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Casey Anthony Murder Trial Continues; Romney vs. Obama; Romney and Obama Tied in New Poll; Getting Sick at the Hospital; Casey Anthony Murder Trial; Reid Weighs in On Scandal; Is Sexting Adultery?; Goolsbee Leaving Obama Administration; "Gold Summit" is On
Aired June 07, 2011 - 16:01 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Now, top of the hour, watch this.
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BALDWIN: Are you safe in the hospital? I will speak with one surgeon who is now blowing the whistle, and his claims about supplies and infections are disturbing. We're going to get reaction from the hospital live.
I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Barack Obama has failed America.
BALDWIN (voice-over): A new poll suggests Mitt Romney is now beating the president -- why the race in 2012 could come down to one issue.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is it right here on our left.
BALDWIN: A Marine is dead after a SWAT team puts 22 bullets inside of him. Officers call it a drug raid. Some in the community call it suspicious. And now brand-new pictures inside this crime scene are raising more questions than answers. We have the photos.
Plus: revelations from the courtroom.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The worst odor that you could possibly smell. It was horrible.
BALDWIN: Witnesses take the stand in the Casey Anthony murder trial to talk about what was found in the trunk of her car.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you first opened it, what was your reaction?
BALDWIN: One investigator calls the discoveries shocking.
And going inside a funnel cloud, stunning new video of a tornado's sudden impact.
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BALDWIN: Welcome back, hour two rolling on here on CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Want to begin with Moammar Gadhafi. Alive or dead? Whenever a few days pass without a public appearance or a statement from the Libyan leader, speculation starts to swirl, and understandably, since NATO aircraft strike military and government targets in Tripoli, the capital, where he lives, nearly each and every day.
But Moammar Gadhafi did take to the state-run airwaves today, telling viewers that bombs were falling as he spoke, and promising to stay in his country fighting if necessary to the death. NATO officials say they hit Libyan military intelligence headquarters in Tripoli today, shaking that city. Witnesses say they felt more than 30 explosions in Tripoli.
And that includes our own, CNN's Dan Rivers.
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DAN RIVERS, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: After his address, which lasted several minutes, there was cacophony of automatic gunfire across the city in sort of celebration to sort of punctuate that speech, if you like.
And all the while today, there has been an incredibly intense amount of bombing. We have been counting the number of explosions, the most so far since the NATO campaign began, 31 explosions so far. We have counted some of them, very, very close and loud indeed, rattling the windows of our hotel here.
We are being told by officials on the ground that they have hit a number of military compounds and also Colonel Gadhafi's compound itself. And there's another explosion just then. I don't know if you heard that.
Meanwhile, civilians have been coming into this hotel screaming about the civilian casualties that have been caused, but it's very difficult for us to get out on the ground to verify all this, with the constant explosions now echoing across Tripoli.
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BALDWIN: And now I want to bring in Dan Rivers for me live in Tripoli.
And, Dan, I just want to begin with these airstrikes before we get to Moammar Gadhafi's address. Have they subsided by now?
RIVERS: Yes, there's been a lull in the airstrikes, Brooke, for about the last couple of hours. It has been a day of absolute shattering explosions across the city, the most intense day of airstrikes so far in this NATO campaign.
For now, though, it is fairly quiet. After Moammar Gadhafi spoke, there was a cacophony of automatic gunfire in sort of celebration and defiance across the city. That, too, has now subsided, and it is calm. BALDWIN: Dan, we did hear from President Obama. He's visiting -- he's hosting German Chancellor Angela Merkel today at the White House. And they spoke a little bit about their mutual belief that Moammar Gadhafi must step down. Let's listen.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Chancellor Merkel and I share the belief that Gadhafi needs to step down for the sake of his own people.
And with respect to the pace of operations and participation, I think if you look at where we were three months ago and where we are now -- or two months ago and where we are now, the progress that has been made in Libya is significant.
Our goal there was to protect the Libyan people from a potential slaughter. We have done so.
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BALDWIN: But, still, Dan Rivers, we hear that message from the White House, and it's clearly falling on deaf ears in Libya. We heard today, allegedly live, his voice, Moammar Gadhafi, vintage, defiant Gadhafi.
RIVERS: Yes. I mean, he was completely defiant.
He was coming up with phrases like, we will not surrender, we will not give up, martyrdom is a million times better than surrendering, and so on and so on. It went on for about five, six minutes, I guess.
We're not sure where he was. His officials all along have said he's still in Tripoli. His compound has, we understand, been hit, according to officials, several times today. But we don't know if he is there or if he's elsewhere in the city.
And just within the last few minutes he's actually appeared on Libyan TV, greeting tribal leaders. Again, we don't know when that was recorded, where he is, what is his current condition now. His spokesman is about to give a press conference in the next few minutes, so we may get some more details then.
BALDWIN: Dan Rivers, we will stand by for that. Dan, appreciate you out of Tripoli.
And now, if it's interesting and it's happening right now, you're about to see it rapid fire. Let's begin with this story.
Congressman Anthony Weiner says he will cooperate with the likely ethics investigation hanging over his head. Weiner vowed not to resign after admitting he sent inappropriate pictures and messages to women online. He specified six yesterday in that news conference. But his political future is in doubt. Some high-profile Republicans are calling on Weiner to quit. Fellow Democrats are essentially saying nothing. Voters who elected him for seven straight terms are divided.
Coming up this hour, the watercooler question: Is what Anthony Weiner did cheating?
We have some new video here, a new angle on the tornado that ripped through Springfield, Massachusetts, last week. Take a look at this with me. Look at the force of the wind there. This is surveillance video of a parking lot, obviously not normal right there. But you see the tornado. That is literally the tornado whipping through these cars, frightening, frightening stuff there in Massachusetts.
Want you to listen to this. More than 2,500 firefighters are now battling the out-of-control flames in eastern Arizona. The wildfire is disrupting flights, forcing people straight out of their homes.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I cried all the way to town.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You did?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard. I got to go.
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BALDWIN: Can't imagine.
The smoke now threatening the air quality in the next state over, New Mexico, also disrupting some flights there. Strong winds are keeping crews from containing the fire. Obviously, we are taking calls, monitoring the situation there in Arizona.
To Cleveland -- jury selection is continuing in the trial of accused killer Anthony Sowell. He is the former Marine who police say raped and dismembered 11 women all within about a two-year period. You remember this? Their remains were discovered in 2009 in and around this man's home. Since the bodies were discovered, other women have since come forward alleging they, too, were victims of his attacks. He has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is it right here on our left.
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BALDWIN: A SWAT team, a police SWAT team, opens fire at a family's home. A Marine is dead. His pregnant wife and family are demanding answers. And now we are seeing pictures from inside the house. There are new questions about the circumstances surrounding this apparent drug raid. I have the video and the pictures. Don't miss this.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: We are getting this inside look today at a story we actually first brought you last week. It's a story that raised a lot of questions about how and when police use deadly force.
And what I'm talking about here is the SWAT raid in Tucson, Arizona, that ended with the shooting death of an Iraq war veteran. First, I want you to look at the raid. This is from the perspective from outside this house. This video was shot by a member of this police SWAT team and released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department. Watch this with me.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is it right here on our left.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On our left.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) bang, bang, bang.
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BALDWIN: OK. So, that is the perspective clearly from outside the house. That's from the Pima County Sheriff's Department, the SWAT team.
Now I want to juxtapose that with some pictures just released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department. This is the first look inside the house since the raid. So, you see, as we look through some of these pictures, these color markers indicate where 70 shots -- there are a couple of them -- 70 shots hit the wall.
The medical examiner says Iraq war vet Jose Guerena was hit by 22 of those bullets. You can see dozens of them went through a wall near his computer, near his computer chair.
But the pictures and other newly released records raise more questions than they answer. Interviews with SWAT team members show they thought Guerena shot at them first. But according to some of these pictures, the safety on his gun was on.
Also, "The Arizona Star" is reporting the records also show Jose Guerena was not the main focus of the lengthy drug trafficking investigation that led to this raid back on May 5. It was actually for his older brother Alejandro. But authorities searched Jose Guerena's home the day after the deadly raid, and, according to these documents, they found guns, they found body armor, they found a dozen cell phones and a hat bearing a federal Border Patrol logo.
Can Mitt Romney beat President Obama? One new poll suggests the Republican is already leading him -- coming up next, how the biggest issue from 2008 once again becoming the biggest issue here in 2011.
But, first, as President Obama meets with the German chancellor today, a new poll from Badoo.com lists the funniest and least funny nationalities. Can you guess? Thirty thousand people answered this.
Here are the winners. Number three, funniest nationality (SPEAKING ITALIAN) right, from my Italian 101 -- very funny -- the Italians. Number two funniest nationality goes to the Spanish. And the number one -- ha, ha, ha -- funniest country is us, Americans.
Coming up, though, can you guess -- no laughing matter -- the top two least funny nationalities? Think about it. We'll have the answers right after this.
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BALDWIN: All right, you're smart. You've thought about it. Who could be the least funny nationalities? Thirty thousand people polled by Badoo.com have voted. Runner-up of the least funny, the Russians. And the big winner of the least funny, sorry, Germans, you get the prize.
And now let's go to Washington here. There's this "Washington Post"/ABC poll that puts President Obama and Mitt Romney in this dead heat when it comes to a vote. I want you to look at this. Among all Americans polled for choice for president in 2012, they are tied with 47 percent each. However, when registered voters were polled with the same question, Obama falls behind -- just by a smidge, but he does nonetheless, 49 percent to 46, Romney takes the lead.
One person we know is not running for president. That is Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels. CNN senior political analyst Gloria Borger joins me now. Is the poll, Gloria, even meaningful at this point, one? And two, I know you were in Mitch Daniels country, in Indianapolis yesterday...
GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes.
BALDWIN: ... with who would have been potentially a front-runner. And I'm just curious what he thinks about how the GOP could take on Obama.
BORGER: Well, you know, first of all, this poll -- obviously, we all know it's pretty early. But if you're Mitt Romney, you're looking at it.
BALDWIN: Yes.
BORGER: You're thinking, This is not bad news for me. But you know, I want a cautionary note here that at this point before the '96 election, Bob Dole was beating Bill Clinton. Oops! So a little early on and -- but you know, it reflects Mitt Romney's name identification. He's run once before. People like him. They're taking another look at him.
As for Mitch Daniels, kind of interesting. We went to the state capital yesterday in Indianapolis. He's the candidate that lots of people in the Republican establishment really want to run. They think he has a lot of credibility on issues regarding the debt, the deficit. He used to be George W. Bush's chief budget fellow.
But he believes -- I asked him, On a scale of 1 to 10, is Barack Obama beatable, 10 being beatable? He said he's about a 7 or 8 right now, and he thinks that the field is shaping up. He named Romney as one of the people that he was looking at. The other two he named were Pawlenty and Huntsman.
He thinks -- what's interesting, Brooke, though, is he thinks the Republican Party ought to take the Democrats right on, on the deficit issue, and he thinks the Ryan budget should have included not only Medicare but Social Security and tax reform. So he thinks it should have gone even further.
BALDWIN: Well, I'm sure some of those things will most definitely come up on Monday...
BORGER: Oh, yes!
BALDWIN: ... where we get our first shot at most of these guys and gals...
BORGER: Yes.
BALDWIN: ... at our CNN debate in New Hampshire. What should we be watching for, Gloria?
BORGER: I really think it's going to be great to see all of these people together on the stage interacting. And speaking of Mitt Romney, I'm looking to see how they all act towards Mitt Romney because he is the putative front-runner now. Let's start seeing whether they (INAUDIBLE) on issues like health care, for example, and whether Republicans start dividing among themselves on what kind of issues they each want to emphasize. I guarantee you, Romney will be a target. So it should be fun.
BALDWIN: And before we watch on Monday, of course, 8:00 o'clock Eastern, we want to watch your interview tonight.
BORGER: Right, 8:00 o'clock.
BALDWIN: At 8:00 o'clock.
BORGER: At 8:00 o'clock.
BALDWIN: Right here on CNN.
BORGER: Interview with Mitch Daniels.
BALDWIN: Mitch Daniels.
BORGER: Yes. It's funny how they -- it's funny how they like to talk when they say, I'm not running.
BALDWIN: They're not in it...
BORGER: So it was a pretty -- right...
BALDWIN: ... maybe they're more grounded.
BORGER: Right. Exactly. Pretty interesting interview.
BALDWIN: We'll watch for it, Gloria Borger...
BORGER: Thanks, Brooke.
BALDWIN: ... at 8:00 o'clock Eastern. Thank you so much.
Coming up next: You've been to the hospital? Who hasn't, really? It's any patient's fear, getting an infection in the hospital. It's an issue that many people now are talking about across the country, and one surgeon says his former workplace used dirty supplies, which he says made several patients very, very sick. I'll be speaking live to the surgeon/whistleblower in the case about what he saw, and then we will have the hospital respond to those claims. Stay right there. You need to hear this.
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BALDWIN: OK, so you check into the hospital and you leave with a potentially deadly staph infection. We have all heard stories like this, and if you've been to a hospital recently, or perhaps you visited a loved one there, you know it is an everyday threat.
Well, now a surgeon-turned-whistleblower is testifying in this lawsuit, saying that is precisely what happened because of budget cuts at the Milwaukee hospital where he once worked. So you have to go back to 2008. That's when this case starts. That is when Cindy Patrick, one of the patients here, had two hip replacement surgeries. Now, she says she was infected with the deadly MRSA bacteria during her stay at Columbia Hospital.
Dr. James Stoll told this jury last week that he thinks doctors there were using dirty surgical instruments, and because of that, more patients got staph infections. Dr. Stoll lames cuts to the hospital's infection control program for what he says were lax sterilization procedures, and he's been saying that for the last couple of years. And now he's officially saying it in court.
We're going to hear from the hospital side live here in just a moment. But first, Dr. Stoll, I want to bring you in. Welcome to you. Thank you for coming on. Here's my -- here's my question to you out of the gate, sir. How can you prove that this patient, Cindy Patrick, her staph infection, came specifically from dirty surgical tools?
DR. JAMES STOLL, WHISTLEBLOWER: Well, I think what you do is, is that you have to look at the whole processing operation and you have to look at the statistical rate at which infections occur. This story goes back 10 years to when a second problem with infections occurred in this organization. Quality measures were put in place and the problem basically went away. When those quality measures were disassembled, the problem started creeping back, and by 2008, it became quite evident that they really had a problem.
BALDWIN: But Dr. Stoll, let me just go back to my original question, specifically with Ms. Patrick. How can you positively prove that she got staph from dirty instruments?
STOLL: Well, I don't think that anybody was there checking the instruments doing a bacteriologic swab. So there's no way to say 100 percent for sure. There's some rational reasoning that has to go into the thinking process.
BALDWIN: OK. But that is -- just to be clear here, that is what you are saying happened, that these tools were dirty.
STOLL: Yes, I am.
BALDWIN: OK. Second question. Then how can you link this budget crunch -- we know that there was this whole construction at the time, now it's open, this $400 million hospital facility. How do you link that to then cuts in the hospital's infection control? You said there were some questions, problems cropped up. What problems were you seeing, and how can you link the two?
STOLL: Well, in the testimony that was given prior to the court case, the chief operational officer testified that Columbia Hospital ran at the 90 to 95th percentile in cost per hour of operating room time across the entire Ascension system and that it was pretty obvious that Ascension was not going to tolerate that. And one can logically presume that they were given instructions to solve the problem. So the problem was solved by eliminating the quality audit control feedbacks that were in place until 2005.
BALDWIN: Help me understand what that means -- eliminating quality control feedbacks. How does that affect patients and their likelihood of getting staph?
STOLL: Well, like in any industrial process, you want to look at the quality of the product that you're putting out. In an operating room, that means that you look at the instruments and whether or not they're properly processed. That requires taking instrument trays that are completely finished, pulling them completely apart off the shelf and making sure that they're cleaned, that they're sterilized and they're properly assembled according to the standards that we use.
BALDWIN: And you are saying...
STOLL: Those audits were stopped.
BALDWIN: ... that wasn't happening, that audit stopped. Let's talk specifically about these cases. You point out in your testimony -- I listened to you -- July, August, September, October -- four months, four cases of staph reported, which, by the way, we did make a phone call to the Milwaukee Health Department. They say MRSA is not a required reportable disease to the state, so we couldn't get positively data on an uptick in MRSA. So this is just your testimony.
Some may wonder, sir, were you just looking -- you were concerned about the hospital. Were you just looking for someone here, in this case, perhaps the plaintiff, Ms. Patrick, to prove your argument?
STOLL: No. I think that as a doctor, we happen to live in the community and have to live with these patients from the time that they get infected forward, for many times, decades of time. And this is not the first time that I've participated in a quality improvement process like this. So you do get to a certain point where you begin to understand that there are reasons that things can stop happening. And sometimes, someone has to step up to the table and say, This is not acceptable.
BALDWIN: OK. Dr. Stoll, this is your side of the story. I want to now hear the hospital's side of the story. Dr. Lyle Henry, Surgeon, Columbia St. Mary's Hospital -- Dr. Henry, good to have you on. Let me begin with you in a similar fashion I began with Dr. Stoll. Where do you say her infection came from?
DR. LYLE HENRY, SURGEON: Well, Brooke, let me just preface to tell you that I'm not an infectious disease specialist. I have no special training in infectious disease. And to the best of my knowledge, neither does Dr. Stoll.
But nevertheless, I would tell you that the vast majority of infections that occur with patients who have what we call clean wounds come with the patient. These are organisms that live on the patient's skin. And despite our best efforts of preparing the skin and using antibiotics, the experts will tell you, and I think the expert in this case testified that the most likely source of this infection came from the patient's skin itself.
BALDWIN: I listened to the testimony from the infectious disease expert, and that's precisely what he said. But could one ultimately, conclusively say yes, it was this person's skin or, yes, it was dirty instruments? Can you figure that out?
HENRY: Well, again, I'm not --
BALDWIN: I understand.
HENRY: -- I don't have the expertise to do that. But I would tell you that the infection control process at Columbia St. Mary's, for as long as I have been there, since 1977, by the way, has been as good as anyplace that I have ever seen. We were one of the first hospitals to report our infections to the CDC. We have an ongoing commitment to good patient care.
And I'll also tell you that during this period of time, I was on the hospital board. it's the ultimate quality control committee, and we had reports on a regular basis about not only operational issues and financial issues but infection issues.
BALDWIN: Well, we heard from Dr. Stoll because he is saying directly as a result of some of these budget cuts, you heard him saying the audit's finished. So, essentially you didn't have people coming in and cleaning thoroughly these instruments. I want to you respond to that claim and explain how, if at all, infection control at the hospital was affected. HENRY: OK. So here's the main point here. Audits are done on a regular basis, and once the audit shows that your processes are the way we want them to be, you tend to audit something else. You don't keep auditing the same thing over and over again.
In no case here was there any question about the sterility of the instruments. And there's a difference between dirty and sterile. And I can tell you from a personal point of view, I had my hip replaced at Columbia Hospital. That's my hospital.
BALDWIN: And as a surgeon -
HENRY: Let me say -
BALDWIN: You said you've been there since, what, 1977? You know what it's like to be a surgeon. You handle these instruments. We talk here sir - and this is my final question to you - we talk a lot about being an empowered patient. And what is really the take way for folkds who either live in Wisconsin or elsewhere? What do patients across the country need to do to lessen the risk of getting MRSA or getting staph?
HENRY: I think you need to talk to your surgeon, find out what their experience has been. I will remind Dr. Stoll that he did 150 cases in 2008 at Columbia Hospital. So, that has to be an indicator that this is not necessarily a whistleblower. Whistleblowers mean that they find a problem and that's proven to be true. This is more -- he's a witness. I wouldn't call him a whistleblower.
What you need to talk to your doctors and say, where would you have your surgery done? And I could tell you that my hip was replaced at Columbia Hospital.
BALDWIN: Dr. Henry, you got the last word. Dr. Stoll got the first. Gentlemen, I thank you both here. This is something that a lot of people deal with. If you go to the hospital or you have a loved one that go -- thank you.
And, look, that's both sides to one story, but the risks here of staph infections from hospitals. But there is a bigger picture. We want to help you protect yourself as we were just discussing as much as you possibly can.
If you or someone you love is headed to the hospital for a stay, here are some tips you can share with your health care workers. From the NIH, National Institute of Health. Take a look.
Make sure you cover up coughs and sneezes. So simple. Stay current with your immunizations. Make sure gloves, masks, protective clothing is used. Use hand sanitizer on a regular basis. Follow guidelines on dealing with blood or contaminated items.
And remember we want you to take care of yourself but don't panic. Most staph infections are easily treated with antibiotics.
And now to this. As job openings dwindle, the race to find work is becoming a cutthroat competition. We're going to take you inside what they're calling an emergency room for the unemployment crisis. The emergency room. That is straight ahead.
Also, Tiger Woods has just made a big, big announcement about his future. We'll tell you who the golfer says he needs to start listening to.
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BALDWIN: Well, we all heard the news - what was it, last Friday? Only 54,000 jobs created last month. That paints a pretty grim picture for job prospects for the unemployed. CNNmoney visited a job center that describes itself as, what, Poppy Harlow? An emergency room for the job crisis? Talk to me about this E.R.
POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM: Yes, when you hear from these people, it is their personal emergency, and it's the case for so many Americans. We got that much worse-than-expected jobs report on Friday. We've got 9.1 percent unemployment.
The president, President Obama, Brooke, coming out today and saying, look, I'm not concerned about a double-dip recession, but I am concerned that the country is not creating jobs fast enough in this economic recovery. A lot of people questioning whether this is even a recovery.
So, we went to this jobs center in New Jersey just to talk to folks about their situation. These are not the folks that you might think. Some of them have degrees -- college degrees, they have worked for a long, long time. But they really feel like the situation is getting desperate. Take a listen to one.
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SUSAN DEGROAT, FORMER BILLING MANAGER: There were a lot of jobs out there but they are slowing down. I have 18 years of experience. But I have no degrees under me. I have my high school diploma. But there's no jobs out there when they can bring students in for $11, $12 an hour.
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HARLOW: And that was Susan, just one of the people that we talked to. You know, 18 years' experience in her field. She was a former billing manager, Brooke.
And the frustration is not just hers. We've got 6.2 million Americans who just like Susan are the long-term unemployed. People out of work for six months or longer and the facts show us that the longer you are out of work the harder it is for you to find work. So, it's this horrible Catch 22.
BALDWIN: Uh-huh. So Poppy, you went there. You talked to these different folks. What seems to be the big theme, the big concern for the more seasoned workers? HARLOW: Sure. I think there's two. One is -- and this is what you heard from Susan. One of the concerns is that there is these younger people, these graduates right out of high school, right out of college or whatever training school that they have gone to willing to take the job, take much less money. They don't necessarily have the years of experience, but they've got the newer technical skills that a lot of employers want. So, there's that concern that younger people are getting the jobs that some of these older folks would have been getting before.
And the other concern really has to do with the fact that they see business pulling back, Brooke. What the head of that job center told us was look, in the first few months of this year, I've been seeing a lot of hiring. That has slowed down in a major, major way. Companies are pulling back now when we thought there was a pickup, Brooke.
BALDWIN: It's tough. Like you said, it's like, the longer you wait, the more difficult it seems to find a job --
HARLOW: The worse it gets.
BALDWIN: The worse it gets. We feel for them. Poppy, thank you so much.
And just a short time ago, Tiger Woods announcing he will miss the 2011 U.S. Open. Here's what we know from his Web site. The golfer says it's time to listen to his doctors and focus on the future. Apparently he's still having trouble with his left knee. Woods says he hopes to return as soon as it heals.
And now this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) Smell in this room, and I've smelled that odor before.
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BALDWIN: Casey Anthony's car trunk taking center stage in this murder trial under way. One investigator says he was shocked -- his word here -- by what he found inside. And the evidence now giving us a hint about what the future of criminal trials might look like.
Sunny Hostin is "On the Case." We're back in just a moment. Stay here.
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BALDWIN: All right. We are just getting some video in. Take a look at this with me. This is live pictures - live pictures from our Milwaukee, Wisconsin affiliate. What we're looking at is the aftermath of an F-16 fighter jet crash. This is over Adams County. This is about 45 minutes ago or so. This is a routine training flight. The only person on board was the pilot and the pilot did eject, survived, is being evaluated now. Clearly you're seeing this thing still smouldering, bits and pieces of it. We do not know if anyone on the ground was around, might have been injured. We're working to get information on that. But again, F-16 fighter jet down in Adams County. This is in Wisconsin. Let me get the town - Chester. The town of Chester.
Now to this. The Casey Anthony trial. It's sounding a lot like the episode of "CSI" or a chapter in a Patricia Cornwell novel. The focus is on the forensic evidence during week three of the trial of the Florida mother accused of killing her two-year-old daughter. And that includes air samples taken from the trunk of Casey Anthony's car.
Sunny Hostin is "On the Case." And Sunny, so far this week here, testimony is, like we said, sort of straight out of this novel, "The Body Farm." I mean, give me the highlights here. What are you hearing?
SUNNY HOSTIN, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, TRUTV: That's right. It's straight out of a novel, or like straight out of a novel. Interestingly enough, Dr. Arpad Vass, who testified yesterday as a forensic anthropologist who works at the body farm. That's the nickname of where he works. He testified that there was an odor - there was overwhelming that he determined was decompositional odor. He also testified that there was a shockingly high level of chloroform found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car.
We also heard today from Michael Rickenbach (ph), he's an FBI forensic chemist. He also found and detected chloroform in the trunk of her car. Right now, we've been hearing a lot of testimony from a cadaver dog handler, a police officer, Officer Jason Forgy (ph) who basically says that he's verifying his dog handling.
He says that these dogs are terrific at doing what they do best, which is detecting human decompositional odor and he says that they alerted at Casey Anthony's car as well as the Anthony backyard. So it really has been a CSI week in the Casey Anthony trial.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: But as you sit and listen, I know we have folks here at CNN and it is there job to listen to every minute, all of my shots coming from, you know, witness stand and I'm just curious how this science falls on the jury. Isn't it a little maybe at times dry and a little too scientific?
HOSTIN: You know, it can be. It hasn't been the case for this trial. I think the prosecution has done a really good job of breaking down the science and I will say this, Brooke.
I think as a prosecutor or even as a defense attorney, you've got to be well versed in this. You've got to be able to do it because of what I call the CSI effect. Juries want to hear about forensic evidence.
They've watched forensic files. They've watched CSI and they want to hear this kind of evidence. So my understanding in the courtroom is they've been paying attention to this evidence coming in.
BOLDUAN: I don't know about you. I'm fascinated at the fact that our science is how it is that we can take air samples out of a trunk and air is evidence. That's amazing. Sunny Hostin, thank you so much.
Congressman Anthony Weiner called the Senate's most powerful Democrat for advice, what would Harry Reid say? Let's ask him.
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SENATOR HARRY REID (D), NEVADA: Call somebody else.
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BOLDUAN: More lawmakers are calling for this ethics investigation into the New York congressman and we wonder what Americans are thinking. Is what Weiner did considered cheating? That's next.
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BOLDUAN: I'm getting all kinds of reaction from you to a question I asked, I tweeted out earlier. Is what Anthony Weiner admitted to constitute cheating on his wife?
And guess what? One of you said, yes. I did get it a couple of no's and one, it is time to redefine cheating because of technology that was a fun one. So I went on to an expert, family therapist, Wendy Walsh, here's what she told me --
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WENDY WALSH, FAMILY THERAPIST: Cheating is lying and betraying your spouse. You have a covenant. If it's something that you do in front of your spouse or with your spouse's content then it's not cheating.
But clearly and I actually read one of the very long Facebook streams, conversation streams with the woman from Las Vegas that he had an online relationship with and it was very graphic, sexual encounters.
But also the words, I have to come to Vegas. I have to really do this to you and her saying, yes, come on, baby. So this was foreplay for an affair as far as I'm concerned.
BOLDUAN: I don't know if this person is a man. Yes, I'm going to guess on Twitter it is because he says, my hot male says we would have to redefine cheating since there's more creative ways to deal with technology that we now have. Society now has to catch up to technology, redefine what cheating is.
WALSH: Brooke, don't let them tell you that. It's the same old story. Some people are going to be unfaithful and have bad morals. They have new path ways. The internet provides them with more opportunities and it provides them with this weird illusion of privacy.
But remember boys and girls, everything you type into your keyboard is set in stone on the internet forever or in somebody's hands who now holds your private secrets. But the difference between, say, watching porn or lusting after a celebrity and then applying those fantasies to your own spouse at home, with an online relationship, you have a real person at the other end. You're having a relationship together. That's bringing up emotional and physical reactions.
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BOLDUAN: And now it's Wolf Blitzer and where we will talk about something that you just blogged about. The topic is Mr. Weiner.
WOLF BLITZER, THE SITUATION ROOM: Are you talking to me, Brooke?
BOLDUAN: I'm talking to you, Wolf Blitzer.
BLITZER: We have a blog, cnn.com/situation room. I wrote about Anthony Weiner a little bit. I made the point, sure, a whole bunch of politicians lie out there, but you know what, most of the politicians -- and I've been a reporter here in Washington for more than 30 years.
Most of the politicians in Washington, members of the House, members of the Senate, Democrats, Republicans, liberal and conservatives, they are honest, hardworking patriotic public servants who want to do the best they can under very difficult circumstances.
Unfortunately, some jerks come along and smear the reputation of so many others, but most members of Congress, I can assure you, are working hard for their constituents and working hard for the American people trying to do the best that they can.
And I can testify to that from my own personal experience working and covering so many of them over the years. I write about it. I'm curious what our viewers will think about what I write about.
By the way, in "THE SITUATION ROOM" today, Herman Cain, he's the Republican presidential candidate. He's generating an enormous amount of buzz out there. He's shaking things up in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. We've got some good questions for him.
I think our viewers is going to be interested in getting to know this Republican a little bit better over the course of the next two hours.
BOLDUAN: Also, Wolf Blitzer, because of course I follow you on Twitter, another bearded man could be joining you. A favorite of mine, loved him in "Crazy Heart," Jeff Bridges today.
BLITZER: He's such a great guy. He's working hard to end hunger for children in America. It's hard to believe how many young kids go to sleep every night hungry and it's especially bad in the summertime because some of these kids, especially in urban areas and agriculture areas, you know where they get their food, their good meals? At school in the morning or lunch or whatever.
They have special meal programs and in the summer there's no school. They are not eating. It's a disgrace that here in the United States of America there are children who are hungry, millions of them in this country that it's inexcusable.
Jeff Bridges is working hard to try to end that and I applaud him for that. He's also got a nice beard so two guys with a beard were in "the situation room" earlier today.
BOLDUAN: And whoever wrote the font, Wolf and the dude, you get cool points from me. Wolf, I thank you so much. Look forward to watching that coming up here in a matter of minutes on the "SITUATION ROOM".
In the meantime, before I let you go, as the Weiner saga played out here live on this show, you may have missed this headline. One of President Obama's closest adviser announced he's quitting, but the timing here is interesting. That's next.
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BOLDUAN: Time now for "Political Pop." Some economic news for the White House, yet, another member of the president's economic team is leaving. All of this at a time when a new poll suggests 59 percent of Americans disapproved of the way that the president is handling the economy. Joe Johns here with that. The news today, Goolsbee out?
JOE JOHNS, CNN ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, yes. Austan Goolsbee is the guy headed out the door right now, Chairman of the Council on Economic Advisers. He's going back to Chicago to teach.
The president's statement calls him one of the America's great economic thinkers and says helped steer the country out of our economic crisis and so on. When you think about it, this is not the only member of the Obama economic team to take a hike recently, not by a long shot.
Before Goolsbee there was Christina Romer, she went back to Berkley for a teaching job, Laurence Summers left and went back to Harvard, Peter Orszag left the Office of Management and Budget and went to Citigroup. So it's not a mass exodus, but it's quite a few people leaving.
BOLDUAN: Something we took note of, worthy of passing along. The next question is, have Republicans pounced on this trend yet?
JOHNS: Yes, absolutely. Blast e-mails in my inbox a couple of hours ago, they are calling economic adviser, the job nobody wants. They claim people are leaving because the policies are failing. The administration didn't get back to us when we asked specifically about the job turn over issue.
But Goolsbee statement sort of goes back to the position they said many times. The economy is growing, the president's policies are creating millions of jobs and they are not talking about the possibility of just plain old White House job fatigue that happens at the end of, you know, four years.
BOLDUAN: OK, well, maybe they will be talking economics on the golf course. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on that wall? We have the president and Speaker Boehner, it is on. JOHNS: It doesn't get any better than that -- interesting because two or three weeks ago, you cannot drag a comment on these guys. Their stat is about the big golf game.
Now the date is set for this. These guys are going to tee off on each other June 18th, which is like the next to the last day of the U.S. open golf tournament here in the Washington area.
House Speaker John Boehner is talking about it and yes, he is talking just a little bit of trash, but I don't know if we have it in this sound bite. Let's listen.
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REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BOEHNER (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: Yes, I played with the president about a week and a half. I sure hope that I played better than I did yesterday. Somebody was talking --
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BALDWIN: And so the golf game will continue. Joe Johns, thank you so much. We're out of time now. "THE SITUATION ROOM" begins with Wolf Blitzer. Wolf, to you.
