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Can Lip Gloss Increase Risk of Skin Cancer?; Thousands of Protesters Will Pour into Streets for Third Annual Immigration Day

Aired May 01, 2008 - 09:00   ET


FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Lip gloss. Can it increase your risk of skin cancer? Dangerous shine, in the NEWSROOM.
Immigration, an issue packed with emotion and changing the face of America. Today, the high stakes of immigration policy, this presidential election year, fuel rallies and marches. Thousands of our neighbors will pour into streets for the third Annual Immigration Day from New York to Los Angeles.

From the National Mall to maybe your neighborhood, protesters will demand changes in immigration laws. Some are calling for more open policies. Others want to crack down on those here illegally.

TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: Enforcing immigration laws that are already on the books, it is a huge job in a country where millions of illegal immigrants live in plain sight.

CNN Homeland Security correspondent Jeanne Meserve -- there she is -- talked with the man in charge of that mission.

So Jeanne, what did Secretary Chertoff have to say on the subject? I suspect plenty.

JEANNE MESERVE, CNN HOMELAND SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: You're right, Tony. First of all, the Department of Homeland Security believes it is making progress controlling the nation's borders with more Border Patrol agents, fencing, and additional technology like UAVs.

The department is also doing more workplace enforcement, arresting and deporting illegal workers. These raids have sometimes raised outcry because they have sometimes separated parents from their American-born children.

But in an exclusive interview, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff defended the practice.


MICHAEL CHERTOFF, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: Well, it's a very sad thing to see a family get split up. You recognize THAT if you have an illegal, a mother who's illegally present in the country and her child is born in the U.S., and the child is an American citizen. Nevertheless, we cannot forgive a violation of the law by the mother, simply because the child is legal. I remember when I was a prosecutor standing up in court, and sometimes watching young children see their parents hauled off to jail when the parents committed a crime. That was a sad thing but we didn't excuse the crime because of the fact that the children were injured. As the judges used to say, they -- you should have thought of that before you actually committed the violation.


MESERVE: And Chertoff says the department will continue the workplace raids. He believes the government has to show it is serious about enforcing immigration laws already on the books before it can persuade Congress and the American people to sign on to comprehensive immigration reform, which would include a path to citizenship for people now here illegally, as well as enforcement of the law -- Tony?

HARRIS: Jeanne, just a quick question. Why does the department believe that illegal immigration is actually declining? Are -- is the department citing numbers?

MESERVE: Well, you know it cites apprehension numbers but you never really know how many people are getting across that they aren't catching but a couple of things based like, one, those apprehension numbers appear to be down. Secondly, they say, coyotes, who bring people across, are charging more, indicating that it's more difficult for people to come across.

The secretary has also said he believes it's going down because remittances from people in the U.S. back to people in Mexico are down. He thinks that's an indicator there were fewer Mexicans here, but there've been some recent reports indicating that it might be because of the downturn in the country and also that because remittances to Mexico are down, more people down there might be inspired to come north, to come across the border because they need money.

HARRIS: Jeanne Meserve, our Homeland Security correspondent. Jeanne, good to see you. Thank you.

MESERVE: You bet.

HARRIS: Immigration, the stick that stirs the melting pot. Is the simmer coming to a boil? We will talk to two activists who are demanding change.

And if you would like to watch any of the immigration rallies and speeches across the country today just go to We will be streaming them live all day.

WHITFIELD: Superdelegates switch. Next hour another Clinton supporter announces he's backing Obama, while candidates campaigning in Indiana, that primary five days away.

Dan Lothian with the Election Express in Indianapolis.

Hi, Dan. DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Fredricka. Well, that superdelegate you're talking about is Joe Andrew. He's the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He was appointed by the then President Bill Clinton, served from 1999 until 2001, was a Clinton superdelegate, but as you mentioned, is expected to make a switch at a press conference at 10:00 here in Indianapolis.

And he says, according to the Obama campaign, that the reason that he is making the switch is because he believes that this is the right time to do it. He believes that it's getting very late and this whole Democratic race really needs to be solidified, and he says that the reason he's switching to Senator Barack Obama is because he believes that he's the best candidate to provide change for this country.

No comment yet, though, from the Clinton campaign.

Now, both of the Democratic candidates, in fact, even the Republican candidate in this race have been talking about a big issue that's important to voters and that is high cost of gasoline. They've been talking about this gas tax holiday that's been quite controversial at least between Senator Barack Obama and Senator Clinton. Senator Clinton and Senator McCain say that obviously there's not a whole lot of money that will come from this but it would really help the working class families. But Senator Barack Obama has been very critical of the gas tax holiday, saying that it really won't amount to very much.


SEN. BARACK OBAMA (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So now it's the Clinton/McCain -- the Clinton/McCain proposal to suspend the gas tax for three months. Here's the problem, is not only is it worth 30 cents a day to you, but it takes money out of the federal highway fund that goes to rebuilding roads and bridges.


LOTHIAN: Senator Clinton says that Senator Obama's opposition to the gas tax holiday really shows that he's out of touch with working class families, and she keeps hammering way at that theme that we've heard now for so many months that she is the candidate that best understands the working class families, that she has the experience and again that she's the one who can get the job done on day one.


SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This election, in my view, is not about me. It's not about my opponents. It is about what you want in the next president, what you believe our country must do to regain our initiative in the world, to begin to solve our problems and meet our challenges.


LOTHIAN: Both of the Democratic candidates again will be campaigning here in Indiana today, and, of course, that endorsement switch taking place at 10 o'clock here in Indianapolis. We will hear some of the same themes that we've been hearing all week, gas prices and also the economy -- Fredricka?

WHITFIELD: And so Dan, who is the Indiana voter that these candidates say they really need to clinch, they need to grab within the next five days?

LOTHIAN: Again, it's really the working class voters out there. That was the big group that everyone was trying to get a hold of in Pennsylvania.

WHITFIELD: Pennsylvania.

LOTHIAN: It was very successful, of course -- right -- in Pennsylvania for Senator Clinton and also in Ohio. Those -- they supported her there, and you know we've been talking about this. There've been a lot of questions about whether or not Senator Barack Obama can really appeal to the working class voters.

His campaign says, listen, he's been able to reach out to white working class voters, he's been able to reach out to them and get their support in places like Iowa. They believe that his message can appeal to them here in Indiana as well.

WHITFIELD: All right. Dan Lothian in Indianapolis. Thank you.

Moving past the controversy over the former pastor, Michelle Obama says it is time to turn the page from Jeremiah Wright. Hear from her at the bottom of the hour, in the CNN NEWSROOM.

HARRIS: Republican John McCain, pushing his prescription for health care reform, this time in Ohio. McCain holds a town hall meeting next hour on the campus of the famed Cleveland Clinic. On CNN's "AMERICAN MORNING" last hour he said tax credits to help pay for health insurance will give consumers more options.


SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I want to give the people a choice as to whether they want to keep their employer plan -- funded plan or go out with their $5,000 tax credit and go across state lines and around this country and get the insurance policy of their choice, whichever they want to. It's based on choice.

I'm looking for a substantial reduction in price with the other reforms that we are going to have to put into place, like outcome- based treatment, cash and counseling, like increase in community health centers, like walk-in clinics, a whole bunch of measures, but of course, when you have choice and competition, which we do not today, in many respects, and transparency, then obviously you're going to reduce costs.


HARRIS: And later today, McCain attends a health care forum in Des Moines, Iowa.

Find more on the candidates at is your source for everything political.

WHITFIELD: When it costs more, you have to spend more. The Commerce Department releasing a report minutes ago, consumer spending up more than expected last month, four-tenths of a percent but take a closer look. Most of that money went to higher prices for gas and food. Adjusted for inflation, spending edged up one-tenth of a percent.

Gasoline no, surprise, up again, AAA reporting increases today under a penny, a record average of $3.62 for a gallon of regular, almost $3.99 for premium, $4.25 for diesel.

Oil is trading a bit over $113 a barrel. It is the lowest point now in more than two weeks but analysts say it could be months before we see a pullback at the pump.

HARRIS: Falling water, the St. John River appears to be going down in Maine. It crested a record 30 feet overnight. That's about five feet above flood stage. Flooding widespread on both sides of the Canadian border. Hundreds forced from their homes. Here's a bit of good news, a major levee in the town of Fort Kent actually held and no one was injured.

What do you say we get to Reynolds Wolf, Severe Weather Center?

WHITFIELD: Great idea.

HARRIS: Yes, because Reynolds Wolf is focusing on some severe weather in the Midwest.

Reynolds, good morning.


HARRIS: All right, Reynolds. Appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

WOLF: You bet.

WHITFIELD: Meantime, we want to tell you about a story there we're watching out of Kentucky. This is a parent's nightmare, a school bus has been involved in an accident. Witnesses say a school bus collided with a dump truck.

Here are live pictures right now.

According to our affiliates, however, they are reporting one person has died from this accident. We also understand on board the school bus there 11 children. It's unclear of the fatality who this person just might be. It happened right off Highway 22 in Pendleton County, specifically on Highway 22 West, near Ballinger Road.

So live pictures right now of the response to this accident taking place involving a school bus. As we get more information we'll be able to bring that to you.

HARRIS: An Islamist militia leader targeted. The U.S. says he has close ties to al Qaeda. Missile strike in Somalia. The story in CNN NEWSROOM.


WHITFIELD: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

Major companies pouring big bucks into ads full of text message lingo. But do people really know what it all means? We'll hear from Veronica de la Cruz in the NEWSROOM.


WHITFIELD: Raging battles in Baghdad. U.S. forces report killing 17 fighters in the past 24 hours, all in the heavily populated Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City. Militants there have been fighting U.S. and Iraqi troops for weeks. More than 900 civilians and militants have died in the battle since late March.

U.S. military officials say troops are taking all precautions to avoid civilian casualties. Officials say, elsewhere in the country, American soldiers killed six people in raids targeting al Qaeda in Iraq.

Well, it has been five years since President Bush declared victory in what he called the battle of Iraq.


GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My fellow Americans, major combat operations in Iraq have ended, and the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed.


WHITFIELD: That was a moment where the banner said "Mission Accomplished." Well, the White House says President Bush has paid a price for that "Mission Accomplished" banner that was overhead. That one right there. It became a symbol of U.S. misjudgment and mistakes in the Iraq war.

The president's press secretary now says the banner was intended to celebration the mission of the Navy ship, not the entire war effort.

HARRIS: A U.S. missile strike in Somalia, the target, an Islamist militia leader.

Live now from CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.

Barbara, good morning. What can you tell us?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Tony. A U.S. military missile strike in northern Somalia overnight north of Mogadishu. The U.S. is not officially confirming it but all indications are that they got the man that they went after. This strike targeted a man named Adan Hashi Ayrow, a man that many U.S. officials say they believe he was the head of al Qaeda in Somalia, also a member of Islamic militant groups, and tied to Islamic militant groups operating in Somalia.

What they are waiting for before they make any official statement on it is confirmation from the ground that they got this man. And of course, Tony, that raises very interesting questions: how would the U.S. even know who they got on the ground, inside Somalia, because there are no U.S. troops on the ground in that country, of course, and very limited intelligence capability.

All indications from sources we've spoken to is that the U.S. now does have a number of trusted agents on the ground who have helped them not only with this strike but several of the other strikes in Somalia that we've seen over the months as the fighting has gone on in that very troubled country, the U.S. has been very concerned it became an al Qaeda stronghold once again and they are going after these people.

This is someone they wanted to get very badly, Tony.

HARRIS: Well, Barbara, I'm curious here. Should we expect the U.S. to conduct more of these types of strikes, air strikes, missile strikes in the future? We are certainly seeing more missile strikes, for example, in Sadr City.

STARR: Well, I think in Somalia, you -- absolutely all indications are that you will. This is a country that has just been wracked by violence for years and years, has no functioning government, has literally hundreds of thousands of displaced, very poor people with very little food because of the violence, because of the ongoing battles between all of these clans and with Islamic militants.

The man that they think they got today actually was someone who trained in Afghanistan, and has been said to be tied to attacks in the past. So these are the kind of people they want to get, and they have had some success using the intelligence they've developed on the ground in going after them, if they get more intelligence, they will go after more of these militant leaders -- Tony?

HARRIS: Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr for us this morning. Barbara, thank you.

STARR: Sure.

WHITFIELD: Actress Mia Farrow gets a pass from Hong Kong. She is in the city to speak out against China's relations with Sudan. Beijing authorities allowed her to enter the Chinese territory today. They are urging her not to disrupt Friday's Olympic torch relay, however. Farrow has been vocal about world response to the crisis in Darfur, she's particularly critical of China's trading ties with the African nation.

She and other activists want China to pressure Sudan to sop the violence in Darfur.

HARRIS: Smear it on. That shiny gloss can give you the look but are you inviting skin cancer? Lips to die far in the NEWSROOM.


HARRIS: But let's take everyone back to Pendleton County, Kentucky for a live look here at the scene of this school bus accident that you described just a short time ago.

Our affiliate there -- what does it say, WLWT providing the aerial view. Here's the distressing news here. At least one person is dead and 10 more are injured as a result of this school bus accident. Pictures from earlier of the scene.

And the Pendleton County Coroner's Office on the scene so that tell you about all you need to know about what this -- they're responding to at this point. And one witness says that dump truck is involved. And there it is. OK. Just trying to match the information we're getting with the pictures. And witnesses saying that the dump truck, obviously, flipped here. Ambulances on the scene as well.

Trying to get some additional information as to the injuries. Young people, obviously, involved in this at some kind of an accident there. Pretty badly, in fact.

We'll keep an eye on this situation in Pendleton County, Kentucky and get additional information for you right here in the NEWSROOM.

WHITFIELD: And this one on a much lighter note, but it does concerns our health.

You at the beach, envision this, your sexy lips shining with lip gloss.


WHITFIELD: Sun-kissed by the sun. (INAUDIBLE)

Dermatologists say possibly it's also inviting skin cancer.

CNN medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen explains.


ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Lip gloss may be pretty, but it may not be so good for you.

Some dermatologists theorize that all that shine brings in UV light that can penetrate your lips and lip cancer is the most common form of skin cancer and it is also the most aggressive. And there are 3,500 new cases every year. Now what exactly is going on here? Well, the dermatologists we talked to said it's kind of like having baby oil on your skin. It increases the amount of light that can get through and increases the chance that you're going to have a burn.

What are the signs that you might have lip cancer? Here they are. For example, white or orange spots on the lips. They're definitely something to be concerned about and to go see your doctor. A sore lasting more than two weeks is also a sign. And peeling and flaking and chapping are also signs that perhaps you should go see your doctor.

Now this lip gloss cancer link is far from solid. Some of the dermatologists we talked to said, well, theoretically that's true but show me the evidence. And so far there aren't any studies on this.

So what do you do if you still want to wear your lip gloss but you also want to protect yourself against skin cancer?

Here's what you can do. Underneath your gloss or lipstick, you can use a lip balm with SPF 30 -- that's something people ought to be doing anyways -- wear matte lipstick that's not shiny instead of gloss, use products that contain titanium dioxide, or mix your lipstick or your gloss with a little bit of zinc oxide, which can help protect against the sun.

So those are some simple steps to help protect your lips against the damaging effects of the sun.

Elizabeth Cohen, CNN, Washington.


HARRIS: Immigration, the stick that stirs the melting pot. Is the simmer coming to a boil?

Two activists who are demanding change are coming up for you next in the NEWSROOM.


ANNOUNCER: Covering the angles, uncovering the details, see for yourself in the CNN NEWSROOM.

WHITFIELD: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

HARRIS: And good morning, again, everyone. I'm Tony Harris.

She said it's time to put the controversy over their former pastor in the past. Michelle Obama talked with our Suzanne Malveaux about the Jeremiah Wright fallout. Suzanne live for us from Evansville, Indiana.

And you know what I'm going to ask you, Suzanne, why Michelle and why now? SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, the timing here, of course, Barack Obama the day before renouncing, denouncing their family pastor. This has been really a difficult time for them, and it has dogged them. They really want to get beyond this, move beyond this, and they got two important primaries just right around the corner on Tuesday, and North Carolina and, here where we are, Indiana.

She is called the rock behind Barack and she really lived up to her name there -- her nickname. She was funny. She was engaging but she was also adamant about trying to put the controversial pastor essentially aside to move on. This is somebody who was in their life for more than 20 years but they say it is time to turn the page.


MICHELLE OBAMA, SEN. BARACK OBAMA'S WIFE: I was proud of the statements that he made yesterday. It was a tough thing for him to do. It's a painful situation to be in.

MALVEAUX (on camera): Yes.

M. OBAMA: It was painful. Yes, it's been difficult, but I think that, you know, the more difficult thing that this country is facing is really trying to move politics into conversations around problems and problem-solving, and that's what we're going to be pretty determined to do, and I think, you know, this is about all I'm going to say on the issue and I think that, you know, we're going to close this chapter and move into the next phase of this election. So with that, I'm hoping that we'll talk about something else.

MALVEAUX: There are some people who I spoke with who have been trying on your behalf, on your husband's behalf to close this, and to go to him and say look, you know, this is enough. Enough is enough. One of the people I spoke with said, we're trying to establish a detente here, but they also describe him as someone who is vindictive. And perhaps there is no buttoning up when it comes to whether or not he is going to come out and talk again.

Do you feel confident that are can move forward, that he is not going to speak out again, or do you think this is something that is going to dog him in the election?

OBAMA: We're going to do our best to move forward. We're going to -- Barack and I and our campaign, we are going to, with everything in our power, if allowed to by the press, to move forward, and you know, we can't speculate about what other people will do. And you know, it's just pointless to try to speculate.


MALVEAUX: Now tony, she was actually with Caroline Kennedy in Boonville, Indiana. They are making the trip, the two of them, really as working moms, stressing the fact that they want to introduce, and even reintroduce Barack Obama, and talk about the things that matter to those voters. They need those female voters. They also need -- we've always been talking about the white blue- collar families as well. Michelle told me that she still believes that her husband can be president, can win this nomination, and become the president, and she says that she did recognize that 16 months, it's been a pretty tough fight.

HARRIS: Hey, Suzanne, I'm curious. We talk about the Reverend Wright controversy, we talk about the stress or strain of the campaign in terms of Michelle and Barack Obama, but I'm just sort of curious, there are children involved in this, too, and how are they holding up through all of this?

MALVEAUX: Sasha and Malia, their two young daughters, it's funny, I had a chance to talk to her about that. The one thing that she said that was the most difficult part in this long campaign, 16 months, is the family being away, being split up like this. They try to get together once a week when Barack Obama can come home to Chicago, to the family, spend some time with the girls. But here is what she said about the reward when it's all said and done.


MALVEAUX: Michelle, I understand that win or lose that Sasha and Malia get a dog.

OBAMA: They get a dog. Wouldn't you think?

MALVEAUX: But one of them's allergic to the dog.

OBAMA: They're hypoallergenic dogs, and she has effectively run off on the computer every breed of every hypoallergenic dog. So you know, those are the ones in our family who deserve the reward, because these are two little girls who didn't choose this, and they don't see their dad.


MALVEAUX: Tony, Michelle also said they're usually kind of bored with these campaign events. It really doesn't really impress them all that much. And they've really try to keep their lives normal as possible for these girls, keeping them in school. Only if it's like a break or something like that, that they'll actually ask them, invite them, do you want to come out and join dad and mom on the campaign trail.

Well, they're going to be out this weekend, the whole family together. They're going to be out in Indiana. And of course it's going to be really interesting to see how all of this unfolds on Tuesday. But they still feel confident, and they still feel like, look, the more people get to know him, not necessarily the pastor, but him, that they'll pay attention, and that they'll ultimately support him.

HARRIS: I'm all about the babies spending more time with daddy, all about that. Suzanne, great to see you. Thank you. If you are a political junkie, is the place for you. Check out our interactive delegate counter game, where you can play real time what-if scenarios with delegates and superdelegates,

And ahead in CNN NEWSROOM, John McCain on the offensive: who he's counting on to make the difference in the potential battleground states.

WHITFIELD: Immigration day, thousands of people will pour into American streets today to protest U.S. policies. Our next guests have been driving forces in the call for immigration reform. Teresa Gutierrez is a coordinator of today's immigration rallies in New York. And in Chicago, former organizer and veteran journalist Jorge Mujica is joining us there. Good to see both of you.

All right. Well, Jorge, let me begin with you. What is the objective of today's series of rallies?

JORGE MUJICA, MARCH 10TH COALITION: The objective is very clear. This is a problem still. We were here before. We are here today. We're going to be here tomorrow. There's got to be some kind of a solution. We want to remind politicians that they can close their eyes and by the time they open them again, we're going to be gone.


WHITFIELD: Well, what do you mean by that? What do you mean by that? It sounds like you're implying that these politicians, or U.S. policies, are about removing immigrants, period, from the country, and that's not my understanding of what this really is at issue. The issue is illegal immigration.

MUJICA: The issue is there are people here, millions of people who are paying taxes, who are working, who are not going away just because politicians don't talk about them. We would like them to address the issue, to talk about it again, not to forget it's fine to be with families, well, yes, we want to be with our families also. So there's got to be some solution for these millions of workers.

WHITFIELD: Well, Teresa, what do you see the driving point of today's rallies to be, the point that everyone who is participating from Chicago to New York would like people to hear?

TERESA GUTIERREZ, CO-COORDINATOR, N.Y. IMMIGRATION RALLIES: We have two main messages this afternoon that we're going to be expressing at Union Square. And No. 1 is that we are demanding that the raids and deportations stop. I think that the debate of whether it's the issue of illegal or legal is a part of the witch hunt and scapegoating that is going on against immigrants.

And No. 2, demand is immigrant rights, or workers rights, and that's one of the reasons why our march today will also be expressed in solidarity with the family of Sean Bell. We think that the NYPD actions are very similar to the raids that are going on by immigration and custom enforcement. We are for the rights of all immigrants, whether they're documented or not. If NAFTA had not passed, as many of us demanded in '94, we would not have this problem here today, and so that's why we've got to say no to the raids, we've got say no to the witch hunt and we've got to say no to the scapegoating of immigrants, documented or not.

WHITFIELD: And so, Teresa, today's focus, and the way in which these protests, I should say, are being orchestrated is very different from what we've seen recently. When in recent years, we've seen Day Without Immigrants, and that did kind of ruffle a lot of feathers. What was learned from the way in which those protests were organized, and how this organization has kind of reorganized the focus this go- round?

MUJICA: Well, what we believe is that we would have to express somehow. There has been several opinions in the past, whether we should strike or not. We have taken the most peaceful way to do it, let's demonstrate orderly on the streets, but we have to be paid attention to. We can't be ignored, and that's the basic issue. Whether we strike or do sit-ins, which are all legal, valid ways of actions, we want to be paid attention, not scapegoated. That's it.

WHITFIELD: And, Teresa, in New York, an 18-wheeler will be leading the march there. What's the symbolism? What's the symbolism? What's the reason?

GUTIERREZ: That's correct. We're very excited about that, because one of our objectives here in New York City, and why we're working with so many trade unionists is because we want to show, first of all, that immigrants rights is an issue of all workers, U.S. born, foreign born, legal or undocumented.

WHITFIELD: How so? I don't understand that part. How is this an issue for all workers? What do you mean?

GUTIERREZ: Because most people in this country have immigrant background, do we not? With the exception of native Americans, with the exception of people of African decent who were brought here in chains, everyone else was an immigrant, right, and so this is an issue that befalls all people.

WHITFIELD: But the push, just to stay on focus what is at issue when we talk about immigration in this country, the push is on illegal immigration, not on just the protection of rights of those...

MUJICA: The question, if I may intercede, is lack of visas.


WHITFIELD: OK, Teresa, let me let you finish first, and then, Jorge, you make your point.

GUTIERREZ: I think that's the push that's being made by some in the media or in the government. Our issue is that no human being is illegal. And the reason why people come here without documents is because of policies such as NAFTA, and so now that you created that situation by U.S. government-formed policy, now you want to scapegoat immigrants when you don't need them.

WHITFIELD: So, Jorge...

GUTIERREZ: And at the root of this is the economic crisis, is it not, and that's why it's important to reach out to workers who are being affected by the layoffs and the housing foreclosures.

WHITFIELD: All right. So, Jorge, let me make you point, and just to follow up on what Teresa is saying, so if you cross the border and you do not have proper documentation, that should not be considered illegal immigration?

MUJICA: I think the problem is not immigration. The problem is the lack of visas, the lack of resources to come to the United States legally. If the U.S. economy needs a quarter-million or half a million new workers each year because it's creating jobs, then that people should be allowed to come here and work here legally. The problem is the lack of visas. It's an administrative problem. It's not a problem of people wanting to break the law. It's the system not allowing them any legal way. That's what has got to be fixed.

WHITFIELD: Jorge Mujica and Teresa Gutierrez, thank you so much for your input this afternoon.

GUITERREZ: Thank you.

MUJICA: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Of course if you'd like to watch any of the immigration rallies or the speeches across the country today just go to We'll be streaming them live all day.


HARRIS: "Looking good" -- that's one official's assessment of a 2,000-acre wildfire burning at the edge of the Grand Canyon National Park. We've been telling you about this for most of the week. The blaze is more than 60 percent contained, and now calmer winds have helped firefighters. Crews hope to spend the day putting out spot hotspots. Wildfires are also burning in California, Nevada and New Mexico.

WHITFIELD: And just to a follow-up on that situation in Kentucky, in Pendleton County. You're looking at live pictures right now at the scene of a crash, a collision between a school bus with 11 students onboard and a dump truck. It's unclear exactly how these two careened together, but you see the one lane in each direction road there, and what seems to be a good 100 yards between the turned-over dump truck and the school bus. We understand according to our affiliate that one person has died, and that one person is that of a student according to our affiliates reporting there, tragic situation taking place in Pendleton County, Kentucky. Of course we're going to continue to follow the developments and find out exactly what the root of this accident between a school bus loaded with 11 children and a dump truck. More as we get it. (MARKET UPDATE)

WHITFIELD: All right, well, major companies pouring big bucks into ads full of text message lingo. But do people really know what it means? I can tell you I probably do not. We'll hear from Veronica de la Cruz in the NEWSROOM with a text-message breakdown.


WHITFIELD: All right, a shorthand popular with kids, text- message terms are now infiltrating the advertising world as well. They are also appearing in magazines and commercials. It just doesn't stop there.

VERONICA DE LA CRUZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're all into your cell phone.

WHITFIELD: Oh, it's sick. I tell you, I tell my friends, I'm like, do not text message me. I will not text you back.

DE LA CRUZ: Really?

WHITFIELD: I can't get into it.

DE LA CRUZ: Well, K-E-W-L, Kewl, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: My niece gave me that one. So I was like, OK, I get it, kewl.

DE LA CRUZ: Well, you know, this lingo is popular. It is popping up all over the place. It's also known as elite (ph) speak, and is in advertisements, right, Tony. You know all about elite speak. That started with gamers and it started with hackers, and now it's with the kids. It's also in advertisements. In Degree deodorant, there's one out there right now which asks you to log onto to their Web site, show your OMG moment. What does that mean?

WHITFIELD: Oh my gosh.

DE LA CRUZ: There you go.

And perhaps you've seen this commercial from Cingular Wireless.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you, you're old enough to know better.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mom, who could you be texting?


(END VIDEO CLIP) WHITFIELD: That is funny. The banter is funny, too. Oh my God, so kewl.

DE LA CRUZ: So it's not just Cingular, this has also appeared in Pepsi, McDonald's ads. It's being featured in this new TV show, on the CW network, and the CTIA, also known as the Wireless Association of Americans, sent some 363 billion text messages in 2007, so lots of people out there are text messaging, but who is catching on to all of this new lingo?


DE LA CRUZ: We took to the streets of New York to find out.



DE LA CRUZ (on camera): Excuse me sir, do you text message? If you saw this in an ad, what would think that meant?


DE LA CRUZ: One more guess.


DE LA CRUZ: Bring Robert back?



DE LA CRUZ: Excellent, we have a winner.

How about this one?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two terrific young ladies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Text me immediately?

DE LA CRUZ: That was a really good guess.

Would you know what this meant if you saw it?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, we're not on it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We come from Denmark, we know nothing...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right out of the fishing lake.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right out of the fishing lake.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think so. DE LA CRUZ: You've never said this to your girlfriend?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can't even pronounce a word like this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Falling on the floor laughing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Rolling on the floor laughing.

DE LA CRUZ: Very good.



WHITFIELD: Did you get it?


HARRIS: What was that?

DE LA CRUZ: ROTFL -- rolling on the floor laughing.


DE LA CRUZ: It's kind of like this, laugh out loud.

HARRIS: Well, that's universal. That's universal. We know that one. Come on, you got some tough ones in there?


WHITFIELD: That's going to be the only one I'm going to get, I know.


DE LA CRUZ: The next one.

WHITFIELD: I do know that one.

HARRIS: You know that one?


HARRIS: Yes, go ahead.

WHITFIELD: OK -- too much information.

HARRIS: Too much information.

WHITFIELD: OK, OK. I surprised myself because I thought I really knew nothing.

DE LA CRUZ: Very nice.

HARRIS: Why do you sound so surprised. WHITFIELD: I do not know.

DE LA CRUZ: You guys are not bad at this.

And the next one.

HARRIS: Isn't that a hair gel, IMO, isn't that a brand? It's not?



DE LA CRUZ: In my...

HARRIS: Office?

DE LA CRUZ: In my opinion.

HARRIS: Oh, in my opinion.

WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh.

DE LA CRUZ: Are you ready for the next one?

HARRIS: This is going to get bad fast.

DE LA CRUZ: It's nice to see you both F2F.

HARRIS: Face to face.

DE LA CRUZ: Very nice.


DE LA CRUZ: Wow. You know, you guys are pretty good at this. You guys are pretty good. So good that I'm going to give you this one. If you can get this one, because this one is hard; this one is not easy -- ISS.

WHITFIELD: Oh, my gosh. I mean that's not, oh, my gosh. I don't know.

DE LA CRUZ: I am so...

HARRIS: Sorry?

DE LA CRUZ: Okay, or I'm so sure.

WHITFIELD: I am so sure.

DE LA CRUZ: Which you've got to think, this is the lingo...

HARRIS: International Space Station, Tom? International Space Station? A producer of this show, Tom Fause (ph), let's call him out, International Space Station. Nice! DE LA CRUZ: So you guys know the bottom line is advertisers don't know whether or not this is working, because who is paying for the products? It's not the kids.

WHITFIELD: They're clearly looking for the younger demographic.

DE LA CRUZ: Exactly. The parents are shelling out the dough for these products. So are they really missing a mark here. That really is the question. And you know, just in case you out there want to know more about text-message lingo and you want to see it for yourself, you can go on and logon to these Web sites. We have That's going to help you break it down. Also That's a great Web site. You can actually enter in the text talk, and that is going to translate for you. So just in case you don't know what BRB, you just enter in BRB. And that's what?

WHITFIELD: What was BRB again?


WHITFIELD: Be right back?

DE LA CRUZ: Be right back!


DE LA CRUZ: You guys are good.


WHITFIELD: ... is young, hip and cool here on the floor. BRB is be right back! She's, like, cuing us.

HARRIS: Oh, please. I'm so with it, so happenin', so now.

Veronica, thank you.

DE LA CRUZ: Very nice, guys.

WHITFIELD: Thank you. That was very fun.

I feel a little smarter now.

HARRIS: You know we've been telling you this morning that another Hillary Clinton supporter has decided he is backing in this case, he is backing Barack Obama.

Joe Andrew is on the line with us. Joe, good to speak with you.

JOE ANDREW, DEMOCRATIC PARTY SUPERDELEGATE: Well, it's great to talk to you. Good morning.

HARRIS: And, Joe, let's make the case here so that folks at home understand how significant this is. You were the former Democratic National Committee chairman, and you were appointed to that post in 1999, am I correct? ANDREW: Well, that's correct. It's actually an elected position, but you don't get elected without the support of an incumbent president, and I was honored to be supported (INAUDIBLE). Bill Clinton, and Al Gore and the Democrats who were in Congress, and my support for Bill Clinton is -- continues to be profound. I think history is going to show that he was one of our greatest presidents.

HARRIS: Well, Joe, that's nice, Joe, that's nice, but you know he'll be a little disappointed to hear this news today, so maybe you can tell us why you're making this switch?

ANDREW: Well, I'm announcing my support for Senator Barack Obama for president today, and changing from Senator Clinton to Senator Obama, in calling not only on my fellow Hoosiers to unite behind Senator Obama, but my former and current (INAUDIBLE) superdelegates as well.

It's not as a criticism of Senator Clinton, but because the fact is I've just been inspired by Barack Obama. I think over and over again he's shown the mettle that it takes to be a great candidate, and more importantly , great president.

You know, Tony, you can be for someone without being against someone else.

HARRIS: I agree with that. I do agree with that.

ANDREW: And what I'm trying to make sure that people feel comfortable with, is you don't have to criticize one of these candidates to truly find that the other one is inspirational, that the other one rises above the normal politics of the day, and truly can bring people into this process, and represent our country in a way that is different than others could do.

HARRIS: Joe, let me just ask a real quick question here and then you can go on.


HARRIS: Have you made a calculation that -- is part of this you making a calculation that Hillary Clinton can't win this through delegates, through superdelegates, through the popular vote?

ANDREW: Not in the least. There's no calculation here. The fact of the matter is that neither one of them can actually get the nomination without the support of superdelegates at this point, and so neither one of them are any different because of that. I think that the party (INAUDIBLE) create superdelegates are crazy, but we've got them, and I happen to be one. And over the past week in particular, we see how Senator Obama has handled the Jeremiah Wright controversy and this gas tax controversy now. You can just see how he's willing to do what is right for the country, not what is right for him politically.

HARRIS: Would you have endorsed and made this wish if Barack Obama had not disavowed Reverend Wright just a couple days ago?

ANDREW: It's more than the disavow. It's the way in which he handled it, and the way in which he handled the gas controversy. It's easy politics to say we ought to get rid of the federal excise tax on gas. It's hard politics to say no, that's a bad policy. They put a little bit of money in your pocket today, but that's great politics when people are hurting all over the country. But you know, I can't wake up in the morning, look at my kids in the eye, and say for the price of half a tank of gas I'm going to give up on having a true energy policy in this country. Just to pander to grab a couple of votes I'm going to give up on doing what we all know is the right thing for our country over the long run.

HARRIS: And, Joe Andrew, have you placed a call to Hillary or Bill Clinton to inform them of your decision?

ANDREW: I have not, nor did I call Barack Obama. I think that's the old political theater here, where I'm supposed to, you know, either ask permission or beg for forgiveness. We all know what both of them would say, and I'm sure they're going to say it. And what they'll do is they'll take the exact same things Republicans said about me when I was defending Bill Clinton and use them against me, you know, old political theater, old politics. I'm not calling Barack Obama and I'm not calling Hillary Clinton. I'm going to do what I think is right.

HARRIS: Let me get your response to this statement on your decision from the Clinton campaign. "We have seen record turnout in state after state because Democrats are excited and enthusiastic about this primary process. On Tuesday Hoosiers will have their turn to come out in record numbers and support their candidate. We support that Democratic process and think that every American should be able to weigh in and support the candidate of his or her own choosing. Nothing specific here to your decision.

ANDREW: Well, obviously, I couldn't agree more. I want Hoosiers to come out in record numbers to vote Tuesday. I think after Tuesday, though, it's time for the superdelegates to decide. Again, the fact is neither one of the candidates now can win the nomination without the superdelegates. The polls demonstrate that John McCain, without doing much of anything, is now competitive against both of them. The lengthy primary process is no longer helping Democrats; it's helping Republicans. It's time to bring this process to an end. It's time to unify the party behind a candidate and go about the business of trying to make America a better place.

HARRIS: He is the former National Committee Chairman, Joe Andrew on the line with us this morning. Joe, appreciate it. Thanks for your time.

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