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Convention to Draw 35,000 People; Disastrous Flood Moving South; Imam Accused of Aiding Taliban; Fallout From Bin Laden Raid; Gingrich and Paul Enter 2012 Race; Huckabee to Make Announcement; Protect Your Valuables; Seeking Jury for Casey Anthony; Disastrous Flood Moving South; John Edwards' 'Nightmare'; Heat Star Sues Over Reality Show; Major League Baseball's Civil Rights Celebration; Financial Whiz Kid

Aired May 14, 2011 - 12:00   ET

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Let's begin in South Louisiana this hour, there is a frantic rush to get ready for the floodwaters, just a few hours from now, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is expected to open the floodgates on the Morganza spillway.

The plan is to slowly divert floodwaters away from Baton Rouge and New Orleans. The spillway has not been opened in nearly 40 years. The move will flood other areas in south central Louisiana.

And this map right here you're about to see it, it says it all. Areas in yellow could get up to 20 feet of water and green up to 15 feet. We'll have live coverage of a briefing by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers at 2:00 Eastern Time.

In areas like Morgan City, Louisiana, could get disastrous flooding. Morgan City is protected by flood walls, but those walls could fail. The city's mayor talked about his concerns with our Ed Lavandera.

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ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Are you worried about it flooding? This is the heart of the city, right?

MAYOR TIM MATTE, MORGAN CITY, LOUISIANA: Well, it is the heart of the city and it's, you know, primarily protected, of courses, by that wall right there. It would take a failure of that wall, I think, before this would really be at risk.

What we're really concerned about though is that high river stage raising the water level back where the lake is and then if that got topped, because that level of protection is not nearly as high as this.

If that gets tops, the water will flow throughout the city and won't be held in a particular compartment of the city. We're an island. The river is on one side and both our eastern boundaries and the southern boundaries, the northern and western boundaries are the lake.

LAVANDERA: So this water threat surrounds you?

MATTE: Yes, absolutely. Absolutely, well, you can see it's just starting to lap up under the planks of the wharf. So the water's just is just now getting here. It will be water all the way.

Of course, it will touch this wall and extend all the way to that wall over there. Those buildings right there that you see across the way, those will be under water.

LAVANDERA: It's a staggering amount of water, isn't it?

MATTE: It is, when you look at it from this perspective. Like I said, our people and nor has anyone else seen anything like this, not here, not in this spot.

LAVANDERA: You're confident about these walls holding up?

MATTE: I have to be, yes. Have to be.

LAVANDERA: If for whatever reason they fail --

MATTE: Total catastrophe. This entire city would flood, without a doubt.

LAVANDERA: Are you angry that they're opening up the Morganza spillway?

MATTE: Am angry about it, not really. I think we all lived with the idea that, hey, we know this is the potential, this is what this whole floodway system is for. We wouldn't want to live anyplace else, but that's part of what comes with it.

But certainly this is a floodway. It is built as a floodway. There was no -- that decision was made way back in '28 and the '30s and all that, after the '27 flood, this was the design. So from that perspective, that's what it's here for. It's here to provide that relief valve for the river.

LAVANDERA: This where the water level reached here in '73?

MATTE: In '73, yes.

LAVANDERA: And this is part of the wall that held it back? MATTE: That's correct.

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LAVANDERA: Fredricka, now we're about 100 miles north of Morgan City. This is the dry side of the Morganza flood structure and we're told now that about 3:00 Central Time, 4:00 Eastern, if you look about halfway down this flood structure, one of those gates, perhaps two later on today, will be opened up. And all this area that you see out here behind me will begin to fill up with water. Fredricka --

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much. Ed Lavandera. We'll check back with you throughout the day.

All right, meantime, up river, the state of Mississippi is dealing with its worst flooding in decades. Floodwaters have swamped low lying areas around Vicksburg, Greenville and Tunika.

And hundreds of homes are evacuated. Prime farmland is also under water and an economic lifeblood, casinos are now shut down. And now a new warning from the Mississippi State Health Department, it is telling people to be careful with fish or crayfish from the floodwaters. The water could contain bacteria plus oil, gas, diesel and fertilizers.

An imam from Miami and four family members are charged with providing support to the Taliban in Pakistan. FBI agents say they have arrested Khan and his sons. Three others are being sought in Pakistan, including Khan's daughter and grandson. An indictment alleges they all conspired to provide material support in a conspiracy to kill, injure and kidnap people abroad.

As for the raid on Osama Bin Laden's compound, former President George W. Bush calls it a great victory in the war on terror. Bush told hedge fund managers in Las Vegas that we got a call from President Obama telling him about the raid and Bin Laden's death. President Bush says he responded by saying, quote, "good call."

Pakistan's parliament meantime today condemned America's action and its lawmakers are warning the U.S. not to conduct any more unilateral operations in their country. That includes drone strikes.

Otherwise, they say they might cut access to a key facility that NATO uses to move troops into Afghanistan. Among the items that Navy SEALs found inside Bin Laden's compounds -- lots of hard core pornography. It's not clear whether it belonged to Bin Laden or someone else.

And since the raid, relations between the U.S. and Pakistan have been strained, to put it mildly. Let's bring in CNN's Stan Grant who's in Islamabad. So, Stan, you know, it seems neither side trusts the other. What are you hearing?

STAN GRANT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Fredricka. You know, this relationship, to be frank, has probably never really been based on trust. It's really been about strategy, if you go back before 9/11, there was a period when the U.S. cut off aid entirely to Pakistan.

After 9/11, the relationship did change. Pakistan signed on with the war on terror and a lot of money has been flowing this way in the wake of Osama Bin Laden's death, there have been a lot of questions asked, especially in the United States, about what was actually known here.

Well, those questions also being asked here. There was a joint seating of parliament. The heads of the military and the intelligence service giving evidence, we understand reportedly it was quite a fiery meeting in part.

But at the end, there was a resolution to condemn this action by the United States, this incursion into Pakistan air space, this disrespect, as they say for Pakistan's sovereignty carrying out this attack on Osama Bin Laden.

And the warning, as you mentioned there, if there is another unilateral action, even a drone strike, which have been very common over the past years here, we're going to see a retaliation from the government here.

And the disruption to the supply lines, the NATO supply lines that of course are so essential. They pass through Pakistan into Afghanistan and are crucial for the war across the border in Afghanistan. Fredricka --

WHITFIELD: So I wonder, you know, Stan, is NATO at all concerned about what Pakistan says it might do by cutting off routes if indeed drone attacks were to resume or continue?

GRANT: No direct responses yet. Of course, these are only words right now. You don't have to go very far to find anti-American feeling in Pakistan. A lot of people in Pakistan point the finger and say, you brought the war to our doorstep.

They blame that for the thousands of Pakistanis who have been killed in terrorist attacks since 9/11. But one thing NATO would be concerned about, if you don't have a reliable ally in Pakistan, if Pakistan is not going to keep those supply lines open, it is going to have a huge effect on the war in Afghanistan.

If you listen to President Barack Obama, he talks about this as Af-Pak. It's not just Afghanistan, it is Pakistan and despite the tensions, despite the disagreements and despite the lack of trust.

At the end of the day, they're going to have to find a way to work together or the situation with the militants on this side of the border and the other is certainly not going to get any better. Fredricka --

WHITFIELD: Stan Grant, thanks so much, in Islamabad. Appreciate that.

We're going to touch on a case that has quite a few people fired up in this country, a mother with Stage IV cancer losing primary custody of her children. But is there more to this story? Our legal guys will be weighing in straight ahead.

Plus, the Republican presidential field grows larger, the newly declared candidates next.

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WHITFIELD: All right, two big-name Republicans are officially in the run for the U.S. presidency, former House Speaker, Newt Gingrich, and Congressman Ron Paul officially throwing their hats into the ring this week. In speeches to supporters, both candidates focused on the power of government.

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NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The most radical statement about political power in human history. Our founding fathers asserted in the Declaration of Independence literally that power comes from God to each one of you personally. You are personally sovereign and you loan power to the government. The government does not loan power to you.

RON PAUL (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: One thing the American people want and I agree with them, they want a strong president. There is no doubt about that. But the question you should ask, where should the strength be directed?

Should the strength of a president be directed toward building the TSA and Homeland Security and policing the world? No, the strength and the character of the individual should be directed towards standing up for freedom, standing up for liberty and restraining government. That's where the strength should be.

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WHITFIELD: CNN's Deputy Political Director, Paul Steinhauser live now from Washington. All right, let's talk about the strength and weaknesses of these candidates.

Let's begin with Gingrich. One has to wonder whether his personal matters will overshadow his mission.

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Yes, they could, but let's start with strengths though. He's known as a big thinker, an ideas man in the Republican Party so that's good, Fred. Also he's a man who's well-known. He's got a lot of name recognition. That helps when you're running for president. That's helps a lot when you're running.

Plus he's had a long resume, a lot of experience. But, you know what? Some of those pluses are minuses. Let's start with that, a long resume, right? Well, I guess, is he yesterday's news then? Is he definitely not a fresh face?

Also, he's well-known. That's good, but maybe not so well-loved. In fact, his favorable numbers are not so high. And then Fred, you mentioned it. His private life definitely could be weighed in on here.

Three marriages, he's admitted to an affair. That could hurt him with social conservatives who are crucial, crucial voters in the Republican primaries especially in such states as Iowa and South Carolina, which kick off the calendar, Fred.

WHITFIELD: So what about Ron Paul? How will his strength and weaknesses be measured?

STEINHAUSER: This is the third bid for Ron Paul for the White House, once as a libertarian in '88 and again four years ago for the Republican nomination. Listen, he's got devoted followers. They are energetic and enthusiastic. I've seen on the campaign trail.

They make a lot of noise. They love this man. He could raise a lot of money on a dime. We saw those money bombs in the last presidential campaign. He can raise millions online and he's done it again.

The negatives, I guess, for him, the weaknesses? Well, some of his vision, some of his views on such policies, foreign policies, national defense, monetary policies are out of the mainstream of most Republicans. You know what a lot of Republicans just don't think he could win the nomination, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right, and then there's the name of Mike Huckabee, not officially in it, but his name has certainly been, I guess, teasing, being used to tease the audience. What's it going to be? Might he make an announcement tonight?

STEINHAUSER: Yes, he said he will announce tonight on his program on the Fox News Network whether he will or won't run for the White House. I think a lot of people think he will not. In fact, I was reaching out to one of his advisers this morning who is very close, tightly lipped, wouldn't tell much of anything, said stay tuned.

But look at what he's done so far. Not a lot when it comes to running for the White House. He really hasn't been out there campaigning. He's not been raising money, which is crucial. A lot of his staff from the last time around, he's let them go with other candidates.

But, Fred, take a look at this recent poll from CNN. You can see right there, nearly three out of four Republicans say they want him to run for their party's nomination. It's higher than anybody else and if you look at the polls, Mike Huckabee is usually number one or number two. So I guess that's the flip side. Stay tuned on Mick Huckabee.

WHITFIELD: All right, thanks so much. Paul Steinhauser, appreciate that.

All right, so maybe it's not politics that has you focused right now, but instead you're thinking about summer travel. So what's the best way to keep your belongings safe while on the go? That's straight ahead.

Plus, why has the judge in the Casey Anthony case called everyone back to the courtroom on a weekend? It's all next right here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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WHITFIELD: All right, the summer travel season is nearly here so it's time to brush up on ways to actually travel smart. It all begins with your luggage. Joe Carter has more in this edition of "On the Go."

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JOE CARTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The best way to protect your belongings is to use a carry on, but it's not always possible to fit all your stuff in one bag.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you do have to check luggage, make sure that you keep all of your small valuables, jewelry, cameras, things like that with you in your carryon bag.

CARTER: Make sure your connections are not too close together.

MARK ORWALL, TRAVEL AND LEISURE: You might make it on to the next flight, but maybe your bag won't because the connecting time was too tight. What's going to happen then, your bag can be left out in the open next to the unclaimed baggage area overnight. Just inviting theft.

CARTER: Airlines limit the amount of money they'll reimburse for stolen items. Bag insurance is available in airports for about $10 a person.

ORWALL: It can even give you some compensation for purchases you might have to make if your luggage is delayed.

CARTER: And you need to know exactly what you packed.

ORWALL: Make an inventory and even take a picture of it. That will help you in the long term if you have to get a reimbursement.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: All right, we're going to talk about some legal cases that might have caught your attention. A mother accused of child abuse for allegedly telling her child to get up and fight. Where is that legal case going? That's straight ahead with our legal minds.

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WHITFIELD: All right, it may be the weekend, but prospective jurors are back in court today in Clearwater, Florida. Lawyers are still trying to seat a jury to hear the murder case against Casey Anthony. She's the Florida mother accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter nearly three years ago. Anthony has pleaded not guilty. Lawyers want 12 jurors and eight alternates. So far, eight people have been selected. Is justice possible with a confederate flag flying outside a courthouse?

A man sentenced to death says, no and he says the makeup of a jury is another reason his murder conviction should be thrown out.

Let's bring in our legal guys, Avery Friedman, a Civil Rights attorney and law professor in Cleveland and Richard Herman, a New York Criminal Defense attorney and law professor joining us from Las Vegas. Good to see you, gentlemen.

All right, Avery, you first. So Felton Dorsey who is black who was convicted of killing a white man says that not only was this flag flying outside the courthouse a sign of intimidation, but on those grounds as well as the jurors that were selected, potentially prospective jurors felt threatened by that flag flying.

That he either deserves a new trial or maybe his conviction thrown out altogether. How are his attorneys going to argue this case?

AVERY FRIEDMAN, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: They're going to argue it forcefully because believe it or not, there's substance. The confederate flag represents liberty and justice for some.

And the fact is that when in 1861 there was treason, America was broken apart. The losers now have their flag hanging there. And the fact is that the area, Fredricka, is 48 percent black.

That flag represents oppression, slavery. That essentially is racist and I think the Louisiana Supreme Court should be given credit for taking the case.

I think they're going to vacate that conviction, but Mr. Dorsey is going to go back to trial and he's going to be retried for the murder as he should be.

WHITFIELD: So Richard, you agree the Supreme Court would take on this case is an indication that, perhaps, those justices might feel like something is awry here?

RICHARD HERMAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Unfortunately, Fred, the defense attorney did not raise the issue of the flag at any time during the trial. So the record on appeal has no objection by defense concerning the flag.

Therefore, the justices in the appellate decision are not even going to consider that argument. They are going to consider the fact that the argument that the claim the government picked an all-white jury.

There was 11 white and one black on the jury and that they intentionally disregarded black jurors. That is a violation, U.S. versus Batson. That is a real claim on appeal. That's the ground.

WHITFIELD: Might the argument be made that they are integral, though?

HERMAN: In fact, one black juror did say, look, I feel really horrible walking into this building with that confederate flag. But the flag's flown there for 60 years and there's been a lot of verdicts in that courthouse and nobody's raised this issue. It's not on the record, Avery. It can't be considered.

WHITFIELD: Avery, last word on that?

FRIEDMAN: It's one in the same. Whether it's confederate flag or knocking blacks off, the Supreme Court's going to take it. They're going to resolve reversal new trial.

WHITFIELD: All right, let's move on to another case now. This involves a woman, Alina Giordano who is a Stage IV cancer patient. She doesn't have a job. But she did have custody of her children until this court stepped in and said, no, you cannot have custody of your kids.

Kids have to move on to Chicago where her ex-husband is. So, Richard, I wonder, was this an issue of a judge saying the issue is that she is a cancer patient and that she has this terminal illness or is it the case of her not having a job?

HERMAN: Well, Fred, it's a bitter, bitter custody -- is there any other kind of custody battle other than bitter? In any event, this poor woman has been diagnosed late with Stage 4 breast cancer and the future probably doesn't look too bright for her.

However, what the judge has said in addition to the fact that she is terminally ill and going to be treating, she does not have a job, she has no means of employment and there are other issues concerning certain claims of domestic abuse in this case. It's just not the fact that she has breast cancer.

WHITFIELD: OK, Avery --

HERMAN: Also the judge relied on --

FRIEDMAN: Bottom line, bottom line --

WHITFIELD: There's a decision about what's best for the parent or what's best for the child --

FRIEDMAN: Well, it should be best for the child. This is cancer discrimination and should be reversed on appeal. The assumptions made about cancer, wrong, should be reversed. She's entitled to custody.

WHITFIELD: Let's move on to another case. This one has outraged a lot of people in a lot of different ways. Take a look at this video.

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WHITFIELD (voice-over): We're talking about a fight involving some teenage girls and the allegation here is this fight continued because there's a mother in the crowd of one of these young girls -- that's the mother right there, who's actually encouraging her daughter to fight, to hurt, to harm.

Richard, now this mother, April Newcome is facing child abuse charges for watching this happen, encouraging, inciting, or also escorting her daughter to the fight to say, something's going to happen here and I'm OK with it.

HERMAN: Yes, contributing to the delinquency of a minor. That's where it's coming down, Fred. You know, all she had to do was get a nice bowl of adobo and watch Manny Pacquiao fight last Saturday instead she tells her daughter, get up, hit her in the ribs and kick her in the behind --

WHITFIELD: And people are there with video cameras, they're taping it and making fun of it. This is entertainment.

FRIEDMAN: Yes, you know what? What's really pathetic here is that there are parents that do these sort of things. Bottom line, she should be convicted of contributing to the delinquency and child abuse. I don't think there's any question the video locks it up. Look for a conviction.

WHITFIELD: OK. Avery, Richard, thanks so much. We're going to talk to you again. We're going to talk about an interesting case involving an NBA player who says, you know that show "Basketball Wives," well the mother of my child is on that show, but we're not married so why is she a basketball wife? Anyway, it's a lawsuit that's now in court. You all are going to delve into that one.

Also, an imam in this country is accused of aiding the Taliban in Pakistan and he's not the only one allegedly. That story next.

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WHITFIELD: As we mentioned earlier, an imam from Miami, Hafiz Khan, and four family members, are charged with providing support to the Taliban in Pakistan. Susan Candiotti has been working this story. Susan joining us now from New York, what more can you tell us?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, there are - actually there's another imam as well. There's the father associated with a mosque in Miami as well as his son who also is an imam at a mosque in a suburb of Fort Lauderdale, a city called Margate.

As well as, let's see, you've got one other relative and three other people who have been arrested in Pakistan. Six people altogether, one of them in Los Angeles, two in South Florida and the three in Pakistan.

We want to say first of all that according to a law enforcement official, they tell CNN that there is no direct linkage to the killing of Osama Bin Laden. In fact, this is a - a financial investigation that had been going on, says the indictment, back to 2008 through last year, with allegedly transactions, money being collected from these two mosques in South Florida and the money being funneled to help the Pakistani Taliban in Pakistan.

What was the money being used for? It was supposed to help schools. It was supposed to - there was talk of taking down army officials, taking down Pakistan's president. And, in fact, there's a stunning quote that is contained in the indictment that is attributed to one of the people that's been charged and - and a conversation, and they're saying that - that the money - when they heard about a suicide attack that was successful back in 2009, that wound up killing seven U.S. citizens at a military post in Pakistan.

Allegedly, this was said - one of the defendants said, quote, "Declared his wish that God bring death to 50,000 more," - Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. So this is really just the tip of the iceberg in this investigation as well.

Susan Candiotti, out of New York, thanks so much. Appreciate that.

All right, just hours from now, the Mississippi River's floodwaters are expected to be pouring through the Morganza Spillway in Louisiana for the first time in nearly 40 years. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is expected to open the floodgates to protect Baton Rouge and New Orleans. Other areas in Southeastern Louisiana will also be getting that water.

Let's check in with our Reynolds Wolf. These really are dire measures. Not everybody is on board with this taking place, but this is a serious situation, with the Mississippi continuing to swell.

REYNOLDS WOLF, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It really is. It's one of those situations, Fredricka, where they're really choosing the lesser of two evils. If we were to allow - if they were to allow the water to continue its way down the Mississippi River, you had many communities that would be threatened, including Baton Rouge, perhaps even New Orleans.

Now, the area that you see that is shaded, this line that is shaded in red, that's the Mississippi River. Where you have it over in blue, these are the levees, basically, and you have the Morganza floodgates where they are planning on letting that water go through, as Fredricka mentioned, in the next couple of hours, which will be moving into this flood plain.

The problem is, this is also the home of some 25,000 people. It's about 3,000 square miles, this area that will be inundated by the floodwaters. At time it may actually go up in excess of 20 feet, and you have about 11,000 structures. So as this makes way past these levees, the levees will be getting very close to a place called Morgan City, which is home to another 12,000 people.

That is the scenario that we have.

You also have heard this phrase referred to as - with this thing called levee, so what exactly is a levee? Well, to show you what a levee is, let's show you a river that would not have the benefit of a levee.

In a flooding situation, the water escapes, the - the river banks flows out where at times it can be anywhere from miles inland, inundating communities. But when you have an area that is protected by levees, what you have is an artificial fortification right along the riverbanks, so as the waters tend to rise it will protect structures, towns, fields, what have you, on the side of the levees.

Now, Morgan City is protected by some levees. Let's hope, Fredricka, that it will be enough to protect it as these waters make their way through. It's not going to be something that's going to happen instantaneously.

WHITFIELD: Yes.

WOLF: It's one floodgate at a time, but it's going to be a long process that could take days, perhaps even weeks before we see the full effect.

WHITFIELD: All right. Well, we're hoping for all the best for the people there.

WOLF: You bet.

WHITFIELD: Thanks so much. Appreciate it, Reynolds.

Meantime, we're going to talk about some more legal cases straight ahead.

Former presidential candidate John Edwards is being ordered by the court to talk about his relationship with Rielle Hunter. Once again, what will he divulge? Our legal guys will be weighing in on that.

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WHITFIELD: All right, back to some of our legal cases here.

John Edwards is being forced to talk about his relationship with Rielle Hunter again. But why? Our legal guys are back, Avery Friedman in Cleveland, Richard Herman in Las Vegas.

Richard, did we not hear enough already? Why do we have to hear him be deposed once again?

HERMAN: That's good.

Well, you know Fred, during his first deposition - we're always talking about two different forms of justice, for the privileged and for the not privileged. So he goes to his first deposition, John Edwards, and he refuses to answer like three-quarters of the questions they asked him.

FRIEDMAN: Right.

HERMAN: So now objections are made to the court. So the judge says, I'm going to sit and listen. You ask him question and I'll make rulings on each one you object to right there. That doesn't happen in real life, Fred. Trust me, it doesn't happen like that -

FRIEDMAN: Oh, sometimes - sometimes it does.

HERMAN: Yes, but the - the judge has released certain documents to the press. He's waited until after this Edwards deposition. I think he's going to release everything. It should be out there except Edwards is stupid because he's under criminal investigation and he's waiving his Fifth Amendment rights here.

FRIEDMAN: No.

HERMAN: I can't believe he's giving depositions. It's unbelievable.

FRIEDMAN: No, he's not. No.

WHITFIELD: Wait a minute. So can you refuse - Avery, you can refuse to give a deposition?

FRIEDMAN: No - of course he can refuse.

HERMAN: Plead the Fifth Amendment.

WHITFIELD: Really?

FRIEDMAN: Yes. Look, here's the deal. This is a civil matter, a civil matter. When the judge (INAUDIBLE) - hold on. After the deposition starts in this civil matter, because there's a federal grand jury and some of the things that he's being asked will be incriminating, he's clearly going to be interposing his constitutional rights. He's clearly not going to answer certain questions.

So the bottom line on whether or not -

HERMAN: He should answer anything (ph).

FRIEDMAN: -- whether or not Ms. Rielle Hunter was actually his photographer for purposes of federal campaign funds will probably not be answered. I mean, there's - yes, she took pictures all right, but - but not for purposes of a federal campaign fund. And we're not going to see any of that evidence.

WHITFIELD: Yes. And also at issue is this infamous videotape, the one that the -

HERMAN: Yes.

WHITFIELD: -- the friend, Andy Young, found in the house that he was staying in.

HERMAN: Some friend.

WHITFIELD: But then Rielle Hunter says, that's my tape. So now at issue as well is who has ownership of this tape. Where is that going? Is it going to continue to go nowhere?

HERMAN: Well, very quickly, if you - no, no, no, no. If you put something in the garbage, Fredricka, do you consider that gone or do you believe you have a right of privacy? That's the question.

WHITFIELD: Oh, boy. Yes.

HERMAN: That's the issue here. And I think ultimately Andy Young may - I mean, he's fishing around in the garbage, but he may very well prevail in - in keeping that tape. Good shot.

WHITFIELD: Interesting.

OK, well let's - let's move on to Chris Bosh and the Miami Heat. Talk about shots. Is this a good shot? He is filing suit against the mother of his child for appearing on this reality TV show called "Basketball Wives," but, newsflash, she's not his wife, and he says this invades on his private life and so he says, Allison Mathis, cut it out already.

So, oh my goodness, how do you enforce this one? Where does a lawsuit like this go, Richard?

HERMAN: It goes in the garbage can, where it belongs because this guy made a decision -

WHITFIELD: Because she had the freedom to be employed wherever, right?

HERMAN: She - look, he made a free choice to be with this woman. They had a child together. She is recounting her experiences and her events with this guy.

You know, the best thing for her is that he's bringing this lawsuit. This brings her name up in the lights, gives her more publicity. He obviously has no value for money. He's wasting money on legal fees. It's ridiculous.

FRIEDMAN: No.

WHITFIELD: Oh, but didn't - Avery, doesn't he make a pretty good argument, that, you know, your private information should remain so even if you are a public figure?

FRIEDMAN: No.

WHITFIELD: No?

FRIEDMAN: Well yes, but I mean - no, wait a minute. I understand the argument. I mean, what are they going to do, rename the show "NBA impregnatees"? I mean, look, the fact is NBA wives indeed are going to be public - a lot of these people are not married, and, the fact is, it - on one respect, I do agree with Richard because this is free choice.

And you know what? The other interesting thing is - which is not even in the lawsuit - is what are the rights of the baby? I mean, he's the product of Chris and Allison. What about those rights in terms of the income derived from the show? Very - ultimately, it will have to be resolved by a probate court. So we'll see what happens.

WHITFIELD: OK. Well, you know, we can't have a weekend and talk about legal cases without talking about Lindsay Lohan. Does it not appear that it's like every week? I mean, come on already.

All right -

HERMAN: Yes. I mean, right. She's already on the agenda.

WHITFIELD: Oh, boy. All right, so this time we're talking about, you know, four months in jail, you know, 480 hours of community service. And now, too, L.A. is saying - or at least the prosecution is saying, wait a minute, no. Her - her charge should not be reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor. Why not, Avery?

FRIEDMAN: Because the L.A. Prosecutor's Office is saying that the judge abused her discretion and a three-judge panel may very well reverse her because the truth is the record showed that it did meet the elements of a felony. It should have stayed there.

But, in the meantime, it may all be mooted out because she's back there. She's entered her plea. She's going to do - she will - she will spend very little time, if any, and she'll do her community service. Let's see what the Court of Appeals does in reinstating the case. That remains to be seen.

HERMAN: Fred - Fred, it's -

WHITFIELD: So Richard - I mean, this has our heads spinning because, good Lord, I mean, in jail, out of jail. What - how many times does this go on?

HERMAN: It's two forms of justice. It's just celebrity justice.

Three convictions for DWI or driving while impaired.

FRIEDMAN: Yes.

HERMAN: A million types of probation. Probation violations each time. Another - there's a report now that before she stood up before the judge in February on the stolen necklace case, she had alcohol in her system the day before by probation.

FRIEDMAN: Yes.

HERMAN: It's unbelievable. They ought to put her in prison, but she's not. Alan Duke, covering it for CNN, he says one month house arrest. That's it. And I agree with him.

She's only going to get house arrest. These judges are afraid of her. And somehow -

(CROSSTALK) WHITFIELD: The judges are afraid of her?

FRIEDMAN: Wait a minute. Dial it down. Dial it down. Hold on.

I mean, the bottom line is -

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FRIEDMAN: But, again, the case isn't over. Let's see what happens. You know she's going to screw up.

HERMAN: I think it's over.

FRIEDMAN: She'll continue to be fined -

WHITFIELD: It's never ending.

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FRIEDMAN: -- our legal brief's agenda. She will stay with us from this point -

HERMAN: Yes. She'll violate probation - right. She'll violate probation again and nothing will happen.

FRIEDMAN: Yes. Unbelievable.

WHITFIELD: Except we'll be talking about it again.

FRIEDMAN: Keep heart. Keep heart. We'll keep talking about it. Right.

HERMAN: And, Fred - and Fred, you'll be tweeting about it @F -- @FWhitfield.

WHITFIELD: I know. Isn't it scary?

FRIEDMAN: No, she wouldn't. No, she wouldn't.

WHITFIELD: But I'll be reading your tweets. How's that?

HERMAN: OK.

WHITFIELD: All right. Richard, Avery, thanks so much. Always good to see you. Appreciate it.

FRIEDMAN: See you soon, Fredricka.

HERMAN: Have a great weekend.

WHITFIELD: All right. Bye-bye.

OK, Major League Baseball's a big civil rights and baseball celebration taking place right now, in the week - this weekend in Atlanta. A look at the events and some of the legends who will be there and at the game. You're looking at Centennial Park right now because a big youth summit is taking place right there, sponsored by MLB. We'll have much more about the overall weekend celebrations after this.

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WHITFIELD: Major League Baseball is hosting a weekend of baseball and civil rights celebrations in Atlanta, and it all leads up to tomorrow's throwback game between the Braves and the Philadelphia Phillies.

Let's check in with our Jennifer Mayerle. She's live in Atlanta with a taste of what's happening right now at Centennial Olympic Park.

Hi, Jennifer.

JENNIFER MAYERLE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, this morning - hi. There's - this morning has been a lot of fun and games, with pitching stations and batting cages. But now we're slowing things down a little bit and getting a little bit more serious.

There's a youth summit going on right now with a lot of former Major League Baseball players. Jesse Williams from "Grey's Anatomy" - as we know, when the civil rights movement, some baseball players really played a pivotal role -- Hank Aaron, Jackie Robinson. Hank Aaron will be celebrated later tonight.

And a lot of these baseball players who are up on stage right now, really commend them for helping them to get to where they got today. And those players are going to be talking to the youth, have a summit, kind of a question and answer session right now and telling them about how they got where they did and how these youth out here can succeed like they did.

We just talked to Jesse Williams with "Grey's Anatomy" and he told me that baseball really helped him with discipline, learning teamwork, and really learning to be a better all-around person. And that's the message that they're hoping to share with these folks who are out here today and really celebrating baseball and what baseball has to offer.

Of course, so many of these folks out here honor baseball and say that that really gave them the chance that they have today to be successful. So while it is a lot of fun out here, they're also giving people a message of how they can come far and how they can succeed in life - Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Jennifer Mayerle, thanks so much, at Centennial Park in Downtown Atlanta.

And I'll have an opportunity to talk with baseball commissioner Bud Selig tonight, and we'll be bringing you that interview as early as this evening and tomorrow on our 2:00 Eastern Time show. If you have any questions that you may want to ask Bud Selig, tweet me, @FWhitfield. All right, how many teenagers do you know who actually save their money? In a moment, you'll meet one young man who does that and more. Some advice that we could all probably use, next.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Now the story of a financially savvy and frugal teenager who could teach us all a thing or two about how to save. He's the focus of this segment of "Smart is the New Rich" from CNN's Christine Romans.

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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Every other Friday, Florida high school freshman Jordan Lane-Palmer deposits at least $10 of his allowance and lunch money into one of his four - yes, four - bank accounts.

JORDAN LANE-PALMER, HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMAN: Yes, it's cash.

You can save up for something better. Don't just spend it on something that really is worthless, just to spend money.

ROMANS: Sage advice for most adults, let alone teenagers. But Jordan, he got started early.

KIMBERLY LANE-PALMER, JORDAN'S MOTHER: The very first savings account was - was at the Credit Union.

ROMANS: And maybe it's that financial acumen that helped him win a contest sponsored by the nonprofit agency called the National Foundation for Credit Counseling. Jordan was one of 1,800 students across the country who submitted posters mapping out personal financial plans. This year's theme, "Be A Super Hero. Save Money."

He traveled to Washington, D.C. for the award and met Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke. Hey, a big day for the 14-year-old who started out small.

J. LANE-PALMER: I saved up for action figures back then.

ROMANS: Now he's saving for an iPod and someday -

J. LANE-PALMER: I know that we're definitely putting money aside for going to college.

ROMANS: Jordan credits his mother and grandmother.

K. LANE-PALMER: His major account is for his college, and then he has a savings account. Then he has a checking account, which is important because I wanted him to - to know what it's like to write a check.

BEA LANE, JORDAN'S GRANDMOTHER: I don't think it's too early, but you take a two-year-old to the store and you let them know, no, you can only have this one thing instead of five or six other things, you know? Or either/or. If you get this, you can't have this. If you get this, you can't have this.

ROMANS: Lessons passed down from generation to generation, and lessons Jordan has learned well.

J. LANE-PALMER: It's important to create a budget, first of all, so you wouldn't overspend. Create different accounts, like start saving from a young age. Make goals. Like if you start saving, what do you want to accomplish by when?

ROMANS: Christine Romans, CNN, New York.

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WHITFIELD: All right. So clever and cute.

An imam, meantime, in this country, is accused of aiding the Taliban in Pakistan, and he's not the only one. A live update from Susan Candiotti next.

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WHITFIELD: A look now at our top stories.

A massive amount of floodwater is about to be diverted from the Mississippi River. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is expected to open the Morganza Spillway today. The move should protect Baton Rouge and New Orleans, but that could mean major flooding in other areas of Southeastern Louisiana.

And at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, the countdown has begun for Monday's launch of the space shuttle "Endeavour." Astronaut Mark Kelly is commanding that flight. His wife, injured Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, is scheduled to attend that launch.

And as we've been telling you this past hour, an imam from Miami, Hafiz Khan, and four family members are charged with providing support to the Taliban in Pakistan. Susan Candiotti has been working on this story, joining us now from New York.

So what are they accused of doing?

CANDIOTTI: Well, they're accused of providing - conspiring to provide material support to the Pakistani Taliban. This is a terrorist organization that has been very significant over the past several years, raising money for the groups, donations raised at two different mosques. Two imams are charged, along with four other people.

Money to buy guns, to help fund schools over there, and the - as the conspiracy allegedly goes, to take down government officials in Pakistan.

WHITFIELD: So was this an undercover sting?

CANDIOTTI: We don't know exactly how this all came about initially, but we do know, according to the indictment, that they were tracking money, suspicious transactions involving these two imams. That money that was being funneled overseas to Pakistan, probably in the amount, according to the indictment, of somewhere more than $50,000.

WHITFIELD: OK, and so why are they so concerned about - you know, the Feds, preventing this money from reaching Pakistan?

CANDIOTTI: Well, the allegation is that it could help fund schools, buy weapons for the Pakistani Taliban. It's a terrorist organization that many of us should be familiar with because it was linked to, for example, the attempted bombing of Times Square just last year, and to an event as recently - a suicide attack yesterday in Pakistan that killed a number of people, that has also killed U.S. soldiers in Pakistan on previous occasions.

WHITFIELD: All right. Susan Candiotti in New York, thanks so much. We'll check back with you throughout the day, namely at 2:00 Eastern Time for an update on this investigation and where it goes from here.

Also at 2:00 Eastern Time, do you know what to buy the graduate in your life? Well, come back at that hour, 2:00 Eastern, and we'll give you some ideas. Financial gurus, that dynamic duo, the Dolans, they'll be here with us with some great graduation gift ideas.

"YOUR MONEY" starts right now.