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Five Children Died in Texas Car Accident; Apparent Murder- Suicide in Maryland; Hunt on for Craigslist Killer; American Journalist Convicted on Spy Charges; Newspaper Editor Gunned Down
Aired April 18, 2009 - 22:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening, everyone, I'm Don Lemon. We start tonight with two breaking stories involving children. One in Maryland, where a father apparently killed his children and his wife, and then took his own life.
The other in Texas, where five children are dead tonight, victims of the terrible weather like you are seeing there roaring across the south. They drowned in flood waters after the car they were riding in was swept into a Houston Waterway. Two adults and one child managed to make it to dry ground. But sadly, the other five died.
We want to turn now to CNN meteorologist Bonnie Schneider to tell us about the severe weather.
Bonnie?
BONNIE SCHNEIDER, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Well, Don, I want to show you on Google Earth, where the accident occurred. Here's Greens Road. And you can see it is right along a bayou here. This is right near the Houston Intercontinental Airport.
The problem is that we still have flooding in this region. As I zoom in to the area, I want to show you that we've been tracking a record amount of rain. About 4.91 inches of rain. And most of this occurred actually within a three-hour period. Almost all of it, actually. So we saw incredible downpours with this system. And we're continuing to track it right now.
Most of the heavy rain is pushing off to the east. But we still have the threat for severe weather. A lot of this is occurring further off eastward, especially as we head towards Beaumont, Texas, and into Lake Charles, Louisiana. We're still tracking the threat for even tornadoes at this hour with this severe weather system, Don. So a tremendous amount of rain in a very short period of time for Houston, Texas.
LEMON: Sad, sad story. Thank you very much for that, Bonnie. We will check back with you if you get anymore information. Thank you so much.
Now to our other breaking news story out of Middleton, Maryland. An entire family found dead in their home. Detective says 34-year-old Christopher Wood apparently killed his wife and three young kids, then shot himself. Wood was found at the foot of the bed near the bodies of his 33-year-old wife, Francie, and their 2-year-old daughter. The couples 4 and 5-year-old sons were found dead in their beds.
Earlier, I asked the Frederick County Sheriff Charles Jenkins about the note Christopher Wood left behind.
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SHERIFF CHARLES JENKINS, FREDERICK COUNTY: At this point, we're still looking at all the evidence we've been able to recover. There were at least five separate notes found throughout the house. So right now, investigators are analyzing everything in those notes.
LEMON: So we don't know about a motive. We don't know what was behind this, right?
JENKINS: There is some indication in at least one of the notes that there could have been some psychological issues with Mr. Woods.
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LEMON: Well, Sheriff Jenkins says there is no previous domestic violence at the Wood Family home. Mrs. Wood's brother is a retired Frederick County Deputy.
Let's go right to the scene now with Jacqueline Wade. She's with our affiliate WHAG.
Jacqueline, what else are investigators finding out at this hour?
JACQUELINE WADE, WHAG CORRESPONDENT: Well, investigators were here working until about two hours ago they left. But this community is still just in shock after this tragedy. They have released that in the five handwritten notes one of them did mentioned a medicine that is used to treat some kind of psychological problems. They wouldn't elaborate on that. But they also said that another of those notes said that he was sorry for what he was about to do. And these notes were left intentionally to be found by whoever found the bodies.
Now, police also say that they have found some indications that the family was having some kind of financial problems with debt. But, again, they don't know the exact motive or the exact cause behind what cause this tragedy right now.
LEMON: All right. Thank you very much. Hey, any -- you know, we heard about the motive from the sheriff. No possible motive. He said, still, nothing emerging about that. Nothing new clinging from those letters, correct?
WADE: No. Nothing right now. They have taken those letters. And, obviously, they're going to continue their investigation. They have the bodies at the medical examiner's office. They plan to start the autopsies tomorrow. And hopefully, we'll find out a little more then.
LEMON: Jacqueline Wade of our affiliate WHAG, we appreciate your reporting this evening. Thank you very much. She is live from the scene there. We want to go back to Texas. The site of our breaking news at the top of the newscast. We have some new information to tell you about those five children that are dead tonight. Victims of that terrible weather. Deputy Chief Omero Longoria of the Houston Fire Department joins me now on the phone.
Thank you, sir, for joining us. Sad story that we are hearing. Five children, and we are told two adults did manage to make it to the shore along with another child, but sadly the others ones were washed away?
DEPUTY CHIEF OMERO LONGORIA, HOUSTON FIRE DEPARTMENT (via telephone): That's correct. It's about 5:00 this afternoon. The Houston Fire Department responded to the report of a vehicle in a bayou. We have a vehicle that was heading east on Greens Road and spun out of control. Basically, ended up in the bayou. There were eight occupants in the vehicle. Two adults and six children.
LEMON: I want to tell you -- I just want to interrupt you really quickly here, sir, because we're getting new video. This is of the rescue of those children, or at least the dramatic efforts to try to save them. And also, just what type of situation that they were up again, sir. I'm sorry to cut you off. But go ahead and continue your statement, please.
LONGORIA: Right. Just as I was saying, the two adult males and one 10-year-old female were able to make it to safety. But, unfortunately, we have a situation here where we have five children, two females and three males that are basically we are in recovery mode at this time.
LEMON: Very sad. Deputy Chief Omero Longoria in Houston. Sad story coming out of there. And this new video that you're looking at of the rescue. Trying to rescue those five children after their van -- after their car, I should say, was swept away into a waterway. Partly due to or mostly due to the bad weather that's happening there, the flooding and the severe weather that's happening in Texas and now spreading east across much of the south. It's moving east. Sad story there. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it.
LONGORIA: Thank you.
LEMON: We have some more details tonight on the search for a criminal, who police say picked his victims from Web ads. One woman is dead and two others robbed at gunpoint. Boston police say 26-year- old Julissa Brisman was shot to death late Tuesday night at a hotel. She had placed an ad on Craigslist offering massages.
Investigators now want to talk with the man seen on surveillance photos taken in the hotel lobby. Police in Warwick, Rhode Island, connected the dots between the three cases when an exotic dancer was found and held at gunpoint in a hotel, late Thursday night.
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CHIEF STEPHEN MCCARTNEY, WARWICK, RHODE ISLAND POLICE: Preliminary investigation suggests that the assailant was responding to an advertisement that was posted by the victim on Craigslist. Warwick police detectives are actively investigating this case to include the possibility that this incident may be related to similar crimes occurring in the Boston area.
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LEMON: Detectives are now asking for help in identifying the tall, clean cut, blond man in the surveillance photos. Call police if you have any information on this.
We want to turn now to a developing story overseas. 31-year-old American journalist Roxana Saberi has been convicted of spying for the United States in Iran and sentenced to eight years in prison. Her sentencing followed a trial that was closed to the public. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says she is deeply disappointed, and a U.S. senator calls the conviction preposterous. President Obama spokesman is also weighing in.
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ROBERT GIBBS, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I would echo the statement that Secretary Clinton put out on this. The president is deeply disappointed at this news. His thoughts and prayers are with her and her family. And I think we will continue to express the concerns that we have through the Swiss to the Iranian government, and make sure they underscore and understand our deep concern for these actions.
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LEMON: Robert Gibbs. Iran's president is expected to make a statement at some point, calling on people to respect the court's decision. I talked to CNN chief international correspondent Christiane Amanpour by phone tonight.
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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): That's not going to go down well in the United States or elsewhere, amongst people who want Roxana Saberi freed. What we do know is that she is able to appeal. Her lawyer is. She was apparently denied bail. But has 20 days to appeal. And we also know that there are provisions in the Iranian government and regulations and rules that permit pardons.
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LEMON: Christiane Amanpour there. Saberi's lawyer is vowing to appeal the verdict within the 20-day period. The young journalist stood trial without her lawyer even being present.
We have a new development to tell you out of the Summit of the Americas, and signs of a potential thaw in U.S. relations with Venezuela. There's word tonight that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez may -- we repeat -- may name an ambassador to the United States. We learned just minutes ago that he approached Secretary of State Hillary Clinton today to discuss the issue. Chavez expelled the U.S. ambassador last September and the U.S. responded by ordering Venezuela's ambassador to go home.
President Barack Obama has made a point of saying he wants to change the tone of U.S. relations with Latin America, including countries like Venezuela and Cuba known for criticizing the U.S.
And on a related topic tonight, President Chavez gave President Obama a book which not surprisingly we're told takes a very negative view of past U.S. policies in Latin America. The book is called "Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent." And get this, it's gone from obscurity to best seller overnight. It's number 14 on Amazon.com's best seller list. On Friday, it was ranked number 6,280.
They are difficult stories to hear about -- mass shootings and murder-suicides. But it seems like we're seeing more of this tragic cases right now, and we're seeing plenty of them. What's behind the apparent uptick in violence. We'll dig deeper for you tonight in a conversation you don't want to miss.
Also, another conversation you don't want to miss. The 2009 tea parties across the country. Thousands of people hit the streets. But what was really going on behind the protests. We'll tell you.
And they are being called SEAL superheroes. We'll take you to their camp, their boot camp.
Plus this for you.
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LEMON: Wise words from the man who broke the color barrier in the NBA. He's an African-American First you should know about. We'll re-introduce you to Earl Lloyd.
Also, tell us what's on your mind, please. We want your comments. We want your voice to be heard here -- Twitter, Facebook, MySpace or iReport.com. We'll get them on.
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LEMON: Here's what some of you are saying. This is your feedback. Kareneng0425 says, "I think that we should all pay the same amount and have a "fair" tax from one and all.
Litekepr says, "Original tea party, taxation without representation. We are not represented when lawmakers don't read or understand before they vote." The_write_stuff says, "Don, I think the mainstream media and some on the left were surprised at the organization of the tea parties. More are to come."
Kzzl says, "I'd be willing to pay higher taxes if I felt I were getting an actual return on my investment."
BlessedinBHam says, "Many tea party goers used this as an opportunity to fight against the current administration. A few were probably sincere."
Make sure you join our conversation. Get your comments on. Twitter, to Facebook, MySpace or iReport.com. That's how your voice is heard.
OK, talk taxes and it's a surefire way to get people all riled up. But what's really the truth behind the money we pay into the system? Earlier tonight, I put that question to three of our guests.
Author, columnist, and blogger David Sirota. Radio host Ben Ferguson with the Icon Radio Network. And tax attorney Roni Deutch. They weren't short on answers. Take a look.
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LEMON: Roni, where do we stand on taxes? What is the truth about taxes that are -- Americans have been paying the last couple of years, rising, falling and compared to other countries.
RONI DEUTCH, "THE TAX LADY'S GUIDE TO BEATING THE IRS": Here's the issue. Taxpayers are intaxicated. We are paying federal tax, state tax property, gas tax, property tax, sales tax. We'll be tax when we breathe.
LEMON: Amen.
DEUTCH: So when you and I step back and think about that taxpayer who is out there protesting, they want tax reform.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
DEUTCH: They're not saying to President Obama, "hey, we don't think you're going to lower taxes for us. I think what they're saying is I'm sick and tired of getting taxed to death, when we are printing money and rewarding failure and mediocrity.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely.
DEUTCH: Do you realize that 60 percent of the American people, small business owners like myself, we bear the burden. We are the people employing Americans. I want to see some great tax programs for small business owners.
Don, what about the 30 million to 40 million people who cannot even afford to pay the IRS. These are much larger issues --
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LEMON: Hang on. Hang on. Ronnie, you know, I heard that you were enthusiastic about taxes when we reach out to you, and you are. Thank you. I appreciate your energy and enthusiasm.
BEN FERGUSON, ICON RADIO NETWORK: The reason why you had people from both political spectrums show up is because they realize that something just happened. The deficit just went up, drastically. We just, literally, made $1 trillion more and threw it out there. We are bailing out huge corporations. And this guy is saying, hey, I'm going to give you a tax break. And they're going, you know what, if you are going to tax the guys that employ me to death, I lose my job. That's the reason why this week, the Obama administration said in Washington --
DAVID SIROTA, AUTHOR, "THE UPRISING": Trickle down, trickle down, trickle down.
FERGUSON: No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on.
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SIROTA: Trickle down, trickle down, trickle down.
FERGUSON: Hey, you can say (INAUDIBLE).
LEMON: Go ahead, David.
FERGUSON: It's a cute point, but you're missing the facts here.
SIROTA: We have been hearing this stuff -- we have been hearing this stuff for 30 years.
FERGUSON: Hey, there's a reason why we're the greatest country in the world.
SIROTA: Cut taxes on the wealthiest people in the country, and they'll benevolently be nice to all of us -- all of the masses. Cut taxes on the super wealthy and it will trickle down.
You got to get new talking points, Ben. You got to get new talking points.
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FERGUSON: I go back to this point. Why do we have more millionaires? Why do we have more millionaires in America than any other country in the world? Why?
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SIROTA: Most polls -- most recent polls show that the public -- that the American public wants taxes raised on the wealthy.
FERGUSON: Really?
SIROTA: That most Americans -- the most recent Gallup Poll shows that the public thinks the wealthy pays too little taxes.
FERGUSON: So most Americans...
SIROTA: That's right.
FERGUSON: Most Americans want the American to be killed.
SIROTA: The majority understand that the tax system is not fair and rewards the super wealthy, and they're not tax standards.
You want to keep cutting taxes.
FERGUSON: I go back to -- there's a reason why America -- there's a reason why America -- hold on, hold on.
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LEMON: OK. One at a time.
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FERGUSON: There's a reason why America is the greatest country in the world. And that's because you actually can, and I believe --
SIROTA: It's because we didn't used to cut taxes on billionaires.
FERGUSON: Hold on. I let you talk. Hold on. Hold on.
Listen to what I'm actually saying, OK? My point is it's about America. The reason why we're the greatest nation in the world, and the reason why we have low taxes, because we actually, in this country, allow people to succeed and we don't tax them to death. Your mindset is if you make too much money, you should pay more. And that's what kills the American dream.
LEMON: OK. David...
SIROTA: Let me respond to that.
LEMON: ...quick response.
SIROTA: I'll respond to that by saying, remember, our economy did the best, was the strongest and grew at the fastest, when the highest rate of taxes was over 70 percent. So your idea of slashing taxes for zillionaires...
FERGUSON: (INAUDIBLE)
SIROTA: ...to build our economy is what got us into this economic problem.
LEMON: Hang on. All right, hang on, guys, we're going to --
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LEMON: They said they were not short on answers.
And, you know, many people across the country expressed their frustration with the current tax system by holding tea parties on tax day. Well, earlier, I asked "Washington Post" columnist Howard Kurtz to assess the message it sent.
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HOWARD KURTZ, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON POST: Well, there is no question, Don, that Fox News hosts, you know, heavily promoted and publicized these tea party protests. And some of the commentators were the big stars, who did their shows in some of the cities where the protesters gathered.
At the same time, I think that much of the mainstream media, including the "Washington Post," "New York Times," CNN, kind of missed the significance of these protests. This was no million man march, but clearly there is some grassroots unhappiness with President Obama and his big budget. And I think there was a little bit too much of a dismissive attitude among some journalist as, well, this was just something that was orchestrated by Fox when, in fact, it did have a grassroots aspect to it.
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LEMON: Howard Kurtz and CNN, we'll have much more on the tax tea parties tomorrow morning on "STATE OF THE UNION WITH JOHN KING," 9:00 a.m. Eastern, 6:00 Pacific.
Make sure you tune in.
An investigative journalist gunned down in the streets of Oakland. Now a plea deal is expected in the Chauncey Bailey case, but will it bring closure.
Also, he did for the NBA what Jackie Robinson did for baseball. But do you remember this guy's name? We'll reintroduce you to an African-American First.
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LEMON: OK. We want to talk to you about several things that have been happening in the news, including this story which has really gained a groundswell of support. And also just in the news, folks have been talking about it.
We're talking about the man charged with killing an Oakland California newspaper editor. He's expected to plead guilty next week. The man admits the killing of Oakland post editor Chauncey Bailey with the shotgun in 2007. Now his attorney says he will plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter in Bailey's death and another killing. Broussard will tell a grand jury that Yusuf Bey, owner of Your Black Muslim Bakery contracted him to kill Bailey and another man. Broussard says Bey wanted to stop Bailey from publishing an investigative story about his bakery's finances.
Let's get to the bottom of this to see what is what in this case.
Bob Butler is a reporter with The Chauncey Bailey Project and KCBS radio. He joins us live from Tampa, Florida. And Thomas Peele is a veteran investigative reporter with the Bay Area News Group. He is in San Francisco tonight to discuss this case.
Thank you both very much for joining us tonight. We have heard a lot about this case. And, you know, it's a sad tragedy obviously that Chauncey Bailey was gunned down.
Mr. Butler, tell me in your estimation what is going on and your feelings about this.
BOB BUTLER, CHAUNCEY BAILEY PROJECT: Well, this was a very important case for us to investigate, because Chauncey Bailey was the first journalist gunned down, first American journalist gunned down in the United States for work what he was doing.
He was basically investigating this organization called Your Black Muslim Bakery. And what we understand is that because they didn't want him doing the story, they decided to kill him.
LEMON: They decided to kill him.
OK, Mr. Peele, I understand that you and this -- you were talking before. What is your concern when it comes to this story? I just want to -- go ahead.
THOMAS PEELE, BAY AREA NEWS GROUP: Well, someone had called me earlier and said they were from CNN, and asked me about the wrong person confessing.
LEMON: About -- OK, that must have been someone else. So I just wanted to get your concern about that. So tell me -- tell me about your feelings toward this.
Well, I mean, is there a factual question. I mean, I don't really have feelings about it.
LEMON: Well, I just want to talk to you about it. I mean, I didn't want you to be upset during the interview because you seemed to think that someone called, but it wasn't us.
PEELE: No, I mean, somebody -- I mean, somebody did.
LEMON: OK. We'll talk about it. Let's move on.
So, apparently, they were saying that this was an order for someone's finances or not. I'll go back -- I'll go back now to Mr. Butler.
And Mr. Butler, how are you working on this? You heard about the suspect apparently confessing in all of this. Do you believe that this will bring closure to the people who loved Chauncey Bailey and who were upset -- obviously, were close to him, after he was gunned down? BUTLER: Well, I've talked to Chauncey's sister. And she is very concerned that -- all along when I have talked to her, she has said, you know, we think that more than one person was involved in this. And so when she found out the person that we all -- the guy that who had been charged with this was going to plead guilty, she was very happy about that because, you know, she's been wondering for 20 months who killed her brother and why. So I think this will bring a certain amount of closure to her. But she still is very concerned that it took this long to get to the truth.
LEMON: Why did it take so long to get to the truth, do you think? Was it investigators? Was it law enforcement? Or was it just a whole cacophony of things that was too much to get into or too much to dig into?
BUTLER: Well, you know, I think -- to be honest, I think Tom could probably answer that. You know, we started looking into this story, you know, like I said almost 20 months ago. And we were very concerned because the people that had done this, you know, we were wondering whether or not they're going to try and come after us. But, you know, we began looking at them and then, you know, Tom, really started focusing in on the police, and that's where we really got some traction.
LEMON: OK. All right.
Now, Mr. Peele, I want to ask this question. I know that you did a lot of investigating. And you're an investigative reporter with this story.
How did you become involved with the case and what did you uncover as far as bringing it to law enforcement in order to get it to this point?
PEELE: Well, we came to the case, a group of journalists gathered. I mean, there is a precedent for this when a journalist is killed in this country.
Mr. Bailey was the first American reporter killed for a story he was working on since 1976. In 1976, a group of investigative reporters gathered in Phoenix to answer the murder of an "Arizona Republic" reporter named Don Bolles. So we had a precedent for doing this. We wanted to finish his work and to make sure that the police investigation into his killing was complete and thorough.
LEMON: OK. And to that end?
PEELE: Well, to that end, the lead homicide detective assigned to the case has been suspended and is -- his termination is pending. Investigators have found that he compromised the case because he had a relationship with the person who was in charge of the bakery, who the alleged gunman has told prosecutors now that it was that person who ordered him to kill Mr. Bailey.
LEMON: Yes. And I get e-mails regarding this story when we were told that we were going to be doing it. And a lot of folks said, you know, journalists are killed overseas and there is outrage and there are consequences. But it seems like when it happens here in the United States, it takes -- you know, it's so secure to sort of come to justice with all of this. And Mr. Peele, it seems like your work may have helped at least to this point bringing some sort of closure and getting it to this point.
Go ahead.
PEELE: Well, we reported -- Bob and another reporter named Mary Fricker and myself -- reported a story in November -- I'm sorry, late October of last year in which there was some action.
The mayor of Oakland in response to our story asked the state attorney general to come in and work with the Police Internal Affairs Unit to look at how the case was investigated. Also the county district attorney began an independent investigation into the facts surrounding the murder, because it was very obvious from the stories that we did and the information that we had presented to the public that more than one person was involved in this killing, and yet the conspiracy was not being aggressively pursued by police or charged.
LEMON: Bob Butler, Thomas Peele, we appreciate it. Thank you very much. Best of luck to you guys, OK?
PEELE: Thank you.
BUTLER: Thank you.
LEMON: They are the best of the best. The U.S. Navy SEALs, and they were they key to Captain Richard Phillips' successful rescue. We're taking a closer look at the elite group of men and the training they go through.
Plus, they are difficult stories to hear about -- mass shootings and murder-suicides. But it seems like more of these tragic cases right now. What is behind the apparent uptick in violence? We'll dig a little deeper for you.
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LEMON: Let's try to help people when it comes to all these tragedies and hopefully won't happen again.
There have been several weeks of deadly and violent stories in the headlines. Today's tragic murder/suicide in Maryland, the shooting in Pittsburgh that left three police officers dead and the shooting in Binghamton, New York, where more than a dozen people were killed. Really, the question is, what's pushing people over the edge? It appears (OFF-MIKE) and people are taking their anger out on groups of people.
My guest tonight, Dr. Gloria Morrow. She's a clinical psychologist and author of "Things That Make Men Cry." And then Linda Smith is a psychotherapist and author of "Friendship on Fire."
Thank you so much to both of you. LINDA MILES, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Thank you.
LEMON: Mrs. Miles -- apparently -- did your earpiece fall out?
MILES: No.
LEMON: Can you tell her that you're on the air?
MILES: Yes.
LEMON: OK. So anyway -- hey, thank you. So, listen, when you hear these stories, you're -- you know, a psychotherapist, when you hear these stories, Dr. Miles...
MILES: Yes?
LEMON: ...is there a solution? Because we always -- you know, we do these things and say, is there a solution? Is there something out there that's pushing people to become more angry, more violent and to lash out?
MILES: Well, you know, we know that one of the things that is very detrimental in domestic violence situations is for people to feel isolated. And if you have a man who went out to work and had a job and felt like he had a sense of purpose, and then he's isolated and perhaps isolated with his wife and children, the danger goes up for violence.
LEMON: Dr. Morrow, several of these stories, it appears that the economy may have been a factor. People losing their jobs. And we have talked about this before. Men take it much more harshly when they lose their jobs. Is the economy really a factor? And is there -- it appears we have been reporting on it more, is there an uptick?
To me it appears so. And it also appears that, as I said, they're targeting bigger groups of people. Not just themselves. Taking their children's lives and their wives' lives and then taking their lives.
DR. GLORIA MORROW, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Yes. While I think there is an increase in domestic violence and violence during this critical time, but I want to say that people that are having a history of violence, people who are mentally ill and are not having treatment for mental illness, and those people who don't have a good support system with the inability to solve problems and manage their anger, are going to be more at risk.
So I don't know whether or not there's an increase in the number of people who are, you know, engaging in domestic violence right now, but I do know that those factors tend to exacerbate it for people.
LEMON: Yes, and this is going on for a while, and is probably going on for a little bit longer. So, like the family -- like the family today, Ms. Miles...
MILES: Yes. LEMON: ...the one in Maryland. Like how do you get to that family? Because, really, there were no warning signs. They believe that the police were never at the home before. The guy did write letters, but -- I mean, are there necessarily always warning signs in these situations?
MILES: Generally, there are warning signs. Generally, we know.
LEMON: Like what? Like what are the signs, though?
MILES: Early signs are that person may have been controlling of his family, trying to control where they went or what they did. Also very oftentimes what you find is a person who kind of flies off the handle, goes into rages if they don't get what they want.
LEMON: Yes.
MILES: And also they tend to be jealous and possessive and to cut their wife and children off from other people in the community. So you definitely tend to see signs leading up to this.
LEMON: OK. So -- Dr. Morrow, she talked about signs. Where do people go for help?
MORROW: Well, people should start, of course, with talking to one another openly about their feelings. Couples should be talking right now, especially during this time. And I know this is difficult for men who may not want to talk about their problems. They would rather fix the problem. So, that's one solution.
But the other solution is to seek some professional help early on. We've talked about some of the signs that she just mentioned. But I think that many times people are suffering from mental illness and it is untreated. And we need to get help immediately.
LEMON: Dr. Morrow, Linda Miles -- Dr. Linda Miles, thank you both very much for joining us. I wish we had more concrete information, if there were something that, you know, red light or something that would go off to let people know that someone is about to snap. Unfortunately, it's not that simple, though. We appreciate your time this Saturday night. Thank you very much.
MILES: Thank you.
MORROW: Thank you for having me.
LEMON: Captain Richard Phillips said it best. Take a look.
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RICHARD PHILLIPS, "MAERSK ALABAMA" CAPTAIN: The first people I want to thank are the SEALs. They're the superheroes. They're the titans.
(END VIDEO CLIP) LEMON: And they are the best of the best. The U.S. Navy SEALs. They were the key to Captain Richard Phillips' successful rescue. We'll take you to boot camp.
Also, one woman, two missions -- feeding the hungry and rescuing the rainforest. You'll meet her.
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LEMON: Yet another ship has been hijacked by Somali pirates. This one registered to Belgium. It happened off the coast of the Seychelles Islands in the Indian Ocean. The ship has a crew of seven. An e-mail was sent to the U.S. Navy claiming the ship would be taken to a pirate stronghold north of Mogadishu.
Captain Richard Phillips is home after he and his crew were held captive also by Somali pirates. He is fanning away his hero accolades and instead says the Navy SEALs are the real heroes here.
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PHILLIPS: The first people I want to thank are the SEALs. They're the superheroes. They're the titans. They're impossible men doing an impossible job. And they did the impossible with me. And I just want to let you know they are out there. They are everyday people we will not recognize and I will not divulge, but they did an excellent job and they saved me. They're at the point of the sword everyday, doing an impossible job which we cannot comprehend.
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LEMON: And you just heard Captain Phillips call them superheroes. He's talking about the Navy SEALs, the men who rescued him. CNN Pentagon correspondent Chris Lawrence takes a look at how they train.
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CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice over): A Navy SEAL team deploys in a California desert, but it's just one part of their training. Each of these SEALs has fired his weapon thousands of times, in every way possible, bone dry, soaking wet, sitting still, at a full run. The Navy says a SEAL can fire more ammo in one training session than some troops do their entire careers. It's an elite group of only 2,600 men, and they're all considered expert marksmen.
CMDR. DUNCAN SMITH, U.S. NAVY SEALS: These are the folks that the nation counts on for those maritime special operations missions.
LAWRENCE: Finding them begins here at Basic Underwater Demolition School or BUDS.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you get halfway, your swim buddy has got to be there take the dumbbells from you.
LAWRENCE: It's called the toughest training in the world. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
LAWRENCE: Six months of sheer hell.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't do (bleep).
LAWRENCE: Recruits who make it to hell week will sleep a total of four hours max over the entire five days. It's designed to push a man past his breaking point and prepare them to one day complete a mission like the one off the coast of Somalia. There, the SEALs parachuted into the Indian Ocean and waited hours on the back deck for a split second opportunity to shoot.
DICK COUCH, FORMER NAVY SEAL: They were in a higher state of readiness toward the end there. I'm sure that they were locked, dialed in, waiting for that shot.
LAWRENCE: Sharp shooters like that have likely been through two tours of duty with their SEAL team.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's go, Johnson. BUDS just passed you up.
LAWRENCE: Twenty-six SEALs have been killed since September 11th, but those deaths motivate this class on the morning of their five-mile swim. More than four hours in cold, open water, each stroke, a little closer to earning the SEAL's Trident.
CHRISTOPHER MADDOX, SEAL RECRUIT: I guess it's just a piece of metal that you put on your shirt, but knowing where that piece of metal comes from, everybody that's died and gotten hurt for it, it just -- it means more to me than anything.
LAWRENCE (on camera): Instructors say it's that intense mental discipline that really separates the SEALs. The sharpshooters on the "Bainbridge" would have been through a photo imaging course, where they learn how to take pictures of their target, then surveillance training, then sniper school. Those shots they took would have been like muscle memory for them.
Chris Lawrence, CNN, the Pentagon.
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LEMON: All right, Chris. Earlier, I spoke with a former Navy SEAL about the intense training snipers have to undergo.
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LEMON: And, Brandon, talk to us about the training because, I mean, it seems, obviously, it is really intense. When you look at the missions like Captain Phillips, absolutely necessary this intense training that these guys go through because that shot was not an easy one to make. Those shots, I should say.
BRANDON WEBB, FORMER NAVY SEAL: Yes, Don, absolutely. I mean the BUDS training is hard enough as it is, as you can see from the prior footage. But we get these guys in the SEAL community, that come to sniper training. And, you know, we have them for three months. And we put them through such rigorous stress to simulate these real- world environments and situations that, you know, I've had more than one graduate look me in the eye and say, I'd rather go through the entire seven months of BUDS training over again than the sniper course because it is just so stressful.
But we, you know, we graduate the top marksmen in the world. And, you know, I'm proud to have personally been a part of the program as the sniper course manager.
LEMON: This is a very elite group of men and you can see why -- because of what they do. Why so secretive about their mission? And I know this is an obvious question here. But why so secretive and why don't we know more about this special unit?
HARRY HUMPHRIES, FORMER NAVY SEAL: Well, op-sec, as we call it, operational security is paramount.
LEMON: Yes.
HUMPHRIES: We can't give even the smallest details away on how we operate. Brandon and I, for instance, having these interviews, have to be very careful about how much we do talk about. Our brothers are out there at war. When we start talking to you folks out there, we're also talking to the enemy. We know that.
LEMON: Right.
HUMPHRIES: So we have to be very careful in what we talk about. We are sensitive to that.
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LEMON: Former Navy SEALs Brandon Webb and Harry Humphries, thanks to both of them.
He did for the NBA what Jackie Robinson did for baseball, but do you remember his name? We're going to tell you.
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LEMON: A businessman in Upstate New York hopes to be hiring soon. His green cheese venture could reduce his community's jobless rate, which is hovering near 10 percent. Here's CNN's Money.com's Poppy Harlow. Her report is part of our new series. It's called "Money & Main Street."
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POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM CORRESPONDENT (voice over): For Cuba County, New York, an entrepreneur with an affinity for cheese could be just the stimulus that its struggling tows need.
LARRY ROSENBAUM, SARATOGA CHEESE CORPORATION: This is the beginning of a trend of bringing back manufacturing industry to New York State.
HARLOW: For 10 years, Larry Rosenbaum has been dreaming of a cheese factory turning out kosher and halal, feta and brie to the tune of 30 million pounds a year.
(on camera): What is the demand? And is it just in the U.S. or is it around the world?
ROSENBAUM: Well, actually, in the United States, the kosher cheese market is the type of cheese that's being made is not a high quality cheese.
HARLOW (voice over): Drawing from local farms and using green technology, Saratoga Cheese Corps. hopes not only to make cheese, but also help surrounding industries.
DALE HEMMINGER, HEMDALE FARMS: It's a really important thing that we're getting another market for our product.
HARLOW: Dairy farmer Dale Hemminger was skeptical of Larry's plan at first.
HEMMINGER: I was a little concerned. But I really admire that the research -- they've done.
HARLOW (on camera): As soon as 2010, this barren corn field on the outskirts of town could be home to a $40 million, 64,000 square foot cheese factory. And with the cheese, will come the jobs.
MAYOR MICHAEL QUILL, AUBURN, NEW YORK: There are 75 people we employ at the factory.
HARLOW (voice over): But Larry's dream is still $10 million short. He says he's raised $30 million, but he can't break ground until he reaches $40 million. As for the final slice of funding, Larry says both a dairy company and a private equity firm have expressed interest.
ROSENBAUM: We're not going to quit until we make it.
HARLOW: With 75 jobs at the factory, 150 construction jobs and an estimated $140 million in local revenue waiting in the balance, a lot is riding on Larry's shoulders.
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HARLOW: It sure is. Well, Larry, his friends, his family, they've all invested $1 million of their own money in the project, which is 10 years in the making. We're going to stay in touch with Larry and let you know how makes out -- Don.
LEMON: All right. Thank you, Poppy.
Wise words from the man who broke the color barrier in the NBA. We'll reintroduce you to Earl Lloyd, an African-American first you should definitely know about. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
LEMON: All right. Most everybody has heard the name Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Earl Lloyd. Earl Lloyd? Doesn't ring a bell. Won't you listen up? Earl Lloyd had a lot to do with helping the others, those other names I told you about, helping them become NBA superstars. I spoke to him for my ongoing series. It's called "African-American Firsts: Up from a Past."
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LEMON (voice over): At 6'5", Earl Lloyd has a good idea of your first thought about him.
EARL LLOYD, FIRST BLACK NBA PLAYER: They don't know who you are. I mean, they see you. You're a tall black guy. You know, even though you're older, somehow they think you've been associated with basketball.
LEMON: Though he's not a household name nor face, the faces of today's NBA credit him for paving the way. Lloyd was the first African-American to play in the league.
LLOYD: In any situation where there is none, sooner or later there's going to be one. I feel good that I was some place early, and now allow these guys to enjoy the career they enjoy.
LEMON: An all-white NBA is hard to imagine today. About 75 percent of the players are African-Americans. But in the early '50s, black players like Earl Lloyd were tearing up college basketball courts. From 1947 through 1948, Earl led his team, West Virginia State, to a phenomenal season as the only undefeated team in the nation.
Envious of baseball booms sparked by diversity, putting more butts in the seats, the NBA and the Washington Capitals drafted Lloyd in 1950. He credits much of his success and ease to Jackie Robinson.
LLOYD: Jackie Robinson was a renaissance man. I come three years later, and all the barriers that I might have experienced, if he had not been there, they were gone.
LEMON: The college forward was a ninth round NBA pick in 1950, played for two seasons, but left to serve his country. After the army, the Syracuse Nationals picked him up where re played for six seasons. Then on to two seasons with the Detroit Pistons, retiring in 1960. Back then, this first had no way of knowing that 50 years later he'd witness another historic first, a black president.
LLYOD: For years and years and years, we always tell our kids, you could be anything you wanted to be. And you weren't lying to them, but it was kind of sugar coated, but now, that's one less concern we have.
LEMON: Today, Lloyd is a man of few words, enjoying every moment with his wife of more than 40 years. Wisdom is his gift to the young. LLOYD: The ball knows no prejudice. They don't know what kind of hand it's in.
LEMON: Earl Lloyd, an African-American first and an inspiration far beyond basketball.
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LEMON: Thank you, Earl Lloyd. From one hero to another -- a woman who feeds the hungry and rescues the rainforest at the same time. We're going to introduce you to her.
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LEMON: Each year, millions of acres of tropical rainforest just disappear as farmers clear more land to grow more crops. Tonight, "CNN Hero" began a one-woman crusade to rescue the forest and feed the hungry at the same time.
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ANNOUNCER: This is "CNN Heroes."
ERIKA VONMAN, CNN HERO: People throughout Central America were living in extreme poverty. They often don't have enough food. There are days when people will just have one meal if they're lucky.
When I first game to Guatemala, it was incredible seeing where people were cutting down rainforests to plant food. That was devastating. So I decided to go back to school so I could help people produce enough food without destroying the environment.
I came across the Maya nut tree. It provided the staple food for the Maya civilization. For some reason, people have stopped eating this food, which is one of the most nutritious foods you can get. And it's free. You just collect it off the ground. And they don't eat it because they don't know.
I'm Erika Vonman, and I teach people about the lost indigenous Maya nut for food and for rainforest conservation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (speaking in foreign language)
VONMAN: Our workshops are just for women. So they could acquire the skills and knowledge to feed their families and better their lives. It's fun.
We're having an impact on the environment. We're having an economic impact and also motivating reforestation. It's really amazing.
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LEMON: Well, if you know someone who deserves to be a CNN hero, we want you to tell us about them. Go to CNN.com/heroes.
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LEMON: Wow. We went fast tonight. I'm Don Lemon. I'll see you back here tomorrow night, 6:00, 7:00 and 10:00 p.m. Eastern. "ADDICTION: LIFE ON THE EDGE" with Sanjay Gupta begins right now.
