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Survivors of Shooting on Norwegian Island Talk about Experience; LAPD Arrest Two New Suspects in Dodger Stadium Beating; State of Georgia Allow Videotaping of Execution; Debt Ceiling Countdown; Singer Amy Winehouse Dies at Age 27

Aired July 23, 2011 - 17:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: A number of big breaking stories top this hour in the CNN NEWSROOM.

It's being called by Norway's equivalent of the Oklahoma City bombing. A homegrown terrorist kills nearly 100 people, most of them children in an attack aimed to take down the nation's government.

Clock is ticking on the nation's debt crisis. They had a meeting between the president and the White House lasted only an hour today. This hour, new information on the next step Republicans plan to take and when.

And -- breaking news out of London, singer and long time drug abuser Amy Winehouse is dead in her home.

And sexting took down a U.S. congressman, but you know who sexts the most? We've got the answer this hour in the CNN Newsroom. I'm Don Lemon, the news starts right now.

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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: I can't understand really what happened.

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LEMON: Final moment spent in unimaginable fear. Two attacks in Norway, at least 92 people dead, 85 of them at a youth camp. Seven dead in a bombing in the capital Oslo. So far, one man arrested and charged in both attacks, that man identified by local media as Anders Behring Breivik, 32-years-old, described as a right winger. A Christian fundamentalist. But police now say they haven't ruled out the possibility that others were involved. The accounts from the youth camp of Utoya Island are chilling. Witnesses say a man showed up in a police uniform, reportedly he asked to address the campers and started firing. Because the camp is run by Norway's ruling Labor Party, investigators believe this attack could have been politically motivated.

The camp attack followed a car bombing outside a government building in Oslo. Witness now says, she saw Breivik buys six tones of fertilizer in May. That material can be used to make bombs. Norway's prime minister calls this the country's worst atrocity since World War II. These kinds of attacks were unimaginable in Norway before now, but as our Jim Boulden reports, Norwegians today are adjusting to a new reality.

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JIM BOULDEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As Oslo woke up Saturday morning, the terrible truth had already been confirmed. More than 80 young people massacred on Utoya Island. A retreat for the Labor Party youth group, 600 to 700 were there for the weekend. There was nowhere to go as the shooter used his machine pistol for two hours, say witnesses. Throughout the morning, survivors of the island massacre gave harrowing accounts of how they escaped.

ADRIAN PRACON, SURVIVOR: I heard him yelling, I'm going to kill you all and we also die, he pointed his gun at me but he didn't pull the trigger. He left then and returned an hour later when a few other people had gathered around me and then the people started running around because they didn't know where to run. He suddenly showed up.

BOULDEN: The alleged shooter arrested on the island Friday, also officially link by police to the terrible bombing in central Oslo. A 32-year-old Norwegian man, the police said, they are investigating his oppose extreme right wing views.

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: He's a free mason, this suspect and (INAUDIBLE) he could police on monitoring potentially dangerous groups, continuously. We cannot provide further details or specifics on this guy. This guy has not been on the police radar it seems.

BOULDEN: In an early morning press conference, Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg said, he feared he would know some of the young people killed on the island he visited every year since 1974.

JENS STOLTENBERG, NORWAY PRIME MINISTER: It's especial, when it's difficult when these people I know, and I know quite a few of those who lost their lives, I know the parents of several other who lost their lives and this happened in the place where I and my fiance became politically active I must say earlier today, I was at the paradise for youngsters yesterday an turned into a hell.

BOULDEN: The Prime Minister called a meeting of his cabinet Saturday, there were a number of government buildings badly damaged Friday, the Prime Minister called on all Norwegians to do what they can to aid those affected by the biggest one-day of killing in the country since the second World War. Jim Boulden, CNN, Oslo.

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LEMON: We're going to have more on this with a live report from Utoya Island at the half hour.

Here in the United States, the countdown is on, President Barack Obama and Congressional leaders are going nowhere fast in their attempts to cut a deal to raise the nation's debt ceiling, but there are signs of movement in just the last few hours.

Out Congressional correspondent Kate Bolduan is standing by for us on Capitol Hill with the very latest. Kate, I understand that Speaker John Boehner held a conference call just a short time ago with fellow Republicans. What happened?

KATE BOLDUAN, CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, he did. I'll get to that one second. I just want to give you a little update from there seems to be a lot of fluid parts that we're tracking out this afternoon. We have been told, my colleagues Deirdre Walsh and Ted Barron have confirmed that all the Congressional leaders that are now involved in these negotiations, they're sitting down. In just about a half an hour for a meeting and we'll be in there, we're at least told that we can get a photo-op of that. We'll see if they're going to be taking any questions, we can be sure Don that they will asking. So, we will see the democratic leaders Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as well and Mitch McConnell and John Boehner sitting down together. So, we'll see what comes to that this afternoon.

But to that point that you were talking about, that conference call that House Speaker John Boehner held with his members, this came after the meeting at the White House. John Boehner we're told according to an aid familiar with the call, on this call, told House republican members that he was working toward a package, if you will, of three to $4 trillion in spending cuts that would happen over two steps. Not a lot of details coming out about this. But he does say and it is significant that he says, that he's trying for this package and also says that their goal is to try to have something for members to review in the next 24 hours. So, really, at some point tomorrow, because they would like to get the legislative ball rolling by Monday, but in terms of that two steps, that might be a tough sell because we're not sure that Democrats have yet signed on to this bill. We have been calling democratic members I'll tell you, and have not yet been able to confirm yet Don, that they have signed on to this bill. So we're not sure yet if this is a bipartisan package that we're talking about -- Don.

LEMON: And no response from the White House on the reaction of Boehner's two step plan.

BOLDUAN: No direct response to this package. But we know from a statement that the White House spokesman put out following the White House meeting that in this meeting, President Obama reiterated his opposition to any type of short-term extension, and you know, as part of the statement that Jay Carney put out, the White House spokesman, he said this, and I'll read it to you, he says, "As the current situation makes clear, it would be irresponsible to put our country and economy at risk again in just a few short months with another battle over raising the debt ceiling. Congress should refrain from playing reckless political games with our economy. We'll have to see how the White House feels once they see if this is the deal coming out of Congress. But we'll have to be tracking that, Don.

LEMON: All right. Kate, thank you, we'll see you live at the top of the next hour after that photo-op. We appreciate it.

And for the latest on the negotiations, be sure you watch "State of the Union" tomorrow. Candy Crowley's guest will be Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, who has been at the center of the talks from the very beginning, 9:00 a.m. Eastern, Sunday morning on CNN. It is breaking news, that is Amy Winehouse singing her hit "Rehab." Its lyrics carries historical significant right now, London police found the Grammy Award winner dead today in her apartment. They don't know how she died at this point. But Winehouse became as well known for her addiction problems as for her talent.

CNN's Monita Rajpal joins us now live from London with the very latest. Do we know anymore about the circumstances that led police to her apartment, Monita?

MONITA RAJPAL, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Don in the last hour, police came out to address reporters that just outside Amy Winehouse's North London home and they made a statement saying, just confirming what we already know that it was indeed Amy Winehouse who was found dead in her apartment this afternoon here London time. They're still saying that her death is still unexplained and that a post mortem hasn't taken place just yet and until that happened, only then will they know and have a definitive idea of what has caused her death. As you were saying, is we know her substance abuse, drug addiction as well as alcohol addiction has been well documented not only in her songs but also in tabloids as well.

Not to mention also the performances that she had, many fans basically saying, she just doesn't seem with it. Her latest performance during her European tour back in June, in Belgrade ended early with fans booing her off the stage. Basically saying, she just seemed out of vet, she cancelled the rest of her tour with a record company basically saying that she needed to go into rehab and she agreed, and she did go but she checked herself out a week later. She was last seen according to reports earlier this week with her Goddaughter at a local club here in London up on stage supporting her Goddaughter who has also an up and coming singer. And some are saying, she looked happy, but again, until we know more as to what caused this untimely death, police are just saying that it's unexplained at this point.

LEMON: We have the video of her performance in Belgrade, it was just atrocious, I mean, let's just be honest. She couldn't stand up, she couldn't sing, she was basically mumbling, the band members are trying to help her out. And we don't know what caused happened. She could have been, we don't know what caused it, but chances are, let's just be honest because of what her past, and this is her in Belgrade. Hopefully Monita, this is not what she will be known for because she was such a talent. I'm wondering now what the reaction was and what the atmosphere is like now in London.

RAJPAL: You know, you'd say that you hope she would not be remembered like that, but I think a lot of people will remember her like that and the fact of the matter is she was an amazing talent. She had such promise, in fact, one of the local reporters in the newspapers here in the U.K. said, she was the best, she embodied the best and the worst of the music business. You know, her voice was, you know, compared to the blues and jazz singers of the 1940s and 1950s in a Billie Holiday. And she had such promise and she was living up to that, she was living up to that promise, but everything else, though, it came, you know, with the such highs of her fame also came with such lows of the way we saw her, you know, with bloodied shoes and, you know, tattoos, but just bloodied shoes and of course being drunk out in public and just, you know, completely out of it as people are saying now.

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LEMON: She was a mess, let's just say it, she was a mess.

RAJPAL: Yes.

LEMON: What are we hearing -- we're hearing reports I understand that from neighbors and neighbors may have heard some noise early Saturday morning at her house.

RAJPAL: Well, we're not hearing much at this point right now, again, police are being really tight lipped as you know, to what was happening around the early hours of the day, of the night. But what is happening right now outside her London home, our fans are pouring there, they're dropping flowers and lighting candles in tribute to this woman whose life ended just way too young.

LEMON: Monita Rajpal following this developing story for us. Breaking news actually out of London. We appreciate it.

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AMY WINEHOUSE, SINGER: The management at the time just kind of stepped in and put her in a rehabilitation center, but she didn't really need it.

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LEMON: That was Amy Winehouse in 2007 in better days. Two months ago, the singer's staff issued a statement saying they were doing everything they could to, quote, "return her to her best after she cut short her European tour." Celebrities addicts often don't give themselves enough time to recover. That's according to Dr. Drew Pinsky from our sister network HLN.

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DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST, "DR. DREW": When an opiate addict goes into treatment, opiate addiction takes months to years to treat. And one of the most serious risks in my experience to that recovery for celebrities and particularly musicians, is they return to their career, they return to the road far to prematurely and it's absolutely predictable what will happen. The fact is, you know, funny thing, people look at these stories and go oh, addiction treatment doesn't work. The crazy thing about addiction is part of the disease is a disturbance of thinking, where the addict themselves convinces themselves they don't need to listen to or do what they're being told to do. And if they simply do the recovery process on a daily basis, just simply do it, they will be fine just the way a diabetic is fine if they take their insulin three times a day.

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LEMON: More on the debt of Amy Winehouse coming up on CNN. Also coming up next, the nation bakes in 100-plus temperatures setting records in some areas. Is there any relief on the way? We're going to have a live report for you.

And straight ahead, men and women who cheat, who sends more explicit photos of themselves. The answer may surprise you.

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LEMON: That's a new video just in to CNN, it's out of North London and the person you're seeing, the body quite frankly being put into that private ambulance is the body of Amy Winehouse. Police have confirmed that it was her body just a short time ago. The 27-year-old singer found in her North London flat dead this morning. And they don't know the cause of the death yet, but they are investigating and we will continue to follow this breaking news story. We've seen the body of Amy Winehouse being put into an ambulance there.

In the meantime, here in the United States, today set a record for Chicago, the weather state and its recorded history, nearly seven inches of rain drench the city in the early morning hours. Roads and highways flooded triggering flash flood warnings for most of the day, nearly 90,000 customers also lost power in this heat. Can you imagine? A busted metro service disrupted and there were hour-long delays at O'Hare International Airport. Yes, it is summer, but the heat wave that's gripping much of the nation is more than just a -- it's downright dangerous to spend too much time outside. And when this hot, the elderly of course and the very young are the most at risk. Everyone living in the danger zone is asked to help out and make sure people are OK.

Horses are not exempt. Take a look at this. We found a horse that knows how to take advantage of a sprinkler to get the most benefit from its cool spray. Good for that horse. iReporters gave us a sample of what it looks like and what it's like to do their jobs outside and some of the hottest cities.

We begin with Brianna Keilar at the White House.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: At the White House, the heat and the humidity is literally affecting our equipment. So if you go outside with a camera, it will fog up, and that means that our photographers have to give themselves about 20 minutes before we have a live shot to help it defog. Here our live shot location on the north lawn, we're dealing of course with the heat index at 113, but also these concrete risers just radiating the heat upward. And these hot TV lights, well, they don't exactly help either. So, what we're trying to do of course above all is stay hydrated, wear cotton and when all else fails, my photographers have been nice enough to set off a fan down there to help me stay cool during my live shots.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SARAH HOYE, PHILADELPHIA RESIDENT: I'm Sarah Hoye and I'm in Philadelphia where temperatures pick well into the triple digits. And we have one very special block that's find a way to stay cool.

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UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Today we opened up the fire hydrant with this giant wrench. We also have a sprinkler cap provided by the Fire Department to keep the water down, we're not using a lot of water, but it's keeping everybody cool.

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LEMON: All right. They are having fun, but you know what? As we said, it is downright dangerous. Joining us now from CNN severe weather center with more on the nation's heat wave is Jacqui Jeras.

JACQUI JERAS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, it's brutal, Don. Like you said, dangerous and it's deadly. We know that more than 30 people have died in this heat wave so far and unfortunately those numbers are probably going to continue to go up.

Yes. A little bit of a relief out there but not before some records are being broken. These just in now from the National Weather Service, Kennedy Airport reporting a record of 102, Newark, New Jersey also 102. Central Park as 100 degrees. Philly at 100, as well as North Little Rock, Arkansas. And there's a live picture to show you what it looks like Central Park, is anybody even in Central Park today? You'll want to stay in the shade because that's the best place to be in, try and get maybe a little bit wet from some of those fountains as well.

All right. Let's talk more about what we're going to expect here in the upcoming days. And how white spread this heat is. And that's part of the problem, this is covering many, many states, the humidity levels are extremely high, so your temperature on the thermometer doesn't have to say 100, it's the temperature that your body feels and it's feeling 105 in Kansas City, 105 in Memphis, and the northeast corner now in with this as well. Now, we call this a big heat dome or an area of high pressure that's stacked up miles into the atmosphere. And we think of high pressure, we think high and dry, right, beautiful, sunny weather. But in high pressure systems, the air is descending and when it descends, it compresses, when it compresses, it heats up.

So, when you're closer to the center of this dome, you're seeing higher temperatures, that's why for example it's hotter in New York City today than it is in Atlanta, Georgia. You guys are closer to the core of that high pressure center. Now that's going to start to sink south and as a result we're seeing showers and thunderstorms across the great lakes and they're going to push into the northeast but that will bring a change in your temperature and bring your humidity down. So, Boston, New York City, looking much better for your Sunday, but D.C. on southward, you guys are going to stay hot through the weekend into the early part of next week. Still a long way of summer to go, Don. LEMON: That's a new term, a heat dome, everybody is asking me. What is a heat dome? I've been hearing all your meteorologists say that, what exactly is a heat dome?

JERAS: Well, it's basically a big dome of high pressure where that air descends and heats up and when you're near that core, that's when you're in the hottest.

LEMON: It says what it is. A heat dome. Thank you very much, Jacqui Jeras.

The music community mourns the death of Amy Winehouse, the Grammy award winner lived a very troubled life. We'll talk about it with a human behavior expert Wendy Walsh, next.

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LEMON: What an amazing voice. Music lovers of the world over are mourning tonight, knowing the soulful voice has been silenced. As we've reported, London police found Amy Winehouse dead inside her apartment today. She was just 27 years old.

And joining us now is our resident human behavior expert Dr. Wendy Walsh and Wendy, we want to stress that police don't know how Winehouse lost her life. Winehouse substance abuse problems were well chronicled. It seems talent often comes at a price. I mean, trouble artists who just can't concur their demons. And let me just be honest here, Wendy. No one could have been a bigger fan of Amy Winehouse than I am. I mean just a voice from God. And then she just couldn't get it together. And quite frankly, in the last part of her life, she was a mess, you saw her on stage. It was just terrible.

WENDY WALSH, HUMAN BEHAVIOR EXPERT: Yes. You know you got to remember Don, that great art, often, but not always comes from a place of pain and pained artists often turn to drugs to self-medicate. And you know that's sort of a terrible cycle. Then the addiction becomes the issue. But for those fans about who sit back and watch a woman, an amazingly talented woman build a career on a song saying she'll never go to rehab, you know, this is very tragic, but it's not really shocking.

LEMON: Yes, really sad. OK, we're going to move on. We're going to move on and we're going to wish the best for her family and then when we find out the exact nature of her death, we'll bring it to you here on CNN.

OK, Wendy, there's something totally different now. Let's talk about another Wendy, Wendi Deng, she's Rupert Murdoch's wife, a media mogul was testifying before British parliament members this week, when she slapped away a pie attacker. And I want you to follow the pick, you see her arm at the edge of the screen, watch, and then during Deng 38 year-old -- she's 38 years younger than Murdoch, I should say, and went, there you go. Bomb, and then she hits her. So she's been called everything from a gold digger and all that. But that slap, is that a sign of true love? WALSH: Yes. That is a sign of true love. You know, you got to remember, this woman may be 38 years younger than him, they've been married 12 years, they're raising two children together, she's doing the work. And, you know, as rich as he is, he's only had three wives, he started marrying in '58 and the first marriage was like 20- something years. So, this guy is not a big player, and as rich as he is, he deserves a young, hot wife, don't you think? And I think if she's doing her job...

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LEMON: Go ahead.

WALSH: I care for her, I think she's fabulous.

LEMON: You know, the older I get, age is just in your head, it's not a big deal. Who cares if they're 38 years apart? I don't care. I don't really care.

OK. From Tiger wives to sexting ladies, a new study found among people who cheat, women sent explicit photos of themselves more often than men. What's behind this, are men asking, so women are sending or women just send more photos?

WALSH: Absolutely. Generally women don't send nude pictures unsolicited. However, so they're lured into sexting by men. I should say, two things though, is that this study was done on a Web site that marketed towards cheaters, so these are people looking for a sexual affair, so of course, they're going to be doing that. But the other thing is, it is common place and I wrote a blog about this askmen.com, that women are using sometimes nude pictures as a calling card because it's a sign of female sexual freedom, and also I got to say, Don, you know, good men are hard to find. So, when I say good men, monogamous and has a job because more women are in the work force now, a lot of guys got laid off in the recession. So, there's a lot of female to female competition and we know what men like, you know, men like those pretty pictures, although it's not a good idea, I'm not endorsing it by any means.

LEMON: Hey, Wendy, can I ask you something? Just for quickly, I want to go back to something, let's go back to Amy Winehouse, why is that we have such an issue talking about addiction and abuse and those kinds of things, we want to sort of put it under the carpet that it wasn't going on with Amy Winehouse? What's up with that?

WALSH: Well, because when people pass away, it is a time where we want to express condolences, it's a time of tragedy, and we don't want to place any blame, even if they died at their own hands. And I think that's why people are being a little careful. Again, we don't know the complete cause of death here. And again, I still don't play whether people die of overeating or overdrinking or whatever, there was always some psychic pain that came first, and that's more interesting to me. I'm curious about the first five years of her life. Because I believe that tells it all and sets up the stream for where people are going. So, I mean, I don't think that drugs are the issue, I mean, they become the issue, that is the addiction takes over, but prior to that, it's about the psychological pain and what happened to her that caused her to need this.

LEMON: Very well put and that's why we have you here. Thank you, Dr. Wendy Walsh.

WALSH: Thank you. Good to see you

LEMON: Details continue to emerge in the senseless shootings in Norway that killed at least 92 people. A live report next.

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UNIDENTIFIED SHOOTING SURVIVOR: I was lying down and there were people falling around me, on my legs, in front of me. I was hiding behind them, trying not to move. I did not want to show any indication of life and I did not see him.

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DON LEMON, CNN NEWS ANCHOR: A survivor describing how he avoided the gunman who shot up a youth camp in Norway. 85 people died in that camp. The mass shooting followed a bombing in the capital, Oslo, which claimed at least another seven lives. Right now police have a single suspect in custody for both attacks.

And our Michael Holmes is standing by live for us at the camp on Utoeya Island.

Michael, this is just a sad story. What's happening at the scene now?

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And we're about three miles from the island itself. Nobody's on there, other than the investigators at the moment. But, Don, this hotel behind me, I got to tell you, has been the scene of real sadness today. It's become a bit of a community standard. A lot of the families of the kids who survived this, and some of the kids who did not survive this have gathered here. There's been a lot of counseling going on. This has become a real community center.

And what's tragic is a lot of those kids have left now. We spoke to them earlier in the day, but there's parents behind me right now who are waiting for word of their kids. There's still four kids maybe five -- they have said a number yet -- who are still missing. There's been police divers out in the water and looking for them today. And so the tragedy and the heart ache continues.

We have talked to a couple of kids today who told us heart-breaking stories of how they survived this and the things they saw. We have got a couple of clips of survivors of this. I want you to hear what they have got to say.

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UNIDENTIFIED SHOOTING SURVIVOR: It was about 20 to 30 of us trying to swim over. I saw a few of them being shot in the water. It was a powerful water. You could see the water breaking around them. You could see when the water turned red.

UNIDENTIFIED SHOOTING SURVIVOR: It's important that we stay together and strong. We can't let a coward like that stop us. Because going on to an island with only youth and executing them and they have no way to escape, that's a cowardless act.

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HOLMES: There's been a real stoicism among those who survived this, Don. And a couple of the kids said to us today, if this camp was held next week, they would go. They said they don't want to be defeated by what this guy did.

But the mood around Norway is, as you would imagine, just somber. People cannot believe this happened. And when you think about it, one shooter, 85 bodies, it is staggering -- Don?

LEMON: It is. And what about the suspect, where is he? Are police still questioning him, Michael?

HOLMES: Yes, they have been questioning him all day. It's interesting. They have been describing the sessions as, quote, "difficult," unquote. But he is talking. They have yet to get to, or they have yet to tell us they have gotten to his actual motivation for doing this. But we do know he's a right wing Christian fundamentalist. He has written anti-Islamic things on the Internet, a real extreme type of guy. A Norwegian as well.

I was talking to the defense minister her, having a chat with her a little while ago, and that's one of the things that really struck them too, this bombing, and then this shooting. And then it was on their own. That is something too that Norwegians have to deal with. This a very peaceful country, a very open sort of society, a very tolerant society, a place where you can walk down the street and bump into the minister of defense going to get lunch. That's kind of going to change now.

LEMON: Michael Holmes. Thank you very much, sir.

So get you caught up on the headlines. This just in from Washington on the debt ceiling talks. Congressional leaders from both parties are expected to meet just minutes from now as they continue to work towards some sort of deal. They met this morning at the White House with President Obama, but that meeting lasted less than an hour. A Republican aid says that Speaker John Boehner is trying to come up with a deal in the next 24 hours or so. Let's hope they do it.

Five-time Grammy winner, Amy Winehouse, has died. London police found her in her apartment. And right now they say the cause of death is unexplained. A neighborhood reportedly heard screaming coming from her house over night. Winehouse has been troubled with alcohol and drug addiction. And recently she cut short her European tour after stumbling and becoming incoherent on stage.

A cross made of steel, beams from New York's fallen World Trade Center is now as its permanent new home. It was moved from a church in lower Manhattan to the nearby site where the National September 11 Memorial and Museum will stand. A construction worker discovered the perfectly formed cross standing upright in the rubble of Ground Zero. It was blessed by a priest before it was moved.

Retired Army General John Shalikashvili died today of complications from a stroke at the age of 75. The polish native was the first foreign-born chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He recently voiced support for the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, a ban on openly gay and lesbian troops. His funeral will likely be held at Arlington National Cemetery.

Imagine a doctor delivering your baby but the hospital keeps your child until you pay your bill. We'll tell you where it's happening and what's being done to fix it.

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Los Angeles police have arrested two new suspects in a brutal beating outside Dodger Stadium on baseball's opening day. The man they first said was involved has been cleared. We'll talk about it with Holly Hughes next.

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JOHNNY STOW, COUSIN OF BRYAN STOW: We understand what a long road it is for the LAPD, what they have ahead of them, so we're really just waiting for the legal process to take shape.

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LEMON: OK, that man's name is Johnny Stow, reacting to news that the LAPD have arrested two new suspects in the brutal beating of his cousin Bryan Stow outside Dodger Stadium back on opening day.

I want to talk about this and other legal headlines with Holly Hughes, a criminal defense attorney and a former prosecutor.

Hello, Holly. Always good to see you.

HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY & FORMER PROSECUTOR: Hey, Don. LEMON: Let's start with this, because this is making headlines nationwide, Brian Stow has brain damage, and then earlier this week he had to have an emergency surgery. So how did the LAPD arrest one guy then clear him a few months later, when they arrested two new suspects?

HUGHES: What happened was they were getting reports that this first fellow that they arrested was the suspect. They put his photograph in a lineup. He has a criminal history. He's been affiliated with a gang in the past. It's unclear whether he still is or not. They had four different people who picked him out of a lineup. So they were confident based on those eyewitness identifications. Then some additional evidence started to came to life. It was a young child who actually started to speak about this attack. There was a young child in the car that was seen fleeing from the scene of the beating, and that's when police took a step back and said, wait a minute, maybe we need to go further. They dug up cell phone records. They were able to locate where each of these people were at the time and figured out, the fellow we have in custody is not it.

LEMON: LAPD chief and the mayor all along assured us they had the right man, even though the case against -- his name is Giovanni Ramirez -- never came together. Why would the police chief and the mayor do that?

HUGHES: They had four people who did positive I.D. identification. This is something we hear about a lot in the criminal justice system.

LEMON: But eye witnesses --

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HUGHES: Right. You're going where I'm going, Don. You get it.

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LEMON: You're always, oh, there's no eye witness --

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LEMON: It's often not right.

HUGHES: That's exactly right. That's why we see all these people being exonerated on DNA because they were convicted on eyewitness testimony. So, yes, they were confident they had all these witnesses. But I will say this. There's two things in play here that we need to be aware of. Number one, the check and balances because the prosecutor said, despite the fact that you're confident, that's not enough evidence to charge this man. We're not going forward, so the buck stops there. He wasn't charged. And additionally, the police stepped up when they realized they had the wrong people and said, hey, we are not going to go forward. We don't want to do this to an innocent man. We want the right criminals. And they went out, they bit the bullet and said, our bad, we did make a mistake, we're going to free him and get the right guys in custody.

LEMON: DNA and videotape.

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That's really -- that's it.

HUGHES: That's powerful stuff, yes.

LEMON: Let's go to Georgia now. The state of Georgia executed a convicted murder this week. Something that has never happened before, happened, they recorded it. They videotaped it. Why would they do that?

HUGHES: This was a motion made by the defense attorneys in this case. They made it here. They made it right here in Fulton County. This is home turf, Don, right down the street from where you and I are sitting right now. Judge Benson and Elain (ph), they made a motion saying, we want to video this for future arguments to the court of appeals, and subsequently, it's going to go to the supreme court of the United States with this new lethal injection thing because we want to see what happens to these people as they're executed. We want to be able to prove cruel and unusual, which is a violation of the Eighth Amendment.

LEMON: That's what I was going to ask you.

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HUGHES: That's where they're going. That's where they're going with this.

LEMON: Is it a good idea, do you think, to be videotaping -- I mean, it's --

HUGHES: I do, because listen to what Judge Elain (ph) did. Judge Benson had a tip Elain (ph). She said, yes, you can go ahead and video that for future evidence. But it's sealed immediately. Nobody gets it. It's not released. Nobody's getting a hold of it. I'm putting it under court seal as soon as it's done. So she did not stop the defense or any future people who oppose the death penalty from having that as evidence, but she did protect the integrity of it and the privacy of the victim's family in this case, as well, as the execution -- the person who was executed and his family, excuse me.

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LEMON: I know. I have to go here. I have less than five seconds, but we always want to ask, the woman who was walking with her son, didn't go to the crosswalk here in Georgia. Now she -- can she be criminally charged and prosecuted? Is it going to happen?

HUGHES: It's going to happen. And she's going to be sentenced, Don, and it's horrible.

LEMON: Yes, she was just walking. There was someone who hit -- it was a hit and run.

HUGHES: Yes.

LEMON: Terrible.

OK, thank you very much.

HUGHES: Thanks.

LEMON: An inspiring comedian overcomes incredible odds. He refused to let a devastating car accident destroy his dreams of being on stage. His inspiring story is next.

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LEMON: Each week in our "Human Factor," we look at ordinary people accomplishing extraordinary things. This week, chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, introduces us to Will Carter, an inspiring comedian who hasn't let a brain injury get in the way of his dreams.

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LEMON: I'm sure you've heard about Comic-Con. A lot of people here at CNN are making fun of me because I didn't know that much about it. We'll tell you about all that coming up next.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm amazed. I'm overwhelmed, actually. This is beyond.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, absolutely. The toys for our kids.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The action figures and video games.

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LEMON: It's the mecca for all the Trekies, the storm troopers and X- men this weekend. The San Diego Comic-Con is a massive pop-culture celebration with a fantasy and sci-fi bent.

For those who don't get it, don't be ashamed if it's you, here's actor, Seth Green, to explain.

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SETH GREEN, ACTOR: People come to Comic-Con expecting something. If you don't like any of this stuff, you won't have any fun. It's for the people that like it. I mean, would you go to an electronics trade show if you had no interest in electronics?

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GREEN: When you walk into Comic-Con what you'll be bet with is an overwhelming amount of visual stimulus. It's all this specific to the genre of sci-fi and space heroes. It's become a little bit like a Sundance because some of the most major motion pictures that are being made now are based on Comic-Con properties.

I had a tipping point myself a few years ago at Comic-Con that it once was, where it ceased to be the nerdy safe haven where geeks, like myself, could commune without fear of persecution and became a place where there's a human zoo element because there are so many other people who are like, oh, so this is Comic-Con. They want to be part of the spectacle.

If you intend to survive Comic-Con, you should have passes for every day you are there.

You have to hydrate. It's going to be hot. And no matter how powerful the air conditioning is in the convention center, you're overwhelmed by how many people there are.

Also have a list of events that you want to witness and check them off so you can strategize a path through there. Very difficult to maneuver. There's a lot going on.

All right, see you there.

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