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Half a Billion Eggs Recalled; The Lessons from Iraq; Possible New Jordan Trial; World According to College Freshmen; Walking Away from the NFL
Aired August 21, 2010 - 19:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Tonight, with more than a half billion eggs pulled from supermarket shelves and over 1,000 fallen ill. How do you know what is safe and what's not. We're going to tell you.
The man convicted of killing Michael Jordan's father claims he has new evidence and may get a new trial. Tonight, he tells us why he believes he'll soon be a free man.
And they haven't used a phone with a cord and they don't know how to write in cursive. Who am I talking about? The college class of 2014. Born in 1992. You'll be surprised to learn what they don't know about many things that we old folks take for granted.
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LEMON: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon. Thanks for joining us.
America's massive egg recall has grown to more than a half billion eggs. It's all because of on outbreak of salmonella, the bacteria that has sickened more than 1,000 people and counting. That's since last month.
The recall centers on two giant egg distributors in Iowa. Their eggs are sold under more than a dozen brand names in more than a dozen states. So many of us eat them and so often.
I asked Dr. Randy Martin what we can do to protect ourselves when eating eggs.
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DR. RANDY MARTIN, PIEDMONT HEART INSTITUTE: Eggs are actually -- you know, as a cardiologist, we used to rag on eggs and that, you know, they were really bad for you. Eggs are actually a great source of protein and a lot of good vitamins but there are other sources. So, if you're really concerned, like to have some tofu or other things like that, refrigerate your eggs, they got to be less than 40 degrees. Store them individually (INAUDIBLE). And then cook 'em. They got to be more than 160 degrees for 10 minutes and eat them promptly.
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LEMON: That's good advice. And to find out which states are affected by the recall and for links to the plant numbers and date codes that you need to look out for on the egg cartons, just logon to our Web site, CNN.com/health. Again, CNN.com/health.
And make sure you join us tomorrow for more expert advice on this really growing story here. I'm going to talk with FDA commissioner, Dr. Margaret Hamburg. I'll ask her about the egg recall as well as the safety of seafood in the Gulf of Mexico and other issues as well. That's tomorrow night, 7:00 Eastern, right here on CNN.
You know, after more than seven years and at a cost of more than 4,000 American lives, the U.S. combat mission in Iraq is all but over.
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LEMON: A flag ceremony today symbolically marked the moment at Camp Virginia in Kuwait. Operation Iraqi Freedom doesn't officially end until August 31st. But the last full combat convoy has already left Iraq. And by the end of the month, the U.S. force in Iraq -- forces in Iraq is supposed to be down by 50,000 troops, serving in noncombat roles.
You know, Iraq has often been a painful learning experience for the U.S. military. And our Pentagon correspondent Chris Lawrence looks at how much the war has changed since the shock-and-awe of 2003.
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CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, I remember back in late 2004, early 2005, riding through Al Anbar province, Ramadi, with the Army and the Marines, we were riding in an open-air Humvee, you know, no cover, no armor, nothing. That kind of vehicle couldn't even leave the gate of a base today. That's how much things have changed.
(voice-over): The military used to save money by short-changing some soldiers.
MASTER SGT. MICHAEL CLINE, ENLISTED ASSN. OF THE NATIONAL GUARD: Instead of being one total army or the army of one, we have the army of one and then we've got his two little brothers over here.
LAWRENCE: For the Guard and Reserve, Iraq became the great equalizer.
Ambushes and roadside bombs forced officials to train reservists and active duty supply troops a lot like infantry.
MAJ. GEN. JAMES DUBIK, U.S. ARMY (RET.): We had to contact, we have the IEDs, fight their way out of tough situations. That changed a lot of the training in preparation for deployment.
LAWRENCE: And Retired General Jim Dubik admits, when the war started, the military put more money into some soldiers over others.
DUBIK: We decided to spend most of it for the combat forces forward and save a little bit by not outfitting the low stations (ph) as much. Those days are past.
LAWRENCE: Female troops were captured in Iraq. Nearly 700 women were wounded, well over 100 killed. Unit commanders started getting around the rules by attaching them to combat units instead of assigning.
DUBIK: One of the biggest combat lessons was this: everybody's a fighter.
LAWRENCE: Now, some walk foot patrols in Afghanistan to engage its population of women.
This is a picture I took back in 2003 of an American in Baghdad. The troops of 2010 wouldn't recognize his gear.
DUBIK: Body armor changed, helmets changed. Almost everything from the soldier up has changed in this war.
LAWRENCE: Change didn't come fast enough in one respect. IEDs killed hundreds of soldiers and marines before they and their families demanded better.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles?
LAWRENCE: Today's troops deploy from vehicles in varying patterns to avoid IEDs. To sniff out bombs, they trust their dogs as much electronics. And counterinsurgency is a way of life, not the academic exercise it was 10 years ago.
(voice-over): It's really top to bottom from the kind of equipment that the troops carry to their tactics that they use when they're in the field, to how decisions even get made by their bosses back in the Pentagon -- really Iraq changed the face of how the military fights a war -- Don.
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LEMON: All right. Chris, thank you very much.
President Obama promises to complete withdrawal from Iraq by the end of 2011. But will Iraqi forces be ready for the handover? It is a question that "STATE OF THE UNION" host Candy Crowley posed to the top U.S. military commander in Iraq.
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CANDY CROWLEY, HOST, "STATE OF THE UNION": Will they be good enough for us to pull out the remainder of those 50,000 troops by the deadline of the end of next year?
GEN. RAY ODIERNO, CMDR., MULTI-NATIONAL FORCE-IRAQ: My assessment today is they will be. I think -- I think that they continue to grow. We continue to see development in planning, in their ability to conduct operations. We continue to see political development, economic development. And all of these combined together will start to create an atmosphere that creates better security.
And the Iraqi people are resilient. They want this. They want to have a democratic country. They want to be on their own. They want to move forward and be a contributor to stability in the Middle East.
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LEMON: And make sure you catch the rest of that interview on "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley. It starts tomorrow morning, 9:00 a.m. Eastern.
More than a half million people today scrambling to get away from the rising waters of Pakistan's floods. In fact, witnesses say a wall of water threatened to drown one city in the Sindh province. Since the flooding hit Pakistan three weeks ago, more than 1,500 people have died and officials estimate close to 20 million people have been impacted.
The concern now is fear of waterborne diseases such as malaria and diarrhea. A senior director at the American Red Cross told me earlier that help has not been as generous as needed.
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NAN BUZARD, AMERICAN RED CROSS: Internationally, more and more funds are starting to come in. A week ago, I was with the Pakistan general counsel in New York and the U.S. government had committed to $55 million. Now, the U.S. government is up to $150 million in relief aid that's been committed. At the American Red Cross, I have to say the donations have been coming in fairly slowly.
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LEMON: And Buzard says, at this point the American Red Cross has received $1.3 million to help Pakistan. More than half a billion was received to help the victims from the tsunami in 2004. And just under half a billion came in to help Haitians after the earthquake this year.
It is a story that has captured the nation, the shooting death of Michael Jordan's father 17 years ago. Now, one of the men convicted of his murder says one day, he'll be a free man. He says the state withheld evidence from him.
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LEMON: A just released report about North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation is calling into question years and years of cases -- now, among them, a conviction in the killing of Michael Jordan's father.
Amanda Lamb of our affiliate WRAL has the story.
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AMANDA LAMB, WRAL REPORTER (voice-over): It was a case the entire country watched. Two young men convicted of killing James Jordan, the father of basketball legend and native son Michael Jordan. Daniel Green has been in prison for 17 years. He says he's innocent.
(on camera): You did not kill James Jordan?
DANIEL GREEN, CONVICTED IN JORDAN KILLING: No.
LAMB: And you were not there when James Jordan was killed
GREEN: No.
LAMB: Green admits that he helped his co-defendant, Larry Demery, get rid of the body and then went joyriding in Jordan's car. Demery testified against Green at trial and fingered him as the shooter and got a plea deal.
GREEN: They would always change his story according to what evidence was actually being put out by the lab.
LAMB: Part of the evidence at trial was a test by the SBI lab that showed blood in Jordan's car. But the audit shows that four later inclusive tests for blood were never revealed at trial.
In 2007, Green wrote to the SBI asking for the test results. They sent him a letter refusing to release the file to him.
GREEN: I've never seen blood in the car. I never saw any blood in the car.
LAMB: Green says he's not surprised by the results of the SBI audit and despite his situation, he says he's not angry that evidence was withheld.
GREEN: I mean, I've already been through the whole anger stage, despair stage. You know, I've been through that. I'm not going to go back there. You know what I mean? Because, I mean, myself, I have to try to stay as, you know, clear-headed as possible.
LAMB: Green has been working on his case from behind bars for years, trying to prove his innocence.
GREEN: It really doesn't change my approach. My approach has always been, as you know, every -- you know, every month, every year, since I've been in prison, you know, I've been fighting my case.
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LEMON: Wow, has that been 17 years?
So, you know, what are the chances of a new trial for the man sent away for murdering James Jordan? Joining us now is criminal attorney Trent Copeland.
Thank you for joining us.
So, Trent, the accusation is that the Bureau of Investigation withheld evidence. Is that enough to merit a second trial here?
TRENT COPELAND, CRIMINAL ATTORNEY: Well, it isn't, Don. And, look, although there probably is a glimmer of hope for Mr. Green, just the issue alone that the SBI withheld some evidence doesn't in and of itself merit a new trial. Remember, look, there also appears to have been, according to the transcripts in the trial, other evidence connecting him to the shooting. So, look, it might open the case for review by state authorities, but it doesn't necessarily guarantee that he's going to have a new trial.
LEMON: OK. So, there are a number of cases. We said, you know, that this investigation that they're looking into now. This is probably the most high profile among them. And that's why we're doing this story.
So, what -- tell us about the report. What does the report against the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation say?
COPELAND: You know, what it essentially says, Don, is a number of things. And the first is, it's really an overall indictment of this crime lab. What it says is there was rampant mismanagement.
There were critical errors made. There was, at best, an issue, an institution of mismanagement, poorly crafted instances where the information was transmitted to the prosecutor's office. And in some instances, it appears to be that there were rampant misrepresentations.
So, look, this is an overall indictment of this crime lab. And what it says is that there were instances where people who were put to death, there were instances where people who were given life sentences were given those sentences largely based on information that came from this crime lab. So, this is an overall indictment. And I think this is going to be a very, very interesting case as it moves forward.
LEMON: OK. So, what is the process, then, to figure out which cases get a second chance and which ones get thrown out altogether?
COPELAND: Right. Well, you know, look, there's going to be an independent review. That's the first thing. And, clearly, Don, as you indicated a moment ago, this is the most high profile of those cases. This one will go forward. There will be a review by the prosecuting agency. There will be a review perhaps even by the trial court who rendered the sentence in this instance.
So, there will be an overall review. And what they'll look to determine, Don, is whether or not the information that came from this crime lab was information that was critical, that was vital in determining that conviction. And if it is found to be that, then clearly, there'll be a new trial and there might even be an exoneration for this defendant and many others.
But if there's other evidence, while there's a suggestion in this case that he was fingered by his co-defendant, there might have been other independent evidence. If that's the case and those other pieces of evidence still stand, then simply having information from this crime lab to suggest that the crime lab had done something improper is still not enough to order a new trial and to exonerate this man.
LEMON: Great information. Trent Copeland, thank you.
COPELAND: You bet, Don.
LEMON: Most high school and college football players dream of making to it the NFL. And coming up, we're going to meet a man who made that dream come true -- but is walking away from the game. We'll tell you why.
Plus, Wyclef Jean's hopes of going from hip-hop star to politician, they're over, at least for now. Jean wanted to run for the president of Haiti. We'll tell you what happened there.
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LEMON: Time now for top stories.
Tonight, Iran is taking a big step forward with its nuclear energy plans. Nuclear fuel is being transferred into what will be the country's first atomic power station. Tehran says the plant will be used to produce electricity. But the U.S. and the international community are worried the plant could be used to create nuclear weapons. Iran's state media have reported it will take at least two months for the reactor to begin generating power.
Well, he can make music, but he can't make a run for Haiti's president. Wyclef Jean is not on the list of approved candidates. Haiti's electoral council did not give a reason for rejecting the musician. But Jean says it's because the counsel did not consider him a resident of the country. Nineteen presidential candidates were approved, but 15 others were rejected.
President Obama and his family are spending 10 days off the coast of Massachusetts on Martha's Vineyard. It is the second year in a row they've spent summer vacation on the island. Mr. Obama and his daughters ventured out to a bookstore yesterday. But otherwise, he stayed out of site. Aides say the president continues to receive his regular briefings on intelligence and economic matters.
There could be more troubles for struggling businesses along the Gulf Coast. BP has issued new rules for those trying to get money in the wake of the Gulf oil disaster.
Do you feel old? Well, you might after this story. I certainly do. Most of the freshman class entering college right now was born in 1992. I'd already graduated from college. Should I even say that?
We'll take a look at the annual mindset list and see how these students' world different -- how these students' world is different and maybe even a lot different from yours.
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LEMON: Coming up at the top of the hour: CNN's Soledad O'Brien returns to New Orleans. And five years ago, the black middle class neighborhood of Pontchartrain Park was among the parts of the city that were underwater and in ruins. Many residents saw no possibility of rebuilding and were ready to walk away forever. But not actor Wendell Pierce -- he grew up in Pontchartrain Park, and now has a starring role in the HBO series, "Treme."
Here's a preview of tonight's documentary. It's called "New Orleans Rising".
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SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You've been left essentially with nothing from your home.
(on camera): Two weeks after Katrina, actor Wendell Pierce told me about the impact of seeing pictures of his hometown underwater.
WENDELL PIERCE, ACTOR: There are so many people and events in my life that are associated with New Orleans that just reminds you that you are intimately connected to the city because, you know, your home is your soul. It's the center of who you are.
O'BRIEN: His elderly parents might have stayed behind in their Pontchartrain Park home if Wendell hadn't flown in to take them out.
PIERCE: It was three months before we could even get back. When we pulled up to the house, I'll never forget my father saying, "Well, maybe it's not that bad, maybe it's not that bad." And then he got out of the car and he broke down, because he knew it was.
This is my childhood home, totally wiped out.
O'BRIEN: Being a witness to this grand-scale disaster would years later propel Wendell to play perhaps his most challenging role -- fighting to rebuild the neighborhood he and his parents loved.
PIERCE: It's hard to see a neighborhood that you know so well, so full of life, without any life in it anymore.
O'BRIEN: For Wendell Pierce, the floodwaters were replaced by a sea of tears.
PIERCE: Five years earlier, we had lost my older brother. And that changed my parents forever. And it was like a one-two punch. Yes, it was a death in the family, to see them walk in the house.
O'BRIEN: It was a total loss. But it crystallized his sense of Pontchartrain Park's unique place in history.
PIERCE: Pontchartrain Park was not something that just happened. It was by dogged fight by these young parents who had this opportunity to build a life for their families in one of the most difficult times in modern history -- Jim Crow, segregation, Deep South, New Orleans.
O'BRIEN: Pontchartrain Park was borne out of the racial politics of the 1950s. The park, as this subdivision with over 1,000 homes came to be known, was the separate and equal answer to white middle class suburbia. One of the boundary lines was the drainage ditch.
PIERCE: I called it the DMZ. This separated Pontchartrain Park in my right.
O'BRIEN (on camera): Right. So, your neighborhood over here.
PIERCE: Right. And Gentilly Woods on my left.
O'BRIEN: Is that the white neighborhood?
PIERCE: This was the white neighborhood.
O'BRIEN: So, it was literally segregation.
PIERCE: Literal segregation.
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LEMON: And Soledad has returned to New Orleans many times since Hurricane Katrina. I spoke to her about tonight's special and how people there are still deeply affected by what happened.
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LEMON: You know, Soledad, so many stories like Wendell Pierce, and to look back on it and after five years -- I mean, the emotions are still so raw and probably will continue to be for years to come.
O'BRIEN: Yes, I think there's no question that people who lived through Katrina are living with posttraumatic stress. I've seen it a lot. We show clips of just video from five years ago, the dramatic flooding. You know, it's physically traumatic for people to watch that happen. That was interesting to me -- I mean, in a way, of course, not surprising, but to see people really struggling to this day.
And part of it is for my friends who live in New Orleans and for people whose stories we've told -- you know, it's a fight. Every day, it's a fight to kind of take another step forward. And sometimes, it's two steps forward, one and a half steps back. So, it's been very slow progress. And that's very frustrating.
LEMON: I thought it was very interesting how you talked about the canal. We used to call it in Louisiana the ditch that runs through. And it sort of served as border, right? Was it -- what was it Gentilly -- it was Pontchartrain Park and then Gentilly village. I forget the other neighborhood.
O'BRIEN: Gentilly Woods. Right.
LEMON: Gentilly Woods. O'BRIEN: And so, the black neighborhood Pontchartrain Park and the white neighborhood, Gentilly Woods.
LEMON: Is it still that border or did Katrina take care of that? Or was that taken care of long before Katrina?
O'BRIEN: It was taken care of by time. You know, Gentilly Woods is a mixed neighborhood, overwhelmingly black neighborhood actually. So, time has sort of taken care of what was a segregated line through two neighborhoods -- the white neighborhood of Gentilly Woods and the black neighborhood of Pontchartrain Park. The ditch is still there.
And Wendell would walk as around and say, you know, they used to say that this was a drainage ditch, he said, but nothing ever drained into it and that people there really thought that it was just this sort of, you know, it's big gap and we don't want people to cross on either side.
In their plans to renovate the neighborhood, one thing they're going to do is cover that up, put plants and sort of bring the two neighborhoods together, you know, physically bridge them by raising the ditch, covering -- filling it in and then planting it so it's beautiful on both sides.
LEMON: What about the return? I mean, it's called "New Orleans Rising." But what about the return especially to this particular neighborhood? Are people coming back? What's the population return there?
O'BRIEN: They are coming back. They've got just over 50 percent of their people back. Two years after the storm, it was at 30 percent. So it's been a struggle for Pontchartrain Park.
And we've always thought that was a surprise. It's one of the reasons we want to look at this neighborhood because they're a middle class black neighborhood, 93 percent homeownership. Why are they not back? On paper, they should be among the first ones back.
And what you realize is that it's a neighborhood -- in fact, they were among one of the last neighborhoods to be coming back. Very, very slow. And you realize it's full of elderly people and that there was no real coalescing force helping them come back. There were some outside developers who wanted to do this and that.
And until the people in the neighborhood decided that they were going to, you know, control their own destiny, there was no real mobilization and no real push toward getting back.
So, I think that they feel like they're on a path now. You know, some people moving in begets more people moving in. And because they had an elderly population, some of those people did not survive over the last five years and also they just can't physically do it. And so, they need to open Pontchartrain Park up to young families and maybe even desegregate Pontchartrain Park in the other way, say everyone's welcome here. We want young families to come in, to take up the place that some of the older families who are not coming back once had. (END VIDEOTAPE)
LEMON: All right. It's about 30 minutes away, about 30 minutes away, the one hour documentary, "New Orleans Rising," begins at the top of the hour here on CNN. You can also catch the replay tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. Eastern again here on CNN.
OK. Do you remember life before computers and what about this? See this? How about talking on a corded phone? Someone in the studio said she didn't even know these still existed. Well, students entering college for the first time this year don't have a clue about any of that. Feel old yet? Coming up, a look at the annual college mindset list and how much the world has changed.
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LEMON: I always love it when these studies come out about the young kids and what they don't know. So get ready to feel old. Most of the freshman class entering college right now was born in 1992. And those of us who still remember things like when the Simpsons premiered. We may need to update our cultural reference points.
Thankfully, Beloit College has its annual college mindset, listing all the ways the class of 2014 sees things differently. For instance, number 31, the first home computer they probably touched was an Apple II or a Mac II which are now in museums. Number 19, they never twisted the coiled handset wire aimlessly around their wrists while chatting on the phone. They never twisted that wire while chatting on the phone. My grandmother had one that was so long, it went through the whole house.
Number 46, Nirvana is on the classic oldies station. I'm laughing so much. Your grandmother had the same thing. Yes. OK. Nirvana on the classic oldies station. Beloit faculty members Ron Nief and Tom McBride created this list. Did I say your last name, right, Ron?
TOM MCBRIDE, BELOIT COLLEGE: Actually, his last name is Ron Nief.
LEMON: Nief. OK. Ron Neeth and then Mr. McBride made the list. Did it spring from your own teaching experiences? Ron.
RON NIEF, BELOIT COLLEGE: I can't hear him.
MCBRIDE: Actually, I'm Tom and he's Ron. He's having a little trouble hearing you. But I'm the teacher so I'll take that question, if you don't mind.
LEMON: That's fair. Go ahead.
You can answer most of it. Go ahead.
MCBRIDE: Go ahead. Sounds good. The answer to the question is that it did partly stem from my teaching experiences. I'll give you an example. One day, I was talking in class about how to tell a story. And I mentioned "Pulp Fiction" because I think "Pulp Fiction" is just amazingly cool and hip and contemporary film that does this crazy weird thing with narrative.
And I got all these blank stares and I suddenly realized that was 10 years ago. They don't know about "Pulp Fiction." So, you know, there's no question with the professors and teachers, they make references to things, they refer to things that obviously, of course, first-year students just don't know about.
NIEF: It's largely how we can put the list together. It's because those blank stares, what we call the mindset moment that is tell us we've hit a nerve.
HOLMES: Hey, Ron, can you hear me now?
NIEF: Yes, I can.
HOLMES: You can. You can hear me. OK, great. I'm glad we got that taken care of. I want to show a few more items from the list. The very first one, a few in the class know about is how to write cursive. I heard this a couple of years ago, that most kids don't know how to write cursive because they're talking, I mean, they're using keyboards instead of writing cursive. Have they just forgotten or is cursive not in the classroom anymore at all?
NIEF: Well, they've - they were old enough to stand up and reach up on a table, they hit a keyboard. And they've been on that keyboard ever since. So the use of cursive, even if they did learn it, has - their need for it has passed.
MCBRIDE: Yes, most of my students write a sort of strange hybrid of block letters and Italic print or Italic letters. But as far as old- fashioned cursive is concerned, it's dead. As Ron said, the conditions that warrant it just don't pertain any longer.
LEMON: I remember, I think up until fourth or fifth grade, we had penmanship classes where we had to learn how to write in cursive and then it had to be legible. That didn't transfer to my adult years. Because I can't read my own handwriting. But we had those classes.
So listen, I want to ask you guys, Tom, about number 28, they've never recognized that pointing to their wrists was a question for the time of the day. And on some of these, do you hear freshmen say, give them a little credit about here? I know that when someone points to the wrist, I automatically know that they're looking for the time. So do freshmen say, give them, you know, some credit or give them a little leeway?
MCBRIDE: Well, I certainly think they can tell time. I mean, I think they can tell time without just looking at digital numbers. I'm not going to go that far. But I can tell you this - I have a son who is in his late 20s. We have given him two wristwatches and he sent them both back to us. He said, I don't need these. I have my cell phone.
And you know, what's really interesting about this is that once upon a time many, many years ago, it was considered effeminate, sissy, to actually wear wristwatches. Until World War I, when people wore wristwatches in combat. Then it became OK and manly to wear wristwatches. But before that, everybody had a (INAUDIBLE), a pocket watch.
LEMON: A pocket watch. Yes.
MCBRIDE: With cell phones, pocket watches have returned. Cell phones are electronic pocket watches and wristwatches are going out for his generation.
NIEF: But if you sit there and point at your wrist and look quizzically at an 18-year-old, you can sit there all day. They're never going to tell you what time it is.
LEMON: I never even thought about that. If someone points to their writs, I automatically know. Now the next one doesn't surprise me, even when I was a kid, we used to talk about it but never really worried about it. This is number 68, they have never worried about a Russian missile strike on the U.S.. So they've never really had to experience a cold war. I don't find that surprising at all.
MCBRIDE: No, not at all. And in fact, we've been picking this up now for the last four or five years, that this is really, in fact, a post- cold war generation. You know, all of these sort of icons that are associated with the cold war for us, you know, the fallout shelters, getting under the desk, you know, the Cuban missile crisis, worrying about who the next Russian leader is going to be, none of that is really something that's familiar to them.
NIEF: But it is a very global generation. And when you think of their perception of the world, the fact that there's never been a Soviet Union but there's always been a European Union. It's a different world view.
LEMON: You know, we used to laugh at people who didn't know about eight tracks and cassette tapes. And I think, is it Tom who has a story about your kid or your nephew -
MCBRIDE: We have several web sites. We have a Facebook page, for example, where people can write in and give us their mindset moments. And we get all kinds of, you know, wonderful, wonderful things like my grandson found a pogo stick in the basement and wondered where you plug it in. Well, one day, we actually got one from a woman who said, "my daughter looked up at me and said, mom, I suddenly realized all these years, it's not a track, they were called eight tracks."
LEMON: She thought it was A-track (ph). OK, thank you so much.
NIEF: A-track.
LEMON: A track as in A, the alphabet. OK. Gotcha. All right. Well, They didn't know.
MCBRIDE: Like the A-Team.
LEMON: It's like people who create their own lyrics to the song. OK. Ron Nief, Tom McBride, we appreciate it. Thank you.
MCBRIDE: Thank you. NIEF: Thank you so much.
LEMON: All right.
New rules for claims stemming from the gulf oil disaster. What does this mean for business owners trying to get back on their feet?
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LEMON: Checking our top stories right now on CNN. New rules for claims over the gulf oil disaster. The "Associated Press" says these come straight from Kenneth Feinberg who is overseeing the process for the government. Getting paid now depends on how close you live to that spill and how much you depend on the gulf's natural resources. And by the fall, anyone claiming long-term losses will probably have to give up the right to sue BP and other companies involved in the disaster.
In Brazil tonight, a hostage drama is over with violent results, unfortunately. One person was killed and four police officers were wounded in a gunfight over drugs outside a Rio de Janeiro hotel. Police say several gunmen fled into the hotel where they took 35 people hostages. Ten people were arrested and the hostages were eventually freed. Police say the man who was killed was wanted for dealing drugs.
A step forward for U.S. efforts to get the stalled Middle East peace process moving again. Israeli and Palestinian leaders have agreed to resume direct talks next month in Washington. The negotiations stalled nearly two years ago, shortly before Israel launched its offensive against Hamas in Gaza.
Well, call it the power of the paintbrush. A non-profit group uses color to brighten up neighborhoods and to make a difference in the lives of children who can use a helping hand. CNN education contributor Steve Perry explains.
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STEVE PERRY, CNN EDUCATION CONTRIBUTOR (voice-over): Thierno Diallo had no idea a paintbrush would change his life. He moved from Guinea (ph) in West Africa to New York City when he was 10.
(on camera): What is the reason you came to the U.S.?
THIERNO DIALLO, STAFF MEMBER, PUBLICOLOR: Better education. My mother thought that I would have that opportunity to just succeed in life.
PERRY (voice-over): Thierno had a hard time fitting in in school. He didn't speak English and kept to himself and eventually started hanging out with the wrong crowd. But then he found Publicolor.
DIALLO: I basically came every day.
PERRY: The non-profit puts paintbrushes in the hands of students to brighter up schools, neighborhoods and low income areas across New York City.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Color has huge power.
PERRY: Ruth Lande Shuman founded Publicolor 14 years ago with the idea that color can positively affect attitudes and behaviors.
RUTH LANDE SHUMAN, FOUNDER, PUBLICOLOR: The colors that we choose, they're very bright. They brighten up a person's mood.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything, like your whole perception of the place changes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I finish a project, I just look back and say, wow, I really helped the community.
SHUMAN: I think society is letting kids get away with not caring. These kids - they'll become what we help them become.
PERRY: Publicolor provides tutoring, mentoring, college scholarships and career workshops.
SHUMAN: 100 percent of our students went on to college.
PERRY: Last year, Thierno graduated from college with the help of a Publicolor scholarship. Today, he's one of the organization's site staff leaders with plans to open his own business in Guinea.
DIALLO: Publicolor was always around to make me, you know, come back to who I truly am and stay on my path and try to reach success.
PERRY: Steve Perry, New York.
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LEMON: For many boys across the nation, making it into the NFL is a dream come true. But for some who are already in the game, they're looking for something more. Up next, meet a running back who is choosing to walk away and he's only 23 years old.
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LEMON: OK. So every football player, most every kid even, you know, young kids, they dream of making it to the NFL. But San Francisco 49ers running back Glen Coffee is walking away from his pro career and he's only 23 years old.
Glen, Glen, Glen, he's live from Mountain View, California. Why did you give up something that most guys would kill for, man?
GLEN COFFEE, QUITTING THE NFL: It was my dream for a long time, you know, but I found Christ in my junior year in college and ever since then football was no longer my dream, you know, and I mean, god has a different calling in my life, a different plan. So, I had to walk away.
LEMON: So why can't you do, why can't you become a minister and play football like the late Reggie White did?
COFFEE: Some people can, but for me, you know, it wasn't the case. I tried for a couple of years to do that. And I wasn't at peace with myself, you know, and you got to be at peace with yourself before you can, you know, minister to others or fellowship with others, so for me I needed to be outside of football to do what I need to do.
LEMON: I understand that. Because I've done some things and people go, "why are you making that decision?" I don't know, I just feel that I need to do it. I understand that. I understand that. Some people may feel that you're sacrificing or giving something up, but for you, you are just doing you're your heart is telling you to do. I completely get that. But here's a question, I worked with someone who once told me to bloom where you plant it. You know, you get to meet and see millions of people each year, lots of people in those football stadiums, man, you know, you've got a whole pot to pick from to save people if you are talking about souls. They're right there in front of you.
COFFEE: That's true. That's true. But, like I said, I mean, if I can't speak to you and I can't tell you what I want to tell you because I'm not at peace with myself, I mean, it ends right there, no matter what you're doing, you know? And, I mean, as far as football, being a platform, god can open up any doors for me to use. So, you know, I mean, football's a great platform, but there's no telling where it can lead next. So football, it had to be done for me to do what I needed to do.
LEMON: All right. So you played backup in your only season in the NFL is that. Did it stem from dissatisfaction with that, or was it more I just need to do something else? And I see you're laughing when I ask that question.
COFFEE: No. If anything, I felt I needed to leave now, because if I was a starter in the NFL, I still would have made the same decision. Right now, as far as the 49ers are concerned, frankly, the team and the leading running back, and if I was in a situation, say, later on down the line I still would have come to the conclusion that I need to leave football. So it would have been a worse case if I waited so I decided to do it now as a backup with less stress on the team, with me leaving.
LEMON: What did your coach, 49ers coach, Coach Singletary, say to you?
COFFEE: You know, I had a conversation with him last week, and we sat down. It was really a conversation between two Christian brothers. You know, I went into that meeting expecting anything, you know, and when I left I was blessed, because that's a true man of god right there. And it was definitely a conversation between two Christians.
LEMON: Glen Coffee, hey, best of luck to you, man. Thank you.
COFFEE: Thank you.
LEMON: Coming up, in just six minutes, "New Orleans Rising," the world premiere, Soledad O'Brien's ground-breaking documentary.
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LEMON: To a lot of politicians and other folks, some members of the media are considered well, best - not me though, right? So what is the latest to repel the press? Try spraying insecticide at the camera crew. Well, that can also get you arrested as one guy found out.
CNN's Jeanne Moos has all the buzz.
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JEANNE MOSS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): You may think we in the press are obnoxious pests. That's no excuse to aim a can of wasp and hornet spray at us. Camera man got it all right. The next thing you know the insecticide was being sprayed all over the lens.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got to go up there and get these firemen to hose me down.
MOOS: The WTIC cameraman did get first aid at the nearby fire station. The guy who was later arrested for doing the spraying outside a Connecticut courthouse was Shawn Quail, the media were chasing Quail and his wife because they were already charged with allegedly receiving stolen beer from none other than the man that who went on a shooting rampage at that beer distributorship two weeks ago.
(on camera): Normally when people want to get rid of us, they use the cover the lens and shove technique.
(voice-over): A technique demonstrated by model Naomi Campbell on an ABC crew. Usually the press is pelted. With things like tear gas canisters, occasionally someone throws water at a reporter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stop that (bleep) camera.
MOOS: And uses the empty bottle to battle the press.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's not appropriate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't give a (bleep).
MOOS: There was even a Florida grandmother who chased away the media wielding a hoe. And though camera crews are sometimes subjected to tear gas, at protests, we protest when hit by bug spray.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Find out what it is.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. And before I have to go to the hospital.
MOOS: A poster on Gawker quibbled with the choice of insecticide, I think you're supposed to use roach spray on Fox cameramen, wasp and hornet sprays for CBS. The sprayer was arrested on charges of reckless endangerment and third-degree assault, but at least he followed instructions and shook the can. I guess I'd rather be sprayed than hoed. We sure do bug people. Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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LEMON: Jeanne Moos is hilarious. OK. Time now to show you some of the news that you might have missed throughout the week. That is what we like to do on Saturday and Sunday here. This is my favorite story of the week. I can't get over this video. It is a amazing to look at.
A bull suddenly turns the tables on bullfighting fans in northern Spain. Look at this. How do you make that thing jump? The 1,100- pound bull easily cleared the barricades and charged through the crowd stands. At least 30 people were hurt, were reported hurt, two of them badly enough to be sent to the hospital. Workers had to kill the bull, though, to end the rampage.
This is also a funny story from earlier in the week, I guess. A life- sized Elvis statue and a neon Governor Blagojevich signed and boxes of former governors of his documents were among the items up for bid in Illinois. Blago was a huge Elvis fan as you can see. They were in suburban Chicago in a storage room there, in a storage facility.
The company auctioned off the mementos for nearly 30,000 bucks since Blago didn't pay his bill. All the money raised is going to go to charity.
Tonight at 10:00 p.m., Disneyland is supposed to be a place of joy, happiness and magic, but one woman sees it's also a place of discrimination.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why would I work in the back? Well because of how I look and then I said you know, you are just hiding me because of my (INAUDIBLE) look because I look Muslim.
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LEMON: Freedom of religion versus a workplace code.
I'm Don Lemon at the CNN World headquarters in Atlanta. "NEW ORLEANS RISING", a special documentary with Soledad O'Brien starts right now.