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Herman Cain 'Reassessing' His Candidacy; Lipitor to Go Generic; New Developments in Bernie Fine Scandal; Terror Suspect Anders Breivik Deemed Insane
Aired November 29, 2011 - 14:00 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: And hello to all of you. I'm Brooke Baldwin. As always, let's go. Let's get you caught up on everything making news this hour, "Rapid Fire."
Let's begin with Herman Cain. His White House hopes in serious trouble today. The Republican presidential candidate is now "reassessing" his campaign. That decision comes in the wake of reports he allegedly had some 13-year extramarital affair -- Mr. Cain denies the claims -- by an Atlanta woman named Ginger White. He says she was nothing but a friend, nothing more than that.
Cain told Wolf Blitzer just yesterday in "THE SITUATION ROOM" that he is concerned about his family.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HERMAN CAIN (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The thing that I'm worried about is the impact it's going to have on my wife and my family, because they should not be subjected to false accusations that cannot be proved.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Just a couple of weeks ago, two women publicly accused Cain of sexual harassment. He has strongly denied those allegations. And Wolf Blitzer is going to join me in a matter of minutes with more on the story today.
Also, Vice President Joe Biden is in Baghdad visiting U.S. troops as the military mission there is coming to an end. And like most top- level visits to Iraq, the vice president's arrival in Baghdad was not announced. Nearly all U.S. troops are scheduled to withdraw from Iraq by the end of this year.
And a judge today throws the book at Michael Jackson's doctor. That judge sentenced R. Conrad Murray to the maximum -- that being four years in prison -- for his role in the pop star's death. The judge really lit in to Murray today, calling him a danger to the public.
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JUDGE MICHAEL PASTOR, LOS ANGELES SUPERIOR COURT: Dr. Murray created a set of circumstances and became involved in a cycle of horrible medicine, the practice of Propofol for medicine madness. (END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: The judge also ordered Murray to pay restitution to Jackson's estate and to his children. That amount will be determined at a later time.
Thirty-five years after he went missing, a victim of serial killer of John Wayne Gacy has now been identified. William George Bundy wasn't quite 19 years of age when he disappeared back in October of '76, and his family had always believed he was one of Gacy's 33 victims. And now the DNA tests have proven that. Seven other victims though are still unidentified.
And an American man held in the disappearance of an American woman in Aruba is set to walk free in a matter of hours. Gary Giordano was behind bars for four months as investigators tried to figure out what happened to his traveling partner, Robyn Gardner. Prosecutors are appealing a judge's decision to release him. A hearing is scheduled for tomorrow, but Giordano will probably be back in the U.S. by them.
Comedian Patrice O'Neal has died. Friends and co-workers confirmed the news today to TMZ, an entertainment weekly, which got a quote from his agent. The standup comic and radio performer was a diabetic and suffered a stroke last month. Patrice O'Neal was 41 years old.
And it is day two here of voting, polling places all across Egypt. Voters stood in lines for hours and hours today, casting ballots for parliamentary seats. Keep in mind, the presidential election isn't slated until next June. This is the first time many Egyptians have ever voted in their lifetimes. The former president, Hosni Mubarak, was ousted earlier this year in that nationwide revolt.
And a lone suspect emerges in the case of a Florida mother who just up and vanished after appearing on the "People's Court."
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CHIEF PAUL ROONEY, ORLANDO, FLORIDA, POLICE: After numerous tips and investigative leads, we are officially naming Dale Smith, the ex- fiance, as the primary suspect in the disappearance of Michelle Parker.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Dale Smith, Jr. and Michelle Parker appeared together on the "People's Court" the day she disappeared. Although Smith is the only suspect -- you heard prime suspect -- named by police, he is not charged with any crime.
More fallout from the congressional Super Committee's failure to reach an agreement on the debt. The Fitch ratings agency has now revised its credit outlook for the U.S. down from stable to negative. Agency analysts say if lawmakers cannot agree on some kind of deficit reduction plan over the course of the next two years, the U.S. credit rating will probably be downgraded from AAA. Despite bad news, the American consumer is back. How about this number? A record 226 million of us went on a bit of a buying binge over this past Thanksgiving weekend, spending more than $52 billion. That is a huge 16 percent increase from last year. Retailers, obviously they're eager to see if the spending spree signals a huge holiday shopping season ahead or if it's just a temporary search for the bargains.
Big news from the NFL today and major changes for the struggling Jacksonville Jaguars. This man here, Coach Jack Del Rio, he's out, fired after nine seasons with the Jaguars. This is after the Jaguars failed to reach the playoffs on Sunday. Also, the team owner today announced he is selling, but we're told the team will stay in Jacksonville.
And you probably use Facebook, right? Well, soon you may be able to own just a piece of it.
"The Wall Street Journal" is reporting today that Facebook might go public between April and June of next year, and that IPO, the initial public offering, would value the company at a whopping $100 billion. Also, Facebook would possibly sell about $10 billion worth of shares.
Also today, Facebook settled with the Federal Trade Commission after complaints alleging Facebook repeatedly made members' private information public. Facebook has agreed to go through a privacy audit every two years for the next 20 years.
And six minutes in, got a lot more for you in the next two hours, including this --
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BALDWIN: A hundred million dollars, that's a lot of money. These three guys just hit the jackpot. So what if they seem happier? This is the story you are talking about today.
I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
(voice-over): The most popular prescription drug in America is about to go generic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I trust my heart to Lipitor.
BALDWIN: And while that may seem like good news for your bottom line, the pharmaceutical industry may be forced to change the way it does business.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our board felt that the best decision was to pursue a full restructuring of the company to make us more competitive and successful for the long term.
BALDWIN: American Airlines files for bankruptcy just before the holiday season. So how will this news affect your travel plans?
Where's the best place to live in the world? It's not here. I mean, where would you park?
Plus, look who's hitting the road for Rick Perry.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm here to lend all my support to ensure that he becomes president of the United States.
BALDWIN: The news is now.
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BALDWIN: Presidential candidate Herman Cain reassessing his campaign and will say whether or not he's in or he's out within a couple of days. All of this coming down today as this woman is coming forward claiming a 13-year affair with him.
Wolf Blitzer joins me now from Washington with our "America's Choice 2012" politics update.
Wolf, you had the big Herman Cain interview. We talked about this yesterday. This was minutes before that news even broke. You talked to him about that. I want to ask you about that interview in just a minute, but first the news.
This word "reassess," what exactly does that mean?
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Well, it's not 100 percent clear, but what he told his campaign staff on this conference call earlier, he wants to reassess what's going on right now in the aftermath of this latest accusation from this woman in Atlanta that they had a 13-year affair. He continues to deny that allegation, but he says just as he reassessed his campaign earlier, in the summer, after he lost the Iowa straw poll, after he had some serious campaign fundraising disabilities, if you will, he reassessed his chances then.
Right now he wants to let the dust settle a little bit, see if his supporters are going to be with him in the coming days, see what plays out as a result of this allegation. Then he'll make a decision on whether to go forward. But he left the impression, at least for now, he was going to continue, but it was going to be touch and go over the next few days on what would happen next.
BALDWIN: OK. Let's go back to last night, when the news broke.
So, this woman from Atlanta, she comes forward accusing him of carrying on this 13-year, nearly 14-year affair, with her. She also revealed to this Atlanta affiliate some of these phone records that she says are in fact from Herman Cain as recently as September.
First, here is Ginger White.
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GINGER WHITE, ALLEGES AFFAIR WITH HERMAN CAIN: We've never worked together, and I can't imagine anyone phoning or texting me for the last two-and-a-half years just because.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: And now I want to play some of the interview with you, Wolf. This is Herman Cain saying, yes, he knew her, but he absolutely denied having an affair with her.
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CAIN: I acknowledge that I knew the woman. I acknowledge that I've known her for about that period of time. But the accusation that I had a 13-year affair with her, no.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: So, again, Wolf, this is another one of those he said/she said. I watched your interview. I then read the transcript. And you asked him sort of three different ways, three different times, if in fact Herman Cain would drop out of the race.
What was his ultimate response to you?
BLITZER: He said he would not drop out of the race, but there was a caveat. And I think he, on the second or third time that I raised the question with him in different forums, he said, look, "If it takes too much of a toll on my wife and my family, then I would." He left that opening very clearly, but he said he was determined to campaign as long as he had the support of his family, which was uppermost in his mind, and his wife. He would go forward. But he did leave open the door in that interview yesterday that he would drop out if it was simply too difficult to continue for his family.
BALDWIN: He did. The third time you pressed him, he did leave that door open.
And as we now talk about this word "reassess," reassessing the campaign, Wolf, does this sound like the same Herman Cain who you talked to not even 24 hours ago?
BLITZER: He sounds a lot less certain in this conference call today with his staff than he did in "THE SITUATION ROOM" yesterday. He didn't say anything about reassessing, where he stands, didn't give any other earlier examples of down moments in his campaign when he didn't know if he could go forward.
Look, he's telling the staff they are going to give this big national security speech in Michigan later tonight, they're going to go ahead with their schedule. He's not going to do a lot of media, he's not going to talk about this. And he made the point in this conference call today that if the media have questions about this alleged affair, they should call his attorney, Lin Wood, in Atlanta, and get an answer from him.
He's not going to discuss it anymore. He says he's made his position abundantly clear and he wants to move on.
BALDWIN: All right. Well, we'll watch it, obviously. We'll see what happens in the course of these next couple of days.
Wolf Blitzer, thank you so much. We'll talk a little later in the show.
BLITZER: Thank you.
BALDWIN: Meantime, a possible violation of international law. The British Embassy in Iran stormed by Iranian students. Find out why this happened and now what's being done about it.
Plus, two old football rivals get into this knockdown, drag-out, canes included kind of fight. The whole thing caught on camera. Folks, these are guys in their 70s.
And sometimes you just have to let the pictures speak for themselves. Look at this with me. Yes, you're looking at it.
Families in Arizona get a chance to take a photo with Santa Claus and really big guns. That story, next.
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BALDWIN: The diplomatic face-off between Britain and Iran over sanctions got pretty ugly today. Students in Iran stormed the British Embassy.
Demonstrators were there throwing stones at the building. They broke through the front door, scattered papers, replaced the British flag with an Iranian one.
Iran's Foreign Ministry is expressing regret. Just two days ago, Iran's parliament voted to expel the British ambassador, and all of this follows Britain's decision last week to cut all financial ties with Iran after growing international concerns about its nuclear program.
And this next story, I want you to send me a tweet, @BrookeBCNN. Let me know what you think about this. This is the holiday gift for gun lovers, when you get to meet good old Santa Claus and a big old bag of weapons.
The ad in the Scottsdale Gun Club says, "Get your holiday picture with Santa and his machine gun." It's coming up this Saturday, December 10th, $5 for members, $10 for non-members.
Customers have a choice of firearms to pose with like pistols, modified assault rifles. Our affiliate KPHO says last year, more than 200 people lined up for a chance to pose with this Santa Claus.
Tweet me.
Forget swimming with the sharks for a thrill. How about flying with the jets?
Look at this. You see this small body there, farthest away? This is a guy soaring with the jets. This is the real-life jet-man. His real name is Yves Rossy. Rossy, world renowned for his aerial stunt, performed this feat. This is over the beautiful Alps.
The jetpack he uses has four engines. I think I'd want more than that.
He first jumped out of a helicopter, did some air acrobatics, flew alongside two jets, and then parachuted down. Previous jet-man stunts, you know, flying the English Channel and hurdling over the Grand Canyon.
I think the Alps, that wins it for me.
And now to this piece of video. I tweeted about this, this morning.
A quiet Canadian football league alumni luncheon turns into a fist- flying, cane-swinging brawl. Yes, cane-swinging among two septuagenarians, all caught on camera.
Chad Myers, I tell you, I saw this Jeanne Moos piece this morning. I was running, almost fell off my treadmill.
Explain how the whole thing starts, because it's like, you see a guy with a flower.
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes. It's you go to a football luncheon and a hockey game breaks out.
(LAUGHTER)
MYERS: OK?
BALDWIN: Yes.
MYERS: This is a rivalry.
BALDWIN: A grudge.
MYERS: Well, a not-so-happy grudge from 1963. These two men were on opposite sides of the Gray Cup, which is essentially Canada's Super Bowl. One guy takes a cheap shot at the wide receiver and puts him down, puts him out of the game for the rest of the game. And the quarterback isn't very happy.
These two guys --
BALDWIN: That was 48 years ago?
MYERS: Forty-eight years ago -- zero. And they took it out on each other this weekend in Vancouver flying canes. Not like hurricanes. Canes, like walker canes.
This guy had four prongs and really whacked him out. The good news is we're making fun of this because no one was injured.
BALDWIN: Right. Thank goodness. This is Joe Kapp, 73 years of age, former quarterback for the BC Lions, Angelo Mosca, 74, former defensive tackle for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.
So, if you watch it -- and I've watched this multiple times -- the guy on the left grabs kind of a flower, almost looks as though he's shoving it up the other guy's nose. The other guy -- you know, some colorful language.
MYERS: Right there. There's the flower.
BALDWIN: Yes. And the other guy says, I don't think so. And then canes start flying, glasses go.
MYERS: Now, you have to understand that, theoretically, men lose testosterone when they get older.
BALDWIN: OK.
MYERS: These guys must have had a lot of it in 1963 to have this grudge still going now. So there you go.
BALDWIN: There you go.
Chad Myers --
MYERS: Good video.
BALDWIN: -- thanks for that. I appreciate it.
Major changes here with the top-selling prescription on the market right now. We're talking about Lipitor. Complete details on these changes and what you need to know about the future of the drug.
Stay with us.
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BALDWIN: It is the pill with the pedigree, and tomorrow it goes generic. Lipitor has the title of the best-selling prescription drug ever, and now its maker, Pfizer, is losing the patent protection on the drug that lowers cholesterol.
So, CNN's Alison Kosik working this one for us today.
And this has to be fantastic news for people who take Lipitor, because this means cheaper versions of the drug. Yes?
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Exactly. And this really does mean like it's a big discount on Lipitor. I mean, you could see up to 80 percent off in some cases, especially since this is the biggest seller on a long list of brand-name drugs that are actually going off patent within the next year. So, I'm talking about treatments for asthma, for high blood pressure, for diabetes and others. All of these, in addition to Lipitor, are going generic.
Now, the chief medical officer of Medco told us what all this really means.
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DR. GLEN STEIN, MEDCO CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER: The average person with diabetes takes eight to 10 different medications every day. If you think about lowering their out-of-pocket costs, even $10 or $20 across all their medicines, savings really add up for the consumer.
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KOSIK: It definitely does add up. So, if you use these drugs, you can see these savings almost immediately.
Now, most prescriptions, they already have a generic equivalent, but in the case of Lipitor, you may be able to stay with the brand name and save money as well. Now, what Pfizer is doing is negotiating with benefit managers like Medco to lower co-pays on the brand names. That's to try to hold on to as many customers as possible.
Of course, Brooke, if you're in this situation, you should really check your plan to see which is the cheaper option for you -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: Of course. Of course. But to his point, $10 to $20, that certainly adds up over time.
KOSIK: It adds up.
BALDWIN: So, potentially good news for users, but what about the drug industry?
KOSIK: Yes. Well, you know what? They call it the patent cliff for a reason.
You know, think of yourself as part of the company. You have got your sales are coasting along, and then, bam, overnight, poof, 90 percent is gone. And for decades, in the past, drug companies had another blockbuster drug just waiting in the wings to pick up the slack, but that's not happening anymore. So what we're seeing is more consolidations and thousands of layoffs. It's leading one expert to say that this is devastating to American medical innovation itself.
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DR. JOSH BLOOM, AMERICAN COUNCIL ON SCIENCE & HEALTH: You can't remove 300,000 people, shut down facilities, and then recover. So what's going to happen is we're going to contract out our work to China, first the chemistry, then the biology. And the Chinese are going to go, well, what do we need those guys for? So they'll be doing the drug discovery work, and if we're lucky, we'll get what they invent.
Now, there is something extremely pathetic about that.
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KOSIK: Now, Pfizer alone has let go of 41,000 employees since 2005. It plans to cut about 17,000 more. Now, it opened research operations in Shanghai in 2005. It added a second Chinese R&D facility last year. But you see how the consolidation can happen just as consumers are helped out by the cost of these medications -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: Alison, random question. Do you play the lottery?
KOSIK: I do every now and then. Not lately though.
BALDWIN: OK. Stay tuned for this one, because I really never play.
I know they say you have got to play to win. So, these three investment bankers in Connecticut, they win a jackpot, and I'm talking $254 million. But, alas, there is a twist here. There are new reports coming out today that claim these bankers are just a front for a mysterious client.
You're talking about it. This story is trending today. We're going to get that for you this hour.
Also, a pretty bizarre way to help save glaciers. Find out why communities in Peru are turning these mountains white.
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BALDWIN: Today, we're going "Globe Trekking." We're going to South America to Peru and a bit of a do it yourself approach to climate change. Crews are turning these brown mountains white just to try to save these glaciers.
CNN's Rafael Romo shows us this experiment just might actually help some of the struggling mountain communities survive.
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RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): High in the Peruvian Andes where it's so dry and cold, but very little vegetation grows, life depends on one animal, the alpaca.
But in recent years, raising alpacas has become a greater challenge. Mountains covered with ice around the town of Licapa are now barren.
Shepherds like Salomon Parco say no ice means no water and no water means no grass to feed the animals.
(on camera): So how much have glaciers disappeared when you think about where you were a little kid compared to now?
SALOMON PARCO, SHEPHERD (through translator): The difference is that when I was a little boy, the mountain tops were white with snow and ice. But as you can see, they're not black. That's the difference.
ROMO: A stranger arrives in Licapa bringing hope. Eduardo Gold is the founder of Peru Glaciers. The organization's goal is to bring the ice back to the mountains. Gold's idea is very simple. If dark mountains absorb more heat from the sun, White Mountains will have the opposite effect. The solution is to make them white.
(on camera): 70.8 Fahrenheit degrees, that's at the very dark rock over here .
EDUARDO GOLD, FOUNDER, PERU GLACIERS: Now let's take a look at what happens when you point it against the rocks that haven't painted.
ROMO (voice-over): An infrared thermometer shows quite a difference in temperature between the white and dark rocks.
GOLD (on camera): This is a difference of 30 degrees Fahrenheit, about 10 or 12 Celsius.
(voice-over): A crew of five go around the mountains splashing the mixture that turns the rocks white. The mixture is not paint, but a combination of water, sand and lime. Two percent of soap is added and makes the mixture stick to the rocks and waterproof once it dries off.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): This is an experiment. It may or may not work or it may work a little. Doing something about it is better than nothing at all.
ROMO: And it seems to be working. Gold finds ice in the crevice between the rocks, something that the locals say wasn't there before.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): We had very little water. The difference this year, since we have white in the mountain, is that there is water. As you can see down there, there is a well with plenty of water and down the hill we have even more.
ROMO: Glaciers are not only crucial for this mountain region, they also act as natural dams for all of Peru from which water flows through streams and rivers in downhill valleys. They also cool down the temperature.
So far the crew has covered an area of roughly 15,000 you meters, the size of three football fields, still too small to determine if it will help in the long term.
His goal is to cover 3 billion square meters, which would be much more than 500,000 football fields. For that, he would need about $1.5 million spread over five years.
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BALDWIN: I was just writing that down because I couldn't believe it, 500,000 football fields?
ROMO: That's right.
BALDWIN: That is a tremendous amount of space. First of all though, looking at it, I guess it was the lime and the soap and the water, it's sort of starting to work? ROMO: It is working. I mean, it's incredible. The first thing I did when I got there was touch the rocks. And the difference between the white rocks and dark rocks is incredible. I said, maybe it's just me.
BALDWIN: What's the difference?
ROMO: Picture a day, a perfect day here in Atlanta at 72 degrees and then another day at roughly 40. That degree -- that difference in temperature, you can feel it on the rocks and that's what is making the difference in this project.
BALDWIN: So how long, how long will they have to do this before I guess, ultimately the goal is to cover it entirely with ice?
ROMO: The question is not necessarily how long, but how much. Right now, they only have a space of about three football fields, which is very, very small to be able to say that the theory actually works.
So you need to cover much more ground to say, it actually works. He says it's an experiment. What the heck, at least we're doing something. We're not just standing by and we're not standing by and watching these glaciers disappear.
Thirty years ago, all of that we saw just completely covered the night. Now as you say, it's completely (inaudible).
BALDWIN: It's so sad and it's so fascinating all at once. Rafael Romo, so jealous by your Peruvian trip, by the way. Thank you very much for sharing that.
ROMO: Thank you.
BALDWIN: Thank you and, now, big developments in the Syracuse University child sex abuse allegations. The Syracuse Police Department has released. They had released their timeline on the investigations there.
Also, we've been talking about this. Look at this video. This is a parking lot. Yes, this guy is having a little trouble coming and going, I guess. This is a parking lot in China. The story behind these images coming up.
But, first, great schools, excellent climates, not too much traffic, maybe better parking lots, all reason why some cities are officially the best places in the world to live.
So consulting agency, Mercer released its annual quality of life survey of the top 50 cities. This is worldwide so here are the top five. You have tied for fifth actually, Vancouver, Canada, and Dusseldorf, Germany.
Number four, another German city that host the most excellent Oktoberfest, Munich. Number three, Auckland, New Zealand. So where are the top two in the world? The answer after the short break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: Back to where we left off. We were listing the cities that are officially the best places in the world to live. Again, according to Mercer quality of living survey, tied at number five, Dusseldorf and Vancouver, number four, Munich, number three, Auckland, New Zealand and number two, Zurich, Switzerland and the number one city in the world to live in, actually voted for the third year in a row, Vienna, Austria.
And now this, we have all seen classic non-intentional parking disasters, right? We've shown you the video of driver backing smashing into the sides of a parking level several floors up.
They all have plenty of space. We want to bring to you the world's most crowded parking lot where they have very little room to park. Let's pull this up. This is according to CCTV. This is normal parking in China.
Do you see room between the bumper? I see like maybe mere inches. So with only 500 square feet to park 70 cars, imagine the mess. If you're car is in the front, behind, you break down, what do you do?
Incredibly, a parking attendant said that they've only had one accident in the last year. I hope that guy gets tipped like really, really well.
Now hours away from tonight's big game, Syracuse basketball will take the home court advantage for the first game in 35 years without Bernie Fine on the coaching staff.
The university fired Fine soon after the world heard a secretly recorded conversation between his wife, Laurie Fine and Bobby Davis, one of these three men coming forward accusing Fine of sexual abuse.
ESPN had the recording actually for eight years, but the network says it didn't release it until a second accuser, Davis' step brother, Mike Lang, came forward.
ESPN news director, Vince Doria has released a lengthy statement defending the network's decision not to take the tape to police back in 2003. I want to read part of the statement for you.
Here's what it says, quote, "It is not necessarily the journalist's role to go to the police with potential evidence that at the time we didn't believe it was strong enough to report ourselves," end quote.
Back to said audio tape. So Laurie Fine seems to suggest that she not only knew her husband had molested Davis when he was just a boy, but also allowed it to go on. Here is part of that audio tape, again, courtesy of ESPN.
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LAURIE FINE, WIFE OF BERNIE FINE: I know everything that went on, you know, I know everything that went on with him. Bernie has issues. Maybe that he's not aware of but he has issues. And you trusted somebody you shouldn't have. BOBBY DAVIS: Yes.
FINE: Bernie is also in denial. I think that he did the things he did, but he's somehow through his own mental telepathy has erased them out of his mind.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Laurie Fine's nephew said she would release a statement claiming the recording was tampered with, but that is not exactly what she told CNN's own Gary Tuchman when he knocked on the Fine's front door.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Gary Tuchman, CNN. I'm sorry to bother you.
LAURIE FINE, WIFE OF BERNIE FINE: You're not bothering me.
TUCHMAN: I was hoping to ask you - your nephew was saying that you might have a statement?
FINE: We have no statement.
TUCHMAN: You're not going to make a statement today?
FINE: Not today.
TUCHMAN: Is that tape misinterpreted, though?
FINE: I have no comment.
TUCHMAN: How come you can't comment?
FINE: I cannot comment.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BALDWIN: Gary Tuchman there. Now Bernie Fine is facing a second police investigation in Pittsburgh. A third accuser says that Fine molested him in a Pittsburgh bathroom in 2002 when he was of 13 years of age.
But Thomaselli faces sexual abuse charges all on his own and his father is calling him a liar. Bernie Fine has not been charged with anything and he has called these allegations, quote and end quote, "patently false."
Let's go Ed Lavandera standing by live at the campus at Syracuse University. Ed, the Syracuse Police Department now taking quite a bit of heat over how they are handled the abuse case, compelled to issue a detailed statement about it. Tell me about that.
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, there's been a lot of confusion as to who knew what and at what point? Obviously there have been several different moving parts of this. So the Syracuse Police Department is releasing a long statement today kind of detailing the history as they see it as what went on in this case.
They pointed back initially the headline of everything is that no formal investigation was ever carried out. They say that they got a phone call from a friend of Bobby Davis, who is the principle accuser, the first accuser in this case.
And that they had only spoken to him over the phone and at the time, the police chief said that a formal investigation would not be initiated unless that victim came in and met with the detectives, by apparently he never did or if he was able to provide names of other victims.
None of that happened and all of that language after that. There was no formal investigation. Interestingly enough, the police chief at the time, a man by the name of Dennis Duval. A man who has great history here at Syracuse University.
He went by the nickname "Sweet D." He played basketball and a tremendous player for Syracuse University back in the early 1970s, just before Bernie Fine was hired on as an assistant coach here at Syracuse University.
So that's kind of the interesting background there. We went and tried to track him down today. We found his house and we were told that he wasn't there and to never come back. So, Brooke, a lot of confusion and the other confusing part about all of this as well --
BALDWIN: Yes.
LAVANDERA: That in 2005, three years later, the university held its own investigation, but according to the university it never turned over any of that information to police as well.
BALDWIN: What about the team itself? I mean, talk about legendary, head coach Jim Boeheim we know thus far he's only issued this written statement since Fine was fired backing away from that initial, you know, strong support on behalf of the assistant coach.
Will Boeheim do you think - have you gotten any indication that after tonight's game, he will speak? He'll break his silence?
LAVANDERA: Well, this is interesting. The irony here is that Coach Boeheim, the legendary coach here of the Syracuse University basketball team lives directly across the street from Bernie Fine.
So as we've trying to get comments from the Fine family, we've seen Coach Boeheim coming and going. Last time, after all of this broke just before Thanksgiving. I was at the press con, the post game press conference, he talked a little bit about Bernie Fine.
But back then, he was still very much supporting his assistant coach. Listen a little bit of what he told us that day.
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JIM BOEHEIM, SYRACUSE HEAD BASKETBALL COACH: I've been friends for 50 years with Coach Fine and that buys a lot of royalty for me.
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LAVANDERA: And, Brooke, we expect him to hold another post game press conference. Whether or not he will take questions, we'll have to wait and see. Coach Boeheim, from what I've seen, is not anyone to shy away and that's not his reputation in the sports world.
So I imagine he will get peppered with more questions as the intensity of this story has increased since the last time he spoke after a game -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: Indeed, he will. We'll look for that post game tonight. Ed Lavandera, of course, in Syracuse. Ed, thank you.
The man accused of slaughtering more than 70 men, women and children in Norway a number of months ago will not go to prison. He will likely spend the rest of his life in a mental hospital.
Doctors say he is paranoid, schizophrenic. We're going to take a look at that case as it broke on this show not too long ago. Two minutes away. Stay here.
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BALDWIN: Anders Breivik will not go to prison. Let me just take a moment to remind you who this man is. Breivek is the Norwegian man who is the only suspect in that one-day violent spree back in July that killed nearly 80 people.
First there was the bomb that went off in central Oslo. Eight people died there and as frightening as that was, it was only the prelude to something even more sinister. Breivek then reportedly drove to this youth camp on this island, just outside the city and dressed as a police officer.
Opened fire on a crowd and killed 69 people, most of them teenagers. Here is why he will not go to prison because according to authorities in Norway today, a panel of psychiatrists determined that Anders Breivek is insane and under Norwegian law, that means he cannot be sent to prison. I want you to watch this. This was a look at the day that this all happened, the day back in July right here on this program when the horrific details were still coming into me live at the "CNN NEWSROOM".
Running scared after the explosion took out the windows of several government buildings there. In fact, inside one of those buildings was the prime minister's office. We are being told that he was not there at the time that the bomb went off, but as of this very second, at 40 people dead from that particular bombing.
Many as I mentioned still trapped in those buildings and many more are injured and what Oslo's mayor is calling a terrible day for Norway and then, hours later, a person dresses up as a policeman, walks into this youth camp attended by 700 people and opened fire. We are just getting a preliminary death toll in that attack at least nine people are dead, according to police. Police also say that the same person detained into that youth attack was seen at the same time as the Oslo attack.
We certainly didn't know the death toll at that time, but police brought him back to the island to re-enact the shooting that he confessed to. Watch that.
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BALDWIN: Anders Breivik back to the very site yesterday for this re- enactment. This is all part of their investigation. If you look closer, there he is in the middle of your screen, in that red sweater.
We keep seeing him wearing along with this bulletproof vest and a harness that tethers him to the other officers. They were afraid that he would try to escape or hurt himself. Also, armed officers were out in the water. This whole re-enactment took eight hours.
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BALDWIN: Police did say that Anders Breivik may be in a mental hospital for the rest of his life. He will still face a judge for the murder of 77 people. The trial is tentatively set for April.
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BALDWIN: We have just turned around some new video for you from the president speaking at the White House regarding the storming of the U.K. embassy.
These Iranian students stormed the U.K. embassy in Tehran. Take a look at the president.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The thrashing of the U.S. embassy in Iran, that kind of behavior is not acceptable and I strongly urge the Iranian government to hold those who are responsible to task.
They have a responsibility to protect diplomatic outposts. That is a basic, international obligation that all countries need to observe and for rioters essentially to be able to overrun the embassy and set it on fire is an indication that the Iranian government is not taking its international obligations seriously.
And so obviously we are deeply concerned about that situation and we expect to see some sort of definitive action sometime very quickly. Overall, though, I'm pleased to say that the relationship between our two countries is extremely strong, reflected not only in the relationship between our governments but also the people to people context. And I'm hoping that --
(END VIDEO CLIP) BALDWIN: And again, that was the president speaking. Again, just a little bit of context. Last week, Britain cut financial ties with Iran over the growing concerns about Iran's nuclear program and then as a result, Sunday, Iran's parliament voted to expel the British ambassador. And thus you have the storming just this morning in Tehran of the U.K. embassy.
All right, everybody loves rags to riches stories, right? But riches to riches, maybe not so much. That's the story potentially here in Connecticut. These three wealth managers just claimed the state's biggest lottery prize ever.
Apparently, they could have gotten $254 million if they got the multi payout, but they got the one-time payment so that translated into roughly $103.5 million. Not too bad. Here's the thing though.
There are some reports out there today that these men are not actually the real winners. London's "Daily Mail" online citing a family friend of one of the men who says one of their wealth management client is the actual winner.
But the three were sent out as the front because they didn't want to deal with the hassle. In fact, they seemed a little uncomfortable at the press conference yesterday. In fact, didn't say much. Watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I'm Greg Skidmoore and this is Brandon and to his right is Tim Davidson and we're the trustees. Thank you. It feels good.
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BALDWIN: He said, it feels good. Maybe you'd say more? I think I might. Let me bring in Buddy Roogow, he's the executive director of the D.C. Lottery and Charitable Game Control Board.
Buddy, here's my question number one, if I win the lottery, I'm absolutely required to come forward, show my face, come to the news conference and walk away from the conference with that big check?
BUDDY ROOGOW, DC LOTTERY AND CHARITABLE GAMES CONTROL BOARD: States are different. The interesting thing is in D.C., we have the option, we tell you on the back of the ticket, to go public with your name.
So by virtue of buying the ticket and winning in D.C., we would have the right to go public. In Maryland, where I was once lottery director, in fact, the winner can remain anonymous. So every state has a different standard. There's no national standard.
BALDWIN: So this sort of -- a bunch of us started discussing this, this morning. And we started thinking, hang on a second. So are you telling me no matter what state you're in, when you're buying that lotto ticket, you should read the fine print?
ROOGOW: Read the fine print. You know, I think lotteries want to do best for their winners. Number one, lotteries want to get publicity. It's obviously good. We sell more tickets as a result.
But we don't want a winner who is absolutely adamant about not going forward to come forward. That would obviously be a problem. In this case in Connecticut, it's interesting. It appears that they might be trying to set up a trust.
We had $140 million winner in Powerball a couple of years ago in D.C. and the winner wanted to remain anonymous and set up an LLC corporation and in that way that's how the money was delivered to that particular winner.
BALDWIN: So quickly, 20 seconds, is it legal -- I guess, this is state by state, is it legal to actually have someone be a front for you, the winner?
ROOGOW: The front would have to be a legal set up trust and that's the only way to do it.
BALDWIN: OK. Buddy Roogow, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
