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Chopper Ride with BP Exec; 7-Year-Old Executed by Taliban; Peru's Case against Van Der Sloot; Senate to Vote on Limiting EPA Power; Pope May End 1st Year with Apology; iPad Security Breach

Aired June 10, 2010 - 09:00   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: And good morning, everybody. I'm Kyra Phillips.

Once again, CNN gains exclusive access. This time to the chief operating officer of BP. How does it feel to be one of the most hated men in America right now?

A river comes out of its banks so fast, so furious. Some people couldn't even get out of its way.

And AT&T says it's plugged the hole in your iPad. Hopefully AT&T beat hackers to the punch.

It's day 52 of the Gulf oil crisis. And an ominous new development in coastal Alabama. The Coast Guard has closed Perdido Pass near the resort town of Port Orange. The inland waterway is the main route for fishermen and boaters to access the Gulf of Mexico.

For weeks, crews worked frantically to protect it. But thick waves of oil have seeped passed the thousands of feet of boom. Oil and tar balls have washed ashore four states now from Mississippi to Florida. Health officials in Louisiana and Alabama are tracking reports of respiratory and skin irritation problems.

Now later today, President Obama meets the families of the original victims, the 11 oil rig workers killed in that explosion.

The feds have given BP until tomorrow to submit a contingency plan in case the containment cap fails.

And BP's stock plunged 16 percent yesterday. Meaning it's worth half of what it was before this crisis. Investors are worried that the company could be overwhelmed by cleanup cost and payments for damages.

He is, by many accounts, one of the most hated men in America. So how does BP executive Doug Suttles deal with all that?

CNN's John Roberts asked him exactly that when he accompanied the COO to ground zero of the environmental disaster caused by his company. John joins us now from New Orleans.

John, pretty incredible access. JOHN ROBERTS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, and you know, Kyra, last week, you were out there with Admiral Thad Allen, the national incident commander. You got a look at it from the government perspective.

Yesterday, we asked BP, how about taking us out to the rig and showing us what's going on from the company perspective as they dig so far underneath the ocean floor to try to kill that well that's leaking all of that oil?

They're making some progress in capturing a lot of that oil. It's not spewing out uncontrolled into the Gulf of Mexico but they still have a long way to go. We went out there and we talked to folks on the rig. And like you found when you went out there last week, a lot of dedicated people working very hard to try to get this thing under control, Kyra.

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DOUG SUTTLES, BP COO: Yes, that's the Drill Ship Enterprise, so that's the vessel that's right over the top of the well. And that's the vessel that's taking up production from the cap assembly up to the surface.

And what you could see that flare is the gas that's with the oil that's being burned off.

ROBERTS (voice-over): He has flown over the sea many times. But for BP chief operating officer, Doug Suttles, this was his first opportunity to actually touch down on the rigs attempting to kill his runaway well.

SUTTLES: You're actually looking at something that's never been done before. In fact, we've never even thought about having this big equipment just close together working like this.

ROBERTS: We land on the Development Driller 3, the DD-3, a brand-new rig seeking the first kill well deep beneath the ocean floor. Immediately, we'd see a stark reminder of how we got to this point.

(On camera): As you arrive on the Development Driller 3, you're met by this sign. It's a safety sign. Days without lost time, injury days without major events. And you come over here, the number is 52 -- 52 days since the Deepwater Horizon exploded and sank.

(Voice-over): But we also get our very first ship board look at the first piece of good news since this disaster unfolded.

SUTTLES: First of all, you can kind of see down here on the water now. As I can tell you when I was out here right -- in the days right after this started, this would have been brown oil.

So even though it's horrible to look at, it looks a lot better than what it looked like those first few days. And part of it is what's happening right there, which is -- that's sitting right on top of the well.

And of course, there's about -- yesterday, we got 15,000 barrels of oil up through there. And if that hadn't been there, it would have been oil in the sea.

ROBERTS: It's clear that the catastrophe aboard the Deepwater Horizon has had a profound effect on this drilling crew.

Brian West shows me one of his remarkable ROVs that serve as the technician's hands and eyes in the crushing depths of the ocean.

(On camera): What can be put on these arms?

BRIAN WEST, TECHNICIAN: Anybody -- anything you can think of. We -- we put shears, cutters, grinders.

ROBERTS (voice-over): But look on the side of this submarine. And there it is again. Horizon 11.

WEST: The industry is changing because of this -- this event. It's never going to be the same.

ROBERTS (on camera): How do you think it's going to change the industry?

WEST: There'll be a lot of safety changes, I'm sure. A lot of procedural changes. So everybody is going to look at drilling these wells and doing these operations totally different.

ROBERTS (voice-over): One difference? There is now an ROV in the water 24/7, keeping careful watch over the relief well's blowout preventer.

JAMES LUSK, ROV PILOT: It's the ocean floor down here.

ROBERTS: James Lusk is the ROV's pilot. A native of Slidell just north of New Orleans, he takes his professional assignment personally.

LUSK: We all live by the coast. We're just here to hopefully stop it, sir.

ROBERTS (on camera): For all the containment domes, the siphon pipe, the top kill operation, the top cap, what you see behind me on the Discoverer Enterprise is probably as good as it's going to get until the month of August because the last best chance to kill that well, to stop the oil from coming up from the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico rests here with the 189 people on board the DD-3. And to a person, they say, they are committed to make sure the job gets done.

(Voice-over): In the driller's shaft, where cameras have not been allowed until now, a highly skilled crew guides a drill down 13,000 feet. They have 5,000 left to go. Their target, a hole smaller than a dinner plate.

A seemingly impossible shot, yet toolpusher Ted Stukenborg says it's a point of pride to hit it on the first try.

TED STUKENBORG, TOOLPUSHER: It weighs on my mind. I know it weighs on a lot of people's mind that this is something we have got to do right, got to do it -- got to do it safe and we got to do it the first time.

ROBERTS: The work, long hours in the searing heat for the most part has been pretty thankless. Few people are saying anything good about the oil industry at the moment. But they press on in extreme conditions to extreme depths.

STUKENBORG: I think a lot of people don't understand. They don't know. And if they -- if they understood and they knew, they probably wouldn't be as hard on us, I think.

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ROBERTS: You know it's very easy to see this dividing into camps, those people who side with the environment, the ecology, the fishing industry here and tourism that's been shut down as a result of this oil spill and then big bad oil on the other side.

But, Kyra, I can tell you that the time that I spent on that rig yesterday, I saw a lot of very dedicated, very professional people who are working very hard to do whatever they could, as we saw with that ROV driver, James Lusk, to preserve a part of the world that they are very familiar with because most of those people who work on those rigs come from right here.

PHILLIPS: And they're remembering also those 11 workers that died. Every day they wake up in the morning and tackle this disaster.

One quick question, because I know you asked Doug Suttles a very direct question with regard to how America feels right now.

I mean when I was out there, I considered myself pretty lucky that I was with Admiral Thad Allen, because basically, you know, he's the hero right now trying to solve every problem with regard to this response, although he is getting a lot of criticism and he's got to deal with that every day.

You were there with probably the second most hated man right now in the world next to the CEO, Tony Hayward. And you asked him about that, right?

ROBERTS: I did. I said, you know, he's been at this for 52 days now. He's getting an average of about five hours of sleep. He's only had an opportunity to go back home maybe a couple of times over the last seven weeks.

And I said, how do you get up and stay, you know, focused on the mission at hand knowing the amount of criticism that's coming down on you and knowing that you are, at the moment at least, one of the most disliked people in America?

And he says that, you know, it obviously -- it wears on you. But he tries to stay focused on the task at hand. He is a very big job. He's got a very big oil spill out there in the Gulf of Mexico. And sitting around having a pity party is not going to help anyone.

So he tries to stay focused on the mission, and that is getting that well killed and getting all of the oil cleaned up. And he spends an awful lot of time out there on the water, on the beaches, talking with officials, you know, considering ideas that could help out.

I mentioned just before the end of the hour there that when he was in Alabama, Gulf Shores, I believe it was, just talking with the mayor there. And they had one little machine that cleans up the beach. You know picks up cigarettes and dirt and, you know, potato chip packages and whatever.

And he said, do you think we could modify that to pick up tar balls and other oil-soaked debris that comes ashore. The mayor said, hey, great idea. He said, but we only have one of these. So Suttles said we'll buy you 10 more.

So he's been trying to do whatever they can to help out here. But it is difficult because people do seek to demonize the oil industry right now. And he says that he can understand that.

PHILLIPS: And they definitely need to keep writing those checks, that's for sure.

John Roberts, we'll talk more next hour. Great job.

Well, a wall of floodwater makes a mess for Texas. The rain keeps coming and the river keeps rising. And it happens so fast that long-time residents of New Braunfels couldn't even believe it.

One person was killed in that flooding. Dozens of rescues took place. Most people got out of their homes by themselves. But some who usually get flood warnings from the city's reverse 911 system say that they got no calls this time.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We normally get a call. We didn't get the call. By the time the sirens started blowing, it was too late for these people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just think that the water started rising between 6:00 and 7:00. Just at a rate like it did in '98. You know two or three feet every, you know, 10 or 12 minutes.

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PHILLIPS: And here's some irony for you. The flooding shut down a water park. And as you can several buses owned by a river outfitter are not even fit to drive.

Bonnie Schneider, is Texas going to get a break?

BONNIE SCHNEIDER, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Not today, Kyra. We have more rain for Texas. And you have to realize, yesterday's the rainfall totals, 4 to 7 inches. And that's just too much for any area to handle.

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PHILLIPS: OK, Bonnie, thanks.

SCHNEIDER: Sure.

PHILLIPS: The Mexican government continues to press for information and wants a quick and transparent investigation into the shooting death of a 14-year-old Mexican boy. A U.S. Border Control agent and -- actually shot and killed him at that border in Juarez.

That part is now in doubt. The circumstances, well, they are in doubt thanks to this cell phone video taken from the Mexican side.

The agent claims illegal immigrants had surrounded him at the border and were throwing rocks. The video makes you wonder if that's accurate. You see him on the U.S. side aiming his weapon at someone about 60 feet away in Mexico. And you can hear at least three gunshots on the tape.

One hit Sergio Hernandez in the head. The boys' parents say that he was a straight A student and too small to threaten anyone.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (Through Translator): He was just a kid.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (Through Translator): He didn't even kill him in his land. He was here in Mexico. Why did he do it?

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PHILLIPS: Well, the Mexican Foreign Ministry says that U.S. border agents have killed or wounded 17 Mexicans so far this year. That number was 12 all of last year and five in 2008.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection says assaults on border agents are up, 799 of them from them from October 1st of last year through the end of last month and that agents fired their weapons 31 times.

They also say when people throw rocks they are not throwing harmless little pebbles either. They are actually big chunks of rock.

Now when we come back, we take you to the other side of the world. A boy just 7 years old accused of spying, then executed. We'll explain how it happened.

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PHILLIPS: He was just 7 years old. But in the end, he was brutalized like a grown man. Suspected Taliban militants have executed a 7-year-old boy in Afghanistan accusing him of spying for the government. The boy was killed Tuesday in Helmand Province. More now from our senior international correspondent Nic Robertson -- Nic. Go ahead, Nic.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, allegedly he was taken from his village, a remote village in the northern Helmand area close to where British troops operate. And while he was there he was taken to a tree and hung from the tree and executed.

We asked President Karzai about it earlier today. And he told us that he still hadn't been able to confirm these details. A local governor, though, said this is what happened. President Karzai said there's no way that the Taliban or anyone should be killing 7-year-old kids here.

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HAMID KARZAI, PRESIDENT OF AFGHANISTAN: A 7-year-old boy cannot be a spy. A 7-year-old boy cannot be anything but a 7-year-old boy. And therefore, hanging or shooting to kill a 7-year-old boy regardless of whatever reason one would give for it is a crime against humanity.

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ROBERTS: You hear me OK? So what President Karzai also talked about was an attack, a suicide bombing at a wedding party not far away, just outside the city of Kandahar, 39 people killed.

The Taliban are saying it wasn't them. A lone suicide bomber walks into the wedding party and blows himself up. Eighty people wounded. Just an indication, both examples, of how a bitter, factional and just absolutely bloody the conflict is getting. And President Karzai said as much in his conversations today -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Yes, it's simply horrifying. We'll follow the story with you, though, Nic. Appreciate it.

And two New Jersey men arrested for trying to join a terrorist group are due in court for a bail hearing today. They were arrested at JFK airport over the weekend. Authorities say that they were trying to fly to Somalia and wage a violent jihad.

Both of the men charged with conspiracy to kill, maim and murder persons outside the U.S. They could get life in prison if connected.

Stay with us. We're recapping this hour's top stories in just a minute. Plus a story that affects homeowners everywhere. We have new numbers and new clues on the housing market.

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PHILLIPS: It's day 52 of the Gulf oil crisis and an ominous new development, oil from the massive spill in the Gulf has moved into the inland waterway along coastal Alabama forcing the Coast Guard to close Perdido Pass. That's the main water access route to the Gulf for fishermen and boaters in the popular resort town of Orange Beach. Checking other top stories. A wall of floodwater makes a mess for central Texas. At least one person has died. Dozens of others had to be rescued from trees and rooftops. Forecasters say up to 10 inches fell in some places yesterday.

The governor has activated state search and rescue operations. More rain expected today.

Cell phone video raising questions about a fatal shooting on the Texas border with Mexico. A border agent shot and killed a 14-year- old Mexican boy. That agent claims suspected illegal immigrants had surrounded him and were throwing rocks. The video doesn't seem to show that.

The Mexican government is calling for a quick and transparent investigation.

Investigators in Peru building a mountain of evidence against Joran Van Der Sloot. Find out why they may not need his help now to reenact the killing.

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PHILLIPS: Joran Van Der Sloot, prime suspect in the death of Natalee Holloway. He says he knew where the body was but never confessed to murder. Now five years later, he does confess, but this time it's to killing a 21-year-old Peruvian girl. And investigators say that's enough evidence to put him behind bars.

"In Session" correspondent Jean Casarez joins me live from Lima with the latest developments on this case.

So, Jean, does this now mean that Van Der Sloot will not take police back to the hotel to reenact the murder?

JEAN CASAREZ, IN SESSION CORRESPONDENT: It appears as though that it will not happen. You're right.

I want to tell you we are here at the National Peruvian Police headquarters. This is their administrative building for all legal aspects of cases and investigation unit. We are waiting a press conference this morning where authorities are going to discuss aspects of this criminal investigation and may possibly discuss taking this criminal investigation and turning it over to prosecutors.

That's what we're waiting for. Now the process that is included in all of that is when it is turned over to prosecutors, Joran Van Der Sloot, who is in a cell in this building behind me, will be transferred to judicial authorities. He will leave this building and media right now is at the exit of this building.

They are awaiting -- they believe that he may be transferred today. We have no confirmation of that. But procedurally, when the case goes into the hands of prosecutors that will indeed happen. We believe that a medical examination will take place while he is transported to judicial authority. Now he does have an attorney now, Faben Maximo Altez. And he just did an interview with local authorities saying he is going to ask to suppress the confession that Joran Van Der Sloot gave while in custody saying he had no representation at the time.

PHILLIPS: So, Jean, I understand there's going to be a news briefing possibly coming up within the next hour. Any idea what that will be about?

CASAREZ: Well, we understand officially that they are going to discuss aspects of this case. For this entire week, they have been doing the criminal investigation, the CSI work, as we call it in the United States.

They're going to discuss that with us and we'll see in that press conference if they get an indication of when they will turn the case over to prosecutors.

It's much similar to the United States. A criminal investigation begins the process. It's turned over to the prosecutor. And at that point, that's when criminal and formal charges are filed.

PHILLIPS: All right, Jean, let us know what happens. Thanks.

And we're not through with Joran Van Der Sloot just yet. There is the matter of this extortion case against him in Alabama where he could face criminal charges.

He allegedly offered to reveal the whereabouts of Natalee Holloway's body for money. A source with the feds tells CNN that a representative of Holloway's mother paid Van Der Sloot $25,000. The representative was an undercover FBI agent. But the FBI says the agency did not provide the money.

It's not clear whether Van Der Sloot used that money to travel to South America.

So you have a murder suspect who just accepted thousands of dollars from an FBI agent in an undercover sting, but was never arrested. Critics say the FBI botched that investigation and Stephany Flores' murder could have been prevented.

In just about an hour, a former FBI agent defends the agency's actions and explains why Van Der Sloot was never taken into custody.

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PHILLIPS: When it comes to the economy, there are plenty of things to worry about. The jobs would be a big concern, obviously, and today, Wall Street has new numbers out of the labor marker. Alison Kosik at the New York Stock Exchange. So, Alison, are things getting any better?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: You know, Kyra, there is some improvement. Listen to this. New jobless claims only dipped only a bit, but the number of people who've been getting unemployment benefits over the long-term tumbled to 4.4 million and that's the lowest level since December of 2008. It could be a sign that people are beginning to find work or it could be a statistic blip. We'll have to wait until next week to see if the number is revised.

Either way, the market is getting off to slight a solid start. We're watching BP's shares closely after they plunged almost 16 percent yesterday, but in the early going, take a look, the Dow Industrial up 121 points, the Nasdaq composite higher by 31.

And Kyra, if you're checking out apartments to run here in New York City, I got a listing that some history to go along with it, President Obama's college apartment is on the market. City Habitat said the president rented the two-bedroom place with a roommate while he was a student at Columbia University in 1981. No word how much he paid to rent it back then. At $1900 a month, it's a steal here in the Big Apple. That's what it's going for.

PHILLIPS: Something is actually a steal in the Big Apple. I don't know, Alison.

KOSIK: $1900 a month is.

PHILLIPS: Yes, that's true. It's pretty outrageous how much it cost.

KOSIK: I know.

PHILLIPS: I've seen that first hand. All right. Alison, thanks.

We got more mixed news on the housing market this morning. Fewer Americans falling behind on their mortgage payments. The online real estate company, Real de Track, says that foreclosure filings fell about 3 percent in May compared to the month before, but here's the flip side. For those who have fallen behind, banks are seizing foreclosed homes more aggressively.

What would you do with more than $220,000? Buy a home, a yacht, private airplane, how about raising a child almost to adulthood. CNN's Christine Romans has the staggering new estimates on the price of parenting as she gets ready to birth another beautiful baby.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: A beautiful cost center is what we called them, right? $222,360. Kyra, this is the price -- on my expensive tummy. This is the price tag, let me tell you, for a child. According to the USDA, they do this every year, they do a cost analysis of what it costs to raise a kid from birth to 17 years old. It's food, it's shelter, it's child care, it's education, it's health care. Now, this is how it breaks down. Birth to age 17, if you make less than $56,000 a year, that cost is about $160,000. If you're middle income, $56,000 to 98,000, $222,000 to raise that kid.

And if you are lucky enough to be in that group that makes $98,000 or more, you spend even more money on your kids, $369,000 a piece. Now, I want to be clear, Kyra. A 70 percent of the cost of raising the kid is the housing cost. So, I mean, you're getting a benefit from that, too, right? You are living in the house as well. So, it's mostly housing cost. The things that are going up, health care, education, food costs. A lot of these other costs raising a kid have been going out.

I figured it out. I had to think about it on an annual basis because it was just too stunning to think about the big number. And if you are a middle income, two-parent family, you can expect to pay between $11,000 and $13,000 a year for your little darling.

PHILLIPS: Wow. The government has this funny statistic as you put where the more kids you have, the less expensive it is.

ROMANS: Right. So, before you choke too much on the idea of adding another one to your brood, indeed, the government points out that as you have more children, the cost per kid go down a little bit, because, apparently, you share the costs of the house. You share the house, the car, the food, et cetera, et cetera. They get a little cheaper the more you have. But, just put that in your personal finance budgeting when you're thinking about growing your family.

That's what the government says is the cost per child. It's actually up only very, very slightly over the last year. It's up quite a bit from 1960, you could imagine but only very slight not because of the recession. Usually, the cost increases a little more than it did the last year, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: All right. So, hold on a minute, Christine. So, Scotty, can we pull out a little wider on Christine Romans there? Can we get a wider picture? I just want --

ROMANS: I'm wearing black. I'm trying to hide it.

PHILLIPS: There we go. OK. Do a little shout out down there to the half a million dollar baby that's about to be born. I say half a million dollars because, of course, that child is going to go to Harvard or Yale, because Christine's kids have already become so bright and successful.

ROMANS: On scholarship. On scholarship.

PHILLIPS: There you go. Christine Romans, congratulations, and we'll talk to you again soon. All right.

The power of the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate air pollution is at issue today on Capitol Hill. The Senate is set to vote on a resolution of disapproval of a move to strip the EPA of its authority to impose new limits on greenhouse gases, that the stuff that spews from our vehicles at industrial facilities, as you know. Alaska's Republican Senator, Lisa Murkowski, is the author of that controversial measure. President Obama has vowed to veto that resolution.

IPad users beware, strangers may be worming their way into your privacy. Apple says there has been a security breach.

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PHILLIPS: Day 52 of the Gulf oil crisis and an ominous new development in Coastal Alabama. The coast guard has closed Perdido Pass near the resort of town of Fort Orange. The inland waterway is the main route for fishermen and boaters to access the Gulf of Mexico, and for weeks, crews worked franticly trying to protect it, but thick waves of oil have now seeped past the thousands of feet of boom.

And later today, President Obama meets with the families of the original victims. The 11 oil rig workers killed in that explosion. Also, the feds have given BP until tomorrow to submit a contingency plan in case the containment cap fails. And BP's stock plunged 16 percent yesterday. Meaning, it's worth half of what it was before the crisis. Investors are worried that the company could be overwhelmed by cleanup costs and payments for those damages.

Now, this week, CNN is taking a closer look at ideas to help purge the oil from the Gulf. We're demonstrating five ideas a day from scientists, inventors and even viewers like you have been writing in. Today, we're getting into the mind of Bill Nye, the science guy. Bill received a mechanical engineering degree from Cornell University and has received honorary doctorates from three universities.

Good morning, Bill. As you know, there have been thousands of people that are pitching their solutions to BP. It got to be a daunting task to sift through all of those and actually try to determine if there's a magic bullet somewhere in there. So, what do you think? Is it a good idea for BP to take in all these proposals?

BILL NYE, "THE SCIENCE GUY": Sure, if they got the staff. I mean, the worst thing would be to suppress ideas. You don't want that. The way to have a good idea is to have a lot of ideas. But I will say, at my website, I've gotten almost 1,000 e-mails from people who have reasonable suggestions. Let's say there are a couple of things. The amount of pressure involved is just not in your everyday experience. That's what I think throws a lot of people off. At the bottom of the ocean, there is about 150 atmospheres of seawater and in your car tire, you will have two atmospheres.

If you have a high-pressure racing bicycle, you might have eight atmospheres. This is 150 atmospheres of seawater and then the oil coming out of that thing is at 460 atmospheres. And say you say, well, let's just put this on top, let's screw this down, let's put a gasket on there. All that stuff would be literally blown away by the flow of oil, and so, it's a very difficult problem.

PHILLIPS: All right. A lot of attention has been thrown at, for example, actor Kevin Costner. He testified before Congress yesterday. He's actually financed this company called Ocean Therapy Solutions. Costner is pitching this centrifuge product that essentially just sucks up the oily water and separates the pollutants. He says it is 99 percent successful, but the problem is, even after this disaster, no government agency is interested. What do you think about his company that he's financing?

NYE: Let's give it a shot. If it works, that's great. Once again the scale (ph) of it. That's just so out of your everyday experience. This thing is 500 nautical miles long and a 100 nautical miles wide. There are various patches of oil and then you have a lot of oil at mid-depth that is to say somewhere between the ocean floor and the ocean surface and getting that oil out of what people call the water column. I mean, it's doable, perhaps.

PHILLIPS: So, you're saying no matter what, try anything. You're saying even though this is such a massive disaster, even if it can help one little area, it's worth it?

NYE: Maybe somebody will have a new idea. These centripetal (ph) things sound cool. When I worked in oil spills with skimming boats and I see the helicopter pictures of this area, I see a lot of them still at work. We had a conveyor belt where the oil would stick to this special urethane foam and you just suck up the oil. But when the oil is coming out this fast, I mean, you're getting an Exxon Valdez worth of oil every couple of days --

PHILLIPS: What about Louisiana governor, Bobby Jindal, you know, he's testing this device that's basically like a vacuum that sucks up water out to the surface and then goes to a nearby barge. What do you think about his idea?

NYE: That's great. Where do you get such a thing, from giantvacuumco.com? I mean, the scale of it, this guy in the picture has what looks to me to be a four-inch diameter pipe. You're not going to get 15,000 or 19,000 barrels of oil a day through such a thing, unless you have a lot of them. And this is all very reasonable, and perhaps, next time, there's a giant oil spill.

We will have more of this equipment available. Just bear in mind that guys at British petroleum, people at British petroleum, have to fabricate this new thing, whatever it is, this cap, this cutter, this diamond blade, whatever it is. They have to build those things as they go because the preventer that was supposed to prevent these failures didn't prevent anything. So, we're suddenly in the midst of a very, very serious flow of oil.

PHILLIPS: It's just so hard to, you know, even imagine OK, at this point in time, it will be solved because it's just --

NYE: We'll solve it. People will solve this problem. It's just we can all go on line now and we're looking at the flow of oil. You know what they ought to do, they ought to blank. Many people are right. It's just that fabricating a new device to capture this kind of flow takes days. And the first one, you know, weighed about 100 tons. And it was literally -- it froze up in the top, and then I think it was literally blown sideways by the flow of oil. So, then oil would come out underneath it. I mean, the thing would have to weigh about 2,600 tons. That's a lot.

PHILLIPS: Oh, we're going to keep all of the ideas. Yes, it is. And we're going to track all the devices. Bill Nye, good talking to you this morning. Thank you so much.

NYE: Thank you. Good morning. PHILLIPS: A vigil with the pope. Thousands of priests gather in Rome to hear his message. Will there be words of apology for the sex scandal rock in the Catholic Church. We're going live to Rome.

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PHILLIPS: The Catholics call it the "Year of the Priest", but for Pope Benedict XVI, it's been a year of crisis over how he handled a global sex abuse scandal. You may remember last March there were questions over the Pope's personal role in several sex scandals when he was Archbishop in his native Germany.

And just a couple of weeks after Easter Sunday in April, the Pontiff traveled to Malta where he met with a group of sex abuse victims and publicly expressed his, quote, "Shame and sorrow for their suffering". Still though, no direct apology.

Now today, thousands of priests have gathered in Rome to hear from the Pope once again. So here's what the world wants to know. Will this be the moment that the Pope finally makes a direct apology for the church's sex scandals?

CNN's Paula Newton is there -- Paula.

PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: And hello Kyra, well certainly a lot of the survivors of those scandals really want there to be a categorical apology. They say that will be the starting point to a lot of healing.

But you know, you mentioned those priests, 15,000 of them now in Rome for this event. This was the year of the priests ironically, Kyra. And really it's been overshadowed by the irony of it, that this is a profession of vocation now under scrutiny.

I spoke with Father James Dieters from Illinois about whether or not an apology, a categorical one, from the Pope would help. Take a listen.

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REV. JAMES DIETERS, DIOCESE OF BELLEVILLE, ILLINOIS: Nothing can really take that pain away, so the Pope could say ten more apologies but the church also wants to say -- but I know that can't take your pain away as a sexually-abused person. And that's what we're most sorry for. And that's where the Pope has turned to we as a church have to confess our own sins.

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NEWTON: You know many of the survivors say, look, if the church wants to move on as much as they -- they want to believe someone like Father Dieters, they are saying, look, that categorical apology has to happen. We have to hear it bluntly. Then there needs to be actions to reform the priesthood.

Kyra, that's not why these priests are here. They are here for spiritual rejuvenation and a lot of them believe that it's time for the church and for them to move on -- Kyra.

PHILLIPS: Well be listening. Paula Newton thanks.

Did FBI agents let a suspected killer out of their grasp only to allow him to kill again? Joran Van Der Sloot left the country after an FBI sting only to be charged with another murder in Peru. A former FBI special agent defends the agency's actions.

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PHILLIPS: It's hard to believe sweet little Dorothy would be 88 if she were alive today. You see her here, of course, in the classic "The Wizard of Oz" Francis Gum, came into this world on this date in 1922 in Grand Rapids, Minnesota. Of course little Miss Gum became the legendary Judy Garland.

So can we talk for a minute about Gary Coleman and those disgraceful death bed pictures of him? If you want to see them they're on "Globe" magazine's Web site. We're not going to show them to you but we've seen them and Coleman is hooked up to a machine and his ex-wife posing right next to him.

Sick of the "Globe" to pay $10,000 for the pictures it's sick of whomever sold them and profited from a tragic death. It's not clear just who sold those pictures. The executor of Coleman's estate says the ex-wife Shannon Price did it. Her spokesman is not denying it and admits she needs the money.

Well, if this woman had the power to tell doctors to pull the plug, surely she could tell a photographer to pull the film out of the camera or better, get the hell out of the room. As Todd Bridges said in a Tweet, quote, "I hope someone burns in hell for this one."

I want to know what you think. Light up that blog, CNN.com/Kyra.

You know, Gary Coleman couldn't escape the tabloids even in death. You know what? We refuse to remember him by those last days too. We're going to remember him as the star kid who made us laugh every week and by his catch phrase that we're still saying today.

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GARY COLEMAN, ACTOR: What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about, Willis?

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JAY LENO, NBC TALK SHOW HOST: Steve Jobs announced the new iPhone4 this week. This phone features video calling -- it's unbelievable -- high-definition movie editing and they have a new app you can actually use to track your growing brain tumor.

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PHILLIPS: Well, it's a down side of being the first to get a new gadget, kinks that need to be worked out. And if you have an iPad some of your personal info might be exposed thanks to a security breach. Some rich, famous and powerful folks got caught in it, too.

Josh Levs here to break it down for us. So Josh, what exactly happened?

JOSH LEVS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Not the kind of news anyone wants to hear, is it?

People are talking about the great iPad security breach now; some describing it as huge. Let me talk you through the basic idea about what happened here.

It's been reported by a Web site gawker.com and the basic idea here is that there's a Web site out there that takes a look to see if there are major security flaws in any of these products and they found a pretty big one in the iPad.

Take a look at just a few of the people who apparently had their information breached. These are just some among what could be 114,000 people, some of the first owners of the iPad. They say Diane Sawyer was one of them. Harvey Weinstein of Weinstein Company was another one. Mayor Michael Bloomberg and they say could be 114,000 total.

Let's go to some nice video of iPads. I'm going to tell you all about it now. The first thing to know is that according to Gawker what was actually lost here was pretty much just e-mail addresses. E- mail addresses and an associated code that goes along with it and what happened is this agency Goatse Security, g-o-a-t-s-e, which pieces through online and checks out for security flaws.

What they found what then when they went to AT&T's Web site there was basically a script they could use. It involves a lot of technical complicated Internet jargon but they did something that any hacker out there could do. And they used something that was available on AT&T's Web site to end up with getting the e-mail addresses of a lot of the first people who owned the iPad.

And then Gawker went through that list, took a look at it for a while and they discovered that there were some big names on it.

Now I want to tell you that AT&T, which is what operates your service on your iPad 3g has this to say about it. They say this issue was escalated to the highest levels of the company and was corrected by Tuesday.

So they're saying as soon as they found out about it, they took a look at it and what they did was they went inside their Web site and removed that little piece of technology that could expose your e-mail address. Now, I posted more information for you about this up on my Facebook page, because you might want to know if it's one of yours, if it could affect you. It's up there; facebook.com/joshlevsCNN. We'll get it going at the blog and at Twitter for you, too.

You know what? Sometimes this happens with new technology. I will mention we haven't heard from Apple directly on this yet, but AT&T is the Web site where the information was available. Clearly, they're the first place who wanted to hear.

So Kyra, unfortunately, it's not shocking that the first few months after a big new product there would be security hole. That said it's the last thing anybody wants to see if you have an iPad.

PHILLIPS: Josh thanks.

LEVS: You got it.