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Coast Guard Wants Plan to Capture More Oil; Pres. Obama to Return to Gulf; Alvin Greene's Unusual Campaign; Weighing the Case Against Wayne Williams; Lost in the Flood; Pulling No Punches on Iran; Plea of Leniency for Shooter; Staying Connected with World Cup Match
Aired June 13, 2010 - 22:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: You have just seen the CNN documentary, "THE ATLANTA CHILD MURDERS." The man who prosecuted the case joins us with new insight on Wayne Williams.
The interview that's causing a stir in the blogosphere, and has many of you asking about the bizarre behavior of South Carolina's newest politician.
And we watched with horror. People in Iran killed before our very eyes. One year after a violent uprising, we look back with the man trying to bring smiles to Iranian faces.
By the end of this day, BP was ordered by the government to come up with a better plan. Soon, today will turn into tomorrow and so far nothing from the oil giant.
The biggest environmental catastrophe in U.S. history has been dragging on for 55 days now, and dragging the administration down with it. So the president will head back to the Gulf Coast in the morning for his fourth visit, and he's hoping BP has some good news for him.
The containment cap is catching some, but not much of the oil. And since learning that double the amount of the oil is gushing out than first thought, well, late today, BP, at the government's request, placed high-tech sensors at the site to begin gathering some accurate data.
We have team coverage for you tonight. Chris Lawrence is in New Orleans, following the developments from the scene. Dan Lothian is in southern Alabama, covering the president's visit. And our senior political editor, Mark Preston is in Washington tonight.
We start with Chris Lawrence. So, Chris, any word from BP about tonight's deadline?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Don. We just got off the phone with the joint information command, our team did. And what we're hearing is it is possible the Coast Guard admiral may have already received that letter, but we're told that BP would send that letter to him privately. And that once the Coast Guard has had a chance to process the information inside of it, they would then come out publicly to talk about what it says and how it may change the status.
We know that the Coast Guard is looking for two things. One, for BP to speed up the process. They got some things in the pipeline that will help contain more oil, but they're coming at the end of June, into July, into August. The Coast Guard wants a faster timeline, and they also want more of a backup plan, so when things go wrong, like the top kill procedure, there's a plan "B," or even a plan "C" to fall back on -- Don.
LEMON: Let's talk about those sensors -- those flow sensors that the government ordered BP to put on. What's going on with that? Why were they ordered, and why are we learning about this so late? It's day 55, after all, soon day 56.
LAWRENCE: Yes, it all has to do with the revised estimates that the scientists came up with just a couple days ago. They now put the daily gush of oil at anywhere from 900,000 gallons a day all the way up to 1.7 million. Well, that's a pretty large range. What the government then asked BP to do was then deploy some sensors down to the actual well to narrow that range, to get a better accurate independent assessment of what's coming out of there. And so what BP did today was send some remote-controlled submarines down, start to position some of those sensors in the containment cap itself.
I spoke with a BP official earlier today who said it is a very complex procedure. They're not sure if, how, exactly it will work. But they do say it's going to take at least a few days for that information to start coming in. You don't just plug it in and start getting readings immediately.
But what that will do is give the government a better idea of exactly how much oil is gushing out. Because, otherwise, when BP says we're containing or capturing 600,000, we've got a new system coming on this week that could contain another 400,000. You can't put those numbers in any context if you don't know how much is coming out. If you're containing 1 million and 1 million's coming out, you're looking pretty good. If more like 2 million gallons are gushing every day, you've got a long way to go.
LEMON: All right. Very well said. Thank you, Chris Lawrence. The president will be on the Gulf Coast for two days before heading back to Washington, and making a televised address about the disaster on Tuesday night. On Wednesday, he meets with senior BP officials when he's expected to press the company to set up a multi-billion dollar fund to pay for damages.
White House correspondent Dan Lothian is in Coden, Alabama, tonight, right at the mouth of Mobile Bay.
Tell us about this visit, Dan.
DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hello, Don. Well, you know, the president coming here to the gulf, his fourth trip, as you pointed out, but the first time that he has come to Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. So he lands in Mississippi. He'll get a briefing from Admiral Thad Allen, who is the government's point person for this disaster. He will also take part in a roundtable and get to meet with some local residents who have a lot of questions and concerns about this massive oil spill and how it impacts their lives.
And then we'll see the president do a couple of things that he hasn't done so far since this disaster began. First of all, he'll actually get out on the water. Not far from here, he will head over to an island on a ferry. In fact, it will take two ferry rides, a chance for the president to sort of assess the situation up close, and get that photo of the president fully engaged out on the water.
The second thing is, and we were talking about this earlier tonight, Don, is that ever since this disaster began, while the president has been making those trips into Louisiana, he has not spent a night. And there has been some criticism that the president needs to spend more time on the ground. So we will see that from the president. After he departs from Alabama, he heads to Pensacola, Florida, and that's where he'll spend the night before returning on Tuesday to the White House -- Don.
LEMON: Let's talk about this prime-time address, because, initially, the administration had said the president didn't plan on doing anything like it. Now the president has asked for 15 minutes from the networks so that he can address the nation live.
LOTHIAN: That's right. And I asked the senior administration official about that, because all indications were sort of in the middle of last week that there were no immediate plans to -- for the president to come out and make that address. But I was told by this official that the president really wanted to, after getting a chance to see what was going on in these three states, to return and tell Americans about what progress is being made and what are some of the challenges that still lie ahead. So that's what the president hopes to do. And he will do that less than 24 hours before then.
He will sit down and meet for the first time with BP executives - the chairman of the board, perhaps even the CEO of Bp. He will have some tough talks for these BP executives, in particular, pushing them to set up a fund so that claims for individuals and businesses will be able to paid out. That had been one big concern. So we expect the president to be tough on BP when he sits down with them -- Don.
LEMON: Dan Lothian in Alabama. Dan, thank you very much.
And a reminder, you can see President Obama's address to the nation regarding the oil spill tomorrow, Tuesday night -- excuse me, Tuesday night at 8:00 p.m. Eastern live right here on CNN.
A Red Cross official describes the ethnic violence now occurring in Kyrgyzstan as a humanitarian catastrophe. It is believed about 8,000 people have fled the fighting. More than 100 have been killed. More than 1,000 wounded. The conflict flared up after the government was overthrown in April. Kyrgyzstan is home to a U.S. military transport base that is vital for supplying troops in Afghanistan.
CNN's Nic Robertson and Matthew Chance will be live from the region beginning tomorrow morning on CNN. He's unemployed, facing felony charges and he's South Carolina's Democratic U.S. Senate candidate. A political upset by a candidate who can't get the support of his very own party leaders. My conversation with him, coming up.
Plus this --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he said, you want the real Wayne Williams, you've got him. I think all of us, the jury, understood that, yes.
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LEMON: He was the prosecutor who put Wayne Williams behind bars following the murders of more than two dozen Atlanta children.
If you just watched Soledad O'Brien's special on the murders, you'll want to hear more from Jack Mallard.
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LEMON: Last night, I did one of the strangest interviews of my career. Alvin Greene is the mystery candidate in South Carolina in that Senate race. He came out of nowhere to win the Democratic nomination to take on incumbent Republican Senator Jim DeMint. He's unemployed, he's charged with felony for supposedly showing pornographic images, and it seems like he barely campaigned. Some allege that he's mentally impaired. And accusations are flying that he was planted to throw a wrench into the election.
We spoke last night. Here's just some of that conversation. I want you to judge for yourself.
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LEMON: "The New York Times" ran a story saying that you were a plant by the Republican Party. What do you say?
ALVIN GREENE (D), SOUTH CAROLINA SENATE CANDIDATE (via telephone): No. I've always been a Democrat, and I am the best candidate for United States Senate in South Carolina.
LEMON: Who paid the $10,000 to your -- for your campaign to run?
GREENE: It was my personal money from the Army.
LEMON: You told me about what your platform. You said jobs, education.
GREENE: And justice.
LEMON: And justice.
GREENE: Yes. LEMON: OK. So you're talking about the justice system.
GREENE: Yes.
LEMON: What about your own particular bout with the justice system. What do you say to that? Did you commit a crime?
GREENE: My lawyer is dealing with that.
LEMON: Two lawmakers from your state have concerns that you may have some sort of mental impairment. What's your response to that?
GREENE: Who are those lawmakers?
LEMON: There are two in your state.
GREENE: Name them.
LEMON: Bakari Sellers and Todd Rutherford say that.
GREENE: Well, I say that back to them then.
LEMON: OK.
GREENE: They're the knuckleheads.
LEMON: Are you always this soft spoken? Are you OK right now?
GREENE: I'm fine.
LEMON: You're fine and you're --
GREENE: I'm OK.
LEMON: You are mentally sound, physically sound? You are not impaired by anything at this moment?
GREENE: No. I'm OK.
LEMON: No. Just what --
GREENE: I'm OK.
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LEMON: South Carolina Democrats are at a loss to explain Greene's primary win. Many of them definitely believe something is up here.
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CANDY CROWLEY, HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": Your nominee for the U.S. Senate, Alvin Greene, came out of nowhere. You think he's a Republican plant. He is calling now for the Democratic establishment to get behind him. That he, in fact, has been elected to be the nominee. Do you foresee yourself getting behind Mr. Greene?
REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D), SOUTH CAROLINA: No, I don't see myself getting behind Mr. Greene. The fact of the matter is, of course, Candy, I never said he was a Republican plant. I said he was someone's plant. And it turned up after the elections, we found out, as I said earlier, something untoward was going on.
Now all of a sudden, we see that Congressman Joe Wilson -- his campaign manager, was, in fact, managing the campaign of my primary opponent. I saw the patterns in this. I know a Democratic pattern, I know a Republican pattern, and I saw in the Democratic primary elephant dung all over the place. And so I knew something was wrong in that primary. And this result tells us that.
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LEMON: CNN's senior political editor, Mr. Mark Preston, joins us now from Washington. Mark, when I need a good chuckle or just to scratch my head, I just pick up the paper or I get on the Internet, and I read about South Carolina politics. It's unbelievable.
You know, getting back to Alvin Greene now, they can't yank him off the ballot, but how long can this go on? Clearly, something is going -- is up here.
MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: Yes. Well, look, this is an amazing political story. It really came out of nowhere. And just talking about South Carolina, very quickly, this is the state that gave us Lee Atwater, you know, who really was the king of dirty politics.
Look, we don't know, Don, if he is a plant, so to speak. I mean, it would seem that he isn't. How long can this go on? His 15 minutes of fame is going to continue to go on. But I will tell you this. I spoke to South Carolina Democrats tonight. Dick Harpootlian, a very well respected former Democratic Party chair offered up two possible solutions.
One, this gentleman, Mr. Greene, who, as you said earlier, was arrested for showing or allegedly showing pornography to an underage girl, he asked for a public defender. So we might see some kind of questioning of Mr. Greene by the judicial system about how did he come up with the $10,400 to actually qualify for the election, if he needed a public defender. That's one.
Two, you might see some kind of civil action or some kind of action taken by Democrats themselves to go forward and really try to find out if they can get him, compel him to find out where the money is.
I did speak to Carol Fowler, the Democratic Party chairwoman. She hopes that he just leaves the race. This is terribly embarrassing. And one more thing, we might see his opponent, Don, in this primary, the gentleman who lost to him, Vic Rawl, might contest the election. So still a lot more unfolding in this story. LEMON: Yes. It's a little odd that someone who has no political history, nothing politically on his resume, who is unemployed, all of a sudden shows up out of nowhere, $10,000 in a cashier's check and then he wins. So that's a -- but how realistic, though, is that he's a plant? Because if he's a plant, wouldn't they pick a candidate who -- a stronger candidate?
PRESTON: You know, I think Jim Clyburn said it right. That he never said it was a Republican plant. I mean, look, South Carolina really is great for its intrigue and its dirty politics, but it would be insane for Jim DeMint to try to plant somebody in this primary. He is clearly going to win in November. That's what we all think. That's what the polls all show us.
Jim DeMint wouldn't need Alvin Greene in there to cause problems in the Democratic Party. Having said that, Republicans might want to cause problems for the Democrats down there, maybe just for a lark or for some fun. And if that's the case, they've had some fun.
LEMON: Let's move forward to Tuesday. The president going down. He's got some issues when it comes to this disaster in the Gulf.
PRESTON: Yes, he does. Look, if you look at the latest Gallup poll, Don, 46 percent of Americans think that he is handling the Gulf crisis poorly. Only 40 percent think that he's handling it in a good way. He is going to go down there, spend a couple of days, as Dan said, from down there in Alabama. The fact is, Mr. Obama needs to spend at least a night down there to really try to feel their pain, as we talk about it in politics. Bill Clinton was very good at that.
The fact is, he will come back. He will give that speech from the oval office. Again, another sign from this administration that they're trying to put out to this nation, as well as the world, Don, that they're taking this very seriously.
LEMON: And Mark Preston, he will speak to the nation on Tuesday night at 8:00 p.m. on CNN. You can see it here.
Thank you, Mark Preston. We appreciate it.
PRESTON: Thanks, Don.
LEMON: The death toll rises again from flash flooding at an Arkansas campground and relatives are trying to come to grips with the loss of their loved ones.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And we heard them say there was ten people killed, and then the next time she said there was 12, and then she said there was 14, and that's all we knew. We kept thinking, where are our babies?
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LEMON: Also, an accused killer about to be sentenced has a community rallying around him, even the victim's widow.
And don't just sit there. We want you to be a part of our conversation tonight. Make sure you check us out on Twitter and on Facebook. Send us a message there, and check out my blog at CNN.com/Don.
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LEMON: You may have seen Soledad O'Brien's documentary. "THE ATLANTA CHILD MURDERS," which aired earlier this evening, with her exclusive interview with convicted murderer, Wayne Williams.
Williams was linked to more than two dozen murders over a two- year period, 30 years ago. Most of them African-American children, abducted from the streets. He was convicted in two of the cases and is serving two life sentences.
Jack Mallard, the lead prosecutor in the Williams case, has written a book, "The Atlanta Child Murders: The Night Stalker." I asked him while Williams was only prosecuted for two of the murders.
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JACK MALLARD, FMR. FULTON CO. ASST. D.A.: We had more evidence against those two that were charged, Cater and Payne. We had to look at it from a legal viewpoint. Would the convictions stand up on appeal? Because if we charged in say 10 or 15 or 20 even, and I believe the jury may have convicted on that many, still, if there is not enough evidence from a legal viewpoint, then the appellate court would overturn it.
LEMON: So you think the jury would have convicted on 28?
MALLARD: Yes.
LEMON: You think they would have.
MALLARD: No. Not on 28.
LEMON: Yes.
MALLARD: I said as many as 15 or 20.
LEMON: As many as 15 or 20.
MALLARD: Yes.
LEMON: But people want to know, why were they never -- they weren't dropped.
MALLARD: No.
LEMON: You said they just weren't brought to trial.
MALLARD: That's right.
LEMON: And just because you didn't feel -- you felt the evidence was stronger on the two adults.
MALLARD: Yes. A prosecutor has to look at it not only from a viewpoint of let's solve the case. And I believe a jury will convict so let's indict and try him. We have to look at it down the road five years, ten years, when it is in the appellate court. Will the evidence sustained that conviction from a legal viewpoint when it is in the appellate courts? And we felt like at that time there was not enough sufficient evidence to charge, convict and keep the conviction down the line.
LEMON: When you were watching that interview, did it seem like the same man that you came across during questioning back in the '80s? 1982?
MALLARD: Yes. Yes. He hasn't changed. He hasn't changed. He was on the stand three days, and he was a wily character. Smart, articulate the first two days and he controlled himself the third day. He went into a tantrum.
LEMON: I want to go into that. Because he -- even he talked about it. There was a part during cross-examination where he had an outburst, and you believe that that was one of the things that convicted him was this outburst.
He talked about it in our interview. And I want to show you how he characterized it, and then we'll talk about it.
MALLARD: All right.
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WAYNE WILLIAMS, SERVING TWO LIFE TERMS: I was probably my own worst enemy. I was an arrogant buzz-headed idiot at the time. And I played right into these people's hands. I could see almost the shock in the juror's faces as if they said, my god, is this the same Wayne that was up here yesterday? I could see that.
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LEMON: How important was that moment in his conviction?
MALLARD: Everybody thinks that the Williams as a witness lost the case for him. The evidence lost the case for him. That was an important moment, however. The examination and how a defendant does on a stand is very important to a jury because they've got to have enough evidence to convict him. But he helped convict him.
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LEMON: And here's a reminder for you. You can still vote on whether you think Williams is guilty, innocent, or the case was not proven, either way. Just go to CNN.com/atlantachildmurders.
So far, since the voting started, 68 percent of you say he is guilty. 5 percent say he is innocent. And 27 percent say the case was not proven. We want to turn now to Iran's political turmoil, into something that's laughing -- that some people want to laugh about. Check this out.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A Middle Eastern man, you end up showing up around this thing. You start feeling guilty, man. I'm sure. I was watching CNN, I was like, am I part of this plot?
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LEMON: Comedian Maz Jobrani shares his take on things.
And we'll tell you a way for World Cup fans to get into the game like never before.
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LEMON: The death toll rose to 19 today from the flash floods in Arkansas. And authorities now say they know for sure that one person is still missing, though there could be more out there.
The floodwaters hit a campground so fast many had no time to escape. Our Casey Wian spoke with one of the families dealing with unbelievable loss.
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CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): 7-year-old Kiley (ph) Sullivan was fresh out of first grade and excited to be going on a camping trip.
JULES SULLIVAN, FLOOD VICTIM'S GREAT GRANDFATHER: She loved people. That was her main thing. She never met a stranger.
BARBARA SULLIVAN, FLOOD VICTIM'S GREAT GRANDMOTHER: The heart that Kiley had was just so full of life, and she just loved things. But she was so kind. She was just a kind child.
WIAN: But Kiley's trip to Camp Albert Pike with her mother, relatives, and friends would turn deadly as Friday's flash floodwaters raged. Her great grandparents heard about the flood and rushed to the area.
B. SULLIVAN: All that we knew on the way up there was the information that we would hear on the radio. And we heard them say there was ten people killed. And then the next time, she said there was 12. And then she said there was 14. And that's all we knew. We kept thinking, where are our babies?
J. SULLIVAN: That's when we first heard that Kiley and Gabriel and Julie didn't make it. That was our first time we heard that.
WIAN: And what was that like?
J. SULLIVAN: Oh, my God. Worst thing ever. Worst thing I've ever heard.
B. SULLIVAN: This is Kiley's playroom. So I don't see how I can ever move these things, because I would sit here with her when she put them here and she would, you know, say, Barbara, will you come and play with me. She always called me Barbara. That's all she's ever called me. And I -- this is just where she loved to be when she was here. And I loved for her to be here. She just has left lots of precious memories for us.
J. SULLIVAN: I don't believe God took Kiley. I believe an accident happened, and I believe, you know, that she is in heaven now.
WIAN: The Sullivans had planned to take Kiley to church Sunday. Now they are preparing for a funeral Tuesday.
Casey Wian, CNN, Texarkana, Texas.
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LEMON: All right, Casey.
Mixed messages from the housing market and more people are quitting their jobs. That last one is actually a good thing. Patricia Woo explains in this week's "Getting Down to Business."
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PATRICIA WOO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's a mixed bag for the housing sector in this still-unstable economy. Bank repossessions hit a record monthly high in May with lenders taking back more than 93,000 properties. But a third fewer people received foreclosure notices compared to a month earlier, according to RealtyTrac. We'll get the latest housing figures on Wednesday.
Plus, one unusual sign of economic recovery. There are more people quitting their jobs. According to a government report, more Americans opted to leave their jobs in the past three months than were laid off. That's welcome news after 15 straight months of lay offs topping voluntary departures. Watch for another unemployment report on Thursday.
And finally, a fast food giant is giving money back to some of its customers. McDonalds will pay $3 for every souvenir Shrek glass returned to its restaurants. The glasses were recalled offered concerns that a potentially dangerous metal used in the paint could come off on kids' hands. That's this week's "Getting Down to Business."
Patricia Woo, CNN, New York.
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LEMON: An important one-year anniversary of a contested election in Iran. But amid all the seriousness, Iranians still can find some humor.
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MAZ JOBRANI, COMEDIAN: Iran is always in the news. Like, whether it's like the nuclear issue or the elections or whatever, we're like the Paris Hilton of countries.
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LEMON: Comedian Maz Jobrani uses that humor to educate others. He joins me, next.
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LEMON: In our "What Matters" segment tonight, opposition leaders say they are not giving up the fight against Iran's government. But they called off large-scale protests this weekend, saying they did not want bloodshed. Saturday marked the one-year anniversary of the controversial elections which returned President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to power. There were some protests and arrests across Iran, but it was like nothing, nothing like what happened a year ago when anti- government demonstrators flooded the streets and clashed with security forces.
Maz Jobrani joins me now. He is here in Atlanta. He is a founding member of the Axis of Evil Comedy Tour. He's got a pretty unique perspective on Iran.
So what's your take on what's happening now? I know that you're in town, you joke about it. It's part of your routine. And you think that you can make people smile, put some smiles back on faces. And I guess find some common ground through comedy.
MAZ JOBRANI, MEMBER AXIS OF EVIL COMEDY TOUR: Well, I think part of the think what you find in comedy is making fun of some of the leadership and the things that are said that come out of Iran. I would say that Iran is always in the news, like, whether it's like the nuclear issue, or the elections, or whatever, we're like the Paris Hilton of countries, you know?
So, I don't know if you heard about this, but this is true. There was a Muslim cleric in Iran who came out and said that women in short dresses can cause earthquake. So, my take on that was maybe he was mistranslated. Maybe he's trying to say that women in short dresses rock this world, you know? They just got lost in translation, you know? So, that's where you find the comedy.
LEMON: I love it. I love people -- you know, I was watching it. I saw this thing on CBS Sunday morning for the comedian Joan Rivers. And she said, you know, nothing is off limits. Nothing is off limits.
JOBRANI: Yes. Yes.
LEMON: And, you know, we find ourselves laughing about things that we never thought we'd laugh about. And it actually helps us in the process. I think Joy Behar says the same thing.
JOBRANI: Well, absolutely. And I think, one of the things is like, for me, what's off limits, I don't like to go after the underdog. I don't have to ever like make fun of the victim, or anyone who's like handicapped or anything like that. For me, they're off limit.
I think -- I think the job of a comedian a lot of times is to expose the hypocrisy or go after things that people don't think about, for example, in Times Square, that guy who tried to blowup the car bomb, the Pakistani dude, and then the Pakistani-Taliban took credit for the failed bombing. And my question was: Why would you take credit for a failed bombing, right? I mean, like -- you know, we just wanted to say, we tried, you know? It's the thought that counts. Win some, lose some, you know?
So, that's the kind of stuff you find, you know? And actually I happen to be in Times Square that night doing shows at Carolines, and I actually happen to be in Austin when the white guy flew his airplane into the building. I say white guy because of the Middle Eastern --
LEMON: You happen to be in all of these places?
JOBRANI: I happened to be in all these places, yes.
LEMON: Where's -- you have a security guard?
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JOBRANI: I know. As a Middle Eastern man you end up showing up around these things. You start feeling guilty. I swear. I was watching CNN, I was like, am I part of this plot, you know?
LEMON: So, listen, let's pull it back and talk about -- and talk about Iran.
JOBRANI: Yes.
LEMON: What have you learned through the comedy there and going out from city to city and club to club? Are you educating people about what's going on through your comedy?
JOBRANI: Well, I hope so. One of the things that I do with my standup is to show American and Westerners that not all Iranians are bad, like you would see in the news and -- well, not in the news. Sorry. You guys do a good job. Because you had Reza too. You had Reza and now you have me. You have back-to-back Iranians doing positive things.
But, you know, obviously, our image is not that good. The hostage situation to the movie "Not Without My Daughter," to all this stuff. Ahmadinejad all the time. I mean, he has offended everybody. Like I'm waiting for him to come out and say, unicorns are gay. You know, just to see if you can find some unicorn lovers. I mean, he's had been, you know --
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LEMON: Listen, there are a lot more Iranian people working at CNN than Reza and you in the building.
JOBRANI: I know.
LEMON: We have a lot of people.
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JOBRANI: I know you're not hiring, but I appreciate it.
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LEMON: But, listen, one year later, though -- one year later, is the country better off, do you think?
JOBRANI: You know, what I think -- what I see and what I hear is that there's obviously still a movement going on and it's -- there's heart to it and there's a lot of young people that want change. And I think a lot of us agree that we don't want any more killing. We don't want any more fighting. I personally always say, evolution as opposed to revolution.
LEMON: Right.
JOBRANI: So hopefully, the change continues to happen. I mean, the one thing that is good news that came out this weekend was that I guess nobody was killed.
LEMON: Yes.
JOBRANI: But at the same time, we do want to see more freedoms. You know, there's reporters that have left the country because they are not allowed to report.
LEMON: And I've got to joke, too. Because I've got so much e- mail, make sure you cover Iran. Make sure you cover Iran. I just want to e-mail everyone back and say, stop blasting my e-mail, I'm not going to cover it because --
JOBRANI: And you're not even Iranian. You should see the stuff I get, man.
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Maz, why are you not talking about this situation? Maz, why were you not in "The Prince of Persian"? You're Persian. I'm like I know.
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LEMON: Maz Jobrani, everyone.
You know, some call it vigilante justice, others say it is the result of years of abuse.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The police weren't stopping this man, and Aaron just felt like he needs to be stopped.
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LEMON: Now a community is standing behind an accused killer, including the victim's family.
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LEMON: In tonight's "State of our Nation," tomorrow there will be a hearing that could put Aaron Vargas behind bars for up to ten years. Vargas pleaded no contest to shooting this man to death, Darrel McNeal. Vargas says McNeal molested him and stalked him for almost two decades. Since then, many others say they, too, were molested by McNeal. And now thousands of others are asking that Vargas receive no person time. That is a plea Vargas' sister is leading.
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MINDY GALLIANI, AARON VARGAS' SISTER: Darrel McNeal was coming around and offering to baby sit Aaron's new daughter, bringing diapers, asking to see her, so Aaron felt that his child was in danger. Aaron knew that Darrel was still raping other kids in the community, and he had learned about that in the days prior to the shooting. So I think it was just a lot of events that just transpired and it just -- he hit his breaking point, is what happened. He said, enough is enough.
LEMON: So it wasn't years that had passed since this happened, and Aaron felt that he had to do something or that other people would fall victim to this man.
GALLIANI: No. No, it's not a case at all where years had passed and he decided, well, I want to go and get revenge on this guy for molesting me. That's not the case at all. The abuse, it never ended. And the police weren't stopping this man, and Aaron just felt like, he needs to be stopped. But Aaron didn't go there with the intention of firing the gun that night, though. He just wanted to warn him. And he brought the gun to tell him, you know, listen, I'm serious. You're going to stop raping children.
LEMON: So, Mindy, here's a concern. People are afraid that other victims may do the same to their molesters if Aaron gets a light sentence or if he gets off in any way.
GALLIANI: Well, I talked to victims from all over the world and none of them conveyed to me that they want to go out and kill their abuser. They just -- they want to be left alone. They want their abusers to be prosecuted, and they just want to live a life and try and heal.
And people who say that if Aaron gets off easy, that that will just, you know, send a message that it's OK for victims to go out and kill their abuser, they're just completely missing the whole point of this case. Because that's not how the victims feel.
LEMON: So legally, are you speaking to attorneys there? Can you give us some idea of your brother's chances?
GALLIANI: Well, Aaron, we did hire an attorney to defend Aaron, and he could get anywhere from probation to ten years in prison. And I'm just hoping that the judge will do the right thing and that he will see the truth in this. And also, that the judge will ignore the sheriff's department and the probation department, who have made outrageous accusations by saying that the abuse was a consensual relationship and that the shooting was some kind of a lover's quarrel. It's just -- it's outrageous, to me.
LEMON: How much has it played into the wife of the man that he killed is saying, is asking for leniency?
GALLIANI: I think that has a big effect. You know, that the wife is stepping forward and saying that she knows Aaron and she loves him.
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LEMON: Vargas' sister says police received at least three reports about Darrel McNeal, and she doesn't know why he was never arrested.
A look at the week ahead. That is coming up next.
And game on. The new high-tech toys that will turn you into the ultimate World Cup fan.
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LEMON: Let's check the stories now you'll be hearing about in the week ahead, from the Pentagon to Wall Street to Hollywood. We start tonight at the White House.
ED HENRY, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: I'm Ed Henry at the White House, where this week the oil spill catastrophe will yet again be front and center for the president. On Monday and Tuesday, he's going back to the Gulf region for the fourth time. What's different this time is the fact that he's going to Florida, Alabama, and Mississippi. Previously, he's only gone to Louisiana. And then on Wednesday, he has his first face-to-face meeting with Tony Hayward and other BP officials right here in Washington.
BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: I'm Barbara Starr at the Pentagon. General David Petraeus testifies before the Senate this week on the war in Afghanistan and the news is going to be tough. More than 1,000 U.S. troops have now died in the war. Last month, 400 U.S. troops were wounded. General Stanley McChrystal says the offensive in Kandahar in southern Afghanistan is going to take longer than anybody expected. Some Afghans in the region just do not want to see another round of fighting.
POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM: A lot ahead this week for Wall Street. Investors around the world will watch as BP's CEO and other company executives testify in front of Congress on that "Deepwater Horizon" disaster. Also ahead, House and Senate leaders will continue to hash out a final Wall Street reform bill. And the latest housing data will be released.
We'll get a better look at whether that sector is recovering or whether it's not.
The market, of course, will be watching it all. We'll track it for you on CNN Money.
A.J. HAMMER, CNN HEADLINE NEWS CORRESPONDENT: I'm "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT's" A.J. Hammer. Here's what we're watching this week. The court battle over Gary Coleman's estate is really heating up. His ex- wife, Shannon Price, is at war.
And the trial of Conrad Murray, that's Michael Jackson's doctor, that starts on Monday. He of course is charged with involuntary manslaughter.
It's big breaking news on "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT." We're live at 5:00 p.m. Eastern, and we are still TV's most provocative entertainment news show at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific on HLN.
LEMON: All right, thanks, guys.
So that is what's happening domestically, and there's much, much more going on overseas, besides the World Cup, right? Azadeh Ansari?
AZADEH ANSARI, CNN INTERNATIONAL DESK: Absolutely.
LEMON: There's unrest. We've been talking about this in Kyrgyzstan.
ANSARI: Right. So right now, 97 people have been killed, over 700 people have been wounded, where you have ethnic violence spreading across southern Kyrgyzstan, and this is a situation we're going to be following very closely, moving into next week.
LEMON: All right. So from there, I guess, why don't we go ahead to the UK, right?
Sunday, bloody Sunday, what's that?
ANSARI: Well, you know, the U2 song?
LEMON: Yes.
ANSARI: "Sunday, Bloody Sunday?" Well, this is the incident that they're referring to. What started out as a Civil Rights movement 38 years ago, resulted in British paramilitary, actually troopers opening fire on a group of marchers, killing 13 people. So this report will tell us what happened.
LEMON: All right. Thank you very much. And then we're going to get to -- we're going to go down to South Africa in just a little bit and we're going to talk about the World Cup. ANSARI: OK.
LEMON: Azadeh Ansari, thank you very much for that. And the reason I say that is because, attention, World Cup soccer fans, if you thought watching it on 3D was cool, you haven't seen anything yet. The latest high-tech toys, coming up next.
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LEMON: All right. In case you've been living under a rock, you know team USA survived its World Cup opener with a draw against England. Now the Americans are looking ahead to their next match, that's against Sylvania on Friday. But there's lots of other action between now and then.
And tech whiz Katie Linendoll tells us why you don't have to miss a minute of it.
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KATIE LINENDOLL, TECH EXPERT: Plenty of ways to stay in touch. And if you are that early adopter with the 3-D TV, you are in luck, because 25 of the 64 games are going to be streaming on ESPN 3-D. So you get fully immersed technology there. But also another non- traditional way for TV to stay in touch, if you're somebody that's traveling, if you're somebody that's always on the go, I like to call this, Don, my new BFF.
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It's Flow TVT. And what it is, it is the portable subscription unit, and it allows you to watch all those 64 matches right on this little guy right here. Pretty cool.
LEMON: Yes. I looked at that. I've seen it like at Best Buy and stuff. But I'm not sure -- I want something that works on my iPhone or on my iPad. I don't -- I haven't -- I think Sling does, but I haven't really figured that out. You said if you are an early adapter of 3-D TV, then you are really cool, also you're probably wealthy, because it is very expensive, right?
LINENDOLL: Exactly. And a lot of people are asking me can we go to bars and watch it in 3-D? And I'm like, listen, it is $200 for the glasses. They're proprietary. They're not going to give people that are drinking a pair of $200 glasses. You are not going to be able to find it in any pub, OK. Just get over it.
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LEMON: Unless you have those little crazy paper ones that you get from the movie. OK.
LINENDOLL: Exactly.
LEMON: What about staying connected online to the World Cup, Katie? LINENDOLL: Yes, a ton of ways to stay connected online. And can I just say, too, it warms my heart to know that something other than Justin Bieber is trending heavily on Twitter? Thank you, World Cup.
I have plenty of ways --
LEMON: Listen, I have Bieber fever. Don't talk about Bieber. I like that kid.
LINENDOLL: No, dude. That's an offline conversation.
LEMON: All right.
LINENDOLL: We will talk.
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OK. Plenty of ways to stay in touch online. And let me tell that you ESPN3.com will be streaming 54 of the 64 matches.
Also, Univision, if you know a little Spanish, they will have 64 matches online. But also, follow us too at CNN.com/Twitterbuzz. There's a compilation of all these -- all the most popular tweets, and you can click on them. You can get very interactive. And also Twitter has their own World Cup site, where you can choose any team, follow the schedule, get bios and, of course, follow those live tweets as well.
And it is interesting, too, Spain, Brazil, Mexico, Germany, Argentina, their coaches have banned them for social networking. So you might be saying how popular is Twitter during the World Cup? It's so popular, that these players can't even access it.
LEMON: Yes. You know, I joke about the World Cup and people send me hate e-mail. It's ridiculous.
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And by the way, do you know why I like Justin Bieber? Every time he is on a TV show, he will hit on the woman, no matter how old she is. Beyonce --
LINENDOLL: That's totally true.
LEMON: -- Barbara Walters. It's hilarious to watch him do that.
LINENDOLL: I like how our World Cup segment has turned into a Justin Bieber segment.
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LEMON: That's why we're friends.
LINENDOLL: Very classy.
LEMON: Hey, listen, Katie, good to see you again. Hopefully I'll see you next weekend.
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LINENDOLL: Wait, Don, I've got show you one app.
LEMON: What is that? Is that a screen?
LINENDOLL: If we have learned one thing about a World Cup, it's how annoying the horns are. So download your vuvuzelas. It's a horn. You can just download this app for free, and this annoy everyone in the room. Just keep hitting it.
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LEMON: Our thanks to Katie Linendoll.
Hey, we have some breaking news to tell you about as we close our broadcast tonight. CNN affiliate WTVR reporting tonight that legendary country music singer and noted businessman, Jimmy Dean, has died. He died today at his home in Virginia. His 1961 hit "Big Bad John" was number one on billboards pop charts, and won him a Grammy. He was a regular headliner in Las Vegas in the Reno in the 1960s and was named to the Country Music Hall of Fame just this past February. Again he was 81 years old. And you might remember him as the founder of Jimmy Dean Sausage, and of course, he starred in those commercials. Jimmy Dean, dead at the age of 81 years old. That is according to our affiliate WTVR.
I'm Don Lemon. Thank you for joining us this week. And I'll see you back here next weekend. Make sure you have a great week, and thanks for watching, everyone. Good night.
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