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Search and Rescue in Joplin, Missouri; Inside Booth Western Art Museum; President Obama in Ireland
Aired May 23, 2011 - 11:59 ET
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Face to face with a tornado that wiped away 25 percent to 30 percent of Joplin, Missouri. Huddled in darkness, 20 strangers ride out this storm in a storage refrigerator.
Top of the hour. I'm Suzanne Malveaux. I want to get you up to speed. Just watch and listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Got it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
There it is. There it is. Oh, gosh. That is a monster tornado.
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MALVEAUX: A tornado kills at least 89 people in Joplin, Missouri. Some 2,000 buildings are said to be leveled.
Now, that is what the tornado looked like from a distance. You're not going to see much in this next video, maybe a flicker of light here or there, but it really is the sound that we want you to experience, because there were 20 people who rode out this fierce storm, hunkered down inside a store's industrial-sized refrigerator.
Just listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're good. We're good. We're good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my God!
(SCREAMING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jesus! Jesus! Jesus!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you. I love you. I love everyone.
I love everyone, man. I love you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. Heavenly Father. Thank you, Jesus.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You guys all OK?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MALVEAUX: You probably imagine yourself in that situation. Every time I hear that I imagine myself in that room with those people.
Well, the man who recorded those terrifying moments, his name is Isaac Duncan, and he spoke with CNN this morning.
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ISAAC DUNCAN, TORNADO SURVIVOR: My buddy who was with me kind of had the idea that we should all run as fast as we can and get in that cooler. And so we just all jumped in the cooler, and it's pretty small, so everyone was pretty tight. You know, everyone was getting kind of crushed.
There was -- it was -- it just stored beer, so there was broken glass everywhere. Most of the people got cut pretty bad on their knees and hands and anywhere that was touching the ground.
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MALVEAUX: That is just one of many stories, a survival story. But as we had said before, there were those who died. Eighty-nine people now confirmed dead. And officials in Joplin expect to find more bodies in the wreckage of that town today.
And one of two hospitals in Joplin took a direct hit from this tornado. X-rays from that hospital were found in someone's driveway 70 miles away. A high school was also hit, and hundreds -- hundreds of homes have been damaged or destroyed.
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REV. C.J. CAMPBELL, TORNADO SURVIVOR: The floor began to vibrate and then shake very violently, and seemingly buckle. And we thought we were going to be sucked up the chimney.
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MALVEAUX: President Obama is getting regular updates on the deadly storm during his trip to Europe. And he took a moment in Dublin to call Missouri Governor Jay Nixon to express his sorrow. The president is ordering FEMA to get to Joplin and get to work.
The president also stopped by a pub in Moneygall, Ireland. That was just a short time ago. He picked up a Guinness.
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(CHEERING)
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: That's all right. I need one for the ambassador.
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MALVEAUX: Moneygall is home to 298 people, and one resident was Mr. Obama's great-great-great-grandfather who left for America back in 1850. Well, the president has returned to Dublin, where he is going to be giving a speech. We're going to have that for you live momentarily.
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TIM PAWLENTY (R), FMR. MINNESOTA GOVERNOR: I'm Tim Pawlenty, and I'm running for president of the United states.
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MALVEAUX: That announcement from Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty from his campaign Web site and social media. This is a live look at Des Moines, Iowa. That is where he's going to launch his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination, live and in person.
Well, new details about the former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, who is accused of sexually assaulting a hotel housekeeper. Well, according to a source with knowledge of the criminal investigation, two hotel receptionists say Strauss-Kahn invited them to his suite the day before the housekeeper was allegedly attacked. Both declined.
In a letter to the IMF staff, Strauss-Kahn expresses sadness and frustration at having to leave under a cloud but maintains that he did nothing wrong.
More now on our top story, the deadly tornado that tore through Joplin, Missouri. City officials say at least 89 people are dead, and rescue crews, they're searching for survivors, anyone who may be trapped and still alive.
Storm chasers recorded the massive tornado as it hit. Take a listen.
We want to go live to Joplin, Missouri, for the latest on the destruction, the search, the rescue efforts, all of that. Our CNN's Brian Todd is there.
And Brian, if you could, just paint a picture for us, the kind of damage you're seeing and what kind of efforts are being made now to find people alive.
BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Suzanne, as if the devastation wasn't enough, now rescuers have to deal with very severe weather. Thunderstorms have just rolled through here, lightning. You can probably still see it flashing in the sky on occasion.
They've got to comb through these neighborhoods, whole city blocks at a time that have been flattened. You see some people trying to come through and sift through some of the wreckage, trying to pick through some of their belongings. They're being told be very, very careful, because there could be fires, gas leaks. Downed power lines are all over the place here.
Also, vehicles are tossed all around, burned out, crushed. Look at this one. A telephone pole fell on it. It suffered other severe damage in the tornado, and obviously this isn't going to recover.
For some vehicles though, what they've done is they've come and put an "X" on them to check. That signifies to other potential rescuers they've checked this one here for any possible survivors, found no one in there, and have moved on. They're doing that all over the city now. But again, the weather, complicating things to a very, very severe degree.
This building, St. John's Regional Medical Center, took a direct hit from the tornado yesterday afternoon, moved right over it. Severe damage there. You can see, most of the windows blown out, part of the roof there might have been sheared off.
We were just told they had a patient population of about 183 people. We're told they did get everyone out, but no specific count right now on the number of injured from that hospital. And they're also worried now about maybe some structural problems if rescuers try to go in and find some other people.
They are going through these neighborhoods, combing through, trying to coordinate it, searching by grid, picking through homes, picking through buildings, trying to find people who might still be trapped inside. But again, Suzanne, the weather, a huge factor, and these thunderstorms are still kind of rolling through here.
MALVEAUX: All right, Brian. Thank you so much.
To find out more on how you can help those devastated by the tornadoes in Missouri, go to CNN.com/impact, and there you're going to find all the organizations and the ways that you can actually help those in need. That is CNN.com/impact.
Here's a look at what's ahead "On the Rundown."
First, making sense out of this unending rash of deadly tornadoes.
Then, getting to know Joplin. A closer look at this devastated city.
And President Obama, now visiting his ancestral homeland in Ireland. We're going to hear from him live in about 20 minutes or so.
And letters, posters, art collected from our nation's history. We go inside Georgia's Booth Western Art Museum.
And getting the house ready for real estate's busy spring home selling season. We'll give you some tips, more, up next.
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MALVEAUX: Our affiliates and other sources across the Midwest have been getting us some extraordinary video of this latest tornado outbreak and all of the destruction.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dude, the trees are debarked.
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MALVEAUX: There's one storm chaser driving through parts of Joplin right after the tornado hit, and you can see there's really not that much left. And that -- it's that way for miles.
Check out that tornado. This is from the air. Look at that. I mean, this is unbelievable.
Our affiliate KNBC had a helicopter tracking it. You can see how huge it is. It is at least a half a mile wide.
And before it formed, there were other tornadoes that took aim at the twin cities. One person was killed in the Minneapolis area. Almost two dozen others were hurt. Trees, power lines down in one neighborhood after another.
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MALVEAUX: Here's your chance to "Talk Back" on one of the big stories of the day. We're asking, should political wives matter?
Carol Costello with that question.
Hey, Carol.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: They seem to matter a lot these days. Right?
I mean, as you may know, Republican Governor Mitch Daniels has announced he is not running for president. And like Mike Huckabee before him, he cited family reasons for his decision. But Daniels' story comes with a whiff of scandal. His wife Cheri once left him for another man and then came back to the marriage.
After hearing people call his wife a bad mother for abandoning him and their four daughters, Daniels told this to "The Indianapolis Star": "The notion that Cheri ever did or would abandon her girls or parental duty is the reverse of the truth and absurd to anyone who knows her, as I do, to be the best mother any daughter ever had."
Wives have always mattered in politics, but something has changed. Political wives have now become game-changers, subject to the same scrutiny that every candidate has to endure. The problem now, many aspiring political wives have had their own lives, their own careers. They've even been divorced. And, therefore, they have more potential skeletons in the closet.
These days, political wives have to be the perfect combination -- traditional, yet not too interfering, and they have to appeal somehow to today's modern working woman. Gail Collins of "The New York Times" says candidates' wives should be off limits though and they should not campaign for their husbands either. "Finally, we could end the tradition that a presidential candidate's spouse is running for something, too. If we want a first family to obsess over, we should just hire a king and queen."
So, our "Talk Back" question today: Should political wives matter in elections?
Facebook.com/CarolCNN, and I'll read some of your comments later this hour.
MALVEAUX: OK. Thank you, Carol.
COSTELLO: Sure.
MALVEAUX: Images, it's really difficult to see of utter destruction. It is not the first time that Joplin, Missouri, has been hit by a tornado. We're going to take a closer look at a city that now looks like a war zone.
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MALVEAUX: Updating our top story, deadly tornado that slammed into Joplin, Missouri. Rescue crews, they are searching now for survivors who may be trapped under the rubble. The city manager says that at least 89 people are confirmed dead. That number, likely to go much higher. Search efforts have now been slowed down by another round of bad weather and by widespread devastation.
Carl Azuz is with us to go "Beyond the Headlines" and to tell us a little bit about this place that was hit, the city of Joplin.
CARL AZUZ, CNN STUDENT NEWS: That's right, Suzanne.
Joplin is located in southwest Missouri. It's about 130 miles south of Kansas City, in the four-states region, as you see on your map here.
Witnesses are telling us that the twister was half-to-three-quarters of a mile wide, if you can imagine that. The city is home to almost 50,000 people, but during the day that population grows to more than a quarter of a million as people come in to work. And there are even more people in areas surrounding the city. That makes it the fourth- largest metropolitan area in Missouri.
MALVEAUX: And I understand that it was a very populous area where that tornado hit, major businesses in the area as well. Tell us about that.
AZUZ: Health care providers are among the big ones, Suzanne, in Joplin, Missouri. St. John's Regional Medical Center is one of two hospitals in this area, and St. John's was hit directly by the tornado. City officials are reporting significant damage. CNN affiliate KSHB said there were fires throughout the hospital after the tornado hit.
MALVEAUX: Carl, is this the first time that the city's been hit by a tornado?
AZUZ: No, Suzanne. They saw something like this back in the 1970s. In fact, it was on May 5, 1971.
The city was hit by an F-3 tornado. It killed one man, injured almost 50 people. The tornado that went through the city last night is expected to be much larger than that one from the '70s.
And you heard me mention F-3 a moment ago. As a reminder, meteorologists use a new scale called the Enhanced Fujita Scale to rate the severity of tornadoes. The lowest ranking, EF-0, has recorded wind gusts of 65 to 85 miles per hour. The highest, an EF-5, has speeds of more than 200 miles per hour -- Suzanne.
MALVEAUX: Carl, thank you so much. We wish folks there just the very best in trying to pick up their lives again.
This tornado was very destructive. The storm chaser video of it that we have been seeing is just unbelievable, and we're going to track the storm as it happened. We're going to take a look at that next.
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CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: I'm Chad Myers, showing you around my town.
Thirty-five miles north of Atlanta, Georgia, exit 288, Cartersville, Georgia, on I-75, you find this, a building that should be in the Smithsonian or in Central Park. It is the Booth Western Art Museum, and it is amazing.
And yes, of course the building is very impressive, the physical structure. But the collections are even more impressive.
The building I'm standing in here, the room, letters from George Washington, all the way to President Obama. And every president in between, some correspondence. Not all to Congress.
Millard Fillmore, complaining that his stocks have gone down in value. But it's an amazing room. It takes about an hour and a half to read all the letters. And you will find out some fascinating things about some of the presidents.
As you come out of the presidential collection, you get to see some of the (INAUDIBLE) masterworks in here. Also, in this little room on this side, I love all of the old movie posters.
From Paramount Pictures, you've got "Custer's Last Fight." And then here, the Ken Maynard, "The Glorious Trail," one of the only, if not the only, known 24-sheet poster known in existence pre-1950. And this was way before that.
John Wayne's "Paradise Canyon." Hoot Gibson in "Arizona Sweepstakes." It just goes on and on. And then you get to some more contemporary. This is the contemporary collection where you're right here and you see Andy Warhol. But then you go downstairs, and you have Bronco Buster, you have Remington downstairs.
It continues on and on, and I can't talk more about this. This is a fabulous place.
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MALVEAUX: Here's a rundown of some of the stories that we are working on.
First, a timeline of destruction. We are tracking the tornado's deathly path across Joplin.
Next, Irish? Is president Obama a small town in Ireland going wild as they embrace their native son.
Next, Irish? President Obama is in a small town in Ireland, going wild as they embrace their native son.
Then, a big announcement follow-up any minute now from former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty.
Also, we are looking at the major story here. This is parts of Joplin, Missouri. They are unrecognizable today.
The tornado killed at least 89 people. It has left devastation in its path. We're talking about a high school, a hospital, both severely damaged.
Officials are saying as many as a quarter -- a quarter -- of the buildings suffered major or significant damage. And our CNN's Randi Kaye, she is taking a closer look at the storm, as well as the aftermath.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Got it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is what the massive tornado looked like as it was bearing down on Joplin, Missouri. But listen to this. This is what it sounded like from inside a convenience store, where terrified customers rode out the storm jammed inside a dark refrigerated store room.
We talked to one of those who was crammed inside.
ISAAC DUNCAN, TORNADO SURVIVOR: There were about 20 people in the back huddled down. And everyone was kind of just deciding what to do.
And all of a sudden, the glass in the front of the building just got sucked out, completely blew out. And so my buddy who was with me kind of had the idea that we should all run as fast as we can and get in that cooler.
KAYE: Those people inside, thankful to be alive.
DUNCAN: Basically, the only thing that was left standing was the cooler that we were in.
KAYE: In a matter of moments, the tornado was gone. In a flash, lives changed.
STEVE POLLEY, WITNESSED STORM: There were semis laid over on their side. There were several up on the ramp that were laid over, several people up on the banks that were hurt, bleeding. You know, they were walking wounded, I guess, the best way to put that.
KAYE: One of the hardest hit places, the hospital.
BETHANY SCUTTI, WITNESSED STORM: Every window looks to be blown out. There's debris hanging out of the windows. There are just cars stacked all over the parking lot.
KAYE: The power of the storm sent x-rays flying. They were found as far as 70 miles away.
The tornado was at least half a mile wide and hit residential areas and businesses alike, including the city's Home Depot and Wal-Mart.
MITCH RANDLES, JOPLIN FIRE DEPT.: I don't think you can single out any one area. The entire path of the tornado that took through town has just basically devastated the central portion of Joplin.
KAYE: Not even rescuers themselves were spared. Also hit, the fire chief's home.
RANDLES: It's been destroyed.
KAYE: Joplin, Missouri, literally cut in two. And it may not be over yet. More storms are on the way.
Randi Kaye, CNN, Atlanta.
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MALVEAUX: Eddie Atwood has lived in Joplin for 40 years. He remembers another bad tornado hitting the city. That happened in 1974, but he says it is nothing -- nothing like this. And these are some of the pictures that he took after yesterday's tornado. He joins us by phone.
Eddie, thank you so much for, first of all, joining us and being here to explain what happened.
I understand that you had gotten home and all the alarms started going off. What happened?
EDDIE ATWOOD, CNN IREPORTER: The tornado alarms went off as I was on my way home from running an errand, and there were reports on the radio of tennis-ball-sized hail. And I was concerned about getting damage to my car. So as I was driving down South Main Street I almost stopped at a car wash to take shelter from the hail when a friend called me and asked me to come and pick him up.
And so luckily I didn't stop at the car wash. We made it back to my house in time to get the car inside the garage and avoid the hail. And as we were heading back on the other side of town to check on some friends, we stopped at the area where most of the damage was, starting from about 20th and Main from where we were running up to past 30th and Main.
And as I was walking up Main Street, I walked past the car wash where I almost took shelter and it was pretty much devastated. If I would have stopped, I probably wouldn't be talking to you right now.
MALVEAUX: We are so glad you did not stop at the carwash. Can you describe what you actually saw after this was over?
ATWOOD: Walking from 20th and main toward 26th and main, it was just disorienting. I've been in Joplin all my life and after a few blocks the damage was so bad all around me that I absolutely didn't know exactly where I was. It was just a bomb had gone off or something. Homes and businesses and trees were just razed to the ground.
As I stood in the intersection of 26th and main I looked down 26th toward where St. John's hospital is and that's all you could see was the hospital sticking up. It was obviously damaged, but all the trees and homes and everything that normally would be blocking your view of the hospital were gone. You could actually see the hospital from 26th and main.
And as I looked to the west you could see all the way to the edge of town to the horizon. Turning to the east I could see all the way to the right and buildings and trees were just raised to the ground.
MALVEAUX: You've lived in that community for so long. Have you been able to reach out to find friends or family members, is there anyone missing or anyone you have not been able to find since this happened?
ATWOOD: I've got some friends that are staying with me now whose homes were destroyed and they lost everything. But as of right now, I don't know anyone personally that's missing. But I plan on, as soon as I'm done here, going to a center where volunteers can volunteer their help. So I'm going to get some gloves and head that way.
MALVEAUX: All right, Eddie, we wish you the very best. If there's anything we can do for you, please let us know as well. Thanks, Eddie, for joining us.
On another story, Ireland now is welcoming its native son. That is President Obama. You're looking at live pictures. He and the first lady are visiting the president's ancestral home. We're going to take you there after the quick break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) MALVEAUX: You're now looking at live pictures there, an announcement coming very shortly, an official announcement by the former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty. His wife is speaking there at podium right now. He is going to be officially launching his 2012 run for president, a Republican there. He's just one of many who have decided to join in the race. They are from the very important state of Iowa, in Des Moines, Iowa, to make that official announcement that he will throw his hat into the ring.
Also, President Obama connecting with his roots today, and, yes, it is in Ireland. He's about to deliver remarks at an Irish celebration at College Green in Dublin. You're looking at live pictures there as well. He and the first lady just visited the tiny village of Moneygall. That is where President Obama's maternal great-great-great grandfather was born. We're going to have more live pictures and that event right after the break.
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MALVEAUX: It's official, Republican Tim Pawlenty has formally entered the 2012 race for president. The former Minnesota governor kicking off his campaign just moments ago in Iowa. He is promising to tell the truth. And he is speaking now. Let's listen in.
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TIM PAWLENTY, (R) FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR: -- we need a new and better president. President Obama's policies have failed. But more than that, he won't even tell us the truth about what it is going to really take to get out of this mess that we're in.
I could stand here and tell that you we can solve America's debt crisis and fix our economy without making any tough choices. But we've heard those kinds of empty promises before and for the last three years, and we know where that's gotten us. Fluffy promises of hope and change don't buy our groceries, make our mortgage payments, put gas in our car or pay for our children's school clothes or other needs.
So in my campaign I'm going to take a different approach, I'm going to tell you the truth. And the truth is Washington, D.C.'s broken. Our country's going broke and the pain of the recent recession will pale in comparison to what's coming if we don't get spending in Washington, D.C. under control. President Obama doesn't have an economic plan.
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MALVEAUX: We're going to go live to Ireland. That is where president Obama is and that is where he is enjoying a celebration of his Irish roots. The president in Ireland is about to deliver remarks at a celebration at College Green. That is in Dublin. Here are some live pictures of folks who have gathered there. He's quite popular.
He and the first lady just visited this tiny village of Moneygall. That is where the president's maternal great-great-great-grandfather was born. I want to bring in our own Ed Henry who is there. He joins us live from Dublin. Ed, so the president is an Irishman. Who knew? They're toasting him today, yes?
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ED HENRY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, absolutely. His great-great-great grandfather born -- or had lived there in Moneygall. It's interesting because there were crowds of people waiting over three hours in rain, wind, hail, literally, just waiting to get a glimpse of the president. They were chanting "Welcome Home."
It was interesting because it almost had the flavor of an American- style campaign event. They actually had these signs that were the Gaelic version of "Yes, we can," basically "Yes, we can" in Gaelic. It's interesting because they literally poured over 3,500 liters of paint of all the homes in this small town to spruce them up for the president. Some people painted their homes red, white and blue, a tribute to the American president.
But the biggest pour of all was the pouring of one pint of Guinness for the president. He went out to the bar. There's only two little pubs in this town and he was joking with the bartender and he took a big long swig of it. You got to do that if you're going to be a local, Suzanne.
MALVEAUX: Yes. I don't flow if that new campaign slogan is going to catch on, the Irish one. Maybe the president will come back with an accent. Who knows? It's largely ceremonial, this visit, to highlight the deep ties with the Irish. What do we expect to hear from the president on this occasion, Ed?
HENRY: He's going to be speaking at College Green here. You see tens of thousands of people. Bill Clinton also spoke here and had a similarly large crowd. He's going to talk about the long friendship between these two countries. When he sat down with the Irish prime minister earlier he talked about the long trade ties.
He also talked about the U.S. trying to do all it can to help Ireland pull out of its own debt crisis right now. Here they've had a real estate boom and bust, just as we've seen in the United States. There's been a lot of political and economic turmoil here.
And I think more than anything, this president wants to try to buck up this friendly nation, close ties between both countries obviously. We were talking about that campaign, you know, obviously there are no votes here literally in Ireland, but there's about 40 million Irish- Americans back there in the states where you are and there's no doubt the president is thinking at least a little bit about that, Suzanne.
MALVEAUX: Ed, we are hearing the sounds -- the roar from the crowd. Set the scene for us, if you will. Looks like it is just -- folks are going wild over there in Ireland!
HENRY: Yes, they are. This is just outside Trinity College, world famous obviously on the other side of Dublin from where I am standing right now. People have been waiting there as well for hours, just to get a glimpse of the American president. I mentioned that Bill Clinton more than a decade ago gave a speech in the same setting and the bottom line is, this crowd is fired up. People of Ireland are very excited.
MALVEAUX: Let's take a moment just to listen for a bit if we can.
Ed, you're absolutely right, it sounds like a campaign out there. I mean I guess chance of "Obama" and folks really thrilled to see the president. Signs we saw similar to the campaign when he was in certain Irish communities, they had the "O," apostrophe, "bama," "O'bama," the Irishman.
HENRY: That's right. And they're selling t-shirts similarly with the apostrophe in there as if it were an Irish name.
You know, obviously, there's going to be some serious business on this trip, but this is sort of the first stop, a chance for the president to connect with his roots a little bit obviously. We already mentioned that part.
But now also play to the domestic audience a little bit, Irish- Americans who may be watching this, but then it's going to be on to the U.K. for an official state visit.
A lot of business there and then on to France for the G8 Summit and he going to wrap it up in Poland. But this is a little bit of the lighter start, kind of an easy start to all of that official business, Suzanne.
MALVEAUX: All right, Ed, we'll have much more after the quick break. Thanks, Ed.
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