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Trump Nominates Dr. Nicole Saphier For Surgeon General; Report: Iran has Submitted Revised Proposal To End War; Elon Musk's Courtroom Showdown With OpenAI's Sam Altman; Lindsey Vonn On Road To Recovery, Resilience After Olympic Crash. Aired 8:30-9a ET
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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: So perhaps, third time's a charm for President Trump when it comes to his pic for surgeon general. Dr. Nicole Saphier is now being put up after President Trump pulled the nomination of Casey Means, a longtime ally of HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.
Now, the new doctor is a radiologist, longtime Fox News contributor. CNN's Jacqueline Howard is tracking the latest on this. And it has been quite the road and a choppy one for getting a Surgeon General confirmed and in place.
What are you learning about this new nominee?
JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: That's right, Kate. We still haven't had a confirmed surgeon general here in the United States.
And what we know about Dr. Saphier, like you said, she is a radiologist. She has been a media contributor, especially for Fox News.
On her social media, she describes herself as a full-time wife, mother and doctor, but many people are wondering, what are her views on certain policies, especially vaccine policies?
And she hosts a podcast called Wellness Unmasked, where we can get some insight into what her views are.
On this podcast, Kate, she has said on one hand that vaccines are one of the most effective tools that we have to prevent serious illness. And she has said that it's a problem that we're seeing a declining rate of children getting their measles, mumps and rubella vaccine.
But on the other hand, Kate, she has applauded the recent Department of Health and Human Services decision to no longer universally recommend COVID-19 vaccines and instead to make them available after someone has a conversation with their doctor.
And she also has said that she has questioned the original CDC vaccine schedule.
Here she is speaking about that on her podcast. Have a listen.
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NICOLE SAPHIER, AMERICAN RADIOLOGIST: Now, the reality is I did think the original CDC vaccine schedule was somewhat bloated. I thought we could scale back on certain things.
Some of the things the RFK Jr. has done, you know, I wasn't staunchly opposed to, but the way that it has been communicated makes it seem that changes are being done because they found new evidence showing it's not safe or it's not effective. And that's just not true.
So for me, it's been the messaging that has been the failure when it comes to some of these changes. I think we need to have open, honest discussions.
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HOWARD: What stood out to me there, Kate, is that she did focus on the importance of health messaging and communication.
And the surgeon general is the nation's doctor. They are essentially a health communicator for the country. So, it will be interesting to see, Kate, in her confirmation hearing if she leans into that, into the importance of health messaging and clear communications.
BOLDUAN: What are you hearing about her path to confirmation? If she has any better chance of getting through the nomination process as the others did.
HOWARD: Right. Because we still haven't heard a confirmation hearing date, of course, that -- that should be coming up. But when you look at the timeline of this search for surgeon general, you make a good point that the confirmation hearing will be key.
Because in November, 2024, that's when President Trump first nominated Dr. Janette Nesheiwat. And her nomination was pulled days before her Senate confirmation hearing. So she didn't even have a hearing.
And then in February, this past February 2026, Dr. Casey Means had her confirmation hearing, but now we see her nomination was pulled, and now we see the new nominee is Dr. Saphier.
So you're right, Kate. All eyes are on what's happening next now that we do have this third nomination for surgeon general.
BOLDUAN: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Jacqueline. Really appreciate it.
John.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right. A little bit of breaking news this morning on the war with Iran. This was just posted moments ago by CNN political and global affairs analyst Barak Ravid of "Axios." This is what he wrote, quote, "Iran delivered on Thursday to the U.S. through the Pakistani mediators its response to the latest U.S. amendments on the agreement to end the war."
Today was a kind of deadline for Iran to respond to the United States. Now, Barak Ravid reporting that Iran has issued some kind of response.
With us now is Gordon Sondland, former U.S. ambassador to the European Union. Ambassador, nice to see you this morning.
So, the last Iranian proposal that we know about was that everyone would declare the Strait of Hormuz is open, but the size would put off talking about Iran's nuclear program or nuclear ambitions till a later date.
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Have any guesses what they might have come up with this time?
GORDON SONDLAND, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE EUROPEAN UNION: Oh, good morning, John. Thanks for having me.
This is all rope-a-dope.
BERMAN: Who's the dope? Who's the dope there?
SONDLAND: Who's the dope? The -- the Iranians think we're the dope and we're not the dope. What's been going on in the last few weeks is giving our men and women a -- a good rest and rearmament.
And I think what you're going to see is another series of strikes and perhaps another round of leadership decapitations, which is badly needed in order to bring the Iranians finally to their needs.
Look, we're not trying to tell the Iranians how to run their society. And that's very well proven in Venezuela. We're putting up with the kind of society that we loathe in Venezuela, but they're not trying to impose their will externally, which is what the Iranians are trying to do.
If the Iranians would leave the Israelis alone, if they would quit sponsoring Hamas, the Houthis, Hezbollah, if they want to run a fundamentalist clerical society, that's fine, as long as it doesn't leave their borders.
And as soon as it starts to leave their borders, that's when the U.S., Israel, and frankly the rest of the world have an interest in how things go in the Middle East.
BERMAN: Let me just back up to the beginning of your statement there. You think -- you think new strikes are imminent?
SONDLAND: I do. And I think that -- I think all the signs point to that. And frankly, I think those are the best cards for the president to play, because the Iranians' attempts at negotiation are really nothing more than attempts. They're not serious. The new head of the IRGC, who replaced the dead head of the IRGC, who has never engaged with the U.S. face to face, even though he is the decision maker, wants desperately to cling to his money and to his power. And that's what's going on here.
They can pass papers back and forth in Islamabad until the cows come home and nothing is going to change until they get hit again, unfortunately.
BERMAN: Interesting. So you think the Iranians are stringing along negotiations intentionally.
I do want to ask you. We have one of our analysts, Karim Sadjadpour, who writes for the Atlantic. Terrific global affairs analyst, said, there is a disparity in the pain thresholds here of the two countries, politically speaking.
President Trump, he says, needs the economy to thrive. The Iranian regime only needs to survive.
What kind of complication do you think that poses in, I guess, potential negotiations, which you don't hold off faith in anyway?
SONDLAND: Well, the writer of that is 100 percent correct. President Trump is constrained by the midterms. He's constrained by the War Powers Act. He's constrained by the public at home, whereas you're right, the Iranian regime is only constrained by how much they can -- they can essentially get away with.
And that's why the kinetic move is so critical at this point, because we need to probably eliminate the new IRGC head, along with several other people, and those people are all absolutely at the top of both Netanyahu and Trump's list, and get down to the point where someone says, look, we want to continue to run our country the way we run it, but we're not going to become a threat to our neighbors. That's where we need to get to at this point.
BERMAN: Very quickly --
SONDLAND: We're going to see a Republican democracy in Iran. It's not going to happen.
BERMAN: Just yes or no, you said the president is constrained by the War Powers Act. I don't think he thinks so.
I mean, do you think -- do you think he's at 60 days? Yes or no on that?
SONDLAND: Well, I think, look, John, I think what he's doing is he's parsing -- look, he's playing for time. But eventually, he can't conduct a full-on war that goes on for months and months and months without respecting the War Powers Act. And he knows that.
At this point, we're -- we're debating whether the pause means the clock stops on it and so on and so forth.
But if he hits them hard and hits them quickly, I think you're going to see some renewed talks happen pretty quickly as well.
BERMAN: Former Ambassador Gordon Sondland, good to see you this morning. Thank you.
Kate.
BOLDUAN: Three days and no shortage of drama. Elon Musk has now wrapped up his testimony in his high-stakes legal battle against OpenAI.
Musk was on the stand for quite some time. And in that time, clashed with the attorneys in court and even got a warning from the judge. He was also even warned, you're not an attorney.
What this is all about is Musk says the OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman betrayed their nonprofit mission in search of profit. The bottom line, if Musk wins, it could scramble the A.I. race, but there's so much more going on here.
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CNN contributor Kara Swisher is here with me now to talk about this. How are you?
KARA SWISHER, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Hi. How you doing?
BOLDUAN: Nice to see you. So, I mean, it says -- tell me if I'm wrong, but this is as much about ego between these men as --
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: -- it is about any legal conversation.
SWISHER: Well, completely. I mean, he was involved with Sam. I was around when they started it. And it was starting for good reason. I think they were both worried about the power of a Google or -- or a Meta, or at the time, Facebook.
And so they were trying to figure out what to do around A.I., which was already around by that time, by the way, and for a long time.
And so they started off friendly and worried about the threats of A.I. And, of course, it's a big money maker or a possible money maker.
And so Elon tried to take over the whole place. They pushed him off and he got mad, took his marbles and went home, except there's a lot more marbles over at OpenAI.
BOLDUAN: A lot of marbles.
SWISHER: He wants those marbles back.
BOLDUAN: And he wants those.
SWISHER: Yes. I'm using the metaphor of children because that's what it feels like. BOLDUAN: I was going to say, it feels --
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: Even the conversation in court and what's come out of some of the testimony, it seems -- it does seem childish.
SWISHER: He's a toddler, an adult toddler. I don't -- I've said that many, many times. I mean, the problem is, and I think Elie Honig said this on my podcast, he's being pushed back and he doesn't get pushed back every day of the week. At most people, he has violent enablers like agreeing with him.
And so saying, oh, yes, sir, you're very smart, which sounds familiar, of course. And so he has that. He's used to that.
And so he has this lawyer pressing him and he can't take it because he's an expert on everything, including law. And he's sitting there with a judge who's an actual expert and the lawyer who's very good at his job.
And so he feels like he knows everything. He does this all the time.
BOLDUAN: It's -- there's -- and it's a lot of ego and it's a ton of money. And it's looking at kind of the landscape of A.I.
Does -- does this -- if you set aside the egos, which is impossible.
SWISHER: Impossible.
BOLDUAN: Does this have the potential of kind of changing that landscape of A.I., the nonprofit for-profit kind of clash?
SWISHER: No. No. Because regulators have weighed in on this already. And just because Elon Musk is weighing in and it doesn't mean anything.
This is a jury trial. And one of the problems seeing the jury is that people -- the -- the nicest thing some of the jurors said about him that didn't get seated, that he was a jerk. That was the nicest. And so it was hard seeing a jury with him. He's ruined his reputation through his antics.
And so even though he's an amazing entrepreneur and has done astonishing things and he's about to become possibly a trillionaire through the SpaceX IPO that's upcoming, he still has a really tarnished reputation. And so we'll see.
If he wins, it would be something else. That would be --
BOLDUAN: Right. Yes.
SWISHER: Yes. And the judge will do the remedies here, not the jury.
BOLDUAN: Real quick, new episode coming up of "Kara Swisher --
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: -- Swisher Wants to Live Forever." Looking at -- I mean, this is all kind of appropriate.
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: Human connection in the era --
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: -- of no human connection.
SWISHER: Yes.
BOLDUAN: How do you -- did you -- does it matter?
SWISHER: Yes, absolutely. It's actually a number one thing linked to longevity is social connections and humanity working with each other.
And in fact, getting away from A.I. bots and these seamless relationships.
Elon Musk should spend a lot less time on Twitter and more time with friends and family. That would make him a nicer person. It would make him live longer.
And so I'm showing both the cognitive issues around it and also the health issues of connections. And loneliness is really an epidemic --
BOLDUAN: Yes.
SWISHER: and it's a disease. So that's what my -- that's what this episode is about. And we talked -- we talked to actual scientists to talk about it too.
BOLDUAN: Lots of --
SWISHER: I'm just saying.
BOLDUAN: Lots experts and lots of fun. Even like -- I even see an appearance in -- in some of it of Dr. Zeke Emanuel in Revolutionary (INAUDIBLE). So we -- we are running the gamut here.
SWISHER: We marched. We marched in a -- in a colonial parade because that's what one does, you know, for CNN.
BOLDUAN: As one -- as one does, Kara Swisher. Good to see you.
SWISHER: Thank you so much.
BOLDUAN: Thank you.
And be sure to watch new episode of CNN's Original Series, Kara Swisher Wants To Live Forever." Premieres Saturday, 9:00 P.M. Eastern on CNN.
John.
BERMAN: All right. New details of the Texas summer camp for girls that was the site of last year's deadly flooding.
CNN has learned the Camp Mystic has withdrawn its application for a state license and will not reopen this summer.
Camp officials had hoped to reopen, but families pushed back saying it was too soon following the deaths of 27 children and counselors.
Several investigations remain ongoing as the camp safety protocols face scrutiny from state officials and families.
The camp released a statement about the decision not to reopen. It said, quote, "Today is not about camp operations. It is about respect for the family's accountability to the public and reverence for the memory of the lives lost."
Congress reauthorized the government's powerful and controversial surveillance law, FISA, at least for a minute.
Lawmakers passed a 45-day extension. The Foreign Surveillance Act allows U.S. officials to gather phone calls and text messages of foreign targets, but they can also collect some data from Americans in the process.
For years, officials have said, this is all critical in national security, but several liberties groups and many politicians on both sides argue the law infringes on Americans' privacy.
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Kate.
BOLDUAN: In this week's Searching for France, Eva Longoria finds herself in Alsace. Take a look.
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EVA LONGORIA, AMERICAN ACTRESS: So, why are we doing this today if Shabbat's tomorrow?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can't cook in Shabbat. It's time for family, for study, for Torah, for go to the synagogue.
LONGORIA: Now, we're going to fill it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can --
LONGORIA: Put in the oven?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Put in the oven.
LONGORIA (voice-over): And finally, one of the most important elements of the Shabbaton meal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We -- we make Challah bread, the Jewish bread, every week.
LONGORIA: Uh-huh. Oh, wow. That's tough.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Put your fingers like this and just -- and roll. Yes, very good. Very good. Perfect. Perfect.
LONGORIA: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like this? Yes. Yes. Wow. Great.
LONGORIA: Ah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
LONGORIA: Oh, my God. I can't believe I did that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the best Challah bread.
LONGORIA: Yay.
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BOLDUAN: That was some impressive braiding there. There's two new episodes coming this Sunday, 9:00 P.M. on CNN, and the next day on the CNN app.
A home explosion in Queens. What we're now learning about what happened there.
And California -- off the coast of California is some (INAUDIBLE) chased down by a shark. The new video and quite the moment.
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BOLDUAN: So if you think of resilience and grit, one person who should definitely come to mind is one of the greatest skiers of all time right now, Lindsey Vonn, 84 career victories, qualifying competing in five Olympic Games --
SIDNER: Damn.
BOLDUAN: -- taking three Olympic medals, including gold in Vancouver.
After the last games in Italy, we were cut short for her with that very serious crash in the downhill, going some 75 miles per hour. If you want to think how fast they actually go downhill.
Vonn has now been through eight surgeries to repair her leg injuries and is now on a major journey of recovery, which she has been documenting and sharing all along the way.
And joining us right now in studio is the Olympic icon, Lindsey Vonn. It's really nice to have you here.
LINDSEY VONN, ALPINE SKIING CHAMPION: Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.
BOLDUAN: We really. And thank you for -- you're the only reason we're ever allowed to sit, so thank you so much.
SIDNER: It's literally our first.
BOLDUAN: Anything I can do to help.
I have -- I think we all have been following your recovery and what you've been sharing in your journey all along the way. Why was it important for you to bring us along on this journey with you, which your amazing recovery? How are you?
VONN: I mean, I'm pretty good. I think for me, you know, I've always been really open about who I am and what I'm -- what I'm going through, and this is no different, you know.
I -- I think also part of the reason why I connect with my fans is because I've had so many injuries. You know, we all have our own adversities that we face. And life is not glamorous. Life is hard and it's raw. And that's, you know, just how I choose to share my life.
I'm not really filtered. I'm -- I'm not like trying to hide anything from anybody. I'm just -- I'm me and this is my life, and this is what I'm going through.
And if someone can take something positive out of my journey, then I think that's a -- that's a win.
SIDNER: How do you keep going? Because injuries -- recovering from any little thing, trust me, like I get up in the morning and my arm hurts, right? I mean, just random stuff.
But recovering from any little thing can be so aggravating, it takes so much time. How do you mentally get through that and go back into the gym and go back into therapy?
Because sometimes, do you ever want to go just like, stop, I don't want to do this anymore?
VONN: Of course, all the time. You know, rehab is not fun. Injuries are not fun. I think that's part of being an athlete, you know.
When -- it's one you don't want to go to the gym that you have to. And we have to keep working hard.
And -- and rehab is no different. You need to keep doing the work to be able to get to where you want to go.
And if I don't do what I'm supposed to do, I'm going to have lifelong problems. So, I was really adamant to be -- to be sure I was on it every single step of the way.
And I've had to be really a lot more patient than I'm used to. Normally, like -- I feel like ACL surgery, easy. Let's do that any time. I can do that -- (CROSSTALK)
VONN: -- relative to Sunday and I'd be good to go.
But like this is a -- this is next level. You know, I was in a wheelchair for six weeks. I was in the hospital for two and a half, completely immobile. And it was -- it was really, really hard.
But I -- I want to get to the other side. I'm getting a lot closer. I'm still on crutches. But hopefully next week, start to work my way off. And that's very exciting.
BERMAN: I was going to ask. It's like following up on Sara. Does somebody get easier or harder that you've had to go through, I guess not something like this before, as you just said, but injuries before?
Because for me, I could see being like, not again. You know, I've done this already. I'm not going to bother this time.
VONN: I've said not again, right?
BOLDUAN: We've all publicly backed that as well.
VONN: Exactly. But it's like kind of part of the job.
But, you know, I think if I hadn't have been through what I -- what I have been through, I -- I wouldn't have been able to deal with this injury the way I have, because it has been so intense.
I can't imagine this being my first injury. It would -- like it would decimate me. But because I have -- I have -- I know how to be resilient. I know how to come back. I know what the grind feels like. It's definitely helped me in this rehab.
BOLDUAN: You've thought about those moments, the moment -- the amazing moments of the Olympics before, what you went through, and now what you're dealing with.
What is -- what is the big lesson in it?
VONN: I'm still figuring that out. You know, I think you have to be reflective. And I haven't really been able to be that reflective yet, because I've -- I'm still in survival mode, you know.
I'm still really fighting my way through it. And I've tried to start my -- my therapy with my therapist. And I -- I can't -- I -- I just can't really get there yet. And there will be a lesson.
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And, you know, I -- I always try to look at the positives of everything. Maybe this is going to be the best thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Maybe some door will open that would never otherwise be open to me.
So as horrible as this is and as hard as it is, like, who knows where the future will take me in? I'm just kind of along for the ride.
BERMAN: I love the idea that you're scheduling reflection.
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VONN: I -- I post (INAUDIBLE)
SIDNER: Later on.
VONN: We're on a hold.
BERMAN: That's what I'm going to tell my wife. Like I'll -- I'll have deep thoughts sometime later.
SIDNER: It's just like stop making mouth sounds.
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SIDNER: I do want to ask you about why you think you have resonated. You've resonated with people far beyond. Athletics, far beyond. The skiing community.
And now you have something out there that I took the test, antibodies for everybody. And I was like, what is this? Oh, let me check this out.
And the first question is, do you consistently get seven hours of sleep each night? And I literally burst out laughing. Three the -- threw the phone across the thing.
BOLDUAN: Are you trying to shame us, Vonn? Are you trying to shame us?
SIDNER: I'm like, no.
VONN: I mean, it's like -- so antibodiesforanybody.com is like is where you can go for a wellness assessment where you can learn about antibodies and what they do for you.
SIDNER: I'm not well, just so you know. According to the assessment, I am not well.
VONN: Did you get a medal?
SIDNER: I did not.
BERMAN: You did get a medal.
SIDNER: I did not.
BERMAN: I think everyone medals.
SIDNER: I -- I don't -- I -- no.
BOLDUAN: It's basically a participation.
VONN: You're participated. SIDNER: Congratulations.
BOLDUAN: Anybody -- let's just be honest. (INAUDIBLE) for participation.
SIDNER: I didn't finish.
VONN: I was trying to win that one. But --
SIDNER: I didn't even get to participate because I didn't finish because I threw my phone across the room. Yes.
VONN: Exactly, you didn't finish. You have --
SIDNER: OK. All right.
VONN: You're persistent. You can do this.
SIDNER: OK.
VONN: Go back. I want to know what you got.
But I got a silver. I didn't get gold. I think the -- the stress component was unavoidable. I don't know how you don't have stress in life.
But I think it's really good to just have information on like the choices, the daily choices you make in life and how that affects your immune system and how that affects the antibodies that are working for you to protect against toxins and germs.
And like we don't have time to get sick. I don't have time as an athlete. And I'm like -- I'm super diligent about like how I -- how I prepare, how I -- like before the Olympics, I isolated myself. I was wearing a mask because I did not want to get sick.
And so for me to be able to be part of this campaign within Invivyd, it's really about just educating people on, again, like, how to stay healthy, how to make the right choices and why antibodies are important, which I think is really helpful.
BERMAN: So you're going to the Met Gala.
SIDNER: Let me see those nails, girl. Like she's already ready.
VONN: I'm already ready. The nails are ready.
BERMAN: I mean, what's -- what are you looking forward to there? This is going to be a big red carpet too.
VONN: I know.
BOLDUAN: No. It's the worst red carpet. There's like a thousand steps, Lindsey.
SIDNER: Only Kate among us knows that. VONN: There are a few stairs. Yes, it's going to be intense. I -- I was like, can I do this? Can I do this?
I've -- you know, Thom Browne asked me a long time ago. And I love Thom. We did a campaign together during COVID.
And it's been like the thing that I'm like, can I get there? Like, you know, it's like been the light at the end of the tunnel. And I'm going to try to walk. It's, like, technically supposed to be my first day of -- of walking a little bit without crutches.
So from the start to the top of the stairs, if I can make it with no crutches, that's a huge win.
SIDNER: The whole thing is nothing.
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The stairs after being heard is something.
BOLDUAN: I was just (INAUDIBLE) OK. Like this cannot -- does not go down this way, sister.
VONN: It won't and I won't let it.
BOLDUAN: Well, thank you for coming.
VONN: Thank you.
BOLDUAN: It's really nice to meet you. Really good to have you. And we are all very excited to see what Lindsay Vonn decides to do next.
SIDNER: And she's like --
BOLDUAN: Me too. Exactly.
SIDNER: -- you know, this is not glamorous going through all this. And then you look at everybody, like, OK, girl.
BOLDUAN: Yes.
SIDNER: Maybe not for the rest of us.
VONN: I don't wake up like this.
BOLDUAN: What? What? Thank you so much.
VONN: Thank you, guys.
BERMAN: All right. New video of an explosion at a New York City home as officers responded to a domestic dispute.
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BERMAN: Wow. So police say a woman had reported her husband came home carrying a knife and two garbage bags filled with canisters containing an unknown substance. The woman and children with her were able to escape.
Eight officers were treated for minor injuries from that blast you just saw. Police say the husband is unaccounted for.
Street artist Banksy confirms a new sculpture in central London is his work. The large statue shows a suited man stepping off a pedestal with his face covered by a flag, an apparent critique of blind patriotism.
Crowds quickly suspected Banksy and he confirmed posting a video showing the overnight installation. Authorities have since moved in placing barriers around the statue.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God, Jeremiah (PH). Run. Run. Go.
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BERMAN: All right. Two men foil surfing off the coast of California got a little bit of a surprise, when a shark began to follow one of them. The guy who -- who filmed that estimated the shark was about 10 to 11 feet long.
Eventually, after about chasing for a mile, the shark lost interest. Maybe went to eat someone else.
The brand-new hour of "CNN News Central" starts right now.
