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Ex-Cain Aide Denies Leak; Rethinking The Referendum; $600 Million Goes Missing; Texas Judge Beats Daughter On Video; Occupy Verses Police; The Many Sides Of Occupy Wall Street; The Many Sides of OWS; Organ Theft in Egypt; Last Chance To Make MJ Doc's Case; Michael Jackson Death Trial Near End; Rick Perry NH Speech Just High Spirits, He Says; Amish Cult Beard-Cutting Attacks Terrorize Neighbor

Aired November 03, 2011 - 13:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Hi there, Fred. And hello, everyone.

All eyes on Can but the G-20 summit is watching Greece and it is not a pretty sight. Herman Cain is pointing fingers, but a rival campaign says it can't leak what it didn't know. And that is where we start today.

A whole new round of accusations and denials in the hottest story in politics, this week anyway. The man now leading the Republican race for president says he think he knows who leaked a sexual harassment allegation from the 1990s. Herman Cain says he confided to an advisor named Kurt Anderson back when Cain was running for a Senate seat from Georgia in 2004.

Today, Anderson works for Rick Perry who's plummeted in the polls while Cain has soared. But that's hardly the final word on all of this.

CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger joins me now with many more words on this, some of them actually from Kurt Anderson himself.

Hi there, Gloria. What's his side of this?

GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, I spoke with him this morning on "American Morning," and his side of it is just flatly is that the conversation that Herman Cain said happened never happened.

So, listen to this.

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KURT ANDERSON: No, no. Well, there's two problems with that. One is I didn't know anything about this, and so it's hard to leak something that you don't know anything about, of course. The second problem with it is this, if someone tells you something in confidence, a family member, a friend, a candidate, a client, and then you go out an blab it to other people, that's just unethical and that's not the way I live my life. But that's sort of immaterial in this instance, because I didn't know anything about any of this. BORGER: So, you're saying that that conversation never took place.

ANDERSON: That's correct. I don't have any knowledge of any of this, and it's just not true.

BORGER: So, were you saying Herman Cain is lying?

ANDERSON: Well, I'm not here to add anymore name calling to what's already --

BORGER: My --

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BORGER: Well, you heard it there. He said the conversation never took place. He did not want to call Herman Cain a liar per se. I asked him that in my own words. But it was very clear that this is someone who was trying to walk a fine line saying, you know, he still likes Herman Cain, he thinks highly of him, but on the other hand, Herman Cain's recollections are 100 percent wrong.

KAYE: It seemed to me that Anderson was trying pretty hard not to say anything bad about Herman Cain.

BORGER: Oh, yes, yes. He was -- he was walking that fine line. First of all, he joined the Perry campaign a couple weeks ago. It doesn't serve his political interest at all to start badmouthing Herman Cain and he says -- and he's always said nice things about Herman Cain on the record even before this.

But on the other hand, Randi, what was so interesting to me sitting there listening to him as the interviewer was that while he was embracing Herman Cain personally, he was really taking a stiletto to the Cain campaign saying, this is what happens when your campaign unravels. This is what happens when you grasp at straws. This is what happened when you need a diversionary target, because the target is right now on you. So, he wasn't without criticism for the Cain campaign.

KAYE: Great interview with Kurt Anderson. Gloria, thank you very much.

BORGER: Sure.

KAYE: And now to the global economic summit that finds itself on the sidelines of a political battle in Greece. Day one of the G-20 forum in France has been even less productive than these things usually are. World leaders stood around and waited while Greek leaders dithered over a bailout plan that could save their country but cost Greek citizens dearly.

My colleague, Ali Velshi, is watching it all. Ali, so do we have a deal or don't we?

ALI VELSHI, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Is there another reporter can you ask? I mean, I've just never found anything so confusing in my life. I have no idea whether we have a deal or not. There are some news outlets that are reporting definitively, there is a deal, there is going to be no referendum. The Greek prime minister has backed down off of the referendum, because he's got opposition support.

I have to say, we've got people on the ground, it is a little less clear to us. For a betting man, I'd say we probably have a deal. But you know, sometimes you go to work, something hits you in the morning, there's something you have to deal with, and you just can't concentrate on work all day, you just can't get your head into the game? That's what's going on at the G-20 today.

These guys all came, men and women, to solve some major global problems an deal with economic growth and regulations and things like that, and this Greece thing hit them a couple days ago. They had their photo-ops, they had their arrivals, but ultimately, everything on the G-20 agenda took a back seat to Greece. Every time there is a press conference about something that we're dealing with, most of the questions were about Greece.

So, it seems to me that they've all put a lot of pressure on Greece. I don't quite know what the prime minister's motivation was in Greece, but it does seem there's been a great deal of activity in Athens, including an emergency cabinet meeting.

And for people who haven't been following all this all day, bottom line is on October 27th, Europe cut a deal to try and get itself out of this crisis involving saving Greece from its financial crisis. It was supposed to be passed by the Greek parliament.

The prime minister two days ago announced he's putting it to the country as a referendum. Good chance that referendum wouldn't pass. The other European countries led by France and Germany said not-uh (ph), if you're doing that and this doesn't pass, you might get kicked out of the Euro zone. You might be of the 17 countries who use the Euro, they might kick Greece out.

This threatened to up-end Europe again. And of course, Randi, what that means is a possible credit crisis that would affect everybody who's watching us right now, if you try and get a mortgage or some other kind of loan. It affects stock markets. It could affect jobs because if Europe goes into a further recession, it weakens demand for products and services elsewhere in the world.

So basically, it has just been one confusing upside down pineapple cake of a mess here at G-20, and it is all because of Greece, Randi. Not bad for a guy who didn't have the answer to your question, right?

KAYE: Well, I was going to say, if anyone can figure it out, Ali, you can. So, I think you made sense of it all. Thank you very much.

VELSHI: All right, Randi. KAYE: Some other stories now that we're keeping an eye on today. More than half a billion dollars is missing from the books of a bankrupt brokerage firm headed by former New Jersey governor, Jon Corzine. MF Global, which filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on Monday, discovered the shortfall of $600 million. But a lawyer with the commodities futures trading commission said the figure is preliminary and could rise. A judge has allowed the partial transfer of 50,000 commodity accounts to other brokerages to prevent them from being sold off.

A Texas judge is facing a police investigation over a video showing him whipping his 16-year-old daughter. Video shot in 2004 was recently posted on YouTube and has received over 1 million views. We're going to show you the video, but we have to warn you, it is very disturbing. Daughter, Hillary, set up the camera on her dresser. You can see the judge, William Adams, repeatedly whipping her with a belt. In the video, he curses and berates her for illegally downloading music, but we've muted that audio because of the profanity. Hillary Adams, now 23, spoke earlier on NBC's "Today" show about why she decided to post that video seven years after it happened.

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HILLARY ADAMS: Back then, I was still a minor and living under his roof and releasing it then would have -- I don't know what would have happened to me, or my mother, or my little sister. So, waiting until today, seven years later, just about has enabled me to pull away and be able to distance myself from the consequences.

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KAYE: Judge Adams has been relieved of his duties for the next two weeks while the matter is being investigated. And a programming note, Anderson Cooper will interview Hillary Adams along with her mother. That's tonight on "A.C. 360," 8:00 p.m. Eastern.

Protesting by foot and in song. Why folk singer Arlo Guthrie joined Occupy Wall Street's protest against corporate greed. He joins us live, next, to tell us all about it.

But first, the U.K. has produced a whole lot of rock stars, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elton John, yet today, we have found some new rock stars from across the pond. Take a look, this is Lilly. The Great Dane had to have her eyes removed five years ago because of a disease. Well, thankfully, she met her kind-hearted best friend and, yes, very own personal guide dog, Madison. Madison acts as Lilly's eyes when the two are out directing her with both touch and sound. They are inseparable and pretty adorable. Lilly and Madison, you are today's "Rock Stars."

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KAYE: The fifth largest commercial port in America is hoping to get back open today after a show of force by Occupy Oakland. Through sheer force of numbers, demonstrators yesterday shut the board down and carried out a strike against city businesses. Real force was on display later in and around a city park. Police fired tear gas at protesters who allegedly were throwing rocks and shooting off fireworks at them.

Up the coast in Seattle, police used pepper spray on protesters who had surrounded a hotel where the CEO of J.P. Morgan Chase was giving a speech. All of this is a long way from Wall Street and a far cry from the look and feel of Occupy rallies like this one. This is Columbus Circle in Manhattan a week and a half ago, and you might recognize the musicians.

So, that guitarist you see there in the floppy hat? Well, protest movements are old hat. Arlo Guthrie joins me now via Skype from Boston. Arlo, so nice to have you on the program. What do you make of this whole Occupy Wall Street movement?

ARLO GUTHRIE (via Skype): Hi, Randi. I think it's really reminiscent of old times, for sure. I think it's wonderful. It's great to see so many young people engaged from all parts of the political spectrum, and I was just happy to be there joining them.

KAYE: How do you think it compares to some of the great movements of the 20th century?

GUTHRIE: Well, a couple of things are the same essentially. You had back 40, 50 years ago so many things going on. You had the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, you had the save the trees, the whales, burn the lingerie, whatever was going on. Most of all of these things were leaderless. They weren't necessarily looking to do -- to fix one thing one way. There were a lot of different points of view. There were people who took advantage of that who sort of became de facto leaders, but nobody really listened to them. It was really a groundswell, something just coming out of the earth that poured people out into the streets, and it really did change things. That's very reminiscent of what's going on today.

KAYE: As you know, Occupy Wall Street, the movement in general, does have its critics, and one of them was on our show yesterday, Ben stein. I want to play for you just a little bit of what he said and get your reaction to it.

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BEN STEIN, AUTHOR, "WHAT WOULD BEN STEIN DO?": I don't mean to say they're all bums. Some of them are very fine people who want to help. But the idea that you can help in a complex securities fraud issue or complex banking fraud issue by banging on a drum and sleeping inside a tent, is -- it's just incredible. It's unbelievable. It shows the complete collapse of education in this country if people think banking on a drum is going to solve this problem.

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KAYE: So Arlo, what do you think? What do you think of those comments, does he have a point?

GUTHRIE: I think he has a -- yes, he does have a point. I don't think it is the only point. I think the point that he's missing, and maybe some others also, is that this is the first time in decades that you have seen so many people of divergent points of view, politically an otherwise, out in the street. They may be talking about Wall Street today, but what they're really doing is forming a sort of feeling of what it is to be somebody out on the street, what it is to feel like you're with hundreds of thousands of other people, not just in this country, but all over the world who are hoping that the world is going to improve.

So, they may not have much of an impact as far as the Wall Street thing is concerned, or they may, but they will certainly have an impact as time goes by and other issues come that we have to deal with. And there will be a core group of people who have -- will have learned from this experience of what it feels like to be out there and be somebody who's saying something regardless of what point of view it is.

ARLO GUTHRIE, SINGER/ACTIVIST: As far as the Wall Street thing is concerned -- or they may. But they will certainly have an impact as time goes by and other issues come that we have to deal with. And there will be a core group of people who have -- will have learned from this experience of what it feels like to be out there and be somebody who's saying something, regardless of what point of view it is. I think that's the most valuable thing going on right now.

RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Just take me back just very quickly to that night in Columbus Circle. I mean what did it feel like? What is the energy within this group of protesters?

GUTHRIE: Well, I remember, you know, back 40 -- whatever it is -- years ago, the 1960s. We were out in the street for a lot of different occasions. And there were all of these movements. When you sort of go back in time and look at them historically, people tend to break them up as, oh, they had nothing to do with each other. But the truth was that most of the people were the same at all of these different things going on. So, to me, to be at a thing in Columbus Circle, the Occupy Wall Street thing, was very reminiscent of the feeling that we had that maybe we can do something.

The first thing we got to do is get to know who we are and get that feeling of being -- like you're not alone. There are other people who feel this way. And it makes you feel good. And it starts this kind of movement that can build on itself. There may be some people who don't think it has any value. It might be true. But the value of being with other people feeling good is, I think, overwhelming and it will definitely be a force to be reckoned with as other things come up that we don't see on the radar right now.

KAYE: Yes, I'm sure it will.

Arlo Guthrie, great to have you on the show. Hope you'll come back. Thank you very much.

GUTHRIE: Happy to. Thank you, Randi.

KAYE: People kidnapped, taken for their body parts. It is an "Under Covered" story, but it is happening. So stick around to see the details.

But first, the top videos on cnn.com.

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KAYE: Welcome back.

What if I told you one of the most profitable criminal activities today is human organ trafficking? Smuggling organs stolen from live bodies is said to be Egypt's second most profitable illegal activity behind weapons trade, ahead of drugs and prostitution. Fred Pleitgen reports on this frightening new trend in his upcoming "Freedom Project" documentary, "Death in the Desert." Now I need to warn you, this report does include graphic content.

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FRED PLEITGEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As head of the New Generation Foundation for human rights, Hamdi al Azazzy works to help refugees in Egypt.

HAMDI AL AZAZZY, NEW GENERATION FOUNDATION: Before few years, I hear from one peddlers about the spare parts, body spare parts. But I can't accept in that time it is true or not true.

PLEITGEN: It seems an outrageous claim. But Azazzy has evidence. A series of photos he took of bodies that were found in the desert. All of them have unusual scars in the abdominal area. Azazzy says he even knows where the operations are carried out. He claims corrupt doctors are in league with Bedouins involved in human trafficking. Corneas, livers and kidneys are the organs most commonly taken from the helpless refugees.

AZAZZY: After take whatever they like or the doctor choose it from this body, after take the body and take it away to the desert.

PLEITGEN: An incredible claim. So we took the photos to a forensic doctor in Cairo. Dr. Fakhri Saleh is the former head of Cairo's forensic department and an expert on the illegal organ business. He says the stitches on the bodies reveal they were operated on shortly before they died.

FAKHRI SALEH, FORENSIC DOCTOR (through translator): There are two kinds of scars. One is from a postmortem autopsy and one from surgery.

PLEITGEN: On all the bodies, the scars are in the same place.

SALEH (on camera): Good stitches. It is good stitches. Good stitches here.

PLEITGEN (on camera): And this is also the area of liver and kidney?

SALEH: Yes. It is. The area here is near the liver and near the kidney here. Kidney here and liver here.

PLEITGEN: So you could open here and then just take it out --

SALEH: Yes, and take it.

PLEITGEN (voice-over): Extracting organs would likely kill a person in a matter of hours, Dr. Saleh says.

SALEH (through translator): He could open you up, take it out an just let you die. The mafia doesn't care whether you live or die. When they cut you open, they would give them anesthesia, not because they are concerned for your life, but to prevent them from crying out.

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KAYE: And Fred Pleitgen joins me now.

Fred, why is this so big in Egypt?

PLEITGEN: Well, I mean, one of the things that's happened is that the United Nations, even a couple of years ago, has said that Egypt is somewhat of a hub for elicit organ trafficking. Now some of that is actually voluntary with people who are very poor selling of their organs to try and make some money. But some of it is also involuntary.

And that's what we had in our investigation right there. Those are African refugees who are actually trying to get past Egypt and go to Israel. They are then caught in Bedouin camps and some of them actually have their organs taken out.

It seems as though there's a lot of hospitals, especially in the Cairo area, who are part of this, who send doctors out there to do this. There's no real hard evidence on that at this point, but it certainly seems as though there is a larger mafia that's behind that. And that's certainly the impression that you get when you talk to people there in Sinai, which is a very closed-off area. It's very hard to get the people to speak.

But we did then get one of the Bedouin, who used to be involved in this trade, to talk to us about how it actually works. And he told us that it is doctors who are in league with Bedouin tribes who go to Sinai and then carry out these operations, Randi.

KAYE: Oh, it's just horrible for so many of those involved. Fred Pleitgen, thank you very much for bringing us that report.

And, don't forget, you can check out the full documentary, "Death in The Desert," online at the cnnfredomproject.blogs.cnn.com.

Closing arguments in the Michael Jackson death trial. Will the jury be able to focus on the facts and facts alone? What each side needs to say to make their case. But first, on this day in 1948, Dewey defeats Truman. Well, at least that was the front page headline of "The Chicago Tribune." You see it there. The paper jumped the gun with its early edition declaring New York Governor Thomas Dewey president over incumbent Harry S. Truman. The only thing is, Truman won. "The Chicago Tribune's" infamous inaccuracy is this shame in history.

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KAYE: Closing arguments now underway in the Michael Jackson death trial. It's been more than two years since the world was shocked by the death of Michael Jackson. But the question remains, who is ultimately responsible? Prosecutors point to Jackson's personal doctor, Conrad Murray. The defense at Michael Jackson himself. For both sides, today is their last chance to make their case. We have some live pictures now from inside the courtroom. Closing arguments started just about 20 minutes ago and they're still underway.

I want to bring in now "In Session" host Ryan Smith from our sister network, truTV.

Ryan, you've been following this case closely. You know it inside and out. So which side do you think has the stronger case going into these closing arguments?

RYAN SMITH, HOST FOR "IN SESSION" ON TRUTV: Well, without a doubt, it's the prosecution, Randi, because their case is so strong relating to standard of care. Their whole point -- and that's what this is, a standard of care case -- is that Dr. Murray had a legal duty to Michael Jackson. He was his doctor. And he failed to do what he should have done. And in that failure, he created a substantial risk of death to Michael Jackson and essentially caused his death.

So right now the failure to call 911, the administering Propofol in his home, the leaving him alone, abandoning him. All of those are different failures in the standard of care. And if the prosecutor can get the jury to agree to that and not think that something that Michael Jackson did was the cause that couldn't have been foreseen by Conrad Murray, then you're looking at a guilty verdict.

So the defense has their work cut out for them today, but the prosecution has already started out very strong.

KAYE: And speaking of the defense, I mean when you think about what their case really hinges on, I mean they have tried to paint Michael Jackson as an addict. They've tried to paint Conrad Murray as trying to wean him off the drug Propofol, which is what killed him in the end. He called it his milk. Murray, as you know, didn't take the stand. Let's listen to what Murray told police during his interrogation and I want to get your reaction to it.

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CONRAD MURRAY (voice-over): I then decided to go ahead and give him some of the milk so he could get a couple of hours sleep so that he could produce, because I cared about him. I didn't want him to fail. I had no intentions of hurting him.

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KAYE: So do you think playing some of that, I mean, could that backfire, do you think, for the defense?

SMITH: It could very well backfire. And that's part of the problem. Everything that weighs in Dr. Murray's favor for the defense has an alternative explanation for the prosecutor.

So for example, when you say that Michael Jackson may have had some addictions to drugs like Demerol, and therefore he was taking this Propofol to help him sleep, Dr. Murray's trying to wean him off that Propofol. The problem with all this is, who's the person responsible for all this? Supposed to be Dr. Murray.

So you have to know how the drugs interact. If he didn't, he failed him on the standard of care. You have to know what you're giving him and why you're doing this. And if he didn't or if he didn't know that he was an addict, again, it could be a failure.

So when Dr. Murray says, Oh, you know, the defense team is going to talk about how Michael Jackson may have injected himself with Propofol -- part of the problem with that is Dr. Murray may have been the one who left the needle of Propofol in the room. So even if you believe Michael Jackson injected himself, the prosecution's going to say, Hey, you should have foreseen that and made sure that you took every precaution, not to mention the fact he should have done all this in a hospital.

KAYE: Right. Now, he is charged -- Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter. Do you think the prosecution went with that to make a conviction easier?

SMITH: Absolutely, because here's the thing. So many people have said, Why not second degree murder? There's a couple factors here. First of all, this is not intentional. The prosecution wants to make it clear this is not an intentional crime. We're not saying he's an evil man. We're simply saying that he did something that was reckless, negligent, and that's why it's involuntary manslaughter. You charge something like murder, then you have to prove intent.

The other thing is, in California, there have been a lot of decisions where if you're charged with second degree murder or something else, sometimes you get a hung jury because the juries say, I don't necessarily think it was intentional, so I'm not going to make it second degree, but I don't necessarily see the recklessness. I don't know which one to pick. And therefore, they get tripped up on both.

So I think what the prosecution was trying to do here is say, Let's make it simple. Let's give them one charge, something we know we can prove, and hang our hats on that.

KAYE: Ryan Smith, we'll be watching those closing arguments today along with you. Thank you very much. The Republican blame game. How Cain's problem could soon become an issue for the entire Republican Party. That is "Fair Game" next.

But if you think that the "He said, he said" mud slinging going on between the GOP candidates is titillating, you need to take a look back in history. Did you know that one successful presidential contender was accused of having a prostitute for a mother? If you know who this president was, send me a tweet @randikayecnn.com. I'll give you a shout-out if you're the first person with the right answer, when we come back.

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KAYE: Before the break, I asked a question about mud slinging in political campaigns. Specifically, what successful presidential contender was accused of having a prostitute for a mother? The answer, General Andrew Jackson. Jackson would go on to serve as president for eight years.

And I would like to give a shout-out to Lucas Wynne. He was one of the first to tweet the correct answer to me during the break. So many of them piling in. Thank you so much for responding.

Herman Cain's campaign is pointing the finger at the Perry campaign. Cain's camp says Rick Perry's people almost certainly provided the press with the story about sexual harassment allegations made against Cain in the '90s. Perry's campaign communications director has in turn accused the Mitt Romney team.

But who has the most to gain really from this scandal? That's "Fair Game" for my guests today. With us, Republican strategist Karen Hanretty, Democratic political consultant Ed Espinoza. Karen, let me start with you here today. Who does this scandal help the most politically, do you think?

KAREN HANRETTY, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: I don't think it's helping anyone right now. And by the way, you know, details about this Cain story are changing almost by the hour. There's breaking news out of Politico that they've identified the settlement amount of one of the women as being $45,000.

You know, and also, Cain's campaign manager, Mark Block, is starting to back away his accusations against Curt Anderson, one of Perry's campaign staff. So this is just, quite frankly, a big old, hot bunch of mess all the way around. It's not helping anyone. It's not helping Republicans and it's not helping either of these candidates.

KAYE: Ed, what do you think? What's the impact here on Cain, do you think?

ED ESPINOZA, DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL CONSULTANT: Oh, it's really bad news for Cain. You know, when we talked about this on Monday, the question was, Does this spiral into something bigger? And the conventional wisdom was if there's not more to the story, then it can't get bigger. Well, the problem is, is there's a lot more to the story and it has a lot more to do with Cain's response to this. His response on Sunday night was different than his response on Monday, and it's changed since then. When you have a national candidate that people don't know very well, things like this define who that candidate is and perception becomes reality.

So whether or not he's going to accuse the Perry campaign or anybody else of putting these allegations out doesn't matter. What matters is whether or not the allegations are true. That's becoming harder for them to defend against right now.

HANRETTY: But...

KAYE: Karen, if -- if Cain supporters do move on, I mean, where would they go?

HANRETTY: Well, let's just take a step back. Interestingly, you know, Cain had one of his best fund-raising days ever. He raised $400,000 in a 24-hour time period off of this story alone. That's more than he would, you know, raise in most months. So I don't think -- I don't think his supporters are ready to flee yet.

I think, you know, look, the next 24, 48 hours is going to be really telling. There's a story out there on a conservative Web site, PJMedia, that claims one of the young women woke up in his hotel room after this notorious dinner that was, you know, talked about yesterday...

KAYE: Yes, we don't know -- obviously, there's a lot out there...

HANRETTY: Right, and we don't know.

KAYE: We don't know.

HANRETTY: We don't know. But you know, so -- but the point is, if there are -- look, if any of this can be confirmed, obviously, his support is going to flee. Where it goes is the real question. You know, they're not going to go to Romney. If they were with Romney, they'd be with him right now. Look, Cain is just one of the "anyone but Romney" candidates, could be -- I think, you know, quite frankly Newt Gingrich could actually, you know, gain a lot of that support.

But again, he's seen as an insider. They like Cain because he's the ultimate outsider, and we've really run out of the outsider candidates, you know, in the GOP lineup, so...

KAYE: All right, Karen Hanretty...

ESPINOZA: Well, Newt Gingrich...

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KAYE: Oh...

ESPINOZA: Yes...

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KAYE: We're going to have to leave it there, guys.

ESPINOZA: ... three ugly divorces, so I'm not sure that he's the next alternative, but we'll see what happens.

KAYE: All right. We will see what happens, you'll want to hear what Texas governor Rick Perry has to say about all of these allegations. He's on CNN's "JOHN KING USA" -- that's tonight at 6:00 Eastern. You do not want to miss that one.

This country will be hosting the 2016 summer Olympic games, but today it's in the news for a driver's hand-eye coordination that could definitely help him (ph) win a gold medal. We go "Globe Trekking" in two minutes.

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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone. Let's go "Globe Trekking." We start in Brazil where federal agents took extreme steps to stop a group of smugglers. You see the smugglers' plane taking off. The officer's in the car, and they crash right into the wing of the plane. Pretty dramatic stuff there. According to a police spokesman, the driver of the car has plenty of experience chasing suspects, so he was able to perform this daring maneuver, jump out of the car and chase down the suspects. Wow! That's pretty incredible.

To Libya now, where Moammar Gadhafi is gone but certainly not forgotten. Former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice has quite a story about meeting the former Libyan dictator and the strange video he had made of her set to a song titled "African Flower in the White House." She talked about the experience with CNN's Piers Morgan.

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CONDOLEEZZA RICE, FMR. SECRETARY OF STATE: He had paid reparations to the families of the victims of his terrorist acts. It was my job to go there, do a little bit diplomatic business and get out. And so that's what I did. But I have to say, I did have that terrible moment when he said that he had the videotape, I am just glad that it all came out all right.

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KAYE: Rice shares more in her latest book, "No Higher Honor."

In northern Spain, a scene that's usually reserved for a summer blockbuster, a snake in an ATM? The video seen on YouTube shows a small snake caught in the machine where the cash is dispensed. Oh, my! A man tried to withdraw money and was greeted by the slithery creature. He alerted police, who were able to free the snake. Oh, yes, he was also able to get the green he had actually come for. Good stuff. An Amish cult -- that's what is being blamed for a string of bizarre crimes across Ohio's Amish country. Why the FBI believes this man is behind the attack. A look at "mullet clan."

But first, is it just me, or are you sick and tired of all these sports labor disputes? MLB, NHL, NFL, and now again the NBA? Enough already! In the words of the great Yogi Berra, if the world was perfect, it wouldn't be. We get it, some of you are unhappy with your multi-million-dollar contracts and everyone is blaming everyone else. Well, none of us are happy waiting. Michael, ring the bell! Sports labor disputes, your 15 minutes are up.

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KAYE: So have you seen this Rick Perry speech that has gone viral? Well, Paul Steinhauser is at the political desk in Washington to share a little bit more about this one. It was quite a sight, that speech, Paul.

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: It really was. And other than Herman Cain, it's been the talk of the week. I'm talking about the Texas governor when he was in New Hampshire the other day, on Friday night, the presidential candidate giving a speech, a "best of," I guess you could say, of that speech has gone viral. Take a listen.

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GOV. RICK PERRY (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The mortgage deduction for charitable -- yep! You keep that in there. And your state and local taxes are in there. Put those on, $12,500 for every...

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STEINHAUSER: So Randi, after this came out and went viral on line, a lot of people were saying, Well, was Rick Perry drunk or was he maybe on pain medication? Well, the answer is no, he says, in an interview last night with "The San Francisco Chronicle." He says that is not the case at all. In fact, he says it was a pretty typical speech for me.

Now, just a few minutes from now, a couple of unaligned Republicans from New Hampshire who were at the event -- they're going to have a news conference and they're going to say the same thing, defending Rick Perry.

One last thing. Guess what? Rick Perry is the guest on "JK USA." He sits down with John King in Iowa a little later today. We'll listen in. I'm sure that will definitely come up, Randy.

KAYE: Yes, let's see if he's in rare form again. It was interesting. Paul Steinhauser, thank you very much.

STEINHAUSER: Yes. Sure was. KAYE: Well, every day on this show, we call out someone who has done something to make us all shake our heads. And off to Chicago we go, where a bus driver with the Chicago Transit Authority might want to consider some anger management classes.

As "The Windy City Times" tells us, the bus driver tried to have this couple removed from his bus because they were kissing. The couple, Christopher Buchanan (ph) and Darrell Hughes (ph), are gay. They say the bus driver yelled homophobic slurs at them and called police. They were on their way home from a program at the Broadway Youth Center.

Buchanan told "The Windy City Times" they were holding hands and kissing when a middle-aged woman complained to the bus driver about them. That's when Buchanan says the driver told them, quote "I can't stand fags," and told them to get off the bus.

The police reportedly said they'd done nothing illegal, but after a two-hour ordeal with the transit authority, the guys got off the bus. To quote the couple, "Where does it state on Chicago Transit Authority we can't kiss on the bus?" Good point.

The couple filed a complaint with the transit authority, which told the newspaper it is looking into the case.

For showing prejudice toward your passengers, it is time for you, Mr. Bus Driver, to face the music.

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KAYE: Now let's go "Street Level" with stories making headlines across the country. A different kind of immigration battle is taking shape in Florida. The state forbids certain Florida college students who were born in the U.S. and are citizens from getting in-state tuition rates. Why, you ask? Because their parents are illegal immigrants.

According to a number of reports, five students, all U.S. citizens, are suing Florida for denying them in-state tuition, which they say is a benefit they have a right to. The students claim the higher out-of-state tuition forced them to drop out or take fewer classes.

Now let's head to Bethany Park, Indiana, where an unusual sibling rivalry is playing out. Meet Charles and Walt Worley. They are your typical brothers except when it comes to their involvement in the town's four-member council. Both Worleys have made up 50 percent of that council since 1996, Charles, Ward 3, Walt, Ward 4.

But here's the catch. Charles recently moved into Walt's territory -- hope you're keeping up with all this -- and now these brothers are running toe to toe against each other for the same seat. It has been more than 15 years since they had a town council election in Bethany.

Now we want to take to you Carrollton, Ohio, to an unassuming private Amish community that is being rocked by a rash of very strange assaults. These five men were arrested on kidnapping and burglary charges. They are accused of arming themselves with scissors and battery-operated clippers to hack off what is an important symbol of the Amish faith, men's beards and a woman's hair. All five thought to be members of what some believe is a breakaway Amish cult.

Gary Tuchman got a rare inside look -- Gary.

GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Randy, we've heard about the story for several days now, beard-cuttings in Amish country. We were wondering about the man who the sheriff says is the ringleader of these beard-cuttings. He hasn't appeared on television. So we wanted to go there, give it an effort to get him on TV. And we did that. We met him face to face.

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(voice-over): In rural eastern Ohio, the Amish have lived for generations in peace and solitude. But recently, in the middle of the night, an Amish woman in this house, Arlene Miller, called 911.

911 OPERATOR: Carroll County 911.

ARLENE MILLER, VICTIM'S WIFE: We have terrorists here. Somebody's terrorizing us.

TUCHMAN: And then her husband, Myron, took the phone.

MYRON MILLER, VICTIM OF BEARD-CUTTING ATTACK: I opened my door and asked what they want. The one guy reached in, grabbed me by my beard and pulled me out.

TUCHMAN: Grabbed him by his beard and started to cut it off. Myron Miller is one of at least four Amish men in Ohio who have been victims of bizarre beard-cutting attacks. That's right, beard-cutting attacks. Fred Abdalla is the sheriff in Jefferson County, Ohio.

SHERIFF FRED ABDALLA, JEFFERSON COUNTY, OHIO: It's very degrading to an Amish man. One Amish man said he'd rather die than have his beard cut off. That's how bad that is.

TUCHMAN: Myron Miller was attacked by five men. He escaped before his entire beard was cut. He talked, but like many Amish who don't like publicity, did not want to face the camera.

MYRON MILLER: It doesn't make sense to us, either, why somebody would just start cutting beards, you know, terrorize people.

TUCHMAN: Myron Miller's wife did not want her face on camera at all.

(on camera): There we go. OK, this is my first time putting a horse on a buggy.

(voice-over): But she did offer to take me on a horse and buggy ride to talk about the fear in the community. (on camera): Amish people aren't used to being scared with such a peaceful lifestyle, right?

ARLENE MILLER: We never locked our doors before this happened, but now that this has happened, we are locking our doors.

TUCHMAN (voice-over): And this is who they say they're trying to keep out, these Amish men who were arrested in connection with the beard-cutting case of Myron Miller. This was a court hearing for three of the five men arrested. They are all now free out on bond, but the sheriff says the men were ordered to do the beard-cuttings by one particular man.

ABDALLA: I've dealt with a lot of Amish. They're just beautiful people. But I can't compare Sam Mullet to the ones that I have met.

TUCHMAN: Sam Mullet is the bishop of a breakaway Amish sect that's in a deep rift with the mainstream Amish, who say he's dangerously manipulative over his flock. But why the beard-cutting? It's a profound insult to the Amish, and Mullet's followers have allegedly used it as a weapon to punish people who might have insulted them. Three of the men arrested are sons of Sam Mullet.

ABDALLA: He's a domineering individual. Nothing moves in that community without him saying it's OK. He calls all of the shots. And they're literally scared to death of him.

And I have said that he is a cult leader over the years because they will do anything he tells them to do. The one said they will die for their father. That's how severely he has them brainwashed.

TUCHMAN: So we went to the tiny town of Bergholz, Ohio, in search of Sam Mullet, and we found him. He wasn't very pleased to see us.

(on camera): If the sheriff says you're a cult, what's your response to that?

SAM MULLET, BISHOP OF BERGHOLZ AMISH COMMUNITY: We're not a cult.

TUCHMAN: But did you -- have you ordered men to cut people's beards off?

MULLET: I did not order it.

TUCHMAN (voice-over): But Sam Mullet does not deny that his sons or the other men committed the beard attacks.

MULLET: They do what they think is right and I -- yes, I could have probably said, You're not going to do this, and maybe they wouldn't right then. But sooner or later, it would have happened anyway.

TUCHMAN (on camera): Well, why do you think these people have their beards cut off? MULLET: We're getting in too deep and it's too long a story. It goes way back. I'm just not interested.

TUCHMAN: Do you think those people did something wrong?

MULLET: I'm telling you, I'm not interested. Can you hear me?

TUCHMAN (voice-over): To Myron Miller's wife, Arlene, who later decided she would appear on camera, there's no doubt who's behind the attacks.

(on camera): Who do you believe is responsible for all this?

MILLER: Sam, Sam Mullet.

TUCHMAN (voice-over): She says Sam Mullet is angry at her family because her family helped one of Mullet's sons leave his father's group.

MILLER: If they ever do arrest him and he comes out, he's able to get out on bond, he's not going to go down easy.

TUCHMAN: Sam Mullet hasn't been arrested, but authorities say they're building a case against him.

ABDALLA: I can't take any chances with this guy.

TUCHMAN: Meanwhile, no arrests have been made in another case. An Amish woman was victimized by a hair-cutting attack. Amish women consider their hair to be God's glory.

The police report stating the victim removed her bandana and revealed several patches of hair missing. The sheriff says Mullet is behind that attack. And now the federal government has decided to get involved.

(on camera): The FBI is now investigating this situation. What's your feeling about that?

MULLET: We're not guilty, so I have nothing to hide. If they want to come and check us out, we'd be glad to see them here.

TUCHMAN (voice-over): Sam Mullet claims people have a vendetta against him, that he just wants his people to be left alone and that he is the righteous one.

MULLET: People that are spreading lies around about us, and the way they're treating us by getting the sheriff, getting the law and everything, are asking for a big punishment from the man up above.

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TUCHMAN: Now, Amish people are generally not allowed to drive cars. So how did these people get away from these crimes? Did they run? Did they take a horse and buggy? Well, here's what's not very much known. You can't drive a car, you can't be behind the wheel if you're Amish, but you can be in a car. So what Amish people do is they hire drivers to take them around.

And here's what's interesting. It appears that hired drivers took these men away from the crime scenes. But according to the sheriff's office there, the hired drivers knew nothing about what was taking place -- Randi.

KAYE: Gary, great reporting. Thank you very much. And thank you all for watching. The news continues now with Brooke Baldwin. Hi, Brooke.