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Final Farewell to Sen. Ted Kennedy; 7 Found Dead in Mobile Home in Georgia; Woman Freed After 18 Years
Aired August 29, 2009 - 01:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon reporting tonight from Washington, D.C.. America said farewell today to the liberal lion of the Senate, Edward M. Kennedy. His burial this evening at Arlington Cemetery just as night fell marks the end of an era in the history of our country and the apparent end of a political dynasty for one of the nation's most prominent families.
Under rainy skies in Boston and an evening sunset here in the nation's capital, family, friends, fellow senators and presidents gathered to say their final farewell. We'll bring you the sights and sounds of this very memorable day throughout tonight's broadcast. And for complete coverage of Senator Kennedy's funeral, the stop over at the Capitol Building in Washington and the burial at Arlington Cemetery on our web site, go to cnn.com for our special selection or special section on the life and death of Senator Ted Kennedy.
Mean time, I want to go to a developing story out of Antioch, California tonight. The bizarre case of a little girl held for nearly two decades gets stranger at every turn. Here's what we know right now.
Jaycee Dugard was freed this week 18 years after she was abducted as a young girl in South Lake Tahoe. During those 18 years of captivity, she had two daughters, allegedly fathered by her captor, Phillip Garrido. Garrido and his wife, Nancy, now face nearly 30 felony charges related to the abduction and rape of Jaycee Dugard.
Nevada officials say Garrido and his wife met while he was in federal prison for an earlier abduction. Now authorities are looking into the possibility that Garrido may be linked to a number of unsolved murders in the area. Well, the living conditions of Jaycee Dugard and her daughters were deplorable by any reasonable standard. Even more frustrating is that neighbors tried to alert authorities years ago to the strange situation at the Garrido residence. But they say they got nowhere.
CNN's Ed Lavandera live in Antioch with the very latest when the search continues at the house this hour. Ed -
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, here at the house in Antioch, California, authorities have returned. We were told that this search and the processing of what essentially is a crime scene here will continue throughout the weekend. Authorities have pulled up a trailer into the driveway. There's another trailer parked in front of the Garrido home where authorities have been coming in and out throughout the day.
It's very difficult to get a vantage point or to get any sense of exactly what they're taking out of the house or what they're bringing in or what exactly they're looking for. But that compound-like area in the very back of this property is kind of fortressed by trees and seems to be a very elaborate area that they're combing through. We've been talking to neighbors who have properties that butt up against where the Garrido's property is to get some vantage point, and it is very difficult to get a sense of what the authorities are doing back there. But it is clear that they are going through every little area of this property.
And also, as you mentioned, the new twist to this is that a nearby community of Pittsburgh, California, their police department has also been here throughout the day. Where we understand they are also looking into Phillip Garrido's possible connection into a string of murders that happened in that town back in the 1990s. So the case seems to grow larger by the day.
LEMON: Yes, as they continue to investigate that there are other reports that are coming out that Jaycee being seen by some business associates of Garrido and she was actually not hidden away for 18 years?
LAVANDERA: Well, you know, when you talk about someone being held captive for 18 years, it kind of leaves the impression that perhaps Jaycee Dugard and her daughters were left captive, perhaps never left that back part of the property here at Garrido's home. But that doesn't appear to be the case. We've talked to several neighbors over the last few days who talked about seeing the girls, you know, essentially hidden in plain sight here, if you will.
We've also spoken with other business associates of Phillip Garrido, had run a printing business. He had been printing business cards for various people around the Antioch community, and we've been told by several people connected to those businesses or who had done business with Garrido who said that Jaycee Dugard was the creative force behind this business.
That they had talked with her and dealt with her on many occasions. Of course, they knew her, not as Jaycee Dugard but as a young girl named Alyssa. But didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary. So no one ever thought twice about this young woman working with Phillip Garrido.
LEMON: And Ed, we also heard from neighbors and we also heard from some of the police officers who spotted this young lady and Mr. Garrido and also her daughters, that there might have been some missed opportunities here to intervene. Talk to us about that.
LAVANDERA: That really has been the stunning question here. Is like how does someone - how is someone held captive for 18 years and it doesn't raise any red flags or how exactly does this happen? The sheriff's department here in Antioch has said that three years ago they received a 911 call from one of the neighbors describing Garrido as suspicious actions going on the property, describing him as a sex addict and that they should come out and look at the situation.
We were told by the sheriff's department here that that officer who came to the scene simply knocked on the door, didn't investigate any further. And in the words of the sheriff here, didn't ask enough questions, wasn't inquisitive enough about what was going on to have pressed this situation and perhaps brought it to an end three years ago.
LEMON: CNN's Ed Lavandera. Ed, thank you. Appreciate your reporting.
So now what for Jaycee Dugard and her daughters? Noted psychologist Jeffrey Gardere join us in just a few minutes to share insights into this highly unusual case. We'll also hear a jailhouse interview.
Meantime, happening right now, out west, hundreds of families forced from their homes, raging wildfires just won't let up. In the east, tropical storm Danny causing headaches and dumping inches of rain and causing some travel delays. Our meteorologist Jacqui Jeras sorts it all out for you.
Plus breaking news tonight. Seven people found dead in a small Georgia town. What and who are behind the murders?
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LEMON: First, some breaking news tonight out of the coastal town of Brunswick, Georgia. Police responding to a 911 call have found seven people dead inside a mobile home. Two other people are still alive, but in critical condition. Police have been tight-lipped about how the victims died. At a news conference, the chief of police would only say that the victims range in age from teens to the very old. And that it was the worst mass killing in recent memory in the town.
Thousands of acres scorched. Hundreds of homes evacuated as wildfires rage in Southern California. A blaze that burned more than 7,000 acres in Los Angeles county caused residents to flee about 900 homes. More than 700 workers tried to quail the blaze as it tore right through the terrain near the foothills of the San Gabriel mountains.
Another 2,200 acres in the San Bernardino National Forest also burned tonight. Our Jacqui Jeras is keeping a close eye on the fires out there. Jacqui, we are hearing that there's going to be a press conference by officials there very soon. We're paying close attention to that.
JACQUI JERAS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, hopefully they are going to have some good news. Because it's been a rough go of it throughout the day today, Don. You know, the weather conditions have been really very difficult. We are going to take into the station fire area where the temperatures have been in the triple digits and the relative humidity or the amount of moisture that's in the air has been down in the single digits in terms of percentage. So this has allowed more than 11 square miles to burn in this area and they are having a very difficult time because the terrain is so rugged and also in this area, you know, nothing's burned here in about 40 to 60 years. So there's a whole lot of vegetation and things that have been dried out, unfortunately, across much of this area.
I want to show you a picture here. This is from the Mt. Wilson Observatory from UCLA. There you can see that smoke that is just kind of starting to linger into some of the valley areas as we speak. Our i-reporters have been getting some incredible photos as well. This picture from Keith Bohanan. And he said he was just a couple of miles away from the fire. And the main thing I want to point out about this picture is take a note of how vertical that smoke plume was. So that was real indicative that the winds have been very calm.
You know, this is not a wind-driven fire. This is drought conditions as well as the heat and the low humidity. Now, we do have red flag warnings which remain in effect across the area. Weather conditions here tomorrow are going to be very similar to what we had yesterday. Excessive heat warnings have been issued across much of the southwest.
Our other top weather story today, Don, the remnants of what was Danny pulling up into the Canadian Maritimes now but a cold front moving through the northeast has caused a lot of travel delays today and that's going to linger at least into the morning hours for tomorrow. Don, I will be back a little bit later. Back to you.
LEMON: Yes, it caused a lot of travel delays last night. I was stuck in that coming from New England here to Washington, D.C.. I didn't get in until past midnight. And a very bumpy flight, quite frightening, Jacqui.
JERAS: Well, I'm glad you made it safe.
LEMON: Yes, I know, and everybody else, too. Thank you so much, Jacqui. We'll see you in a little bit.
JERAS: OK.
LEMON: Let's talk about four years ago. Hurricane Katrina bludgeoned the Gulf Coast, killing more than 1,400 people in New Orleans alone. Today the city paused to remember.
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LEMON: A very somber moment. Ringing bells recalled the moment the first levee broke, letting loose a deadly flood that left most of the city underwater. Mayor Ray Nagin was at today's ceremony thanking city residents for their resilience.
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LEMON: Since his arrest for kidnapping a young girl 18 years ago, Philip Garrido has had a lot to say. You can hear it for yourself just ahead.
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LEMON: Now back to the bizarre kidnapping of Jaycee Dugard, held for 18 years in California. Phillip Garrido was in custody only a short time before he granted a jailhouse interview to a local television reporter. In effect he said, you isn't seen nothing yet.
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VOICE OF PHILLIP GARRIDO, ACCUSED KIDNAPPER OF JAYCEE DUGARD: Wait until you read that document. My life has been straightened out. Wait until you hear the story of what took place at this house. You're going to be absolutely impressed. It was a disgusting thing that took place in the beginning but I turned my life completely around. And in order to understand it, you have to start there.
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LEMON: Dr. Jeff Gardere joins me live now from New York to help sort out Garrido's strange jailhouse interview and possibly what he might have been thinking here. Dr. Gardere is a noted psychologist. He has written several books and is the co-author of "Practical Parenting" and talk show host of "Montel Williams" here. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. I got to ask you this -
DR. JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Pleasure.
LEMON: Held for so many years but yet she had - we are hearing probably had access to telephone, even a computer. Why didn't she try to run or send some sort of signal? Was she brainwashed?
GARDERE: Absolutely, she was brainwashed. She was traumatized. We can't forget that she was kidnapped at the age of 11 years old. This captor, Phillip Garrido, became a god to her. This man traumatized her, raped her, put her through all sorts of psychological abuse and so on. And so I think we're seeing her a learned helplessness, hopelessness, which is part of what we all know as this Stockholm syndrome, where in fact any kind of favor he did for her or where he was less punitive because she was so unstable, because she was so dependent on this person for her life. She saw that as some sort of kindness and then was able to bond with him in a very complex yet conflicted manner.
LEMON: Doctor, even when she had interaction with people, I mean, that's how she was found out, handing out literature. She still didn't give any signal, you know, as to who she was or anything of that nature.
GARDERE: That's right. And we saw this with Elizabeth Smart. We saw a little bit of this with Josef Fritzl's daughter, Elizabeth Fritzl that they become so enraptured in that situation where they are just trying to survive, the brainwashing becomes so deep that it becomes again this learned helplessness, hopelessness where they feel that if they try to get away, they are convinced that their captor may not only try to kill them but kill other members of the family. LEMON: All right. So listen, she is, you know, as a child with children. What - what then goes into rehabilitating her? How does she acclimate into getting back to normal, getting back to society, learning her family?
GARDERE: This is going to be a very tough road ahead for her, and for her daughters. Maybe a little bit easier for the daughters in that they are younger, 15 and 11 years old. But for her being 29 years old, not really being part of society as she should have been, being traumatized in this way, she has to be debriefed, as she is right now, be able to tell a story, be supported by psychologists but most importantly, be supported by her family, and they have to understand that she's going to have conflicted feelings about her abductor and about being back with her biological family.
It is going to be very, very difficult. Therapy for the rest of her life and normalcy will never be something that she will be able to enjoy.
LEMON: And you hit on my next question when you talked about the family as well because the family is also going to have to deal with this but what about the two children. As we understand, this early in the investigation, those two children may not even know that they are her children?
GARDERE: Yes, it is possible that they may not know that they're her children. They may be convinced that Garrido is their father. As a matter of fact, he seems to have a very strong hold even over the oldest daughter, who any time she made any kind of a move to try to walk across a room, she would check with Garrido. They are probably seeing her as an older sister, and we saw the same thing happen with Elizabeth Fritzl. So this is history repeating itself and in this very bizarre manner yet again.
LEMON: Boy, we certainly wish her the very best, her children and as well as the family. Thank you, Dr. Jeff Gardere. We appreciate it.
GARDERE: My pleasure. Thank you.
LEMON: The Kennedy family legacy and the civil rights era are forever linked. John, Bobby and Teddy all playing major roles in the fight for equality. Up next - another civil rights pioneer, Julian Bond, right here in the NEWSROOM.
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LEMON: America says farewell today to Senator Edward Kennedy. His burial tonight at Arlington Cemetery marks the end of an era in American politics. Three of the nation's four living former presidents joined President Barack Obama at the funeral mass. Mr. Obama praised Edward Kennedy for his dedication to principle and his ability to forge friendship across the political spectrum.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We can still hear his voice bellowing through the Senate chamber, face reddened, fist pounding the podium, a veritable force of nature in support of health care or workers' rights or civil rights. And yet, as has been noted, while his causes became deeply personal, his disagreements never did.
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LEMON: In Washington, the Kennedy motorcade stopped in front of the Capitol Building on the Senate side where he served this nation for 47 years. The family took part in a brief ceremony for Kennedy staffers, friends and former colleagues.
From there, they traveled a few miles to Senator Kennedy's final resting place in Arlington National Cemetery. He was buried just after sunset next to his brother Robert and his brother John, the former president.
Examining the impact of Senator Ted Kennedy on the civil rights movement, I spoke with an African-American couple earlier today about his lasting legacy.
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REGGIE STEPHNEY: I think the whole Kennedy family did try to do stuff for civil rights, health care, things like that, which is very prominent, very close to African-American's heart. So I think he did all he could for African-Americans. So I think he stood for that.
SANDRA STEPHNEY: I do, too. I mean, you can tell from JFK to his other brother, Bobby, and even to Ted, you know, especially when he really came out for President Obama, that was very, very meaningful. And he was a strong supporter of President Obama. So, you know, I think they did a lot for the African-American community.
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LEMON: I'm joined now by NAACP chairman Julian Bond. He's actually on his phone because he wants to play a message from Senator Ted Kennedy that he received. And he was part of the struggle in the 1960s with him. This is a voicemail, right? Let me see, I can get it on for you. Is that it?
JULIAN BOND, NAACP CHAIRMAN: That was it.
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TED KENNEDY, DECEASED: Julian, this is Ted Kennedy and I just wanted to congratulate you on the 100th anniversary of the NAACP and to tell you how much I've admired your work over the years.
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LEMON: That's really nice for him to do that. He said 100th anniversary and he admired your work. You guys were good friends for a long, long time.
BOND: Not close friends. We weren't buddies. We didn't play golf together or sail together but I knew him for a long, long time. He was always just a wonderful, wonderful person.
LEMON: What did today mean to you when you watched the ceremony?
BOND: Sadness. You can't help but be sad. I'm one of these people who cries easily. And I have been sobbing for a couple of days over this. This is just terrible, terrible news for his family but for the country, too. We've lost a guy who is irreplaceable. There will not be another like him.
LEMON: When you look back at the country, especially the civil rights movement, we may not be where we are in the country as far as civil rights goes, if it were not for the Kennedy brothers, especially. And especially Ted because he was the one that actually got the legislation and survived long enough to see it change.
BOND: That's right. John Kennedy was a reluctant warrior in the civil rights movement, pushed into it by circumstances and I think by some feelings of his own. Robert Kennedy much more vigorous, much more aggressive. But in such a sort time. Teddy Kennedy, in for the long run, in for the fight. Fight, wins a little bit, goes on, goes on. Like I say, there won't be another one like him.
LEMON: What are you going to remember, because I know that you guys said -- you said you talked to each other? You weren't very close friends. You knew each other for a long time. But is there anything special -- everyone had their little moment that they remember.
BOND: Years and years ago, I went to speak in Hyannis to the NAACP. This president took me out to the compound where they are and I'm walking around looking at things and here comes Teddy with his mother and he says, "Mother, this is Julian Bond." And she said, "Good to meet you." And I thought, gee, isn't this great? This is one of the most powerful -- not as much as he got to be later, one of the most powerful men in the United States is out here walking with his mother. And, you know, it was just great.
LEMON: One of the interesting things today as I was out there in the Capitol walking around the streets interviewing people, talking to people, and just, you know, listening to them, it didn't matter, Republican, Democrat, it did not matter. They said that this man was an icon, especially his family. And they just wanted to be there today to pay tribute to him because of what he stood for.
BOND: I don't know. I thought about the enormous contrast between the people we saw on the sidewalk as the casket went from Hyannis to Boston, the people on the sidewalk here in Washington watching the casket come to the capital and go out to Arlington and these awful, awful town halls and the nutty people who occupied them. The contrast is just so remarkable. Here people are quiet, reverent, paying their respects and there are others who can say.
LEMON: You will save that message, I'm sure, for a long time.
BOND: I will.
LEMON: Thank you very much for joining us here. BOND: No, thank you very much. My pleasure.
LEMON: And we're back in a moment here on CNN with more on Ted Kennedy's funeral and the rest of the news.
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LEMON: Thousands of acres have been scorched and hundreds of homes evacuated as wildfires rage in southern California. The wildfire known as the Station has nearly quadrupled in size from Friday, from 5,500 to 20,000 acres. Three people have been injured, a small number of homes burned and power knocked down to dozens more. A news conference by California officials happening right now, and we're going to monitor it for you and we're watching the developments. Let's listen in as a matter of fact to that press conference happening right now.
MIKE DEITRICH, U.S. FOREST SERVICE: Off of Highway 2, they were medevaced and transported to local hospitals. Also, we had numerous aircraft today, fixed wing and helicopters, including the use of the DC-10. The fire now, the potential threat for tonight and the next day is continuing to move along the foothill area of La Pineda, Crescenta and towards Glendale. We are a unified command with Glendale Fire as well.
We have a new threat up in the north up over in the Acton area. The fire burned up over the divide, as it's called. As you can see, the fire visibly right now from Acton. Our plan is to move several hundred firefighters over into that area tonight to deal with that potential threat. We're working very closely with the sheriff's department and L.A. County fire. Mt. Wilson communications site is still activity threatened, and we don't know what will happen tomorrow, but that is still very much a very real threat to us and it's in our priorities.
Our plans to try to get out ahead of the fire, to protect homes, keep the public safe. The fire has several fronts, and I want to re- emphasize that this is a very treacherous situation that we're in right now, and we're asking members of the public and everyone else for their cooperation. If we determine that there's a need for an evacuation, it's real.
And last, I want to say that in my experience, this is some of the best interagency cooperation and coordination between the firefighting agencies, law enforcement, and other emergency support personnel. So we're doing everything that we can to get a handle on this and we'll continue to do that into the future. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now we're going to bring up chief deputy John Tripp from the Los Angeles County Fire Department.
JOHN TRIPP, L.A. COUNTY FIRE DEPT: Good evening. Today, Los Angeles County Fire Department focused assisting incident management team five with doing the structural protection, mainly along the foothill communities. Again Altadena, La Pineda, Crescenta. As Chief Deitrich had said, there were three residences destroyed. Those were not in those communities. Those were residences or structures that were located up deep within the Angeles National Forest.
As the fire continued to get dynamic, Los Angeles County Fire had already supplied 60 fire engines that were assigned to the incident, and later on today, we had an additional order for 150 more fire engines. Of those engines, we've used from all the communities within Los Angeles County. We've also gone to our adjoining county and now we're getting support from counties south of Los Angeles, the greater Los Angeles area, and up north.
LEMON: You're listening to a press conference happening in Los Angeles County. Officials there really working around the clock to try to get these horrible wildfires under control. Here's the latest that they're saying, this Station fire that they're calling it has grown to some 20,000 acres and still only 5 percent contained, 10,000 residences threatened.
I want to go now to our Jacqui Jeras, our meteorologist who can talk to us about the conditions that's happening out in Los Angeles County. Man, this is a huge fire and still hardly under control, Jacqui.
JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, I just did the latest calculations, about 20,000 acres equals about 30 square miles. So just to kind of put into perspective, almost the distance between where the fire is and Los Angeles is. So imagine that whole area burned out. Some really scary stuff.
Here you can see some of the aerials, the terrain has been one of the most difficult things. It's really, really steep in the Angeles Forest and so they can't get in there. They one good thing is that the winds have been really, really calm, and so they've been able to get up into the air with big tankers as well as the choppers putting the fire retardants on here and making a little progress there.
The flames have been really, really incredible too by the way, and we're getting reports of the flame height or the flame length of 80 feet, so this is an incredibly intense fire that continues to burn. The temperatures today have been well into the triple digits, about 102 degrees is what we've been estimating near the fire area. We'll put some of these little true viewers on here. There you can see Glendale near the fire area, about 80 degrees there still at this hour, about 84 in Los Angeles and there you can see Pomona estimating about 88 degrees.
So that's still very, very warm. One of the other big concerns that we have in addition to this too by the way is the air quality. Air quality alerts have been issued for the Los Angeles area, especially as we get into the nighttime hours, the winds calm down just a little bit more. And what happens is that the air kind of settles into some of the valley areas. And so it just kind of sits there and it's kind of stagnant, especially into the morning hours. And so you have got a lot of particulates into the air. So you really want to heed the caution and stay inside if you can.
And yeah, there you can see that Valley area and this whole area here, that's all populated. There's houses all over the place in here, and all of these little fire signatures that you see, those are heat signatures being detected by satellite.
So it gives you an idea just how widespread this whole thing is. We'll talk a little bit more about temperatures across parts of the southwest, because this isn't just a California thing. Fire danger is going to stay high across parts of the Great Basin even tomorrow too, because we have a little disturbance in the upper levels of the atmosphere that's going to be coming on in.
There you can see the extreme heat warnings in place, this includes areas like Phoenix and Las Vegas, and we've got extreme opposite weather taking place across parts of the Northeastern Corridor. Really heavy rainfall across New England throughout the day today. This is what was Danny, and that's pushing into the Canadian Maritimes now.
But there's a cold front which is pushing in here too and so there you can see we've had showers and thunder showers in this area throughout the day today. So there have been a lot of travel delays.
And by the way, maybe 20 miles away during the funeral services from Arlington today, there was a thunderstorm up to the north. We were watching that one real closely. We do expect to see more thunderstorms in the morning with more travel delays, Don, but improving conditions across the Northeast later in the day.
LEMON: All right, Jacqui, thank you very much.
Since his arrest for kidnapping a young girl 18 years ago, Phillip Garrido has had a lot to say, and from jail. You're going to hear, just ahead.
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LEMON: Want to update you now on a developing story. It is out of Antioch, California and the bizarre case of Jaycee Dugard gets stranger at every turn. I want to tell you what we know right now. Dugard was freed just this week, 18 years after she was abducted as a young girl in South Lake Tahoe. Now during those 18 years of captivity, she had two daughters allegedly fathered by her captor Phillip Garrido. Garrido and his wife Nancy now face nearly 30 felony charges related to the abduction and rape of Jaycee Dugard.
Nevada officials say Garrido and his wife met while he was in federal prison for an earlier abduction. Now authorities are looking into the possibility that Garrido may have been linked to a number of unsolved murders in the area. Neighbors tried to alert authorities years ago to the strange situation at the Garrido residence but they got not nowhere. CNN's Ed Lavandera live in Antioch with the very latest now. Ed, what can you tell us?
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Don. Well reportedly Jaycee Dugard, when she first saw her mom, threw her arms up in the air and said hi, mom, I have babies. Those were the first words she had said to her mother. Meanwhile, here at the home where she was held captive for 18 years, investigators continue to do their work.
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LAVANDERA (voice-over): A peek into Phillip Garrido's backyard, a tent and a small compound hidden in the trees. Authorities say Jaycee Dugard was held captive here for 18 years. Mike Rogers owns a house that sits up against Garrido's backyard.
He says, in the last three years, he often heard men partying in the backyard, where Dugard and her two daughters were held captive.
MIKE ROGERS, NEIGHBOR: They would be partying next door, be drinking and carrying on. And there would be a bunch of guys back there. They always had a bonfire going on. And they'd be high-fiving each other, just going crazy back there. It was crazy.
LAVANDERA: He never saw the young girls. But now he's disgusted to think about what might have been happening. Roger says he's told investigators about what he saw, but still hasn't been formally interviewed.
Meanwhile, investigators continue searching inside Garrido's property, while Garrido and his wife, Nancy, remain locked up, facing almost 30 felony charges, including kidnapping and rape. Both have pleaded not guilty to the crimes.
Police say they are also looking into whether Garrido was connected to a series of murders in 1990. The mother of one of those victims says she has been told by police that they're looking into whether Garrido is the killer.
MINNIE NORELL, MURDER VICTIM'S MOTHER: I hope that it's true. I hope that it's true, and I -- there's three other gals that were murdered at the same time as my daughter. And I hope that it was him that did all of them. They'll put him away for life.
LAVANDERA: From what we've been able to learn, it doesn't appear Garrido kept Dugard and the young daughters hidden all the time. We've spoken with neighbors and several of Garrido's business associates who say they often saw the young women.
Garrido operated a printing company, making business cards. Some of his customers say Jaycee was the creative force behind the business. Neighbors described Phillip Garrido as creepy, someone who had become a religious zealot, yet loved music, often singing in his front yard.
But those neighbors, many who refused to speak with us on camera, say Nancy Garrido acted like a brainwashed wife who rarely spoke to anyone.
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LAVANDERA: And Don, here late this afternoon at the crime scene, investigators have expanded, appears to have expanded the crime scene to take in the neighboring house just to the side where the Garridos lived. We're not exactly sure what that means at this point. Authorities have been tight lipped and haven't answered any questions throughout the day. Don? LEMON: Certainly a bizarre story and still unfolding. Ed Lavandera, we appreciate it, thank you very much.
You know, the break in this case came Wednesday on the campus of UC Berkeley. A university policewoman became suspicious of Garrido and of the behavior of the two young girls with him. CNN's Anderson Cooper spoke to her about the fateful encounter.
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ALLISON JACOBS, U.C. BERKELEY POLICE DEPARTMENT: Well, the -- the youngest girl was across from me. And she was very intently staring at me and smiling in a very eerie way.
The older daughter was looking at Mr. Garrido, and not looking at us, not making eye contact with us. And her eyes were darting around at the ceiling and would give really quick, clipped one-word answers and would glance at us and back up at him.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: And Lisa, it's got to be frustrating, because clearly you know something is not right, but you don't really have enough to, you know, detain this guy, right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Exactly. Monday when he first came in, I knew something wasn't right. And once we got the preliminary information on his background, we were just praying that our worst suspicions weren't confirmed.
COOPER: And Allie, so they finally -- they leave the meeting, is it -- was it a gut intuition or a mother's intuition? I mean, was it a police intuition or a mom's intuition?
JACOBS: It was a little bit of both. My police intuition was kicking in, but I would say it's more of a mother's intuition. I was worried for these little girls. I knew something wasn't right. I could kind of see it in their eyes, although I didn't really know what it was. And just being a protective mom that I am, my -- my reaction was to try and do what I could do to help them.
COOPER: And, you know what? Again, what's so great about what you did, what both of you did is that, you know, a lot of people would have left with that and said, "Oh, that was weird. A weird guy," kind of written it off. You took the next step. You didn't have to do this. You took the next step. You called up the parole officer for this guy, right?
JACOBS: That's right.
COOPER: And he was stunned that -- that he had two kids. I mean, he didn't even know that there were children in this guy's life, right?
JACOBS: Yes, he mentioned that he came in, and he was being very animated and so forth and that he brought his two daughters in. And he stopped me dead in my tracks. And he said, "He doesn't have daughters." And that's when my heart kind of sunk down into my stomach. And I said, "Well, he introduced them as his daughters. They had his blue eyes. They were calling him 'Dad.' They even mentioned an older sister at home. So I had no reason to believe that they were anything but his daughters."
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LEMON: We'll continue to update you on that story as it develops. And there is some new information tonight on the investigation into the death of Michael Jackson. Also, it is a birthday bash like no other. Michael Jackson is helped by a film maker to celebrate his birthday.
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LEMON: The Los Angeles County coroner says Michael Jackson's death was a homicide caused by a cocktail of prescription drugs. The coroner's report concludes the King of Pop died from acute propofol intoxication, but other drugs were in his system. Jackson's personal physician Dr. Conrad Murray has told investigators he gave him the drugs to help him sleep.
Today would have been Michael Jackson's 51st birthday. Can you believe that? Michael Jackson, 51. And thousands of fans enjoyed a five-hour street celebration in honor of the King of Pop. Film maker Spike Lee organized a Brooklyn style block party. Lee directed two music videos from Jackson in 1996.
Joining me now from Chicago, journalist, former journalist and media consultant Bryan Monroe, who is the last person to interview Michael Jackson. Always good to see you, Bryan.
BRYAN MONROE, MEDIA CONSULTANT: Good to see you, Don.
LEMON: Can you talk a little bit about the investigation? I know that you haven't been digging into the investigation as much as our investigative reporters here but you know a lot about it. When you hear about the acute propofol and all of that, it's kind of sad when you think that, you know, Michael Jackson's life would come to an end this way and what his family must be dealing with as this all unfolds.
MONROE: You know, it is indeed sad. As the investigation continues and the coroner's report, we saw the announcement where the coroner has declared this a homicide, which means that Michael Jackson died at the hands of another person. We don't know whether it was on purpose or by accident, but someone else had some responsibility in his death. And that is -- if you stop and pause and think about that, that in and of itself is amazing to see this great talent who lost his life early in life, but also that he could have had some other people working either indirectly or directly as part of a process that led to his death.
LEMON: Bryan, we were both out there at the same time covering the death of Michael Jackson, out there for all those two, three weeks as this was all unfolding. Early on, the Jackson family, every single one of them said there is something not right about this, there's something they felt was suspicious, they wanted this doctor looked into. It appears that much of their concerns were legitimate at this point.
MONROE: You know, you're right. Joseph said something. LaToya early on says she believed that someone, that Michael in fact was murdered. Now we don't know if it was murder or some type of involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide.
But I started to hear early on in that process from people close to the family as well as those who were close to Michael that this just wasn't right, it didn't smell right. In fact, I wrote a piece for the "Huffington Post" that looked into that.
Now clearly Michael played a large role in his life and his passing if indeed he was out there looking for ways to help himself calm down and go to sleep at night. But even if that was true, if other doctors or other people around him helped in that process, that's serious business.
LEMON: When you -- every day we get the ratings when it comes to music and all of that. Michael Jackson still selling album after album, CD after CD. I think it's been like over $100 to $200 million they've gotten so far from this and it's still not over yet. And the family and the attorneys, the executors still in court battling it out.
MONROE: You're right, they're still fighting it out. If you look at his sales since his death has been through the roof. He's the second highest selling artist of the year, and we're not even through the year yet. His albums and music were nine out of the top ten songs on i-Tunes were Michael Jackson songs over the last two months. He's outselling -- his album "Number Ones" which came out in 2003 is back on top of the charts again. He's generating enough revenue through music sales, as well as the sales that will be associated with a documentary coming out that Sony bought the rights to for $60 million, he may have some of his debts paid off by the time this year's over.
LEMON: Boy, and on his 51st birthday, that is a gift. You can say the gift that keeps on giving to his family and the executors and anyone who has a stake in this.
MONROE: You know, it's sad because you've got to remember it was his music. And he was an amazing talent. And even as we mourn the death of Teddy Kennedy and DJ AM today, we have to remember Michael was an amazing talent despite anything else going on. And that's what we should remember him for.
LEMON: Bryan Monroe, bringing it full circle for us. Thank you, Bryan.
MONROE: Thank you, Don.
LEMON: What do you do when you can't balance a budget? Well, hold a garage sale, of course. At least that's one state did to help get itself out of the red.
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LEMON: He's one of the few remaing late-term abortion doctors in the country. His clinic was the scene of a face-off. Anti-abortion protestors and supporters of abortion rights confronted each other outside the facility. Carhart was a friend of Dr. George Tiller, the doctor who was shot and killed at his Kansas church on May 31st.
Want some good stuff for cheap? California is clearing out the clutter and raising some much-needed cash with a yard sale. How else? No tacky signs here, but there were lines out the door at this warehouse. Shoppers picked up surplus state cars, extra uniforms, chairs, you name it, they got rid of it. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger even got in on the action. Anything to balance the budget. The sale just ended but California is now more than $1 million closer to getting out of the red.
It's been an extraordinary day for America. Straight ahead, more on the nation's day-long farewell to Senator Ted Kennedy, including the moving remarks by his son, Teddy Jr.
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LEMON: From Boston to Washington, it's been a memorable day in American politics and American history. Senator Ted Kennedy was buried tonight at Arlington National Cemetery, laid to rest just a few feet from his brothers, Robert and John.
It began in Boston with a funeral mass attended by President Obama and three former U.S. presidents. The president delivered a eulogy and Ted Kennedy, Jr. was among the speakers.
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TED KENNEDY, JR, TED KENNEDY'S SON: When I was 12 years old I was diagnosed with bone cancer and after a lost my leg there was a heavy snowfall outside of Washington, D.C. My father went to the garage to get the old Flexible Flyer and asked me if I wanted to go sledding down the driveway. And I was trying to get used to my new artificial leg and the hill was covered with ice and snow and it wasn't easy for me to walk. And the hill was very slick, and as I struggled to walk, I slipped and I fell on the ice, and I started to cry. And I said, I can't do this. I said, I'll never be able to climb up that hill.
And he lifted me up in his strong, gentle arms and said something I will never forget. he said, I know you can do it. There is nothing that you can't do. We're going to climb that hill together, even if it takes us all day. Sure enough, he held me around my waist, and we slowly made it to the top.
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LEMON: People from all walks of life are also remembering Ted Kennedy and his decades of service to this country. I talked with some earlier today right here in the nation's capital.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is history in the making. Ted Kennedy was an icon and we want to be here to see it. And we're also from Dallas-Ft. Worth. We were there about the time that JFK was shot, and so we want to be here when his brother goes by.
UNIDNETIFIED MALE: I'm from Puerto Rico. He has done a lot for Puerto Rico and for Hispanics.
LEMON: And that's why you're going to watch?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah. My father admired him. So I think it would be good to tell him I was here.
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LEMON: It has been a very memorable day here in Washington -- really, all over the country. Everyone has been watching this coverage and watching Ted Kennedy be laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery, where he will lay next to his brothers, and the whole world again has been watching this.
Very sad day for the country, but we have the memories and all the legislation, the civil rights legislation that he left behind.
Again, we leave you with a final look at this memorable day, including the powerful images from Arlington Cemetery after sunset.
I'll see you back here Sunday night. Thanks for watching.
