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Some Airports Opt for Private Security Instead of TSA Officials; U.K. Bans Beyonce Commercial; President Urges Congress to Ratify START Treaty; College Students Come Up With Version of Harry Potter Game Quidditch; Heart Doctor Advises on Thanksgiving Dinner; CNN Heroes Annual Ceremony to Be Held on Thanksgiving; Wrigley Field to Host College Football Game With Only One End Zone

Aired November 20, 2010 - 10:00   ET

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T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks to our Christine Romans for the handoff. Good morning to you all. The TSA is making some changes. Some people will now be exempt from those enhanced pat-downs and body scanners, but chances are you are not going to be one of them. I'll explain.

And all of the supports come now that some airports are opting out of using the TSA all together.

And of course right now we are all getting ready to make Thanksgiving dinner. Can't wait. We got a little buzz-kill for you this morning. Do you know how many calories you should limit yourself to on Thanksgiving day? Stick around. You'll see me spar live in studio with a doctor who is going to try to get you and me to change everything our mamas and grandmamas taught us about cooking that Thanksgiving meal. We'll talk to her in a minute.

From the CNN center this is your CNN Saturday morning. Today I'm here in Atlanta. It's 9:00 a.m. in Fayetteville, Arkansas, 7:00 a.m. in Alabama. I'm T.J. Holmes.

We'll tell you what else we've got coming up over the next 60 minutes for you A federal judge admitting he is guilty of drug charges. We'll tell you what kind of deal he struck with prosecutors. Plus you'll hear about the drug-fueled affair with a stripper.

Also, for the first time in 40 years, Wrigley field has been transformed for a college football game. Oh, the nostalgia. One little problem here, though. There's a brick wall just inches away from one of the end zones. That is prompting a big change to that game. You do not want to miss it. I'll explain that.

Also, a homeless man in Arizona is being called a hero. What did he do? He turned in a bag full of money. His honesty has landed him newfound fame and some monetary rewards. You will hear his story coming up.

But first, let's start with this busy travel season, which is, actually already under way. How are you getting around? Plane, train, automobile? Going to be a lot of you out there. TRIPLE-A saying that more than 42 million people going to be traveling at least 50 miles from home, that's an increase of more than 11 percent from last year. More than 1.5 million people will travel by plane. Those flying, those numbers are up as well.

If you are flying you know they've been telling you for years get to the airport about an hour before your flight, you want to get there because of security changes, but you might need to get there even earlier now. Even tack on an hour to that hour because of the controversial new airport security measures. They could slow you down, could slow us all down.

All right, these, take a look at these pictures here, what some people are upset about, revealing full-body scans with the pat-downs all in the name of safety. A lot of people have been sharing their security horror stories online. Some images are from the Denverpost.com. They show you how up close and personal the pat-downs are. You can see the looks of frustration.

Here is another picture that has fueled some people's anger, online from a conservative watchdog group called Minnesota majority, they released a picture of a nun getting an intimate pat-down. Some airports like Orlando Sanford International, the Will Rogers airport there, they are trying to get rid of the TSA all together.

They've replaced the government security workers with private contractors saying they do a better job with customer satisfaction. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I have a problem with is the pat-down, standard pat-down procedures that I've seen demonstrated that I can't do as a law enforcement officer unless I have probable cause to put the cuffs on you and take you to jail.

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HOLMES: A lot of misinformation out there, a lot of myths and people scared and don't know. We'll get some facts for you now. Pilots are actually going to get a break from going through the stepped up security measures.

They will, they complained about it so the TSA will cut the pilots a break on some of these. Travelers, you're not getting a break. If you're selected for a random screening or additional screening, this is what TSA screeners see when you go through one of the scanners, the pictures here that so many were upset about. Some call these too revealing. Others concerned about radiation.

Remember, if you are selected to go through the full body image scanners you can opt out. You don't have to do it. The problem is you have to go through the enhanced pat-down. People don't like that.

A lot of misinformation out there, a lot of people hesitant to travel even, Kate Bolduan at Reagan international airport near Washington. Some people opting not to fly and might keep some people away, usually not the case at that airport, busy one there.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, oh, this is a very busy airport, not as busy as Atlanta, but this is a busy airport. The TSA says these new security procedures have to come down to safety and necessity. They say they are necessary keeping the flying public safe.

That's not stop everyone from civil rights groups and privacy rights advocates and pilots and passengers speaking out against the full body scanners and the alternative, the enhanced pat-down.

But amongst all of this, people are still going to travel this holiday season and that's why we wanted to answer some questions that traveler also likely have as they're heading to the airport. I think we've got some graphics to help me explain a little bit about this.

First off, if you opt out like you mentioned, who will get the pat-down? Does everyone get one of the enhanced pat-downs? The answer is no. And the travelers that will be getting these enhanced pat-downs, these are people that opt out of the full body scan if they refuse to go through the scanner or if when they go through the scanner or the metal detector it sets off an alarm that requires another search of some kind.

There's also still random searches so you could be selected for one of the pat-downs. That does not mean everyone will be subject to all these pat-downs.

Also, in talking about the full body scanners, many people wonder if they'll see one of these when they go to the airport. The answer is no, they're not at every airport. There are 400 machines the TSA says installed in about 69 airports across the country. That's 69 airports, more than 560 commercial airports that are out there, so only about 12 percent. So many people might not see the full body scanners when they go to the airport.

Finally another question we wanted to answer for people is, what does the public think about these full body scanners? We see a lot of headlines and people speaking out about them.

This is quite interesting. A recent CBS news poll says that 81 percent of the public they polled said yes, they do support these full body scanners as a new security procedure so that's four out of five Americans that say despite maybe the fact that they are more invasive and the pat-downs are a little more, they support the use of at least the full body scanners. T.J.?

HOLMES: Everybody wants to be safe. Everybody wants their plane to land safely and on time, of course, as well, but still a lot of people out there.

BOLDUAN: It comes down to balance.

In the balance, some say we haven't found yet. Kate, we appreciate you. Good to see you as always. You're a friend of our show here on Saturday and Sunday morning. (WEATHER BREAK)

HOLMES: Coming up, does this sound like a bad joke? A federal judge, a stripper, and a drug sting. It's not a joke. It really happened. The judge is admitting some fault here. We'll tell you what happened, ten minutes past the hour here on this CNN Saturday morning.

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HOLMES: Hello, Miami, good morning to you all in Miami and across the country, welcome to CNN Saturday morning. So glad you to be with us. It's about 13 minutes past the hour in Miami, and here in Atlanta as well, wherever you may be, glad you're here with us. Look at some of the stories we're keeping I close eye on.

President Obama will be meeting with afghan counterpart Hamid Karzai in about half an hour, the meeting comes on the heels of the announcement this morning by NATO that troops may stay longer than expected in afghan.

First Keith Olbermann, now Joe Scarborough, the morning anchor at MSNBC is in trouble over campaign contributions, the same thing that got Olbermann suspended. Yesterday NBC announced it was suspending Scarborough for two days without pay for making political donations without prior company approval.

Scarborough is a former GOP congressman, and he promises this will never happen again.

The FBI and Los Angeles police department had to get involved in a case out in California. They saw talcum couple powder was inside a letter that arrived last night at the production studio where ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" is taped. The delivery prompted security measures to go in place and really caused a scare. Police are still trying to figure out who may have sent the letter and why.

We all know Beyonce, wife of jay-z. She's been accused of being, over her career, well, attractive. You can go with "hot" if you'd like. Some folks in the U.K. think her newest ad is too hot. We will show it to you and let you be the judge.

Did you know there's a new game college kids are playing that has to do with broomsticks flying around on imaginary brooms, seriously.

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JOSH LEVS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: As the new Harry Potter movie reaches theaters more and more college kids are playing Quidditch. That's right, the game where you fly around on these. How do they change it into something to do on the ground? I'll show you coming right up.

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HOLMES: Can't wait. But first our weekly news quiz. The November sales predictions are up for most electronic devices. Projections are down for one particular item. Which one would you say it is? Is it for flat screen TVs? Is it for camcorders, or is it for MP3 players. I'll have that answer after the break. It's 15 past the hour.

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HOLMES: Welcome back to "106 & Park" this morning. Just kidding. This is CNN Saturday morning. Throwing a little California love in you as we take a live picture of San Francisco, gorgeous as always out there as we look at the Bay Bridge this morning. Gorgeous as always, San Francisco.

Before the break we asked you about November sales projections down for what electronic device, flat screen televisions, camcorders, or MP3 players? The answer is actually b, the camcorders. The sale of the camera is expected to drop from 2.65 million in October to only 2.4 million in November. By comparison consumers are expected to buy more than 10 million flat screen televisions.

Harry Potter, the seventh movie in the franchise just made $60 million in its opening day. Some people have no idea what's going on with this movie but you know it's a big deal. You know it's a big movie and it's so big it has spawned a new game called Quidditch. Check it out.

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LEVS: As the Harry Potter movie is reaching theaters more and more young people are playing Quidditch, a game where you are supposed to fly around on one of these. Two young people are joining me here. They are going to tell me about it.

Erin, you are one of the founders. Talk to me about this. Why create Quidditch when you can't replicate what you see on the movie?

ERIN WILSON, QUIDDITCH PLAYER: It came off the fact that we all grew up with Harry Potter books. When we came to college, the books ended. We wanted the magic to live on. We all like Frisbee and this gives us a good excuse to come out and be nerds and engage in an athletic sport.

LEVS: Greg, talk to me about what is going on in the game behind me. Nobody is running around on brooms. How did you replicate the game?

GREG STONE, QUIDDITCH PLAYER: We wanted to bring ultimate Frisbee to it. The chasers play Frisbee. There's two beaters who carry the bluggers.

LEVS: There are tons of words that fly around. The basic idea is you have the ball. The dodge balls are used to knock people down and you want to get the Frisbee into the hoop. Where is the snitch? Come on over.

Remember from the movies, the snitch is the little golden ball that flies around with wings on. There he is, folks. This is the snitch. They have to capture. You hide somewhere on campus and they chase you for awhile?

ALEX SQUIRES, QUIDDITCH PLAYER: Yes. There's a defined area around the field where we play. The seekers look for me. Once they see me, it's a foot race to snatch the ball off my back.

LEVS: Do you get tackled hard?

SQUIRES: Not anymore. Used to, but we changed the rules.

LEVS: We have iReports of teens all over the country playing this game. If you are a Quidditch fan, send yours as well. Good luck in the game. Thanks for joining us on CNN. Go have some fun.

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HOLMES: The NFL is once again taking a chance on hip-hop. The "Dallas Morning News" reporting the Black Eyed Peas going to be performing in next year's super bowl. This marks the first time in eight years that a hip-hop group will get the coveted spot performs at halftime.

The last time it was a hip-hop performance was in 2004, and might I just say "wardrobe malfunction."

Beyonce's wardrobe is performing just fine these days, no malfunctions. A lot of people have seen her in all kinds of provocative videos and poses and whatnot. But some are saying an ad now is too hot for TV.

If you're just listening to us at home right now, you're not looking at a television I want you to now stop and pay attention to the TV and then you tell me what you think about this ad.

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HOLMES: My director is my ear telling me I can start talking whenever. This ad, I don't know if you can tell, it is for a new perfume called Heat. But it was too hot for the U.K. They have actually banned it from airing during daytime hours. They say it's just too much for kids. Again, you be the judge of what you think of it there.

Let me just turn now, how do I go to politics from this? The president is actually calling it a matter of national security. I'm going to tell what you Americans think of the new nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia. And also the Bush era tax cuts, who should continue to get them, who shouldn't? All that is coming your way. Quick break, 22 minutes past the hour. Stick around.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) HOLMES: It's 24 minutes past the hour now. In his weekly address, President Obama warns America's national security is at stake if it doesn't ratify the new nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia and do it soon. The president is trying to overcome Republican objections and get the Senate to approve it during the lame duck session of Congress.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: As president Reagan said when he signed the nuclear arms treaty with the soviet union in 1987, trust but verify. That is precisely what the new START treaty does.

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HOLMES: Our deputy political director Paul Steinhauser joins us live from Washington. Paul, good to have you as always. This was something that the president agreed to with the Russian president a little ways back some time ago but still can't go into place until Congress approves it.

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Yes, the Senate's got to approve it T.J. And I guess the president's prestige is almost on the line. Remember the trip he took overseas, met with the Russian president and said he would get the treaty approved.

Republican senators are pushing back saying, whoa, time out, wait until the new Congress to vote on this. The president and the White House want to get it passed during the lame duck. T.J., some Republicans are saying one of the problems with the treaty it doesn't allow enough money for the remaining nuclear weapons here in the United States to be modernized.

What do Americans think? I've always got a poll number. CNN Opinion Research Corporation, do you think the treaty should be approved by the Senate? Nearly three out of four Americans say yes. Even broken down among Republicans the majority of Republicans we questioned across the country say yes, ratify the treaty.

HOLMES: Even if the Senate doesn't move on this in the lame duck session, Congress has to move on the Bush era tax cuts or they will expire by the end of the year.

STEINHAUSER: Yes, they will. That has been a big hot potato, a hot potato in the midterm elections and still being fought out now. Listen to the top Republican in the Senate Mitch McConnell in this morning's radio and internet address by the Republicans.

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SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL, (R) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: The top priority of most Americans is to create jobs and get the economy moving and the single best thing we can do in Washington to achieve that goal is to prevent a tax hike that's about to hit every taxpayer and hundreds of thousands of small businesses at the stroke of midnight on December 31st.

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STEINHAUSER: The Republicans, T.J., they want all the tax cuts extended for all Americans including the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. These tax cuts first went into place back in 2001 under George W. Bush.

Democrats say we want to give the tax cuts to the vast majority of Americans but not the wealthiest because the country can't afford it. It would up the deficit higher.

What do Americans think? The same poll I got more numbers take a look. Americans seem to be divided. And 35 percent say let's extend the tax cuts for all Americans, but 49 percent say just extend them for families making under $250,000 a year. You can see the bottom, 15 percent say don't extend them for anybody. We can't afford it. T.J.?

HOLMES: An interesting note there's a group the Patriotic millionaires, they have a campaign now saying raise our taxes, and these are millionaires with the campaign so people are all over the place on the tax cuts. Paul, buddy good to see you as always. Thanks so much. We'll check in with Paul plenty.

We know Thanksgiving is next week. You may be doing some shopping for your Thanksgiving meal this weekend. Food is a big part of the holiday. We're going to try, we're going to try here, folks, to not be a buzz-kill for your Thanksgiving holiday. I got the good doctor here, she's going to try to convince you and convince me to change mama's recipes and grandma's recipes so you can be healthier. Ha! We'll see how this goes.

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HOLMES: Good morning, concrete jungle, New York. Good morning to you, this is CNN Saturday morning. I want to give you a check of some of the stories topping our CNN news pulse.

The manufacturer of two popular pain killing drugs voluntarily pulling the pills off the market at the request of the FDA. The government says the risk of heart trouble from Darvon and Darvocet outweighs the benefits. They've been off the market in England over time.

We turn to Georgia at our world headquarters, a senior federal judge retiring from the bench minutes before pleading guilty to drug charges. Resigning was part of a plea deal for Jack Camp, 67 years old. He took the deal were prosecutors who dropped weapons charges against him. He did admit we a relationship with an exotic dancer that revolved around drug use.

Also, 2012, the presidential campaign is taking shape. I wonder who first lady Barbara Bush, former first lady Barbara Bush is going to back for president. There's a good chance it won't be Sarah Palin.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LARRY KING, HOST, "LARRY KING LIVE": Do you read about Sarah Palin?

BARBARA BUSH, FORMER U.S. FIRST LADY: I sat next to her once, she was beautiful and I think she's very happy in Alaska, and I hope she'll stay there.

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HOLMES: You can watch that entire one-hour interview Monday with the former first lady and the former President Bush, that's 9:00 eastern time, 6:00 pacific right here on CNN.

We'll turn now to Thanksgiving. You know what time it is, time to eat. You can talk about the family and getting together and seeing the loved ones, fine. But it's time to eat.

I have Dr. Felicia Wade here with me, giving us, or giving me specifically some advice on healthy options. You were here a few months back talking about how we need to shop. This particular day, though, isn't this the day to just splurge? Even if you behave and eat well all year with k we not just get one day to just go at it?

DR. FELICIA WADE, AUTHOR, "HEART OF THE MATTER": I think it's important, T.J., to spend time with family and friends and I think it's important to have the foods that you love. I think you're right, you're brilliant, T.J., you know this but I think it's not the time to have 5,000 calories. I think it's the time to probably have somewhere between 500 to 1,200 calories, but not 5,000.

HOLMES: That's every day. We're supposed to eat the 500 to 1,200. This is what we're going to do. We have my menu up. I have a fairly traditional meal I cook. I grew up, ma, grandma, granddaddy, everybody could cook in the family.

Honey baked ham -- we don't have a holiday without that honey baked ham. You got a turkey, stuffed with vegetables, a lot of butter in there, too. Delicious.

WADE: How much butter, T.J.?

HOLMES: A couple of sticks in the whole, over time. Why are y'all laughing? Macaroni and cheese, cornbread, and green beans. I put bacon and onions in the green beans. What is your problem with that menu there?

WADE: T.J., let's start with the ham.

HOLMES: Start with the ham.

WADE: Do you know how much sodium is in the ham, T.J.?

HOLMES: Enough to make it delicious.

WADE: Can I make you a question?

HOLMES: Sure thing.

WADE: What is your blood pressure?

HOLMES: My blood pressure it was a little high last time I went to the doctor.

WADE: A little high?

HOLMES: I have been checking since I came to the doctor and in a decent range, but go ahead. Your point?

WADE: In ham, in three ounces just three ounces, there's 1,000 milligrams of sodium.

HOLMES: That's bad?

WADE: That's bad, T.J. With somebody who has high blood pressure we don't want them to have 1,000 milligrams of sodium in three ounces of ham. Three ounces of ham, very thin slices is three ounces, little, tiny slices. That's not worth it on one day.

What I'd like for them to do is take that ham, put it in a big pot of water before they cook it in the oven, because my family is from the south, too, from Louisiana. You want to spar? Let's spar.

HOLMES: Let's do this.

WADE: They're from Louisiana and North Carolina. I want them to put that in that pot, soak it in that pot, OK, on the stove, boil it so all of that sodium comes out in that water. I want them to pour that pot of water in the sink and bake it in the oven.

HOLMES: How is it going to taste afterwards?

WADE: Fine, because you know what I really would rather? I'd rather than not have that ham with that 1,000 milligrams of sodium because I want their blood pressure to be normal.

HOLMES: Put the list back up there.

WADE: The American Heart Association rather than have the turkey.

HOLMES: Anything else on that list you have a problem with?

WADE: Oh, T.J., that macaroni and cheese, it just gets me right here.

HOLMES: What am I supposed to eat instead? Eliminate the macaroni and cheese as well?

WADE: You know one cup of macaroni and cheese do you know how many calories?

HOLMES: Of course I don't.

WADE: It's like 600 calories. Do you know how much cholesterol is in that?

HOLMES: You're saying eliminate that or put different things in it, different cheese, low-fat cheese?

WADE: Yes. I'm so happy now. T.J.

HOLMES: Give me the second screen with the stuff on it. I have sweet potato pie, lemon meringue pie, cornbread and mashed potatoes.

WADE: Can we change cornbread and do whole grain bread.

HOLMES: Ooh.

WADE: Four cornbread muffins, mix them together.

HOLMES: Some cornbread.

WADE: Some cornbread and what we have is we have mushrooms in there, we have onions, a little bit of low sodium chicken broth, so we do know how to cook. We put that all together and so instead of 89 milligrams of cholesterol we have 59. Tastes very similar.

And instead of the next day having to go to the hospital for high blood pressure, I'm talking about the 41 million diabetics out there, the 500,000 people who die of heart disease every year, we want them to enjoy their families too.

HOLMES: I need to get to this one other thing. You call it a magic number that everybody should be targeting for this holiday.

WADE: Yes.

HOLMES: Put that up. What does this mean, whose magic number is that?

WADE: The magic number is we should be having a meal that's really not greater than 500 to 1,200 calories. We're talking one meal. Most people should be eating somewhere around 1,200 to 700 calories for a day. You know, like someone who is my size, I shouldn't be eating more than about 1,600 calories for all my meals.

HOLMES: OK.

WADE: So that means to sit down for Thanksgiving, I should be, can I show you the plate?

HOLMES: Please.

WADE: I should have a plate that looks like this.

HOLMES: What are you supposed to do with that?

WADE: Have my food on it.

HOLMES: On Thanksgiving

WADE: On Thanksgiving but most people T.J., I know you have a plate like this.

HOLMES: I don't use a plate. I use a platter.

WADE: You go back twice.

HOLMES: Oh my goodness, you have no idea.

WADE: Do you go back three times?

HOLMES: Maybe a third but it's not full each time.

WADE: T.J., I can't carry all these plates.

HOLMES: People should use saucers for their meals on Thanksgiving. OK.

WADE: Put the things that they like on the plate, tasting a little bit of what they want. And they should be mindful of what their diseases that they have, if you have high blood pressure.

HOLMES: OK.

WADE: Heart disease, if you have heart failure, this is a day that you should be very careful with it.

HOLMES: I got to take a quick break. We'll come back and I'll pick up with the plate here, but also some ideas. Not all this stuff was made with the fattening stuff, a taste test to see if you can taste the difference using the low-fat items and some of these. Quick break and we'll be right back.

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HOLMES: All right, welcome back to this CNN Saturday morning. We are talking about your Thanksgiving meal, and we were just talking with Dr. Felicia Wade before the break about alternatives to your traditional meal that you cook.

A recommendation is instead of using what we'd term a regular plate, put your Thanksgiving feast on this. I'm standing here with our executive chef, Kim, who was nice enough to make all this food. Even she got tickled by the idea of a little plate.

One question though, on a serious note here, there are all kinds of health issues affecting this country. But if someone eats fairly well, I guess a lot of people would say is one day going to affect me that much? Can I have one day to splurge a little bit? So even a healthy person, should they still, you would recommend still no, never. There's never a day to splurge, even Thanksgiving.

WADE: T.J., I have to say that 64 percent of people in this country are obese. And so I have to just really, you know, be very, very real and say 64 percent of people in this country are obese, 500,000 people in this country die of heart disease every year, 41 million people in this country have diabetes, 20 million people in this country have diabetes and they don't know it. So for me, it's really important for you to have this plate, have the things you like. I like sweet potatoes. I like turkey. I like macaroni. Have a little bit of what you like, so that you don't end up coming to the emergency department to see me because your blood pressure is out of control and you didn't know it.

HOLMES: Let me get to some of the stuff our executive chef made. We got two different pies, we have two different green bean casseroles. If I can get Reynolds to come out here at some point, but we need to try and see if we can taste a difference between the two.

You tell me, what were the different things they were made with. The green bean casserole. You can't tell, one was made with what and one was made with what? Don't tell me which one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One made with cream of mushroom and one made with a little bit of French onion on top, a low sodium cream of mushroom.

HOLMES: OK so the low sodium cream of mushroom is better for you

WADE: Yes. We also want a nonfat cream of mushroom as well.

HOLMES: Let's do this. We'll see if we can taste the difference. Can we go at it here with either one of them? How much is this going to save somebody as far as calories or whatever it may be?

WOLF: You got some food?

HOLMES: Reynolds this is what I want to you do.

WOLF: Bring it.

HOLMES: Try this one. Now we don't know which one that is. Try this. Let us know which one is better. Is that all right for you?

WOLF: Do cows say moo? Yes, good stuff man.

HOLMES: I'll let you try the other one and see if you can taste the difference between the two. One of them, Reynolds s low sodium and better for you. Try that one. I don't know which is which either.

WOLF: Yes, I like sodium by the bottleful. I'm a sodium-loving guy.

HOLMES: Forgive us here, Reynolds with the taste test. See if question taste the difference.

WADE: I bought a recipe box for your new recipes to go in.

HOLMES: This ought to fill up quickly.

WOLF: I like the first one.

HOLMES: Which is which?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is what you would call the non-healthy one. This is the healthy one. So you like the healthy one.

HOLMES: He liked the healthy one. This is the healthy one?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, no, this is the non-healthy one. I would say that's the healthy one. She will say no this is the one you don't want us to eat.

HOLMES: This is the one we don't want to eat. We got a discrepancy here, all right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He likes it.

HOLMES: He likes it. What about the sweet potato pie. Sweet potato and pumpkin in --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sweet potatoes.

HOLMES: Both and one was made with what and one was made with what?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This one was made with egg whites instead of egg yolk, one have a low, what you would call non-sugar called stevia.

HOLMES: One of them has all the bad junk and one of them has supposedly the good junk. All right. That ain't bad.

WADE: Now tell me which one do you like better?

HOLMES: A lot of sugar in that one.

WADE: Great, that's perfect. Because stevia is made from a plant, and it's very important that we use stevia.

HOLMES: This is the stevia? OK.

WADE: See T.J.'s face? He liked it. He doesn't want to admit it but he liked it.

HOLMES: I liked that? Oh, come on.

WOLF: Give me some good stuff, come on.

HOLMES: You get an idea, it's not bad. Not at all. This one certainly jumps out, you can taste sugar in there. It's quite frankly delicious. Our executive chef, Kim, thank you so much for bringing this over to us. Everybody's waiting to get a hold of this. We'll get Reynolds' answer here and then we'll go.

WOLF: This is real good.

HOLMES: Dr. Wade is trying to save our lives. Good advice on what you should and should not be eating and minor tweaks to your recipe. We're having fun with you.

WADE: I know.

HOLMES: We're giving you a hard time. But you have a lot of advice for folks.

WADE: Stevia is better because it doesn't raise your blood sugar, really, really important, guys. You know if you're going to have all this stuff, you really have to think about it.

WOLF: I'm thinking about it. I am thinking. Trust me. I am. I don't know, they're both good. They're both fine.

HOLMES: There you have it, folks. Have a good Thanksgiving. We'll talk plenty more throughout the day and tomorrow about your Thanksgiving meal.

WADE: Happy Thanksgiving.

HOLMES: It's about 12 minutes to the top of the hour. Quick break. We'll be right back.

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HOLMES: All right, once again, Ray D'Alessio from CNN sports, we are talking about what is going to be the most fascinating football game of the day today. This is my favorite story of the day. It's great. I love, love, love this story. They are having a football game at Wrigley Field. Explain why.

RAY D'ALESSIO, CNN SPORTS: Northwestern's athletic director has been trying to put it together for years. The Cubs playing at the Wrigley field, the Chicago bears played until 1970. Back then, they ran north and south. Today, they are going to run east and west.

The big concern that everybody is talking about is that east end zone. You can see it here in the video. Toward the left corner you only have a couple feet, if that before the outfield wall. It's padded. When people started coming into the stadium saying this could be dangerous. The coaches said, you know what, we are going to have to change the game plan for the end zone.

However, everybody wrote off on it. Safety officials said it's safe. Yesterday, they said you know what, this isn't a good idea. Maybe we should go one way. They are all going to run toward the west end zone. They are going to switch sides. The only way to score a touchdown on the other side is to intercept a ball or run back a punt.

HOLMES: This is what we are talking about, like you would do on the playground as a kid. The concern, we are literally talking inches and feet. And a guy is running full-speed trying to catch a pass, run into a brick wall.

D'ALESSIO: It's padded.

HOLMES: It's a brick wall. D'ALESSIO: It's arena football league. You think the kids care? We'll take the wall head-on, who cares.

HOLMES: We have 35 to 40 seconds here. The Carolina Panthers?

D'ALESSIO: A week ago, the guy was home taking care of his 18- month-old son, a stay at home dad. But the Panthers have been riddled with injuries. Clawson is not gone for the season. He suffered a concussion. Moore, he got hurt last week in a game, injured shoulder. Dunn, he's out the rest of the season. Brian t. Pierre gets the call. They say you are the starting quarterback.

HOLMES: When is the last time he played?

D'ALESSIO: He's never started a game. He never started an NFL game. He was drafted in 2003. He hasn't played.

HOLMES: Ray from CNN, good to see you. Always good to have you.

Another quick break and we're right back on this CNN Saturday Morning.

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HOLMES: We are just now days away from the fourth annual "CNN Heroes, an all-star tribute" hosted by our own Anderson Cooper. We have learned the impact the show can have goes beyond one night. It has the power literally to transform lives.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Good evening and welcome to "CNN Heroes." For the last three years "CNN Heroes, an all-star tribute" has given us all a chance to come together and honor everyday unsung heroes who are changing the world.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a tremendous show. This is what real people do every day with no fanfare and no cameras.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're going to go to any awards show, come out to this.

COOPER: I am honored to be here. On Thanksgiving night we celebrate the top ten CNN heroes with tributes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want to honor the strength of a remarkable woman.

COOPER: Awards, and inspired performances. We announce the CNN hero of the year you voted for.

The CNN hero of the year is Efran Pena-Florida.

What happens after the show is perhaps the best encore of all, the global exposure, all the heroes receive can transform their work and their lives. Doc Henley just opened a water filtration plant in Haiti bringing clean water to an estimated 8,000 people every month.

Roy Foster is able to help female veterans. And after being named 2009 CNN hero of the year Efran Pena-Florida captured the attention of a nation. More than just one night, CNN heroes an all- star tribute has the power to change our world by inspiring the hero in each of us.

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HOLMES: "CNN Heroes, an all-star tribute" will be at 8:00 eastern, 5:00 pacific right here. You can give back to those who have been giving all year, you can click the donate now tab on Facebook.com/CNNheroes. 100 percent of your donations go directly to the CNN heroes' cause that you choose.

We've got somebody else we want to tell you about this morning, maybe another CNN hero here. he's a homeless man with a good sense of right and wrong. His name is David Talley. He found a backpack, a homeless man found a backpack with $3,300 in it at a train stop in Tempe, Arizona.

He turned it in to authorities who then tracked down the owner who happened to be a college student who needed that money because he was trying to buy a new car. Since doing that, Talley has been getting donations from around the country.

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DAVE TALLEY, HOMELESS IN ARIZONA: It's really a happy cry, because this is really phenomenal. I just got tears in my eyes because people want to help somebody out.

JASON YOUNG, DONATED TO HOMELESS MAN: It really kind of touches your heart and I think when people see something good and inspiring they like to get behind it.

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HOLMES: Talley said he hopes we all understand that many homeless people are, you know what, just down on their luck, having a hard time but they're honest folks just like so many others out there.

Great, great story. I'm glad we could bring that to you here on this CNN SATURDAY MORNING.