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Rick Perry's Debate Blunder; Republican Debate Fact-Check; Penn State Legendary Coach Joe Paterno Fired; Bridging The Digital Divide; Jermaine Jackson Slams Dr. Murray; How Tabloid Reporters Operate

Aired November 10, 2011 - 11:59   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. I'm Suzanne Malveaux. Want to get you up to speed.

Penn State introduced its new head football coach just a short time ago. Defensive coordinator, Tom Bradley, has some pretty big shoes to fill a day after the university fired Coach Joe Paterno. Paterno's former assistant, Jerry Sandusky, is charged with molesting eight boys.

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TOM BRADLEY, INTERIM HEAD COACH, PENN STATE: Right now, I think you should know where our team is toward this whole issue and toward those children, toward their families, and our thoughts and our prayers are with them.

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MALVEAUX: Hundreds of angry students filled the streets of State College overnight at Penn State, furious over Paterno's abrupt dismissal. They flipped a TV news van, tossed rocks and bottles at police. Officers came back at the crowd with pepper spray.

At least two of the four women who have accused Republican presidential hopeful, Herman Cain, of sexual harassment are considering holding a news conference now. At last night's Republican debate, Cain fended off questions about these allegations and he got some support from the audience.

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UNIDENTIFIED DEBATE MODERATOR: Why should the American people hire a president if they feel there are character issues?

HERMAN CAIN, (R), FORMER GODFATHER'S PIZZA CEO & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The American people deserve better than someone being tried in the court of public opinion based on unfounded accusations. That's what --

(APPLAUSE)

CAIN: I value my character and my integrity more than anything else.

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MALVEAUX: Presidential Candidate Rick Perry's campaign may have a new catchphrase -- oops. In last night's Republican debate, Perry said he would eliminate three federal agencies if he's elected president. The problem -- he could only name two of them. Perry admitted "he stepped in it" when he couldn't come up with the third.

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RICK PERRY, (R), GOVERNOR OF TEXAS & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The third agent, if government, I would -- I would do away with the education, the --

(LAUGHTER)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Commerce.

PERRY: Commerce, and -- let's see -- I can't. The third one I can't. Sorry.

(LAUGHTER)

PERRY: Oops.

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MALVEAUX: Oops. We'll tell you what Perry is saying about that today.

And on Wall Street, the markets recovering a bit from yesterday's big sell-off. We're checking the big board now. We're looking at the Dow Jones down -- oh, no, up 112 points. Taking a close look at that.

Rupert Murdoch's son, James, got another grilling over phone- hacking claims. British lawmakers are questioning him about his last appearance before parliament. One lawmaker said that James Murdoch behaved like a mafia boss while operating the "News of the World" paper. Murdoch continued to defend his actions.

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JAMES MURDOCH, CHAIRMAN, NEWS INTERNATIONAL: If I knew then what I know today with respect to the relevant leading counsel's opinion, the details and import of the four-level (ph) documents, the company would have acted differently.

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MALVEAUX: The military is now acknowledging a shameful practice in the handling of body parts of fallen troops. So we've all seen these dignified transfers of those killed in action who are returned home. Well, as it turns out, the ashes of some cremated remains were dumped in landfills unbeknownst to their survivors.

Authorities say the practice was stopped back in 2008. Remains from cremated body parts are now disposed of at sea.

One of the biggest storms to hit Alaska in years is starting to ease off a little. The storm slammed into the state's west coast, sending huge waves into shoreline communities. Some areas had winds of almost 90 miles an hour. The storm is expected to dump some heavy snow on Anchorage today.

Michael Jackson's family, they are outraged over a documentary that is about to air about Dr. Conrad Murray. Now, you know and can recall that he is the man convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.

Jermaine Jackson spoke last night to CNN's Piers Morgan about the outcome of the trial.

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JERMAINE JACKSON, MICHAEL JACKSON'S BROTHER: Put it like this -- if they gave him all the time in the world, it's not going to bring my brother back. It's not.

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MALVEAUX: It's the day after the latest Republican presidential debate, and Rick Perry's campaign, they are trying to limit the fallout from what people are calling a brain freeze.

Jim Acosta joins us with some of the highlights of this debate. And in Perry's case, it was a pretty low point.

Jim, tell us what happened. We saw this kind of play out here, and surprisingly, he wasn't able to recuperate or recover as he needed to during that gaffe. What happened?

JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, this was one of those meltdowns that you just don't see that often in presidential politics, quite frankly, Suzanne. You know, Governor Perry was not asked a question. He was trying to bring up one of his own talking points, and was trying to name three departments of the federal government that he would eliminate if he were elected president. And he basically just suffered a brain freeze, and there's really no other way to describe it but to show the video.

So let's take a look.

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GOV. RICK PERRY (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And I will tell you, it's three agencies of government when I get there that are gone: Commerce, Education, and the -- what's the third one there? Let's see.

(LAUGHTER)

RON PAUL (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You need five.

PERRY: Oh, five. OK. So Commerce, Education, and the --

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: EPA?

PERRY: EPA, there you go. No.

JOHN HARWOOD, MODERATOR: Seriously, is EPA the one you were talking about?

PERRY: No, sir. No, sir. We are talking about the agencies of government. The EPA needs to be rebuilt. There's no doubt about that.

HARWOOD: But you can't name the third one?

PERRY: The third agency of government, I would do away with the Education, the --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Commerce.

PERRY: Commerce. And let's see -- I can't. The third one I can't. Sorry. Oops.

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ACOSTA: And Governor Perry instantly knew that he had a problem on his hands. He marched right into the post-debate spin room and told reporters that he had "stepped in it," and now he's trying to have some fun with this, Suzanne. It may be only strategy he has left at his disposal.

He put out on his Web site this morning a question to his supporters: "Which department of the federal government would you like to forget?" Sort of having fun with that.

And he even said on one of the morning talk shows today, including "AMERICAN MORNING," that he's going to soldier on with his campaign. But in the middle of all of it, he was trying to at least make light of what happened. Here's what he had to say.

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PERRY: Obviously, I stepped in it. But again, I go -- I have my moment of humor with it and then I press on and understand that there are a lot more serious things facing this country than whether or not I could remember the Department of Energy at an inappropriate time.

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ACOSTA: So, Governor Perry trying to smile this off. And from we understand, he's going to be on "The Late Show With David Letterman" tonight doing the "Top Ten List" there. So he's going to try to continue to have fun with this.

It's going to be up to voters, it's going to be up to his supporters whether or not they're going to be laughing with him or laughing at him, Suzanne. But if there's one person who benefited from all of this, it's Herman Cain.

He's been in a lot of trouble lately facing these accusations of sexual harassment. But for the moment, the glare of the presidential spotlight is off of him at this point -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: And Jim, I noticed that Perry, on his Web site there, they say if you donate $5 for every idea of the federal agency you want to eliminate, so obviously they're trying to make some money off this from their supporters. We'll see if that actually translates into some dollars now that he's up against the wall.

Tell us a little bit about Newt Gingrich. What happened with him? There was a rather testy exchange about the media.

ACOSTA: Well, you know, this is Newt Gingrich's favorite topic. And often, in these past debates before last night, it was a question that he didn't like. And he would kind of tear into the media at this point.

Last night, it was sort of unprovoked. And he still went after the media in this one exchange with CNBC's Maria Bartiromo about the Occupy Wall Street crowd that's protesting down on Wall Street.

Let's listen to what Newt Gingrich had to say.

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NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Historically, this is the richest country in the history of the world because corporations succeed in creating both profits and jobs. And it's sad that the news media doesn't report accurately how the economy works.

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MARIA BARTIROMO, MODERATOR: I'm sorry, but what is the media reporting inaccurately about the economy?

GINGRICH: What?

(LAUGHTER)

BARTIROMO: What is the media reporting inaccurately about the economy?

GINGRICH: I love humor disguised as a question. That's terrific.

I have yet to hear a single reporter ask a single Occupy Wall Street person a single rational question about the economy that would lead them to say, for example, who's going to pay for the park you're occupying if there are no businesses making a profit? (END VIDEO CLIP)

ACOSTA: And obviously, as you saw there, Suzanne, the crowd just ate it up. And part of this explains why Newt Gingrich is doing so well right now.

Rick Perry, because of his debate performances, has taken a slide in the polls. Herman Cain, it remains to be seen whether or not what has been facing his campaign will affect him. But Newt Gingrich has been on the rise, and part of this is because he likes to give it to the media just about every chance he gets. And as you saw last night, the crowd just eats it up.

MALVEAUX: Yes, we're an easy target.

ACOSTA: And we can take it. Right?

MALVEAUX: I've been in her position. We're an easy target.

Thank you very much, Jim. Appreciate it.

ACOSTA: That's right.

MALVEAUX: And Jim was mentioning Rick Perry hasn't lost his sense of humor about the tough debate performance that he had. He's going to be present the "Top Ten List" on "The Late Show with David Letterman" tonight, so we'll see what he's got for us then.

Rick Perry, certainly not the first politician to stumble during a debate. You can bet he's not going to be the last.

Here's a look at some of the past blunders.

In 1976, Gerald Ford raised some eyebrows when he said Poland and Eastern Europe were not under Soviet domination.

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GERALD FORD (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe and there never will be under a Ford administration.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry. Could I just -- did I understand you to say, sir, that the Russians are not using Eastern Europe as their own sphere of influence and occupying most of the countries there?

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MALVEAUX: What about Michael Dukakis? Kind of a flat, unemotional response to this question from CNN anchor Bernie Shaw.

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BERNARD SHAW, MODERATOR: Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killing?

MICHAEL DUKAKIS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: No, I don't, Bernard, and I think you know that I opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent, and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime.

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MALVEAUX: Coming up in the next hour of NEWSROOM, separating fact from fiction in last night's Republican presidential debate.

And then, how villagers in Alaska were hurt by this monster storm.

And talk about surf's up, a wave the height of a nine-story building. We're going to show you the amazing pictures of how one guy took on that wave.

Also, did you know a third of Americans have no Internet access? Well, how the FCC is attempting to bridge that digital divide.

We're also going to talk with a Penn State student who hit the streets in protest over the firing of coach Joe Paterno.

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MALVEAUX: The Republican candidates for president faced off in yet another debate. For two hours, they tackled questions about the economy. Our truth squad is fact-checking everything they had to say.

Joining us now, Martin Savidge, to find out between fact and fiction here.

So, what do we know? Were they truthful or not?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, let's take a look here.

There was a lot of talk, of course, about who was to blame and how we got into this financial mess we're in. In other words, the great recession.

So let's start with former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, who had this to say about the mortgage mess --

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ROMNEY: And the reason we have the housing crisis we have is that the federal government played to heavy a role in our markets. The federal government came in with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd told banks they had to give loans to people who couldn't afford to pay them back.

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SAVIDGE: All right. So let's bring it up right here. And Mitt Romney, there's the quote, really, "The federal government played too heavy a role." Basically, what he's saying is that the federal government made it too easy to get home loans. Well, we actually found that this was false. And here's the reason why.

There were a number of investigations of what triggered the financial crisis. Believe me, there have been a lot of studies. And most of those reports indicate that while government-backed mortgage giants like Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae played a role in the housing collapse, the blame mainly goes to private lenders and regulators. All right?

So let's move on to our next fact-check. This one is going to be with Jon Huntsman here. He's the former Utah governor. Take a listen to what he had to say last night.

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JON HUNTSMAN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We've got a huge problem called "too big to fail" in this country. We have six banks in this country that, combined, have assets worth 66 percent of our nation's GDP, $9.4 trillion. These institutions get hit. They have an implied bailout by the taxpayers in this country, and that means we're setting ourselves up for disaster again.

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SAVIDGE: OK. A lot of facts, a lot of dollars there. We found this one to be true, but misleading. And here's why.

The top six biggest U.S. banks do have a combined $9.4 trillion in assets, which is about two-thirds of the $15 trillion U.S. economy. But here's the part that's misleading. There's a lot of debate about that implied bailout he was talking about.

Huntsman is referring to the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill, which supporters claim could trigger an orderly liquidation, as they call it, not a bailout. So that's why it's true, but somewhat misleading.

That's how it stands right now -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: OK. All right. So it seems pretty even. We had a false, a true, and somewhere in the middle there.

SAVIDGE: Right.

MALVEAUX: OK. Thank you, Martin.

SAVIDGE: Sure.

MALVEAUX: Checking some of the other stories across the country.

Alabama's biggest county is so broke, it has now filed for bankruptcy. Jefferson County is where Birmingham is, and it is $4 billion in debt. It is the biggest bankruptcy filing in a county government in U.S. history.

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SANDRA LITTLE BROWN, COMMISSIONER, JEFFERSON COUNTY, ALABAMA: It was a decision that I didn't really want to make, but right now we were left with no other alternatives. It was our last option that was put on the table.

So it's going to be OK. It's a bitter ending with a sweet beginning. Commissioners are going to do everything they can, along with one of the best qualified legal advisers. Chapter 9 (ph), who wrote the book, is with us, and he's going to be with us, and we're going to protect the rate payers of Jefferson County.

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MALVEAUX: Tense confrontation at the University of California. University police, in riot gear, moved in to break up a group of Occupy protesters who had gathered outside a building on the Berkeley campus.

And in New York, it's a sure sign of the holiday season. Love it. The Rockefeller Center Christmas tree, it's on its way to the Big Apple. It is a Norway Spruce from Pennsylvania. It's quite big, and it's 75 years old. The tree is going to be decorated, put on display at the end of the month.

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MALVEAUX: Plenty of Penn State students are now furious.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are --

UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: Penn State!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are --

UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: Penn State!

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MALVEAUX: I'm going to ask one student about Joe Paterno's abrupt firing.

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MALVEAUX: Emotions are running sky high at the Penn State campus today. There are plenty of students who are upset that the university unceremoniously fired Coach Joe Paterno after 46 years.

Michael Page, he's a meteorology major. He is one of them. He joins us from the Penn State campus.

So, Michael, I appreciate your being here with us to kind of explain this. People watched the video, they saw -- a lot of people thought wow, what is going on at Penn State? When you take a look at what had happened last night, and you had students who were yelling and shouting, and they turned over this news van, and people were throwing rocks and bottles at police, the police responding with pepper spray, what happened there? Can you explain what that was about?

MICHAEL PAGE, PENN STATE STUDENT: Well, as you can imagine, emotions are running high here at Penn State. I mean, this is huge news for the university, and the students took to the streets last night.

It actually started right here at Old Main, went downtown, and, unfortunately, people got a little out of hand. I mean, there were thousands of students, some taking down light poles. And then you saw that news van that got flipped over.

So, it was a lot of rioting over the news that Joe Paterno was in fact fired by the university.

MALVEAUX: Is there some reflection about that today from students who support the coach, right, did not want to see him go, but take a look at that and think, wow, that happened on our campus?

PAGE: Well, and there's a lot of students who still support him. I think the common theme is that people wish he was allowed to go out in his own time.

I think most agree that he probably missed the ball and should have reported more, but I think there was a hope that he was going to be able to go out, kind of get some type of good-bye, because he's done so many good things for the campus over the years. I mean, decades of work both on the football field and off the field.

I mean, our library is named after him. So, even academically, he's really made a mark on this university.

MALVEAUX: How do you move forward now? I understand that there's going to be a candlelight vigil. There are some students who are going to be wearing blue T-shirts at Saturday's game to -- in support of people who have been allegedly sexually abused to bring up that kind of issue.

What do you do now as a student body? What do you do?

PAGE: Well, I mean, our whole university has been turned upside- down. So I think the students are trying to make a good image here, and really try to do right with this issue by the candlelight vigil, the blue-out that's going to be going on at the game, and trying to make up for some of the actions that happened last night.

That's a small group of kids, and I think the university really wants to make sure that we're on the good side of this issue, and everyone remembers why this is a big deal. It's not necessarily a football issue, per se. This is a real human issue that this university is dealing with. MALVEAUX: Do you think that all the attention on the coach, Coach Paterno, and this game that's coming up on Saturday has overshadowed what has taken place, allegedly taken place, which is these young boys allegedly sexually molested on campus?

PAGE: Unfortunately, I think the focus has been removed. I mean, Joe Pa has been the focus for the past couple of days, but we have to remember that Jerry Sandusky, who's at the center of this, is still roaming around state college out on bail.

I think that's something that's often forgot. So I would like to make sure -- and I think a lot of the students are a little upset that maybe everyone else around the country and around the world are perhaps losing sight of the crux of this issue. But everything's kind of interrelated. So it's a real tough one out here in Happy Valley.

MALVEAUX: Yes. Not so happy right now.

Michael, really appreciate your time and your perspective. Obviously, very different for you on campus there. And the country, the world is paying attention to what happens there now. So we appreciate your perspectives.

PAGE: Absolutely.

MALVEAUX: And we hope you move forward, get on this, get back to your studies, and have a good game on Saturday. Thank you.

PAGE: My pleasure. Thank you.

MALVEAUX: Sure.

The Penn State sex abuse scandal could do much more than tarnish the school's image. It could also cost Penn State a lot of money. We're going to have a breakdown in a live report from the New York Stock Exchange.

Also, CNN reporters, anchors, producers cover stories around the world. Right? Well, that means we also get some great tips for some of the best restaurants, hotels and travel spots.

This week's "Travel Insider," Patrick Oppmann takes us to a Mexican restaurant in Seattle that rents kayaks.

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PATRICK OPPMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Patrick Oppmann, in Seattle.

And one of the great things about living in this city is you don't have to go far to find amazing views of the water. Whether it's Puget Sound, or the many rivers and lakes that are nearby, it seems like you've got incredible water views just about everywhere you look.

I'm at a restaurant called Agua Verde. It's a Mexican place. Upstairs, they serve food. Downstairs, they actually rent out kayaks. The idea is you come here for a bite and then go out for a paddle. It's a unique way to get a different view of this city.

REY LOPEZ, AGUA VERDE PADDLE CLUB: But as you paddle along, you see the history of Seattle. You go underneath the old bridges and you understand -- pretty soon it starts to sort of dawn on you that, really, to get from that side of Seattle to this side of Seattle, you had to paddle.

And now people are a little bit more remote. You know, they see the water from afar and they think everything is great on the water, and that it looks good to have it there. But they are not really experiencing being on the water.

OPPMANN: For $15 an hour you can rent a kayak. The restaurant also organizes tours where you can go through locks that boats pass through. And on nights that there is a full moon, they actually have night paddles.

Right now I'm on Seattle's Lake Union, where you have amazing views of the Space Needle, and just a short paddle away from here you can go and see some of the houseboats made famous by the movie "Sleepless in Seattle." Really, you get views of Seattle from the water you just can't get any other way.

So, whether you live here, or you're visiting Seattle, don't miss out on the experience of going out on a kayak.

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MALVEAUX: The child sex abuse scandal at Penn State has not only brought down legendary football coach Joe Paterno, it could also cost the football program a lot of money.

Alison Kosik is at the New York Stock Exchange. So, Alison, tell us about the financial damage that the scandal could have.

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Sure. You know, Suzanne, this scandal itself is no doubt going to take a financial toll on the university. Just because some big companies and donors, they may not want to be associated with Penn State at the moment.

Think of big universities like Penn State as big corporations. And in any big corporation, your image, your reputation, is everything. So, one analyst says that Penn State's brand has been forever tarnished, and that means that its fundraising is likely to take a huge hit, especially since Penn State used Paterno to bring in big money to the school.

Sponsorship deals could take a hit as well, and it could affect their ability to recruit top players as well. And this is important, Suzanne, because Penn State is one of the most lucrative teams in the country. The program brings in $50 million a year. It's second in the country behind the University of Texas.

But I got to say this -- nothing compares to what the alleged victims are going through as we talk about these finances.

MALVUEAX: Absolutely. That's a very good point, Alison. You I talked to Roxanne Jones, a Penn State alum the last hour. She said she's not giving. She just doesn't want to give right now because of the scandal. Maybe later.

Tell us a little bit about what's happening with the stocks? Tough day on Wall Street yesterday. How about today?

KOSIK: Stocks look a lot better than yesterday, that's for sure. A lot of the gains have kind of fizzled out, but the Dow is still up 84 points. Those European debt worries are still going to be weighing on the market. That's really going to keep the gains in check.

We are keeping our eye on one of the big gainers of the day, one of the big movers. Crisco Systems came out with encouraging earnings, earnings that most are calling a sign of the comeback for the computer networking company. So, what you see are investors trying to focus on the positive after a really brutal day for the markets yesterday. Suzanne?

MALVEUAX: All right. Alison Kosik. Thank you, Alison.

Teachers say there is a big learning curve, a difference between kids who have a computer the home and kids who don't. And did you know 100 million kids don't have computers at home? So, now the FCC is launching this amazing program to try to bridge the digital divide.

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MARK TEMPEST (ph), CYBER ILLUSIONIST: My name is Mark Tempest (ph). I am a cyber illusionist, which means I combine magic and science to create illusions.

It's deception, it's science, technology, gadgets. Calling myself a magician evokes a certain image. Like if you're a magician, you immediately know what that is. It is a guy who does a magic trick. A cyber illusionist requires a little bit of explanation.

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MALVEUAX: New outrage over the military's handling of fallen heroes. This time, it centers on how the partial remains of U.S. troops were cremated and then treated like garbage. They were dumped in a landfill. CNN's Barbara Starr has that story.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Suzanne, the Air Force mortuary at Dover Air Force base, Delaware, now acknowledging that until June 2008 some remains of the fallen, were cremated then incinerated and buried in landfills as though they were medical waste. We're talking about bone fragments, tissue, any kind of of DNA material that's recovered off the battlefield. Not bodies.

In 2008, Dover decided this practice was not befitting the fallen. One Air Force official telling CNN, "We could have done things better." Again, the families did not know about any of this. So since then, the practice has been to place incinerated remains in urns and have the Navy dispose of them in at-sea ceremonies.

But this comes after a number of problems at Dover. After a just-concluded year-long investigation, three officials have been disciplined for faulty procedures that allow body parts to go missing. In 2008, Dover was found to be using a crematorium facility that also handled animal remains.

And there's already been that lengthy scandal at Arlington National Cemetery where graves are mismarked. In all of these cases, officials now say the problems have been fixed. But Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is certain will face more questions, questions his aides say he will want answers to about the how the military deals with its fallen.

Suzanne?

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MALVEAUX: All week in honor of Veterans' Day, CNN photojournalists turn their lenses to the men and women in the military. This morning, Jay Carpenter introduces us to Danny Ingram. Forced out of the military by "don't ask, don't tell." Listen as Ingram talks about his passionate fight for veterans' rights.

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DANNY INGRAM, FORCED OUT OF MILITARY BY "DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL": I enlisted in the military - in the Army in 1988. I was serving in a combat support unit. The policy at the time was just homosexuality is incompatible with military service. We'd all taken an oath to defend the Constitution and a policy that makes the very guardians of the Constitution disobey what it says was just wrong to everything we believed.

I was 33 when I left the military. So, I just did what everybody else does and, you know, looked for a position. It was difficult.

But I went on, and immediately got involved in the struggle to change the policy. I am a veteran of the U.S. Army. I am the national president of American Veterans for Equal Rights which is a veterans' service organization. And we are working to make sure that every member of the military is treated fairly and equally and gets full access to all the benefits that they've earned.

When I became national president, the ban was still in place and that was our main goal, was to make sure that "don't ask, don't tell" was repealed. I thought all through these years what it was going to be like when I finally got to stand up and say we've done it. And that night when we celebrated the end, it really was even more than I ever thought possible. The feeling that justice won, that the military was now able to be true to itself, to be not only the guardians of liberty, but the representatives of freedom. And that was a great feeling.

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MALVEUAX: You might take you laptop for granted, but millions of homes don't even have a computer. Now the FCC is trying to change that. We'll tell you how.

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MALVEUAX: So, how often do you get on your laptop at home? Two, three, ten times a day? Most of us, we take it for granted. But can you believe a third of all Americans don't have Internet access at home? That's about 100 million people. And to bridge the digital divide, the FCC has just launched a new program teaming up with major Internet providers to offer affordable Internet service. So, if you're a family with a child who gets reduced cost lunches at school, here is the new deal. The program includes Internet service for $9.99 a month. $10. OK. Also a computer that would be delivered to your home and that would cost $150. Joining me now is Kaya Henderson. She is chancellor of D.C. Public Schools.

Kaya, it's great to see you. Your office tells us that about 75 percent of students in Washington, D.C.'s public schools get those reduced lunches. So tell us how this program would help those kids.

KAYA HENDERSON, CHANCELLOR, DC PUBLIC SCHOOLS: Well, we think that this program could potentially be a game changer for some our most vulnerable students. We don't do anything the way we did 20 years ago. We don't bank the way we did. We don't shop the way we did. All enabled by technology.

And, in fact, we're doing school slightly differently than we've done it over the past 100 years by using technology to really unlock and unleash a lot of the resources that our kids otherwise wouldn't have access to. And being able to have broadband access at home allows our kids to have more time on task, it allows our kids to explore places and things that they might not have the resources to see. It is literally a game changer in terms of their education.

MALVEAUX: Tell us what this means, this idea of a digital divide in our country. The kids who don't have access at home to the Internet and those who do and their ability to do well in school.

HENDERSON: Absolutely. What it means is that there are lots of children who do have access at home who are getting more time to practice the skills and the techniques that they're learning in the classroom. It means that they have opportunities for enrichment and acceleration because they are using the Internet at home. There are all kinds of -- there's so much rich content on the Internet. So you can do virtual dissections of animals. We do a lot of digital reading, for example, at home with our kids, in addition to books. Our kids are looking at on the iPad or on the computer and they're unlocking books in a completely different way. And for our children who don't have access to those kinds of resources, it means that they're behind. Further, it hampers opportunities for parental engagement. When parents know what's going on in the classroom, when parents are able to communicate with the teacher quickly and rapidly, when parents actually have tools that support the work that's happening in classrooms, that they can do with their children at home, it means that their children can accelerate much more quickly.

MALVEAUX: All right, Kaya Henderson, thank you so much. We appreciate it. It's good news for D.C. Public Schools, as well as kids around the country.

Thanks, Kaya.

HENDERSON: Thank you.

MALVEAUX: Well, there are more angry words from Michael Jackson's family that are being aimed at Dr. Conrad Murray. Jermaine Jackson mincing no words just days after Murray's conviction in Michael Jackson's death.

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MALVEAUX: Michael Jackson's brother Jermaine, he's lashing out at Dr. Conrad Murray just days after Murray was convicted in Michael Jackson's death. "Showbiz Tonight's" A.J. Hammer, he's joining us from New York.

So, A.J., tell us what Jermaine is saying.

A.J. HAMMER, ANCHOR, "SHOWBIZ TONIGHT": Well, Suzanne, Jermaine spoke with Piers Morgan last night. He and the whole Jackson family are venting their anger at Conrad Murray. They've all been pretty clear that while they're obviously happy Murray's been convicted of killing Michael Jackson, they don't think he's going to serve enough time behind bars. When he is sentenced, Murray faces a maximum of four years in prison. There's a very good chance he won't even have to serve all of that time, even if he gets it.

The Jackson family is also furious over a documentary that Murray participated in. It's scheduled to air on Friday and Monday night. But Jermaine says the best way to protest the documentary is to simply ignore it. Watch what he told Piers.

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JERMAINE JACKSON, MICHAEL JACKSON'S BROTHER: We're very angry. We're angry because Dr. Murray's a liar. And he had his chance in court. He was tried by 12 jurors and they found him guilty. So anything he says is really irrelevant. He had his chance to stand up. He's a coward. He's a liar. He didn't stand up in court. And plus this had to be for money, because that's -- he must have been paid big to do this.

(END VIDEO CLIP) HAMMER: Well, Suzanne, reports are that Murray denies receiving any money for the project, but a lot of people find that hard to believe. And his credibility is not exactly very strong right now.

MALVEAUX: Yes. And tell us, Michael Jackson's son, Prince, is now in the spotlight. What is he up to?

HAMMER: Yes, we're talking about Michael Jackson's oldest son. He's endorsing the J5 clothing collection. Now this is based on the styles of the Jackson 5. He says it's going to introduce Michael Jackson's style to a whole new generation. The 14-year-old is telling CNN that he's not doing it for the money. He's doing it as a favor for his uncles, who are, of course, the four surviving members of the Jackson 5. He and his uncles autographed a thousand replicas of Michael Jackson's "Beat It" "Thriller" leather jackets, which you see right here, and the jackets are going to be sold through amazon.com at the bargain basement price of $2,350 apiece. Order yours today, Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Oh, wow. I bet you had one of those gloves. Michael Jackson's gloves.

HAMMER: I do, but I don't usually talk about it.

MALVEAUX: I'm sure. OK, A.J., thanks.

You can get more "Showbiz" news with A.J. Hammer on HLN tonight at 11:00 Eastern.

So, "The News of the World" phone hacking scandal exposed the dark side of tabloid reporting. So how do tabloid reporters get all those juicy stories anyway? We're going to take a closer look at how they operate.

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MALVEAUX: For years tabloid reporters called them the dark arts. Now because of "The News of the World" scandal, the British government is pressing for ways to clearly outlaw legally questionable tactics for getting a story. CNN's Atika Shubert has the story.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They're called the dark arts. The shady, often illegal ways of mining information, practiced, it now appears, to an industrial scale in Britain's tabloid press.

The phone hacking scandal exposed one of the so-called dark arts, listening in on private voicemail messages. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.

SHUBERT (on camera): Now the word blaging (ph) used to mean a white lie or a bluff, but it can also be illegal. In fact, Britain's Information Commission put out this report in 2006. Now they worked together with police to apprehend one private investigator who had more than 300 journalists as clients. And his specialty was blaging. In fact, he drafted a manual for trainees on blaging.

SHUBERT (voice-over): Want to find out an unlisted address or number? Try this one, pretending to be a British rail lost property employee attempting to return a lost wallet. Do not, it says, ask directly for the address or phone number as this is to direct. And be polite.

What about bank details? Well, you might play a British telecom employee trying to credit your account for overcharging you last month. To convince a suspicious customer, the manual suggests tapping out the calculations next to the phone for the subject to hear.

Then there is plain old corruption. Paying off crooked cops or other employees to gain access to car registrations, medical records or PIN numbers.

So what's the punishment for all this? The private investigator in this case received a fine of just 5,000 pounds, less than $10,000. The Information Commission wants jail time. Not just for private investigators, but also the reporters who employ them.

DAVID SMITH, INFORMATION COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE: When someone is making a business out of it, making, you know, hundreds of thousands of pounds a year, then a 5,000 pound fine is just written off as a business expense. You know, they pay it and they move on. But the possibility of them going to jail and having a criminal record, which stays with them for life, is a real deterrent.

SHUBERT: There is a loophole for journalists, however -- public interest.

SMITH: Where there's a public interest in journalists exposing corruption and they obtain information to do that, then clearly they shouldn't go to jail, they're doing their job there. But if knowingly they use deception, trickery or corruption to get hold of information as entertainment to help sell their newspapers or magazines, then, no, they should face the same criminal penalties that anyone else would.

SHUBERT: The Association of British Investigators says the hacking scandal has tainted their profession, but also says governments and corporations should allow more legal avenues to access data for legitimate reasons.

TONY IMMOSI, ASSOCIATION OF BRITISH INVESTIGATORS: (INAUDIBLE) The investigators need to be given freer (ph) access to databases to eliminate the criminality that we were aware of by these people who have been conveniently labeled private investigators because they can, because it's not regulated, but are no more investigators than a common criminal. They are information brokers. The word "private investigator" has now been corrupted and has become a dirty word.

SHUBERT: But phone hacking and blaging may be in the past. The Information Commission now fears that the insatiable demand for information is leading some to use viruses and spyware to read e-mails and obtain passwords. The bottom line, millions are made from mining information. So long as salacious headlines keep pulling in readers, there will be a demand for the dark arts.

Atika Shubert, CNN, London.

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MALVEAUX: CNN NEWSROOM continues right now with Fredricka Whitfield.

Hey, Fred.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right, thanks so much, Suzanne.