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Will Sarah Palin Run?; Search for Survivors in Joplin Continues; Escaping Bombs in Secret Caves; Obama's Warning to Gadhafi; Libyans Hiding in Caves; Palin Movie Showing in Iowa; US Terror Trial
Aired May 26, 2011 - 15:59 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Now here we go, top of the hour. Take a look at this.
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BALDWIN: He is accused of murdering 8,000 men and boys. And now after years on the run, one of the most wanted men in recent history is caught. I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I got it on video.
BALDWIN: Hundreds are still unaccounted for in Joplin, and now we're hearing their names.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A list of 232 individuals.
BALDWIN: Sons, daughters, moms, dads all trying to find their loved ones. We will take you there.
Casey Anthony's father takes to the stand in her murder trial, and emotions are high.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are badgering me. You're trying to get me upset, sir.
BALDWIN: Plus, more than a dozen police officers suspended, accused of forcing a female prisoner to strip and to perform lap dances in exchange for her release. We have the video.
And brand-new signs Sarah Palin could soon begin a run for president.
SARAH PALIN (R), FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: Let me ask you, don't you love your freedom?
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BALDWIN: How she is using a movie theater to take on politics and her enemies.
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BALDWIN: Welcome back to CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Brooke Baldwin.
Developing right now, the CIA could soon get a closer look at Osama bin Laden's Pakistan hideout. This is what we have, according to "The Washington Post," that federal agents have apparently negotiated with the Pakistanis for access to that compound in Abbottabad.
The CIA is exported to scour the building's walls and the floors with all this sophisticated equipment to test for potentially secret hiding places, more information.
This development comes on the heels of the arrival of the Joint Chiefs chairman, Admiral Mike Mullen, in Pakistan. He has meetings scheduled with Pakistan's military leaders.
Now, also keep in mind Pakistan doesn't have this kind of high-tech, sophisticated equipment the CIA plans to use in that compound.
And with that, let me talk to Mike Baker. He is on the phone with me from New York. He is a former CIA covert operations officer.
And, Mike, we know that those Navy SEALs, they took thumb drives and computers, and apparently porn as well out of this compound that bin Laden was in possession of. So, what more do they think they can find?
MIKE BAKER, FORMER CIA COVERT OPERATIONS OFFICER: Well, it's more of -- there's several layers to this story.
In all honesty, we have a realistic view of the fact that the ISI and the Pakistani military have scrubbed that place pretty thoroughly. And the last thing they want to do is have some log discovered by us in a second review that identified the name of some ISI mid-level officer who has been a liaison point for bin Laden.
So, you can imagine there's a lot at stake here from the Pakistanis' point of view ensuring that they had hoovered up everything after it was discovered we had done the operation. But, at the same time, it -- there was this effort by both the CIA and the military and others to triage, you know, this situation, and to try to cauterize the wounds that exist right now between the Pakistanis and the U.S. and try to get back on some normal, albeit normal, usually, when that relationship is dysfunctional, but some normal level.
BALDWIN: OK, so, Mike, you think that this is perhaps more symbolic than anything, that the Pakistanis are showing the Americans, hey, let's make nice?
BAKER: Well, I think there is an element to that.
Obviously, we want to spend as much time in there as possible, and there is always the chance that perhaps, you know, documents or laptops or other things had been hidden away in safes. And you have to remember, within that 40-or-so-minute time that the teams were on the ground on target, you know, you pick up everything you can. But it's not exactly an exhaustive search.
So this is actually -- from an operational point of view, this makes sense. It's just that, you know, we have to go into it with a realistic point of view, which is they have combed over every inch of this. Now, it's true we are going to use technology that the Pakistanis to some degree don't have access to.
BALDWIN: Sure.
BAKER: But this is an important step. It is an important step in the sense it shows also...
BALDWIN: Mike Baker, I hope we're not losing you. Let me just try to get one more question into you.
Do you think that when the CIA goes -- oh, I have a feeling we lost him.
Did we lose him? Gone.
All right, Mike Baker, thank you.
Now to the urgent efforts to locate the missing in Joplin, Missouri. Today, authorities reduced the number of those who are unaccounted for all the way down from 1,500 now down to 232. Some people, there have been positive stories. Some have been found alive. Others have been confirmed among the dead.
That said, we have an update for you this hour on a story we brought you right about this time yesterday, this little 16-month-old Skyular Logsdon. I spoke with his grandmother just yesterday, saying they would continue to search for him.
Well, the search is over. Missouri officials say the missing toddler's body was identified in a morgue in Joplin by his great-aunt. His mother at the time, Sunday, was just holding, holding little Skyular in her arms when the tornado blew through, tossed her around. She is still in the hospital, Skyular blown right out of her embrace.
The search drew national attention. You see the Facebook here. Thousands on the Facebook page tried to find Skyular Logsdon.
In Oklahoma, another story for you, one father fights back tears as he reveals heartbreaking news.
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HANK HAMIL, SONS KILLED IN TORNADO: Hello. I'm Hank Hamil. And we found my other son this morning, Ryan. He was floating in water on the west side of the lake.
And I just want to thank everybody for helping and being there. And it's a bad deal. I lost both my boys. I was hoping we would find Ryan today alive.
Ryan was my little buddy. Cole was, too. And I loved them both. I just want to thank everybody again for helping, all they have done. Thanks.
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BALDWIN: His pregnant wife and young daughter, they are alive. They are in the hospital. Apparently, he was out of town for work when the tornado hit. Eleven people across Oklahoma have lost their lives.
Now to more news unfolding right this moment here, rapid fire. Let's go.
I want to begin in Arizona. The controversial immigration law gets a key boost from the U.S. Supreme Court. It was a 5-3 vote. The justices upheld part of the law that allows Arizona to punish employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. The court also upheld the law's requirement that employers must use that federal database, it's called E-Verify, to confirm if a worker, current or potentially or in the future, is illegally here.
Rod Blagojevich takes to the stand on corruption charges for the very first time. Folks, this is a huge deal. He has chosen not to testify up until now. The former Illinois governor is charged with trying to sell the Senate seat left open by President Obama once he became president.
And an attorney for rape suspect and former International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn is accusing New York police of leaking details of the case. He maintains Strauss-Kahn's ability to get a fair trial now is compromised by the release of what is being described as prejudicial material. It's still unclear, though, what materials that may include.
All of this comes as Strauss-Kahn has moved to a luxury townhouse in New York City's Tribeca neighborhood. Folks, it's just about 7,000 square feet, and the asking rent at one point in time per month, 60 grand.
Now this:
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ELIZABETH SMART, KIDNAPPING VICTIM: Whether he received his just sentence here on Earth or after this Earth life, that one day he will have to be responsible for his actions.
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BALDWIN: Elizabeth Smart speaking after the sentencing of the man who raped her and kept her captive for nine months. Brian David Mitchell going to prison for the rest of his life. Smart says her case is proof that parents of missing children should never, never give up hope.
Researchers, they're calling it a new epidemic. A study finds that one in five young adults has high blood pressure. They say that's mainly due to a rise in obesity rates combined with a high sodium diet and little exercise. Scientists also say most of the 24- to 34-year- old adults in the study didn't know they had a problem.
Two high-profile Republicans making huge announcements about their possible White House runs, one of them Sarah Palin, and she could be coming to a town near you. That is next. Also, this -- this is shocking video of a striptease, the woman there a prisoner. The men around here -- you hear the catcalls? They're police officers. Coming up next, you're going to hear what the officers allegedly promised her if she took off her clothes and performed a lap dance. This whole thing, keep in mind, happened in a place where violence is rising, a place that affects lives right here in the U.S. We're going show you that video next. Don't miss this.
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BALDWIN: Fifteen police officers suspended, that's about the last thing any Mexican border city really needs these days, in the midst of a war with drug dealers, drug cartels. But that is exactly what is happening in Tijuana -- 15 police officers suspended for allegedly forcing this young woman to strip, and, worse, strip for her freedom.
The evidence is clear on the video. I'm going to show you part of it. This is just the part we can show you.
Senior Latin American affairs editor Rafael Romo is here.
I know I'm sure you have seen the whole video. I have seen the whole video. That is just the one little bit we can actually show folks. It got quite raunchy. What happened?
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SENIOR LATIN AMERICAN AFFAIRS EDITOR: It begs the question, what were they thinking?
In the best-case scenario, this was a situation where 15 police officer -- officers were behaving inappropriately. That is, in the middle of the night, they call somebody, they hire somebody, and they have their own little party.
In the worst-case scenario, which is why this is being investigated so deeply, she was a detainee, and she was forced to strip in order for her release. And that's the big problem there. So, it's a situation where...
BALDWIN: Big problem.
ROMO: ... a flagrant violation of human rights could have happened there.
BALDWIN: How did this video even come to light in the first place?
ROMO: Well, the investigation began on April 15. And, apparently, one of the officers who was there, who taped the video...
BALDWIN: So, it was an officer, we think?
ROMO: That's -- that's the theory right now.
Apparently, he made it available to his superiors, and that's how the investigation began. Somehow, it was leaked to a local newspaper in Tijuana. And then it became public, and that's the reason why everybody is talking about it now. BALDWIN: And then it became national and international.
Do we know more about this woman? Do we know what she is accused of doing to be there in the first place?
ROMO: Apparently, she was originally arrested for being in possession of stolen credit cards and checks. Now, she was released for lack of evidence.
And -- and so the question is -- and in one of the statements made by one of the officers who were suspended was that she is being described as somebody who is in "that kind of business" -- quote, end quote. So, we don't really know.
BALDWIN: That's what the police officers are saying?
ROMO: That's -- one of the police officers who was suspended, that's what he is saying.
BALDWIN: OK.
ROMO: It's many questions right now.
BALDWIN: Can any of these officers -- I know you say some are suspended -- could any of them be charged with any kind of a crime here?
ROMO: Definitely.
If it was a case in which she was a detainee and was forced to do that in order to get released, then we're looking at a situation of human rights violation, and they cannot only get dismissed, but also face prosecution, because this would be very, very serious.
BALDWIN: I mean, she basically in the video strips all the way down, and you hear all these catcalls in the background from presumably these police officers in Tijuana.
ROMO: Exactly.
BALDWIN: Follow it up for us, will you?
ROMO: Absolutely.
BALDWIN: Rafael Romo, thank you so much.
ROMO: Thank you.
BALDWIN: Just hours ago, he was one of the world's most wanted fugitives. But now the man accused of murdering 8,000 Muslims, men, boys, in this genocide has been caught after more than a decade on the run. Behind the scenes of the dramatic capture, that is next.
Plus, after weeks of speculation about whether French first lady Carla Bruni is pregnant, aha, she has just made a mighty big revelation, and she did it in public. Hala Gorani is standing by with the scoop. That's next.
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BALDWIN: Time to take you "Globe Trekking" with a couple of big stories overseas.
Serbia has captured accused war crime suspect Ratko Mladic. And in France, a surprising development, a little off topic wit the G-8 meeting. It has absolutely nothing to do with world economics. Hala Gorani is here with both of those.
We know Mladic accused of, you know, massacring 8,000 men, boys. Specifically, just tell us more about him.
HAL GORANI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Ratko Mladic was essentially the most high-profile, wanted, accused war criminal out there associated with the Balkans war between 1992 and the mid '90s. And there you have images of him back in the early '90s.
And he is accused of ordering the massacre as you mentioned there of 8,000 -- almost 8,000 Muslim men and boys in 1995. The worst massacre after World War II in Europe. And he was arrested on Serbian soil not too far from the capital, Belgrade. It was announced by the president today. So, it's a major development, a significant development. And now, he is going to be extradited to the Netherlands, and he will face war crimes charges at The Hague.
BALDWIN: To The Hague. We have video. I don't know if we just -- yes, we have a video of him in custody. We just turned around this afternoon where you can kind of see him being walked out.
GORANI: Exactly and I just want to make sure viewers know who we're talking about. It's the man you see, whose back of the head you see there wearing a baseball cap.
BALDWIN: Baseball cap.
GORANI: Right, and a black hooded jacket there. And it's not the man with the white hair there opening the door. Some people were a little confused at first. But this is all we have, a very short snippet of him.
The latest now, for the last few minutes, we learned that his interrogation is delayed until tomorrow morning because he is in, quote, "poor health." This is according to reports that aired on state television in Serbia today.
BALDWIN: OK.
GORANI: He is 69, and there are reports he may have suffered a stroke, that he doesn't have the full usage of one of his arms. But let me tell you, some of these Bosnians who are relatives of victims of that massacre in Srebrenica, you have to think of this -- note the scale of it.
BALDWIN: No sympathy? GORANI: Not only no sympathy. You could hear the emotion in their voices when we were talking to them today on CNN International. Imagine the scale of it, and I'm sure you've seen some of these images. They're indelible, really, in the history of Europe, of men just lined up one after another and shot like animals.
And this is something we saw today too, and re-experienced with some of those Bosnians who were either directly or indirectly the victims of this Serb military campaign.
BALDWIN: Horrific. And that is historic, clearly.
GORANI: Yes.
BALDWIN: Second story. We know that the president, a bunch of world leaders in France, right, for the G-8.
GORANI: But we're not going to talk than.
BALDWIN: We're not talking about that. That's not what everyone is buzzing about.
GORANI: We talked about that all day. Now, it's time to talk about what else? Pregnancy rumors.
BALDWIN: Carla Bruni, here she is.
GORANI: What was she wearing today? You know how she usually wears the beautiful form-fitted George dresses.
BALDWIN: She is stunning.
GORANI: She is stunning. But look what she's wearing today. So, this is of course, fueling the rumors now.
BALDWIN: Turn around, Carla Bruni.
GORANI: Turn around, she's wearing sort of a -- there she is.
BALDWIN: And puts the flowers right in front of her.
GORANI: OK. Listen, Carla, can you please fess up now? This is a still. A still pan. It's going to take a little while, there we have it. OK.
So, basically, she chaired a meeting of one of her charities on illiteracy. She doesn't moving around too much. She normally wears more form-fitted clothing. And, of course, last week, her stepfather or her father-in-law, I should say, the father of Nicolas Sarkozy, told a German newspaper that they were expecting. It hasn't been confirmed officially.
BALDWIN: OK. We're just reading between the baby bump lines.
GORANI: That's exactly right. So, we'll wait. And, you know, she is 43 years old. BALDWIN: You interviewed her just last year, didn't you?
GORANI: Just last year, yes. So, she is probably waiting for it to be further along before confirming if indeed she is pregnant. So, we'll wait for the official confirmation.
BALDWIN: This is what we do to Americans, American celebrities, and it's what we're doing to the French first lady.
GORANI: And, by the way, the elections in France are next year. So, if indeed there is a presidential baby or two on the way, they will be tiny little bundles of joy by the time the Nicolas Sarkozy runs for office again.
BALDWIN: How about that. Thank you. Hala Gorani, thank you.
And now this --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Give me a date and I'll answer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm giving you a date.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, sir, you are badgering me. You're trying to get me upset, sir.
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BALDWIN: Tensions running high in the Casey Anthony murder trial as her dad there and defense lawyer go back and forth. But it's what her boyfriend said actually on the stand today that really shook up Casey Anthony. That is ahead.
Also up next, Pakistan's difficult relationship with the United States may be a little bit more tense after the dramatic details revealed in a Chicago courtroom this week. Hear what accused plotters of the Mumbai terror attack revealed about their sources inside Pakistan.
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BALDWIN: I want to talk a little bit about Pakistan, because the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mike Mullen, just arrived in the country for meetings with the country's government. All of this comes at a time when the U.S. and Pakistan government there, military, et cetera, already on shaky ground.
Mullen is the highest U.S. ranking official to visit Pakistan since the raid of Osama bin Laden's compound. And there are lingering questions about how bin Laden was able to hide in plain sight, essentially a stone's throw from the equivalent of Pakistan's West Point, their military academy. There have been allegations that Pakistani intelligence officers corrupted by terrorists helped keep his location quiet.
Now, testimony in a Chicago trial could have international repercussions. David Coleman Headley testified under oath that Pakistan's stop intelligence service known as the ISI is linked to the terrorists who carried out the deadly attacks in Mumbai. Now, Headley has confessed to scouting targets for the attacks in India. He testified that he was trained in espionage by Pakistan's secret intelligence office.
Headley is now the star witness in this case against a former friend and businessman Tahawwur Rana and seven other co-defendants. Rana is the only one in custody. He is accused of helping Headley get a fake visa to travel to India. Now, Rana is denying any connection to the Mumbai plot.
Keep in mind these two gentlemen, they were boyhood friends. Rana once put his own house up as bail for Headley when he faced drug charges back in the 1990s. And it's that kind of devotion that makes Rana's attorneys say his client was manipulated.
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PATRICK BLAGEN, ATTORNEY FOR TAHAWWUR RANA: I believe the evidence in the complaint is equally as capable of reaching the conclusion that Mr. Rana was unwitting, did not know what plans Mr. Headley had in his head.
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BALDWIN: More than 160 people were killed in the attack. Remember, it was right around Thanksgiving at the famous Taj Hotel. Thanksgiving, of course, for us here in the United States. Six Americans were among those victims.
And the terror group, Lashkar-e-Taiba has claimed responsibility for that three-day siege. But according to Headley's testimony, they had help. Everything about this case is hinging upon Headley's credibility. He was a drug dealer. And because of that, he became an informant for the DEA. And he accepted a plea deal to avoid the death penalty in this terror case. And Headley says the terror group was in cahoots with Pakistan's military.
Now the lawyer for the U.S. victims of those Mumbai attacks is pleased that Headley's testimony is linking the ISI to the attacks in Mumbai.
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JAMES KREINDLER, LAWYER FOR U.S. VICTIMS IN MUMBAI ATTACKS: We want to obtain for the American victims the compensation that they're entitled to from the ISI defendants. Obviously, LET is involved and there's no, you know, serious person who could make an issue of that. But for the families to get the compensation that they're entitled to, we really need the ISI in the case.
So, we're very happy to hear on day one in clear, explicit language from the government and from Headley that the ISI was involved in planning and then carrying out the Mumbai attacks.
(END VIDEO CLIP) BALDWIN: Again, Pakistan repeatedly denying that the ISI had any role in the Mumbai attacks, just as it has denied that the ISI knew a thing about bin Laden's whereabouts.
Sarah Palin's camp dropping another hint about 2012. This one has to do with a movie made at her request. And it features her enemies. That is ahead.
Also, as President Obama attends his G-8 summit event, his wife will not be attending any first lady events overseas? Why not? We're live in France.
Plus, it is a must-have for me every day. It is. I love how my team just wrote that into the script, because it's true. But the price of one grocery item, an item all of us buy, is skyrocketing. I'm going to tell you what to expect at the store, next.
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BALDWIN: Well, it turns out we're all going to be paying a little bit more for something most of us drink every single morning.
Also, President Obama is meeting with world leaders in France. Time for "Reporter Roulette."
And Brianna Keilar, want to begin with you in France in Deauville at the G-8 summit. I know many items on the agenda, obviously, one of which is Libya. A little bit of friction there over how aggressive the military strategy should be.
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. Libya is the top agenda item for sure, Brooke. And you have President Obama kind of having to straddle a line. Because on the one hand, he has Russia, which has a relationship with Libya, which abstained from voting for sanctions at the U.N. and is really concerned that this military operation will drone on and on.
Then on the other hand you have allies like France that want to make sure that the U.S. is committed, really, to seeing this through and that it stands with the U.S. saying that Moammar Gadhafi needs to step aside.
So, you know, we saw President Obama meet with the president of Russia, Dmitry Medvedev. He said -- what the White House is kind of saying is they're going to keep Russia in the loop. But you certainly have President Obama saying, you know, we have to be patient in trying to make it clear that they're committed to this mission in Libya. And that they're in it for a while, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Also -- and we'll be watching that. Also, though, huge, huge news out of Europe today. This arrest of Serbian war criminal Ratko Mladic. What is the response --
KEILAR: Mladic.
BALDWIN: All right, I tell you what. Say it again. Mladic. KEILAR: Ratko Mladic. It's very difficult to say. And yes, he -- the response here has been overwhelmingly positive. The White House said that the president was delighted. Then the president came out and said this is justice. You had President Sarkozy weighing in on this, saying this is very good news. It's been received very well here by President Obama and all of the allies because they say this goes a long way towards really helping Serbia ease some of the tensions in that region, and ultimately helping it move forward, because it's wanted to join the E.U., Brooke.
BALDWIN: Brianna Keilar, thank you very much for me in France.
Next on "Reporter Roulette," the greatest part of waking up may still be the cup of Folgers or Starbucks, but it's going to cost you the coffee. Alison Kosik live at the stock exchange.
Oh, boy, oh, boy. Because I'm hooked! I'll be the first to admit it.
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Oh, yes.
BALDWIN: How much are we talking here?
KOSIK: That means the price -- that means like most of us, the price won't keep us from drinking it. You know, we're talking about big names like Starbucks. I'm talking about the packaged coffee it sells in the stores. You're looking at a 17 percent increase in the price there. Folgers, Millstone, those prices up 11 percent. Dunkin' Donuts, even, the coffee, though, that is sold in the grocery stores, prices are going up 11 percent. Also Green Mountain there included in the list.
You know, as I said, we're going to keep on drinking the stuff. Well need our fix, right? You know what, Brooke? We consumed a record amount of coffee last year. So, I don't think the price is going to keep us.
BALDWIN: Mmm, yes, in my world, it is a necessity. Good. But why is it, Alison? To what do we attribute this increase?
KOSIK: And that's a good question. The fact is coffee makers, Brooke, they're struggling right now. They're trying to deal with the surging cost of raw coffee beans. You know, it winds up being this issue of supply and demand. We're drinking more coffee than ever all over the world, but we've also got this bad weather, the poor growing conditions in South America and Indonesia. And what that is doing, it's leading to a big supply crunch.
Also, you have to remember, coffee is actually a commodity that is traded on the open market. You know, just like gold is, just like crude oil is. So, when investors see a short supply but rising demand, they buy it. And what do you get? You get the price of coffee futures doubling in the past year. And of course, when you see tonight store shelf, it rises too.
In fact, the retail price is up more than 50 percent for the past year, Brooke. BALDWIN: Over 50 percent? My gosh! That's a lot.
KOSIK: Yes, yes. But look, you haven't even noticed. You just buy it any way. It's a necessity, don't you think?
BALDWIN: That's horrible. I don't drink too much. Just a little bit. Alison Kosik, thank you so much.
And that is your "Reporter Roulette" for this Thursday.
Now to this. A six-year-old boy disappears. Then his mother apparently kills herself and leaves behind a note. Now not only are investigators releasing new surveillance video, but the search has just shifted. That is ahead.
Also, what did Casey Anthony's ex-boyfriend say today on the stand that caused her to burst into tears? Sonny Hostin has been watching this all day long. She is next.
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BALDWIN: You could see things got a little testy today at the murder trial of Casey Anthony, the Florida mother charged with killing her two-year-old daughter. Sunny Hostin back on the story, back "On the Case" for us today.
Sunny, it was Casey Anthony's father. He was back on the witness stand this morning. Let's watch this together, and then we'll talk about it on the other side.
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GEROGE ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY'S FATHER: You're trying to confuse me here. Yes, you are, sir.
JOSE BAEZ, ATTORNEY: No, sir, I'm not.
ANTHONY: You're talking about the gas can, we're talking my granddaughter. So, be specific with one or the other, sir, and I'll be more than glad to get through this with you. But you have to be specific with me, sir. Give me -- give me a date and I'll answer.
BAEZ: I'm giving you a date. But my --
ANTHONY: No, sir, you're badgering me. You're trying to get me upset, sir.
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BALDWIN: Sunny Hostin, let's just set it up. Who is he talking to? And do you think he was being badgered?
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, TRUTV: Well, this is George Anthony being cross-examined by Jose Baez.
No, I don't think that he was being badgered. Obviously, he has never sat in a witness chair and been cross-examined by someone that cross- examinations the way I used to cross examined witnesses that I'm accusing of sexual abuse. And so certainly I thought this sort of cross-examination actually played pretty well for the defense. Because the defense here, Brooke, is claiming that Casey Anthony behaved the way she did because she had been repeatedly sexually abused by George Anthony.
So, he needs to look like an angry guy, someone that needs to be in control. And I think he showed that side of him today.
BALDWIN: What about -- and again live pictures we're looking at Casey Anthony sitting in the courtroom yet again. She is not crying here. We know she was in tears this morning. Sunny, what prompted that?
HOSTIN: You know, her ex-boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro, was on the witness stand this morning, Brooke. And he talked about his love for her, her love for him. He also talked about Casey Anthony as a mother. He mentioned that little Caylee was remarkable, that she knew how to count to 40 in Spanish. That she learned it by watching Dora the Explorer.
And it really touched Casey. And I think it was a very humanizing moment for Casey Anthony in the courtroom because she seemed to revel in her role as a mother. So, very humanizing picture for this jury today for Casey Anthony.
BALDWIN: Sunny, what about the defense's side in terms of calling witnesses to the stand to testify? Who do they have? When will we se Casey Anthony on the stand? Will we?
HOSTIN: I think we need to see Casey Anthony on the stand, because, again, remember the defense dropped that bombshell, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Yep.
HOSTIN: They said Caylee Anthony drowned in the swimming pool, and Casey Anthony had been abused by her father. No one else can corroborate that other than Casey Anthony. So, we will see Casey Anthony on the witness stand. I think we may even see George Anthony again on the witness stand, and I think we will see other people that can testify to the fact that Casey Anthony adored her little girl. I think we'll see a lot of that type of thing.
BALDWIN: Let's move from that case. The second one here, I want to check in on a case we actually talked about last week. This involves six-year-old Timothy Pittson. Police just released this surveillance video. Want to show some of it here. This is surveillance video of Timothy and his mother. It's from this resort. This is in the Wisconsin Dells. This is the last time the two were seen together.
His mother ended up committing suicide in a motel room. But there has still been no sign of Timothy. Are police make anything progress in tracking him down?
HOSTIN: Well, the investigation is still very fluid. It's ongoing. I'm so glad, Brooke, we have chosen to highlight this case again. We are talking about a six-year-old little boy who is still missing. I'm glad we're showing his picture.
The police are saying they're following leads. The FBI is involved now. They have located some cell phone data, and they're shifting the investigation into that area where cell phone was pinpointed. And so hopefully, we'll learn more about this case in the near future.
But I really hope that those that are watching our show today and have been following up will continue to call the police department with any sorts of tips about the whereabouts of little timothy.
BALDWIN: But here is the question I have. If this mother before she killed herself, she leaves this note. She leaves this note saying she left her son with people that she didn't identify. If that was the case, wouldn't those people have come forward by now?
HOSTIN: You would think so. I think that's why everyone is so very concerned about it. It's been three -- almost two-and -a-half weeks now since he has been missing. And so you would think if he were with other folks that saw the reports, learned that his mother had committed suicide, that they would come forward. I think it's leading many of us to question why she wrote that in her suicide note. Really such a mystery.
BALDWIN: It is a mystery. Sunny Hostin, thank you so much.
I want to break way from you, go straight to Dana Bash live on Capitol Hill. Dana and I were talking earlier. The Patriot Act set to expire tonight. A lot of the senators, though, back and forth on several of these provisions. If they don't all agree, it could expire. What the news today?
DANA BASH, CNN SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The news is you and I talked the last hour about the fact that it was a fast-moving story, they could reach a deal. They reached a deal. If you look at the Senate floor, Brooke, they have begun a series of votes to actually ultimately pass an extension of the Patriot Act for four years.
Now, what you and I talked about is if fact that Republican Rand Paul of Kentucky, Tea Party-backed freshman who promised to give his party some trouble. And he followed through on that on this, because he had been filibustering this bill all week long, trying get some amendments to it. And he actually did succeed. He came on CNN earlier saying that he was upset with his own party leadership because he thought they were blocking an amendment to -- to have a court order before people's gun records were reviewed. His Republican leadership relented. And in fact, if you look at the Senate floor, that is what they're voting now there will be another Rand Paul amendment and then final passage.
I should tell you that these amendments by Rand Paul, they are expected to fail. They're not expected to pass. But bottom line is that the Senate will probably finish this in the next half hour or so. The House has stayed in to also pass a Patriot Act extension. So, Congress looks like it will pass a Patriot Act extension for four years -- BALDWIN: For four more years.
BASH: -- before it expires at midnight tonight. They'll make the deadline.
BALDWIN: All right. Dana Bash, thanks for the update there. Breaking news out of Capitol Hill.
Now this.
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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Has taken us to see some caves where we're told families have been hiding from the shelling.
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BALDWIN: Those families, parents, children taking cover from rockets fired by Moammar Gadhafi's regime in Libya. You just saw him. CNN's Nic Robertson got this exclusive tour - there he goes! Inside some of these secret hideouts. Wait until you see how they're set up. That's next.
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BALDWIN: President Obama is giving Moammar Gadhafi a stern warning. NATO air strikes will not stop until you leave and you stop killing your own people.
Many Libyans, including parents, their own children are now hiding out in these secret caves. Our senior international correspondent Nic Robertson got an exclusive look inside. Watch.
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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: He's taken us to see some caves where we're told families have been hiding from the shelling. We've yet to see the caves, but we're certainly seeing a lot of children and that is the only place in town where I've seen children. Look at them here. Families of children.
They've deserted the streets of the city. They're living out here on the edge. The caves we're told haven't been lived in by people for about 60 years. But because of the random shelling, and now going back to hiding in them again.
This is the old part of the city on the hills on the edge. Down here, steep. You can really feel like you're going into an ancient city here. This is quite incredible. Look up here.
These ancient homes here that you can see the power cable now running inside here so people can have electricity, some light at night. This is a whole underground labyrinth of caves. The roof is blackened by soot from fires, years of fires. It's all black. Then you come out here into this. And the only way out of here is a ladder. It's an absolute labyrinth every side you look. An entrance here, here, here, here, another room here with a light bulb. This wasn't here 60 years ago. Blankets in there if you take a look, blankets, carpets, space for people to live and hide from the shelling.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're still here. Maybe I think between ten and 12 families.
ROBERTSON: That's a lot of people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From the houses, they come into here.
ROBERTSON: And this is why it's safe to keep their children in Zentan because you can hide here. You can hide here and be safe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Underground.
ROBERTSON: What about the children? What happens to the children? They stay here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sometimes crying some.
ROBERTSON: But the young children, sometimes they're crying when they hear the rockets?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes.
ROBERTSON: I don't know if you'll be able to see it, but I'm going to walk it out. One, two, three, four, five six, seven paces to the back. My hands on the ceiling so it's about seven foot high and the width across one, two. It's a good three paces across.
So that's about 25 feet long about 12 feet across, and seven or eight feet on the ceiling. And this is covered in soot, black soot from years of fire. The heavy strong door. Anyone inside there is going to be very safe from the types of missiles that we've seen falling just the last few hours. Those grad rockets.
I think this is a little impromptu re-enactment for us with chorus and verse how they're not afraid of the grads and the missiles that have been fired by Gadhafi. What they're doing is showing us how the kids can get in here when the rockets are coming, and they get afraid.
It's a show of bravado, but this is what the rebels want us to see, these caves and how the families are being kept safe.
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BALDWIN: Nic Robertson in Libya. And now we are a mere eight minutes away from "THE SITUATION ROOM." Let's check in with Wolf Blitzer who is here.
Wolf, I tell you what. I'm always excited to watch your show, but today I'm very excited because huge historic arrest today with Ratko Mladic. And you are talking -- CNN can cover this story like no one else. You're talking to? Christiane Amanpour.
WOLF BLITZER, THE SITUATION ROOM: Christiane. Some reporters out there you only need a first name, Christiane. You know, you don't need Amanpour.
Christiane is enough. I worked with her for a long, long time here at CNN, but certainly she made her mark covering the war in the Balkans there is no doubt about that.
So we invited her to come back to CNN to share some thoughts on what it means that Mladic has now been captured. I think this is going to be very, very fascinating.
I want to hear what went through her mind when she heard earlier today that Mladic is under arrest. It's been a long, long time, what, 15, 16 years.
BALDWIN: 1995.
BLITZER: Since he was a war criminal. That's right. So it's one of those major stories. And all of us who remember Srebrenica and what was going on in Bosnia, later in Kosovo, it was an emotional story.
I went there a couple of times myself so it was awful. It was the worst massacre in Europe since World War II and we'll update our viewers on what is going on today.
BALDWIN: Wolf Blitzer, I look forward to it. We'll see you in a couple of minutes on "THE SITUATION ROOM".
BLITZER: Thank you.
And now this, new signs that Sarah Palin could be soon be putting her presidential hat in the presidential ring? The center of the speculation there is a movie about herself. It also features, though, some of her worst enemies. Joe Johns has that in "Political Pop." Mr. Johns is next.
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BALDWIN: A movie detailing the life of Sarah Palin may soon be hitting the silver screen. It's slated to release actually as early as next month in Iowa and supposedly was commissioned by Palin herself.
Joe Johns is here with the "Political Pop." Joe, do tell, what exactly is the movie about?
JOE JOHNS, CNN ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's about a lot of stuff. It's a documentary. It's called "The Undefeated." The first we heard of it was when the web site "Real Clear Politics" broke the story Tuesday night.
The guy who wrote the story is named Scott Conroy. Also co-wrote a book on Sarah Palin called "Sarah from Alaska." This is the only known journalist to have seen a rough cut of this movie.
I talked to him on the phone earlier today. He said it cost a bunch of money to make, and it's all about casting Sarah Palin in a more positive light, you know, in 100 different ways, I think.
BALDWIN: OK. It obviously does because it's called "The Undefeated." Does it tell her side of the election story?
JOHNS: You know, actually, this movie, as he describes it is not what you think it is. Scott Conroy says it's a lot of stuff explaining why she left her job as governor of Alaska.
It talked about ethics controversies that she got involved in become in her home state, oil and gas industry stuff, which is a big deal in Alaskan politics.
He says it kind of gets down in the weaves on policy issues, but also shows how she worked with Democrats in the state to get things done. So apparently much of this is about Alaska.
BALDWIN: Why is it so Alaska-centric?
JOHNS: The filmmaker, Steven Banyan reportedly told Palin at the outset number one, he is going the finance it for her. The reason why Palin wanted this is because she wanted sort of a way to show why she left the governor's job because some conservatives thought she was damaged goods.
And basically, wants to clear the air, I think, on why she resigned and the movie apparently is trying to explain that. Perhaps in the event she decides to go ahead and run for president.
BALDWIN: Well, wasn't it last week, I think it was last Thursday where she was saying she still has a fire in her belly maybe to defeat President Obama. She has not come out and said I am running.
She also hasn't said I'm not running, but might this movie be a sign? Hello, it's in Iowa next month. Might that be a sign that she wants to throw her hat in the ring? And what other signs are out there that could suggest that?
JOHNS: Yes, well, it might be that she is interested to see how the movie is received, see how her national tour is received. She has done some other stuff there are multiple reports with a lot of specifics.
We haven't been able to confirm it just yet, that this house -- they're actually -- I'm getting ahead of myself. They're actually getting a house at a cost of almost $1.7 million.
BALDWIN: In Scottsdale.
JOHNS: It's 8,000 square feet, lots of privacy and that too has created speculation, you know. It's John McCain's home state perhaps the kind of place in the lower 48 where she would want to be if she launched a run for president. But still, you're right. Nobody said anything officially and she hasn't either.
BALDWIN: What about quickly, Fox. We know Palin is a contributor on that network.
JOHNS: Right.
BALDWIN: They have put out a statement saying? She is not leaving yet.
JOHNS: No. She is not leaving yet and they're not changing her status. She makes big bucks over that, over there at Fox TV news and as it stands now, she is going to stick around there.
There are some other people who are contributors who have already left or whatever had to end their contracts because they were getting in the race or made noises like they were getting in the race.
BALDWIN: So obviously that would be the sure sign. When she leaves Fox, perhaps, perhaps that means she is throwing her hat in the ring. We're all watching, her and several others.
Joe Johns, thank you so much. And that is it for me. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thanks for watching the last two hours and now to my colleague, Wolf Blitzer in "THE SITUATION ROOM." Wolf to you.
