECRETARY: Operation Epic Fury has delivered a decisive military result in just weeks. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, as the president has pointed out, all took years, decades.

Vague missions, shifting sands, little to show for it. Operation Epic Fury has been laser focused from the very start, as I've said to all of you. Clear mission objectives and ultimately Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. It's a bold and dangerous mission, a gift to the world.

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Historic, courtesy of a bold and historic president. That mission continues today, in this new phase as Iran has an important choice, a chance to make a deal, a good deal. A wise deal.

As part of that effort, the United States has imposed an ironclad blockade that grows more powerful by the day. From the Gulf of Oman to the open oceans, our Navy is enforcing this blockade without hesitation or apology. Now, as usual, there's a lot of false information out there.

I'll say this, every ship, every ship that the U.S. believes meets our criteria, either Iranian ships or to and from Iranian ports has been turned around. As of this morning, 34 total. Non-Iranian vessels are allowed to transit and many have, including overnight.

Not only is the blockade growing, in fact, a second aircraft carrier will join the blockade in just a few days, but this growing blockade is also gone global. Just this week, we seized two Iranian dark fleet ships in the Indo-Pacific region that had left Iranian ports before the blockade went into effect. They thought they'd made it out just in time.

They did not. We seized their sanctioned ships and we will seize more. Our blockade is growing and going global.

America's military is unmatched, projecting power, denying passage to adversaries and protecting our interest at the time and place of our choosing. No one sails from the Strait of Hormuz to anywhere in the world without the permission of the United States Navy. To the regime in Tehran, the blockade is tightening by the hour.

We are in control, nothing in, nothing out. Iran's battered military, the IRGC specifically, has been reduced to a gang of pirates with a flag. They cloak their aggression in slogans, but the world now sees them for what they are, criminals on the high seas.

They don't control anything. They're acting like pirates, acting like terrorists. They're the ones who lay indiscriminate mines, who shoot at random ships, who killed 45,000 of their own people, innocent protesters in the course of weeks, their own people. They are the bad actors.

The vessels that the Iranians seized in recent days, a couple of them, they're not American ships. They're not Israeli ships. They're just random ships that drove -- where they drove their little speedboats up to and shot at those ships with AK-47s. Anyone with a speedboat, a gun, and the wrong intentions can do that.

They know that we, the United States of America, control the flow of global shipping, and we know that they know. Their real Navy is at the bottom of the Arabian Gulf. It's worth saying again, for 47 years, Iran has been at war with

America, killing our citizens, our soldiers, and our allies, while previous administrations looked the other way. The real endless war is the war that Iran has waged on us for 47 years.

President Trump is the only president with the guts and moral clarity to finally do something about it. I see it every day behind closed doors. President Trump's fortitude is unshakable, and his mission is crystal clear.

President Trump said it again yesterday. We have all the time in the world, and we're not anxious for a deal. And I hear him say it every day in private as well.

Iran knows that they still have an open window to choose wisely, as we said previously, choose wisely at the negotiating table. All they have to do is abandon a nuclear weapon in meaningful and verifiable ways, or instead they can watch their regime's fragile economic state collapse under the unrelenting pressure of American power. A blockade as long as it takes, whatever President Trump decides.

Because the bottom line remains the bottom line. Iran will never get a nuclear bomb. The choice is theirs, but with this blockade, the clock is not on their side.

Moreover, President Trump has authorized the United States Navy to destroy any Iranian fast boats that attempt to put mines in the water or disrupt passage through the Strait of Hormuz to shoot and kill.

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Our commanders have clear rules of engagement. If Iran is putting mines in the water or otherwise threatening American commercial shipping or American forces, we will shoot to destroy. No hesitation, just like the drug boats in the Caribbean.

It's also worth saying, this should not be America's fight alone. We barely use the Strait of Hormuz as a country. Our energy doesn't flow through there. And we have plenty of energy.

Just look at the new global conga line headed to Texas, a beautiful picture. Europe and Asia have benefited from our protection for decades, but the time for free riding is over.

America and the free world deserve allies who are capable, who are loyal, and you understand that being an ally is not a one-way street, it's a two-way street. We are not counting on Europe, but they need the Strait of Hormuz much more than we do and might want to start doing less talking and having less fancy conferences in Europe and get in a boat. This is much more their fight than ours.

On this core mission, America's will is unshakable, our capabilities unmatched, our blockade is only growing and going global. And as the president said, we have all the time in the world. Iran has a historic chance to make a serious deal, and the ball is in their court. Either way, the War Department stands ready for what comes next, locked and loaded. May God continue to bless our warriors each and every day, and on each and every mission.

Mr. Chairman, over to you.

GEN. DAN CAINE, JOINT CHIEFS CHAIRMAN: Thank you, Mr. Secretary, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for being here.

Today marks 55 days since the president of the United States ordered major combat operations against Iran. Today and this morning, the Joint Force remains postured and prepared to recommence major combat operations on the order of the president. On April 8th, the president announced a ceasefire, and last week, at the president's direction and on order of the secretary, U.S. CENTCOM began enforcing a blockade against all commercial vessels going into and out of Iran and their ports.

Simultaneously, the U.S. military, in support of the U.S. Department of Justice, was ordered to conduct maritime interdiction operations against sanctioned and dark fleet vessels globally. This operation also began on April 8th, and what I'd like to do this morning is update all of you on those actions and activities.

First, as I mentioned, U.S. Central Command continues to maintain a strict blockade on all the ports. We're enforcing the blockade across the board against any ship of any nationality that is transiting to or from an Iranian port or territory. We're closely tracking vessels of interest headed towards Iran and those moving away from Iran that were outside the blockade area when this blockade was ordered. And as everyone saw this past weekend, we're prepared and postured to intercept them.

As of this morning, 34 ships have met the U.S. blockade and made the wise choice to turn around. One ship did not, and that ship was the motor vessel Touska. Over several hours this past Sunday, April 19th, the U.S. conducted maritime interdiction operations against the Touska, whose crew attempted to breach the blockade line. The Touska is a large container ship about 965 feet long or about the same size as a United States Navy aircraft carrier and over 100 feet wide. The operation began about 4 a.m. Eastern Standard Time when the United States Navy destroyer approached her and the crew and the vessel ignored warnings. And I've described how the destroyer force is operating in the area prior.

Upon intercept and coming within visual range, American forces began to issue several clear and unambiguous warnings and inform the vessel and their crew that they were in a violation of the U.S. blockade and directed the ship to turn around. Over a six hour period, the vessel and her crew repeatedly ignored U.S. warnings. And then the U.S. Navy destroyer executed a series of preplanned, carefully calibrated escalation options, including firing five warning shots.

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The vessel and her crew continued to ignore warnings. And after exhausting all other measures, CENTCOM authorized disabling fire against the Touska. U.S. sailors warned the crew of the Touska to abandon the engine room, and at approximately 9 a.m. eastern time, the destroyer disabled the Touska's engine by firing nine inert rounds from the destroyer's Mk 45 5-inch guns precisely into the engine room and engine space on board the Touska.

Not surprisingly, the vessel then reported issues with their engine, went dead in the water, and began to comply with U.S. directions and orders. At 4 p.m. eastern standard time, CENTCOM ordered United States Marines to seize the ship. Via helicopters, U.S. Marines maneuvered quickly to the disabled ship, boarded her from fast ropes via helicopter infiltration methods, and took custody of the ship. The ship and her crew remain safe in U.S. custody today.

Let me now turn to global operations in the Pacific, and I want to highlight that this is a major interagency effort between the United States military, the White House, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Justice. On Monday, April 20th, USINDOPACOM forces, in support of a Department of Justice request, interdicted the motor tanker Tifani which was transporting sanctioned Iranian oil. The Tifani is a very large crude tanker, VLCC for short, and is also about the size of a U.S. aircraft carrier, and capable of transporting approximately 2 million barrels of oil.

At approximately 11:30 p.m. eastern time, U.S. military forces and law enforcement forces also went to the ship via rotary wing platforms, fast roped onto her deck, and secured her. After the ship was secured, a U.S. Navy control team embarked aboard the Tifani and assumed control of the ship at 4 a.m. eastern time on April 21st. A Navy control team is comprised of sailors led by a boarding officer that assumes control of a sea ship in order to secure the crew, the cargo, and the vessel, and disposition of that first vessel is still pending.

The next interdiction occurred on Wednesday, this past Wednesday, 22 April, when INDOPACOM conducted yet another interdiction, again at the request of the U.S. Department of Justice, this time the stateless motor tanker Majestic X, also known as the Phonix, also in the Indian Ocean. This is again a VLCC, or very large crude tanker.

At approximately 11 p.m. eastern standard time, U.S. forces began the interdiction, again using rotary wing assets to get to the ship, got on board, and secured the bridge. Both ships, the Tifani, the Majestic X, and their crews remain in U.S. custody, and we will continue to conduct similar maritime interdiction actions and activities in the Pacific and Indian Oceans against Iranian ships and vessels of the Dark Fleet.

The actions by our service members and our law enforcement partners demonstrate the incredible discipline and dedication and professionalism of our joint force and highlight the global reach of American combat power.

The joint force remains on ensuring the Iranian regime cannot harm our interests or those of our allies and partners. And I'll highlight that Iran has repeatedly sought to offensively and proactively expand the conflict by aggression against its neighbors and its attacks on global shipping through the Strait. To date, Iran has attacked five merchant vessels, seized two of them that were attempting to transit the Strait, and these include ships that Iran itself had cleared to proceed.

Now, as I always do, I want to honor members of the joint force. Today, I want to highlight and proudly describe the essential role of our intelligence enterprise and the role that they play in conducting our military operations. The totality of their work is the culmination of days, months, and in many cases, years of work by our uniformed and civilian intelligence professionals.

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We have been able to do the work that we are ordered to do because America's intelligence force, including our core collectors and analysts, have spent decades searching for every loose thread. From the determination of a particular intelligence requirement to that piece of intelligence being collected in the field by a military or interagency case officer to the rigorous analysis that goes into reporting on that finding, those team members spend their careers answering the incredibly important questions that we must attempt to answer before, during, and after operations. They live in the enemy's mind.

Normally located behind the green door or behind the vault door in dark windowless rooms across the world, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, our world-class intel members from DIA, our service intelligence components, NSA, NGA, CIA, NRO, and in the case of the operations that I've just described, the Office of Naval Intelligence, all work tirelessly to sift through the mountains of collected information using tools, tactics, techniques, and procedures that I'm not going to discuss today.

The sun never sets on these world-class professionals, and their goal is every minute of every day to be on the account. And they know the enemy. They know their combat capability, their weapons, their industrial and economic systems, and they know their leaders, their leaders' pattern of life, where they go, what they think, and what they do.

Thanks to their work, we know Iran, and it is an incredible work that they do. Again, none of our operations that we've conducted during my time in this job could have been done without the service of these intelligence professionals. And the distance from those core collectors and those analysts to those Patriot crews who are defending U.S. forces forward or the fighter pilots is incredibly small. Every single day, as their motto say, they are committed to excellence in the defense of the nation and to securing the future, and they're doing the work of the nation.

Before I close, as I do every time, I want to highlight and remember our fallen. Today, I want to highlight the 63 victims of the terrorist bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, which occurred 43 years ago, just a few days ago, on April 18, 1983. At that time, this was the deadliest attack on a U.S. diplomatic mission, and this was the first attack conducted by Iranian-backed forces on Americans. The suicide bomber detonated a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device out in front of the embassy, killing 63 innocent people, including 32 Lebanese, 14 visitors, and 17 Americans. And among those lost, members of the joint force to include three Army soldiers and one United States Marine.

We remember their names, Sergeant First Class Richard Twine, Staff Sergeant Ben Maxwell, Staff Sergeant Mark Salazar, and McMaugh. Today, we remember them. We carry on their memory and the memory of all our fallen and remain grateful for their sacrifice and that of their families, who continue to show us what courage looks like.

As we continue to press forward and maintain these operations, the Secretary, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and I are deeply humbled by the spirit, tenacity, and commitment and grit of the 2.8 million members of our joint force. The Secretary and I thank every member of the joint force engaged in this operation, every warrior who remains deployed or who is supporting from here at home. Thank you and thank you to your families.

Sir, I'll turn it back over to you.

HEGSETH: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We'll take a few questions.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. In your estimation, have there been increased or decreased instances of Iranian vessels either approaching or trying to breach the blockade the longer it is in effect?

And another question about the mine threat. Has the mine threat been neutralized enough to facilitate freer flow in the straits?

HEGSETH: Well, to the second question, first of all, we are seeing vessels transiting. There are paths that are open. And part of what the President is threatening is ensuring if there's attempts to lay recklessly and irresponsibly lay more mines, we're going to deal with that.

It's a violation of the ceasefire. So transit is occurring much more limited than anybody would like to see and with more risk than people would like to see.

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But that's because Iran is doing irresponsible things with small fast boats, crafts, like I said, with weapons on them. These are commercial ships, in some cases, cruise ships, cruise ships that came through being threatened by these. So as far as breaching the blockade, it's been a pretty consistent or a number of ships at the beginning.

Then you had the interdiction that the Chairman described where we took out the engine room and disabled that ship. I think that sent a very clear sign that this is not a fake blockade. This is a real full blockade.

We'll use up to and including lethal force if necessary. And that stopped, and other ships have taken note of that. So any ships that have attempted, there's been levels of escalation, but none that far, and they've turned around.

Absolutely. Yes.

DAVID ZERE, REAL AMERICA'S VOICE: GOOD MORNING, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chairman. David Zere, Real America's Voice. To follow up on Alexandra's question, how big are these mine-laying boats?

Can they be achieved from fast boats? And I wanted to follow up on my last week question about, as jet fuel stocks in Europe reportedly are only about six weeks left, they get most of the jet fuel from the Gulf, have any European countries reached out to assist in coordinating off the Strait and participating in escorts?

HEGSETH: A I know there's a lot of talks. You saw the, I would call it a silly conference, in Europe last week where they got together and talked about talking about maybe doing something eventually when things are done. Those are not serious efforts yet.

We would welcome that. We would welcome a serious European effort to do something about this Strait and this passage, considering it's their energy capabilities that are most at stake. I think it's a wake- up call.

It's a wake-up call for countries around the world. Either you have capabilities or you don't. Otherwise, you're at the behest of a country like Iran, and the only country that can do something about it is the United States military.

Do you want to talk about the mines and the small crafts?

CAINE: They have a variety of smaller Boston whaler-sized boats. We have forces up there deterring and preventing them from continuing to do that, and we'll continue to do so pursuant to the orders of the Secretary and the President.

HEGSETH: But reckless mining like that is a violation of the ceasefire.

CAINE: Unwise to do that.

HEGSETH: And very unwise to do. Absolutely. Jerry.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you. So Pope Leo has made some strident comments about the war in Iran. And the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops recently put out a statement suggesting that the war does not fit the requirements of just war theory. And I wondered if the Pentagon had thought about this war against the terrorist regime in Iran in terms of the framework of a just war, and if either one of you could talk about that.

And then just my second question would be, the Pentagon recently, this week, gave well-deserved award upgrades to the members of Golf Company 2-1 Marines who served at HKIA and Abbey Gate during the withdrawal and evacuation. I wonder if you, Mr. Secretary, could speak a little bit about that and maybe give us a little bit more in terms of what to expect from this Afghanistan review in terms of further proper recognition and proper accountability.

HEGSETH: On the first question, Pope's going to do his thing. That's fine. We know what our mission is. We know what authority we have. We're very clear about that. We follow that.

The orders of the President, we've got lawyers all over the place looking at what we're doing and why we're doing it and giving us every authority necessary under the Constitution and under our laws to execute it. So we feel very confident across the spectrum about what we're doing and why we're doing and the legal justification that we're following in order to do it.

You mentioned the Marines at Abbey Gate. And what we've undertaken at this department is a historic Afghanistan review. So we have, over the course of months, reviewed what happened leading up to and including the events at Abbey Gate and the disastrous withdrawal in Afghanistan. There's never actually been a full accounting in this department of the decisions that were made.

There's been sort of papered over congressional attempts, but never a real deep dive where we brought everybody in to talk about what happened and why it happened. That has happened. That review will come later this summer.

And I think you'll find it to be probably the most comprehensive review this department has ever done about a single series of events. And it's because the cascading effect of what Joe Biden did in abandoning that mission the way that he did. And that disastrous withdrawal had ripple effects for our military, for our country, and for the world.

That's why re-establishing deterrence is one of the core pillars of what we've been doing at the war departments because the world looked at that disaster and made choices. Vladimir Putin made choices. Hamas made choices and saw that America wouldn't do anything about it.

Houthis shot at ships. They made choices because Joe Biden and his administration were seen as feckless and weak. And that withdrawal was a part of what the world saw, people clinging to planes as we fled.

That deserves a full accounting, which is exactly what we're doing. Sean Parnell, our chief spokesman.