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Schwarzenegger Has Secret Child; Global Fallout of Dominique Strauss-Kahn's Arrest; Investigating Mass Rape in Libya; Tips on Asking for a Raise; Pakistan Friend & Foe Signs; Hopes Still Built on DREAM Act

Aired May 17, 2011 - 11:00   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Live from Studio 7, I'm Suzanne Malveaux. I want to get you up to speed for Tuesday, the 17th of May.

Now we know why Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver split. The former California governor admits that he fathered a child outside his marriage. The mother was a longtime member of the household staff. Schwarzenegger says he told his wife after he left the governor's office in January.

Well, engineers plan to open more floodgates along the Mississippi River soon because they need to divert high water from New Orleans.

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DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Open floodgates, inundated floodways, thousands hit by floodwaters so New Orleans stays dry. The alternative, city officials say, would have been worse than Katrina.

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MALVEAUX: Water is pouring through 15 of 125 floodgates at Morganza, Louisiana, right now. A quarter of the gates will eventually be opened.

Well, downstream, water from the spillway is already overrunning some homes. As many as 25,000 could go under water in the next few weeks.

President Obama is welcoming Jordan's King Abdullah to the White House. That is happening today. The conversation is expected to center on the Arab uprising. On Thursday, the president is expected to lay out detailed U.S. viewpoints and a vision on events that are reshaping the Middle East.

Lawyers for IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn says their client has an alibi, lunch with another person at the same time that police say he was attacking a hotel housekeeper. Lawyers say his lunch part they are will come forward to vouch for his whereabouts. Strauss-Kahn is jailed at New York's Rikers Island. His next court day is Friday.

Pakistan says NATO troops wounded two of its soldiers today in a cross-border dustup. NATO will only confirm an incident, they say, but according to Pakistan, three NATO aircraft crossed into Pakistan from Afghanistan, and the two sides shot at each other. Pakistan vowed to defend its air space after that secret U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Well, Senator John Kerry, who traveled to Islamabad, says that Pakistan will return the tail of a U.S. helicopter. It clipped a wall during the Bin Laden raid, and experts believe that the helicopter was a stealth Black Hawk modified for quietness and avoiding radar. Now, Pakistan hinted that China would like to see it.

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FRAN TOWNSEND, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTOR: What you'll find is American officials will take the tail back, compare it to the photographs that we've often shown of the tail section, and try to make sure that we're not missing any pieces, that there was nothing left behind that the Pakistanis could reverse-engineer, or that they could still share with the Chinese.

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MALVEAUX: NATO stepped up attacks on the Libyan capital today. The alliance says it hit command and control and military training facilities. That happening in Tripoli. It also struck radar systems. Now, the Libyan regime says NATO attacked two government buildings.

Here is your chance to "Talk Back" on one of the big stories of the day. Is hyper-partisanship driving good candidates out of the presidential race?

Our Carol Costello has more on that.

That's a great question, Carol.

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I know. Politics isn't pretty, is it?

Republican presidential contenders are dropping like flies, and party insiders are scrambling, begging Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels and New Jersey's Chris Christie to get into the race. Christie said no way, and Daniels hasn't exactly sounded enthusiastic.

Maybe it's because they don't have the stomach for it. Those candidates that are likely to run are backing away from their more moderate views like Mitt Romney, who says as governor of Massachusetts, his health plan was nothing like President Obama's.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What we were doing in our state was quite different than that. It was a more modest proposal, if you will. And that was, we're not having government take over and run health care. Instead, we're trying to find a way to get people in our state that didn't have insurance insured. (END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Tim Pawlenty apologized for supporting cap and trade as a way to cut greenhouse gas emissions, all to appeal to the extreme right wing of party, those voters who decide primaries.

CNN contributor and Independent John Avlon says running for president is signing up to have your reputation destroyed from day one, and that polarization of the parties and the rise of the Internet have created a cannibalistic feeding frenzy.

Maybe that's why Mike Huckabee decided to bow out. His wife warned him it would be brutal. He surely realized that by saying this on Fox --

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MIKE HUCKABEE (R), FMR. ARKANSAS GOVERNOR: Only when I was alone, in quiet and reflective moments, did I have not only clarity, but an inexplicable inner peace. A peace that exceeds human understanding.

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COSTELLO: So, the "Talk Back" question today: Is hyper- partisanship driving good candidates out of the presidential race?

Facebook.com/CarolCNN, and I'll read your comments later this hour.

MALVEAUX: Inner peace and harmony not to run.

COSTELLO: I know. I just want to achieve that over something.

MALVEAUX: Whatever that inner peace was that he was feeling.

COSTELLO: I want that.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thanks, Carol.

Here's a look at some of the stories that we're covering in the next two hours.

First, we're learning more about the split between California power couple Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver.

And you'll hear what people in Europe are saying about the arrest in this country of the head of the International Monetary Fund.

Also, we're going to take a trip to Vicksburg on streets now 11 feet under water.

And we're going to look at whether now is a good time to ask for a raise.

Plus this -- (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

THELMA GUTIERREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You left Mexico City to come here for a better life, and yet you're living in this trailer park and really struggling.

I mean, is this kind of what you were dreaming where you would end up?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, not even close.

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MALVEAUX: CNN's Thelma Gutierrez talks with kids who dream of better days.

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MALVEAUX: Former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger admits fathering a child with another woman. The admission comes just days after Schwarzenegger and his wife, Maria Shriver, announced that they were getting separated.

Now, he says the affair happened more than a decade ago. He issued a statement apologizing to his family.

CNN's Casey Wian joins us from Los Angeles.

And Casey, what do we know about what has taken place or even the mother of the child? Is anybody talking about that?

CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, no one's talking about that for the record right now, this morning. And it's hard to believe that Arnold Schwarzenegger could become even more controversial after his two terms as California governor than he was during that time, but he has.

As you mentioned, Schwarzenegger is acknowledging that before he ran for office in 2003, he fathered a child with a member of his household staff. In a statement, Schwarzenegger said, "After leaving the governor's office, I told my wife about this event which occurred over a decade ago. I understand and deserve the feelings of anger and disappointment among my friends and family."

"There are no excuses and I take full responsibility for the hurt I have caused. I've apologized to Maria, my children and my family. I am truly sorry."

Now, the story was first reported by the "Los Angeles Times" and has now been confirmed by CNN. The woman worked for the Schwarzeneggers for 20 years, retiring just in January. The former governor has also been providing financial support for the child since the birth.

Now, only a week ago, Schwarzenegger and his wife, Maria Shriver, announced that they had separated after 25 years of marriage. At that time, the couple said they were working on the future of their relationship. And, of course, that relationship was strained before the 2003 gubernatorial election, when more than a dozen women came forward claiming that Schwarzenegger groped them.

Back then, Schwarzenegger apologized and Shriver stood by him. At one point, the governor was so popular here in California, that some Republicans were actually considering trying to change the Constitution to allow a foreign-born candidate to run for president. But by the time he left office, Suzanne, in January, his popularity was diminished by California's massive budget deficits, and now there's this.

MALVEAUX: And Casey, do we know, have we heard from Maria Shriver about this? Do we know about whether or not she learned about the child and the affair, the timing of all of this? Has she spoken out?

WIAN: We don't know. CNN has reached out to a representative for Maria Shriver. We have not heard back yet.

But what we do know is that on Friday, when we just knew that this was a split in the marriage, and we didn't know why, Maria Shriver issued a tweet saying, "Thank you for all the kindness, support and compassion. I am humbled by the love. Thank you."

That's all we've heard from her, and that was last Friday -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: OK. Casey Wian, thank you so much.

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MALVEAUX: And lawyers for the international finance chief accused of sexual assault says he has an alibi. Dominique Strauss- Kahn's attorney says that he was having lunch with someone else at the time of the assault. Strauss-Kahn is accused of attacking a housekeeper at a luxury hotel in New York. Charges include one count of first degree attempted rape, several other counts.

His lawyer says he's innocent. Strauss-Kahn is jailed without bail on New York's Rikers Island until his next court appearance, which is scheduled for Friday.

Charges against the head of the International Monetary Fund rattled the financial world, as well as the world of French politics. Strauss-Kahn has been considered a top candidate for the president of France.

Well, our correspondents, they take a look at the global fallout from his arrest, starting in Paris.

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IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Ivan Watson, in Paris. The French media is already writing Dominique Strauss-Kahn's obituary, with front page headlines like "The Fall of Strauss-Kahn," "The Scandal Which Changed Everything." Ordinary French citizens and the political elite are shocked at images of Strauss-Kahn being led by police, being arraigned in court. Perp walks and cameras in courtrooms are not a common practice here in France. The leader of Strauss-Kahn's socialist political party tried to remind French people that Strauss-Kahn should be presumed innocent until he is proven guilty.

Ivan Watson, CNN.

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JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm John Defterios at the European Union headquarters in Brussels, where the charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn dominated procedures here.

The real news, the jockeying for the new position traditionally held by a European. European finance ministers want to keep that tradition alive.

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MALVEAUX: Rape is allegedly being used as a weapon of war by Gadhafi's forces, and sexual enhancement drugs may be offered as part of the evidence. That is something the chief international prosecutor is investigating, and he spoke exclusively with our CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson. Nic joins us from London.

And Nic, can you explain what these allegations are and the evidence that they are now supporting this?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The allegations have arisen from what opposition members have said they discovered inside some of Gadhafi's military camps. When they've gone in to raid the military equipment, get guns and weapons, they've also found what they've said is Viagra or similar sexual enhancement products.

They allege that these products have been used in the systematic rape of women by Gadhafi's forces, gang rape in many cases. And that's what the chief prosecutor says that he's going to investigate.

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LUIS MORENO-OCAMPO, PROSECUTOR, ICC: They are rapes. The issue is who organized them?

ROBERTSON: And you believe it's institutional?

MORENO-OCAMPO: They were committed in some police barracks, where the policemen prosecuted what happened. There is some information there was Viagra. So Viagra is a tool of massive rapes. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: Now, the chief prosecutor told me he didn't know how many women had been raped in this way, but opposition leaders have told me they believe it's many hundreds of women that have actually been picked up by Gadhafi's forces and then gang raped in this way -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Nic, such a disturbing story. And I know that perhaps one of the best known alleged rape victims in this case in Libya is that of Eman al-Obeidy. You spoke with her extensively and, in fact, you had the first full interview with her.

What is she saying about this?

ROBERTSON: Well, she's saying that she's happy to have her freedom. She managed to get out of Libya, into Tunisia, but she didn't feel safe there because it was so close to what she feared were Gadhafi agents who could follow her across the border.

She's in Doha, in Qatar, another 2,500 miles away. And that's where she told me she really begins to feel free, that she can actually breathe again, that she can enjoy some of the things in her life.

But I asked her very specifically about what she went through and how she managed to cope, and what she wanted to happen to those people who brutally attacked her when raping her.

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EMAN AL-OBEIDY, ALLEGED RAPE VICTIM (through translator): I was telling myself to defy them. These animals cannot slip without punishment. I must speak out no matter how much people would talk about me and would blame me and would ask, how could a Libya woman and a Muslim go on the media and say this? All these things did not matter to me.

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ROBERTSON: And when I spoke to the chief prosecutor, he told me that Eman al-Obeidy's case was typical of those that he hopes to begin to investigate. Hers, he said, was really the one that caught the headline, but there are so many others. He's afraid, fears, along with others, that may have been some kind of common practice. That's what he's going to investigate -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: OK, Nic. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Getting paid. We're going to look at how much some industries are paying and what goes into your salary. "CNN In Depth: America's Job Hunt," up next.

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MALVEAUX: Time now to lay out the choices for today's "Choose the News." Tell us which story you'd like to see by texting 22360.

First, Pakistan's growing alliance with China. We're taking a closer look at what it could mean to the United States in the wake of the Osama bin Laden raid.

Second, details of the special victims unit, officers who arrested the head of the International Monetary Fund.

Also, Dominique Strauss-Kahn was caught on a plane just moments before takeoff from Kennedy Airport.

Third, a country going cashless. South Korea's government is helping residents leave their wallets at home.

So vote by texting 22360. Text 1 for "Pakistan's Alliance with China"; 2 for "Special Victims Unit"; or 3 for "Country Going Cashless." The winning story is going to air in the next hour.

Want to also quickly check here CNNMoney.com's lead story. This is about Ivy League degrees, but no job. These are young job seekers who graduated. The worst market, labor market, since the Great Depression and how they're dealing with that.

Also, a quick check of the markets. The Dow Jones down 129 points or so. Keeping a very close eye on that -- 130 at this moment.

Also, this week "In Depth," CNN focusing on "America's Job Hunt." We're collaborating with CNNMoney.com and "TIME" magazine to look at where the jobs are, how to get them, and even how to keep them.

Want you to watch our weeklong coverage. Log on to CNNMoney.com, TIME.com for more reporting on "America's Job Hunt."

Now, whether you have a job or you're looking for one, salary, of course, an important part of the equation, obviously, "In Depth" today, on "America's Job Hunt." Look at how much the industries are paying and what's actually going into your paycheck.

Alison Kosik joining us from the New York Stock Exchange to talk about that.

Alison, how are salaries -- how do they even come up with them in the first place?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: It really makes you wonder, right, Suzanne?

Well, it may be a surprise that these hiring managers just don't pull out a salary figure out of their file folders. You know, there are really some main factors that go into what your pay is.

And we talked to an analyst at PayScale.com who says, typically, the most important factors are your education and your experience or skills. And then, of course, there's also location, so you'll see the highest salaries in California and New York, and that's understandable when you consider what the cost of living is in those places. So that's really important to know so that when you actually go in for salary negotiation, you go in with some realistic expectations.

So, keeping that in mind, we went ahead and picked a few industries to look at it more closely, starting with the legal sector.

Now, most people, when they hear legal careers, they think about lawyers making six figures. And that's because of the additional education that you need. But you know what? The salaries with this field, they run the gamut.

There's the entry level law clerk who makes somewhere around $30,000, and the paralegal, who makes around $55,000. And, no, you don't have to go to law school for these jobs, because most clerks and paralegals have a bachelor's degree only. So that's something to keep in mind if you don't have time to go to school -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Alison, what about the jobs that don't require as much education? How do they fare in terms of how much you're getting?

KOSIK: Well, if you think about it, with any industry, salaries really are in a range, and there's usually room to move up. And even looking at the retail industry, you'll see a six-figure salary there, too. But again, that's for someone like a retail pharmacist. You know, somebody at your local drugstore. That requires more schooling.

But you can make a livable salary without having an advanced degree. You can be a retail buyer. Those are the folks who pick what stores actually sell. They make in the $50,000 range.

Another area where you don't need as much education to break in, in hotels and restaurants. There, a waiter or a line cook with a high school diploma makes only around $20,000, but if you go ahead and work your way up to executive chef, or hotel manager, the average winds up bumping to about $50,000, and you can get upwards of $65,000 for a salary in those positions.

Now, with that industry, a lot of people wind up going to a trade school or get two-year associates degrees. So, just keep in mind, Suzanne, the theme in all this is really education and time.

If you have the education, you wind up starting out at a higher salary, and that can wind up affecting your earnings over your career, over time. But if not, you can still get in at a low level and slowly work your way up and prove yourself. You know, once you're in the door, really prove yourself and show what you can do -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Education and experience, good things. Alison, thanks. I know you're going to be back with us later this hour --

KOSIK: I will.

MALVEAUX: -- and you're going to tell us whether or not it's a good time to ask for a raise.

She's going to have tips on how to ask for more money. Across the Mississippi delta, flooding is now going from bad to worse.

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SHERIFF MARTIN PACE, WARREN COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI: Just in this area that we're traveling, we probably have 100 homes, most of which I don't see much hope of ever being able to be repaired.

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MALVEAUX: You're looking at parts of Vicksburg, a historic city now battling a record flood. More on that in two minutes.

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MALVEAUX: And 14 feet above flood stage, that is the water level at historic Vicksburg, Mississippi, and it is still rising. The Mississippi River is not expected to crest there for another two days.

CNN's Martin Savidge takes us into one neighborhood by boat.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): How bad would you describe the situation here?

PACE: It's bad. It's as bad as it gets. Thank God, we haven't had any loss of life, but in terms of property damage and the lives affected, it's bad.

SAVIDGE: Any idea how many homes, how many businesses impacted?

PACE: We have just over 1,700 residents in Vicksburg and Warren County as a whole that have had to leave their home. Now, not all because of flooding. Some, in the northern part of the county, because the community has become completely surrounded by water. And they left because of the isolation. But just in this area that we're traveling, we probably have 100 homes, most of which I don't see much hope of ever being able to be repaired.

SAVIDGE: Despite as bad as it looks, everybody got out. Like this house here we look at, of course, you know, water up to the first story.

PACE: Yes, everyone was able to get out.

SAVIDGE: There was plenty of warning, plenty of time.

PACE: Yes, plenty of warning. The National Weather Service, Corps of Engineers updates information hourly. So the residents of this community had plenty of time to get out.

Unfortunately, some of the property, the contents of these homes, they weren't able to remove everything. So you're going to still have a tremendous property loss.

This speaks to the tragedy here. This is an elevated home. This home is probably 10 feet off the ground, and they thought that they would be OK. You see the children's toys on the porch, but even the elevation has not prevented damage from this flood.

SAVIDGE: And this water is going to probably go even higher.

PACE: It'll still go up higher. We're still looking at another foot. We're in right at 11 feet of water.

SAVIDGE: Eleven feet of water on a city street. It's not often you see that.

PACE: No. This house, I know these people personally. They built that house off the ground high enough as did these other two thinking that a flood would never affect them again and we are in 11 feet of water in the street in front of their house. These are homes, obviously you can tell from the age have flooded before. Never like this.

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MALVEAUX: On the phone with me is Bette Paul Warner. She's a realtor in the Eagle Lake area of Vicksburg. This is a community that is virtually a ghost town right now.

And thank you for joining us.

Obviously you've lived in this community for more than 60 years. You're a member of the Army Corps of Engineers, but you're also a realtor. You know this community like the back of your hand.

What is taking place now, how are people coping the fact that they have to leave their homes now, deserted?

BETTE PAUL WARNER, REAL ESTATE AGENT (via telephone): They're devastated. A lot of people have left homes, they're not coming back. They've moved to Vicksburg. They've moved to other places. They're just devastated.

MALVEAUX: How do you know that they're not coming back? Are they telling you, we're giving up on our community here, we can't afford it?

What are they telling you?

WARNER: They're telling me that they've moved. They've bought other homes in town. They just -- they don't want to go through this again.

MALVEAUX: Have they gone through it before? Or is this something like you've never seen in.

WARNER: This is something they've never seen and they're scared. It's a retirement community. A lot of people are older and they don't want to -- they can't go through this again.

MALVEAUX: Were they able to leave with any of their belongings? I know they had to abandon their homes. But were they able to take anything with them?

WARNER: Yes, they were able to take -- we were given plenty of notice to take everything with us.

MALVEAUX: And where are they actually moving to? Is it around the community or are they moving far away, are they with relatives?

How are they coping?

WARNER: A lot of people are living with their relatives. A lot of people have just moved to other homes in Vicksburg, which is about 25 miles south of Vicksburg.

MALVEAUX: This is a very unique community. You said it's a retirement community. Does that make it harder for people to cope with a disaster like this? Are there unique problems that they are going through right now?

WARNER: Yes, it is. Yes, it is.

MALVEAUX: You can describe for me what some of the residents are telling you?

WARNER: The residents rely on me because I did work for the Corps of Engineers and I can give them -- I talk to the Corps. They're very -- they talk to me a lot. I talk to them. And they update me daily on what's going on and people know that at Eagle Lake and they let me know what's going on. And when they hear rumors they call me and that's what, you know, a lot of people moved out. And I calmed them down a lot.

MALVEAUX: And what do they tell you that they need the most right now?

WARNER: Right now they want to move back home. A lot of them are scared. That's what most of us want to do. But a lot of them are scared. They're older. They want to just -- you know, they want to be safe again.

MALVEAUX: And finally, Bette, what is your situation? Are you living with relatives? Are you able to stay in the community? How are you doing?

WARNER: I'm living in Edwards, Mississippi with my family, my brother-in-law. My brother, my sister-in-law, my mother and my husband.

WARNER: Well, Bette, we wish you the very best, you and the community there. Please keep us posted. Let us know what ends up happening. We appreciate it.

WARNER: I thank you very much. MALVEAUX: Flooding is also a concern for the people in the northeast today.

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Well now, if you can believe this, it may be a good time to ask for a raise. We're going to have some tips on ways to increase your salary. More in depth coverage of America's job hunt.

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This week CNN in depth focuses on America's job hunt. We are actually collaborating with CNNmoney.com and "TIME" magazine to look at where the jobs are, how to get them, how keep them. Watch our weeklong coverage. Log on to CNNmoney.com and TIME.com for more reporting on America's job hunt.

But today we are focusing on getting paid. That is right. Earlier we talked about what determines your salary. Well now, want to take a look at ways to pump up your paycheck.

Alison Kosik, joining us from the New York Stock Exchange.

Alison, I think it's hard for some people to believe this, but is now a good time to ask for a raise?

KOSIK: It very well could be. You know, and this is really an overall just nerve-racking experience. So it is kind of good to know that for the first time in several years, employers actually may have some wiggle room now so we are seeing increases in pay. But those raises, keep in mind, are still very small and overall salaries are only a little bit higher than where they were four years ago, up about three percent because of just the beating we took during the recession.

I want to show you where those salaries kind of have been and where we are now. Take a look. But employers have been raising those salaries since last spring. You know, the economy is picking up and companies are making money again. But, you know, looking at the size of the bars on your screen, you can see there's still a lot of caution out there. You're not going to see your boss just walking out into the office and saying, hey, I think you deserve a raise today. So, you know, it's not really going to be that outward, especially since the increases today don't even come close to what we saw before the recession hit.

But, Suzanne, the takeaway here is that employers do have the cash and they are letting go, at least, of a little of it.

MALVEAUX: That's some good news, Alison. Well, how do you move up and get the pay raise? Do you always have to go for a higher degree an educational degree?

KOSIK: Well, you know, you touched on something there because generally the more education you have, the more you're going to get paid. But not everyone has the time or the money to go back to school. And if it that's your situation, an analyst tells us the best thing you can do is look at your own skills and see if they're transferable to another job. Of course, a higher paying job.

A lot of technology jobs are very flexible in that way. For instance, you can go from being a programmer to working in the IT department. Or it can be something entirely different altogether, an entirely different career. People in TV, they go into public relations.

And if that idea doesn't work for you, you know, play at the system that's at your current job. Take on more responsibilities; learn something new to expand your own skill set. It's all about taking the initiative, making yourself more valuable to your employer and making them realize you can do more than one thing and be one of those really valuable employees who can move up the chain.

MALVEAUX: All right, life after television. Alison, there is a future for us.

KOSIK: There is.

MALVEAUX: Thanks. Good to see you.

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Well, Pakistani troops fire on U.S. helicopters along the Afghan- Pakistan border. The incident underscoring questions about whether Pakistan is a friend or a foe. Live report from Islamabad.

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MALVEAUX: We're seeing signs of Pakistan as friend and foe. On the one hand Pakistan is returning the tail section from a stealth helicopter that was used in the raid for bin Laden. But on the other hand, Pakistani forces fired on U.S. helicopters in the Afghan/Pakistan border. That happened earlier today.

So, our CNN's Stan Grant who's joining us from Islamabad, to kind of sort all of this out. Stan, first of all, tell us about this clash that happened on the border.

STAN GRANT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Suzanne, and the timing here is absolutely critical, isn't it, because John Kerry was here just 24 hours ago trying to restart this relationship with Pakistan. So much -- so much sensitivity about Pakistan, air space about Pakistan sovereignty, and that's what led to this clash today.

According to the Pakistan military, two NATO choppers crossed the border from Afghanistan into Pakistan airspace. The Pakistan military opened fire, the NATO choppers then also returned fire wounding two Pakistani servicemen, as well.

Now this is an incident that has happened in the past, but since the death of Osama bin Laden, it's brought so much of this really to the fore, so much mistrust, so much suspicious and it leads to situations like we've seen just here today. It really can't help at a time when the U.S. is trying to nail down this relationship -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: And, Stan, I can't help but note we are hearing the call to prayer behind you.

The clash, this border clash also comes it at the same time that you have Pakistan returning the tail of a U.S. helicopter that was used in the raid to kill Osama bin Laden. And so, obviously, that is something that the United States welcomes.

But it really begs the question here is Pakistan more a U.S. partner in the war against terrorists or is it turning on us? I mean, what is the sense there?

GRANT: There is a reflective attitude here, an anti-American feeling that doesn't take very much below the surface to find. Whenever incidents like the Osama bin Laden incident happens, you see these things come to the fore.

And certainly, over the past week or so, we've seen Pakistani officials reacting to criticism about what they did or did not know about bin Laden's presence here by pointing the finger back it at the United States and accusing the U.S. of not respecting Pakistan's sovereignty. So you can see there is a real trust deficit in the relationship, but you have to move beyond the trust and I think that's what Senator Kerry was looking to do there.

This is not really about trust, it's not even about a relationship, this is about a transaction at the end of the day. The United States puts a lot of money into Pakistan, it wants to see a return on that money. It wants to see Pakistan commit to fighting the insurgency on its side of the border so the United States can have a better impact across the other side in Afghanistan.

MALVEAUX: So to an extent both sides get what they want.

Stan, thank you very much, appreciate it. Now on to a security scare near Dublin, Ireland. The military found and diffused a bomb on a private bus that was headed for the city just hours before the queen of England arrived. This is Queen Elizabeth's first state visit to Ireland and the first by a British monarch since it gained independence in 1921.

She was greeted by the British and Irish ambassadors, then she made her way to the Garden of Remembrance. Now, it honors those who fought for Irish freedom from British rule. She and the duke of Edinburgh plan to be there for four days.

Well, you're sounding off on our "Talk Back" question. We're asking, "Is hyper-partisanship driving good candidates out of the presidential race?" Your responses just months away.

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Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee says he is not getting into the brutal race for the White House. You've been sounding off on our "Talk Back" question: Is hyper-partisanship driving good candidates out of the presidential race?

Carol, you've got responses.

COSTELLO: Good responses, Suzanne.

This from Douglas, "I'm sure some of the most qualified people will never have the opportunity to run, if they wanted, and would be kept out of the club all together if they did."

This from Paul, "I equate hyper-partisanship with closed-minded thinking. When you let that take over, you only see one solution and rule out alternatives arbitrarily. It will severely limit any GOP chances in 2012, because their candidate will not have mass appeal."

From Rob, "Expecting our politicians to be perfect turns them all into liars. Good candidates stay out because they don't want the tradeoff."

This from Phyllis, "What good candidates? Haven't seen any yet."

Continue the conversation, Facebook.com/CarolCNN, Facebook.com/CarolCNN. And I'll be back in, oh, 15 minutes.

Although, I understand you have something fun coming up next.

MALVEAUX: I always have fun for you. When someone says, OK, it's a bunch of bologna, they're saying, no, that's not the real deal. But check this out, this is an interesting story.

This is a bunch of bologna. This is like 385 pounds of Mexican bologna someone tried to smuggle into the United States. Customs agents say that Mexican bologna may include ingredients that aren't appetizing.

Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Usually it's a kilo or two or maybe one or two of the large rolls you would typically see at a deli.

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MALVEAUX: So, Carol, who knew? Bologna bust. This cannot compare to the one in 2003. This one -- 750 -- I believe 750 pounds of phony bologna got stopped at the border.

Who knew there was like a bologna, you know, underground that was happening here.

COSTELLO: For some reason -- I didn't really think bologna had all those wholesome ingredients anyway. But now that I know --

MALVEAUX: It's even worse than what you suspected.

COSTELLO: Yes. I'm never eating it again.

MALVEAUX: Do you know what it's made of? I just have no idea.

COSTELLO: I don't want to know. I know I loved it as a child --

MALVEAUX: There's a whole bologna market out there.

COSTELLO: Black bologna market.

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MALVEAUX: Right. Crazy. All right. Carol, we'll have more after the break.

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MALVEAUX: Arnold Schwarzenegger, the former California governor, is now admitting that he had an affair 10 years ago and that he fathered a child with someone who was working at his home for some 20 years.

We are now for the first time getting a statement from his wife, Maria Shriver. The statement now reads, "This is a painful and heartbreaking time. As a mother, my concern is for the children. I ask for compassion, respect and privacy as my children and I try to rebuild our lives and heal. I will have no further comment." This coming from Maria Shriver.

You may recall that Schwarzenegger and Shriver split up, said they were separated very, very recently, and Schwarzenegger says he after -- left the governorship told Maria Shriver, his wife, in January, about this affair and the child, as well.

Polarizing immigration bill known as the DREAM Act is now back on the political front burner. DREAM is an acronym for development, relief and education for alien minors. It would allow children who are here illegally a chance to get a college education or join the army as a path to citizenship.

Now this bill has failed twice, but our Thelma Gutierrez reports that the DREAM lives on for many children.

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THELMA GUTIERREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Somewhere in Phoenix is a tiny trailer park. People who know this place told us it's where the dreamers live.

Dreamers are kids who want to go on to college or serve in the U.S. military, but can't because they're undocumented.

We came here to meet two students. We can't identify them, because they're in the country illegally.

"Alex" is 17, he says he came to the from Mexico about four years ago on his own to chase a dream.

"ALEX," UNDOCUMENTED STUDENT: I had always dreamed of being a doctor. Well, when I came here and I started to study, I decided to become a neurosurgeon.

GUTIERREZ: A lofty ambition, but Alex is determined. He's also a top student at his school.

"ALEX": I'm kind of a straight-A student.

GUTIERREZ: Alex lives in this trailer with three other teenagers who are also dreamers. They work cash jobs, construction and yard cleaning, to pay for food, rent and utilities while they attend high school.

(on camera): You left Mexico City to come here for a better life, and yet you're living in this trailer park and you know, really struggling. I mean, is this kind of what you were dreaming where you would end up?

"ALEX": No, not even close.

GUTIERREZ (voice-over): A few doors away, "Jason" and his brothers live with their mother in a small trailer. He's also 17. He came from Mexico when he was a baby. He says his only allegiance is to the United States, and he's dreamed of serving in the military ever since he was a boy.

"JASON," UNDOCUMENTED STUDENT: I just really wanted to go in there. Like, I had plans and everything already.

GUTIERREZ: It was all mapped out. "Jason" is in ROTC, an officer training program for young students. He's also an honor student who hoped to enlist on his 18th birthday. When the DREAM Act was shot down last year, he said it was a blow that is indescribable.

"JASON": I was planning on joining the military with the DREAM Act, but since they didn't pass it, that kind of cancelled out my dream of going in there.

GUTIERREZ (on camera): How did that make you feel?

"JASON": It's just frustrating, not being able to follow your dream.

GUTIERREZ: Now that the DREAM Act has been introduced once again, "Jason" holds on to hope he'll be able to wear an Army uniform, and "Alex"" hopes someday he'll be able to go on to medical school.

Thelma Gutierrez, CNN, Phoenix, Arizona.

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