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Ex-Penn State Coach Lives Near School; Jordan's King Said Assad Should Step Down; Fifty Arrested at Occupy Portland Movement; Herman Cain Continues to Deny Allegations; Perry Laughs, Gingrich Rises; Gloria Cain Breaks Her Silence; Comparing Penn St. to Church Scandal; Chelsea Clinton Hired by NBC News; Why Women Can't Sleep; Justin Timberlake Attends Military Ball
Aired November 14, 2011 - 09:00 ET
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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, guys. Good to see you.
It's the top of the hour. We're talking about Penn State. Heroes have fallen and a community's trust is shaken, but for a brief moment, the shell-shocked college town returned to the refuge of its beloved football. Before the game, the stadium paused to remember the victims of the alleged child rape scandal that only gets uglier.
Mary Snow at University Park.
Mary, now there's reports that one of the alleged victims may be inching towards a civil lawsuit against Penn State? What can you tell us about that this morning?
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, good morning, Kyra.
Well, a Pennsylvania attorney has been making the rounds on the morning talk shows saying an alleged victim of former coach Jerry Sandusky has hired him to explore a civil lawsuit and that would reportedly include a potential lawsuit, not only against the former coach, but anyone who may not have reported any attacks and -- or aware of them. And that is still developing.
There had been a lot of anticipation that there would be civil suits filed. Now this comes as there are new questions about the judge handling the case and residents who live near a school where Jerry Sandusky lives are questioning. They're furious that he is even out on bail.
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SNOW (voice-over): When he was charged with 40 counts of sexually abusing children, Jerry Sandusky was released on $100,000 bail. One condition, the former Penn State defensive coordinator was told not to go near children.
But take a look at where his house is located.
(On camera): This is the playground for Lamont Elementary School. Right over here is Jerry Sandusky' house and from his back porch, he has a clear view of it. (Voice-over): The administrators at the elementary school say local police reached out to them following Sandusky's arrest. The district superintendent is quoted saying the school, which runs through the second grade, "has taken additional administrative action to ensure our children are safe."
To be clear, Sandusky has never been accused of harming random children. Rather, he is alleged to have molested young boys after developing close relationships with them through Second Mile, the charity he founded. Sandusky has maintained his innocence.
The road to his home is blocked off and private property signs on his lawn went up this weekend after police say a cinder block was thrown through a window. Nearby neighbors question why he's out on bail.
MELISSA ANDERSON, CONCERNED PARENT: It baffles my mind.
CARL ANDERSON, CONCERNED PARENT: I think presumption of innocence. We all like to believe in that, and we do in this country, but I think there's a level of protection that a neighborhood and a community is entitled to.
SNOW: Melissa and Carl Anderson have two little boys. Carl was such a fan of Sandusky at one time he had an autographed, limited edition copy of Sandusky's book "Touched."
ANDERSON: Immediately it's that alternates between anger and sadness, really. I mean it really is a loss of community, wholesale community innocence.
SNOW (on camera): Have you seen more police here in the last week?
M. ANDERSON: Yes.
SNOW: The Andersons, for one, want to see a steeper bail. And now a new revelation about the judge who set the bail. The judge's law firm listed her as a volunteer for Second Mile.
CNN's legal analyst, Jeffrey Toobin.
JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: The judge certainly should have raised the issue, disclosed her connection to Second Mile so that the parties in the case could decide whether they wanted to ask her to recuse herself.
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SNOW: And it's unclear whether the judge has any current affiliation with Second Mile. CNN has tried to contact her, but so far we haven't gotten a response -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: All right. Mary Snow, we'll follow it. Thanks, Mary.
And just after the bottom of the hour, we're going to look at the Penn State child molestation scandal and the similar revelations of abuse and cover up that rocked the Catholic Church. We'll talk to Dan (INAUDIBLE), the religion editor for CNN.com.
Presidential candidate Herman Cain faces accusation of sexual harassment from at least four women now. But the women who mattered the most, well, doesn't believe the allegations. His wife is now speaking publicly.
Our deputy political director Paul Steinhauser in Washington.
So, Paul, let's talk about what Gloria Cain has to say.
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN DEPUTY POLITICAL DIRECTOR: She is definitely standing by her man, no doubt about that. And this is the first time she has talked publicly in an interview with FOX News.
Take a listen to what she has to say.
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GLORIA CAIN, HERMAN CAIN'S WIFE: To hear such graphic allegations and know that that would have been something that was totally disrespectful of her as a woman and I know that's not the person he is. He totally respects women.
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STEINHAUSER: Cain has denied and fought back against all these allegations against all four women but, Kyra, it doesn't seem like this story is going away any time soon. In fact, there may be another news conference today with some more new witness to one of the -- one of these allegations of sexual harassment against Cain. He's trying to get back on the issues but, again, this story not over yet -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: And some controversy coming out of Saturday night's GOP debate.
STEINHAUSER: No doubt about it. This one is concentrating on Michele Bachmann. This debate was a CBS debate-"National Journal" debate in South Carolina on Saturday night on foreign policy and national security.
This is, I guess, an oops moment when you don't want to reply all, but CBS' new political director down there did reply to all in an e-mail that included the Bachmann campaign manager and in that e-mail the CBS News director admitted that Bachmann would not be getting that many questions during the debate.
Of course the Bachmann campaign furious over that and they're trying to, I guess, profit off of that. In an e-mail to supporters, the campaign says, "Please show your support by tweeting your outrage to CBS News and John Dickerson, that's the new political director at CBS, o or posting on Facebook to give them a piece of your mind. Afterwards, I hope you will make a donation to Michele's campaign to ensure she has the funds necessary to fight back against the liberal medial." Listen, we all remember Bachmann was on top of -- on top of the world in the battle for the GOP nomination back in June, July, August, winning that straw poll. But she has dropped. She is in the single digits now.
Kyra, one more thing, another debate coming up a week from tomorrow. Another debate on foreign policy and national security. This is a CNN debate with Heritage and (INAUDIBLE) right here in Washington, D.C., a week from tomorrow night, Kyra.
PHILLIPS: All right. We'll talk about it all week for sure. Paul, thanks.
We'll have your next political update in just about an hour. And a reminder, for all the latest political news, just go to our Web site, CNNPolitics.com.
In Hawaii the APEC summit has wrapped up for President Obama and the leaders of the other 18 nations. While they discussed job creation and the importance of the Pacific economies, it was a rebellious singer who stole the spotlight at the Saturday night dinner.
Well, the musician serenaded the group for about 45 minutes with a song about the "Occupy" movement. He even revealed a T-shirt that read "Occupy with aloha." Video is posted online shows most of the dinner attendees didn't even seem to notice.
Meanwhile, tensions are building as some "Occupy" protests enter a second month.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get back. Get back.
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PHILLIPS: This is Denver where at least 20 people were arrested over the weekend. Movement organizers there are accusing the police of brutality and attacking people even as they try to flee the area.
Christine Romans is in New York.
Christine, we're now going on two months since the protesters first descended on Wall Street and look at how it's grown and it's continuing.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: And it really does. And that is making headaches, quite frankly, for public officials who say that they feel as though there's a turning point we might have reached here in the "Occupy Movement" as more and more cities are trying to move these protesters out of public spaces.
I want to start with Oakland because right now you've got protesters in Oakland at this very moment who are bracing -- who are bracing for trouble with the police, quite frankly. And the police moving in to try to keep people off public grounds. They're forming a police -- forming a wall right now as we speak around protesters.
You can see some of these pictures here. The second and third notice to vacate have been issued. The third one came on Saturday and so right now we're following very closely the movements of the police and the people in Oakland and that's happening now in Portland more than 50 arrests were made on Sunday as police cleared two parks.
There were some 300 police officers who took part in this, Kyra. Trying to move people out of makeshift camps. Mayor Sam Adams there saying that 20 percent increase in crime has been seen surrounding the encampment. And then it's a public health issue, it's a public safety issue, that as a mayor -- that authorities there have to move people out for their own safety and for the safety of the people on the streets.
And then in Denver, 20 protesters were arrested over the weekend, 17 arrested on Saturday alone. They were moving out furniture from the encampment there. Police trying to move that out. Tensions very high between police and the protesters. There were multiple scuffles between these groups.
You've seen this video right here and lots of video taken on cell phones and taken with cameras is being shared all over the Internet by protesters to say that they feel like in Denver these police officers were too forceful. But in some cases, there is other video that also shows protesters actually taunting police and not moving out.
Two officers were injured there over the weekend. One suffered a twisted knee, the other one sent to the hospital after being struck in the head.
And then in Philadelphia, the mayor there, Michael Nutter, he said that "Occupy Philadelphia" has changed. It's not like it was in the beginning. That there are people there associated with it now who were not really part of the original movement. There was an alleged sexual assault there that -- there's been arrest made in that and he's putting more security around there. But you're seeing public officials tiring of this now, saying that we're at a turning point here.
PHILLIPS: All right. Well, we'll see if indeed we are. Meanwhile we're talking about it in 20 minutes when the markets open. Hopefully it'll be a better week for us.
ROMANS: Sure.
PHILLIPS: Christine, thanks.
And a week after criticizing Syria for ignoring its neighbors' offers of help, Jordan's king Abdullah is upping the ante. He is now saying that President Bashar al-Assad should step down after his long, bloody crackdown on opposition protesters.
Zain Verjee is following this for us.
Hi, Zain. ZAIN VERJEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hi, Kyra. This is a really big deal. He is the first Arab leader to come out and call for that explicitly, the stepping down of another Arab leader, Bashar al- Assad in Syria.
King Abdullah of Jordan spoke exclusively to BBC World. Here's how he put it, Kyra. He said this, "I believe if I were in his shoes, I would step down. I would step down and make sure whoever comes behind me has the ability to change the status quo that we're seeing."
You know Jordan has been pretty critical of this crackdown in Syria on protesters of King Abdullah in the past has said Bashar al- Assad really needs to reach out to the opposition and to create a whole new era of Syrian political life.
There are a couple of other countries, too, that have protested. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, Kyra. They withdrew their ambassadors from Syria in protest a while ago because of the crackdown. But this is a huge deal. You have -- you have an Arab ruler saying this. It's one thing if the U.S. says it. It's a total other thing when an Arab leader comes out and says, get out, step out.
A couple of other things the Arab League which is generally seen as a pretty toothless useless organization in the region, they actually surprised everyone this weekend by kicking Syria out, temporarily, of that group. The European Union is also putting more sanctions on Syria. So the whole thing here is that they're trying to put more pressure and to isolate Syria as much as they can to get Bashar al-Assad to bend -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: Zain Verjee out of London. Zain, thanks.
And coming up just days after the South Carolina debate, GOP presidential contenders will soon get back in the ring, but not everyone is coming out swinging.
Also a statue on top of Abraham Lincoln's tomb is missing its sword and it's not the first time it's been targeted by thieves.
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PHILLIPS: Checking news across country:
In New York, a march for solidarity and better security. State and city leaders are outraged at a recently discovered anti-Semitic vandalism. Last week, three cars were torched and hateful graffiti was found throughout a local neighborhood.
And in Washington, the National Cathedral opened its doors to the public for the first time since it was severely damaged by the August earthquake. Worshippers wore black netting over their heads to guard against any falling debris.
And thieves in Springfield, Illinois, make of with a piece of Lincoln's tomb. The bronze statue of a Civil War artillery officer is missing a three-foot long copper sword. The same sword was stolen back in 1890s.
Well, just two days after the debate in Spartanburg, South Carolina, Republican presidential contenders are getting ready for the next one. It's this Saturday in Iowa.
CNN's chief political correspondent Candy Crowley shows us where things stand as of now.
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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: The thing about the primary season is there's always another debate, which is handy if you messed up a previous one.
SCOTT PELLEY, CBS NEWS: Governor Perry, you advocate the elimination of the Department of Energy. If you eliminate the Department of Energy --
GOV. RICK PERRY (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm glad you remembered it.
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PELLEY: I've had some time to think about it, sir.
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PERRY: Me too.
CROWLEY: Following Wednesday's brain freeze heard around the world, Rick Perry went into comic crisis control. If you step in it, joke about it.
DAVID LETTERMAN, COMEDIAN: Number four --
PERRY: I had a 5-Hour energy drink six hours before the debate.
LETTERMAN: Oh, no.
CROWLEY: Perry's gaffe may be Gingrich's gain. The former speaker's numbers are up -- up enough to suggest he may be the next "anybody but Romney" candidate. And if Gingrich falls short of the gold, what about silver?
This caught our ear.
DEBATE MODERATOR: Based on the arc of this campaign and perhaps what you've heard tonight, would you care to evaluate Governor Romney's ability to think outside the box and change United States national security or foreign policy perspectives?
GINGRICH: No. No.
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DEBATE MODERATOR: You said so last night.
GINGRICH: We're here tonight talking to American people about why every single one of us is better than Barack Obama. And that's the topic --
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CROWLEY: So Newt had the opportunity to take a swing at Mitt and passed. Vice President Gingrich, anyone?
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PHILLIPS: And mark your calendars. For next Tuesday, November 22nd, that night, CNN will bring you a debate exposing exclusively on national security and foreign policy, next Tuesday, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, only on CNN.
Americans plan to skip the mall, the crowd, and all the frustration that goes with it this holiday. Instead, folks are planning to spend billions of dollars using their laptops and smartphones.
Plus --
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The CIA looked over my hobby and I explained to them, you know, and they said -- they said to me it's a hell of a hobby you have, Schlamowitz.
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PHILLIPS: Heck of a hobby, indeed. This guy was pen pals with Moammar Gadhafi among many others. Details straight ahead.
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PHILLIPS: Well, a lot of us had pen pals when we were younger, but not many were brutal dictators. Well, a New York man has quite a few in his address book, including the late Moammar Gadhafi.
Zain Verjee here with all the details.
And I love this CIA agent that said to this guy, you got a hell of a hobby, my friend.
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ZAIN VERJEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: He does. He sure did. I mean, you know, Fidel Castro, Moammar Gadhafi, Manuel Noriega, the Ayatollah Khomeini, this guy has something like 6,000 pictures signed, autographed and other little (INAUDIBLE) from world leaders. Even U.S. presidents, he has pictures and autographs from Reagan, JFK, President Obama, Harry Truman. That's where it all started.
But let's hear what he has to say about why on earth he does it. He's 81 years old. Listen to what Louis Schlamowitz says.
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LOUIS SCHLAMOWITZ, PEN PALS WITH WORLD LEADERS: It feels good to hear from strange people that you don't know. It's very nice of them to take the time to reply back to you. I'm nobody special, just part of history and that's the way I like to be remembered after I leave the planet.
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VERJEE: Kyra, you like to do that, write to strange people that you don't know. But he actually did it with Moammar Gadhafi back in 1969 when he took over as a young revolutionary in a coup. Anyway, Moammar Gadhafi sent him a Christmas card and then he said that he wished Gadhafi well when he came to power and then Gadhafi wrote this long letter slamming the U.S. calling it a terrorist state and how awful it was to support Israel and various autograph pictures of himself.
And Schlamowitz says that he stopped writing to Moammar Gadhafi after the Lockerbie bombing in 1988. But he did have all the stuff, and you got the CIA, the FBI, and all these intelligence officials suddenly really interested into -- with what this guy was writing world leaders.
I don't know, Kyra, if you could be a world leader's pen pal, who would it be?
PHILLIPS: Which one? I still can't believe the return letters this guy got. That's even more fascinating. That he had dialogue with some of these people. Yes, I'll think about that.
VERJEE: Exactly. That's what's intriguing.
PHILLIPS: Yes, all right.
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PHILLIPS: I'll pen pal you. See you.
Well, so much for the weak economy. A new study says that Americans are actually ready to spend some of that hard-earned cash this holiday season.
That's good news, Alison Kosik.
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Oh, yes. And the money seems to be burning a hole in their pockets. Guess how much money we're expected to spend this holiday season, Kyra? Almost $60 billion.
(INAUDIBLE) says that's up 16 percent from last year. And believe it or not, because of most of us still feel like the economy isn't growing, you know what? It is growing and that's why we're willing to spend more money.
Still, though, we're worried about money. Almost 60 percent of people are more price conscious than they were last year.
So, what are we going to do about it? We're going to go let our fingers do the work. We're going to do online shopping using our smartphones, our tablets. And it's not a big surprise. We're going to do that bargain hunting, you know. Because the job market is weaker this year, we're trying to find the best price for those holiday gifts.
So, comparison shopping -- to comparison shop, we're going to head to online. That's the best way to find some deals.
Kyra, you know it's much easier and faster than driving from the store to another store, wasting gas. So, shop online and definitely helps if you can get that free shipping -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: Oh, yes, and you can find everything online. And even get great ideas that you don't find.
KOSIK: I know. Isn't it amazing?
PHILLIPS: Yes.
All right. Let's talk about the outlook for the markets today. We're about six minutes away.
KOSIK: Right now, looking at a flat open. Looks like investors are going to be a little bit cautious. This as we're seeing leaders get put into place in Greece and Italy, because there is this realization that new leadership, it's not going to change the situation fast enough, as far as the debt situation in Europe.
So, the reality is that it's just going to take a while for these reforms to be implemented. Investors are realizing this. So, right now, it looks like we're going for a flat open as investors kind of sit on the fence in wait-and-see mode -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: All right. We'll have the numbers in just a few minutes. Thanks, Alison.
Well, Gloria Cain breaks her silence and defends her husband, Herman. The interview, next.
Also ahead, a career change for former first daughter Chelsea Clinton. Quite a switch, too, from someone you used to never hear from.
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PHILLIPS: Checking top stories now. The alleged child rape scandal rocking Penn State appears to be moving towards civil court now, as reports that one of Jerry Sandusky's alleged victims may be preparing a lawsuit against the university. Meanwhile, a school next to Sandusky's home has taken steps to ensure the safety of its students.
President Obama wrapping up the Asia Pacific Economic Summit in Honolulu. He stressed job creation during the two-day meeting.
And live pictures from the occupy movement in Oakland, California. We're getting reports just now, this hour, that some arrests were made, in addition to dismantling of tents.
Well, breaking her silence, Herman Cain's wife is speaking out and she does it with FOX News anchor Greta van Susteren.
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GLORIA CAIN, WIFE OF HERMAN CAIN: To hear such graphic allegations and know that that would have been something that was totally disrespectful of her as a woman. And I know that's not the person he is. He totally respects women.
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PHILLIPS: Gloria Cain isn't the first women to defend a husband shrouded in sexual controversy. Remember Hillary Clinton in 1992, Gennifer Flowers and her affair with Bill Clinton? Well, Hillary sort of stood by her man.
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HILLARY CLINTON, THEN-U.S. FIRST LADY: You know, I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette. I'm sitting here because I love him and I respect him and I honor what he's been through and what we've been through together. And, you know, if that's not enough for people, then, heck, don't vote for him.
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PHILLIPS: I wonder who L.Z. Granderson and Will Cain voted for back then.
You guys -- let's see, Will, wait, Will's too young. L.Z., who did you vote for?
L.Z. GRANDERSON, CNN.COM CONTRIBUTOR: Hey, wait a minute. Will's not that young. Bill Clinton is actually the first president I voted for. So, I lived through all of that. I'm not standing by my man. I'm just going to stand near him so I can be in Congress later.
PHILLIPS: Well, and that's what I -- we'll get to that in just a second.
But why do you think political wives agree to do these interviews?
L.Z., I see where you're going with this.
Will, what's your take?
WILL CAIN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, they stand by their men because it works. I would say this: Gloria Cain's decision to give an interview and stand by her man publically is actually kind of a reverse of a trend. We saw Anthony Weiner's wife and Mark Sanford's wife, the previous governor of South Carolina, that cheated on her, neglect to come out in public and stand by their men.
But, you know, polling shows the last thing voters want to see is that you've made a victim of your wife. So, if she's willing to stand by you, especially among blue collar or older voters, it's going to really resonate with them. They're going to -- that's going to lend credibility to you that you didn't do what you're alleged to do.
PHILLIPS: So, L.Z., do you think people will believe Gloria Cain?
GRANDERSON: No. Will's crazy. No one is looking at her going, oh, there's a credible source. They're looking at her and saying, there's a woman who wants to be sure that she stands by her man in this particular situation.
I don't think anyone is saying, wow, well, I don't know why she waited too two weeks to say anything, but I'm glad she's probably did now. No one is saying that. Will is just -- I don't know, he's being delusional.
PHILLIPS: Will?
CAIN: I don't know how to respond to the argument that I'm simply being delusional.
You know, I mean, history suggests that voters will listen to the wife. If she shows she's not a victim of this incidence, then they'll believe her. That's just history.
PHILLIPS: So --
GRANDERSON: It used to be -- it used to be like that. But I think the whole Hillary Clinton thing blew that completely off the roof. I mean, once --
CAIN: Last time, look, Bill Clinton was elected president. It seemed to have worked.
GRANDERSON: No, what worked is that Bill was actually a good candidate. Herman Cain is not a good candidate and now he has the allegations -- that's why he's in the predicament that he's in.
PHILLIPS: Will?
CAIN: I mean, L.Z., what he's doing is pointing to a lot of trivial facts like that Bill Clinton subjectively and arbitrarily was a good candidate while Herman Cain is not. That might be true, it does not have any bearing on whether or not Gloria Cain is credible. It doesn't have any bearing of whether or not Gloria Cain is credible.
PHILLIPS: And, L.Z., let me ask you this, any benefit to Gloria Cain in this?
GRANDERSOIN: Yes. Because she's married to Herman Cain. And, you know what? What you do want to do is show your spouse that you're there for them. In that case, I do appreciate what she's trying to do.
But I feel that a lot of people and when you look online and you see the comments by people who have seen the video, it just appears that she's saying what she needs to to stand by her husband and people don't really see her as a credible source in this conversation right now.
PHILLIPS: Will, final thought?
CAIN: You know, whether or not Herman Cain is a good candidate really isn't the point right now. And whether or not Gloria Cain is doing this for her own benefit, the fact is, we don't have any evidence that she is doing this just to benefit her husband. No evidence that she's not credible.
Right now, I would say this is probably a positive step for the Cain campaign. History suggests that when a wife comes out and shows she's not a victim, voters reward them.
PHILLIPS: You want to wrap it up, Will -- or L.Z.?
GRANDERSON: You know what? I'm going to let Will stay in that fantasy land he's in because it seems to be a happy place for him. As for the rest of us, we all know that Gloria is doing what she thinks she needs to do to be a support for her husband. I admire that. I think that's beautiful, but I don't think voters are looking at her and saying, hmm, maybe Herman didn't do it. If they had those thoughts, it's not because of Gloria's interview.
PHILLIPS: Well, we'll see how many people tune in and we'll see if it has any impact and we'll readdress this issue. Thanks, gentlemen.
And mark your calendars, next Tuesday, November 22nd. We'll see what comes up in that debate. CNN is going to bring it to you, focusing exclusively on national security and foreign policy. That's next Tuesday, 8:00 p.m. Eastern, only on CNN.
All right. At Penn State, football is like a religion. Well, now the school's alleged child abuse scandal is reminding a lot of people about the Catholic Church and its own controversy. We'll take a look at the parallels, next.
Also ahead, if you're a woman, chances are you didn't get a good night's sleep last night. We'll look at why more than half of women are sleep deprived and what you can do about it.
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PHILLIPS: Well, it was a moment of silence that spoke volumes.
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PHILLIPS: Penn State's football team and its rival Nebraska and 100,000 fans all remembering the victims of child sex abuse. Penn State, of course, embroiled in a horrific abuse scandal. So, for a lot of people, that pregame prayer called to mind the Catholic Church's own controversy and some similarities between the two.
Joining us now, CNN.com's religion editor, Dan Gilgoff.
And you actually wrote about this and we'll talk about the belief blog in a moment. But there are definitely parallels here.
DAN GILGOFF, RELIGION EDITOR, CNN.COM: There are. Some of the most striking are that the patterns follow not how the alleged abuse was allegedly committed, but also how the institutions both Penn State and the Catholic Church responded to those accusations.
So, in both cases, you seemingly had these men, these revered men. In the case of the church, of course, priests. In the case of Penn State, an assistant coach. And they apparently traded on this reverence to commit the abuse. And then, secondarily, you have how the institutions seemingly responded to these allegations.
And in both cases, what appears to have happened is that personnel reported these accusations up the chain of command, but that the people sitting at the top didn't make that final step and contact law enforcement.
PHILLIPS: Well, what's interesting, you could say college football is worshipped in that state -- looking up to the coaches, looking up to the football program. In the Catholic Church, the bishops are worshipped. The leaders in the church, the priests are worshipped.
GILGOFF: That's right. And I contacted a lot of advocates for abuse victims of the Catholic Church in recent days to get how they were responding to this scandal. And what was striking is that they said that calls and e-mails from abuse victims of the Catholic scandal were coming in. There was an in rush of calls and e-mails and that people were struck by how similar the institutions responded and particularly the hierarchy.
And the hierarchy in both cases -- this is what advocates for victims say -- were so taken and so obsessed with the need to protect the image, the sterling images that both Penn State and Penn State football had and the case of the Catholic Church, the church, that that seemed to override concerns about protecting young children.
PHILLIPS: And we've seen allegations swept under the rug, even people that knew things were going on swept under the rug within the Catholic Church. And now, this expose surrounding Penn State. But there is one major difference here. And we haven't seen that in the Catholic Church.
At Penn State, I mean, it did not take long for the firings to happen.
GILGOFF: You know, within one week of this indictment being made public, there was the president of the university and the football coach both fired.
PHILLIPS: Gone.
GILGOFF: H we are 10 years into the explosion of the Catholic scandal it first broke in Boston about 10 years ago and we still haven't seen the firing of bishops in this country. A lot of Catholics are asking after this Penn State scandal and the rapid dismissals, what's going on? Isn't it time that the Catholic Church followed suit?
PHILLIPS: Great piece. Thanks, Dan.
GILGOFF: Thanks for having me.
PHILLIPS: And you can read Dan's full piece on our belief blog at CNN.com/belief. You can also weigh in and leave a comment.
Still ahead, singer Justin Timberlake didn't disappoint after accepting an invitation to the Marine Corps ball, he did more than just show up. We'll explain.
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PHILLIPS: Checking news across country now:
Evelyn Lauder, part of the renowned Estee Lauder Cosmetic Company and the woman who helped create the pink ribbon symbol for breast cancer, has died. She passed away on Saturday from complications of ovarian cancer in her home. She was 75 years old.
A near whiteout in parts of Denver after powerful winds raked through the mountains and into the metro area. Some of the strongest wind gusts registered at more than 100 miles per hour. High winds and heavy snow were blamed for several accidents in that area.
And in Dubuque, Iowa, the owner of T-shirt shop broke the Guinness Book of World Records for wearing the most T-shirts. Tom Rauen and his friends layered on T-shirt after T-shirt until he was wearing 247 of them. How did he do it? Well, Tom was wearing just about every T-shirt size possible.
Well, it's official, Chelsea Clinton is stepping out of her parents' shadows and right into her own spotlight. Kareen Wynter joining me with the details on the former first daughter's new gig. Hey, Kareen.
KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Hi there Kyra. Talk about a high-profile gig, right? It looks like, Chelsea Clinton is about to join the fourth estate. Chelsea Clinton is joining NBC News. And Kyra, listen to what she'll be doing. She'll be contributing to stories to NBC's "Making a Difference" series on "NBC Nightly News". Those segments by the way Kyra, they focus on volunteers who impact local communities. So again, a huge move for someone who didn't seem to love the spotlight, although she's been raising her public profile over the last few years. And by the way, this job will not preclude her from her work with her father's Clinton Initiative.
So it's not the first time NBC has hired politically connected off springs. Jenna Bush Hager, for example, works for the "Today" show and also Meghan McCain contributes to NBC. Can't wait to see Chelsea in her -- her new role -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: It should be interesting.
Pop star Justin Timberlake, well he made good on that promise to attend the Marine Corps Ball and he even blogged about it, right?
WYNTER: He sure did. He had a blast. In fact, Justin Timberlake he's saying his experience at the ball, well it changed his life, Kyra. You may remember when Timberlake was promoting his recent film "Friends with Benefits". He and his co-star Mila Kunis -- they were both asked to separate Marine Corps Balls via YouTube.
So over the weekend, guess what, Timberlake he delivered on that promise. He accompanied Corporal Kelsey Di Santis to a Marine Corps ball and he blogged about the experience saying, and this is -- this is kind of cute. He said, "I knew I would have an evening that I wouldn't forget, something I could tell my friends about. What I didn't know was how moved I would be by the whole experience."
Timberlake says his experience with the Marines was like meeting Michael Jackson and Michael Jordan and he wanted to express his deepest gratitude to everyone he met. For her part, Di Santis seems like a pretty impressive Marine. She competes in mixed martial arts tournaments for fun and she was reportedly Kyra was so cool about this date, she autographed a picture of herself to give to Justin Timberlake.
PHILLIPS: That's great.
WYNTER: And next up Mila Kunis. She's going to be attending her Marine Corps Ball later this week. I don't think I could have done that. Here Justin -- here's the picture of me and autograph. I'd be a little intimidated.
PHILLIPS: Did she get a kiss good night? That's what everybody wants to know?
WYNTER: I don't know. We'll have to do some digging on that. We'll have to do some digging. But of course I'm sure Justin he's so charming. He'll probably gave her a little peck at the end of the night.
PHILLIPS: There you go, a total gentleman. Kareen thanks. All right, Kareen will be back with us next hour with more "Showbiz Headlines".
Coming up, is Brad Pitt really retiring? We're going to hear what he said in an Australian interview coming up at 10:00 a.m. Eastern.
Well, most women don't sleep well and the effects go far beyond just being tired. We're going to break down the best remedies for getting a good night's sleep rest right after this.
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PHILLIPS: All right. Hey, ladies out there. Did you get a good night's sleep last night? Well, word has it that more than 60 percent of you are actually sleep-deprived.
Our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen is here to talk more about this. Is it because we have kids and we're trying to be a mom and a wife and work and -- or is it more than that?
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: All of the above. Right, it is all of the above that explains why women get about six and a half hours of sleep on average, and the quality of the sleep is not as good as the quality that men have when they sleep. And it's all those things. You're pregnant. It's hard to sleep. You have little kids. It's hard to sleep. Menopause hits, the hormones can wreck havoc with your sleep. And I think it's just in general --
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PHILLIPS: Right, it sucks to be a woman, doesn't it?
COHEN: Right and sometimes it really does. Right, because you know the laundry and this and that and your mind is racing and there is so much going on.
PHILLIPS: Just like the hamsters. That's what I always say I can't get the hamsters off the wheel.
COHEN: Right, right. It's hard.
PHILLIPS: All right but some women are even taking sleeping pills. So can you say -- can you differentiate if they're all good, all bad, one that works, one that doesn't work? How do you address that issue?
COHEN: You know, I have heard women say that sleeping pills were a life saver for them, they were terrific, they really help them get a lot of sleep. And I've heard other women say man, I'll never do that again. That was a disaster. It actually messed up my sleep or it made me feel depressed or whatever.
So I think each woman has to make that decision for herself, but there are some statistics that one out of three women are taking sleeping pills at least several times a week. And I think you really want to think before you take a sleeping pill, because you want to have to some extent an exit strategy. I mean are you going to be on sleeping pills the rest of your life?
PHILLIPS: Yes. COHEN: You know a lot of doctors would say that's not such a great idea. So then well, what are you going to do so that you don't need these sleeping pills?
PHILLIPS: Well, so what are you advising to women? I know for me extra -- I mean, I had horrible problems trying to get you know to sleep, especially on this early morning schedule. Exercise helped tremendously.
COHEN: Yes.
PHILLIPS: Just 30 minutes of wearing yourself out.
COHEN: Exercise is huge. And so if you think, gee, well, I can exercise or I can take a sleeping pill. I know exercise in some ways is the harder route, but there are no bad side effects of exercise.
PHILLIPS: Right and a hot bath.
COHEN: And a hot bath. Right, exactly. There's nothing bad about a hot bath. So one of the things you can do too, is establish a regular routine. Don't go -- don't go to bed at 9:00 one night and 1:00 in the morning the next night. Get yourself a regular routine and exercise as you mentioned is really helpful.
Avoid bright lights at night. You know turn over that iPad, turn around the clock radio. Bright lights really are not good and it's worse as you get older. And also investigate if maybe you have a underlying problems. Sometimes it really is just because you're up late doing the laundry and then you get all keyed up, and sometimes it's because there's something else going on, a medical problem.
Also, limit your caffeine and your alcohol, especially at night. We have more tips on cnn.com/empoweredpatient.
PHILLIPS: You make it sound so easy.
COHEN: And I know that it's not. I know that it's not. Make it a priority. I mean sleep is numero uno, as we say in our family.
PHILLIPS: Agreed.
All right. Let's check on stories making news later today. The funeral for former world heavyweight boxing champ Joe Frazier is at 11:00 eastern in Philadelphia. Then at 3:00 eastern first lady Michelle Obama meets with military families and speaks at a jobs fair for service members in Hawaii at joint base Pearl Harbor-Hickam.
At 7:15 Eastern, vampire love, the premiere of "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Part 1" is taking play in Los Angeles.
All right. We're following lots of developments in the next hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Let's check in first with our Christine Romans in New York -- Christine.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, has the Occupy Movement reached a turning point? More and more public officials are growing weary of the tensions and quite frankly, the face-offs they're having with so many protesters. And that's same stuff right now as we speak in Oakland. I'll talk about where this movement is now and how it might evolve. I'll have that at the top of the hour.
MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Mary Snow at Penn State, where new questions are raised about the judge handling the sex abuse case against Jerry Sandusky. We'll have the latest at the top of the hour.
ROB MARCIANO, AMS METEOROLOGIST: And I'm Rob Marciano at the CNN Severe Weather Center. We're tracking some storms. Also tracking what's going on in outer space. Some cool video from the International Space Station, plus a Russian rocket launched last night with an American on the way to the ISS in kind of a blizzard. We'll show you that video in the next hour -- Kyra.
PHILLIPS: All right. Thanks guys.
Also ahead, Gloria Cain defends her husband. She says he totally respects women. We're going to talk about it with CNN contributor, Patricia Murphy next hour.
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PHILLIPS: All right. (INAUDIBLE) how unusual it was but it's Tebow. I mean this is the guy that's got a direct connection to God. Anything can happen.
JEFF FISCHEL, HLN SPORTS: Tim Tebow is making it happen as quarterback of the Denver Broncos, even if it's a little unusual. We're talking about going back to the days of the leather helmets. The Broncos aren't relying on his arm to lead them to victory, but whatever it is, it's working.
The former Heisman Trophy winner completed just two more passes than I did yesterday, two passes. One of is a 56-yard game winner to Eric Decker in the fourth quarter against the Chiefs. Tebow also ran for 44 yards and scored. Denver wins 17-10. The broncos are now 3 in 1 since Tebow took over.
New England back on the winning track. Tom Brady, throws three touchdowns against the New York Jets including this 8-yarder to Dion Branch. That puts the pass comfortably in front and then the defense takes over. Rob Nikovich (ph), an interception seals it for the Pats against the Jets. The final score 37-16. The Patriots are alone in first in the AFC East, a game up on the Jets and the Bills.
Speaking of the Bills, the Cowboys blew out Buffalo yesterday, but this is great. Buffalo wide receiver, David Nelson promised his girlfriend something special if he scored against the Cowboys. He gets the touchdown, so he runs all the way down to the sidelines to his girlfriend, Kelsey. She is a Cowboys cheerleader. Nelson gives her the ball. Kelsey tweeted "What a special day today was. I feel so blessed and so proud. I won't let go of it."
Someone wondering if he'd propose. No. But it's still sweet.
Talk about a tough decision. Yale quarterback, Patrick Witt is giving up an opportunity to be a Rhodes Scholar. He was scheduled to be interviewed for the prestigious scholarship Saturday but it's the same day as the big game versus Harvard. He doesn't want to miss it so he's playing and skipping the interview. Witt can re-apply next year. Hopefully he gets his shot because man, that's a tough thing to give up, a Rhodes scholarship to play in the big game.
PHILLIPS: You know what; I think any way you look at it, the kid's got everything going for him. So whatever is working --
FISCHEL: Quarterback at Yale. He's actually the all-time passer in school history. So he's definitely making it work.
PHILLIPS: Yes, his parents got to be proud.
FISCHEL: Yes.
PHILLIPS: Thanks Jeff.
