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Dick Cheney Hospitalized After Feeling Ill; A Weekend of Money Summits; Labeling Illegal Immigrants; Tropical Storm Alex

Aired June 26, 2010 - 11:00   ET

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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning to you all. And welcome to the CNN SATURDAY MORNING. We're live right now in New Orleans, 10:00 a.m. where I stand. I'm glad you could be here with us. I'm T.J. Holmes.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: It's 7:00 a.m. where I sit. I'm Kate Bolduan here in Atlanta -- T.J.

HOLMES: Yes and all eyes Kate today here on a lot or radar, a lot of maps because people are concerned about this. A tropical storm, the first named storm of the Atlantic Hurricane Season; it was declared the first named storm just a few hours ago. There is a chance it could have some kind of impact on the oil spill. We just don't know what kind of an impact just yet.

BOLDUAN: And averting another financial meltdown, a major focus at a summit in Canada going on today, this weekend. President Obama is laying out his ideas but are other countries listening? We'll have a live report.

And a health scare for former Vice President Dick Cheney, he's in the hospital for tests.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM this Saturday morning, June 26th.

HOLMES: All right. Dick Cheney's condition there, we've been taking a close look at this. Of course the former Vice President has been admitted to the hospital. He was admitted yesterday, falling ill.

CNN's Sandra Endo is live at George Washington University Hospital. Sandra, everybody is concerned certainly about the health but this is a guy who had a long history of specifically health problems, several heart attacks.

SANDRA ENDO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, T.J. and from this morning we don't know much more information than what we learned yesterday. All we know is that yesterday through a spokesman that he was admitted at the hospital because he was complaining he wasn't feeling well.

And that's when doctors advised him to stay through the weekend to get more tests. We don't know if it was heart related at all but as you mentioned, T.J., there is a long history here for the former vice president of having heart-related problems.

He has suffered many heart attacks since he was 37 years old and the most recent one was in February, just this year. He suffered a mild heart attack, underwent some tests, and is ok. And we know that in 1988 he underwent a quadruple bypass surgery and since then several other surgeries to open up some arteries and he is fitted with a very special pacemaker, which seems to have helped some of his problems in recent years.

But again, a health scare for the former vice president. He is here at the George Washington University Hospital through the weekend to undergo some tests -- T.J.

HOLMES: All right. Sandra Endo for us, keeping an eye on what's happening with the former Vice President. Sandra, thank you so much -- Kate.

BOLDUAN: Thanks, T.J.

Leaders from the world's richest nations are talking money this weekend and how to help, and also how to help other countries. The G- 8 summit began yesterday. The G-20 summit gets under way today, both in and around Toronto, Canada.

And that's where our chief business correspondent Ali Velshi is. Welcome back, Ali and thanks again for joining us. So tell me, kind of net-net what needs to be accomplished or what could be accomplished here that could leave the world's leaders walking away from this saying, ah, success?

AL VELSHI, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, two conferences, as you said the G-8 about two hours from here, that's going on right now and that is -- that's been going on since the '70s of the world's major industrialized powers. Then there's the G-20 that will be here in Toronto behind me starting later today and tomorrow.

Largely, there -- a lot of these are technical conferences. They're finance ministers and central bankers and a lot of things they've been working on for a long time. And now they have the face- to-face agreements on. What are the big, big, big issues though? The direction that countries are going to take with respect to getting out of this economic crisis.

So do they go the way the U.S. is going, continuing to have government putting lots and lots of money into the economy until consumers are strong enough to replace the spending that they used to contribute? Or do they go the European direction and that is greater austerity, higher taxes, budget cut backs and things like that? Those are the big discussions that are taking place.

On top of that, financial reform, President Obama comes here after Congress got -- got its act together and presented a financial reform package that will probably be passed next week. A lot of discussions about financial reform, what role should -- how should banks be governed around the world? What we learned over the last year and a half, Kate, is that if you do, if you follow different rules for financial services around the world you could get into trouble so we realize how intertwined we all are. I think the mark of success would be leaving here saying that the world is still prepared to coordinate its efforts with respect to getting out of this financial crisis.

That's probably in an over arching sense what you could call success out of this meeting.

BOLDUAN: Yes, so we'll have to listen to the nuances of how these world leaders are talking ...

VELSHI: Yes.

BOLDUAN: ... in these press conferences.

But another big thing that always comes with -- with these huge summits that bring together that world leaders are: protests. What are we ...

VELSHI: Yes.

BOLDUAN: ... what's going on with the protest? Are they expecting a big turnout? What have we got?

VESHI: Well, yes.

Well, today was supposed to be the day of the big protest. Yesterday there were some smaller protests that actually became a little hotter than we expected. There was some pushing and shoving with police, nothing overly serious.

But today was going to be the big protest. There's a perimeter set up behind me in the downtown corridor with a fence and the idea is that if you get too close to that fence you're likely to get arrested. Well, today the organizers have said they're calling for their -- their protesters to actually try and get to that fence, penetrate it, go over it. That is bound to cause some tension with -- with authorities and the bill for securing these two summits by the way, Kate, about a billion dollars.

It is raining and it has been raining all morning so we don't know whether that's going to put a damper on it but we're talking about protesters who might be busting into Toronto. We're definitely prepared for -- for some confrontation between authorities and protesters. We'll keep an eye on that through the course of the day.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely. There's always a little action both in the conferences and outside of them.

VELSHI: Yes.

BOLDUAN: Our chief business correspondent, Ali Velshi. Thanks so much for joining us all throughout the morning, Ali.

VELSHI: Ok.

BOLDUAN: See you later.

So one Republican governor is getting a lot of attention this morning for something she said. Our deputy political director Paul Steinhauser is keeping track of it all, all things political from Washington.

Paul, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is in the news yet again. Let's first listen to what she said about illegal immigrants coming into her state and then we'll talk about it.

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GOV. JAN BREWER (R), ARIZONA: We all know that the majority of the people that are coming here in Arizona and trespassing are now become drug mules. They're coming across our borders in huge numbers that the drug cartels have taken control of the immigration, illegal trespassing that we are seeing in the State of Arizona and that is coming through and going to all of America.

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BOLDUAN: What's been the reaction to this or potential fallout? Paul and what does this say about the political situation right now in Arizona?

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: A lot of buzz on this story as you can imagine, Kate. She made these comments yesterday to a local reporter as you could see she was right there on the street. She originally made these comments in a gubernatorial debate. She is running for a full term as Governor of Arizona and she made those comments at the debate recently.

A reporter in Arizona asked her about them yesterday and said do you have any factual claims here? She did mention after the sound we just played she added that most of these people are trying to come here to the United States, crossing the border illegally to find work but that they've become subject to these cartels.

Now, as you said, it's created quite a buzz. And there's been a lot of reaction. CNN reached out to the labor union representing about 20,000 border patrol agents and we spoke to T.J. Bonner of the National Border Patrol Council and he definitely said that it was clearly not the case, that her comments are, that undocumented immigrants are not being subjected or doing this because of drug cartels.

He said some of those claims by some illegal immigrants that are caught that they are being sent over by the cartels are not substantiated so they just don't have the proof to say that what she said, what Governor Brewer said, was true.

She put out a statement last night trying to clarify this but she basically stood by her original comments -- Kate. BOLDUAN: So while this is grabbing headlines and it begs the question of the larger issue of illegal immigration in America today. What do Americans think about illegal immigration? You have some new poll numbers?

STEINHAUSER: Yes, take a look at these numbers. From CNN Opinion Research Corporation, immigration becoming a hotter, a hotter issue it seems this year. We asked this, though, what should be the U.S. and the American government's main emphasis here when it comes to fighting illegal immigration?

Should it be securing the borders or finding eventually a pathway to citizenship for some of the illegals that cross? And six out of 10 that we questioned said that it should be securing the borders. So you can see that there seems to be a toughening stance here among Americans.

Also, you know that Arizona law that new law that gives authorities there more -- more powers to question people whether they have status or whether they have, you know, whether they're citizens of the United States or illegally here, that law has been quite controversial.

A majority of people we questioned as well and multi-national organizations find that people are in favor of that law. And one other thing you asked us specifically about Brewer, she is facing a very competitive primary in August on the Republican side for the governor's nomination there and you can imagine that among Arizona Republicans border security is an extremely important issue -- Kate.

BOLDUAN: Yes it always has been and especially right now. Thanks so much.

Our deputy political director Paul Steinhauser; thanks so much, Paul.

STEINHAUSER: Thank you.

BOLDUAN: So confirmation hearings begin Monday for President Obama's second Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan as she goes before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Live coverage begins Monday at noon Eastern right here on CNN and CNN.com. You'll want to stick with us for that.

And a big new worry along the Gulf Coast where T.J. Holmes is located this morning. Hey there, T.J.

HOLMES: And hello to you again, Kate. A new worry, the last thing anyone along the Gulf Coast needs right now but a new worry, everyone wake -- woke up to the news that the first named storm of the Atlantic Hurricane Season is now here. Tropical storm Alex, I say it's here because it has been named.

But it's not quite here to the Gulf yet. It's on the way. People are wondering how this could in fact impact the oil disaster response. We're going to be finding out exactly now where they're forecasting this storm to go.

Stay with us.

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HOLMES: Welcome back. You're live in New Orleans where the concern this morning, people awoke not necessarily thinking mainly about the oil, about the coast, about even capping the oil. The first concern a lot of people had was about the weather.

The weather now an issue: there's a nervous wait here. There's a tropical storm now, the first of the Atlantic hurricane season. It's tropical storm Alex. It's now headed towards or through, I should say, the western Caribbean. This is the first we have seen, the first named storm.

Now, the tracks right now have it a little all over the place but over the next 24-48 hours we'll still know a whole lot more. Depending on where it goes, it will then let us know how exactly it's going to affect the oil.

Our Reynolds Wolf is with us here. Reynolds, you've been tracking this thing all morning. There are good case scenarios and there are worst case scenarios. Tell us right now, what would be the worst case scenario for this storm?

REYNOLDS WOLF, CNN METEOROLOGIST: The worst case scenario, T.J., would be for this storm to make its way into the central Gulf of Mexico, really begin to gain strength, and then move not directly over but just a little bit to the west of that oil spill, because the strongest part of the storm happens to be on the east side of the storm. And that could of course cause a lot of this oil, which is very close to the shore line, to just go right onshore, which is the last thing we possibly need.

There is a little bit of good news this morning and that happens to be. If you look at some of the computer models, earlier today we had a couple of them, especially the GFDL which is one of the models. It's actually pulling the storm over in this direction.

However, since then the models have changed; everything in a bit of agreement now going across the Yucatan and then into the Gulf, the Bay of Campeche in the Gulf of Mexico possibly south of Texas.

The latest path we have from the National Hurricane Center is as follows. There you go. There's the location of the storm north of Honduras, possibly coming onshore around 8:00 a.m. on Sunday, weakening with winds of 35 miles per hour, gusts at 45, then crossing over the Yucatan Peninsula, back out over open waters to get into Monday and Tuesday. And notice this, T.J., winds increasing to 75 miles per hour sustained as we get into Wednesday morning. That would make the storm a category 1 hurricane.

So right now we're forecasting it, at least the National Hurricane Center is forecasting it to become a hurricane into early Wednesday, possibly making its way onshore if this forecast holds true near Tampeco, Mexico. Landfall, I'd say somewhere around 5:00 or even 6:00 in the morning on Thursday.

However, you have to look at this cone of uncertainty. There is a chance the storm could move farther north, possibly make its way along the Texas coast line or perhaps farther south, deeper into Mexico. A lot is up in the air.

And there is a good chance the storm may not even make it across the Yucatan itself. So there is a lot of uncertainty as we mentioned and we're going to just have to keep a sharp eye on it. But I'll tell you, if you had to have a hurricane, and we hope there isn't, but if there was one moving in this direction, certainly it is somewhat favorable in terms of trying to hold back the oil, the oil location up here a little closer to the Gulf Coast just to the southeast of New Orleans at this time.

So again, we certainly don't want the oil spill, we certainly don't want the hurricane but there are scenarios that could be far worse. Let's send it back to you -- T.J.

HOLMES: All right. Reynolds, thank you. We are just getting started, kind of, with this hurricane season so even if this one misses we still have to be on edge.

WOLF: Absolutely.

HOLMES: Until later in the year. Hopefully no more will come. Reynolds, we appreciate you, buddy. Thank you so much.

WOLF: You bet.

HOLMES: Still, the government here is getting ready, the Coast Guard as well and the man who is in charge of the disaster relief efforts, Thad Allen. He talked about how crews in the Gulf are planning on dealing with the storm if it happens to make its way into the Gulf. Take a listen.

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ADM. THAD ALLEN, NATIONAL INCIDENT COMMANDER: We have a very robust hurricane contingency plan that has been produced by our incident commanders. In general, our threshold to start taking action is 120 hours before gale force winds are forecasted. That can be a different set of mileage depending on the track and the speed of the storm.

But in general at about 120 hours out of the onset of gale force winds we will start to redeploy the equipment from the well site, redeploy other equipment to safe venues so they can come in after the storm to re-establish production or to take part in rescue activities.

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HOLMES: You can bet they are keeping a very close eye on those forecast tracks at this moment not necessarily pulling people out who are working on the disaster response and there are literally tens of thousands of people affiliated with this who would have to get them out of harm's way. But right now the forecast looks like maybe they will dodge the bullet that is, Alex right now.

We'll talk much more here from New Orleans. Right now let me hand you back over to Kate.

BOLDUAN: Thanks so much, T.J. Well, a big rig, big bust. A traffic stop halts a tractor trailer. That's not too interesting but it's what was inside the big rig that got the driver in big trouble with the law.

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HOLMES: Well about 20 minutes past the hour now we're keeping an eye here live on things happening here in the Gulf with the oil disaster. Also some other top stories we want to share with you.

Police in southern California estimated they seized as much as $45 million in illegal drugs on Wednesday when they stopped a tractor trailer for a traffic violation. Deputies say they were tipped off by the overwhelming odor of marijuana that was coming from the big rig. The truck driver was arrested an array charges including transportation and sale of narcotics.

Also in Afghanistan NATO says coalition forces shot and killed the Taliban commander last night who was allegedly disguised as a woman. Authorities say allied troops fired on him as he tried to escape from an Afghan security dragnet dressed in women's clothing.

Also Michael Jackson's father has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Dr. Conrad Murray the late singer's personal doctor. The suit contends Murray gave paramedics and doctors false information about drugs Jackson had been given -- Kate.

BOLDUAN: Saving wildlife from the oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, CNN's Tom Foreman has the story of two boat builders trying to do just that in Pensacola, Florida. It's part of our "Building up America" segment. Watch this.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Mark Castlow and Jimbo Meador are launching an idea ...

JIMBO MEADOR, CO-OWNER, DRAGONFLY BOATWORKS: But the main purpose is to recover oiled wildlife.

MARK CASTLOW, CO-OWNER, DRAGONFLY BOATWORKS: That's what it's designed for.

FOREMAN: As co-owners of Dragonfly Boatworks, they've spent their lives on the water and were sickened by pictures of animals dying in the catastrophe. So they set out to dramatically modify a line of their boats to come to the rescue.

Completely funded by donations and on their own time, the men consulted wildlife biologists to produce what they believe is the first boat ever made specifically for this work. (on camera): The basic problem with many boats is they just can't go into shallow marshes.

MEADOR: Right because of the ...

FOREMAN: Areas where wildlife would be.

MEADOR: Yes. It draws too much water.

FOREMAN (voice-over): These boats operate in less than a foot of water, slipping up silently on injured animals. A big work table allows instant care instead of a long ride to a cleaning station first, while an adjustable shade canopy and mist nozzles lower the crushing temperatures. The boats are even wired for Internet access. It's a labor of love.

CASTLOW: Really it's challenging on our business, but this is what we should be doing right now.

FOREMAN: The biggest trouble? They've been unable to get approval from BP and the government to put their boats to work.

After we made half a dozen calls, the unified command center admitted that juggling all the offers of help has been a problem.

(on camera): Do you think you can overcome all of that and actually get these boats working on the water?

CASTLOW: Yes, we will.

MEADOR: Yes, we will.

CASTLOW: We will do it.

FOREMAN (voice-over): So the Dragonfly team says they will keep turning out their innovative boats confident, in time, they will prove to be life savers.

Tom Foreman, CNN, Pensacola Beach, Florida.

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HOLMES: A lot of people having that issue here in the Gulf. A lot of people want to help, have ideas. They just haven't been able to use those ideas for whatever reason but a lot of people still trying.

Meanwhile, America's top military officer delivering a message to Afghanistan's leaders just days after the top U.S. Commander in the war was relieved of his duties. We'll find out more about Admiral Mike Mullen's visit to Kabul. Stay here.

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BOLDUAN: A message today to Afghanistan from America's top military officer. During a visit to Kabul, Joint Chiefs Chairman Mike Mullen told Afghan leaders, U.S. Mission and strategy in Afghanistan is not changing. That pledge, three days after General Stanley McChrystal was removed as commander of the Afghan war.

President Obama has picked General David Petraeus as his replacement. The senate is expected to confirm that appointment very soon and Admiral Mullen is also visiting Pakistan today.

Questions are still being raised about that "Rolling Stone" magazine interview that was really the source behind general Stanley McChrystal being relieved of his duties in Afghanistan.

Here is CNN's Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: In the "Rolling Stone" article that got him fired General Stanley McChrystal says that the aides who surround him, quote, "I'd die for them and they'd die for me."

But the Military men around McChrystal are now silent. Not one of those anonymously quoted has come forward according to a source close to the general. No one has acknowledged they told "Rolling Stone" McChrystal thought President Obama looked uncomfortable and intimidated in his first meeting with military brass or that the general was personally disappointed after meeting with the commander- in-chief.

Several who personally know McChrystal say it's no surprise. He never claimed he was misquoted and that he took sole responsibility for the inappropriate statements and atmosphere.

But now, days later, facts are disputed. Since the beginning, "Rolling Stone" insists it obeyed the military rules for how everyone could be quoted.

(on camera): Did you get any or did Michael Hastings get any pushback from McChrystal's staff that some of this was supposed to be off the record, never to be reported, or was this really openly very much done in front of Michael Hastings?

ERIC BATES, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE: No. All of this, everything we published, was on the record. We were very clear about the boundaries. We're not -- not for attribution or off the record.

STARR (voice-over): Friday, a military press officer who worked for McChrystal in Afghanistan told CNN the salacious political quotes all appear to have been in settings that were off the record. The source never said the quotes were wrong.

Reached by telephone, Bates told CNN, "In every instance we abided by the ground rules."

STARR (on camera): "Rolling Stone" says it checked everything with the military, including the statement from General McChrystal himself, that he voted for Barack Obama for president. The military asked that that statement be left out of the article because it's inappropriate for a military service member to express a political preference, but they didn't deny that General McChrystal said it and the statement did wind up in the article.

Barbara Starr, CNN, the Pentagon.

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BOLDUAN: And NASA is down to the final two space shuttle flights, but now there may be some changes in those flight plans. New information on the future of those NASA missions, coming up right after the break.

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BOLDUAN: So this was supposed to be the last year for shuttle flights, but NASA officials are now saying the final two missions will likely be postponed. Official word is expected July 1st, but the space shuttle Discovery's last flight is scheduled for mid-September, but French press reports say it could be moved to the end of October.

In that event, the final shuttle flight for "Endeavour" could be pushed back from November to February next year.

HOLMES: A lot of people right now on edge here in the gulf for a number of reasons, but this morning they woke up to some news about the weather. A tropical storm, the first of this Atlantic hurricane season, has formed. The name is Alex. It's still unclear exactly where the storm is going to go and unclear how it's going to impact the oil.

Our Reynolds Wolf has been keeping an eye on this all morning and, Reynolds, it certainly has changed throughout the morning and we will learn more throughout the day, but it looks like it's starting to veer, at least the forecast, veer a little bit, maybe, away from the oil.

WOLF: Absolutely. We want people to just -- just be very vigilant, to watch this carefully. We don't want anyone to freak out. We don't want anyone really to relax, either. Just be aware that this is a very tumultuous time. We're well into hurricane season. This is when these storms develop and it has really been interesting watching this thing develop.

This started off -- let me -- let's go back in time for a little bit, as an area of low pressure, just a little of a disturbance is moving, just near Haiti, then made its way through Jamaica. And, at one time, this had about a 20 percent chance of developing.

It looked like it was going to fall apart all together, but now we see it right here. You'll notice a line of purples, a lot of reds on the screen that indicates areas of -- of deep convection, so you know where it's been, you know where it is now, just to the north and northeast of Belize. Now the question is where is this thing going to go?

Well, that's where we go to this path, the National Hurricane Center. You'll notice that the track of this goes from early Sunday morning with winds at 35 miles per hour across the Yucatan Peninsula where we do anticipate it is going to weaken because it's going to be away from its primary power source, being the warm water. But then, it is expected to continue that northwesterly trajectory, moving out over the Bay of Campeche, then into the Gulf of Mexico.

The forecast right now has it developing to a category one hurricane as we get into 8:00 on Wednesday morning, maximum sustained winds of 75, some gusts approaching 90. Then, it is forecast to make its way onshore near Tampico, Mexico as we get into Thursday, I'd say around maybe 6:00, maybe 5:00 A.M. local time south of Texas.

But, keep in mind, that's just one forecast path. There are a lot of changes that can take place between now and the next 12 to 24 to 48 hours, and there's a chance the storm could veer a little bit more to the north, perhaps more to the south, or die out all together. It bears watching and to watch it you're going to want to stay tuned right here to CNN.

That is the latest. Let's pitch it back to you, T.J.

BOLDUAN: I'll take it, Reynolds.

WOLF: Oh, I guess you will. There you go.

BOLDUAN: I will.

WOLF: Wherever it takes.

BOLDUAN: Thank you, sir.

WOLF: You bet.

BOLDUAN: Thank you, sir.

Moving on, let's take a look at some of your top stories. Dick Cheney is hospitalized in Washington this morning. A spokes -- a spokesman says the former vice president wasn't feeling well and was admitted to the hospital yesterday for further tests.

No detail on his condition has been released and it's unknown if this hospital visit is related to his long history of heart problems. Cheney has suffered five heart attacks in the past. He's expected to stay in the hospital at least through the weekend.

And Toyota, well, is recalling 17,000 Lexus cars. Yes, another recall. In government crash tests, 2010 models of Lexus HS 250h cars leaked too much gasoline.

Toyota says it conducted its own test and found the fuel spillage did not exceed safety requirements. The company says it's working to find out the reason for the discrepancy. It's also working to identify a fix for the problem. And another recall to tell you about, a huge recall from cereal manufacturer Kellogg's. The company is recalling 28 million boxes of some of its most popular brands, including Corn Pops, Honey Smacks, Fruit Loops, and Apple Jacks. The potential for serious -- serious health risks is low, but an unusual flavor and smell in the lining of the box could cause nausea and diarrhea.

And turning again to the Gulf Coast, Gulf Coast chefs are not just concerned about the oil's impact on seafood. They're worried about the people who provide that product for them. It's all interconnected.

CNN.com's Eatocracy blog got reaction from chefs at the food and wine classic in Aspen, Colorado. You want to take a look at this.

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JOHN BESH, NEW ORLEANS CHEF: What's happening with seafood? Dad gum, Kath (ph), that's a broad-ass question.

ANTHONY GIGLIO, FOOD JOURNALIST AND SOMMELIER: I watch with horror every day what's happening there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) in America culture.

MICHEL NISCHAN, CHEF AND OWNER, DRESSING ROOM: Tragically brilliant.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Catastrophe.

GIGLIO: Powerless.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Horrible.

BRYAN VOLTAGGIO, "TOP CHEF" SEASON 6 SEMIFINALIST: Sad. It's a sad thing.

BESH: It's really difficult to see this happen in slow motion.

I'm Chef John Besh from New Orleans. I've got six restaurants down there, and up here in Aspen, cooking up a storm.

We in New Orleans are facing some seemingly insurmountable odds with this oil spill out in the Gulf. It's been incredibly frustrating to see that so much of our fisheries and so many of our coastal communities in the extreme south, especially southeast Louisiana, are closed all fishing because of the inundation, with so much oil coming in to the salt marsh estuaries there where all the shrimping takes place.

Each day, oil gets closer. It encroaches closer into the coastline, and we have more precautionary closings issued on a daily basis. I don't think there's ever been a point in history where a chef was so familiar with what exact area each oyster, each shrimp, each crab and each fin fish comes from. MARCUS SAMUELSSON, "TOP CHEF" MASTERS WINNER: I've said to all of the chefs in my restaurant, we have to still keep buying fish and seafood from the Gulf. The whole Gulf is not affected, and I think it's important for us to go back in there and buy shrimp and crab, red fish, snapper, (INAUDIBLE) in the places they are available.

SAM TALBOT, "TOP CHEF" SEASON 2 SEMIFINALIST: It's affected the way that I -- definitely I think of where I get my fish from and how accountable it is from the fisherman and the traceability back to the exact boat, and that's something that I always take into consideration.

GIGLIO: I -- I don't look at seafood the same right now. I think, oh, my God, this could be the last time in how many years we might not -- be able to taste fresh -- fresh shellfish from our own coast, and I feel like the future might be importing, which is just awful.

MICHAEL VOLTAGGIO, "TOP CHEF" WINNER: I think as chefs, I mean we can pretty much get whatever it is we're looking for. It doesn't necessarily all come out of the Gulf of Mexico. I think our hearts go out to the people that are actually suffering, with regards to, like, the people that are actually out there fishing.

NISCHAN: I think it had to happen. I am so sorry for the families that are down there. I feel their pain.

I have relatives down there. I -- I know the deal, but you know what, I'm kind of glad it happened because we have to change the way we do things as a whole, and I hope that's what this leads to.

B. VOLTAGGIO: You know, there needs to be messages out there saying, it's OK. It's OK. It's OK to come down here. It's OK to, you know, to take part in tourism. You know, I talked to John Besh a little bit, you know, about it, and I -- I just think it's truly, truly important that there's -- there are more messages out there, especially from chefs, especially restauranteurs, you know, who know firsthand what the product is like.

BESH: I've been really proud of our chef community, in particular the entire hospitality community throughout the country, but especially down in the Gulf Region. You see, it's coastal communities that have really given us so much of our culture through all these great ingredients that we have at our fingertips, and I'm worried what will come five, 10, 20 years from now. How long will it take us to really put these communities back in -- back into fishing? And that, we just don't know.

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BOLDUAN: It's a whole new way to go to the movies, and it's all the rage in London. The secret cinema revealed, next.

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BOLDUAN: So you head out to see a movie but have no idea what's playing or even where it's being shown. Sound a little weird? Sound a little strange? Well, listen up. It's all the rage in London.

CNN's Neil Curry has the story.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, welcome. This is going to be exciting, everybody.

NEIL CURRY, CNN PRODUCER (voice-over): With 7,000 moviegoers attending screenings in less than a week, it may no longer be London's best kept secret but to film fans the Secret Cinema has lost none of its allure.

Several times a year, these film enthusiasts are brought together by the prospect of watching a movie in unusual surroundings. The catch? They don't know which film they'll be seeing or where they'll be seeing it.

This month, much to the bewilderment of the city's bankers, the film buffs have been told to come to Canary Wharf, London's financial district, wearing goggles.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can see very little.

CURRY (on camera): What is it that appeals to you guys about Secret Cinema? Why do (INAUDIBLE)?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The magic. The mystery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The surprise. The suspense.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just the excitement of not knowing, because we've got no idea what is going to happen. The problem, we had to wear our goggles.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The mystery.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Mystery. Randomness.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Being involved in something a bit nuts in London. Some good fun.

CURRY (voice-over): Upon arrival in Canary Wharf, the guessing game begins. The cinemagoers are greeted by actors playing out short scenarios. The costumes and dialogs provide the first clues as to what the mystery film might be.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Prepare for boarding. Make sure to have all your travel documents ready for inspection.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Straight forward. (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) do you understand? Your (INAUDIBLE) this journey. Do you understand? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If you have any goggles on you, please make sure you're wearing them in case we experience any acid rain.

CURRY: Following a brief journey to the main venue, the secret cineastes delve into an interactive world that indulges the senses. The attention to detail is remarkable. Two hundred designers, art directors and actors have spent six weeks preparing the set. It's the biggest Secret Cinema event to date.

By this point, most science fiction fans will already have guessed. This month's event is inspired by the 1982 Ridley Scott classic "Blade Runner". Any remaining doubts are put to rest during the moments of revelation and opening credits of the screening.

According to event's founders, keeping this information confidential is part of the fun for the audience.

FABIEN RIGGALL, FOUNDER, SECRET CINEMA: We're on Facebook and we're all on these things and people are telling you I'm at this party. I'm doing this thing. It's great.

You know, I'm brushing my teeth. I'm going to the loo -- you know, everyone's telling everyone everything. And so the idea of not telling them anything and keeping something secret's kind of sacred, and I think that's really what this is about, is creating a magical experience where people actually can talk to each other and meet each other.

CURRY: Riggall admits that this month's event will be difficult to top, but remains ambitious. Next, he hopes to capture the imagination of audiences abroad with a series of international events. If he succeeds, the Secret Cinema may soon be coming to a venue near you. But, remember, tell no one.

Neil Curry, CNN, London.

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BOLDUAN: CNN NEWSROOM continues at the top of the hour with Fredricka Whitfield.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Good to see you.

BOLDUAN: (INAUDIBLE). You got a lot going on. What do you have for me?

WHITFIELD: Oh, yes. Just like you've had a whole lot going on.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

WHITFIELD: Well, just multiply that a few more times because it's a very full day.

Our legal guys of course are going to be with us. We always look forward to hearing from Richard and Avery. And today they're going to be talking about quite a few things. Number one, cheerleading versus volleyball, which is the sport? Or are they both a sport? Quinnipiac University has sided with cheerleading over volleyball, so now, at issue, whether Title IX, whether gender equity in sports is being applied here. And what will happen in this case.

And then, how about this very rich dog, named Conchita. This Chihuahua has not only inherited a multi-million dollar mansion but also millions of dollars because its owner passed away and bequeathed all these millions to the dog, Conchita.

And now, the only son of the woman who passed away is contesting this, saying, wait a minute, something's wrong here. He got $1 million, the dog got a few million dollars, and he's contesting that one.

BOLDUAN: Oh, Conchita.

WHITFIELD: Yes. Oh, Conchita.

And no fad diets, no surgery, but losing 250 pounds.

BOLDUAN: How?

WHITFIELD: We're going to be joined -- yes. That's the big question.

We're going to be joined by this man right here. This is the before and after. He's actually a marketing mogul. Many people know of him worldwide. He has kind of been behind the brand of -- of Pepsi and a number of other agencies and companies, and so he says --

There's an interesting philosophy here, and he's written a book about it. It's called "Shift" and he talks about how you can reinvent yourself and reinvent your business as well through his philosophy.

BOLDUAN: Fascinating.

WHITFIELD: So you got to listen to him, 4:00 Eastern time.

BOLDUAN: Fascinating. From a woman who does not need to lose any weight whatsoever.

WHITFIELD: I don't know. I guess it's all relative. It depends on who you ask, right?

BOLDUAN: Very true. Very true.

Thanks so much ...

WHITFIELD: But I like to eat.

BOLDUAN: Exactly. I think it's go be a good hour. I can't wait -- well, all day.

WHITFIELD: Yes. BOLDUAN: Thanks so much.

WHITFIELD: Starting noon time.

BOLDUAN: We'll be watching and listening.

WHITFIELD: All right. Good to see you.

BOLDUAN: So, would you pass up a chance to be a billionaire? Hopefully, that's the hardest question you're asked today.

One man, well, he did pass that up. We'll introduce you to Apple's forgotten founder. Why he says he has no regrets.

We'll be right back.

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BOLDUAN: The iPhone's second coming. It hit shelves in the U.S. on Thursday and it's already the summer's biggest blockbuster. Analysts estimate that up to a million and a half iPhone 4s were sold on the first day.

Just check out the lines in New York City, people getting there quite early and lining up for hours. They want -- they had to -- and they had to if they wanted to get one of those phones, and that's just the U.S.

Check out the lines in Tokyo. They got a crack at the new iPhone before the United States. People waited three days in line just to get theirs there.

HOLMES: I don't get it, but let's put all this in perspective here, Big Kate (ph). Apple only sold about 200 of its Apple 1 computers. That was back in 1976. Now, experts say it could sell about 9.5 million iPhone 4s just this month.

But our Dan Simon met a guy who has never owned an Apple, even though he helped found the company.

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RON WAYNE, APPLE CO-FOUNDER: These are from Germany.

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): His net worth is mostly tied up in his coin and stamp collection.

WAYNE: I played penny machines, mostly the poker machines.

SIMON: A few days a week, he drives himself to a casino, hoping one day he'll hit the jackpot.

He's 76, retired, lives in this modest home outside of Las Vegas in Pahrump, Nevada. He gets by off his monthly social security check.

WAYNE: I'll put it real simple. I've never been rich. SIMON: A lot of people face similar challenges, except how many can honestly say they could have been a billionaire, more than 20 times over? If only he could have seen it.

SIMON (on camera): You know that when people hear your story they say to themselves, my gosh. $22 billion. You could have had it.

WAYNE: What can I say? I mean, you -- you make a decision based upon your understanding of the circumstances, and you live with it. This is -- you know, that's the best you can do. There's nothing you can do about yesterday.

SIMON (voice-over): Ron Wayne is the third founder of Apple. He designed the company's first logo and the first operating manual.

SIMON (on camera): With these signatures right here, Apple Computer was formed?

WAYNE: Yes.

SIMON (voice-over): This 1976 legal agreement shows his name alongside the well-known founders, Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs.

Wayne, an engineer by trade, had befriended Jobs who he says wanted his help in forming the company.

SIMON (on camera): This is the contract right here?

WAYNE: Yes.

SIMON: And it says Ron Wayne gets 10 percent of the business.

WAYNE: Yes.

SIMON: And you're happy with that?

WAYNE: Of course. I had -- I had no investment in it. It was a fascinating thing.

SIMON (voice-over): But only 11 days after Apple came into existence, Wayne had second thoughts.

WAYNE: I felt, very honestly, that the way these guys were going, they were going to bulldoze their way through anything to make this company succeed, but it was going to be a very rough ride and if I wasn't careful, I was going to wind up the richest man in the cemetery.

SIMON: He says he was worried about being on the hook for debts the company would incur. At the time, Wayne's 10 percent stake netted him just $800.

WAYNE: As far as I was concerned, it was found money, and I didn't want to get in anybody's way, and why should I -- why would I possibly do that anyhow?

SIMON (on camera): At the time, you were pleased to take it?

WAYNE: Absolutely.

SIMON (voice-over): Throughout the years, Wayne has held various jobs as an engineer. He's never had a particular fascination with computers.

(on camera): How many Apple products have you bought over the years?

WAYNE: In round numbers? About as round a number as you can get. I've never owned an Apple product.

SIMON (voice-over): Wayne says he's not jealous of Steve Jobs or Apple's success and says it's useless to waste time wondering what if.

He last spoke to Jobs 10 years ago.

WAYNE: I don't think anybody could have imagined the success that Apple did become, but I knew that it would be a successful enterprise because the people who were driving it were skilled and capable and dynamic and focused.

SIMON: Wayne is hoping to finally cash in on his Apple connection with a forthcoming book, the title "Adventures of an Apple Founder."

Dan Simon, CNN, Pahrump, Nevada.

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HOLMES: Poor guy. Anyway, Kate, sorry I couldn't be there with you in Atlanta today, but thank you for helping us out on this CNN SATURDAY MORNING while I reported live here from New Orleans. We appreciate it.

BOLDUAN: Thank you so much, T.J. Sorry you aren't here; we miss you, but you're doing a fabulous job down there. Keep it up.

We will now hand it over to Fredricka Whitfield as CNN NEWSROOM continues.

WHITFIELD: All right, T.J., you stay cool with the tunes there and Kate, always cool all the time. See you guys a bit later.