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Deadly Shooting at Post Office; Typhoon Strikes Philippines; Nasty Campaigning; College Football Player Fatally Shot by Police
Aired October 18, 2010 - 16:00 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Now this. The college football player shot to death by police, but what happened in the moments before the gunfire erupted and who's to blame? We'; see the dramatic video. I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
Fifteen days until the critical midterm elections and candidates are turning up the heat with some pretty bold statements.
RAND PAUL, (R) U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: He used to send it into the gutter to attack my Christian beliefs.
JACK CONWAY, (D) U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE: You don't have the guts to stand by your position.
PAUL: You know how you were telling your alliance when your lips are moving.
BALDWIN (voice-over): Job.
CONWAY: When is it ever a good idea to tie up a woman (INAUDIBLE) your God that you call Aqua Buddha?
PAUL: Jack, you should be a shamed of yourself.
BALDWIN: Even the cold shoulder.
PAUL: When this debate ends, you'll notice that I will not be shaking his hand tonight.
BALDWIN: The fireworks don't stop there.
Nice vette, but why did you park it in the ocean?
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BALDWIN (on-camera): Here we go. Top of the hour. I want to welcome the men and the women watching us here on American forces network all around the world. We welcome you. I'm going to hit you fast this hour to see if you can keep up with me. Let's go.
First up here, we have some developing news out of California. Look at this cliff. Let me tell you the story. We received word former chargers linebackers, Junior Seau, who I'm talking about, drove his SUV off in that cliff in Carlsbad, California. This happened today, these just hours after he was arrested and released on charges. He allegedly assaulted his live-in girlfriend.
You see that car? That was his car. That is where police found him, found the 41-year-old which by the way landed below on a beach. He was transported to a hospital and being treated. We're hearing for his injuries.
Also, two women were killed in a shooting in a West Tennessee post office this morning. Police tell us the two postal workers were shot in what may have been a robbery attempt in Henning. Henning, this is the town about 50 miles northeast of Memphis. WMC says local and federal authorities are searching for two men who fled the scene in a burgundy Chevrolet truck.
Also today, a senior NATO official tells CNN Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda's number two are believed to be hiding out in Northwest Pakistan. We know a little bit more. We know that Bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are living in separate homes. Relative comfort, I should add, and separate homes.
In recent years, it is thought that they moved around the country under the protection of locals and some members of the Pakistani intelligence services. Pakistan has repeatedly denied claims of sheltering al Qaeda and Taliban militants.
The mood is a tense one in the campaign camp of Alaskan, Joe Miller, the Republican nominee for U.S. senate. Why? Well, Miller's private security guards apparently handcuff and detained a reporter from the Alaska dispatch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were asking you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the same goes for you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I thought I was getting smothered against the locker.
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BALDWIN: So, he moved the camera away. That was video that was reported after the reporter was detained. You saw him seat in that chair. You can see things were still pretty heated as the other reporters there confronted Miller's security. One point, a security guard knocks a camera, shooting video of the reporter. Tony Hopfinger giving his statement. That's what you just saw. This happened after this town hall meeting.
Apparently, the reporter said he was questioning Miller if he had gotten in trouble for politicking in the past and that is when he said security guards moved in and told him he was trespassing and then seconds later, threw those cuffs on him, but Miller has a different version. He said Hopfinger, this reporter, chased him to the exit after the event and quote "made threatening gestures and movements" toward the candidate, calling Hopfinger irrational. Hopfinger was freed 30 minutes later by Anchorage police. And superstar singer Celine Dion has checked into a Florida hospital simply to precaution, we're hearing. Doctors want to observe the singer in the last couple of weeks of her pregnancy because of possibly to prevent a possible early delivery. Dion and her husband are expecting twin boys after her sixth round of in vitro fertilization. She will remain in the hospital for at least the next two weeks.
The strongest typhoon of this year slamming into the Philippines. Look at the video here. Unbelievable wind and rain. The typhoon Megi ripped across the island chain today with wind gusts, I mentioned that, up to 162 miles an hour at landfall. We were told that it has killed two people so far and cutoff power and communications and forced thousands to evacuate simply to higher ground. The Philippines has declared a state of calamity in the Northern Province. The typhoon could make a second landfall, we're hearing, either in China or Northern Vietnam.
And a verdict is in for the four men on trial for plotting to blow up New York City synagogues and shoot down military planes. The jurors deliberated over the case in federal court for more than a week. Allan Chernoff joins me in New York with the latest. And Allan, we're hearing guilty verdicts for all four men, is that correct?
ALLAN CHERNOFF, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: That's right. Guilty on seven counts here and they could face life in prison. An important victory for the government here because this was a sting operation and the defendants had argued that they were entrapped. That entrapment defense is failing here. Very important.
As you said, Brooke, they were charged and now have been convicted of trying to blow up the synagogue, a Jewish community center in Riverdale, New York just above Manhattan in the Bronx and also trying to fire missiles at military aircraft sitting at a national guard air field in Newburg, New York. The men convicted, James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams, Laguerre Payen.
The changes, as you see, conspiracy in attempt to use weapons of mass destruction, conspiracy in attempt to use anti-aircraft missiles and also to kill officers and employees of the United States. What happened here is that somebody approached the FBI informant, said that he wanted to do jihad, and they actually met at a house in Newburg, New York.
That was wired for audio and video. The FBI informant provided some explosives, also provided a missile that could not be fired. Nonetheless, they met. They actually planted some explosives, and after planting those explosives, the four were arrested, Brooke, guilty on seven charges here.
BALDWIN: Allan Chernoff, thank you. Well, here is a name we all were used to many, many years ago. It was on all of our lists. Chandra Levy, it was nine years ago, her disappearance brought down a California congressman, remember this? Dominated the headlines until 9/11. Well, will we finally get answers here to the mystery when her accused killer goes on trial today? That is next. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: When this debate ends, you'll notice that I will not be shaking his hand tonight. I will not shake hands with someone who attacks my religion and attacks my Christian beliefs.
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BALDWIN: And he followed up on it. No shaking hands. What did Rand Paul's opponent say to provoke this nasty debate walk out? Details next.
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BALDWIN: The murders of a Connecticut mother and her two young daughters during a horrific event (ph). That is back in court today. The same jury that found Steven Hayes guilty on 16 of those 17 counts will now decide if he should be put to death for killing Jennifer Hawke Petit and her daughters, Haley and Michaela. Sunny Hostin has been following the case for us. She is a legal contributor to "In Session" on truTV.
Sunny, good to see you. Man, we were all over this trial. Many of just -- it was just so horrific to hear all the details and now that we know Steven Hayes was convicted on 16 of the 17 charges. I mean, six of those were capital charges meaning that he could be facing the death penalty. Talk to me about who we may be hearing testifying during this phase. Might we hear from Steven Hayes? Might we hear from Dr. Petit himself?
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION" ON TRUTV: I think we will hear from Steven Hayes actually because this is sort of the moment for him to prove that he should not be put to death. We're going to learn who Steven Hayes is, what he is about, why he did these horrible things. And we've seen that even today, Brooke. The penalty phase started today with this trial and what's interesting is the prosecution's case was very, very quick.
They put in evidence of his prior crimes, his third-degree burglary convictions which were many. And they also are going now to just rely upon what they proved during the guilt phase. We all, Brooke as you mentioned, followed this trial. This jury heard of the horrific events. And so, the prosecution is now redoing that, but the defense has started to parade many witnesses in front of this jury that know Steven Hayes.
Witnesses that knew him when he was a child, witnesses that know his family that know his mother, witnesses that he worked for, witnesses that he applied for housing with. And we are really getting, I think, a picture of who this man is on the witness stand right now. As we speak, he's a man that was involved in his rehab when he was in rehab and when he was involved at a halfway house.
And so, I think the jury is really getting a picture of who this man is, but the person really who's going to give us that insight who is Steven Hayes is Steven Hayes himself, I believe. BALDWIN: So, we would potentially be hearing from him as being the star witness obviously in this penalty phase. And I was reading some of the tweet, Sunny, note from Helen. She's one of the reporters of the (INAUDIBLE). She was talking about one of the witnesses testifying on Hayes' behalf saying, look, he was likeable. He was warm. Do you think that's enough, though, for the jury to say no to the death penalty?
HOSTIN: I'm not sure that it's enough. The judge made it very clear today that the burden is on the prosecution, and however, a lot of this evidence is viewed in the light most favorable to the prosecution, and the prosecution has to prove these aggravating factors. It is now up to the defense to prove mitigating factors. In other words, does he deserve to live rather than be put to death?
And I have been astounded, actually, by some of these witnesses. They've all said that he was likeable. That he was hard working. That he was very much a follower. And that goes with this defense's theory all along that it was Joshua Komissarzhevsky who was the ringleader here, who is the person really responsible for these events just getting so out of control.
BALDWIN: And that is a whole other trial and a whole other jury that is next, I guess, after the penalty phase. Sunny, let's move on to Chandra Levy. That's a name we all were so familiar with hearing. I can't believe it was years ago. She was the Washington intern and the Bureau of Prisons Intern whose disappearance, you know, revealed that affair with California congressman, Gary Kondit, and now, her trial begins today. What are we looking for there?
HOSTIN: You know, it's really interesting. I was in Washington. This case is being prosecuted out of my former office at the U.S. attorney's office in D.C., and I was in Washington at this time. As you mentioned, everyone talked about this case and most people thought that Congressman Gary Kondit was really the killer here, was the one that took her life. Now, we're hearing about this new defendant and my problem, I think, or the trouble that many people are having, Brooke, is that there's no forensic evidence tying this defendant to this crime.
What the government is relying upon is his alleged confessions to other jail house inmates and the defense really took a hit when today the judge found that this lie detector test that he took indicating that he was not involved with her killing or her disappearance and he passed that test, would not be admissible. So, I do believe that this may be a difficult case for this prosecution.
BALDWIN: And as we look at the defendant, we know, as we mentioned, you know, gosh, we all remember Gary Kondit's involvement, the romantic relationship with the very young Chandra Levy, and from I've read, there's a possibility he might be testifying. Is that right?
HOSTIN: That's right. That's what I've heard. I've been calling over, of course, to the U.S. attorney's office and trying to get some comment, but his spokes people have indicated that he may, indeed, testify. And I think we're all interested in hearing about that because this, in many respect some are saying, took his political life away from him. And I'm sure that many people on the jury remember that. And so, certainly, we want to hear from him and I think what people want to hear is his denial in the involvement of her disappearance.
BALDWIN: It's amazing. Nine years ago. Sunny Hostin --
HOSTIN: Unbelievable.
BALDWIN: It is. Legal contributor to "In Session" on truTV. Sunny, thank you.
Take a look at this. This is a disturbance at a New York bar that ended with college football player shot to death, his friends in the passenger seat of this car shot and wounded. Why has that friend refused to give a police statement and what happened in those crucial moments before the shooting? That is ahead.
Also, Sarah Palin has just talked to CNN during a tea party express stop in Nevada. That exclusive interview coming up right here. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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BALDWIN: We have an update for you on those Chilean miners. I know you and I last week were watching the rescues, right? Well, taking you back, they lived about a half mile underground in that mine for record 69 days after the collapse. No one has ever survived the stint quite that long. And with that, the 33 miners made a pact. Remember this? Not to discuss their horrific ordeal, especially the first 17 days of no contact with the outside world and not knowing if they would survive in hopes of scoring, you know, maybe a big book a movie deal, make it on the money. You get the idea.
But cracks began to emerge as soon as the miners did. Immediately afterwards, you had Super Mario Sepulveda. He was free. He sat down. He spoke with the media. Now, over the weekend, this past weekend, CNNs Patrick Oppman spoke to another miner, the famous soccer player who gave more gripping details about those first 17 days. Listen.
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PATRICK OPPMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On a field claims from the harsh Chilean desert where football players fight for the ball and glory. A legend of the game is congratulated just for being there. Once a professional football player, hard times for Frankie Lobos in the mines.
FRANKIE LOBOS, FREED MINER: Being on the football field is what I have spent my life doing, he says. Being in the fresh air, I never wanted to be a miner. Then I was in a mine for 69 days with little chance of surviving.
OPPMAN: Franky feared that the mine would be his tomb.
LOBOS: We didn't have days in the mine, he says. It was just one long night, a night of complete darkness, alone in the dark and starving. Imagine it, he says, a spoon and a half of tuna every 24- hours and every 48 hours. At the end, it was every 72 hours. There was no water left. Only the water that was in the machines and we couldn't drink it.
OPPMAN: They were running out of everything. The men blindly scrounged for cigarette butts from the mine floor. The only thing they had in abundance was fear. Seventeen days after the collapse, a drill brought through, bringing both excitement and hope.
LOBOS: It was chaos. All of us agreed to be calm, he says, but it wasn't possible. That was when we returned from the dead.
OPPMAN: He had only one wish.
LOBOS: All we hoped for was to see our families again, he says. I dreamed of them every day. I saw all their faces. That was what gave me the will to survive.
OPPMAN: And the family shared Frankie's will, toughing it out for weeks in this tent camp near the mine and raising his spirits over a video conference system. Finally. the hearts raced as we watched a rescuer come for their miner.
OPPMAN (on-camera): Lobos feared he would never see this football field ever again. Right up until the will moment, the first rescuer arrived in the mine, the men had met before right here.
OPPMAN (voice-over): Rescuer Miguel Gonzalez also played professional football in Chile against Lobos, the man he was about to save.
LOBOS: He told me I played against you and I chatted with him about it, about playing with him. And I said, make my rescue quick. I want to be with my family. His assent (ph) was quick, so quick at one point he panicked. He thought he was falling back into the mine.
OPPMAN: His rescue though is not the end to their intertwined destinies. The men will meet once more on the football field in a face off between the miners and the rescuers. His glory days may be behind him, Lobos says, but never bet against the Chilean miner.
Patrick Oppman, CNN, Copiapo, Chile.
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BALDWIN: I still can't get over that story. Amazing. Thirty-three men, they're all okay.
Still to come, disgraced former governor, Rod Blagojevich, still stirring things up in Illinois when it comes to politics. His past came up during a debate and provoked quite a response from the audience. That is coming up.
Also, there was a word, just one word that has become unspeakable on several college campuses today. Can we guess? The word is fat. Why is the word fat off limits? That's ahead in our trending block. That will be interesting to discuss. We'll be right back.
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BALDWIN: Politics, you know, it's a pretty tough business. I know you that, but seriously, we have seen some very intense stuff over the last couple of days. I want to share the snippets of it with you. First up, I want to show you Colorado Senate race, conservative Ken Buck, who is back by the tea party movement had this to say about homosexuality.
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KEN BUCK, (R) COLORADO SENATE CANDIDATE: You can choose who your partner is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You don't think it's something that determined at birth?
BUCK: I think that birth has an influence over like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically you have a choice.
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BALDWIN: So again, that was Ken Buck. His Democratic opponent is Michael Bennett had less controversial comments about the economy and bringing troops home from Afghanistan.
Next, we move to the governor's race in Illinois. The setting, a debate last night between Democratic incumbent, Pat Quinn and Republican, Bill Brady. And yes, the B word was uttered. I'm talking Blagojevich. Take a listen to this.
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BILL BRADY, (R) ILLINOIS GOVERNOR RACE: You know well, governor, that I did not vote and never have no any vote a conflict of interest, but you, though, by the way, are the same governor who told us that Rod Blagojevich, your partner, to save your job four years ago was the most decent and honorable man you had met. And I quote, and I quote you.
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BALDWIN: That is a taste of some of these debates. As we mentioned, this is the final sprint here before mid-terms, 15 days and counting.
Also, Sarah Palin has just talked to CNN here during a tea party express stop in Nevada. We're working on turning that tape around for you, getting our producer in position in front of that camera. We're going to bring that interview to you. That is coming up next.
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BALDWIN: All right, here we go. Fifteen days and counting here until election day and guess who we're hearing from now? We're hearing from Tea Party darling, Sarah Palin. CNN, of course, has related political news and the best political team on TV. And that includes, most definitely, CNN's political producer, Shannon Travis.
Quite a get in Nevada.
Here's Shannon, who talked with Sarah Palin today -- Shannon, the floor is yours.
SHANNON TRAVIS, CNN POLITICAL PRODUCER: That's right, Brooke.
Let me just set the scene.
The Tea Party activists are filing out of here, from Reno, Nevada, at a very active rally. It's the kick-off to their fourth national tour.
But the one person that fired them up was, as you just mentioned, Sarah Palin.
She talked about electing
Sharron Angle to the Senate. She's the Republican candidate, obviously. She talked about cutting spending. But she also had a message to a lot of other people.
I caught up with the governor and she -- the former governor. And she did something that she rarely does, which is speak with other media outlets.
OK, I started my interview by asking her one question that's on a lot of people's minds.
Take a listen to this.
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TRAVIS: Governor, what if it's -- what if Tea Party movement winds up splitting the Republican Party, too?
Who will you stand with?
SARAH PALIN (R), FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: You know, I don't think that it will, because I think more of the machine within the GOP is going to understand that this "we the people" message is rising and it's resonating throughout with the Independents, with hard core conservatives, with moderates, because it's just so full of common sense and time-tested truths that can put the economy on the right track that heaven forbid that the GOP machine strays from this message.
If so, the GOP is through.
TRAVIS: So, Governor, is there no room for moderates in the Republican Party? PALIN: No, that's the deal, is that this is all about an independent message, moderates who just believe that government's proper role is very constrained and restrained, according to our constitution, that our states' rights, our individual rights should be more powerful and made more manifest than a growing federal government -- their -- their power.
So moderates can embrace that. Independents certainly can.
TRAVIS: But a lot of Tea Party activists say they're on a rhino hunt to purge the party of -- of moderate Republicans.
PALIN: You know, I wouldn't say that, because within my own family, my -- most of my family, most of my friends and associates, they're Independents. They're -- they're not part of any kind of political machine. Shoot, if my husband was here, he'd be the first one to tell you, he, as an Independent, you know, just with that common sense, knowing that it is, though, that constitutional conservative principles that can help our country. Independent, though.
TRAVIS: So what's the...
PALIN: Independent, though.
TRAVIS: -- what's the possibility of attracting more Independents to the -- to the Tea Party movement?
PALIN: That is a great issue and that's what we need to do. But again, as long as we apply time-tested truths and prove that they work -- and that's what we have to do in the next two years -- send a new Congress to D.C. to apply those solutions that are based just on free market principles, that really can't be argued then by the Independents and by the moderates. Then they start embracing more of what the party is all about.
TRAVIS: And the last question...
PALIN: And that's -- what we have to remember is the planks in the platform -- of the GOP platform -- really are the strongest, most solid planks to build a strong economy, because it's all about entrepreneurial spirit and equal prosperity and opportunity, according to a work ethic. So...
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please...
PALIN: Thank you for your encouragement.
TRAVIS: What are...
(APPLAUSE)
TRAVIS: -- and what do you say...
(APPLAUSE) TRAVIS: Governor, what do you say to your critics who say you're way too divisive to forge a consensus?
PALIN: Oh...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: God bless you.
PALIN: Oh...
TRAVIS: Critics say you're way too divisive.
PALIN: They're going to say what they're going to say. And if I spent all my time just answering the critics, I might as well close up and shop and do nothing else. Instead we're out here and we're just a -- so appreciating the enthusiasm for the common sense message of Tea Party Americans.
So thank you, guys.
Thank you.
(CROSSTALK)
TRAVIS: What are you...
(CROSSTALK)
TRAVIS: What are you...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are you from?
TRAVIS: CNN.
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TRAVIS: Brooke, it cannot be lost what the -- what the former governor's -- Brooke, it cannot be lost what the former governor said in that first answer, when I asked her, what if the Tea Party movement winds up splitting the Republican Party and to whose side would she be on?
She said she doesn't think that will happen. But she said very clearly -- you just heard it -- that if the Republican Party doesn't go along, she said they are through.
It's one of the rare and telling moments that we have. That -- that clip is actually as part of a documentary that we're -- that we'll be airing called "Boiling Point: Inside the Tea Party Movement." It's airing on October 30th and the 31st at 8:00 p.m.. That's one of many, many telling moments that we have a part of the documentary, that rare interview with the former governor, Sarah Palin.
BALDWIN: Shannon, that was an awesome interview, very raw Sarah Palin. And I wrote down those three words, as well, that "the GOP is through."
Let's push forward and just what do you make of that?
Because we saw Sarah Palin, wasn't it over the weekend in California, standing side-by-side with Michael Steele, almost, perhaps, a show of solidarity with the Republican Party.
But her comments to you just now, Shannon, may indicate otherwise.
TRAVIS: Well, again, she says that she doesn't think that there will be a rift or a split within the Republican Party. And that if there possibly is, if -- if establishment type Republicans don't go along with a lot of Tea Party ideals, then they may be through.
So I wouldn't -- we wouldn't -- we don't want to go so far as to say that she's saying that they're -- predicting that there will be a rift, because, clearly, she's saying that she -- she doesn't think that there will be.
But it is telling, she is the darling of this movement. A lot of Tea Party activists here at this rally and other rallies that I've been to often scream and clamor to -- to have her sign autographs, to shake her hand, a lot of the people who were behind me in that little scrimmage were saying, Sarah Palin, please run for president in 2012.
So she's obviously definitely not trying to break ties with the Republican Party. But she's definitely sending out messages of great appeal to the Tea Party activists who really, really support her.
BALDWIN: Shannon Travis, great get in Nevada.
Appreciate you turning that around real quickly for us.
Meantime, we want to remind you, we're going to get another political update next hour. You can always, though, get the latest political news. Hope online, go to CNNPolitics.com or they're on Twitter. That is @politicalticker.
Did Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg take a stand against hate speech or were they outrageously rude to their guest Bill O'Reilly? Did you watch that last week? Well, we have new information today on what they're saying. Also, what did Barbara Walters think about the walk- out that made headlines all weekend long? We're going to have the fallout -- that is next in "Trending."
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BALDWIN: And now, time for our "Trending" segment. This what you're talking about, what you're tweeting about right now. We have Sandra Endo with us.
Two topics this hour. This first one, I mean, this moment. You know, they are on sofas just like we are, right --
SANDRA ENDO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right.
BALDWIN: -- on "The View" on Thursday with a certain guest, and two of the gals just -- ENDO: And no one has walked offset on me, right?
BALDWIN: No.
ENDO: Yes, you're tough but you're fair. So, you know, let's get this straight.
BALDWIN: I mean, if you're guest --
ENDO: Yes.
BALDWIN: You tell the story and then we can --
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ENDO: OK. Well, this was all the talk. This is, everyone was talking about this last week and this week for sure. Well, today, the girls on "The View," they all revisited what happened last week and what happened was Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar basically walked off the set when they had their guest Bill O'Reilly on, and today, they had a chance to explain themselves.
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JOY BEHAR, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": On this show, we always speak about standing up to bigotry. So, I stood up.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": I hit my saturation point.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ENDO: Saturation point. Well, Barbara Walters said they shouldn't have walked off and said, you know, the show is really like their home and Bill O'Reilly was a guest.
So, listen to what she had to say.
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BARBARA WALTERS, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": You don't walk out of your own home. You can walk out of somebody else's home. You don't walk out of your own home.
And he was, as we said, someone we invited. We are used to Bill O'Reilly. He loves this. He loves to pull your chain. He loves to get you angry. This is just what he wanted.
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ENDO: Well, today, a good scene. It was all a good discussion and all the women are very happy. They moved along, and I have to say, no one walked off the set, Brooke.
BALDWIN: No one walked out of the set today. It is a good point. Barbara Walters says, look, he's a guest on the show, you invited him here. Whatever, however you feel about it, particularly about the person's comments or, you know, the mentality is just -- you can't leave, be nice.
ENDO: Exactly.
BALDWIN: I agree with you, Barbara Walters.
OK. Topic number two, I have been excited about this topic --
ENDO: Oh, yes.
BALDWIN: -- because this is the kind of the thing, you know, all the time, you hear the ladies and sometimes some guys, do I look fat?
ENDO: Oh, yes. You know, it's just us girls talking so we can break it down.
BALDWIN: Break it down for me, Sandra Endo.
ENDO: When we were together, we talk about how we look, like, look at my outfit today, does this make me look fat? You know, you look awesome all the time.
BALDWIN: Please. Anyway.
ENDO: But you know what, this is all the talk on college campuses. It's a new trend and it's coming to a number of college campuses around the country. Starting today, dozens of schools are participating in fat talk-free week to hopefully end those types of conversations.
Well, I hit the street and talked to some young women out there about this fat talk and the band.
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ENDO: What's the typical things you guys talk about?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm fat here. I'm fat here. I wish I could lose weight.
ENDO: Or does this make me look fat?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Or does this make my butt look big?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We should definitely stop talking about weight. I think there's a lot of really thin, unhealthy people out there.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As far as these women taking a stand at this thing, you know what? I'm going to be happy with myself and I'm not going to worry about if I gain five pounds this week or that week. I think that would be a wonderful start to something, you know, great.
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ENDO: Yes, this great band, though, is voluntary. And the initiative motto is "Friends don't let friends fat talk." Essentially the fat- free talk campaign is designed to really reject the perfect body images that are portrayed in Hollywood and all those magazines and TV shows, and just be regular and healthy. And the good thing is, a lot of women we talked to actually said, yes, it's important for me to feel healthy, and that's the bottom line.
(CROSSTALK)
ENDO: How like you mentioned that. More men these days, Brooke, that we talked to - they are concerned about their weight. Yes.
BALDWIN: Not just the ladies, and it's the men as well.
Sandra Endo, thank you very much.
ENDO: You are looking good.
BALDWIN: Thank you.
President Obama has been the target of a myth or two, like, for example, he wasn't born in the U.S. and like the fact that some say he's a Muslim. So, who better to appear on the hit show, "MythBusters," Wolf Blitzer has details on that unexpected appearance.
We will be right back.
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BALDWIN: All right, parents. This one is for you. Do you know what your kids are learning in American history class?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you teaching them that they really are the oppressed group?
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BALDWIN: Is the lesson plan different for Hispanic students? One state's controversial curriculum in the spotlight before it becomes illegal. That is tomorrow, right here on the show, here in the CNN NEWSROOM.
Meantime, are you tired of politics as usual? How about some of these campaign ads really? They're so nasty, they're dredging up college secrets.
Or President Obama dropping by "MythBusters"? Do you ever watch that? Wolf Blitzer, he's got some of these good details.
Wolf and I will be back. Stay there.
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BALDWIN: Time now to check in with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. He is standing by in "THE SITUATION ROOM" to talk about what is coming up at the top of the hour. And Wolf, let's start first with what you're talking about, some of this nasty, nasty campaigning out there. I mean, we have seen some of the ads, but then we also have -- it was a debate between Rand Paul, Jack Conway. This is the Kentucky Senate debate, and things got nasty. They're dredging up college memories and they're not even shaking hands.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: It got pretty ugly. I don't know if you have a clip, but if you don't, we're certainly going to have a clip coming up at the top of the hour.
It got very ugly between these two guys. They wouldn't even shake hands at the end of that entire debate. And it certainly was underscored, Conway going after Rand Paul for days in college and these reports he was doing some wild, wild things.
And Rand Paul got furious. He got really angry at Conway. And it deteriorated from that.
That's just one example. Up in Alaska, in Nevada, in Delaware -- it's happening all over the country.
There's going to be a big debate tonight in New York State for the governor's race, Andrew Cuomo and Carl Paladino, and some of the other third and fourth and fifth-party candidates. It will certainly get ugly there tonight.
I guess it's just part of the political atmosphere right now. It comes with the territory. Some of these commercials are getting pretty nasty as well.
BALDWIN: Yes. And we saw, Wolf, some of those poll numbers between Cuomo and Paladino. Not looking good right now for Paladino. I'm sure you'll have more of those numbers on "THE SITUATION ROOM."
Also, there's this TV show -- I've had some of the guys in the studio explain this one to me, because I can't say I've ever seen "MythBusters." I don't know about you, Wolf, but apparently the president made a surprise appearance.
Tell me about it.
BLITZER: It's a serious show on Discovery. And they take myths, they take issues that a lot of people think are facts, and they bust up these things.
And the president of the United States agreed to go on. They've got an issue that they're going to talk about -- that they've spoken about actually. They taped it today.
And the two "MythBusters" are going to be here in "THE SITUATION ROOM." They're going to walk us through the myth, what they claim is the truth, the president's involvement.
They have a huge following out there. You may not be watching, but a lot of people are watching that show, Brooke. And how often is it that the president of the United States goes on a show called "MythBusters"?
BALDWIN: "MythBusters."
BLITZER: That's hard to say. But we'll talk about it.
We'll have that. We'll have more of Shannon's interview with Sarah Palin out in Reno, as the Tea Party bus tour starts.
So we've got a lively show coming up at the top of the hour.
BALDWIN: Right. I'm glad you brought it up. I'm sure you will have more with Shannon Travis on his big get with Sarah Palin.
Wolf, thank you. We'll see you in a couple of minutes.
Meantime, the college football star night out. He was with friends. It took a deadly turn during a police shooting. There was one person with him during those last horrific moments women.
We're going to get that side of the story when we come right back.
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BALDWIN: It is one of today's top news stories centered in this community really paralyzed by shock, grief and anger. Let me tell you.
It goes back yesterday morning, the wee hours of Sunday. It's not too far from New York City.
There was this 20-year-old college student, and he was killed in police gunfire. And of course the story, it is not at all that cut and dry. This is really just a tragic example of what can happen at a bar after midnight in a college town.
Take a look at the scene with me. This is daylight video, obviously. In a moment we'll show you the cell phone video from the chaos over the weekend.
But you can see -- see the yellow markings on the hood of the car? Those were the bullet holes in the windshield of a car that was driven that night by Danroy -- or he goes by "D.J."-- Henry. Twenty years of age, a junior at Pace University.
Now, D.J. is dead. His friend sitting next to him in the passenger seat was also shot. He is hurt.
It happened in front of this bar, where an unruly crowd had just spilled into the street. Police say Danroy Henry was driving away from the bar. He was in the fire lane.
An officer tried to stop him and was hit and thrown onto the hood of that car. Then another police officer was hit, and that is when officers grabbed their guns and they opened fire.
I'm about to talk to someone live who knows Danroy Henry personally. This is his football coach at Pace University.
But before we do that -- and sir, I appreciate you being on -- I want you to watch this, the shocking moments that followed the shooting, all of it captured by a witness's cell phone camera.
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BALDWIN: You can hear the shouts. You saw that the police sirens, the red, the blue, police trying to control these young people who just witnessed 20-year-old D.J. Henry killed by police outside of that bar.
Now, today it is sadness on the Pace University campus and in the homes of these young men who were shot.
Last hour, I spoke with mother of Brandon Cox. That was D.J. Henry's best friend who was sitting in the passenger seat of the car when his young friend was shot and killed.
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DONNA PARKS, BRANDON COX'S MOTHER: We all want them to know what a good person D.J. and Brandon are. They have done everything that we as parents have asked them to do.
They worked hard in school. They're in college. They're athletes. They have a squeaky clean -- they have not a record at all. No record.
BALDWIN: These aren't the kinds of kid who is get in trouble in class.
PARKS: Never in trouble. Never, ever been arrested.
BALDWIN: Never been arrested.
PARKS: Never been suspended from school. They are just good upstanding citizens. Good, good kids.
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BALDWIN: "Good, good kids." You heard her there.
I have a feeling this gentleman will agree. Joining me now -- this is coach Chris Dapolito. He is D.J. Henry's head football coach at Pace University.
And Coach, I appreciate you being on. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and the entire university community.
Just tell me about -- I know he went by "D.J.," so I'll call him "D.J."
Tell me about him. What kind of young man was he both on and off the football field? CHRIS DAPOLITO, HEAD FOOTBALL COACH, PACE UNIVERSITY: D.J. was a wonderful human being. I had the pleasure of coaching him while I was an assistant coach here at Pace. And this year I'm the team head coach.
And at first he was on the offensive side of the ball. And this year I asked him to switch over to defense.
And any athlete and football player knows that's not an easy thing to do. And he didn't want to do it, but because he knew it was for the betterment of the team, he did. And he became the starter on the defensive side of the ball.
But D.J., he was just a wonderful human being. He was never a problem, ever in my tenure here at Pace.
He was a quiet guy on the field, probably the best athlete on our team. And that's how he led. He led by what he did on the field.
And he is just truly missed. And I can't speak highly enough about him as a person, and our team in general. Our captain spoke tonight at a press conference, and they shared some stories about D.J. And it's just really a tragic situation.
BALDWIN: Coach Dapolito, how did you and the rest of the team hear about the shooting? This was around 1:00 in the morning on Sunday. At what point did you find out?
DAPOLITO: I was called by some of my players at about that time. And they told me what was happening, and I was able -- they all live close enough, and I was able to get over to the scene.
A lot of our student body and players were at the bar. It's a small school, it's a small town. And it was homecoming weekend, so many of the people here at Pace and on our team were there.
BALDWIN: That's right. He had just played the day before the homecoming game.
A final question, sir, and then I've got to let you go. But how will you, how will teammates plan to honor D.J.?
DAPOLITO: In multiple ways. You know, we had our first -- we had a candlelight vigil last night, and over 600 students showed up.
Again, this is a small campus. So it was really a beautiful and amazing turnout.
We're going to honor D.J. in many ways, some that are internal and that are close just within the team. We certainly want to dedicate our season, the rest of our play, in his honor. And we want to leave our hearts on the field for him and to just carry on his legacy, and to let everybody know just what a wonderful human being he was.
BALDWIN: Coach Chris Dapolito, I know it is a tough day and a tough week, and many tough months ahead for you and your team. But I appreciate you coming on. We thank you for that.
And on that, we've got to send things up to Washington and my colleague Wolf Blitzer.
