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Aired December 10, 2011 - 22:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Sunset shooter.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh my God.
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LEMON: This is Hollywood, but not a movie. A real life gunman unloading on an unsuspecting a driver. Hear what the gunman told the man who videotaped the entire shooting.
Abuse of authority; new child sex abuse allegations involving one of the nation's largest sports organizations, this time the head of the organization is accused. And where is he?
The war on religion and Christmas?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People, first of all, are so trying to be so political correct that we're afraid to say anything to each other.
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LEMON: Mega church Pastor T.D. Jakes speak out on that, politics and his fellow pastor, Bishop Eddy Long's divorce and sex misconduct allegations.
Paying tribute; remembering families who celebrate the holidays without their loved ones who died in combat, our fallen heroes. It's all right here, right now on CNN.
Good evening, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Don Lemon. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.
Tonight, Los Angeles Police are trying to sort out why a gunman suddenly started shooting at passing cars in Hollywood.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my God. You all right?
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LEMON: This is at Sunset and Vine. It's one of the well most intersections in Los Angeles. Police shot and killed a gunman soon after this video was taken. He's identified at 26-year-old Tyler Breene (ph). During the rampage, people on the street scrambled for cover.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was just shooting. Like a car drove by and he just shot right into the car and was just shooting everywhere.
Cars kind of started swerving and braking. And so then at that point, I kind of ducked down behind the water fountain and then ran into the bank. And they locked all the doors.
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LEMON: This video, it was shot by Christopher Johns from his apartment. As you're about to see, Johns was able to distract the gunman, which may have saved lives. We're going to play the entire video for you now, up until the moment police fatally shot Breene.
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CHRISTOPHER JOHNS, VIDEO TAPED GUNMAN IN LA: There's a madman in the streets. Oh, my God. Your all right? There's a madman just shot people.
He's shooting people at will. He's shooting people. He's shooting people at will. There's a madman. There's a madman. Madman.
Hey you, (EXPLETIVE DELETED) Hey. Shoot me. (EXPLETIVE DELETED) Shoot me. Come on.
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JOHNS: Why don't you come up here. Come on up here, buddy. Come here. Stop being -- come on up. Let's do some (EXPLETIVE DELETED). Come on up. Let's do some (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Shoot at me. I love you. I love you. I love you, man.
Kill me. I want to die. Please kill me. I was just going to (EXPLETIVE DELETED) jump and I thought about you. I thought about you. I thought about a man shooting. You came. You came from God.
You came from God.
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JOHNS: I don't have any, man. I'm so sorry.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Call an ambulance.
JOHNS: I'm so sorry.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Call the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) ambulance.
JOHNS: I'm so sorry, man. I thought of you and you came and you shot people. I thought of you just now.
Take him out. Take him out.
Take him out. Take him out.
Take him out.
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LEMON: Well, yelling at a deranged gunman may seem to be a foolish thing to do. And I asked Christopher Johns about that. He's the guy that shot that video. Here's what he said.
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JOHNS: Down there at point blank range to the shooter, they were going get shot. They really had -- they were kind of helpless to avoid being killed. Me, I'm four stories up. If I could take any of his attention and divert it towards me, you know, any gun shots that he would shoot at me, I would have an opportunity to -- to get out of the way.
So I thought -- you know, I don't know. I just made a calculation and I thought it was a good one, that any attention I could take away from the people in the street, you know, put it on me, I could probably save my own life and save other people's in the process.
LEMON: It's unbelievable that nobody died in this, Chris. There were people who were injured. He was shooting point blank at cars. And he was holding the gun. Explain to the viewers how he was holding the gun, sort of hiding it until the cars got right up on him.
JOHNS: Yeah. He was holding the gun kind of methodically and mechanically, kind of graving around, looking for kind of -- it looked like anything that was moving. You know, you could see the red car goes by, pop, he shoots it.
I'm screaming out anything I can. I told him that he was an angel sent from God to kill me. I said that's what his mission was. I would stop at nothing to get his attention and get it towards me.
Luckily nobody died. I don't know if I could have done anything more. But I wasn't at any moment afraid of somehow being shot or killed or wounded. I was worried about the people on the street. And I had a much better opportunity to avoid death from my vantage point.
LEMON: He actually did engage you in conversation, even asking you for ammunition. Did he ask you for another gun? No, he wanted you to call an ambulance and he was asking for more ammo.
JOHNS: Yeah. He asked -- because I told him to kill me. And I said, please, kill me right now. I'm prepared to die. Because I really -- I thought that if I could engage him and at the same time, you know, make him feel like I wanted to die, it would kind of take his power away from him.
Somebody in that situation. they gain their power over people by, you know, they have a gun and they can take your life at any moment.
LEMON: He never told you why he was doing it, right?
JOHNS: No. We didn't get like really deep. I was just saying crazy things. And I wanted his attention. He didn't shoot any round at me. Some of the people in the building are mad. Hey, why did you -- why are you trying to get us shot. I said, well, if we were near the windows looking, we would have an opportunity to, you know -- if he's turning our way and pointing the gun at us, to get out of the way.
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LEMON: When I spoke with an LAPD sergeant earlier, she said Johns did do the right thing because he wasn't really in harm's way. He could have ducked. And that he did probably save some lives. As information emerges about a possible motive in this incident, we will surely let you know here on CNN.
It has happened again. Another youth sports leader is under fire, accused of molesting boys a long time ago. The details coming next.
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LEMON: The Amateur Athletic Union is responding tonight to shocking allegations that it's former president molested two boys in the 1980s. ESPN broke the story today.
Robert Dodd, who is undergoing cancer treatment, was immediately removed from his post. Here's a statement from interim president Louis Stout.
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LOUIS STOUT, AMATEUR ATHLETIC UNION INTERIM PRESIDENT: I want to make it clear that Bobby Dodd is no longer president and executive director of the AAU. The organization has no continuing contact with him. And he has no continuing association with the organization and its programs.
Finally, we are urging anyone in the AAU community who has information about any incidents of inappropriate behavior or abuse to contact law enforcement and the AAU.
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LEMON: Tonight, CNN's George Howell has the latest for us from Memphis, where these incidents allegedly took place when Dodd was a sports director at a local YMCA. George?
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Don, Memphis Police confirm there is an active investigation into the former president and CEO of the Amateur Athletic Union, Robert Bobby Dodd. This investigation started after two men decided to confront Dodd and share their stories on ESPN's "Outside The Lines," claiming that Dodd sexually abused them back in the 1980s, when these men were teenagers.
Both say they decided to speak out given the sexual abuse allegations that are playing out at Syracuse University and Penn State. Now one of the men spoke anonymously to ESPN. But one of the men, Ralph West, decided to speak on camera, saying that he was sexually abused at least six times back in the 1980s. Just look at what he told "Outside the Lines."
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RALPH WEST, FORMER MEMPHIS AAU CLUB PLAYER: I was dead asleep. I don't remember anything but waking up and he's trying to put his hand in my boxer shorts. And I jumped up straight out of the bed. And he's not there, but he's laying on the floor next to me, down by bed. You know, of course I was freaked out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did he get in the room?
WEST: He had a key. He always somehow had a key to whatever room I was in.
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HOWELL: Since the story broke, the AAU contacted Memphis Police. Again, an active investigation happening here. The AAU also brought on a new interim president. And they say that Dodd was planning to retire this month, saying that he's currently fighting colon cancer. Don?
LEMON: George, thank you very much for that. In just three days, former Penn State Assistant Football Coach Jerry Sandusky will face his alleged victims in court for the first time. They are expected to testify at a preliminary hearing on Tuesday, detailing their claims that Sandusky sexually abused them when they were young.
This week, Sandusky was arrested on 12 new counts of abuse involving two new alleged victims. The former coach was released on 250,000 dollars bail. Earlier I asked defense attorney Holly Hughes why his bail wasn't set higher?
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HOLLY HUGHES, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: The bail is to each individual crime. So it's not as if you can say well, you're charged with 16 murders, so we're going to give you 16 different bonds, you know, and increase them each time. The number is commensurate with the crime charge.
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LEMON: Sandusky is now under house arrest and must wear an electronic monitoring device. He's the force behind best selling books, movies and a church with 30,000 members. After the break, Bishop T.D. Jakes and I talk politics, the economy, sex scandals and what some call the war on Christmas.
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LEMON: Bishop T.D. Jakes is one of America's best-known pastors. His church, the Potter's House in Dallas, claims more than 30,000 victims. And his media empire includes radio, television, film productions and numerous best-selling books. The latest is "the Relationship Bible, Life Lessons on Relationships From the Inspired Word of God."
Earlier I got a chance to talk with Bishop Jakes. And I started by asking him about what seems like the annual debate over the so-called war on Christmas.
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BISHOP T.D. JAKES, POTTER'S HOUSE CHURCH: I think that people, first of all, are trying to be so politically correct that we're afraid to say anything to each other. And I think it's really unfortunate. And there are certainly some groups of people who are anti any expression of Christianity and have been and probably always will be. And though that's disappointing, that's what makes America great, that we have all of this diversity.
LEMON: Bishop, let's talk about these -- all these child sex abuse scandals that we've been hearing so much about recently, Penn State, Syracuse and on and on. There was another one today.
What is going on in our society, in our country, when you hear about cover-ups and things like this?
JAKES: You know, something, Don? This has been going on for years and years and years. It's just that with social networking and the 24 hour media cycles that we have today, it has come to the surface in a way that it has not done historically. But with one in six boys molested in this country before the age of 18, and one in four girls, this is not a new story.
These cases with Penn State and Syracuse and elsewhere highlighted, are important. But my concern, Don, is that most of the abuse that we're seeing happening in this country is not highlighted. It is not with big celebrities or important or prestigious people. It's down in the trenches with nearly 50 percent of boys being molested in homes by people that they know.
So I don't want us to demonize these people as the epitome of evil at the expense of overlooking people in our communities, our neighbors and even our relatives who have access to our children. It's time for parents to really take the sharp wake up call and build the kind of communication mechanisms with their children so that we can really check to make sure that this is not happening, not only at Penn State where we need to really stamp it out, but also in our own neighborhoods and communities. LEMON: I have to ask you this, bishop. I have to ask you about Bishop Eddie Long. You know him. I think you're friends with him. He's a fellow pastor. He leads a mega church here in Atlanta. He settled several abuse cases that were filed against him -- misconduct cases is a much -- is a better way of saying it.
His wife just filed for divorce. Your thoughts on that. First, the misconduct allegations.
JAKES: Well, I think if there was actually misconduct, we have to -- the young men involved -- and they are older men. I think it's a little different from a 10-year-old who can't speak for himself. When you get these older boys who can make decisions, old enough to drive a car, old enough to go to war, if there is a deliberate action done here, we can't take a cash settlement when we really want justice done. Because it leaves the public wondering what really happened.
Because of the judicial system that we have today, none of us are -- our curiosities are not resolved because the only people who really know what happened between the boys and bishop are the boys and bishop. Perhaps we'll never know at this point.
But we can use it as a talking point to begin to deal with how we interact with leadership and how we interact with people and what our expectations are of people. And in that way, I think it will do well.
Look, the most recent information that I have read is that Bishop Long has taken a sabbatical with his wife to rebuild his marriage and strengthen his relationship, I read due to the pressure of all of the media.
LEMON: He said last Sunday in church that he's going to take some time off to deal with the issues with his family. But his wife did file for divorce and she said she stands behind that. She said it was irreconcilable differences, so that it -- that there's no chance of getting back together.
JAKES: Whenever I counsel any couple, Don, I try to see them resolve things. Because at the end of the day, above our jobs, above our careers and everything else, I think family is really important.
LEMON: Do you know how he's doing?
JAKES: I do not know. I do not know. I did know that he had decided to take a leave of absence until I read it. But I'm hoping that they're using it as a time to cut off the phone and the TV and really rebuild their relationship. For the people who are high profile like yourself, like me, him and others, it's very difficult to maintain a private life when you're living in a fish bowl all the time.
Sometimes you have to cut off all the lights and put your priorities back into alignment. My prayer is that the Longs will use this opportunity to get that done.
(END VIDEOTAPE) LEMON: My producer said I misspoke. I said "30,000 victims." I meant 30,000 members. My apologies to the Potter's House. Bishop T.D. Jakes' book, by the way, the latest book, "The Relationship Bible." Thank you again, Bishop T.D. Jakes.
From the presidential election to the economy to the Occupy Movement there's no shortage of opinions when I want comes to politics. But we found a voice you've probably never heard before. And his rants are heating up the Internet. Straight ahead, meet Felonious Monk.
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FELONIOUS MONK, COMEDIAN: Everybody who has a loan to the federal government, (EXPLETIVE DELETED) paying it. Don't pay your budget. Don't pay your bills because they ain't paying theirs. What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) got to pay my bills for if you don't pay your bills?
I'm not doing what you don't do. You're the leader. I'm following. You don't pay? I don't pay. How about that?
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LEMON: Let's talk politics now. The Republican presidential hopefuls are debating in Iowa tonight, just three and a half weeks before the Iowa Caucuses on January 3rd. Earlier today, Newt Gingrich's campaign tried to clarify a comment he made on the Jewish Cable Network.
In an interview, he described the Middle East peace process as, quote, delusional. And he referred to what he called an invented Palestinian people. Those remarks were condemned by a top Palestinian official. And the Gingrich campaign later issued a statement that reads, quote, "Gingrich supports a negotiated peace agreement between the Israel and the Palestinians. However, to understand what is being proposed and negotiated, you have to understand decades of complex history," unquote.
The return of Newt Gingrich has revived public attention on the man who once served as speaker of the House. He'll also be a big topic Sunday in the CNN NEWSROOM. Fredricka Whitfield has a preview for you.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Don, Newt Gingrich is at the top of the political polls in the hunt for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. That means he's also the target of many attacks from the other contenders. Gingrich has had three marriages and is accused of flip flopping.
He converted to Catholicism a few years ago. So tomorrow, we'll take an in depth look at Gingrich's faith. Join us Sunday, 2:30 Eastern time, in the CNN NEWSROOM. Don?
LEMON: Thank you, Fredricka. We'll be watching.
The 24 hour news cycle is full of analysts and commentators, so-called experts giving their two cents on everything from politics and sports to scandals and entertainment. Now I want you to listen to a new voice who is saying what I think a lot of people may be thinking.
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MONK: To the government -- the United States Government. Yo, 14.6 trillion dollars, B. All my credit cards would have been cut off a long time before that. All I'm asking you all to do is balance the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) budget, B. That's all you all got to do.
We voted for you all because we were worried about gay rights, marijuana getting legalized. All these other things that we were concerned about, how can we get roads, more money for schools. You (EXPLETIVE DELETED) can't even balance a checkbook. A checkbook, B?
This is something every American has to go through every week. We have to figure what we're going to pay, what we got to put off a little bit.
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LEMON: Felonious Monk is a comedian, a writer, and now with millions of hits on his Youtube channel, an Internet sensation. I talked with him earlier to get an honest, fresh, new opinion on today's political climate.
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LEMON: Let's talk about the Occupy movement. What do you make of it?
MONK: It's unique in that I think it started -- I won't say unique, but it started from something that every major movement starts from. And that's people being displaced, people feeling broke, poor, disenfranchised, marginalized, not having a voice.
You step on someone long enough, they are going to stand up. The difference is in every other movement, even with your socialist moments, which some people are calling this and your -- I don't know what the movement is about.
LEMON: You have to admit, though, they are bringing nit caps back into fashion?
MONK: They are. They are. I'm glad for that, too, because it's cold. Actually, I wouldn't have had this fitted baseball cap on tonight if I had known that the knit caps were going to be talked about. That's cool. I've got a really nice one with a brim. It just didn't have a Yankees emblem on it.
LEMON: I made that little joke because you're a comedian. But so far, you've like been really heady about these things. So I'm going to -- I want to see your comedic side here. So I'm going to give you some words and phrases. You tell me the first thing that comes to your mind.
Here we go, first up, President Barack Obama.
MONK: What's up, B. LEMON: Rick Perry.
MONK: Nice hair.
LEMON: Newt Gingrich.
MONK: Nice jowls.
LEMON: Mitt Romney.
MONK: I'm Gumbi, damn it.
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LEMON: Monk's web series, "Stop It B," has over six million Youtube hits.
They are inspiring people doing extraordinary things. And Sunday night, CNN is honoring them. We're counting down to the CNN All Start Tribute. Next, you'll meet one of the finalists for Hero the Year.
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LEMON: Let's check your headlines right now.
As the relentless crackdown in Syria continues, the Arab League will meet this week to discuss the crisis. Activists say at least 16 people were killed Saturday. Among the victims, a doctor, who the opposition considered a hero of their revolution. The United Nations estimates more than 4,000 people have been killed in the recent unrest.
In Oslo, Norway, three women accepted the Nobel Peace Prize today and immediately dedicated the honor to women struggling for equal rights around the world. The three honorees are Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf; Lehmah Gbowee, a social worker and peace campaigner in Liberia; and Tawakkol Karman, an activist and journalist in Yemen.
Volunteers across the country remember fallen U.S. soldiers by laying a wreaths o their head stones. "Wreaths across America" has grown into a holiday tradition. Among those taking part, more than 700 state and national cemeteries, dozens of U.S. military cemeteries on foreign soil and all the sites of the September 11th attacks. About 90,000 wreaths were left on head stones at Arlington National Cemetery.
"CNN Heroes" meet Hollywood glamour. Sunday night, the top-10 CNN 2011 heroes will be narrowed down to one.
Our entertainment correspondent, Kareen Wynter, is at L.A.'s Shrine Auditorium where the countdown is on for the big event.
Kareen, who are we expecting on the red carpet you're standing near?
KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Hi, there, Don. Eventually, made our way inside. We have a special treat for you. We're inside the historic Shrine Auditorium. This is where it will take place. The stage is behind me. It looks fantastic. Take a look at all the people, the honorees that will take the spotlight tomorrow, from a chef, Bruno Serato (ph), who feeds hungry children here in California, to Derek Kayongo (ph). We spoke to him a few hours ago, Don. His nonprofit organization provides soap to basically kids, families in needy countries, more than 10 countries. Individuals making such a powerful difference in their communities. All of these faces will be honored tomorrow, faces like Diane Latiker. She joins us now.
So great to have you in Los Angeles.
DIANE LATIKER, CNN HERO: Hi. How are you?
WYNTER: I'm doing fantastic. How are you?
LATIKER: I'm fine.
WYNTER: How are the nerds (ph), one day away from the big night?
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LATIKER: Very excited.
WYNTER: She has a remarkable story, Don, as do all of CNN's top-10 heroes.
You wanted to do something, make a difference in your community, Chicago, a very tough neighborhood. You're actually pulling in kids, complete strangers off the streets into your own home. Tell us why that was so important to you.
LATIKER: It was important because I just wanted to do my small part. I just wanted to be a part of their lives and show them that we care and that we want to nurture them and help them to succeed because that's what adults are supposed to do.
WYNTER: Don, this is also a personal mission for Diane.
Growing up you wanted to make sure your lovely daughter, Iesha (ph), wasn't pulled into that crime-ridden world. Correct?
LATIKER: Right. Exactly. I wanted to do anything I could because she was the last one in the house. I wanted to make sure I kept up with her, make sure she didn't get caught up in the street. It's so easy in our community.
WYNTER: You've been getting so emotional.
Don, you see these walls are filled with faces of these heroes.
You got so emotional standing there looking at yourself. You are impacting so many lives out there. That's why you're being honored in this way.
LATIKER: I feel so honored, but I feel so humble. Look at all the people who are helping us. That's what we should be focusing on, like CNN. The world should be focusing on it so others will do the same. We need to help each other. It feels good.
WYNTER: It feels great, does it?
LATIKER: Yes.
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It does.
WYNTER: Diane, thank you so much for all your contributions.
LATIKER: Thank you.
WYNTER: And for anybody out there wondering how can I do my part? You can, by logging on to CNNheroes.com. Google is making it easy, Don. They are waiving all transaction fees. So even a dollar, no amount of money is too small in making those lives -- making a different in all of those lives out there -- Don?
LEMON: Every little bit helps.
Thank you, Diane.
Thank you very much, Kareen. Appreciate it.
The moon played a game of hide and seek. Did you catch it? We'll check out the total lunar eclipse coming up.
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LEMON: Da, da, da, time now for a Saturday night mystery starring Jacqui Jeras.
JACQUI JERAS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: You have to get you new music or we're going to have to listen to you. Like make up a new little da, da, da, every week.
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LEMON: It's tonight. Jacqui reports on a large earthquake in southern Mexico.
JERAS: Yes.
LEMON: How big was it?
JERAS: It was a scary situation actually.
LEMON: Really?
JERAS: It scared the heck out a lot of people in Mexico. It was Guerero (ph), Mexico, where this happened, about an hour and a half ago. A 6.7 magnitude earthquake and that's considered strong. That can cause a fair amount of damage. Thankfully, so far, we haven't heard any reports of damage or injuries. This is about 100 miles south of Mexico City, about 80 miles away from Acapulco. It was felt in both places. Buildings swaying in Mexico City. The mayor said no damage but some spotty power outages. We'll continue to track that.
LEMON: OK. Let's talk about something, if you live on the east coast, you didn't see, but it was a big deal.
JERAS: I know. We got gipped.
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I hate when that happens. This was so -- if you live on the west coast and woke up extra early to see this, we had a total lunar eclipse last night. Take a look at the video. Thank goodness we have video, so if you were sleeping or live on the east coast, you didn't get to see it.
LEMON: Every time I hear that, I think about, once upon a time, there was a light in my life.
JERAS: More singing.
LEMON: Bonnie Tyler.
JERAS: That was the mood.
LEMON: "Total Eclipse of the Sun" for those of you old enough to remember.
JERAS: This was the moon.
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LEMON: Total Eclipse of the Heart, was the name of the song.
JERAS: It doesn't happen that often. This was the second one this year. Unfortunately, we were unable to see that one in June in the U.S. either. This was seen very well in places like China and Japan, Australia, New Zealand and Los Angeles, Seattle, Portland. Everybody over on the west coast was able to see this. It was kind of unusual because of the angle. we were able to see a big red glow. It wasn't black the whole time. It looked like a big red moon.
LEMON: We saw the video. NASA -- what is this, a new NASA discovery?
JERAS: This is a new discovery. They are confirming a new planet has been found in the galaxy. Way out there.
LEMON: Really?
JERAS: But what they are saying it is a twin basically of the earth. And what makes it so exciting is because they really believe that there is water on this planet. It's called Kepler 22B. Go to my graphics, I'll show you some interesting statistics. 600,000 light years away. That's the biggest problem. That would take us millions of years -- (CROSSTALK)
LEMON: How much gas will that take?
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LEMON: Mommy, are we there yet?
JERAS: But the temperature is 72 degrees. It makes it a sweet spot. It feels like spring on this planet.
LEMON: Oh, wow.
JERAS: So there would be water not ice. They are not sure of the entire composition. It may be like a big water ocean over the entire planet.
LEMON: But that means life. If there's water, it's 72 degrees, there's life as we know it.
JERAS: It's possible.
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JERAS: Exactly. It could be microbes or intelligent life. Exciting confirmation from the Kepler mission.
LEMON: The mystery of all mysteries right here in Atlanta. This is a big deal.
JERAS: This is a big deal. It's one of the biggest business mysteries that I can think of, right? When you think of businesses that have secret recipes, what do you think of, Coca-Cola, maybe --
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LEMON: McDonald's french fries, all that stuff.
JERAS: They're special sauce.
LEMON: Yes. That's Burger King, isn't it. Or is it?
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JERAS: Yes, McDonald's. Definitely. Basically, they moved the secret recipe from a bank vault to the actual world corporate headquarters in their museum so you can go there now. You can see the vault. Of course, unfortunately, they are not revealing the actual recipe.
LEMON: Very cool. Have you ever had that Coca-Cola that has the real sugar in it without the fructose whatever?
JERAS: Don't think so. LEMON: Oh, my gosh, it's amazing.
JERAS: Really? That much better?
LEMON: Yes. Yes.
JERAS: You think?
LEMON: Yes.
JERAS: OK.
LEMON: I don't drink them any more though.
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JERAS: Got to be good.
LEMON: Just water for me.
JERAS: It's the only reason why you're saying that.
LEMON: Thank you, Jacqui.
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Appreciate it.
He is an international pop star. His hit "Sledge Hammer" is still the most played video on MTV. Our Shannon Cook sits down with singer/songwriter and producer, Peter Gabriel.
First I want to tell you about this. The Eurozone crisis threatens to send the world back into another global financial recession. But you wouldn't know it by looking at the stock market. Should you get out of the market before it's too late? CNN's Christine Romans and Matt McCall, from Penn Financial Group, break it down.
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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We've been talking about the Europe's debt crisis and the effect it could have on the United States. Some are drawing comparisons between Europe's potential threat of collapse and the collapse of Lehman Brothers in 2008. Here's what happened to the Dow in six months following Lehman's collapse. You can see it was a very, very rough time.
Matt McCall is president of Penn Financial Group.
Matt, there's been good days and bad days. But recently, in the face of Europe's' uncertainty, the Dow has been above 12,000. Is this your last chance then to get out when you see history like this?
MATT MCCALL, PRESIDENT, PENN FINANCIAL GROUP: Well, I look at this chart and I have a couple of different views. One, it makes me a little bit sick. (LAUGHTER)
But then I look -- it scares me. I look back in March we bottomed below 7,000. A year and a half later, you doubled your money. It's tough to time it.
ROMANS: Now that market is back up at 12,000 where it started.
MCCALL: And a lot of people are running for the exits right there in March. We're not near the lows now so we're not in that same type of predicament. There's a chance we could have a major pull back if something doesn't happen in Europe. Even here in the United States. The political landscape right now is causing a lot of concern for investors. Our confidence has been falling. The housing market is still falling apart. Last chance to get out, I don't know if you want to call it that. You have to be nimble and look at your portfolio, thinking -- if you're concerned that you're at risk, you have to start selling.
ROMANS: Let me clarify it, or quantify it. If you need the use of your money in the next year, should that money be sitting in an eTrade account?
MCCALL: You should not be in that chart right now, I'll tell you that.
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No. Your money should be in a savings account. Unfortunately, you're not getting much interest on that, maybe a half percent if anything. In the next year, you have to have cash. If you have a 20 year time horizon, Christine, sure, you could be in that chart because there's a good chance you'll bounce back several times.
ROMANS: And you could keep buying all along the way.
MCCALL: You do want to be buying in. (INAUDIBLE) on the way down.
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LEMON: Be sure to watch "Your Money" with Christine Romans and Ali Velshi every Saturday, 1:00 eastern, and again every Sunday, 3:00 p.m. eastern.
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LEMON: Listen up. You want to know about this. How about this for holiday cheer? You can really eat foods that you love over the holidays and stay in shape. You can eat more --
MARK MACDONALD, CEO, VENICE NUTRITION & AUTHOR: You can.
LEMON: -- and lose weight. That's what Mark MacDonald says. He's the CEO of Venice Nutrition and the author of a "New York Times" best seller, "Body of Confidence." He's here to explain. Here's the book. Right? I saw you on Chelsea (ph) lately. Chelsea Handler (ph). You do Chelsea (ph) saying, all right, let's see if this works. I started working with you. It actually worked. I'm eating more and I'm losing weight. How is that happening?
MACDONALD: You were so upset, initially. You're in my office. You said, it's not working.
LEMON: It's not going to happen.
MACDONALD: There's no way. The only way you can lose weight is to suffer. Starve yourself. Cut your calories. It doesn't have to be that way. The way the body works the more your feed it the right food, it loses body fat and actually makes you drop weight. So three simple things. You have to eat every three to four hours. You have to eat the right amount of protein, fat, and carbohydrates. And you have eaten a certain amount of calories per meal.
LEMON: We'll get to that. You have to eat every three to four hours. When we were babies --
MACDONALD: Think of a baby. A baby feeds on breast milk, which is protein, fat and carbohydrates. They eat every three to four hours. They stop when they're satisfied. They eat again when they're hungry. The first year of life, that's how our body is meant to be fed. We abandoned that because of society. We start moving to eating three meals a day. Every time you miss a meal -- and this is the most important thing. Every time you miss a meal, your body burns muscle, which slows down your metabolism. Makes you hungry is going into that next meal, and that's when you at the doughnuts and fried chicken and things like that that spike your blood sugar and make you store fat.
LEMON: Because you're body in starvation, which basically -- because I would go all day without eating. I would eat sometimes in the morning and wouldn't eat until 8:00 at night, I'm starving, because I'm busy and working. Most people do that. What you're doing is putting your body in starvation mode when you try to restrict -- some people try to restrict calories.
MACDONALD: What you were doing, you were starving yourself and using exercise to counter it. Then once you got too busy, and you couldn't exercise as much, your nutrition was bad. That made you start gaining weight. That's what happens to people.
LEMON: What about calorie restriction? Most people go on diets and are like, I'm just going to eat 1,200, 1300 calorie as day. You say it doesn't work. You'll lose weight.
MACDONALD: Anything can help you lose weight. The big question is this. Can it take you to that next level? Can it reprogram your metabolism and prevent you from gaining the weight back. Everybody knows how to lose weight. Most people gain it back. The way you stop that is rather than using food to lose weight, you use it to create balance in your body by stabilizing your blood sugar. That creates internal hormonal balance, releases stored fat. With the right exercise, you burn up that fat. LEMON: I couldn't believe you.
MACDONALD: I know. I know.
LEMON: The first week, it was like five pound. You're like, you're going to lose and you won believe it, because you're constantly fueling your body. My energy is off the charts now. Like during the day, I'm not like aah because --
MACDONALD: Our nervous system lives off of fuel. Feed it, your body will work for you.
LEMON: OK. But every meal you have to have a consistent balance. Last night, I went to the Christmas party. I said I'll have a couple of vodkas. And you said to do, what?
MACDONALD: If you're going to drink -- and that's why Chelsea Handler (ph) wrote the forward to the book because Chelsea (ph) likes vodka. Have your protein, have your fat, salmon, have some veggie, cut out your starchy carbohydrates. Take out the rice, potatoes. Use the vodka or alcohol instead. It's not an even exchange, but it helps minimize the damage and prevents your body from storing excess body fight.
LEMON: He told me, four hours later, after you drink at that party, you said, go home and eat fat.
MACDONALD: Eat protein and fat, not carbohydrates because that gets your metabolism going again. The biggest mistake people make during the holidays is they don't eat all day. They will have this big holiday meal. They don't eat all day that makes their body burn muscle. Then they over-eat food. Have this huge meal because they're starving. Then they go to bed on a full stomach and store all that body fat.
LEMON: So you say -- I have it here because I've got my little --
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MACDONALD: I love it.
LEMON: You say you have this little pack. What I do, if you're out shopping all day, what people should do have a shake or a bar.
MACDONALD: A protein bar. That's a great protein bar.
LEMON: Just have a protein bar.
MACDONALD: Have a protein bar. Make sure the protein and carbs are equal, not a protein bar that has a lot of carbs and a little bit of protein.
LEMON: Then why do people preach that always, because that's -- we don't know any better then -- why do we do that?
MACDONALD: We're slowly moving but, right now, we're broken. Think about it. By 2020, 70 percent of the American population will be overweight or obese. We're regressing as a society because we think eating less is better. It's never been that way from our first breathe. We have to eat more. The leaner you get, the more food you need to consume. You need to eat the right amount of food, not just a bunch of carbs.
LEMON: It's interesting because I'm thinking this is never going to work. You tell me I'm going to eat this much. I can eat this much. I don't -- because I'm used to eating one big meal a day at night and then a small breakfast and that's it. It's amazing. I eat six times a day.
MACDONALD: You're enjoying your food, right?
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MACDONALD: I get to eat whatever food I want as long as I keep in balance, as you say, and losing weight. And not that much exercise. Exercise is great, but.
LEMON: And you can have your off-plan meals too, Don. It's just understanding how to balance all of it. That's what we talk about with the holidays. You can enjoy your food. Just be great with everything else.
LEMON: Mark MacDonald. It's called "Body Confidence." It's a great book.
Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
MACDONALD: Thanks, Don.
LEMON: I can have my cake and eat it for the holidays and so can you.
Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
MACDONALD: Appreciate it.
LEMON: Up next here on CNN, our Shannon Cook goes one on one with legendary Peter Gabriel.
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LEMON: The legendary Peter Gabriel adding to his reputation as a music innovator. He recently re-imagined some songs from his catalog, re-imagined some songs from his catalog against a 46-piece orchestrate. He captured the recordings on an album he calls "New Blood." He talked about with our Shannon Cook. Take a listen.
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SHANNON COOK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Some critics might say that you're not exactly re-inventing the wheel when you do an album like this. Did you find it challenging? PETER GABRIEL, SINGER, SONGWRITER & PRODUCER: Yes. No, I think the way we did it was not the sort of normal add strings to rock band. And I think these were -- they were recreations in a way that allowed new life into the songs. And stripping away the crutches of the rock band, the guitars, rhythm section of drum, electric bass, meant the songs were very exposed and it gave them space to grow into something else.
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GABRIEL: I really didn't want to have greatest-hits record. I thought let's get an interesting journey because I'm old enough to love albums when you sit through from start to finish and you ended up in a different place than where you started. We chose songs that were textured, that would work for orchestra, that would maybe avoid some of the verse, chorus, verse chorus, rock cliches and more cliche things that went A section, B section, C section. That sort of construction.
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COOK: I guess using an orchestra affords the opportunity to get a little bit over the top at times.
GABRIEL: Yes.
COOK: And have some fun. Is there a particular song where you just said, OK, let's just go nuts here?
GABRIEL: Yes. I think -- I mean, there's a sense that -- you know, when rock stars throw an orchestra in and you're going to get all pompous, and I think we tried very consciously to avoid that. I think one of my favorite moments is a song called "Rhythm of the Heat." It began the section as an African drum group. It's an exciting, driving thing. I thought, why don't we take these drum patterns, little sequences, and throw them over on to the strings, particularly, and the other orchestra instruments.
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GABRIEL: So, to me, that's everything, is going and the kitchen sink. But it's really powerful to me. And I think it shows that what you can do with an orchestra.
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LEMON: Want to check some of your headlines right now.
Investigators in the Philippines are working to learn what caused a cargo plane to crash into a slum near Manila. 13 people were killed. Two of the victims reportedly children. At least 20 people were injured. The crash sparked a fire that torched the school. The plane reported problems shortly after taking off but wasn't able to make an emergency landing.
A cross-town rivalry got out of hand in Cincinnati. Players from Xavier and Cincinnati traded punches as their basketball game was ending. The brawl cut the game short with nine seconds left. Xavier had already put the game out of reach, 76-53, by that point. Suspensions are expected once the league has a chance to review that video.
Baylor University quarterback, Robert Griffin, III, he won the Heisman Trophy tonight as this year's best college football player. Griffin, a junior, led Baylor to a 9-3 record in the Alamo Bowl. Stanford quarterback, Andrew Luck, well, he came -- was a runner up for the second year in a row here. And he had been the pre-season favorite. Someone else won out.
A happy homecoming for thousands of sailors onboard two U.S. destroyers, a cruiser and an aircraft carrier, the "George H.W. Bush." They arrived back at Norfolk after a seven-month deployment supporting troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Family members were right there to welcome them back, all thrilled their loved ones will be home for the holidays. Very nice. Happy holidays to them.
I'm Don Lemon at the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta. I'll see you back here Sunday night. Thanks for watching. Have a good night.
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