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New Prostate Exam Study; Bank of America CEO Defends Fee; Remembering Steve Jobs; The Global Reach of Apple Under Steve Jobs' Direction; Sarah Palin Not Running For President; Wall Street Protestors: 'We Are the 99 Percent'

Aired October 06, 2011 - 14:00   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: And we continue on live here on CNN.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. Let's get you caught up on everything making news this hour, "Rapid Fire."

Let's go, beginning with the Occupy Wall Street movement. It is spreading today.

Rallies are being held today in cities across the country. We're talking Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, Tampa, Washington.

Folks, this is day 20 that these people have been coming out in New York, specifically, to protest what they're calling social and economic inequality and corporate greed. In fact, a couple of protesters clashed with New York police just last night. Some tried to break through a police line just to get on to Wall Street. About two dozen protesters were arrested.

We are live with more this hour.

Also, Steve Jobs, who brought us the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad, died last night. And for the past few years, he has battled pancreatic cancer. Jobs co-founded the Apple Computer Company in his parents' garage back in 1976. It is now one of the most successful businesses in the whole world.

Here's Jobs talking about his work, and also how he approaches it at that Stanford University commencement back in 2005.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOBS: For the past 33 years, I've looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself, if today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today? And whenever the answer has been no for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Steve Jobs was 56 years old.

President Obama making yet another push for his jobs bill in getting the jobless back to work. And he is putting lawmakers on the spot, saying they should be prepared to explain if they choose to vote it down.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There are too many people hurting in this country for us to do nothing. And the economy is just too fragile for us to let politics get in the way of action.

We've got a responsibility to the people who sent us here. So I hope every senator thinks long and hard about what's at stake when they cast their vote next week.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Also this morning, the president commented that the protests on Wall Street and elsewhere show the frustrations weighing currently on the American people.

In Kansas City, an emotional plea for the return of a missing baby. The parents of 10-month-old Lisa Irwin are desperate to get her back. Her mom gave her a bottle, put her to bed in her crib Monday night. She was gone by the time her father, who works the overnight shift, came home around 4:00 that morning.

The windows were open, the lights were on, and police say the screen does look like it was tampered with, but they admit they have few leads in this case. The FBI is using especially trained tracking dogs to assist in the search. The parents, as you can imagine, they're frantic.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JEREMY IRWIN, FATHER: Anybody that might have, they can drop her off any place safe, a fire station or hospital or church. No questions asked. We just want --

DEBORAH BRADLEY, MOTHER: We just want our baby back. Please! Bring her home.

Our two other boys are waiting for her. Please, just drop her off anywhere. We don't care. Just somewhere safe where she can come home. Please.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: We checked. There have been a total of 278 baby abduction cases in this country since 1983. All but 12 of those children were returned home safely.

In California, a burglary takes a strange twist. Kraig Stockard was turned into police by two men who had broken into his barn. There they found more than 30 CDs filled with child pornography on what they thought were blank disks. The burglars called police and told them what they found, and how Stockard was arrested. The district attorney is now deciding what to do with the burglars.

And mortgage rates are cheaper than ever before. The 30-year rate has now fallen below that 4 percent mark for the first time in history. So, what could that mean to you?

Well, say you bought a $200,000 home right now, and your neighbor had bought one back in July. By the time you both pay off your homes, the neighbor will have paid at least $25,000 more than you.

And another milestone to mark for Representative Gabrielle Giffords and her astronaut husband, Mark Kelly. Navy Captain Kelly being honored in a retirement ceremony this afternoon. He served in the Navy for 24 years.

Also there, his wife, who survived that attack in January when a gunman shot her in the head. Both of them have that book coming out next month.

And we also have some breaking news right now. Do you remember the group that said that women should not be getting mammograms? Here's what we're learning today. There are now people in this group telling us that men shouldn't be getting prostate exams.

CNN's senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, is going to join me live with the late-breaking details on that in just a moment.

Also, we've got a lot more to get through, of course, over the course of the next two hours. Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

BALDWIN: BMWs, Rolex watches, first-classes tickets all paid for by you, the taxpayer.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

(voice-over): The feds busting government employees in what is being called one of the boldest scandals in history.

From Music City to the Lone Star State, folks against Wall Street are recruiting some new voices.

Ever wanted to be invisible? Scientists revealing a major breakthrough. Welcome to the future.

And Monday night no more. Hank Williams, Jr. and ESPN divorcing. But their accounts of what happened are very different.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

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BALDWIN: All right. Breaking news here. CNN has now learned to expect new recommendations coming from this group of scientists telling men not to get screened for prostate cancer.

Our senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, is here to explain.

Not get screened? ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SR. MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I know. Whenever we say that doctors say not to get screened for something, it is very confusing.

BALDWIN: Yes.

COHEN: So let me tell you a little bit about this group.

This is the U.S. Preventive Services Task Force. Brooke, do you remember that mammogram story two years ago?

BALDWIN: Of course.

COHEN: Right. Who could forget it?

BALDWIN: Hugely controversial.

COHEN: Hugely controversial. They said that women in their 40s didn't necessarily need mammograms. And what we're told by someone who is privy to this committee's deliberations is that they are set to give prostate cancer screenings a D rating. And a D rating means that the harms are potentially bigger than the benefits, and so it is not worth doing.

Now, this is based on someone I talked to and a report that I obtained which is a draft report. So it could change by Monday, which is when it's due to come out.

BALDWIN: So explain that then to the men sitting out there who are thinking, well, I had prostate cancer, I only learned of it because I was screened. It saved my life. What about them?

COHEN: Right, there are men whose lives are saved by prostate cancer screening. There are also men who would say that their lives were ruined or partially ruined by prostate cancer screening. And here's why.

Prostate cancer can sometimes be a very slow-growing cancer. So you screen, let's say, at age 50, and you find this really slow growing cancer that's not going to kill you until you're 100. But you treat it, and when you treat it you can make the man impotent and incontinent.

So, you've now made him impotent and incontinent for something that wasn't going to kill him anyhow. But there are also prostate cancers that are fast-growing, so some screening does save some lives. The problem is, is that medical science has a hard time discerning between those slow and those fast ones.

BALDWIN: Slow and fast.

COHEN: Right.

BALDWIN: So, bottom line -- you always sit here and talk about being the empowered patient -- what's your advice? COHEN: Yes. This is a really tough one. I have to say, my husband and I have discussed this a lot, and it is really a difficult decision.

BALDWIN: What do you say to your hubby?

COHEN: What I say to my hubby is I say, you need to think about whether you want to know the answer to this question, because you may find out that you have this cancer and we don't know if it's going to be slow or fast. And if it treats it, I don't want him to be impotent or incontinent. He doesn't want it either, right?

BALDWIN: But you also want him around at the same time.

COHEN: But I also want him around. It is a really tough decision. It is one that each man has to make with his own doctor.

BALDWIN: Wow. Elizabeth Cohen, thank you so much.

COHEN: Thanks.

BALDWIN: Still to come here, we talk a lot lately about Bank of America. Have you noticed? Have you been on their Web site?

It has been having all kinds of issues over the last couple of days. So now we're finally getting an explanation as to what is going on over there. We will hear from Bank of America's CEO coming up.

Plus, we have new video of what is being called an invisibility cloak. We're going to show this one to you today.

Geeks, you're going to love this. Even if you're not one, stick around. I think you'll appreciate it as well.

And we have been talking about the passing of one of the most notable innovators really on the planet, Steve Jobs. But did you know about his funny side or his spiritual side? We have some little known details for you this hour, here on CNN.

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BALDWIN: We've been talking a little bit about these Wall Street Occupy protests, and specifically, the epicenter of these protests really began in New York City. In fact, it's day 20 there.

But we're showing you these live pictures. You can see the capital in the background. We're told, ballpark, several hundred people popping up to protest. And again, switching the image, these are some of those demonstrators there in New York.

And what we're told is it's a pretty noisy scene at this particular protest, the original one there in New York City. A large crowd of protesters gathering outside police headquarters to shout, "We are the 99 percent!"

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: We are the 99 percent! We are the 99 percent! We are the 99 percent! We are the 99 percent!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: And we need to mention, this has gone on much further than what you're seeing there in New York. This is also in Philadelphia, this is in Houston, Dallas, Nashville, and as we saw in some of those other images, Washington, D.C. These Occupy Wall Street movements spreading to more cities across the country today.

In fact, you're looking now at some of these pictures. This is Nashville and also Pennsylvania.

And anywhere from a couple dozen to a few hundred people showed up in several cities to protest myriad issues. They're calling an end to the Fed. They're boycotting standardized testing. They want the government to do something about a variety of issues protesters consider social and economic inequalities, and also want to prosecute Wall Street executives over the whole financial crisis.

Now, President Obama, this morning, in that news conference, actually address that last concern. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

OBAMA: On the issue of prosecutions on Wall Street, one of the biggest problems about the collapse of Lehman's and the subsequent financial crisis and the whole subprime lending fiasco is that a lot of that stuff wasn't necessarily illegal, it was just immoral or inappropriate or reckless.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: The Occupy Wall Street protest in New York did get a little rough last night. Take a look at this crowd.

We're told a handful of protesters tried to crash through a police line to get on to Wall Street. There were other scuffles between police and these different protesters.

About two dozen people in total last night were arrested. In fact, we will take you live to the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York later this hour. Stick around for that.

But now to this. Hey, Bank of America customers, do you know that those new fees that we've been talking about for the better part of the last week? They're better for you. At least that is what the chief of the bank is saying. And if you don't like them, you have plenty of time to make change before the fees begin.

Alison Kosik, you've been all over this, tracking this growing uproar, right, over these $5-a-month fees?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Yes.

BALDWIN: What exactly did the CEO -- what did Brian Moynihan say, his reason, I guess, for defending the fees?

KOSIK: Yes. So, Brian Moynihan coming out, being on the defensive, obviously, because, clearly, his customers are angry, they're upset. They're upset about that $5 monthly fee. So what he is doing is giving his side of the story.

And he says in this case, a business needs to satisfy its shareholders. So, when a revenue source is taken away, another needs to be added, because what Bank of America and other businesses like him need, they need to attract investors who then give the company money. Then the company can go ahead and grow and expand. So that's his explanation.

Here's more when he spoke yesterday at a conference in Washington, D.C. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BRIAN MOYNIHAN, CEO, BANK OF AMERICA: I have an inherent duty as a CEO of a publicly held company to get a return for my shareholders. At the same time, I have an inherent duty to do a great job for my customers. We will talk to our customers, and we'll talk to our teammates, which we have, and they'll understand what we're doing, understand we have a right to make a profit.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KOSIK: So maybe saying they have the right to make a profit may not be the best choice of words at this point, considering the state of the economy, considering it's pretty much bad PR at this point because of the environment about these fees being tacked on to everybody's bank accounts.

But his duty is to his shareholders, Brooke. It's to his customers, too, so it's something every CEO has to deal with.

But the issue for Moynihan at this point is, can he balance those two groups? He says the $5 does that. The proof is going to be in the pudding though. The question is, of course, will these Bank of America customers stay or will they defect to a new bank?

Brooke.

BALDWIN: Before -- and we don't know that, obviously, yet. And I want to ask you about the Web site, because I know I have noticed problems as well. But just remind us, when do these fees kick in?

KOSIK: These fees kick in next year, Brooke. Early next year for Bank of America.

BALDWIN: OK. And Bank of America's Web site -- what's going on?

KOSIK: Yes. So there have been sporadic outages. If you've tried to log on to their Web site, you may not have been able. These started back on last Friday. In fact, they started one day after the $5 fee was announced, so all the speculation came out that the two were actually tied together, that maybe hackers were trying to get into the site because they were upset about the fee. But now we come to today, six days later. Bank of America explaining these outages, saying that they're in the process of implementing new online tools for customers.

So, apparently, there were technical difficulties. It didn't have to do with this $5 fee, so they say. Also, they had a lot heavier than normal traffic going through there -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: OK. Alison Kosik, thank you very much.

Still to come -- and this may be a bit of an understatement. You know sometime bad guys, they're not so smart, are they?

Take a look at this picture. This guy is accused of stealing a woman's cell phone. This is just one of several photographs. And let's just say he took a picture of himself, and somehow it made it on to the victim's Facebook page.

That is ahead.

Plus, a flood of 911 calls about a body in a yard and a man hanging on by his hands from a house. It's not what you're thinking. We'll explain, straight ahead.

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BALDWIN: OK. The "Oops Moment of the Day" comes to us from Henry County, Georgia. That's just outside of Atlanta.

This is where an alleged thief is helping police by inadvertently putting his own mug shot on Facebook. Here's the story.

According to the "AJC," "Atlanta Journal-Constitution," someone broke into a woman's unlocked car outside a daycare center. The suspect took her purse, and he used the cell phone inside that purse to take this lovely picture.

Well, it turns out the phone was set to automatically upload pictures to the woman's Facebook page. So the victim found the picture on Facebook, remembered seeing this guy outside the daycare center.

Police obviously beyond happy about this one. They say they rarely get such great looking picture of suspects just before they're caught.

And if you are just kind of listening to me right now, you're not watching, do me a favor. Look up, walk toward me, because you'll want to see this. Because you're about to see something actually turn invisible.

Watch the middle of the screen. It looks like that kind of disappears. Do you see that going back and forth?

Scientists have created what they're calling an invisibility cloak. It's kind of like a mirage effect. A super-thin carbon sheet warps light and makes things disappear.

So far, it works best under water. This is under water here. Still in a testing phase, but this could mean huge things for, for example, the military.

OK. You're at bat. No pressure. Just game four of the National League Division series. And what do you see scurry across home plate? Take a look with me.

Watch. Oh, there it goes. It's a squirrel dashing across during last night's game.

This is Cardinals/Phillies. This guy is kind of like, all right, I'm going to hang tight before I swing. The little guy has been MIA since then.

One more time. One more time. And there it went.

And a Halloween display triggers a 911 call. It looks like a man hanging by his hands from a rain gutter. This is a dummy, but a 911 call from a worried citizen caused the fire department to appear. A similar thing apparently happened earlier this week, when people called after thinking someone was caught under a lawn mower. OK.

With the death of Steve Jobs, most people remember his incredible innovations in computers and cell phones. But how about his vision in Hollywood? We're going to show you how his innovations changed the world of animated film.

Plus, did you realize Steve Jobs was actually a pretty funny guy? We're going to hear some of his best professional moments straight ahead.

Stay with us.

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BALDWIN: And now to the death of Steve Jobs.

With the release just this week of Apple's latest iPhone upgrade, the 4S, CNN was already dedicating in-depth coverage to how mobile our society has really become. And Steve Jobs was at the forefront of that. And with his death last night, we're now asking this: How did this one man come to be a modern-day Thomas Edison, a genius, a visionary, the man on the cover of "TIME" magazine -- look at this -- multiple times, gracing the cover?

I want to you hear this excerpt. This is from a speech he gave at Stanford University's commencement back in 2005, where he told the graduates in Palo Alto about how he was a college dropout born to an unwed mother.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, JUNE 12, 2005)

STEVE JOBS, CO-FOUNDER, APPLE: I dropped out of Reed College after the first six months, but then stayed around as a drop-in for another 18 months or so before I really quit. So, why did I drop out? It started before I was born.

My biological mother was a young unwed graduate student, and she decided to put me up for adoption. She felt very strongly that I should be adopted by college graduates, so everything was all set for me to be adopted at birth by a lawyer and his wife, except that, when I popped out, they decided at the last minute that they really wanted a girl.

So, my parents, who were on a waiting list, got a call in the middle of the night asking: "We've got an unexpected baby boy. Do you want him?"

They said, "Of course."

My biological mother found out later that my mother had never graduated from college and that my father had never graduated from high school. She refused to sign the final adoption papers. She only relented a few months later when my parents promised that I would go to college.

This was the start in my life. And 17 years later, I did go to college, but I naively chose a college that was almost as expensive as Stanford. And all of my working-class parents' savings were being spent on my college tuition. After six months, I couldn't see the value in it.

I had no idea what I wanted to do with my life, and no idea how college was going to help me figure it out, and here I was, spending all the money my parents had saved their entire life. So I decided to drop out and trust that it would all work out OK. It was pretty scary at the time, but looking back, it was one of the best decisions I ever made.

The minute I dropped out, I could stop taking the required classes that didn't interest me and begin dropping in on the ones that looked far more interesting.

It wasn't all romantic. I didn't have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends' rooms. I returned Coke bottles for the five-cent deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the seven miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Steve Jobs in 2005.

Now, if you haven't heard his story, here's just a little bit of what he did. At age 21, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, they started Apple Computer in the garage of Jobs' parents home. The year then was 1976. following year they unveiled the Apple II computer.

So then Apple goes public in 1980, raising some $110 million in one of the biggest initial offerings to date. Two years later, Apple's annual revenue hit $1 billion. In '85, Jobs is ousted from Apple in a power struggle. The company starts to lose money.

But in 1997, Jobs returns to Apple and a year later the company starts making profits again. From there we get the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad and one of the most successful companies in the entire world. And the thing about the iPad and the other gadgets that Jobs brought us is, of course, how user friendly they are. People who know Jobs well say his quest for simplicity came from Zen Buddhism. Jobs embraced Buddhism early in life and he spoke about it at that same speech at Stanford.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOBS: Death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because death is very likely the single best invention of life. It's life's change agent; it clears out the old to make way for the new.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Apple may have started in a California garage, but it has a worldwide following. In fact, here at CNN, we happen to have worldwide resources ourselves. So we checked in with our correspondents today all around the globe to gauge just how far this news and really Apple's influence has reached.

Watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

EUNICE YOON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: China is known for cheap products, but this country has a huge following of Apple fans. The stores see tens of thousands of people every single day, and the largest store in Asia which was opened in Shanghai attracted over 100,000 people on its opening weekend. That's more than the L.A. store saw in the entire month.

Now, Steve Jobs has been credited for the success, and he has a nickname here. The people here affectionately call Steve Jobs "Qiao Bangzhu," which means in Chinese, "Master Jobs."

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What is the impact of Apple and Steve Jobs in Africa? Apple products like this iPad are very expensive on the continent. Most people can't afford it. But there is an impact. Because people have both aspirational and inspirational connection with the product and with the man Steve Jobs.

You come to a place like this, where people are using the Internet to connect with work, with friends, there is a lot of ways that Apple's innovations have affected cheaper products and competitors trying to imitate the innovation of Apple.

KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Steve Jobs' personality persistence have defined Apple products and the way they're sold.

Here in Hong Kong, I'm at one of Apple's newest Apple stores. This opened just a few weeks ago. Inside we can see the mark design wise of Steve Jobs. In fact, right behind me, can you see that glass staircase there? Well, he had a part in designing that. In fact, his name is on the one of the patents. And these wooden tables, now, they may not look like much, but they were commissioned by Steve Jobs to be that exact height and size.

And the same tables are used in Apple's design labs in Cupertino. And it just goes to show you how passionate about perfection Steve Jobs was, even down to the smallest detail.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BALDWIN: Kristie, David, Eunice, thank you.

And if how you handle adversity defines you, consider this. In 1985 Steve Jobs was ousted from his beloved Apple after a bit of a power struggle. So what did Steve Jobs do? He bought Pixar and brought you this buddy film.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

NARRATOR: Woody, the veteran.

TOM HANKS, ACTOR: Draw. Oh, got me again.

NARRATOR: Buzz, the rookie.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Have you been replaced?

HANKS: No one is getting replaced.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Excuse me.

TIM ALLEN, ACTOR: Buzz Lightyear to the rescue.

HANKS: Oh, OK.

ALLEN: You're mocking me, aren't you?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: After "Toy Story," Jobs and Pixar would follow with "A Bug's Life," "Monsters, Inc.," "Finding Nemo" and "Cars," all proving popular with audiences of all ages.

And the man behind those classic films and some of the most important computer advances of our lives also had a bit of comedian in him. So we pulled a couple of his public appearances, so you could actually see and hear Steve Jobs going for the laugh and getting it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOBS: Here's some stock. See what stocks are doing. Well, we're down a little bit today. Well, we have still got a lot more to go on the (INAUDIBLE) don't we?

(LAUGHTER)

JOBS: You can convert almost anything to anything. One of my funnest ones is currency, because it goes out on the Internet and finds the rate for you. So a dollar? Ooh. That's tough. That is tough. How about Japanese yen? Ooh. So you may not want to use this one too much.

(LAUGHTER)

JOBS: Audio track here. So let me go ahead and record something. OK. Hi, I'm Steve. Welcome to my weekly podcast, super secret Apple rumors.

(LAUGHTER)

JOBS: I have some pretty good sources inside Apple and this is what I'm hearing. The next iPod will be huge. An eight pounder with a 10- inch screen.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: So from Apple humor to, voila, the iconic Apple logo.

I wanted to just show you how this has really changed over the course of years. And we remember this one. This is original black and white when Apple first launched in that California garage back in 1976. If you can tell, this is actually -- this was Sir Isaac Newton sitting under the Apple tree. You see the apple there, apple dangling over his head.

But this one didn't last long. I definitely remember this one. Later the logo to the rainbow colored apple. We remember this one. It was one of the most recognized logos in the whole world. This one lasted some 20 years.

And then in '98, the rainbow went monotone. First in black and then white. Turned a shade of white. And it has been that way ever since. However, there is this. Take a look at this one. This is the new tribute logo. This was posted by 19-year-old Jonathan Mak (ph) out of Hong Kong. You can see the outline on the right side of Steve Jobs, his face there in the apple.

Last night, CNN posted a tribute video to Steve Jobs and his creative genius. And that video lasts seven minutes and takes you from a 21- year-old college dropout to the man who became indistinguishable from the products he launched. And thousands of you have already shared it with your friends on your Facebook pages. You're also sharing your thoughts on Steve Jobs with our cameras all around the world.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's put his products in people's pockets, dorms, bookbags. He's reached everywhere. I think everyone has a little bit of Steve Jobs in him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He didn't set out to change the world. He set out to do what he wanted to do, right? It just so happened that he was so passionate about it that he ended up changing the world and the way we interact with media.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There are a lot of people here who actually have a great amount of gratitude for the things that Apple products have added to their lives.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What other product can you buy where you can go into the store, have people that are very, very familiar with the products explain everything to you? If you buy any other type of computer, Dell or anything else, you can't go into the store and have them do free training on you, workshops on all the programs. Just the way he set up the company of Apple is a template for all companies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One of the biggest icons I think of our time. So it's a very big -- it's a big impact on everybody. And you want to believe that his products and his ideas will live on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's great, a great man, a great man in the world. So (INAUDIBLE) some people doing the same thing as Steve Jobs.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am shocked. It is almost like losing a best friend. He's always been with us with your Apple, with your TV, anything. I grew one Apple. And my daughter is growing with Apple. And he was just an amazing man, his brilliance. Just, I'm shocked. I'm just shocked. Rest in peace.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's a huge, huge loss for everyone. But I feel like his vision and legacy will carry on.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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BALDWIN: Time for your America's choice 2012 politics update.

Let's go to Peter Hamby with the news.

Peter, so now we know Sarah Palin officially not running for president. I guess so the next obvious question is, will she endorse any of the candidates already out there?

PETER HAMBY, CNN POLITICAL PRODUCER: I know. And if she does decide to endorse, you can be sure it will be as drawn out as this whole will she or won't she run thing?

But that's an open question. A lot of people have said of course she's going to endorse, but don't be so fast. She has lobbed criticisms at Mitt Romney, at Rick Perry, at Herman Cain, the three people currently leading the Republican polls. She has done that over the last few months.

And you know what? She kind of relishes this whole being on the sidelines and throwing darts or giving people attaboys here and there. I have talked to people close to Palin world. There is no guarantee that she will endorse, Brooke, but if she does I'm told it will be a strategic decision. She is only going to do it if she can make a real impact. So we will obviously be keeping an eye on this until the Iowa caucuses three months from now or maybe less than that, actually.

BALDWIN: And if and when she does, would it matter if she endorsed someone?

HAMBY: That's a good question. She is registering around 10 percent in most national polls. You look at obviously her supporters will go in different directions.

The real asset of a Palin endorsement is, one, media coverage. She will get blanket media coverage for whatever candidate she chooses to endorse. That could be very big in a conservative-leaning primary state like South Carolina or caucus state like Iowa. And, two, she can really rally the base and this will be useful perhaps in a general election. Say Mitt Romney is the nominee. Obviously he has got some problems on his right flank.

Perhaps if Sarah Palin came out and supported Romney as the nominee, she could help drive up turnout, get some of those conservative activists out there knocking on doors and making phone calls for the Republican nominee -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: OK. Peter Hamby, thank you very much.

HAMBY: Thank you.

BALDWIN: And now beautiful mansions, luxury cars, first-class plane tickets. Federal prosecutors say all of that was bought with money from you, taxpayers, by employees of the Army Corps of Engineers. This story is going to get you fired up. I can guarantee that. Stay with us.

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BALDWIN: Want you to take a good long look at this house. We will show you the house. It's pretty nice, right? Federal prosecutors say your tax dollars helped pay for this mansion. This is in Alexandria, Virginia.

And along with luxury cars, first-class tickets, much more, all through some multimillion-dollar corruption at the Army Corps of Engineers. Two veteran employees of the Corps and two others are accused of this alleged conspiracy involving more than $20 million in bribes and kickbacks for a government contract. And today they had a detention hearing.

And that's why we want to talk to Brian Todd. He's been following this one for us.

And, Brian, I know two of the people arrested. They're a Corps employee and his son. I imagine there's all kinds of family intrigue here. But first just explain to us who these four people are. What are they accused of doing?

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, the four people are two Army Corps of Engineers employees, one named Kerry Khan and the other named Michael Alexander.

Prosecutors say that they over a four-year period agreed to steer money to a private contractor named Eyak Technologies. In return they say that someone at Eyak agreed to overbill the government for those services and over a four-year period they say they overbilled for some $20 million, almost $20 million.

And with that money, that difference, they split that money among four people, the two guys who work for the Army Corps of Engineers, plus the one official who worked for the contractor in addition to the son of one of the Army Corps of Engineers' employees. So, over a four- year period, they say that these four men split $20 million that was overbilled to the government and bought all sorts of luxury items, the home that you just showed there, luxury cars, plane tickets, that kind of thing.

BALDWIN: So how did they get caught, Brian?

TODD: Well, I asked the lead prosecutor that and he said, we are not at liberty to say how they got caught.

I asked him if it was because these guys spent so much money on these items. And he said, well, they didn't find out about that until after they started investigating this. You mentioned the family intrigue, though. It is fascinating because prosecutors say that the one man who worked for the Army Corps of Engineers who is in on this, his name is Kerry Khan, they charged one of his sons with being part of this scheme.

Well, he has another son who is in prison. And prosecutors say when that son in prison found out about this alleged scheme, he threatened his father and brother saying if you don't pay me a certain amount of money I will go to the feds and snitch on you.

BALDWIN: Wow.

TODD: They say after that happened, the one son who was in on the scheme threatened to kill his own brother.

So that's where the family intrigue comes in. That's what prosecutors alleged happened within this family. Now one of the defense attorneys who represent the brother who is charged in the scheme says it was just some ill-chosen words, kind of in the heat of the moment and he cannot be judged by that. But that's one of the reasons that a judge ordered them held without bond today.

BALDWIN: Held without bond. OK.

Brian Todd, what a story. What a family, it sounds like. Thank you very much from Washington.

TODD: Right.

BALDWIN: In these desperate times, with so many people looking for jobs, a farmer in Georgia says he is losing crops because he can't find workers. Gary Paulk says the state's new strict immigration law has scared off much of its work force, in fact about a fifth of them. He says he had to abandon 20 acres of blackberries because he simply couldn't find anyone to harvest the fruit. Paulk also went to the Georgia Department of Labor to try to fill 75 jobs, and that, too, fruitless.

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GARY PAULK, PAULK VINEYARDS: Individuals that say, you know, that Hispanics or migrants are taking work from Georgians, I just don't believe this is the truth.

RAUL GUERRERO, IMMIGRANT WORKER: I have family members that used to come and they're in Florida. They would rather stay in Florida working the orange and lime and stuff like that. They avoid coming here.

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BALDWIN: Georgia's new immigration law allows police to ask about immigration status when questioning suspects in certain criminal investigations.

And now to Hank Williams. He has been all over the news this week after his controversial comments on FOX News. Here is the deal. ESPN pulled his infamous "Are you ready for some football?" song from "Monday Night Football" this week. We have now learned what his fate is long term with the sports network.

Also, Occupy Wall Street protest, day 20. Not only up running in New York City. They are all across the country. We are going to take you live to one of those protests straight ahead.

But, first, CNN Money has put together this fantastic list of the 10 ways Steve Jobs changed the world. And if you think about it, he's really up there with Henry Ford, Thomas Edison, and I'm not just talking iPhones, iPods, iProducts. His creative DNA lives on in things less tangible like advertising, the world of design. Did you ever think products that are so minimalist could be so beloved by so many Americans, and really all around the world?

His concept of the ecosystem is the reason why Apple products are so integrated. So why go anywhere else when they complement one another so well? More of the list after the break.

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BALDWIN: Back to the list the top 10 ways Steve Jobs changed the world.

The upcoming new headquarters of Apple, Inc., will be a sight to behold. Jobs was known for accepting only perfection. And he once said the new office space is about as close to perfection as you can get at 2.8 million square feet. And then the way he changed my world, music. I can't imagine a single day without tapping into my personal life soundtrack provided by my iPod, my iPhone. And now to this, trending right now. Day 20 of the Occupy Wall Street protests. And they are really spreading now. Let's take a look at one of these -- we will take a look in a minute. Rallies are under way in Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, Tampa, and Nashville. Add in New York. Protesters converging on police headquarters there, chanting, we are the 99 percent.

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UNIDENTIFIED PROTESTERS: We are the 99 percent! We are the 99 percent! We are the 99 percent!

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BALDWIN: Susan Candiotti in the thick of things in New York.

Susan, how is the turnout today? Is it the same? Growing?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, it is about the same as it is normally on Monday through Friday, slightly more busy, I would say, than yesterday in numbers.

Big turnout yesterday because of the huge planned march that took place. A little bit of change that we are seeing today is that there seem to be more police than there were on past Monday through Fridays. But we are seeing also more barricades, steel barricades set up on the perimeter of this public block.

Other than that, you have the same amount of people wandering about here, not so much a union presence, but mainly the young activists who are here in this park who have been pretty much from the start.

BALDWIN: What's that in your hand, Susan Candiotti?

CANDIOTTI: Well, this is -- actually they have gone so far as to publish a newspaper. They got a donation a while back of $20,000 to put this together.

This is the first issue. It came out over the weekend. And they are waiting for the second issue. So this one simply reads that, talking about yesterday's march, the revolution begins at home. And then interestingly on the bottom half of the front page, they talk about learning from the world and talk about other demonstrations that have taken place and including riots that broke out in Greece.

So we haven't seen what they had to say assessing what happened yesterday, a march where there was a lot of shouting and a lot of chanting and even resulted in some arrests at the end of the day.

BALDWIN: Susan, I'm just curious about this, too. We know today in the president's news conference this morning he actually acknowledged the Occupy Wall Street protests. Has there been any reaction among the people behind you to the fact that the president actually acknowledged this?

CANDIOTTI: We talked to some of the organizers who have been here day in and day out. The president was specifically asked about this at his press conference today.

And it is the first time he has acknowledged this group. Organizers say that they are happy that he obviously is paying attention, happy that he seems to be hearing their message that something needs to change and that American values are going down the tubes unless something happens.

However, they also added this, that the president is part of the 1 percent. Remember, they say, we are the 99 percent. And he is part of the 1 percent that's not making sure that change takes place.

Now, they say that doesn't necessarily mean that he's a bad person or everyone who is rich is a bad person. Certainly they acknowledge a lot of rich people do a lot of good deeds and give a lot to charities. But they say they at this point part of the problem and need to be part of the solution.

BALDWIN: Susan Candiotti, thank you very much, in New York.

Also trending right now, this is something that got you all a little perturbed, as evidenced on my Twitter page. ESPN -- here's the follow-up -- tossing now legendary singer Hank Williams Jr., tossing him a curveball.

The sports network severing ties now with the country music icon after he slammed President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner for playing a game of golf. Remember the two men teamed up over the summer to play a round against the vice president and the governor of Ohio.

Williams referred to the pairing as one of the biggest political mistakes ever. And in case you missed it, here it was.

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HANK WILLIAMS JR., MUSICIAN: Come on. come on. That would be like Hitler playing golf with Netanyahu, OK?

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BALDWIN: ESPN issued the following statement. Let me read it for you.

He says -- they say -- quote -- "We have decided to part ways with Hank Williams Jr." This is ESPN. "His contributions over the past years, the success of 'Monday Night Football' has always been about the games and that will continue."

Williams' hit song, "All my Rowdy Friends," has been the theme for ABC's "Monday Night Football" and ESPN for a decade and now Williams is offering up a different version of events. Here is what he says.

Quote: "After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made my decision by pulling my opening October 3. You, ESPN, stepped on the toes of the First Amendment, freedom of speech. So, therefore, me, my song, and 'All My Rowdy Friends' are out of here. It has been a great run."