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82 Countires Join "Occupy" Protests; Jobs & Justice March; Al- Awlaki Son is Dead; Catholic Bishop Indicted for Sex Scandal; Hip Hop is a Way to Express One's Emotion; Salon and Barber Shops Still Booming

Aired October 15, 2011 - 16:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: The spirit of "Occupy Wall Street" jumped the Atlantic and the Pacific today. Gathering spring up in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, London, Madrid and Dublin, and most of them loud, but very peaceful. The exception is Rome where police say anarchists set fire to cars and at least one government building. There were riot police with water cannons on one side and crowds of vandals with Molotov cocktails and knives on the other in Rome that is.

Let's go straight to Rome right now and talk to Barbie Nadeau, correspondent for "Newsweek" magazine. She watched this protest descend into chaos. So Barbie, what is it like right now? It's nightfall. What's happening? Barbie, can you hear me? All right. OK. Barbie, I think I've got you now. Tell me, explain to me what's happening tonight.

BARBIE NADEAU, "NEWSWEEK" REPORTER (ON THE PHONE): Well, right now I'm standing in Piazza San Giovanni, which was the epicenter of all of the violence that we saw earlier. And really right now the protesters are gone, they've all been carted away. But it's really a waste land. Right in front of me is a burnt out police vehicle. There are cobblestones all over the place. There's so much broken glass it's like walking on frozen snow. You know, there's just so much debris on the ground.

There's a smell of tear gas still in the air. Many of the protesters have been carted away. Lots of them escaped and have started trouble in new parts of Rome. We have 70 confirmed injuries, 40 of which are police officers. 30 of which are protesters that are confirmed injuries. There were a lot of other people who didn't seek hospitalization that were injured either by, you know, flying glass from these broken bottles and things like that. The situation is definitely calm now in Rome. There's normal traffic, there's normal movement in the city. But there is, you know, an aftermath.

Lots of these streets and piazzas were the epicenter of the violence are closed now and probably won't be opened until Monday.

WHITFIELD: So is there any talk, Barbie, that those who were organizing the peaceful protests, whether they will resume taking to the streets tomorrow or even the next day?

NADEAU: Well, there is right now. I heard the Italian media has reported that the peaceful protest will try again next week either Thursday or Friday. They have to get permission from the mayor of Rome. But I heard the mayor of Rome is also standing here addressing some reporters saying that he completely encouraged those protesters to get out again and try to have their voice heard and to not give into this anarchistic violence that hijacked today's peaceful protests. Because, you know, the people out on the street legitimately were overshadowed by the violence definitely.

WHITFIELD: All right. Barbie Nadeau, thank you so much from Rome.

A very different scene in London where thousands gathered near the heart of the city's financial district. Unlike Rome, the London protests remained peaceful. Financial protests like this are going on in at least 82 countries rallying against corporate greed, grinding poverty, and government cuts.

The global protests began last month in New York as Occupy Wall Street. Many of the protesters have been camped out in New York's financial district now for about a month. Earlier today, they marched past a Chase Bank urging people who use big banks to transfer their accounts to worker-owned banks. A rally in New York's Times Square is set is to begin in less than an hour from now.

In Washington, President Barack Obama is praising democrats and republicans for reaching a deal on free trade agreements. But in his weekly address to the nation, he expressed frustration that both sides are still so far apart on how to get Americans back to work.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's good to see Congress act in a bipartisan way on something that will help create jobs at a time when millions of Americans are still out of work and need them now. But that's also why it was so disappointing to see Senate Republicans obstruct the American Jobs Act. Even though a majority of senators voted yes to advance this jobs bill. We can't afford this lack of action.

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WHITFIELD: Republicans on the other hand say the GOP is actively engaged in jump-starting the economy. Here's House Majority whip Kevin McCarthy.

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KEVIN MCCARTHY (R), CALIFORNIA: We agree with the American people. No more budget tricks, no more accounting gimmicks, no more broken promises. The American people deserve the right to know the truth. And that's why we support a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.

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WHITFIELD: And the president takes his jobs plan back on the road Monday, a three-day bus tour through North Carolina and Virginia. Tuesday night in Las Vegas is debate night here on CNN. One leading Republican candidate won't be there, Jon Huntsman's beef with Nevada next.

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WHITFIELD: Veteran civil rights activist, the Reverend Al Sharpton wants to help lower the unemployment rate. He led a march on Washington today to drum up support for the president's jobs bill. Our Athena Jones was there.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Reverend Al Sharpton held a rally and march for jobs and justice here on the National Mall. It's meant to coincide with the dedication of the Martin Luther King Memorial and to honor Dr. King's legacy, not just as a fighter for civil rights, but as a fighter against economic injustice. Organizers here want to see members of Congress and the White House work together to do something to bring down the nation's unemployment rate. Let's listen to what Reverend Al Sharpton had to say when he took the stage.

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REV. AL SHARPTON, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: We come today because this country has ignored the plight of unemployed and people that are chronically unemployed on Monday in this, the capital. They had the audacity to turn down a jobs bill. So if you won't get the jobs bill done in the (INAUDIBLE), then we will get the jobs bill down in the street.

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JONES: And so that's really the point of the march and rally, to keep the pressure on the members of Congress to do something to pass measures that would bring down the nation's high unemployment rate. Back to you, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks so much, Athena.

Martin Luther King III is also at the D.C. rally. I spoke with him and his sister Reverend Bernice King earlier this week. And they see parallels between the Occupy protest and the civil rights movement.

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MARTIN LUTHER KING III, SON OF MLK: I mean, I certainly think we have implored young people, number one, because the modern civil rights movement was basically young folk. I mean Dad was -

WHITFIELD: So you see some real parallels between the civil rights movement that your dad and many others, foot soldiers, were involved in, and you see the parallels with the Occupy Wall Street.

KING: I certainly see that a movement could evolve from what they are doing. And my prayer is that it always stays non-violent. If it reverts to violence, that would be terrible. But I don't see that happening. WHITFIELD: And at the root of both movements, we're talking frustration of economic disparities. Do you think that when you see some of the young people - and people of all ages. Not just young people, but people right in the middle, people who are older, some who have jobs, some who don't, et cetera. When they're out there, did you feel like you could identify right away that this is very similar to how the seeds of the civil right movement began?

BERNICE KING, DAUGHTER OF MLK: Well, certainly the roots of the civil rights movement. As we know when daddy started, there were already things happening. It wasn't - the movement didn't start December 1st, 1955. In fact, that wasn't the first time someone had sat down on a bus and was mistreated. And so - but the seeds of where people get tired of being trampled upon, being mistreated, I see those seeds of frustration being expressed.

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WHITFIELD: And tune in tomorrow in the 2:00 Eastern hour for more of my interview with Bernice King and Martin Luther King III to discuss the memorial to their father, what it makes them feel like when they are on the nation's capital.

And Tuesday night is debate night in Nevada. CNN hosts an evening of Q&A with the leading Republican candidates for president. But one of those candidates says he's not going to be there. Jon Huntsman took Nevada off his campaign calendar completely. The former Utah governor is not happy with the state's decision the to move its GOP caucus ahead of New Hampshire's. Huntsman says he made other plans for Tuesday.

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JON HUNTSMAN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So I say if you're going to boycott Nevada, you boycott the debate. You do it straight up, you do it fully loaded, and so Tuesday night, we're going to be here as we will be on Monday campaigning and doing town hall meetings. And sharing our vision with the people of New Hampshire and answering questions that people of New Hampshire have about where this country needs to go.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Live now to Las Vegas and our senior political editor Mark Preston. So Mark, Jon Huntsman is now the only candidate threatening to stay away from Nevada. Who else?

MARK PRESTON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL EDITOR: Well, you're absolutely right, Fred. There are four other candidates that are saying that they will boycott the Nevada caucuses. Before we get to those we should be clear, what Jon Huntsman is doing is this is a political calculation on his part. He really had no chance of winning the Nevada caucuses. He's going to put all his chips on the line and try to do that in New Hampshire. He's trying to woo the voters in New Hampshire. But there are other candidates, as you said, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Santorum. Four candidates who all have said they will boycott the Nevada caucuses because the Nevada caucuses are up bumping up against when New Hampshire wants to hold their primary contest. In addition to that, though, Fred.

WHITFIELD: I'm sorry. Go ahead.

PRESTON: Well, I'm just going to say, in addition to that, though, the question is, what is the Nevada Republican party doing out here? And I'll tell you what, they're staying by their guns, they're sticking by them. Amy Tarkanian just said earlier today on CNN about their decision to keep the caucuses on the date of January 14th.

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AMY TARKANIAN, NEVADA GOP CHAIRWOMAN: We're going to stick to our date. Our state is working really hard on finding a locations. And we worked together with the states making sure we coordinated and communicated. The New Hampshire GOP has been fantastic, very supportive, it's the secretary of state who has the end say in the situation.

But we reached out to him and he did not return our calls. We did have the Governor (INAUDIBLE) reach out to him as well and during that time he still did not have a date picked. And he said he was going to wait on us. We did exactly that, picked a date.

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PRESTON: And there you have, Amy Tarkanian, the Nevada Republican party chairman talking about (INAUDIBLE), the secretary of state of New Hampshire who has threatened to perhaps hold his primary now in December, Fred, if you can believe that.

WHITFIELD: Wow, that is hard to believe. I don't know if some of these candidates are - they're concerned about these caucuses and primaries being moved up if they're wondering whether that will kind of deviate in their finances if they can campaign heavily enough for some of these locations earlier than they originally expected. Is that part of the problem?

PRESTON: It certainly is a problem. Look, we're also talking about the holiday season and new year's. You know, if December is the date that New Hampshire holds its primary, it will throw the whole political calendar on its head. But even if New Hampshire does hold its primary on January 10th as a lot of people are hoping it does so, it still will have Iowa hold the first in the nation nominating contest. Their caucus is on January 3rd.

What does that mean? It means there's really no Christmas for these candidates and it means that the voters out in Iowa and New Hampshire perhaps even Nevada are going to have to see these candidates at a time when they would probably prefer spending that time with their families. Fred.

WHITFIELD: OK. Mark Preston, we will see how it all unfolds, won't we? Be sure to tune in first this Tuesday for the CNN western Republican presidential debate that's coming up Tuesday night, 8:00 Eastern time from Las Vegas, CNN's Anderson Cooper will be the moderator.

All right. How about this question? Is your relationship with your doctor on the rocks? Tips on when and how to break up with your doctor. Next.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Top stories are straight ahead, including an explosive escalation in the Occupy Wall Street protests. They've gone global now. And in one international city, it's turned violent. More on where and what triggered it in about 20 minutes.

But first, we all know that breaking up is hard to do. Even when it comes to your relationship with your doctor. So when should you consider changing doctors? That's a subject of our weekly look at how to get and stay healthy. Dr. Bill Lloyd, our healthy living expert joining us right now from San Francisco. Good to see you. We would never break up, not here. So, doctor, what are some reasons that patients say, "You know what? I don't know if this is a good relationship, I want out."

DR. BILL LLOYD, HEALTH LIVING EXPERT: Well, Fredericka, the relationship between patient and doctor is somewhere between the relationship you have with your hairdresser and your barber and a marriage. So good haircuts and bad, sickness and health, but nobody said until death do you part. And we should be able to feel free to change our health care providers. And these are some of the most common reasons why people want out.

First involves poor communications, particularly at the end of the doctor. You know, doctors typically will not let a patient talk more than 13 seconds before they interrupt. Patients often have problems with the staff in the clinic. The doctor may not be a problem, but the people working in the clinic may make it miserable for them. Doctors may be too busy, takes too long to get an appointment. When you get in the clinic you wait too long to see the doctor for what? Four minutes? Some people get aggravated by that. There can be a personality conflict. The doctor may, in fact, be a know it all. And you know how irritating know it alls are to those of us who really do, Fredericka.

And then finally, surprisingly, patients want to break up because of quality of care. But that is so low on the list. Most of the time if they like their doctor, they're going to forgive their doctor if there's been a mistake.

WHITFIELD: OK. Then say you do want to break up. How do you do that? Because I think a lot of folks feel maybe a little intimidated by their doctor. They feel like doctors know best but I want out but I'm just not sure how to do it, so how do you go about doing that?

LLOYD: Excellent point, you know, 20 years ago it was a big deal if you left your doctor. But with managed care now and portable medicine, people are changing for all kinds of reasons. And sometimes the doctors don't even know where their patients went. If you think you want to leave your doctor, though, give it 24 hours, talk to some family members. You may find out it's one of those reasons on the list we just talked about that really doesn't have anything to do with the doctor.

And if by communicating with the doctor what the real problem is, whether it's parking or appointments or whatever, there may be a fixable problem. For example, if you have your appointment every Thursday afternoon, you may find out Tuesdays are wide open and not a problem at all. So you have to take some responsibility in that part too. Before you pull the pin, talk to the doctor and see if there are any fixable problems.

WHITFIELD: And then I guess, aren't there usually warning signs? Maybe you know it bubbles up over time. What are some of those warning signs that you need to pay attention and kind of act on those instincts?

LLOYD: Yes, well, if there's trouble with access, you can't get returns to phone calls, even having trouble getting an appointment. You might think about going elsewhere. Any suspicions about distrust. Why is he recommending surgery all the time? I don't think I need surgery. If you can't get a clean answer, go ask the questions with somebody else. Any time you feel ignored, like your statements don't mean anything or the doctor's very dismissive of your ideas, that's no partnership.

Good health requires a partnership between the patient and the physician and a doctor who fails to explain anything regarding any therapy, risks, benefits, and alternatives. If you're not getting the information you need, you can't make good health care decisions.

WHITFIELD: And is there a way to kind of simplify the transition? Maybe you're in the middle of treatment or you know, changing medications, et cetera. But you don't want to put your life in jeopardy, your health in jeopardy while you're transitioning?

LLOYD: Well, you're right, and that can really weigh on you. I would say the first thing you want to do if you're really going to make the change is find the new doctor first. Make sure there's one that's as good as the doctor you're seeing right now. You don't want to cut the cord if you don't have a good doctor. Check with your insurance company to make sure that new provider is going to be eligible for you. Make sure you take care of the arrangements for transferring of records. You need to sign a patient release. You can do that just by going into the clinic office any day. You don't even need to see the doctor for doing that.

But before you finally walk out, though, you probably should have a conversation with the doctor. Don't send them a text. Have a conversation with the doctor. Explain what you feel the issues are and why you feel the need to move on. And don't feel guilty.

WHITFIELD: All right. Dr. Bill Lloyd, always great advice, thanks so much.

LLOYD: We'll talk again soon.

WHITFIELD: All right, thank you.

All right. Still to come, hip hop's business is booming, but will its economic success lead to its artistic down fall?

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WHITFIELD: The son of U.S.-born militant cleric Anwar Al-Alwalki is dead. A security official says he was killed in a series of drone attacks in Yemen last night. Two weeks ago, al-Awlaki himself, a key member of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was killed in a drone strike.

A meaningless and absurd accusation, that's what Iran's supreme leader calls America's claim that his country plotted to assassinate a Saudi diplomat in Washington. Ayatollah Ali Khomeini made the comments today in a speech broadcast on state television. He says the U.S. wants to isolate Iran from the rest of the world. But U.S. authorities insist the allegations are true. They point fingers at the Quds force, an elite special ops group that reports to Khomeini.

Earlier I spoke with CNN senior state department producer Elise Labott.

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WHITFIELD: Elise, so far, is there anyone within the Iranian government that's being implicated?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT PRODUCER: Not yet. Basically what the administration is doing is implicating senior levels of the Quds force, senior level of this force that's part of the IRGC. But not really saying right now who in the Iranian government knew about the plot.

WHITFIELD: Is it possible that this plot could be planned and not involve or without the knowledge of Ahmadinejad or Khomeini.

LABOTT: Well, some officials are saying yes, it is possible. I mean, basically the Obama administration over the last year has been pointing the finger at this Quds force and the IRGC as really running a lot of the Iranian economy, Iranian military. I mean, as you know there are many power centers in Iran. So basically what analysts are saying too is this really doesn't fit the Iranian government's profile.

Iran is very strong in the region right now. Economically, very powerful. It really hasn't been hurt that much from the Arab spring. And it doesn't seem as if the Iranian government, President Ahmadinejad, or the supreme leader would have any reason. So it's very possible that these are freelancers here.

WHITFIELD: There are some analysts who say this doesn't even fit Quds force, that usually they do things with precision and this exemplifies a sloppier operation and that it wouldn't involve a Muslim extremist is odd that it would instead involve a Mexican cartel. LABOTT: That's very true, Fred. I mean, the Quds force is one of the most organized, precise military arms of the Iranian military and the IRGC. And it just doesn't fit the profile. A lot of times they use proxies like Hezbollah, like Hamas, like (INAUDIBLE) Islamic jihad and it just doesn't fit the profile of the Quds force.

WHITFIELD: OK. So what's next for the U.S.?

LABOTT: Well, already the United States is making its case to the international community, the State Department has brought in all of the diplomatic core to brief them, calling members of the U.N. security council, and they're already moving ahead talking to committees, senate banking committee about possible sanctions. They've sanctioned several individuals including some of those involved in the plot.

So they're moving ahead. Whether they're going to take some dramatic action against the Iranian government, unclear, because we don't know necessarily who was responsible, but certainly they're going after the Quds force and the IRGC.

WHITFIELD: All right. Elise Labott, thanks so much.

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WHITFIELD: The U.S. is accusing a Texas used car salesman of ordering the hit on the Saudi ambassador. He is an Iranian-American who is expected to plead not guilty at a formal hearing later on this month.

Legal trouble for an American Catholic bishop. We'll look at why he's under indictment and what it could mean for the Catholic Church priest abuse scandal.

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WHITFIELD: A look at our top stories right now.

The demonstrations against big banks, Wall Street profits and corporate greed exploded from a New York state protest with a show of global solidarity today. Protesters turned out in 82 countries. In Rome, a peaceful rally turned violent. Italian police say anarchists infiltrated the protests and began torching cars and a building. Dozens have been arrested. Protests elsewhere have been mostly peaceful.

And at a march in Washington today, Reverend Al Sharpton echoed some of the sentiment witnessed in the Occupy Wall Street movement. He called for congress and the White House to get America working again.

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SHARPTON: It's time for us to Occupy Wall Street, occupy Washington, occupy Alabama! We come to take our country back to the people!

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WHITFIELD: Sharpton backed the president's jobs bill and is urging Congress to pass it.

American troops are heading to central Africa to help hunt down the leader of a notorious rebel group blamed for thousands of rapes and murders. The Pentagon says the troops will be armed but only to defend themselves.

One of Warren Jeffs' wives ran away from the religious group's compound and being protected at a shelter. Police are threatening - treating her rather as an abuse victim. Warren Jeffs once led a Mormon breakaway church that preaches polygamy. He is doing life in prison for sex crimes. Jeffs claims to have 78 wives.

Alright, new developments now in the Catholic Church priest abuse scandal. An American bishop has been indicted for failing to tell police about suspected child abuse. This case centers around Robert Finn, the bishop in the Kansas City Saint Joseph Diocese.

Jim Spellman is in Kansas City digging into this investigation. What more can you tell us, Jim?

JIM SPELLMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Fredericka. Yes, this case started last December. It's really troubling when you read the details. The Catholic priest here at Saint Patrick, a church in Kansas City here, was having trouble with his computer and the I.T. guy from the church came across inappropriate images of a little girl, reported that to the church. But instead of calling police immediately, the church moved him to another facility on the outskirts of the town.

And for five months, he continued to do this, according to these allegations indicted, continued to take inappropriate photos of young children, continued to do this even taking inappropriate photos of a girl on Easter Sunday. It wasn't until May of this year, five months later they finally reported to police. That's at the center of the allegations, the delay by the bishop to do it. It is really significant being the first American bishop to face charges around any sex scandals. For victims of priest abuse, this is a huge victory for them. They've long wanted to see somebody in the upper levels of the church face some sort of legal charges in so many of these cases. I spoke to a man in an unrelated case who says it's about time. Take a listen.

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SPELLMAN: Do you think these new charges against the bishop might start to create real transformative change with the church?

JON DAVID COUZENS, SURVIVOR OF ABUSE: I hope that it does. And this is why. Because it's just proving that there's no priest, bishop, cardinal, the Pope, no one should be above the law. They're not above the law. But it's going to take the grand jury, other victims to speak out, principals to report it, teachers, deacons, whoever you are to report it and join forces and to prove that no one is above the law and that things can be done to protect these children.

(END VIDEO CLIP) SPELLMAN: But advocates for these victims say that they are really concerned the church still doesn't get it. They performed their own act or action report on this case and they came out with recommendations, including this really convoluted flow chart on what church officials should do if they get a report and allegation of inappropriate actions by a priest. Advocates say it should be really simple. At the first sign, they should just call the police and let the police investigate it. They're worried there's still that reluctance to do that really simple thing that they say a lot of normal people in any other profession and any other environment would do without thinking twice, Fredericka.

WHITFIELD: Alright, Jim Spellman thanks so much for that from Kansas City.

So the arch diocese of Kansas City did issue a response. I want to read that to you quoting "Bishop Finn denies any wrong doing and has cooperated at all stages of the law enforcement, the grand jury, the prosecutor's office, and the graves commission. We will continue our efforts to resolve this matter."

I want to bring in our legal guy, Avery Friedman. We're so lucky to have him in the studio today with us to talk more about what Bishop Finn is facing how this might, I guess, lead to a cascading of potential charges or new direction in investigations as it pertains to catholic churches.

AVERY FRIEDMAN, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: Well, this is a first. We've never seen this in American jury credential history. The fact that a bishop, Fredericka, a bishop, the head of the diocese for that large area has been indicted, tells us this is a reach we've never seen before. Usually as you know they'll go after the priests that are engaged in this misbehavior. But because of the facts here, and because the bishop, like a lawyer, like a social worker, like a doctor is a mandatory reporter. And the obligation is immediate that is something they have alleged he has not done and that's why he was indicted.

WHITFIELD: And not necessarily that he is alleged to have carried out a child abuse, but instead to have hidden or made attempts that are perceived as hiding the facts, hiding that a crime may have committed.

FRIEDMAN: That's going to go to the motive that the county is obligated, Jackson county is obligated to show that Bishop Finn did this. But beyond that, Fredericka, it actually reaches more deeply. For years, victim abuse - victims of abuse have said, you know, it goes all the way up. So this is the first of its type. Whether the cascade as you called it occurs remains to be seen, but you wouldn't be surprised to see it.

WHITFIELD: So, I wonder now how it might potentially influence other investigations. That haven't quite reached to this point and what investigators may learn as to how Kansas City is handling this and what they may take back to their jurisdictions and then try to apply.

FRIEDMAN: You know, this sort of reminds me of you know what they did with Al Capone. Al Capone committed all these crimes, but they didn't catch him on crimes, they caught him on tax evasion. Exactly. There's no evidence that Bishop Finn directly engaged in abuse, but because he is responsible, because it was brought to his attention, his obligation was to report it immediately. And because the government is claiming he didn't do that even though the diocese said he did, that's where he's in trouble. We'll have to see if other diocese will be targets.

WHITFIELD: Do you think this is sending reverberations in a very big way?

FRIEDMAN: Oh, my goodness. If I'm a bishop of a major diocese, and I take a look at what happened in Saint Joseph (ph) Kansas City, I'm going to be paying more attention. If an issue comes to my attention, I'm reporting it immediately to law enforcement. That's what our obligation is, that's what should've been done here.

WHITFIELD: What about the timing of this? We're talking about some five months or so after the fact. Does it take that long in which to investigate? Might that be part of the circumstances here? Connecting the dots? What could potentially happen between that gap of discovery and indictment?

FRIEDMAN: Yes, I think that's reasonably stated way too long. When it comes to your retention, you're not obligated to conduct a full investigation. Your obligation is to report it to law enforcement. That's where the government is hanging its case, its hat against the case against Bishop Finn.

WHITFIELD: Well, it's a fascinating case.

FRIEDMAN: It sure is.

WHITFIELD: Alright, Avery, always good to see you. Even better in person.

FRIEDMAN: Absolutely Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: We usually always see Avery on Saturdays. He's dedicated. He is always one to count on, he and Richard, every Saturday. We've got the bonus of having you in person.

FRIEDMAN: It's my pleasure.

WHITFIELD: Alright, thanks so much, Avery.

FRIEDMAN: Sure.

WHITFIELD: Alright, still to come, hip-hop, it's grown to a multi- billion dollar industry in the last decade. But could the economic success come with a price? That's coming up next.

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WHITFIELD: OK. The world's largest retailer is trying to grab more holiday sales and make it easier for you. Wal-Mart is bringing back layaway beginning Monday. They haven't offered it since 2006. But there are limits, layaway will be available only on toys and electronics and a 10 percent down payment is required. Wal-Mart lay with program will last only through December 16th.

When hip hop started in the late 1970s, it was a cultural movement. Through music, young adults in New York were exposing problems in their neighborhood like drug abuse, racism, and gang violence. At the time, corporate America ignored it. But a lot has changed since then. Here's CNN's Soledad O'Brien.

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SOLEDA O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hip hop has changed the nation. And in this new book "Tanning of America," Steve Stoute says he knows how it happened.

What does "the Tanning of America" mean?

STEVE STOUTE, AUTHOR, TRANSLATION ADVERTISING: It's where the next generation of kids specifically sees the world in no longer through color or ethnicity. They see the world through shared values.

O'BRIEN: Stoute used his connections as a former record executive to connect big business with urban-oriented market campaigns. With jay-z for Reebok and he is the man behind Justin Timberlake's popular slogan for McDonald's.

STOUTE: Always look that the artist and the music is the Trojan horse for the culture. And I felt like I could find authentic ways for the brand to tap into the culture that hip hop has created.

O'BRIEN: The hip hop was something that started from the streets. Writer Nelson George says the partnership with big business is watering down the art form.

NELSON GEORGE, AUTHOR: But what gets on the radio in most of America is not very content driven. It's more an inducement to dance then leading to inducement to buy a particular brand of alcohol or clothing or car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Enough for everyone.

O'BRIEN: Forbes music editor, Zack Greenburg says many hip hop artists make more on endorsements than their recorded music.

STOUTE: Again, we're speaking about the music. Most of it is just silly. I think that hip hop created a culture, and I think that culture was meant to be shared.

O'BRIEN: You say that you can draw direct line between hip hop and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

STOUTE: That younger voter was open-minded to an African-American president as a result of the cultural sharing that we're discussing. And I believe that hip hop was a main driver of that cultural sharing. And if using corporations helps spread that message, then that's what it takes.

O'BRIEN: Reporting for "in America," Soledad O'Brien, CNN, New York.

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WHITFIELD: Alright, look for the new "Promise Land" silicon valley black in America special hosted by CNN's Soledad O'Brien Sunday night, November 13th at 8:00 Eastern time.

Well, the economy may be crippled, but one industry is growing like mad, details coming up next.

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WHITFIELD: Keeping an eye on all the latest headlines at the CNNpolitics.com desk. And here's what's crossing right now.

Nevada Republicans today say they will not move their January 14th caucus date. Nevada is locked in a political scheduling fight with New Hampshire, the state that for decades has held the first in the nation primary. New Hampshire laws requires and holds its primary at least a week before any similar events.

Newt Gingrich's presidential bid has hit a bit of a budget problem. Gingrich's campaign is now more than $1 million in debt. The GOP candidate rose over $800,000 in the third quarter and spent nearly all of it.

And a new glitch in the Obama administration's health care plan, citing cost concerns the administration said Friday it has halted a long-term care insurance program that was part of the massive health care law passed in 2010. You see the president right here signing that bill at the time. Officials had concerns about whether it could sustain itself.

And for the latest political news, you know exactly where to go, CNNpolitics.com.

Alright, despite the lousy economy, there's one business that's really growing, hair salons. While most Americans seem to be cutting back on expenses, your hair it seems is not one of them. Athena Jones gives us a look at the thriving hair industry.

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ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Here in Fabulooks (ph), a natural hair salon in suburban, Maryland, business is booming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see I didn't do that there.

JONES: (Inaudible), the owner says she didn't feel the effects of the recession and hasn't seen a drop in her clientele during the slow economic recovery.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every year, business is better and better. This is the business to be in. It's consistent and it's growing.

JONES: In fact, she had to move to a larger space two years ago to accommodate the growing number of stylists looking to rent a booth here.

Despite the sluggish economy, barbershops and hair salons like this one are growing nationwide, as customer place a high priority on looking put together.

JANICE WASHINGTON, CUSTOMER: It's a necessity because I do want to keep my hair looking like its well maintained.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't buy new shoes anymore. I do get my hair done.

JONES: Census data show the number of barbershops in Maryland rose nearly 11 percent between 2007 and 2009. And the number of beauty salons jumped more than 17 percent. Nationwide, there were 18.6 percent more barbershops and 14.4 percent more beauty salons in 2009 than in 2007.

And in one sunny of the effect the recession has had even on educated workers, seven of the nine stylists here in Fabulooks (ph) have college degrees and spent years working in other fields.

Tarsa Scott was a real estate agent before the recession. When the housing market tumbled, she got a job at a foundation and decided to train as a stylist to help earn extra money. She now plans to quit her office job to style hair here full-time.

TARSA SCOTT, HAIR STYLIST: I'm an entrepreneur at heart, and so, I love having my own business.

JONES: Ninac's (ph) sister, Aisha has a master's degree in education but lost her job at a nonprofit two years ago.

AISHA BILAL, HAIR STYLIST, TRAINER: Contract kind of dried up a lot for many of us. And just couldn't sustain myself doing it anymore.

JONES: Now she helps train people who want to become stylists. It's an industry that can't be outsourced.

DEREK DAVIS, VICE PRESIDENT, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BARBER BOARDS OF AMERICA: It is normally a community-based type industry. And in every community, you have a barbershop.

JONES: Derek Davis is vice president of the national association of barber boards of America. He has a barbershop that's been in his family since 1968.

DAVIS: Beauty has always been something that the public has always wanted. Everybody wants to look good and they want to feel good.

JONES: And that's why Ninac Galao (ph) expects business at her salon to remain strong.

Athena Jones, CNN, capital heights, Maryland.

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WHITFIELD: And "Money" magazine is out with the best jobs in America. And the top job for parents, well, it's all about flexibility.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Parents looking for the perfect career might want to try physical therapy. "Money" magazine ranks this as a top job for moms because it has great flexibility and you can average about $76,000 a year.

Physical therapists say their job is rewarding, but it isn't easy to break into. Entry level candidates are now required to have a Ph.D.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Best jobs in America. A complete listing of the fastest growing careers based on the qualities that impact you most. From the editors of "Money" magazine, go to cnnMoney.com/bestjobs for more intact look of the jobs you might love. Sponsored by the Principal Financial group, it's time to dream again with the principal.

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WHITFIELD: Alright, now to this amazing story of inspiration. The name of pro-Boxer Dewey Bozella may not ring a whole lot of bells for you, but when it is announced tonight he will have a lot of supporters in his corner. Bozella is making his boxing debut tonight at the age of 52 after spending 26 years in jail for a crime he didn't commit. He describes the joy of finally getting a shot.

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DEWEY BOZELLA, BOXER AT 52: So, to take the time out to, you know, to do what he did, you know is an honor. But not only that, you know, just to take the risk, you know, with a person like me over 50 years old, you know. And I think that you know I don't want to prove anybody wrong, but as well as myself. That's what this whole thing is about. You know one-shot deal. In out, you know. And you know to be able to say that I went all out, to say I was a pro one time in my life and I'll be happy about that.

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WHITFIELD: Well, the best to him. Bozella was given the 2011 Arthur Ashe award for his courage to never give up. The president of the United States also called to wish him luck.

Alexandra Steele in the weather center now. He's got a lot of you know folks backing him there. That's an incredible story.

ALEXANDRA STEELE, METEOROLOGIST: Absolutely. And we wish him luck too, right? WHITFIELD: Absolutely.

STEELE: Well, we've seen so much rain. This hasn't been the most beautiful fall in the northeast, of course. Apple picking and pumpkin picking and actually the sun really do a lot of great things for the changing in the leaves color. And we certainly haven't seen that peak color with more rain coming down. Places like New York City last month on average you see about pouring to the rain, they had over nine inches of rain and more rain coming now.

So, here's the big picture, not only the rain in the northeast, it's also these very strong winds. So, here's a picture of the rain. You can see that here with the radar. But these are the wind gusts we're seeing 20, 30-mile-per-hour wind gusts, and unfortunately, not only today but the next couple of days the winds will be a factor.

So, in terms of the big picture, here's a look at what we've got. What we're seeing this area of low pressure, it's been quite strong. It's now moving northeast into eastern Canada. But it's this pressure gradient. The difference between this area of low pressure and actually a area of high pressure to the south that's bringing incredibly warm conditions south of this front that's creating these very windy conditions, 50-mile-per-hour wind gusts. So winds again a factor. You know even the wind pushing the water on lake superior, 40-foot waves there.

SO, really wind is a big factor. The northeast and the Midwest, we're seeing it today, we'll see it tomorrow, as well. And then they will begin to abate. But the forecast tomorrow, sunny, that's the story here in the southern tier of the country. So kind a tail of stories, polar temperature's coming in the Northern tier, very warm in the south. Flirting with some records tomorrow, Fredricka, from little rock to Atlanta's Tallahassee in the mid to upper 80s.

WHITFIELD: Thanks so much. Our last little taste of summer one more time.

STEELE: That's right.

WHITFIELD: Just in case we forgot.

STEELE: Just a little taste then we're going to lose it.

WHITFIELD: Alright, thanks so much (inaudible).

STEELE: Sure.

WHITFIELD: Alright, checking our top stories now. Worldwide protests against corporate greed, poverty and government cutbacks turned violent in Rome today. The police are blaming anarchists for infiltrating an otherwise peaceful protest. The police say the anarchist began torching cars, smashing windows, and even setting a government building on fire. We'll have more from Rome in just a minute.

Sharpton is urging Washington to get America working at a march today, he called for Congress and the White House to end the gridlock and do a better job of reducing the unemployment rate. Right now it stands at 9.1 percent. Sharpton backs the president's jobs bill and wants Congress to pass it.

Alright, thanks so much for hanging out with me today. I'm Fredericka Whitfield, the NEWSROOM continues at the top of the hour with Hala Gorani.

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