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Donald Trump Expected to Endorse Mitt Romney; 79 Killed in Egypt Soccer Riot; Fighting Cyber Attacks; Positive Power Of Negative Ads; Facebook's Monster IPO; Police Save Man From Burning Car; Groundhog Outlook; Protests Over Soccer Riot Deaths; The Toxic Truth About Sugar

Aired February 02, 2012 - 12:00   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. I'm Suzanne Malveaux. I want to get you up to speed.

Egypt is in mourning. 79 people were killed in the soccer riots. Protesters are voicing outrage over the handling of the riot by police. Witnesses say police stood by while fans stormed the field, attacking each other with rocks and chairs. The military leaders are investigating whether or not the riot was caused by a sports rivalry or political tensions.

New scenes of the violence that is raging in Syria. This video posted online said to show rebel fighters who have captured a tank in the city of Homs. Now, the U.N. Security Council is again talking about how to end the bloodshed. Arab and Western nations want President Bashar al-Assad out, but Russia and China will not accept any suggestion of economic sanctions or military intervention.

U.S. troops will stop fighting in Afghanistan and start training and advising. The defense secretary says that starts next year.

Now, Republican lawmakers and presidential candidates not happy, saying Leon Panetta should not alert the enemy when the fighting will stop.

I talked to former NATO commander General Wesley Clark about this just a few moments ago.

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GEN. WESLEY CLARK (RET.), U.S. ARMY: It makes sense in the context of his meeting with the Europeans to lay this out publicly. It helps our European allies deal with their own concerns about how long they'll be there. It's well known we're coming out.

And Suzanne, the fundamental point is we went into Afghanistan to get Osama bin Laden. We got Osama bin Laden.

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MALVEAUX: No Facebook stock for you just quite yet, but soon. The company took the first big step towards going public yesterday, filing the initial public offering. So, it's still going to be a couple more months before Facebook shares start trading on the open market. Now, financial experts, they are putting the value of this company somewhere between $75 billion and $100 billion.

Well, there is a bright look on the national jobs horizon. Fewer people filed for first-time unemployment benefits last week than the week before, 12,000 fewer to be exact.

Now, the Labor Department released those figures today. The official jobs report comes out tomorrow morning, and economists say that they have surveyed, the U.S. economy added 130,000 jobs in January.

So, most of the United States is enjoying an unusually mild winter. That's what I like. But groundhogs splitting hairs over what is going to happen next. Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow this morning in Pennsylvania. That means, of course, six more weeks of winter.

In Georgia, cloudy skies kept General Beauregard Lee from seeing his shadow. His prediction? An early spring.

All right. He flirted with the possibility of running for president himself, but sources say Donald Trump is going to endorse Mitt Romney in the Republican race. He's expected to make the announcement today in Vegas.

Joe Johns is in Vegas with the latest here.

So, Joe, first of all, was this a surprise endorsement? Did anybody expect that maybe Trump was going to announce his own bid?

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, I mean, anything's possible. I just heard your report on Groundhog Day.

MALVEAUX: Yes.

JOHNS: One thing about Donald Trump is, Donald Trump does a great job of promoting Donald Trump, especially when it comes to politics. And it happens again and again and again just like Groundhog Day.

MALVEAUX: It kind of feels like Groundhog Day with Donald Trump, yes.

JOHNS: Right. I think the other thing, Suzanne, that is really true here is that an endorsement by Donald Trump isn't necessarily that big a deal. Pew put out a poll just last month that said an endorsement by Trump is a actually a net negative.

Sixty-four percent of respondents said it wouldn't make any difference if Trump endorsed a candidate. Twenty percent say they would actually be less likely to vote for the candidate if Trump endorsed.

So does it matter? Probably not so much if you believe the polls. But if you talk to Donald Trump, he has his own views of the endorsement.

We have a sound bite. You want to just listen? (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, REAL ESTATE INVESTOR & REALITY SHOW HOST: Well, I'll probably endorse somebody. If that person doesn't win, and if somebody gets in there that I don't really like in terms of the candidate, then we'll have to see what happens.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

JOHNS: So there you go, Suzanne. There's the bottom line.

We are waiting to hear from him. The reporting that CNN has gotten, our political director, Mark Preston, says we're being told he's going to endorse Romney. And that's where we stand.

MALVEAUX: All right. Groundhog Day with Donald Trump.

Thank you, Joe.

I want to dip into an event that is taking place. Newt Gingrich, who is in Las Vegas, he's at a rally at a place called Extreme Manufacturing, a company there.

Let's listen in.

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NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: -- are failing so badly.

Now, let me go back and say the one other place that's come up in the last 24 hours, where I really profoundly disagree with Governor Romney, is the idea of an automatic index minimum wage. If we go back to the Carter years, if we had done that in the Carter years, we would currently have massive unemployment in the European tradition and we would be totally unable to compete in the world market.

The fact is, today we have 25 percent teenage unemployment and we have 43 percent teenage unemployment in the African-American community. This is totally unacceptable.

Young people who don't learn the work habits, who don't learn that they can get ahead, who don't learn to budget the money that they earn are literally trapped out of the American dream. And we have an obligation to every American to say we believe you have an opportunity. Whether it's el sueno Americano, or it is the American dream, whether it is an Asian-American community, a Native-American community, an African-American community, a Latino community, any community of any background, we want every American to have their creator-endowed rights, among which are the right to pursue happiness.

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GINGRICH: Now, let me go back just a second to energy. There is a really practical reason to unleash American energy capabilities. The price of gasoline today is the highest it's been. This president has doubled the price of gasoline since he became president.

Now, if you're a "New York Times" editorial writer, and you ride a New York subway from your condominium to a high-rise office building in downtown New York, you think that's just terrific, because why should all those ignorant people out in America driving pickup trucks be allowed to buy cheap gasoline when they could ride the subway like you?

But if you're the rest of the country and you have to drive any distance at all, you understand that really expensive gasoline, not only does it cost you more, but it costs more for everything delivered to your local grocery store because they all come by truck and the trucks are using gas and diesel. And so every time you turn around when you have higher gasoline prices and higher diesel prices, you have higher cost of living for Americans.

So this president has managed to simultaneously --

MALVEAUX: Newt Gingrich in Las Vegas, making his case to voters before the Nevada caucuses.

Tune in to CNN Saturday as Nevada joins the race to decide the Republican nominee. Coverage beginning at 6:00 p.m. Eastern with a special edition of "THE SITUATION ROOM" with Wolf Blitzer, followed by CNN's complete live coverage of the caucus results at 7:00 with Wolf, Erin Burnett, Anderson Cooper, Candy Crowley, John King, and more.

All right. Here's your chance to "Talk Back" on one of the big stories of the day.

The president, he is a Christian. So why are his rivals accusing him of waging war on religion?

Carol Costello joining us from Washington.

Carol, do we think this is political, people get riled up about this, or is this real?

CAROL COSTELLO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's partly political and part very real, depending on where you're coming from.

President Obama addressed the National Prayer Breakfast audience, telling the crowd he believes.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I have fallen on my knees with great regularity since that moment, asking God for guidance not just in my personal life and my Christian walk, but in the life of this nation and in the values that hold us together and keep us strong. I know that he will guide us. He always has and he always will. (END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: But some religious leaders across the country are accusing the president of waging a war on religion. Why? Because the Obama administration will continue to require employers to include birth control in their health care plans. That includes employers like Catholic hospitals and Catholic universities.

The Catholic Church is angry over this policy because the Church opposes contraception for religious reasons.

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ARCHBISHOP DONALD WUERL, WASHINGTON: Our Catholic institutions that serve this nation well are being told you, who find these things offensive, you should pay for them. In fact, you must pay for them.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COSTELLO: Republicans take Mr. Obama's decision one step farther.

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GINGRICH: The Obama administration is engaged in a war against religion. Their decision last week that they would impose on every Catholic institution, every Jewish institution, every Protestant institution the Obamacare standard of what you have to buy as insurance is a direct violation of freedom of religion and an example of the increasingly dictatorial attitude of this administration. And Cardinal Dolan (ph) has said this is a direct assault on freedom of religion on America and a complete violation of our First Amendment rights.

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COSTELLO: The Obama administration, in essence, says it's not waging a war against religion. The point here, not everyone who works at a Catholic university or a Catholic hospital is Catholic. To deny them insurance coverage because of someone else's religious beliefs would amount to discrimination.

So, the "Talk Back" question today: Is the Obama administration waging war on religion?

Facebook.com/CarolCNN. I'll read your responses later this hour.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thank you, Carol.

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MALVEAUX: At least 60 people face charges today in connection with one of Canada's largest child pornography busts in history. Canadian authorities announced that the arrests today followed raids throughout Ontario. Police say at least 22 children were involved. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DET. SGT. FRANK GOLDSCHMIDT, ONTARIO PROVINCIAL POLICE: It's a way to raise the issue, to let everybody know, through the media, the scope of the problem and the problems of Ontario. We also want the people of Ontario and the government of Ontario to know that we are out there, we are doing our jobs. And we want to make sure that everybody knows that it's a very serious problem.

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MALVEAUX: Just an awful story. More charges are actually expected.

And Egypt is reeling from one of the worst sporting disasters in the world. Seventy-nine people killed in a soccer riot. Protesters are voicing outrage over how the police handled all this. A nationwide mourning period is now under way.

Our Ian Lee, he is outside the stadium in Port Said.

And Ian, you saw the aftermath. I mean, tell us what happened.

IAN LEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, what happened was that at the end of the game last night, Suzanne, protesters, fans from the Al-Masry section, broke into the police cordoned, broke in and moved towards the other side of the stand where the opposing fans were. And they had knifes with them, they had weapons with them, and they attacked the other fans.

The fans were essentially -- the other fans were essentially trapped in the stadium. They couldn't flee because the gate that opened out to the outside was shut. It was padlocked shut. So they were trapped, and that's why we are seeing such a large death toll.

I went into the stadium earlier today, and I saw blood all over the seats. We saw shoes, people running out of their shoes trying to flee.

And probably the most striking thing were the big metal doors that were shut, padlock shut. They were actually pushed out. They were broken away from the building, ripped from the building as the surge broke free. And that's where a lot of people said that a lot of the fans died, was trying to escape, being crushed and suffocated at that point -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: And what were the police doing, Ian?

LEE: Well, that's the one thing that a lot of people are asking. Where were the police in all of this?

And if you look at the video, it looks like the police were just standing by idly and talking to witnesses who were there. They said that the police let the fans go through the other side. They didn't stop them, and right now a lot of people are asking for someone to be accountable for this.

And the head of security in the country was sacked for this. But there are still a lot of questions.

People here in the city say that this wasn't their true fans. They think there's a conspiracy going on right now, and they are wondering who was behind this conspiracy.

MALVEAUX: All right. Ian, thank you very much. And competing there with the call to prayer. Thank you. Appreciate your report.

So, when you hear the word "hacker," you might think about credit cards, e-mail accounts. But now intelligence officials, they are warning that cyber attacks could soon be this country's number one security threat.

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REP. MIKE ROGERS (R), INTELLIGENCE CHAIRMAN: We will suffer a catastrophic cyber attack. The clock is ticking and winding down.

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MALVEAUX: Suzanne Kelly, she is joining us from Washington.

Suzanne, that sounds pretty alarming, when you hear something like that. What do we think is the worst-case scenario when it comes to cyber attacks?

SUZANNE KELLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the worst case, obviously, is going to be something that attacks critical infrastructure. So, for example, our air traffic control systems, our power grids, maybe even our nuclear facilities. Something could cause an almost instantaneously loss of life is gong to be the worst-case scenario.

But you shouldn't discount the economic impact either. When you look at companies who are investing hundreds of millions of dollars in research and development, and those trade secrets are being stolen and used to run those companies out of business, those are companies that employ a lot of people in this country. So there is a downside no matter how you look at it, and now it's just a question of what people are going to do about it.

MALVEAUX: And we saw two weeks ago the group Anonymous taking credit for bringing down the FBI's, the Justice Department's Web sites. I mean, that is pretty incredible.

Do we think that this is pretty widespread, this type of threat?

KELLY: Hugely widespread.

So, last year, we also saw one of the leading Internet security companies, the people you go to, to keep you safe online, hacked. We saw the Department of Defense hacked, a major defense and intelligence contractor hacked.

So it is a widespread problem, and it's something that lawmakers and the administration have yet to really solidly get their hands around. And you've seen that come to head this week in Washington. There was even a classified meeting held yesterday between Obama's top people on this, 12 different agencies represented, his senior people, and senators who are sort of doing a little bit of finger-pointing, who said, look, we just need -- we have some 30 bills out there now, we need to get something passed and we need to do something about it.

MALVEAUX: And Suzanne, is this a tough thing to do, to launch a cyber attack? Is it sophisticated, or could you have just a lone terrorist on a laptop do something?

KELLY: It's a great question. And if you think about cyber, one of the biggest challenges is sort of getting your head around what it really means.

But if you think about when you go home tonight and you go to bed, do you lock your front door? Do you lock your windows? Do you have an alarm system? How easy are you making it for people to get in?

So, obviously, Suzanne, if someone wanted to hack into a simple account held by a private person like you or I or anybody else, it wouldn't be that difficult to do. But if you were hacking into the Department of Defense, it would be a lot tougher to do. But people are still doing it, which is why this issue really should be getting a lot more attention.

MALVEAUX: Wow. Yes.

That's a great way to put it. I mean, you really make it understandable when you talk about, do you lock your door, do you have an alarm system?

KELLY: Yes, exactly.

MALVEAUX: Check on all three. But do you have it for your accounts and what is on the Internet?

KELLY: Right.

MALVEAUX: Suzanne, thank you. Appreciate that.

Selling on the Super Bowl. This Sunday, companies shelling out millions to advertise their products during the game. But is it going to bring in the sales? We're going to take a look.

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MALVEAUX: Super Bowl Sunday. That's right. It means Monday we're all going to be talking about our favorite commercials.

How does a popular ad turn into big sales for these products being advertised?

Felicia Taylor, she's at the New York Stock Exchange.

So, Felicia, I don't know. I watch these commercials. I love them. But I'm not going to go out and buy a new car, for instance. I'm just going to enjoy the commercial. Does it work?

FELICIA TAYLOR, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, Suzanne, you're not alone. I mean, that's exactly the point.

These days, advertising on TV just simply isn't enough. It's also about the Internet, and a lot of Sunday's commercials are already online.

We spoke to one marketing expert, Mark Stevens, who said advertising during the Super Bowl is a popularity contest and actually does very little to sell a product. Like you said, you're not convinced to go out and buy a car.

For example, one ad like this set to ad Sunday from Cars.com has a guy with two heads talking to a dealer about buying a car while his smaller head sings. I mean, frankly, it's just plain weird. Mark Stevens claims it's also a waste of ad dollars.

MALVEAUX: It looks totally weird, Felicia. I don't even understand that. It looks totally goofy.

What about these other advertisers, Coca-Cola, Budweiser, Doritos? I assume that they're all going to be out there.

TAYLOR: Yes. I mean, Stevens says you need a really strong message that resonates long after the Super Bowl ends.

You need to make sure that the product is the thing that people actually remember. So, obviously, Coca-Cola, Budweiser, Doritos, I mean, these are companies that have very deep pockets, large ad budgets. They can afford to spend millions of dollars. Stevens says that's fine, but the primary purpose of the ad isn't to boost sales.

Take a listen.

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MARK STEVENS, MARKETING EXPERT: There is a place for Super Bowl advertising in a well-rounded company like Anheuser-Busch. Budweiser is a very well-managed business. They don't rely on the Super Bowl to be their primary driver of success. Generally speaking, from what I've seen -- and I've studied this -- they do not return the investment. It's not really an investment, it's a cost, because they don't return the cost of the Super Bowl commercial. But what it does, however, is make the company or the advertising agency feel good as a pride factor.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

TAYLOR: So, frankly, the real winner from all of this, from a marketing standpoint, is the NFL and the network airing the game. The Super Bowl continues to get a huge audience. That means the networks can keep raising ad prices. Prices this year are $3.5 million to $4 million for 30 seconds. MALVEAUX: I guess I'm paying attention to the commercials. I don't pay attention to the game that much. I just pay attention to the commercials.

All right. Felicia, thanks.

So, you know, if the Super Bowl commercials, if it doesn't interest you, if the game doesn't interest you, there's always the half-time show. And this year star, the Material Girl herself, Madonna. No stranger to the stage, but she admits to Anderson Cooper that she's a little nervous.

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST, "AC 360": Are you nervous about doing the Super Bowl?

MADONNA, SINGER: Oh, my God. I'm so nervous. You have no idea.

COOPER: Really?

MADONNA: I am, yes.

(APPLAUSE)

MADONNA: Yes. I mean, first of all, it's the Super Bowl.

I mean, the Super Bowl is kind of like the holy of holies in America, right? So, like, here I am, I'm going to come into, like, halfway between the church, the church experience, and I'm going to have to deliver a sermon. It's going to have to be very impactful, right?

I have to put on the greatest show on earth in the middle of the greatest show on earth. I have eight minutes to set it up and seven minutes to take it down, and 12 minutes to put on the greatest show on earth. OK, that's a lot of pressure.

(APPLAUSE)

COOPER: Do you have any hints of what you're going to be doing?

MADONNA: I'll be singing.

(LAUGHTER)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MALVEAUX: All right. She takes it pretty seriously there.

You can hear Anderson's full interview with Madonna today on Anderson.

So, he's not going to be performing or playing in the Super Bowl this year, but Tim Tebow got a lot of attention during the NFL season. The Denver Broncos starting quarterback went from the benchwarmer to most popular athlete in the country, at record pace. So, tomorrow, in the noon hour, he's going to join us live from Indianapolis. We're going to ask him about his amazing year, who he thinks is going to win the Super Bowl, his background, of course his faith.

Again, that is tomorrow, in the noon hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Can't wait.

One media group calls the Florida Republican primary the most negative campaign ad ever. The TV ad battle between Romney and Gingrich got downright dirty. We're going to talk with a psychologist about negative ads and why they work.

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MALVEAUX: Here's a rundown of some of the stories that we are working on.

Almost every campaign ad before the Florida primary was negative. We are talking about almost every one of them. Let's talk about whether voters are energized or turned off by all of this negativity.

And then caught on camera, watch some real life heroes pull a man from a burning car.

And later, you know that sweets rot your teeth, but should sugar be regulated like alcohol and tobacco? There's a new research that actually argues that sugar can be just as harmful.

So people in Florida right now probably relieved to turn on the TVs, not get bombarded by all these negative campaign ads. For weeks, this is what they saw.

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AD NARRATOR: When Mitt Romney invented governor-run health care, Romney advisers helped Barack Obama write the disastrous Obamacare.

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The president is copying that idea. I'm glad to hear that.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I agree with Mitt Romney who recently said he's proud of what he accomplished on health care.

AD NARRATOR: Romneycare has (inaudible) out of control, hiking premiums, squeezing household budgets.

ROMNEY: I'm not a partisan Republican that I'm someone who is moderate and my views are progressive.

AD NARRATOR: Ever notice how some people make a lot of mistakes?

NEWT GINGRICH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I've made a mistake. I've made mistakes sometimes and -- AD NARRATOR: So far Newt Gingrich has admitted his mistakes or flipped on teaming up with Nancy Pelosi, immigration, Medicare, health care, Iraq, attacking Mitt Romney and more.

GINGRICH: I made a big mistake in the spring.

AD NARRATOR: Haven't we had enough mistakes?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MALVEAUX: So we're talking about a total of more than 11,500 campaign ads aired in Florida between January 23rd and January 29th. That is amazing.

That's according to the Campaign Media Analysis Group. More than 10,600 were negative. So what does that mean, 92 percent of the ads were negative.

Clinical psychologist, Jeff Gardere is joining us to talk about all this. First of all, Jeff, I'm assuming that you have 92 percent of these ads negative because they work. Do they not?

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: I believe that they absolutely do work and that's why Newt Gingrich had a real problem in Iowa and in Florida because it was about the negative ads chopping him down in order for Governor Romney to actually get that leg up.

And even Governor Romney said that they had to throw it out there in order to level the playing field and to respond to the negative ads that were put out by the Gingrich folks against him.

MALVEAUX: So Jeff, I don't get this though because when you ask people whether or not they are turned off by these ads, they say yes. They're not listening to them. They don't care about them. They don't work. Why do people say that?

GARDERE: Well, a lot of people are turned off by the negative ads, but they are still getting through to their minds. So consciously they may not be aware that they are being blanketed by that information.

And it's starting to permeate into their subconscious. As long as it starts casting doubt in their mind about a candidate, even if they don't like the negative ads towards that candidate, then you have success that the negative ad is actually working.

MALVEAUX: And Jeff, you say that people are inherently good. So mean and bad things are more interesting to them and people are paying attention to that. Is that how negative ads actually work?

GARDERE: I believe that is exactly how they work. Think about it. We are much more attracted in the news at times to some of the bad things that happen in life. And by the way, when was the last time you remembered a compliment versus the insult?

You're going to remember that insult much more. We have to take a look at the fact that negative ads are very entertaining and if they pick up on the net and they go viral, then, again, you have a very, very successful negative ad out there.

MALVEAUX: What is the most entertaining negative aspect? I mean, are people drawn by people's fallacious details of their personal lives? Is there anything that people feel is particularly repugnant?

GARDERE: Well, what we are finding with the negatives ads and the ones that are much more effective are the one that stick around the realm of voting records and political positions.

However, when those negative ads start attacking a candidate's family members or they go into their personal lives, this is where in fact we find that people are much more turned off by negative ads.

They really are not that effective at that point and they become much more personal mudslinging and people really don't like that and God bless them that they don't.

MALVEAUX: OK, God bless them that they don't. Jeff, thank you so much. Appreciate the perspective there.

Facebook, undisputed champion of social media now with a monster IPO. Now we wait to see what the company is really worth. A few other high tech high rollers went public just in the last few months. We're going to take a look at how they've actually performed.

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MALVEAUX: Facebook has rocked Wall Street with its IPO filing yesterday even though it was after the "closing bell." It's still a while before you or I can actually buy shares of the world's biggest social network.

But there's a history of internet companies that open and then failed to electrify the market. I want to bring in Felicia Taylor to lay the land for us here.

Can we assume that Facebook, the shares of Facebook are going to come out of the gate strong and are we ready? Should we buy?

TAYLOR: Well, there's a two-fold answer to that question, Suzanne. I mean, I would bet, if you can assume things like that, then, yes, there's so much hype around Facebook that the shares are going jump right at the open.

I mean, that's probably what's going to happen. Often though, what happens is the institutional investors get in at the open. They wait for the stocks to rise in price, sell it and then those higher price shares are left to the average investor.

And then, you know, for most of us that would get in after those institutional investors, there is not that much upside potential because, obviously, the stock is already run up.

So, you know, should people buy Facebook at this point? Look, I'm not a financial, you know, adviser by any stretch of the imagination. I would say it would be wise to wait mostly because the price will come back down again after it has had a few days to settle in.

So beware of all that though. In 2011, three of the four big internet IPOs now trade below where they close on that first day of trading. LinkedIn may have had the most hype when it opened here in the New York Stock Exchange.

Shares shut up that day almost doubling on the day it opened, but they are down about 20 percent since then. Similar story for Groupon and Pandora, buying stock in an IPO, it can be a risky business especially for people who have never done it before.

Just to give you an idea though, Zynga right now is up 16 percent and that's because of all the hype surrounding Facebook because it gets some of its revenue from Facebook. So Zynga shares are up 16.5 percent. LinkedIn is up 5 percent. Groupon is up another 5 percent and Pandora is up 2 percent.

And that's all around this hype about Facebook. So, yes, I would think the shares are going to go skyrocket when they do finally open. It's not going to be for a few months.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thank you, Felicia. We'll be keeping an eye on it.

A man says he is sitting in his car, right, listening to Johnny Cash when all of a sudden police are pulling him out of a roaring fire. We're going to see that rescue.

And you could call him a cook and a scientist, see why this guy made our CNN's "Next List."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really someone who explores the world of science in food. We're always playing with your expectations as to what this food could be. We use a lot of different tools. Centrifuges, zonifiers, laser, we're actually starting to work with semiconductors.

If you look at, you know, the limitations of treating new products, you're only limited by the technology that you have to work with. You know, the real thrill with the food experiments that we do is creating something that is impossible, creating something that shouldn't be.

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MALVEAUX: Time for a check of the stories making news across the country. Two New Jersey police officers are being called heroes today after they pulled a man from a burning car all caught on video here. The man said he was listening to Johnny Cash, had no idea that the car was on fire. He was treated for smoke inhalation.

A fireball streaked across skies over Texas and Oklahoma last night, but it was not a UFO. The NFAA says it was probably a meteor.

And in Massachusetts, rescuers trying to save nine dolphins that washed ashore off the coast of Cape Cod. Dolphins stranding have become a problem in the area in recent weeks and many of the mammals have died.

Two groundhogs, two predictions today, Chad. Actually, I have to say, this is my mom. It's like one of my mom's favorite holidays. Why, I'm not exactly sure, but she loves this and, you know, she's a retired school teacher, so she gets to tell the story about the groundhogs.

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Maybe next year --

MALVEAUX: And we're looking at both these guys. Are they normally right? Are they wrong? Do they get it right?

MYERS: Punxsutawney Phil has now, over the past 126 years, predicted sun or predicted more winter 100 times. So -- but you know why? Because there's so many lights on him. Of course he's going to see his shadow. All those television cameras are there. Even if it's not sunny --

MALVEAUX: He's a movie star, you forgot all the paparazzi around him.

MYERS: Yes, exactly right. But what you were saying before, you were saying that while General Beauregard Lee here in Georgia says, nope, spring's on its way, Chuck Wood, there's another groundhog named Chuck, he's in Illinois, he says early spring.

MALVEAUX: There's another one.

MYERS: The Staten Island Chuck says early spring. You know, it was funny because we said Staten Island Chuck came out of the Staten Island burrow -- borough.

MALVEAUX: Oh, got it, burrow. OK.

MYERS: And Buckeye Chuck says early spring, too.

MALVEAUX: OK.

MYERS: There's a bunch of them. There's all kind of --

MALVEAUX: So sometimes they get them right, huh?

MYERS: Yes.

MALVEAUX: But "Groundhog Day," I want you to check out the movie, the clip here --

MYERS: Oh, yes.

MALVEAUX: Bill Murray. Every day, Groundhog Day.

MYERS: One of my favorite movies. MALVEAUX: Check it out.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BILL MURRAY, ACTOR, "GROUNDHOG DAY": Rita, if you only had one day to live, what would you do with it?

ANDIE MACDOWELL, ACTRESS, "GROUNDHOG DAY": I don't know, Phil. What are you dying of?

MURRAY: No. I just mean the whole world is about to explode. What do you do?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MALVEAUX: Chad.

MYERS: Look how young Bill Murray is.

MALVEAUX: I know. Hey, we invited him to come on today, you know. It seems he's not available. But, we'll see.

MYERS: You know, I don't know.

MALVEAUX: Would you -- is there any day ever that you'd want to relive?

MYERS: I guess the birth of my son, but then I'd have so many sons because I'd have, you know --

MALVEAUX: Would your wife, would she actually want to go through that over and over and over again?

MYERS: No, absolutely not. Yes, no. You know, I'd want to -- I'd just -- every year it's something new. I did fly with the Blue Angels. That was an awesome day.

MALVEAUX: Oh, that's pretty cool.

MYERS: Yes. So, that was good stuff.

MALVEAUX: Yes.

MYERS: How about you?

MALVEAUX: My 30th birthday. I was traveling with Hillary Clinton on her plane and we had visited all these countries, Russia and I was exhausted. I was tired. I was on the plane. I fell asleep. I told the photographer before I fell asleep I hadn't celebrated my birthday. And I woke up and the first lady was there with a cake and --

MYERS: Oh, sweet.

MALVEAUX: Birthday cake and candles and they sang happy birthday to me. It was like, oh, that's pretty cool. I'll take that birthday over and over again. MYERS: That's right.

MALVEAUX: So --

MYERS: All right.

MALVEAUX: That was a nice day.

MYERS: Have a good say.

MALVEAUX: All right, you, too. Groundhogs Day.

MYERS: It's like -- and your mom likes it too. It will be a Hallmark card for her next year.

MALVEAUX: Happy Groundhogs Day, mom.

MYERS: All right.

MALVEAUX: Newt Gingrich questioning the president's faith because of a new policy dealing with birth control. We're asking you what you think about it. Is the Obama administration waging a war on religion? We're going to have your response in "Talk Back" up next.

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MALVEAUX: Newt Gingrich has accused the president of waging a war on religion. Why? Because the Obama administration will continue to require employers to include birth control in their health care plans. So, what do you think? It's our "Talk Back" question today. Carol Costello with some of your responses.

Hey, Carol, what are folks saying?

COSTELLO: Hi, Suzanne.

Well, the "Talk Back" question, as you said, is the Obama administration waging a war on religion?

This from Alex. He says, "waging a war on religion? None of his policies have tried to attack religion. They have, however, worked to open up the definition of religion to include faiths other than Christianity."

This from Patricia. She says, "yes, President Obama and his administration have waged a marriage and health care war on faith- based organizations calling it equality as they attempt to force religious health care facilities to violate their doctrine."

This from June. "Not at all. Sadly the church is waging war on religion. God is love, not hate, and all the religious leaders are promoting hatred for our president, ethnic groups and gays. It has become, do as I say, not as I do."

This from Carols. "Of course not. It's ridiculous that Republicans would make up such a lie. It's campaign season and the GOP will make up any lie just to win the presidency."

Keep the conversation going. There's been a passionate response this afternoon, Suzanne. Facebook.com/carolcnn. Thanks, as always, for your comments.

MALVEAUX: Carol, there's going to be a lot of passion over the weekend. Super Bowl. I know you're a big football fan. And Tim Tebow, he is going to be with us tomorrow in the NEWSROOM.

COSTELLO: Get out. Get out.

MALVEAUX: No, I'm not kidding. I'm like what would -- if you had a chance to ask him anything, what would you ask him? Maybe we'll ask him tomorrow.

COSTELLO: How'd he come up with Tebowing? That's what I want to know.

MALVEAUX: The -- like that, right?

COSTELLO: When did that start? What does it mean, really?

MALVEAUX: Is that right?

COSTELLO: What's he asking God for? That's what I want to know.

MALVEAUX: The prayer that he does. Yes. OK. I'm going to toss that question in. You know, we're going to try to get to everything because he's had this amazing year. You know, who does he think is going to win the Super Bowl. What does he do when he's not playing football. And, yes, the Tebow. What is he asking for.

COSTELLO: And, Suzanne, most importantly, he's really cute.

MALVEAUX: Oh, OK. Well, that's good, too. That's just a bonus.

COSTELLO: I know.

MALVEAUX: He's going to be here tomorrow. That's going to be noon in the CNN NEWSROOM. So we'll throw that question his way.

COSTELLO: Awesome.

MALVEAUX: Good to see you, Carol.

All right, most of us try to stay healthy, try to limit how much sugar we eat. Well, now one journal is arguing that the government should help us do that. We're going to tell you why some say that sugar is toxic.

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MALVEAUX: I want to go directly to our own Ben Wedeman who's in Cairo.

I understand that there are protests that are erupting on the streets there. This just a day after those soccer riots that killed nearly 80 people. Ben, what are you seeing?

BEN WEDEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the protests went on for most of the day, but they descended into clashes between the protesters and the security forces. Yet again we see in the area around Tahrir, the roads leading to the interior ministry yet again a battlefield between these protesters who initially came out to protest against the killing of more than 70 soccer fans in Port Said.

But it quickly transformed into yet another demonstration against the supreme council of the armed forces, the body that's ruled Egypt since Hosni Mubarak stepped down a year ago. We understand that tear gas is being fired, rubber bullets as well in that area. Ambulances rushing to those streets around the interior ministry. No word yet, however, of casualties or fatalities.

Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Ben, do we know what the police are doing? You reported earlier they stood by when that rioting hurt -- actually occurred yesterday. What is taking place between the police and the protesters?

WEDEMAN: Well, the protesters made it clear since last night that they would be holding demonstrations in Cairo. And their goal is to get to the interior ministry. They blamed the interior ministry for not providing adequate security in the portside stadium. And, in a wider sense, they believe that -- many of the protesters say that the ministry of the interior and the police basically stood aside and allowed this violence to take place.

Keeping in mind, of course, that there's a long history of bad blood between the fans of the Cairo team that was involved in these -- this violence, Ahly, and the police forces, the Ahly fans. Many of them, the hardcore fans, have played a leading role in the clashes over the last year between the police and demonstrators anti-government demonstrators in Cairo.

Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: All right. We are looking at, again, live pictures there out of Cairo, Egypt. Protests that are erupting, now turning violent. This after an incredibly violent day there. Seventy-nine people killed in soccer riots that erupted just yesterday. And Ben Wedeman's going to be keeping a close eye on what is taking place there on the ground.

We are following another story. This you can't -- it's a medical story. You can't buy tobacco until you're 18. You can't buy alcohol till you're 21. And could there actually be a law some day that says you can't buy sugar until you're a certain age? Well, there's some researchers that say there should be a law that says that. Elizabeth Cohen is joining us to talk about some of the new regulations.

Tell us what this is about.

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is actually three researchers at the University of California, in San Francisco, who said down one day and said, you know what, maybe we ought to tax this stuff. There's processed sugar in a lot of things and maybe we ought to tax it or make we ought to make it so that you have to be 17 to buy soda because soda has a lot of sugar in it. They call sugar toxic. And the sugar industry, of course, doesn't like this at all. They say this is -- you know, that there's no one food that accounts for the obesity epidemic in this country.

MALVEAUX: Sure.

COHEN: And that singling out one food is confusing and adds to the problem.

MALVEAUX: So why do they say that adding sugar is so bad?

COHEN: Right. The problem with added sugar, and this is well established, that can lead to something called the metabolic syndrome, which is basically where your body's insulin doesn't handle sugar well. That, in turn, can lead to diabetes and heart disease, which are two huge problems in this country.

MALVEAUX: So what amount of sugar, added sugar, is actually OK?

COHEN: According to the American Heart Association, not very much.

MALVEAUX: Wow.

COHEN: Pick up that glass of lemonade, if you would, Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: OK. Yummy.

COHEN: If you drink that lemonade -- that's from a fast food restaurant -- that's it. That's your added sugar for the day.

MALVEAUX: This is it?

COHEN: That is it. That is it. Or if you eat that donut there --

MALVEAUX: Yummy.

COHEN: That's your added sugar for the day. And that muffin there, that will be more than your added sugar for the day.

MALVEAUX: And what are some of the foods that are surprisingly high in those processed sugars?

COHEN: We started looking at labels. You know what, a granola bar -- this is -- that's a lot of sugar. That's about a third of the day's sugar in there.

MALVEAUX: Wow.

COHEN: This here, this is about a quarter of the day's sugar. You wouldn't think a chicken sandwich would have that, but if you eat this, you've eaten a quarter of your day's allotment of processed sugar.

MALVEAUX: I think I've eaten all the sugar I'm supposed to have today.

COHEN: And it's only, what, 1:00, right?

MALVEAUX: Yes, only 1:00. All right, thank you very much.

COHEN: Thanks.

MALVEAUX: Obviously a lot of good information. Thanks, Elizabeth.

CNN NEWSROOM continues right now with Fredricka Whitfield.

Hey, Fred.

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right, after seeing that, I've calculated, I've had a day's worth of sugar in just like the first hour of my morning. I'm in trouble.

MALVEAUX: Exactly.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks a lot. Have a great day, Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Thanks.