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'Occupy' Marchers to Bring Letters to Bank Executives; Shooter on the Loose in South Carolina; More Colleges Reaching $50,000 Threshold; NATO Forces Leaving Libya; Climate Change Satellite Launched; The Help Desk; Half-Naked Woman Arrested; Nancy Grace Talks Jackson Trial, Baby Lisa & Dancing; Plastic And Nature Meet

Aired October 28, 2011 - 12:00   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour, I'm Suzanne Malveaux. I want to get you up to speed.

"Occupy Wall Street" demonstrators, they're taking their message where the money is. That is the banks. Protesters plan to march on the offices of five major banks today. Now they say they're going to deliver thousands of letters to top board members of Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, Wells Fargo, Citigroup, and JPMorgan Chase.

Wall Street CEO who says he's part of the 1 percent confronts the "Occupy" protesters who say they represent the 99 percent. Demonstrators argue that the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans keeps getting richer while the other 99 percent struggle.

CEO Peter Schiff and a camera crew went to the park in New York to challenge him.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're in the one percent and we're in the 99 percent!

PETER SCHIFF, CEO, EURO PACIFIC CAPITAL: Well, wouldn't you like to get into the one percent? You don't want more money? If I offered to put you in the one percent right now, you'd turn me down?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not a matter of whether -- and I would pay my share and get rid of Bush tax cuts immediately.

SCHIFF: OK, look -- wait a minute.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Immediately!

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MALVEAUX: Investors are taking a step back after yesterday's huge rally. The Dow fell 25 points in early trading. Right now, it has fallen 14 points, but the big picture is encouraging. October now shaping up to be the best month for S&P 500 since 1974. And the Dow industrials, they're almost up 1,300 points this month.

In Tunisia, anger over the country's election turns to violence now. Supporters of the Popular Petition Party attacked an office of the party that won. Now, protesters were angry that some of their candidates who won seats were accused of violating campaign finance rules and were disqualified. Well, the big winner was the moderate Islamist party, called Al-Nahda.

Rising water, high anxiety, that is in Thailand. The next high tide could send floodwaters pouring deep into the capital, Bangkok, as you know. The outer suburbs are already flooded.

Officials are hoping that levees, other defenses are going to protect central areas of the city, but our Sara Sidner tells us the system already is being put to the test.

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SARA SIDNER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: At one point this morning after high tide came in, you could see water on nearly every single street leading in and out of Chinatown. Some of it about a foot high.

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MALVEAUX: Some college students in Maryland can already say that their ship has come in. How? OK. More than 200 students from St. Mary's College in Maryland, they are going to be living on a cruise ship because there's mold in their dorms.

The Sea Voyager is expected to stay docked the rest of the semester. Classes are canceled today so the students can get on board.

Well, the comeback Cardinals forced the World Series into a seventh game tonight to decide the championships. St. Louis stunned the Texas Rangers last night, winning 10-9. A homerun by David Freese in the 11th inning gave St. Louis the win. Earlier, he tripled in the 9th to tie the game.

Today, the Occupy protesters, they're now on the move. They plan to march through the streets of New York in the next hour. They're headed to the offices of five major banks. They want to hand deliver letters to executives at places like Bank of America and Morgan Stanley.

Well, CNN producer Sheila Steffen, she is there for us live.

Sheila, it's been said time and time again that the protesters, they don't have a hard and fast set of demands here. But taking on the banks certainly seems to be one of their big themes.

What do these letters say? And do they make any demands?

SHEILA STEFFEN, CNN PRODUCER: Yes, Suzanne. No list of demands. There's never been a list of demands, really. But this seemingly leaderless group has lots of frustration. And the letters, nearly 7,000 of them, organizers say, are from people who are facing foreclosure, eviction, student debt, extended unemployment, and they're coming together to express their feelings and deliver these letters to the banks who they hold responsible.

Now, one woman who will be reading her letter to Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is Mimi Johnson (ph) of Elmont, New York. And she's lost her job, she's facing foreclosure, and she writes, in part, "I've submitted applications for mortgage modification more than a dozen times, and I'm still waiting for a straight answer. Every night I lay awake hoping you do not take away my home before that happens." She goes on and she invites Mr. Dimon to her home neighborhood in Queens that is basically, she says, devastated by foreclosures -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Over the last couple of days, we've seen peaceful protests turn ugly. We saw Tuesday, in Oakland, protesters were throwing paint and bottles at police. The police responded with tear gas and beanbags.

Give us a sense of the mood there, where you are. Is there tension between police and demonstrators?

STEFFEN: There's no real tension at the moment, Suzanne. But a move this morning by the New York Fire Department at the park where the occupiers have been camping out now for 42 days caught them off guard.

Four generators were removed, they told me. And many of them felt like it was a tactical move rather than any real safety issue. And it's coming right before a real cold snap here.

Now, the fire department, on their part, says that gasoline and propane are a fire hazard and against the law. Street vendors who use these generators, well, they have permits.

MALVEAUX: And do we have any response from some of the banks about the letters that are going to be distributed to them, some of the messages from the occupiers, the protesters there in New York?

STEFFEN: Not at this point. And it will be interesting to se what their response will be. Some of these letters are very personal, and they would like responses to their situations. So we'll just have to see.

MALVEAUX: All right. Sheila, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

We are following a breaking news story here.

A shooter is on the loose. Six schools on lockdown. That is out of Greenville, South Carolina.

We're watching those pictures very closely. This is actually following a gun battle that took place between a police officer and a man being followed for having a license plate that didn't match his car -- his vehicle. Well, the officer was not injured. Police are now putting up roadblocks to try to stop this gunman.

Here's what's ahead "On the Rundown."

Who killed Moammar Gadhafi? And what do Libyans think should be done to that person?

Also, the cost of a year of college now at an increasing number of schools, it's often more than the average that Americans earn. We're going to break down those numbers.

Plus, victims of Bernie Madoff, they're not feeling very sympathetic towards the convicted Ponzi schemer or his family.

And drama on the dance floor. We're going to have the latest from our own Nancy Grace.

And finally, paper or plastic? Your answer to this common question is having a huge effect on the oceans.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Out here the water looks very clear, but you never know what's lying underneath.

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MALVEAUX: I want to go straight to an interview here, WYFF, a reporter interviewing the police chief. This is taking place in Greenville, South Carolina. And this is where there are six schools that are on lockdown and potentially a shooter on the loose.

Let's take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just want to point out to some of our viewers how interesting our location is. This is Malden (ph) Road. And back over here, this is the media staging area.

If you can see back at that tower back there, this is actually the Greenville Police Department's training facility. There were 30- plus officers here for a leadership training session. So, a half-mile around the block, Jeff (ph), is actually the apartment where the officer was shot at.

So, as soon as that call came out for backup from the officer, there were 30 or more officers dispatched from this training facility to begin the search for this shooter. So that was around 9:39, is what I'm hearing, Jeff (ph).

So, this all started, the shooting happened at 9:39. I want to reiterate to anyone just joining us, a Greenville police officer has not been shot. Shot at, yes, but not actually hit by one of the bullets that was fired at from the shooter.

MALVEAUX: All right. I want to go to a quick piece of sound here from the police chief actually describing the suspected gunman. Let's listen in.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's a black male in his 30s, about 180 pounds. Some distinctive qualities that she wanted to pass along to you, that he has long hair, tied back, gray pants, and a gray shirt. So that's who they're looking for.

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MALVEAUX: Again, that is the reporter. He talked to the police chief, describing how that -- the suspected shooter who is on the loose -- again, six schools that are on lockdown. This is out of Greenville, South Carolina.

That developing, breaking news story happening, and we'll get more details as they become available.

The number of colleges charging $50,000 a year for tuition is actually increasing. That's more than a lot of Americans actually make in a year.

Our Alison Kosik, she's at the New York Stock Exchange.

Alison, it's pretty unbelievable. I remember going to school. It was about $15,000. Now you've got $50,000 for tuition. How common is that?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Oh, yes, times have definitely changed, Suzanne. It is getting more and more common. It's almost like that $50,000 number is the magic number or something.

Now 123 colleges charge that $50,000 a year for tuition and fees. And this has really spiked over the past couple of years. You see in 2008, only five colleges cost that much, cost $50,000.

So guess where the sticker shock is? Who are the usual suspects?

At Columbia University, Harvard, and Yale, but not just at the Ivy Leagues. This is also a phenomenon at the liberal arts schools like New York, Vassar, Sarah Lawrence.

And guess what? It's what you said. The kicker here is that it costs -- $50,000 is more than the average worker makes in a year. So, yes, it's like you're breaking the bank just to send your kids to college -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: It's just such an overwhelming burden for a lot of folks. And we know the president announced -- he did announce some help, student loan help this week. There's some education tax credits, that kind of thing.

Do we think that that's really going to make a difference?

KOSIK: It does make a difference, because the reality is, most students, they don't pay the full sticker price to go to college. An industry study shows that 88 percent of students who go to private colleges, they get scholarships. So, if you add up that scholarship money, along with the tax benefits, they get an extra $15,000. And also, the federal government is more and more handing out grants. But the fact remains that $50,000 a year figure is one that's really tough to swallow when you see incomes remaining stagnant or even going lower these days -- Suzanne.

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MALVEAUX: All right. Thanks. Have a good weekend, Alison.

KOSIK: OK.

MALVEAUX: Bernie Madoff's victims, they're fuming over the latest round of interviews with Madoff, his wife, daughter-in-law. The victims say they feel that the public is being conned every time one of the Madoffs actually speaks.

Our Susan Candiotti sat down with some of them today.

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CYNTHIA FRIEDMAN, PONZI SCHEME VICTIM: I think anything that comes out of their mouths is self-serving and are lies.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Richard and Cynthia Friedman lost their life savings to Bernie Madoff. So did Ilene Kent's parents. So, when they heard Ruth Madoff talked about a failed suicide attempt in a new a "60 Minutes" interview --

RUTH MADOFF, WIFE OF BERNIE MADOFF: I don't know whose idea it was, but we decided to kill ourselves because it was so horrendous, what was happening. We had terrible phone calls, hate mail.

CANDIOTTI (on camera): Do you believe it?

RICHARD FRIEDMAN, PONZI SCHEME VICTIM: I don't believe it. If it's a Madoff, you cannot trust anything they say.

CANDIOTTI: Assuming that she's telling the truth about taking pills, do you feel badly about that?

ILENE KENT, PARENTS VICTIMIZED: I just can't assume it. I think anything that they say is extremely self-serving. Ruth has been quoted in the past as saying that she's very concerned about the victims and feels awful and feels terribly. Well, why reopen the wound three years later?

CANDIOTTI (voice-over): Victims scoff at Barbara Walters' description of her ABC Bernie Madoff interview. He says he's happy in prison, because he feels safe there.

BARBARA WATERS, ABC "THE VIEW": For 16 years, he has lived in fear that he was going to be found out, and now he's not in control of his life. And so he is happier there than he was on the outside. KENT: I was very much against sending him to a maximum security prison because I felt that would be revenge and not justice. But he's really just snubbing his nose. He's snubbing his nose at the system, he's snubbing his nose at us.

CANDIOTTI: Then there's Stephanie Madoff, whose husband Mark committed suicide last year, depressed over his father's crime.

STEPHANIE MADOFF, WIDOW: If I saw Bernie Madoff right now, I would tell him that I hold him fully responsible for killing my husband, and I'd spit in his face.

CANDIOTTI (on camera): So every time you hear an interview, every time you read an article involving an interview, what goes through your mind?

C. FRIEDMAN: I have a visceral reaction. I really feel sick to my stomach.

KENT: I wish we could get that kind of publicity so people understand who the victims are. They're everyday people.

CANDIOTTI: You're hearing people ask them a lot of questions. Do you have any questions that remain in your mind that you'd like to ask them?

KENT: If I knew that Bernie Madoff would actually tell the truth for a change, I would say, why, how, and who helped you?

CANDIOTTI: For victims, there are many questions they feel will never be fully answered. Prosecutors have not charged Madoff's children nor his wife. She's living in a borrowed home in south Florida.

Susan Candiotti, CNN, New York.

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MALVEAUX: President Bush called it the soft bigotry of low expectations, thinking that minority children won't do as well as others. Now some African-Americans are trying to raise the bar.

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MALVEAUX: Following a story out of Greenville, South Carolina, where six schools, two of them colleges, are on lockdown now after a shootout, a gun battle between police and a man who was pulled over in a vehicle.

I want to go directly to sound from the police chief, Terri Wilfong, to give us an update on what is taking place there.

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CHIEF TERRI WILFONG, GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA POLICE: Basically, we're searching for an individual now. We put the description out. It's going to be a black male with a gray shirt, gray pants, between the ages of 30 to 35, very long hair pulled back in a ponytail.

We had an officer involved in a shooting with that individual. Our officer is not hit. No one's hurt at this time, which we're very thankful for that.

And we're basically doing a search, trying to find the individual. We have canine on the scene, about four of them, that are tracking. We have the Greenville County Sheriff's Department helping us. We have SLED and highway patrol that's helping us. We have officers throughout the area in key locations, so that if the individual tries to get out of the area that we have secured, we'll be able to see the individual very quickly.

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MALVEAUX: An all-out effort there in Greenville, South Carolina. Six schools on lockdown as they try to search and find a gunman on the loose after a shootout with police.

So, parents want the best education for their children, right? But some say that minorities are suffering because educators have low expectations of their kids.

Well, in this week's "What Matters" segment, we look at why this is a problem that is facing the African-American community.

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SHAWNA ROACHFORD, MOTHER: You read the first page and then Nate (ph) reads the next.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): Eric and Shawna Roachford want to give their children a bright future.

ROACHFORD: You can go anywhere with knowledge, so for us, that was very important, that the school had high standards and that the teachers were excellent.

MALVEAUX: But the schools in their area did not meet their expectations. So the Roachfords looked for other options.

ROACHFORD: I don't care if it's a traditional public school, a charter school, a private school, home school. Whatever it takes to educate our children, because they are our future, that's what matters.

MALVEAUX: But not every parent has the luxury of choosing what school their child will attend. And not every school district has high standards for their students.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: What grade are we in?

STUDENTS: Second! BUSH: Fantastic.

MALVEAUX: President Bush referred to it as the "soft bigotry of low expectations."

BUSH: I firmly believe if you have low expectations, you'll achieve them.

MALVEAUX: But the problem still exists today.

RUSSLYNN ALI, U.S. DEPT. OF EDUCATION: The achievement gap data show us that a huge problem exists.

MALVEAUX: Russlynn Ali is with the Obama administration's Department of Education.

ALI: President Bush called it the "soft bigotry of low expectations." The truth is, it's not so soft.

If we don't believe that students can learn at the highest levels, we don't teach them to the highest levels. And I have been stumped that I've talked to so many African-American teachers that often have lower expectations for their students than some of their white peers do.

STEVE PERRY, PRINCIPAL, CAPITAL PREP: I cannot hear you.

MALVEAUX: CNN education contributor Steve Perry is the principal of Capital Prep in Hartford, Connecticut. Perry believes that tough love and discipline will help a child succeed.

PERRY: It will be all boys. There's nothing that anyone can say about me that would ever question how much I love my kids and how willing I am to go to war for them, even if it means going to war against them.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Tell me what's been going on at Dodd (ph) School?

MALVEAUX: Admittedly, the Obama administration's approach is about holding teachers accountable.

(on camera): Is that a new approach from this administration, looking at it in that way?

ALI: I wouldn't call it new. We are devoting more attention, I think, than ever before to the opportunity gap, because research is clear that if you don't have a strong teacher in the front of your classroom, chances are you're not going to learn as much as your peers do.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): The Roachfords are raising the bar, too, hoping that screening teachers and schools will pay off in the end.

ROACHFORD: Yes, he can't go into the building. Why?

For me, that's our future. And we have to do whatever it takes to make sure that they get the proper education.

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MALVEAUX: Are the global Occupy movements inspired by the Arab Spring? We're going to take a look at the similarities, as well as the differences. Our own Ben Wedeman, he's been reporting from across the Arab world and also in New York. He's going to be here live in the studio.

Occupy Wall Street is on "TIME" magazine's top ten list of American protest movements. So, what are the other big ones?

The Civil Rights Movements in the '60s. The Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. and more than 200,000 people marched on Washington in 1963 to demand equal rights for minorities.

The Labor Movement formed unions and helped create workplace safety laws.

What do you think is the oldest American protest movement? That answer in just a minute.

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MALVEAUX: So, Moammar Gadhafi's fugitive son, Saif Gadhafi, he is now in indirect talks with the International Criminal Court. He is wanted for crimes against humanity. He wants to surrender to the ICC.

Well, meanwhile, in Libya, the question for the new government is, who killed Gadhafi, and what should be done to the killer?

Our Dan Rivers reports from Tripoli.

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DAN RIVERS, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Ever since these disturbing images emerged on the day Gadhafi was killed, questions have loomed about exactly what happened. Circumstantial evidence has shown that Moammar Gadhafi was not, in fact, killed in the crossfire of a gun battle, as the NTC claims, especially since this video surfaced of a young man claiming to have shot Gadhafi in the head, with another insisting he witnessed the murder.

Now, amid growing international pressure, the transitional government has said it will prosecute the man responsible if it can prove his guilt.

(on camera): What's going to happen to that young man?

AHMED BANI, NTC MILITARY COUNCIL: We will ask him. There's an investigation. Mr. Badrili (ph) said there's an investigation.

If we find this story is true, so the NTC is going to take an action against him. There's an investigation. We would like to know who and why and how?

RIVERS: But in the cafes of Misrata, there seems little sympathy with putting Gadhafi's killer on trial.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, no. I don't think he should be put on trial.

We asked -- in this revolution, we asked Gadhafi to be -- we hoped that we catch him alive, but if he's dead, that's OK. That man killed hundreds of people in this area, and we're relieved that he's dead.

That's all. And the man who killed him, they should let him free or something. I don't care about him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Gadhafi is a criminal, a big criminal and terrorist. So why did he do this to Libyans like us? Even me, if I have a shot to do this, I will kill him.

RIVERS: You would do it?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would do it. Absolutely. I would do it.

RIVERS: So for the young man that killed him, what do you think should happen to him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing.

RIVERS: Nothing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing. I'm glad Gadhafi's dead. Everybody's glad.

RIVERS (on camera): And that's the problem. The transitional government is under a lot of international pressure to properly investigate Gadhafi's death. But domestically, there's very little appetite to put a Libyan on trial for killing the man who so terrorized this country.

Dan Rivers, CNN, Tripoli.

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MALVEAUX: Well, it looks like mission accomplished for NATO forces in Libya. Their military operations are going to end on Monday.

Our Ben Wedeman, he's back in the United States after incredible reporting on the civil war.

Ben, good to see you in person. Glad you're safe, as well. You do an excellent job.

The U.N. Security Council voted unanimously that they no longer were going to authorize this military action inside of Libya. Is this the right time? Is it a good idea? Are the Libyans ready? BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the fact of the matter is that the NATO air cover was for what? Was for going after Libyan forces that were threatening the civilian population.

MALVEAUX: Sure.

WEDEMAN: The Libyan army of Moammar Gadhafi is gone. And he really doesn't -- there's not much in the way of targets that anybody could hit. So I think that there's not a presence on the ground there. I don't think it's going to make much difference.

MALVEAUX: Ben, what do you think is going to be the greatest challenge for the Libyans going forward?

WEDEMAN: Establishing law and order and creating a government, whether it's democratic or otherwise. What we've seen is this was a revolt that was begun by civilians, lawyers and human rights activists. But as it went from being a civil disobedience campaign to an open war, the men with the guns took over. And it may be very difficult to convince them that politics does not involve weapons.

MALVEAUX: What do you make of this report that Saif Gadhafi has actually -- in some sort of talks with the international criminal court. Is that a good indication of all of Gadhafi's supporters, the loyalists and family members are now out of power and can't make any more mischief?

WEDEMAN: Well, I think that the family itself out of the picture, yes. I think there's no question about it. But you have to keep in mind that there have been excesses by the -- what we used to call the rebels in places like Sirte and other parts of the country. In Tripoli as well. And that there may grow an opposition movement, an armed opposition movement, that isn't necessarily loyal to Gadhafi but feels that they're getting a raw deal from the new regime there. And I think that's the real threat in Libya.

MALVEAUX: Now, bringing it a little bit closer to home. There's some people who actually are saying that this Arab spring is really an inspiration for what we're seeing across the city's Occupy Wall Street movements. I want to roll a little piece of tape here and get our viewers to see this.

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WEDEMAN: In terms of scale, there really isn't any comparison. Hundreds of thousands of people crammed into Tahrir Square for 18 days bringing down the regime of Hosni Mubarak. Here in New York, all you have to do is go one block up and you wouldn't know anything is going on.

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MALVEAUX: Who is that handsome guy? I don't know. But you make a point here. There are some stark differences, some similarities. How do you compare this having covered what we saw in Libya and Egypt and what we're seeing in the country now?

WEDEMAN: Well, you know, in the case of Egypt, we have to keep in mind that the revolution that began on the 25th of January there didn't come out of a vacuum. The activists there worked for years and years, organizing, making contact, not necessarily preparing for a revolution that would lead in 18 days to the overthrow of a regime that was in power for 30 years. But they really did their homework.

My impression of Occupy Wall Street is, there are many reasons why Americans should be unhappy with the political system, with the financial system, but they haven't done their homework. In terms of really making the connections with the labor movement, with student groups. It really does look like it's been thrown up pretty quickly. And already you're seeing around the fringes of Zuccotti Park, all sorts of basically lunatics who realize that there's a lot of attention there and have come to sort of get a piece of the action.

But I think, as one Egyptian activist who I met there, he said that this is definitely the beginning, but they've got a long way to go.

MALVEAUX: A long way to go. All right, Ben Wedeman, good to see you. Thank you.

A new eye in the sky could soon help answer some of the questions about climate change. We're going to tell you about NASA's new satellite that will study the earth's atmosphere, oceans, and ice.

And in our atmosphere, of course, flying can be a real hassle. You probably had a flight delayed at a busy airport. Some airports, however, as we know, are worse than others. So where do you think your flight would most likely be delayed? We're going to take a look at four, number four, and number five. We're going to show you the three airports with the most delays in just a moment.

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MALVEAUX: All right. So we showed you number four and number five. So what are the three worst airports in the country when it comes to flight delays? At number three, San Francisco International Airport. In the second spot, Baltimore/Washington International, BWI. And the airport with the most delays, Chicago Midway. Not a surprise on any of these.

Well, a new NASA satellite heading into orbit high above the earth that's going to give NASA a better idea of actually what's going on with the weather.

Chad Myers, what's going on with the new satellite? What does it do?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It is so much -- it's like taking your old black and white TV that you had in your room when you were a kid and replacing it with a 1080p high-definition monitor. It's just amazing. The resolution that this picture will come -- from this image will come from space now will be so unbelievable. It took off this morning from Vandenberg, out in California. It was a great launch. Everything's good. It's a go right now, 512 miles up in space. When they finally get it all kind of unveiled, this is what it's going to look like.

There are five. You said there was a new eye in the sky. In fact, with this one, they kind of saved some money. They put five eyes in the sky. Five different sensors, five different lenses looking down at the surface of the earth. Looking for different things. Looking for ozone. Looking for maybe a lack of ice. Looking for all kinds of other things that could possibly go good or go wrong with the climate or with the weather.

The visible, obviously, they want to take pictures almost to make it look like it's a visible picture and then cross track an infrared and even some radiant energy. They want to be able to know whether the earth is actually getting warmer or is it getting colder.

And for some of you in the northeast, it will appear to be getting colder this weekend because a low pressure system, almost a nor'easter, will be heading up the East Coast. So I don't know if this satellite will be up and running by then, but for you in the Northeast. It's a low pressure here in Memphis. Makes some rain in Atlanta today. But that white, yes, there it is.

MALVEAUX: Wow.

MYERS: When I was a kid in Buffalo, we always had to put our costumes on with big coats on top. You could never tell what we were sludging (ph) through snow. This is like what it was when we were kids.

MALVEAUX: So going to be a lot of trick-or-treaters out there just all bundled up, huh?

MYERS: Trudging through snow.

MALVEAUX: Oh, wow. OK.

MYERS: Yes, maybe it will be a trick.

MALVEAUX: Thanks, Chad.

MYERS: You're welcome.

MALVEAUX: Well, the end of a high-speed chase usually comes with, right, a crash, police officers wrestling a suspect to the ground. But in Ohio, this suspect surrendered completely differently.

But first, free money advice from the CNN "Help Desk."

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POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM: It's time now for "The Help Desk," where we get answers to your financial questions. Joining me this hour, Lynnette Khalfani-Cox, the founder of the financial advice blog askthemoneycoach.com, and David Novick. He's a certified financial planner and an adjunct professor at NYU.

Thank you for being here, both. I appreciate it.

Lynette, your question today comes from Gina in Ohio. Gina has 28 credit cards, 18 with no balance, and she's asking if her credit score's going to be affected if she closes the account. I think first things first, you never want to open up 28 credit cards, right?

LYNNETTE KHALFANI-COX, FOUNDER, ASKTHEMONEYCOACH.COM: No, absolutely. Obviously that can lead to unmanageable debt. A problem I knew about from a decade ago. But, frankly, typically I tell people not to close out accounts. If they have three or four accounts because it can mess up something called your credit utilization ratio. The amount of debt that you've charged versus to your available credit lines.

In her case, she has over two dozen credit cards, so it's probably not going to impact her too much to go ahead and close out some of those cards, reduce the temptation to spend on them, and also, frankly, to possibly avoid any annual fees she might be getting charged for the use of those cards.

HARLOW: Sure.

David, you question comes from William in New York. William writes that his unmarried partner and he are going to relocate. They're going to move to California. And his partner currently receives unemployment benefits in New York. The question is, will his partner be able to continue to receive those benefits in California until he's employed?

DAVID NOVICK, CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER, PROMETHEUS CAPITAL MANAGEMENT: He would still be able to receive benefits in California. He will need to register and check in with the unemployment office in California. Different states have different rules. So the benefit may be different. And there may be a delay in getting him up and running again as far as benefits. So he should be prepared to have an interruption in his benefits.

HARLOW: Sure.

NOVICK: Additionally, if he's going to be traveling to California, you have to be available and ready and willing to work. So during that time that he's transporting himself to California, he may not be eligible for benefit during that time period.

HARLOW: Right. Sure. You have to prove you're looking for work.

NOVICK: Yes.

HARLOW: Pretty much all the time.

NOVICK: Yes.

HARLOW: All right, thank you guys very much.

If you've got a question you want answered, send us an e-mail any time to cnnhelpdesk@cnn.com.

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MALVEAUX: So running from the police usually means you're trying to keep something hidden, right? But a driver in Ohio made sure the cops knew she had nothing to hide. CNN's Jeannie Moos has more.

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JEANNIE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Please step out of the car, miss. Oops, this miss was missing most of her clothes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He clocked the vehicle going 110 miles an hour.

JEANNIE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Twenty-eight-year- old Erin Holdsworth of Hiram, Ohio, may have been half naked, but she was allegedly going full speed, as fast as 128 before stop sticks thrown on the road disabled her tires.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Step out of the vehicle! Step out of the vehicle!

MOOS: Oh, she stepped out all right. Stepped out wearing a white thong and some sort of see through fish netty thing. She also sports lots of tattoos, which we noticed when she literally kicked up a ruckus in the backseat of the cruiser. Dash cam video of near naked drivers is pretty rare, though we did find a naked motorcycle rider pulled over for drunken driving in Florida.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I asked him what happened to his clothing and he said he lost it.

MOOS: We wanted to ask Erin Holdsworth what happened to her clothing, but when we got someone we think was her on the phone, she told us to call her lawyer and we haven't heard back from her. A seven mile, high speed chase with a half-naked driver even landed her on automotive blogs. The bad news for Holdsworth is she's been charged with driving while impaired, speeding, reckless driving, et cetera. The only good news is, that admirers seem smitten with the racy speed demon. "Was she charged with theft as well? Because she's stolen my heart." "Were you convicted? Because you got 'fine' written all over you."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In 26 years in working in Brainbridge Township as a police officer, I don't ever recall having a subject in such a state of undress.

MOOS: Early reports indicated she was wearing high heels, but that was a product of wishful thinking because those are clearly sneakers. At least she didn't get charged with DWU, driving while undressed.

Jeannie Moos, CNN, New York. (END VIDEOTAPE)

MALVEAUX: Nancy Grace is with us next to talk about the Michael Jackson doctor trial and her latest moves on "Dancing With the Stars."

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MALVEAUX: Well, you've seen her moves on "Dancing With the Stars," but HLN host Nancy Grace has got a lot to say about a lot of court cases and trials. Michael Jackson's doctor, Conrad Murray, being one of them. Well, Nancy Grace, she's joining us now from L.A.

So, Nancy, before we get to your dancing skills, because I, you know, I love to ask about all that stuff, let's talk a little bit about the court cases you've been following.

NANCY GRACE, HOST, HLN'S "NANCY GRACE": OK.

MALVEAUX: First of all, Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson's doctor. Which way do we think this is working for him? Has the defense been doing a good job at trying to pin the death of Michael Jackson on Jackson himself or the doctor?

GRACE: Well, they've been trying very hard to do just that, to make it look as if Michael Jackson self-administered a fatal dose of Propofol. But I always go back to -- what I've got in my hand, it's about 50 pages of autopsy report that clearly states Michael Jackson did not self-administer. That it would have been virtually impossible.

Suzanne, he was injected in his knee. His body was covered in track marks. He practically had no usable veins left. Any doctor in their right mind would have noticed that.

Stunningly absent is any real feeling from the defense. We don't hear from Conrad Murray himself, which is probably wise. They put up one expert after the next. Do you know what juries do with experts, right? (Snoring)

So it's been expert versus expert. And the only real feeling they got was from the police and the investigators who came on for the state. The defense tried to make a comeback by bringing on good reputation witnesses to talk about what a great guy Conrad Murray is.

MALVEAUX: Right. Yes.

GRACE: One of them even kissed Murray on the head in court, which was totally inappropriate. Did it work? I doubt it.

MALVEAUX: What about this other case? We have this 10-month-old Kansas City baby that's been missing. Her name is Lisa. And she's been gone since, I guess, October 4th or so. What goes through your mind as a mom when you hear that nine days the mother doesn't speak and then she admits that she was drinking, you know, five to 10 glasses of wine the night this child disappeared?

GRACE: Suzanne, Suzanne, she didn't say she was just drinking, she said she was passed out drunk. Blacked out. She was the only caregiver in the home with an eight-year-old, a five-year-old and a 10-month-old baby. The front window, which I have observed myself to be about four and a half feet off the ground, you'd have to be a high- jumper from the Olympics to get through that thing.

MALVEAUX: Yes.

GRACE: And the front of the house, Suzanne, is apparently the entry point. All the cell phones were taken from the home. Very unusual. The lights left on. And today we've been able to confirm that even though the parents state their cell phones were stolen --

MALVEAUX: Right.

GRACE: And that they had forgotten to pay the bill and could not make an outgoing call, we confirmed today that a minute long call was made in the hours from the stolen phone after baby Lisa goes missing.

MALVEAUX: Yes.

GRACE: I'm very disturbed that the parents aren't speaking to police separately and not allowing their boys to speak to police.

MALVEAUX: Right.

All right, Nancy, want to turn the corner her. I know you brought your dance partner, Tristan, who's with you there.

GRACE: I did.

MALVEAUX: You guys are amazing. You danced your way through, what, it started off 12 couples. There are now six left. You're still -- are you feeling more confident you could actually win this thing?

GRACE: Well, you know what, I felt very confident until last night about 9:00 when we were still rehearsing. Lucy was crying at home for Mommy. John David was asleep. And this one was giving me new dance steps to learn. Could you explain yourself, Tristan?

TRISTAN MACMANUS, "DANCING WITH THE STARS": No.

GRACE: Those were some hard steps.

MACMANUS: We're doing great. Yes, it's -- like you said, the competition gets harder as the weeks go on, so everything needs to get harder.

MALVEAUX: Oh, yes.

MACMANUS: (INAUDIBLE).

MALVEAUX: And last week you were with us, Nancy, you said you were bringing sexy back. How's that going? How are you doing? What's your next dance going to be?

GRACE: Well, I'm trying to get him to be sexy on the dance floor. I mean, look at that? What could be more sexy than me in a damsel is still on its way, in a damsel in distress outfit? But I've got to say, though, as much as I rib Justin (ph), he's -- as I much as I rib Tristan, he's the one that got the nine. I'm the one that got the seven. He's really dragging me through.

MACMANUS: No, no, no.

MALVEAUX: Hey, you know, we're rooting for you both.

MACMANUS: (INAUDIBLE) Justin (INAUDIBLE)?

GRACE: Tristan, Justin.

MACMANUS: You're almost as good as Christian (ph). Thank you.

MALVEAUX: We're rooting for you both, really, Nancy. All the best to you. We'll be watching.

GRACE: Hey, one more thing, Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: OK.

GRACE: 800-868-3405. We take sympathy votes.

MALVEAUX: Shameless plug. All right, thanks, Nancy. We're not going to miss this. Don't miss Nancy's show tonight, too, by the way. Nancy is talking to former winners from "Dancing With the Stars." And that is tonight, every week night at 8:00 p.m. Eastern on our sister network HLN.

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MALVEAUX: Most of you use plastic bags every day. You probably have a huge stash at home, right. Well, Guinness World Record says there's no other consumer product used more. There are trillions of them. But our own Amber Lyon found out many end up in trees, streets, and oceans.

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AMBER LYON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dawn off the coast of California.

LYON (on camera): So normally when you're on boats like this, you're out looking for dolphin or fish. But today it's grocery bags. We're fishing for plastic bags.

LYON (voice-over): My fishing partner is Dr. Marcus Eriksen, who has a Ph.D. in science education.

LYON (on camera): Plastic and nature meet. Look.

LYON (voice-over): Eriksen studies the amount and impact of plastic debris in the ocean.

After successfully fishing the surface, we wondered what might be below.

LYON (on camera): Out here in the water it looks very clear, but you never know what's lying underneath.

LYON (voice-over): The bags we found do more than just litter the ocean floor. This is The Marine Mammal Center. Its staff and volunteers rescue and rehabilitate sick and injured animals.

DR. BILL VAN BONN, THE MARINE MAMMAL CENTER: He's not very responsive and he'll get an initial assessment.

LYON: Dr. Bill Van Bonn is director of veterinary science.

VAN BONN: Whales, sea lions, dolphins, in my personal experience, I've seen all three of those animals with bags on them.

LYON (on camera): If a marine mammal swallows a plastic bag, can it kill the animal?

VAN BONN: It could. It could. But I think the bigger concern is the unseen effects of these materials.

DR. MARCUS ERIKSEN, PH.D. IN SCIENCE EDUCATION: But as these plastic bags migrate out to the deep ocean, they fragment very quickly. So one plastic bag can turn into 10,000 particles the size of fish food.

LYON: Eriksen has traveled to remote locations where rotating ocean currents, known as gyres, have trapped debris, sometimes creating what's described as an enormous plastic soup. Some claim the garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean is the size of Texas, but nobody really knows.

ERIKSEN: We collected this debris. There are few recognizable items in here. There's a pen cap. There are two pen caps. If you look carefully right there, it's a toy gorilla. As far from land as you can get on the planet, we found evidence of our trash.

LYON: And they found the remnant of a plastic bag.

ERIKSEN: Here is a plastic bag that's been knotted. Evidence of plastic bags in the gyres.

But we're going to open these fish up and just see if they're ingesting our trash.

LYON: Erickson brought us three lantern fish from his 2008 trip to the great Pacific garbage patch.

ERIKSEN: Right there, that's plastic.

LYON: We searched their stomachs and found not plastic bags, but bits of plastic garbage in two of the three fish.

(END VIDEOTAPE) MALVEAUX: You can see more of Amber Lyon's "Plastic Wars" on an all new CNN Presents this Sunday night, 8:00 Eastern. It's going to a riveting hour with four in-depth stories hosted by our Soledad O'Brien and Dr. Sanjay Gupta.