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Relentless Southern California Wildfire; Bone Found Near Garrido Home; Garrido's Victim Shares Story
Aired September 01, 2009 - 10:59 ET
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TONY HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, everyone. It is Tuesday, the first day of September. And here are the faces of the stories behind the headlines today.
Katherine Hall, kidnapped and raped by Phillip Garrido long before he met Jaycee Dugard, she tells her incredible story to CNN's Larry King.
Ben Bernanke, the world's most powerful banker.
And high-profile I.D. theft victim. Today, a break in the case.
Robert Green helping New Orleans' Lower Ninth Ward get back on its feet four years after Hurricane Katrina.
Good morning, everyone.
I'm Tony Harris. And you are in the CNN NEWSROOM.
This thing is a beast. A relentless wildfire in southern California could take weeks to contain. That is the word today from firefighters trying to beat back the flames just 15 miles north of downtown Los Angeles. Ten thousand homes are under evacuation orders.
CNN's Reynolds Wolf is live now from Tujunga, California, with the latest on what officials are calling a very angry fire -- Reynolds.
REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Indeed, Tony. We're talking 120,000 acres and more climbing, and more and more acres getting eaten by this tremendous fire as the seconds pass. We're talking about a containment that is five percent. They're hoping to get a better handle on it later on today.
And you see the scene behind me of this house that was just ravaged by the flames, destroyed, possibly, in seconds. The house a total loss, no question about it. Just a nightmare, one of 53 homes that have been destroyed by this fire. And no question there are many more homes that are in harm's way.
A lot of evacuations. And the last thing that firefighters want to do is see this scene play out, but unfortunately that may be the case.
Got a couple of things that are working against the firefighters. First and foremost, I want you to take a look over here at these hills, Tony.
We often show our viewers across America the fires you have in parts of, say, Oklahoma, or back into Texas, the classic prairie fires. Those are certainly tough to deal with. But when you have hills, mountains like you have up here in the San Gabriels, that's almost an impossible task, where the only way you can really fight some of those is with aircraft.
And speaking of aircraft, not just the helicopters, but they've been using a DC-10 yesterday, especially a configured one. They actually added another aircraft to the arsenal, and that would be a new, specially-configured 747 that dropped its payload across the San Gabriels with fire retardant, trying to beat back the flames.
You know, it's a battle that's being fought with 25,000 firefighters, doing what they can to contain this massive fire. What they try to do is they try to create almost a box around the area that is burning, trying to contain it right into those walls.
But when you have elements that are working against you, like, say, winds that can pick up -- that haven't been strong with this one -- we haven't had Santa Ana winds with this particular fire -- heat that has been very intense, temperatures into the 60s along the coast. But back here in the valleys, into the 90s, even into the triple digits by late afternoon.
I'll tell you, as we look along this ridge you can see everything is scorched. Very little vegetation. But you will see in the foreground some stem, some trees here and there. This is stuff that's been building up over the past four decades, perfect fodder for this fire to spread. And the thick clouds certainly a tremendous mess.
You know, I'll tell you, though, to have fires like this, in this part of the world, it happens, Tony, climatologically. I mean, part of the climate you have here, very similar to what you'll find in Greece or, say, in Italy. It's part of the climate. That's the perspective here. But in terms of the meteorological aspects, we're going to switch gears and hand it over to my friend Jacqui Jeras to give us an idea of what these guys can battle, what they can expect today, if they're going to get some help from Mother Nature, is it going to be more of a pain.
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HARRIS: Investigators now analyzing a bone fragment to determine if it's human and if it connects sex offender and kidnapping suspect Phillip Garrido to other missing girls. The bone fragment found next to Garrido's yard, where he allegedly helped Jaycee Dugard captive for 18 years.
Our Kara Finnstrom is in front of that yard in Antioch, California.
Kara, let's do this -- let's talk about two aspects of this investigation. First, the bone fragment found, my understanding is, on a property that Garrido was actually taking care of. Is that correct?
KARA FINNSTROM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right. I mean, a current neighbor is Damon Robinson (ph). He's someone who's been speaking with CNN, who has had suspicions about Garrido, whose girlfriend actually is the one that made that 911 call about the children in the backyard. But before he moved there -- and this is the property right next door here -- that was a vacant property. And Garrido was caretaker for a while.
That's why they searched it. He had complete access to it. They found this bone fragment.
Tony, at this point, it's just not clear whether this is an animal or human bone fragment. They have sent it off for testing and they're waiting for those results.
HARRIS: Do we have any idea how long it will actually take to get some results back? Is that a day, maybe two days?
FINNSTROM: You know, I haven't heard that yet, Tony.
HARRIS: OK. All right.
And secondly, talk to us about the investigation into Garrido's possible connection to other unsolved abduction cases.
FINNSTROM: Well, they're looking into a number of unsolved cases. One of them involves a girl that was kidnapped back in the 1980s from an area that's about 20, 25 miles away from here called Hayward. Her name is Michaela Garecht, and she disappeared, vanished, has not been seen since.
We spoke with her mother. And here's a little about what her mother had to say about some of the similarities between the disappearance of Jaycee Dugard and the disappearance of her daughter.
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SHARON MURCH, MICHAELA GARECHT'S MOTHER: There have been a lot of similarities between the cases over the years. The method of kidnapping was the same. They were both dragged into cars. The description of the cars was very similar.
The girls look very much like each other. There have been points in the past where the investigations have crossed with the same suspect. So -- and Jaycee was found very close to home here. So, it was just my hope that Michaela would be there with her.
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FINNSTROM: And police are also looking into another disappearance, this one of a 13-year-old girl who disappeared also about 20 miles away from here.
Tony, they have come under a lot of criticism for possibly missing some clues that could have brought them to Dugard earlier. So, they're going to follow up on all of these leads. Not clear yet. You know, very early in the investigation of these other cases, whether that will really go anywhere.
HARRIS: OK. Kara Finnstrom for us in Antioch, California.
Kara, good to see you. Thank you.
And we are just hearing from an FBI special agent who has been on the case to find Jaycee Dugard from -- actually from the very beginning, and was there for the family reunion. He describes it as emotional and joyous.
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CHRIS CAMPION, FBI SPECIAL AGENT: When I called her, she was beside herself with joy. And I was present when she was reunited with Jaycee yesterday morning. It was a very emotional scene. Both of them were just overjoyed to be with each other again.
And there's going to be a period of adjustment, no doubt. But they are doing very well at this point, and the two daughters are probably as happy as Jaycee is to be part of this family as well.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HARRIS: Boy.
More now on Phillip Garrido.
He was paroled from prison in 1988 after serving just over 10 years of a 50-year sentence for kidnapping and raping Katherine Hall. She tells our Larry King she trembled for hours when she heard Garrido had been arrested.
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LARRY KING, HOST, "LARRY KING LIVE": How did you find out that the man who went to prison for this kidnapping raped you? How did you put the two together?
KATHERINE HALL, VICTIM OF PHILLIP GARRIDO: I actually heard it on CNN. I was coming downstairs to feed my dog and it was on the television. And I happened to walk in front of the television and heard the name.
KING: All you needed was the name?
HALL: All I needed was the name.
KING: What went through you?
HALL: I screamed. I started screaming, "Oh my God! Oh my God! It's him. He's the one who kidnapped me."
KING: Did you live in fear of him all these years?
HALL: Oh, absolutely.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
HARRIS: And we will have more of Hall's incredible accounts throughout the hour, including her horrific memory of the day Phillip Garrido raped her. That will blow you away. That's next in the NEWSROOM.
But first, here's a look at the latest from Wall Street, the Big Board, New York Stock Exchange.
The Dow, at last check, was down 44. Wow. I've got to tell you, the Dow started off the day in positive territory, but the bottom seemingly is falling out of the trading day so far.
Early, still. The Dow down 72 points.
We are following these numbers throughout the day for you with Stephanie Elam, in for Susan Lisovicz.
We're back in a moment.
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HARRIS: California investigators are trying to find out if Phillip Garrido is linked to the disappearance of two other young girls. He faces 29 counts connected to the kidnapping, rape and imprisonment of Jaycee Dugard. An earlier victim, Katherine Hall, told our Larry King about the day Garrido attacked her.
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KING: All right. Take us back.
How old were you when he grabbed you?
HALL: Twenty-five.
KING: Where were you? What happened?
HALL: I was on my way to my boyfriend's house with dinner in my car. He asked me to stop at a grocery store and pick up some...
KING: Where was this?
HALL: In South Lake Tahoe. And he asked me to stop at a grocery store and pick up some coffee. And so I did.
KING: Your boyfriend?
HALL: Uh-huh. And I did. And as I came out of the grocery store and got in my car, Phillip knocked on my window and said, you know, I can't seem to get my car to start. It's cold.
Do you think you could give me a ride?
You know, which way are you going?
And, of course, he was going to go anyway -- any way which way I was going. And so I did.
KING: Why did you let him in the car?
HALL: I don't know. It was the worst decision I've ever made, I think. It truly was.
KING: What happened when he got in?
HALL: When he got in, I filled his hands with a lot of food that I was -- that I had in the front seat anyway. I tried to engage him in...
KING: He was holding your food?
HALL: He was. I tried to engage him in small conversation on the road -- on the trip. I tried to stay on the main street.
And when I got ready to turn, he said, "Well, where I'm staying is right up the road here." And it was, again, on another main street that I turned. So I took him a little further up.
And then he said well, it's just around this corner. And so, I said, "Well, OK." And I just turned around the corner and pulled over and he slammed my head into the steering wheel and pulled out handcuffs.
He took my keys out, threw them on the floor and pulled out handcuffs and handcuffed me and -- and said, "I just want a piece of ass. If you're -- if you be good, you won't get hurt."
KING: What did he do with the food?
HALL: He put it on the floor, I guess. I don't know.
KING: All right.
HALL: I was just...
KING: All right. Now, you're in a car and you're handcuffed.
HALL: Yes.
KING: How does this happen?
How was he able to consummate this?
HALL: Well, you mean, how was he able to handcuff me?
KING: Yes...
HALL: He...
KING: No, rape you. HALL: Oh, well, he took me to a mini warehouse.
KING: Oh, he took you out of there.
HALL: Yes. He -- he transferred me. After he handcuffed me, he transferred me into the passenger seat. He pulled a leather strap out of his hair and he tied my head to my knees.
KING: Nobody around?
HALL: And my hands were handcuffed behind my back. He threw a coat over my head, so I was below visibility in the car. And he took me to a warehouse arena -- a mini warehouse in Reno (ph), in a very desolate area.
KING: Were you fearing for your life?
HALL: I was. I thought I was dead.
KING: And then he, what, raped you repeatedly?
HALL: Uh-huh. After he got me...
KING: How many hours were you his captive?
HALL: Almost eight hours, I think.
KING: Did he have a knife or threaten you with any weapons?
HALL: No, I didn't -- I never saw any weapon. I don't -- you know, most of the actual rape has just been totally blocked out of my head.
KING: Was it on the floor, on a bed?
HALL: He had -- he had -- he took me to a mini warehouse. It was probably 6 by 12 -- you know, about the size of a very small one car garage. And that mini warehouse, the first three feet -- as you lifted the garage like door to it, the first three feet was stacked with boxes, like it was in storage, but that were half opened with china and stuff coming out.
And right behind them was a wall of carpet hanging from the ceiling. And with an opening at one end -- a small opening at one end. And carpeting is heavy. You know, rugs -- big rugs are heavy. And about a foot behind that was another wall of carpet with the opening at the other end and then another one behind that. It was like a maze.
And in the back part of the mini warehouse where he had me, he had -- he had it set up to keep someone for a while. He had a mattress...
KING: You're a pretty good observer, though. You remember all this...
HALL: Well, I only saw this on the way up. And then I -- because I had to go back in and get dressed. So I went in and out.
KING: You two are married seven years, right?
JIM HALL, KATIE HALL'S HUSBAND: Right.
KING: When you -- when he -- when she -- when you met her, Jim, did she tell you all about this?
J. HALL: Yes.
KING: So, you knew this all along?
J. HALL: I have, yes.
KING: That she had been -- how did that make you feel?
J. HALL: Oh...
KING: Did it affect you at all?
J. HALL: I don't know if -- you know, it was just something where you know what she went through and there's nothing you can do except support, be there for her.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HARRIS: Katherine Hall tells us how she got away from Garrido and why she has lived in fear for so many years. That is next in the NEWSROOM.
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HARRIS: Let's get to some of our top stories right now.
Pakistan's military says its forces have killed more than 35 insurgents in battles near the Khyber Pass. The pass is crucial in the battle against the Taliban because it's the main route to get supplies to NATO troops in Afghanistan. Pakistan says its forces also destroyed four militant bases. And in the Swat Valley, the army says 105 Taliban fighters have surrendered to the military.
Twenty world leaders are in Poland, along with this 95-year-old veteran who you will see -- there he is, taking part of in a wreath laying to commemorate the start of World War II. It began 70 years ago today, when Germany attacked Poland. This veteran and Holocaust survivor recalls how ill prepared his Polish regiment was.
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MARIAN WOJCIECHOWKSI, WORLD WAR II VETERAN: We didn't have enough ammunition. We didn't have enough weapons. We didn't have -- we were not prepared at all.
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HARRIS: Crews in southern California say a raging wildfire near Los Angeles has now burned almost 122,000 acres. They are hoping slightly cooler temperatures today will help slow down the fast-moving fire. Ten thousand home are under evacuation orders. Governor Schwarzenegger is expected to update the situation next hour.
More now on the incredible firsthand account of rape victim Katherine Callaway Hall. She was kidnapped and sexually assaulted by Phillip Garrido back in 1976.
She tells our Larry King how she got away.
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KING: We're back with Katherine Callaway Hall and her husband Jim.
How long were you in his capture?
K. HALL: Just about eight hours.
KING: Continuously raped all that time?
K. HALL: Yes.
KING: Hurt -- did he hit you?
K. HALL: He did not, but he -- you know, like I said, I've pretty much blocked out the rape part. And I tend to think he didn't hurt me, but I had bruises and scratches all over me. They took pictures at the hospital.
KING: How...
K. HALL: I don't remember it, though.
KING: How did you get out?
K. HALL: A policeman happened to save me.
KING: How?
K. HALL: He came -- it was his beat. The mini warehouse area was his beat, and he happened to notice -- Phillip had lost the key to the mini warehouse in my car. And he had jimmied the lock with my crowbar, and he had locked it from the inside.
And so, the policeman came around with a flashlight, shining his light on each individual lock, and saw that one was picked and he investigated. He banged on the door.
KING: And what did -- did Phillip answer the door?
K. HALL: Phillip went out to answer the door and he came back in and he said, "It's the heat. Am I going to have to tie you up or are you going to be good?"
And I said, "No, I've been good. I've been good. Don't tie me up."
And so he went back out with the receipt. And I sat there for a minute and I thought, if there's a policeman out there, I have to try. I have to.
KING: What did you do?
K. HALL: I went crashing through, over -- under the rugs, over the boxes, right out into the parking area where the policeman was, completely naked.
KING: Whoa. And the cop immediately, what?
K. HALL: He looked at me like I was crazy. And Phillip looked at me like I was crazy. And I said, "Help me. Help me, please."
And Phillip said -- he said, "What's going on?" And Phillip said, "This is just my girlfriend. We're just in there partying, you know, it's no big deal."
And I said, "No, I'm not. I'm not." You know, "Keep him away from me."
And finally, the policeman said, "Go back in and get dressed," because it was November in Reno. I was freezing. There was snow on the ground, you know?
KING: You had no clothes on?
K. HALL: I had no clothes on.
So, he let me go back in and get dressed. And as I was putting on my jeans, I had one shoe, one sock on and jeans on. That was it. Phillip came back through. And the policeman let him come back through, out of his sight.
KING: Why?
K. HALL: I thought, oh, my God, he's going to take me hostage. And he came back to beg me not to turn him in. He said, "Please, please, don't turn me in." And I stayed out of his reach. I said, "OK, OK, I won't," and ran back out half naked now.
KING: And turned him in.
K. HALL: Yes, and turned him in.
KING: Now, he went to jail for that, right?
K. HALL: He did.
KING: Did you testify at his trial?
K. HALL: I did. I did.
KING: Was that hard to do? K. HALL: It...
KING: I mean, he's sitting there and you've got to get up in this...
K. HALL: No. You know, I didn't look at him. It wasn't hard. I just got up and told my story. That's all.
KING: And he was sentenced to how long?
K. HALL: He was sentenced to -- if I remember, it was 50 to life on the rape and life on the kidnap.
KING: So, he's in jail. You felt comfortable.
You go on with your life, right?
K. HALL: Actually, yes, I never did quite feel comfortable. But, I mean, it takes a long time to overcome something like this.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
HARRIS: And later in the NEWSROOM, more from Katherine Hall. Plus, you'll hear from Jaycee Dugard's stepfather. He admits he still hasn't spoken to her, and he explains why.
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HARRIS: So, let's get to some business news now.
The manufacturing sector has recently become synonymous with the government bailouts, bankruptcy, and job cuts. But now a new survey shows the tide is changing, and that sector is actually growing.
Stephanie Elam is at the New York Stock Exchange with details.
Stephanie, you've got some good news for us?
STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, I guess maybe I do, although the markets aren't reflecting it right now, Tony.
HARRIS: True.
ELAM: But it's something we haven't really talked about since January of 2008. But a report out today shows the beleaguered manufacturing industry grew last month, and analysts say it's sustainable, at least in the short term. That's because inventories are so low, that supply chains will have to restock to meet demand.
And it's not just manufacturing that we're talking about. Another report out today shows pending home sales jumped more than three percent in July, marking the sixth increase in a row. Analysts say the sixth straight increase are a sure sign that the housing market is turning around.
The report is a good gauge of future home sales because it measures deals that have not yet closed, Tony. That's why we care.
HARRIS: Love it.
All right, look, a lot of this momentum that you're describing here, particularly in home sales, is due to the first-time tax credit. What is it, $8,000, $8,500? And it's about to expire. So, what's ahead for the housing market, Ms. Stephanie?
ELAM: Well, that's the thing. Most analysts do expect, Tony, that there will be some kind of drop-off in home sales when the $8,000 tax credit expires in three months. That's just logical. Makes sense.
But how big of a drop remains to be seen. Rising unemployment could also limit future sales, but despite all of that, the National Association of Realtors expects home sales to pick back up in the second half of next year because overall, the economy's on the upswing, and confidence is returning.
These reports did boost confidence on Wall Street for a hot second. Take a look right now, there is not one bit of happiness there.
HARRIS: No!
ELAM: In fact, we've had a bit of a increased sell-off. The Dow industrials off 150 points, 9345, so it's off more than 1.5 percent. Nasdaq off 29 points at 1979. And the S&P 500 off 15 at 1005, Tony. So, obviously, we'll be keeping our eyes on it. Remember, this is September. This is the first day. But this is...
HARRIS: Oh, don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't.
ELAM: ... historically a bad one for stocks.
HARRIS: Don't go to the...
ELAM: I'm just saying. It's the truth.
HARRIS: ... September swoon theory. Don't go there.
ELAM: It's not a theory. There's data to back this one up, Tony. This is how it is in September.
HARRIS: The stats don't hold up for '06 and '07. It does not hold up. You know what? We're going to talk more about this next hour, Stephanie.
ELAM: OK, let's do it.
HARRIS: Don't you go to the September swoon theory.
ELAM: OK. We will take you to the numbers.
HARRIS: All right, Stephanie. Thank you. And new details today in a gutsy identity theft case. Federal agents say the woman who stole the identities of the Federal Reserve chairman and his wife is in custody in Miami this morning.
CNN's Christine Romans is with us. She's in New York. And Christine, something tells me that of all of the identity theft cases in all of the world, this one was going to be solved, and maybe it has.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Although we're told investigators treated this one just like everyone else, right? But this is a big I.D. theft ring. You remember, it began when Anna Bernanke, the wife of the Fed chief, she had her purse on the back of a chair at a Starbucks, and the purse was snatched. It had her Social Security number, it had her driver's license, all of her credit cards.
And they became one of 500 families who were targeted and snared by this one ring. It was about $1.2 million, I think they got from all of these people altogether, and about ten different financial institutions were involved.
Well, this woman was nabbed in Miami. She's from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Shonya Michelle Young is her name. And the U.S. Marshal Service says that they got her at an airport near Miami. She'll be arraigned in about a couple of hours. She's 38 years old. And they describe her as a major check casher for this identity ring.
They say that she was found with wigs and with someone else's identification, but with her picture, in her pocket. And that she was -- I think it had her picture. At any rate, it was -- that's right, it was a fraudulent Visa debit card. She had a driver's license, a fraudulent driver's license in someone else's name in her pocket. And they even have a picture, a surveillance picture of her, they say, using someone else's identity -- that's the one -- at a bank, at a financial institution.
Her job, they say, investigators say, was to assume someone's identity and go in and drain all the money out of their account. And that's how it worked, to go up to the cashier and presume that you're that person and take all of the money. They are saying that she is the girlfriend of the number three in this ring, that there are six or seven more people that they are going to get. Expect more arrests. But this particular ring is unraveling as we speak.
HARRIS: All right. And Christine, send me your thoughts in an e-mail if you would, please, on this whole September stock swoon thing and -- because, come on, so much of this is psychological. Look at the data today. Come on.
ROMANS: Psychological, that's what -- but what do you think the market's made out of? It's fact, it's fear, greed, psychology, it's everything -- there's nothing more psychological than markets.
HARRIS: OK. Christine...
ROMANS: I'm going have to side with my friend, Stephanie, Tony. HARRIS: I'm waiting for the e-mail.
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HARRIS: All right, thanks, Chrisine.
New information this morning on the massacre -- no other word for it -- the massacre that took place inside a Georgia home. Relatives say the sole survivor is a 3-year-old boy. Eight people died in Saturday's bloodbath near the coastal city of Brunswick.
CNN's Sean Callebs is there. And, Sean, a lot of questions out there. And police, at least at this point, aren't saying very much.
SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They're really not, Tony. I think that's the one thing that has been the constant throughout the past several days. Authorities are being incredibly tight-lipped at this hour. We don't know a whole lot.
We can show you some new pictures over the last hour, hour and a half or so. Three large crime scene trucks, special ops truck have gone down this small road to the New Hope Mobile Home Park behind me. That of course where the murders, those brutal murders, took place Saturday night.
We do know that 22-year-old Guy Heinze apparently called 911, said, quote, "My whole family is dead." He's the one that called authorities. He is now in custody, having been charged with possession of drugs as well as tampering with evidence.
But you can't say that locals here are overwhelmed with fear or anything like that. They're certainly concerned, but many of them believe police are just doing what they have to do.
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BRENDA RICHARDSON, WAITRESS: We can understand that because, you know, any time you're doing an investigation you have to be -- you know, you try to be careful on how you release information. And then you don't want to trigger anything.
So, I think they're doing a very good job with trying to take their time. And it's just one of those situations where, hey, you know, who did this? Where are they? Are they still lurking out there? So, you know, it's a little unsettling.
MARGARET PRATT, RESIDENT: They're doing their jobs. And if they don't have anything to say, you know, why say it? I mean, if they don't have any kind of evidence to show who's doing it or who did it or what actually happened there, you know, it's good that they're not spreading things and making it bigger than what it is to scare a lot more people.
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CALLEBS: In his 911 call, Heinze said it appeared that the eight people had been beaten to death. We do know their identities now, Tony. They were a father, four of his children, an uncle and two family members. Brutal.
HARRIS: Yes, it really does sound brutal. Sean Callebs for us. Sean, appreciate it. Thank you.
Let's get to Jacqui Jeras now in our severe weather center hurricane headquarters. And, Jacqui, what are you starting with? Boy, you've got a lot on your plate today.
JACQUI JERAS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I do. We're going to kind of focus on tropics this time around, Tony, and the latest on Hurricane Jimena because we do have a new advisory and new information, and that's that the maximum sustained winds have dropped down a little bit. We're at 145. Still a very powerful category four storm.
Want to talk to you a little bit more about the track of this thing because it has shifted a bit in the last number of hours. So, if you haven't been watching for a while, notice that Cabo San Lucas, right there on the tip, big resort town, is no longer in that cone of uncertainty. So, as it's taking more of this westerly track, we're not going to see landfall until maybe Wednesday, potentially Thursday now.
We do expect some weakening to take place for a couple of reasons here. First of all, let me show you just how small this peninsula is, by the way. This thing is only a couple of miles across. So, it's a really small target, so to speak, in terms of whether or not it's going to hit it. We'll put a distancer on here and put it across for you. And there you can see maybe 20, 28 miles is what I'm getting in terms of your distance there. So, that is certainly a bit on the short side.
This is also very mountainous. We're looking at 2,000- to 3,000- foot mountains in here. So, when the storm comes on in there, it is going to kind of get broken up a little bit because of that. Water temperatures, the storm right now is right into this area about 150 miles away from the coast. You get out of this red and those are cooler water temperatures. Much more difficult to sustain a hurricane.
You want to know more information on this, go to CNN.com/hurricane. This is a really cool interactive site guide. You can hit the track. You can hit the satellite and get all the latest information from there.
And we're also watching the Atlantic, last but not least, Tony. Potentially some development here today or tomorrow. This could eventually become tropical storm Erica. On the "E" storm now.
HARRIS: That's right. That's right.
All right, Jacqui, appreciate it. Thank you.
You know, it is slow going in the Ninth Ward of New Orleans. You'll see what it's like now, four years after Hurricane Katrina. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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Early reports indicate no injuries. But again, this is a plane on Route 495. The plane made this landing just before 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. And again, early reports no injuries. A small plane on a highway there in Mansfield, Massachusetts. We will keep an eye on this story for you.
A raging wildfire near Los Angeles has now burned nearly 122,000 acres. Fire officials say it could take two weeks to contain it. Ten thousand homes are under evacuation orders. Governor Schwarzenegger is expected to update the fire situation in a briefing next hour.
Four years after Hurricane Katrina drowned New Orleans, the poor neighborhood known as the Lower Ninth Ward is struggling. Bare concrete foundations and waist-high weeds rule the landscape today, but CNN's Sean Callebs found signs of life stirring in the ruins.
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SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's been four years since Robert Green and his mother were stranded on their roof here in the Lower Ninth Ward of New Orleans. This is the Lower Ninth in the aftermath.
Green's mother was swept off the roof by the floodwaters. He managed to survive and return. I first spoke with Green a few months after the storm, after he found his mother's body, after he came to grips with the fact Katrina took his granddaughter as well.
ROBERT GREEN KATRINA VICTIM: I don't see my baby no more. I don't see my mother no more. I don't see my neighbors no more. All I can do to just be happy that she's going to buried.
CALLEBS: Green spent most of the last four years living in this small FEMA trailer, sharing his story with anyone who came through the Lower Ninth. His story has finally taken a positive turn. Green recently abandoned the trailer for a new home build by Brad Pitt's charitable organization, Make It Right.
GREEN: We have 14 families, and we feel crowded, but we had 3,000 houses that have gone, and we would love to see those houses come back.
CALLEBS: Pitt's group has built 15 homes so far and sells them for only about $75,000 to residents in the Lower Ninth. Volunteer work makes that deal possible. They're very green. Energy efficient. Recycled materials. But above all... UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The safety is a primary concern for us, so we want to make sure that if there is another flood, the houses that we're building are going to be safe from that flood, so they're all elevated, at least above Katrina-level flooding.
CALLEBS: Volunteers here are leading the way, like Matt Petersen's group, Global Green.
MATT PETERSEN, PRESIDENT, GLOBAL GREEN: There's so much work to be done, we can wait, and we can't rely on the federal government. This is I think an area where we realize that we as citizens of this great country need to take responsibility for our nation, and starting right here.
CALLEBS: HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan knows mistakes were made in the efforts to get people back in their homes. Be it another hurricane, a flood, fire or earthquake, people will need help rebuilding again.
SHAUN DONOVAN, U.S. SECRETARY OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT: We have to be more flexible. We have to be more responsive and make sure that the programs don't just work in theory, but they work in reality for families.
CALLEBS: Making it easier for those who lost so much to start over.
Sean Callebs, CNN, New Orleans.
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HARRIS: Investigators are still combing through the evidence they've gathered at the home of Phillip Garrido, and we're hearing from a victim that sent him to prison years ago.
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K. HALL: I started screaming, oh, my God, oh, my God, it's him. He's the one who kidnapped me.
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HARRIS: Authorities are trying to find out if sex offender Phillip Garrido is linked to the disappearance of two other young girls. They are also examining a bone fragment found next to Garrido's home to see if it's human.
Garrido faces 29 counts connected to the kidnapping, rape and imprisonment of Jaycee Dugard. She was 11 when he allegedly snatched her. She is 29 now with two daughters said to be fathered by Garrido. Years earlier, Garrido kidnapped and raped another woman, Katherine Callaway Hall, and he served just 10 years of a 50-year sentence. Hall tells our Larry King she has lived in absolute fear.
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KING: So, he's in jail. You felt comfortable. You go on with your life.
K. HALL: Actually, yes, I never did quite feel comfortable. But I mean, it takes a long time to overcome something like this.
KING: What prison was he?
K. HALL: You know, I think Leavenworth, but I'm not sure.
KING: Oh, it was federal?
K. HALL: Yes. It was federal, and he ended up in Lompoc.
KING: Oh, he transported you, right? That's kidnapping.
K. HALL: Right.
KING: That's federal.
K. HALL: He ended up in Lompoc. I don't know where he lived before that.
KING: How did you know he got out?
K. HALL: Because I thought he approached me on my (INAUDIBLE) at work.
KING: So, you thought he was out?
K. HALL: I had no idea he was out. I wasn't expecting him to be out for at least -- after parole for at least another six years. In fact, we had been told his projected release time was 2006.
KING: So, when you saw him out, did you call people and say...
K. HALL: I did.
KING: And?
K. HALL: I called my pit boss -- oh, well.
KING: In Vegas, where you worked.
K. HALL: Yes, and I had security card him. But he didn't -- it wasn't the right I.D., but that didn't surprise me.
KING: But who told you, yes, that's him, he's out?
K. HALL: I got on the phone on my breaks and started calling. I called Lompoc Penitentiary. They said he'd been released to San Francisco City Jail pending parole. I called them. They said he's in an Oakland halfway house. I called them. They said here's his parole officer's number. So, I made an appointment.
KING: And have you lived in fear ever since?
K. HALL: Yes. KING: How many years ago was that did he get out?
K. HALL: He got out in '88.
KING: So, you've been living in fear now 21 years.
K. HALL: Yes. And especially the first five years, I just knew he was hunting me. I just had this -- I just knew he was.
J. HALL: She was still working in Tahoe, though, when he approached.
K. HALL: When he got out. I was in the same place doing the same thing under the same name. So, I just decided to leave Tahoe and disappear.
KING: So, you couldn't do anything. You couldn't Twitter, you couldn't put your Facebook or nothing, right?
K. HALL: No.
J. HALL: Never have.
KING: Change your name at all?
K. HALL: When I got married, yes.
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HARRIS: What a story.
Here's what we're working on for the next hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Is Iran easing its nuclear stance? Christiane Amanpour takes an inside look at Tehran's apparent new pledge to work with world powers.
And swine flu on college campuses. Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen live with the story every parent will want to see.
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HARRIS: The California sex offender charged with kidnapping and raping Jaycee Dugard had a record of rape. We have been bringing you the story of Phillip Garrido's earlier victim, Katherine Callaway Hall. Here's more of her interview with Larry King.
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KING: Jim just told me something interesting. He's told many of his friends to tune in tonight to this program, but didn't tell them why, right?
J. HALL: I didn't, no.
KING: So, they are learning for the first time that your wife was previously kept and attacked for eight hours by this alleged kidnapper of this woman who had two girls with her.
J. HALL: That's correct. And my family didn't know either. My two brothers and my sister did not know. And my father had a very small part of the story, but my sister didn't know. My brothers, they all...
KING: You have a son, don't you, Katherine?
K. HALL: I do, yes.
KING: You had him at the time of this, right?
K. HALL: Yes.
KING: How did he react to all of this?
K. HALL: Well, he was very young. You know, he acted out by going to school and getting in fights because he didn't know why mommy was crying all the time.
KING: Did you eventually tell him the story?
K. HALL: Well, he knew it. He knew it, as much as he could understand at the different ages, you know. He's always known it, but he acted out in his own way.
KING: So, you've lived with this all these years.
K. HALL: Yes.
KING: And when he's out now, you're living in fear?
K. HALL: Yes.
KING: Daily?
K. HALL: Yes. I try not to let it ruin my life. But it's always under the -- just there under the surface.
KING: So, in a sense, this is weird, but as weird as it is, this story, there's some relief for you.
K. HALL: There's absolutely relief. There's absolute relief.
J. HALL: She's free again.
KING: Because he's never going to to bother you again.
J. HALL: That's right.
K. HALL: And I can't even -- I haven't even begun to feel that, you know, what that's going to mean to me because of all the media coverage.
KING: It's a weight off you. Why are you here tonight? K. HALL: Because I want to -- I want -- because I just want to claim my name back. I want to claim my identity. I want to -- I just want to be able to live out loud.
J. HALL: And we wanted to support Jaycee and their family so badly with what they're going through.
KING: The victim.
UNIDENTIFIED: The victim and her family and Carl and Terry. And tell come out here and tell them how much we're behind them and with them, and she's got it open, and say thank you, especially to the two ladies who -- the two officers at Berkeley.
KING: We're going to have them later. Have you talked to Carl?
K. HALL: No, I haven't.
KING: Well, you're going to now. Joining us from New York is Carl Probyn, the stepfather of Jaycee Dugard. He witnessed Jaycee's abduction in 1991 and for a time was a suspect in the case. Carl, what are your feelings as you watch and listen to Katie?
CARL PROBYN, JAYCEE DUGARD'S STEPFATHER: I really feel sorry for her. I'm, you know, I'm a victim myself, you know, being -- watching the kidnapping and everything. I know how she feels.
KING: All right, first, obviously, how is your stepdaughter doing?
PROBYN: She's doing good. You know, I don't get a report every day. I've been gone for a week doing these shows and everything, you know. And she's doing good.
KING: Have you talked to her?
PROBYN: I have not.
KING: You have not talked to her?
PROBYN: No. She's with a group, and they're taking care of her, and they're getting adjusted. And my wife and daughter are up there. And it's going real slow. I mean, I don't need to be involved in this and disrupt anything.
KING: What does your wife tell you?
PROBYN: She's the happiest woman in the world.
KING: What does she tell you about how your stepdaughter is doing?
PROBYN: I'm kind of on the loop out here right now, because they don't want to tell me too much because I'm doing TV shows. And, you know, we really don't discuss it too much. She says she's doing great. She said she looks really young for being 29 years old. She looks almost the same as when she was kidnapped. And she's healthy, and she's smart, you know?
KING: What about her children?
PROBYN: They're OK. They're also smart. I don't know if they've -- what education they have or whatever, but she says they're smart. They're smart kids.
KING: Do you have any fear of the Stockholm Syndrome, which is that the captor suddenly sides with -- the person captured sides with the captor?
PROBYN: I'm sure it happened. I know Jaycee very well. She's a mellow person. She was just a sweet kid. She never got mad. She's not angry, you know. If this was my daughter, my other daughter, she wouldn't be here, because she'd be climbing that fence every day.
But Jaycee adjusted to this. That's why she's alive. So, the same way she adjusted, I think she can get over this because she's going to -- it's going to be behind her. I think, you know, it may take years, but I think she's going to get over this.
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HARRIS: What a story.
