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Second Ohio School Shooting Victim Dies; 57 Syrians Killed; Sheriff is Arizona's Kingmaker; T.J. Lane Accused in School Shooting; Costa Allegra Towed in Indian Ocean; Romney Speaks at Campaign Headquarters; Dealing with Fertility Issues; Paying more to Fill-up; Fire, Crashes Mark Daytona 500

Aired February 28, 2012 - 09:00   ET

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DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, thanks so much, Soledad. We'll take it from here.

Well, let's begin this morning with the latest from Chardon, Ohio. A second student has now died after yesterday's shooting at the high school. He is 17-year-old Russell King, Jr. A 16-year-old Daniel Parmertor died yesterday in the shooting. Three others remain hospitalized.

The alleged gunman now identified by fellow students as 17-year- old T.J. Lane, a sophomore and student at a nearby school for at-risk kids. He's accused of targeting a table of students in the school cafeteria. Authorities have searched his house. Lane is due in juvenile court this afternoon.

Recent Facebook postings by Lane hinted at his dark side talking about, quote, "death. Not just stalking you, but inside of you." And even using the line, quote, "die all of you," unquote. The school remains closed. Flags flying half-staff across the state today. People in the community coming together last night for a vigil.

And this, sound from police dispatchers as the horrific scenes unfolded at the school.

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UNIDENTIFIED DISPATCHER: Chardon, we have three students down in the cafeteria at this time. We still don't know where the shooter is. Also there's a fourth one down in room 200.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FEYERICK: Student named Mueller grazed by a bullet in the ear describes the attack and what he saw.

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NATE MUELLER, CHARDON HIGH SCHOOL GRAZED BY BULLET: He took one shot. He didn't say anything the entire time. He took one shot and then that's when we looked to see what was happening because it sounded like a firecracker almost. I saw him shoot which hit one of my other friends that was sitting at the table with us. And then as I was turning around, that's when he hit me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FEYERICK: Ted Rowlands is in Chardon, Ohio, for us this morning.

And Ted, let's start with the alleged shooter's family. What have we heard from them?

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, they are speaking through an attorney, Deb. And they are saying that there was no way that really they could have predicted this. They say they are sorry to the community. They say they are grieving along with everybody else. Take a listen to what the family attorney said publicly last night.

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ROWLANDS: Any idea why this happened?

BOB FARINACCI, ESQ, FAMILY ATTORNEY: He's -- let me say this, he's a very confused young man right now. He's very confused. He's very upset. He's very distraught himself. This is a very scary circumstance that I don't think you could have possibly even foreseen himself in the middle of.

ROWLANDS: How is his state of mind when you spoke to him? What is he like now?

FARINACCI: Very upset. Very, very scared and extremely remorseful.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ROWLANDS: T.J. Lane will make his first court appearance at 3:30 local time, Deb, in juvenile court it remains to be seen whether or not the prosecution will ask that he be moved up to adult court, adult courts status at that hearing. Again, that coming up in a few hours. Meantime, there is no school today in any of the schools here in Chardon.

FEYERICK: And Ted, I understand that there are surveillance tapes that were inside the school that captured the shooting. Have police described what they show right now or is it still too early?

ROWLANDS: Well, we haven't seen the tape, but someone who has seen the tape talked to the "Cleveland Plain Dealer" and he lays out or this person lays out what is on this tape that is pretty extraordinary. Apparently you can see everything. According to this person that's seen the tape, told the "Plain Dealer" that you see T.J. Lane walk into the cafeteria, sit down by himself at a table, then get up and pull out a gun from a knapsack or some sort of bag, walk up to another table where three students are sitting and shoots one of them in the head, one of them in the back, and one of them in the abdomen, then walks and starts to make his way out of the cafeteria.

At that point he comes in contact with another student, the female student, Joy Rickers, 18-year-old who is in serious condition this morning, and shoots her apparently because she was in the way. Then apparently you can see that teacher run him out of the school.

What you can't see on the tape, according to this individual that has seen it, is Daniel Parmertor. The first fatality in this case. It's unclear where or when he was shot by T.J. Lane.

FEYERICK: All right, Ted Rowlands for us there. And also, interesting, the second person who died apparently according to a witness had recently begun dating T.J. Lane's ex-girlfriend. So police investigating that aspect of it as well to see if that could potentially be the motive.

Thanks, Ted Rowlands.

Well, coming up Allie Herzog with Likeable Media joins us to talk about how social media can give too much information, especially in dangerous situations.

And for the first time in more than two weeks, voters again having their say in the Republican presidential race. For frontrunners Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, the stakes pretty high. A total of 59 delegates up for grabs today in two states. Arizona is winner-takes-all. Michigan will divide its delegates based on the results. But considering that it's the state where Romney grew up, it is critical -- it's a critical weigh station for a campaign that desperately needs to regain momentum.

And CNN's Paul Steinhauser is in Detroit, the suburb of Bloomfield Hills. Suzanne Malveaux joining us at the Arizona State Capitol in Phoenix.

And let's begin with Paul. Too close to call right now, correct?

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: Very correct, Deb. Just about every poll here taken in the last week or two indicates it's up for grabs. Let's take a look at the most recent. This is from American Research Group. It came out yesterday. And well, that's pretty close. Look at that. Rick Santorum at 36 percent. Mitt Romney at 35. You can't get much closer than that, Deb.

And that's why every vote really matters here. As you mentioned, we're in Bloomfield Hills. This is where Mitt Romney grew up, where he went to elementary and high school. Voting been underway here since 6:00 a.m. about three hours ago.

And here's what makes Michigan interesting. It's an open primary. That means Republicans, of course, but so can independents and Democrats can vote in this primary. And there's a lot of talk about Democrats crossing over trying to deny Mitt Romney a victory in his home state and voting in the Republican primary. Some Democratic activists urging that but so is the Santorum campaign.

Take a listen to this automated call from the Santorum campaign making a pitch to Democratic voters. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On Tuesday join Democrats who are going to send a loud message to Massachusetts' Mitt Romney by voting for Rick Santorum for president.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STEINHAUSER: Santorum campaign standing by that robocall. The candidate himself backing it up. But I tell you, Mitt Romney pretty upset about all of that. Calling it dirty tricks. Take a listen to what he said in a TV interview.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Senator Santorum did something today which I think is deceptive and a dirty trick which is he's put an ad out there sounding like a labor ad telling labor folks and Democrats to go vote against me and to vote for Rick Santorum.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

STEINHAUSER: Well, Romney himself is going to come before cameras in about half an hour from now, take questions from reporters. I have a feeling he's going to be talking about this. Of course we'll have live coverage of that when Romney speaks -- Deb.

FEYERICK: Absolutely, no question about that. And interesting, Mitt Romney has to win Michigan because if he doesn't, arguably it goes against his premise which is that he is the candidate who can actually beat President Obama.

The candidates all there in Michigan, not Arizona. How come, slam dunk in Arizona?

STEINHAUSER: To a degree. You know, the polls there are not as close. But also, remember, Michigan, 30 delegates at stake and it's proportional unlike Arizona. So you don't have to win here to grab delegates. That's why you see a lot more traffic from the candidates, Romney, Santorum, and even Ron Paul campaigning here. Newt Gingrich about the only one who really hasn't made many visits to Michigan -- Deb.

FEYERICK: All right. Paul Steinhauser for us. Thanks so much. We'll be following you.

Now we're going to go to Arizona. Suzanne Malveaux at the state capitol there in Phoenix.

And, Suzanne, how is the race shaping up there?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, actually, the voting centers just opened about an hour ago. And the winner-takes-all here, 29 delegates. Now Romney so far a slight edge in the lead here. It's not surprising. Last go around 2008 he came in second place to Senator John McCain but back then, Deb, that is when he had the endorsement of one tough sheriff. And it's that sheriff here that essentially has made immigration a hot button issue this go round. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's so very nice to meet you.

SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY: Thank you.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the self-proclaimed toughest sheriff in America.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why don't you run for president?

(CROSSTALK)

MALVEAUX: We found him selling pink underwear at a local art fair. He first made them famous when he forced inmates in Maricopa County to wear them along with pink handcuffs. His tough stance on crime and illegal immigration has made him a kingmaker among the Republican candidates. Many have come to him to kiss the ring and win his coveted endorsement.

ARPAIO: Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain.

MALVEAUX: Yes?

ARPAIO: And of course Perry I campaigned for him in Iowa, which I see a lot of Iowa people walking by. And Romney called me briefly.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): For now Arpaio is being coy while he enjoys the attention.

(On camera): Everybody has come to you. They need your support. They want your support. Are you going to give it before the Tuesday primary?

ARPAIO: No.

MALVEAUX: No?

ARPAIO: No.

MALVEAUX: Not even a hint?

ARPAIO: No.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): It's hard to take two steps without someone approaching him with praise.

Arpaio is also known for banning movies, coffee, cigarettes, and porn from his prisons, all in the name of saving taxpayers money, like the $20,000 he says he saved by cutting salt and pepper from his prisoner's diets.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can I shake your hand?

ARPAIO: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You keep up the good work.

ARPAIO: Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm an immigrant and I did the hard way and the right way.

MALVEAUX: But it's Arpaio's tough stand on illegal immigration that has drawn a line in Arizona's desert stand. The Justice Department accuses him of racially profiling Latinos, making random stops, searches and arrests. And many Hispanics we talk to here agree.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They pull you over and you ask them how can I help you? What did you do? They say -- they start just asking for your I.D. and stuff. And yes, I've experienced it. And anybody that says that it doesn't happen, they're hypocrites or they just don't want to believe the truth.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're always stopping the Latino community or always going, targeting the row-income community.

MALVEAUX: But the sheriff is standing his ground.

ARPAIO: I am the sheriff. I'm going to enforce those laws. There are some people who don't like it, go get another sheriff.

MALVEAUX (on camera): Speak to some of the Hispanics here who accuse you, who say, I've been unfairly pulled over. I've been unfairly targeted by your office.

ARPAIO: These are isolated incidents. There's no systemic racial profiling. I know it. And I want the Justice Department to prove it. Let them prove it.

MALVEAUX: The issue is so hot and so divisive among voters here. Even this Phoenix couple that's been together for eight years can't see eye to eye.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't think there's racial profiling.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been a victim of it. Are you kidding?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I live by a Home Depot. And illegals stand up there all the time. It was annoying as can be. They come up to your car. You kind of felt unsafe.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How can you look in a car and tell if somebody is illegal or not?

(END VIDEOTAPE)

MALVEAUX: So Deb, as you can tell, it's really a hot issue. It's a very emotional issue among voters. And that they're all paying very close attention to what the candidates have to say about immigration and their policy, but they're going to have to rely on what these candidates said. Nearly a week ago at the CNN GOP debate because since then they will hightail it out of here out of Arizona, to go where Paul is, Michigan and some other hot contests. So we'll see if the voters actually end up feeling neglected and take it out on them as well.

It'll be very interesting to see how this particular issue plays out and how they vote today, Deb.

FEYERICK: The question, and clearly what happens in Arizona could be sort of the first firing shot as to what happens around the rest of the country vis-a-vis immigration. Suzanne Malveaux, we know you've got a lot coming up at 11:00, too. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.

CNN tonight, two more opportunities for someone to separate themselves from their Republican competition. Coverage of the Arizona and Michigan primaries begins at 6:00 Eastern with the special edition of "JOHN KING USA" and that's followed by CNN's complete live coverage of results at 7:00 Eastern with Wolf Blitzer and the best political team on television.

Syria's government is stepping up its shelling attacks. Opposition groups in Syria say at least 57 civilians have been killed today.

There are also reports that the bodies of nearly 60 men were dumped near Homs. Of course journalists are restricted in Syria so details about this story aren't clear. A British journalist who's escaped Syria, Paul Conroy, was wounded in the same attack that killed American journalist Marie Colvin.

The "Sunday Times" newspaper said he was smuggled into another country. Several rebels reportedly were killed as they tried to help him escape.

And let's see what other nations are saying about the price at Sinceria (ph). CNN's Zain Verjee in London with a look of some of the headlines. And Zain, the European Union trying to at least cut off Syria financially.

ZAIN VERJEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Yes, they are. They're really imposing much more targeted sanctions where they really hope there will be some kind of impact.

Let me just give you a flavor of what the international newspapers are saying today. I picked three. This is what the "International Herald Tribune" has as its headline. It says, "Arm Syria's Rebels." It says, "It's going to get worse before it gets better. No one can put this genie back in a bottle. This is the mother of all proxy fights. The remorseless Assad regime is finished. When it dies is the only question.

Take a look at "The National." It says, an economic bloodbath will test Assad's staying power. It says, "The fate of Bashar, al- Assad, could yet be decided by economics, not intervention. "If opposition can persuade Syria's businessmen and women that their businesses would fair better, without Mr. al-Assad. The regime may crumble from within."

Take a look at "The China Daily." Its headline, "Syrian People's True Friend." This is a scathing attack on U.S. foreign policy. It says, "Despite its efforts to brand itself as the protector of the Arab people, the U.S.'s conduct lacks any moral backing. History is sure to be the judge of the U.S.'s interventions into the internal affairs of the Arab world."

Just a few of the headlines of what the newspapers around the world today are saying -- Deb.

FEYERICK: So interesting, Zain, especially since Syria is sort of heralding the fact that everyone voted for constitutional change, which essentially keeps President al Assad in power and denies the parties that have opposed him from running in future multi-party elections.

Zain Verjee there for us in London -- thanks so much.

Well, Ohio's accused school shooter T.J. Lane is expected in court later today. What charges could he face now that a second student has died? We'll have the latest for you coming up.

And if you want access to your child's text messages, sounds simple, right? Well, no. You have to go to court. A bill in the Arizona state legislature would change the law.

The story when we go cross-country.

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FEYERICK: And checking our stories cross-country.

A commuter plane made an emergency landing at Newark Airport in New Jersey last night. The front landing gear failed on approach to the airport. No one on board was hurt.

Arizona could become the first state to let parents access text messages on their child's phone. Right now, parents need a court order for that access. The parental access bill has been passed. It has passed in Arizona Senate committee.

And check out this fire ball at the Daytona 500. Juan Pablo Montoya slammed into the back of a jet dryer incinerating his car. The jet drier was filled with fuel. Well, he got out OK but that crash forced a two-hour delay. We're going to have more on the race and the more dramatic pictures coming up later this hour.

Schools are closed today in the small town of Chardon, Ohio, following a deadly shooting -- high school shooting that's now claimed a second victim.

Many in the small community are struggling to understand why a quiet teenager identified by witnesses as T.J. Lane and described as normal and friendly would allegedly open fire at a school. Lane's scheduled for an initial juvenile court appearance this afternoon.

CNN "EARLY START" anchor Ashleigh Banfield joins us now.

And, Ashleigh, the charges he's expected to face, what are they?

ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, ANCHOR, CNN'S "EARLY START": You know, it could be a laundry list, Deb. I'll be honest with you. Everything from aggravated murder which in that state incorporates a premeditation right on down to assault causing bodily injury.

You know, it's really critical to do some CSI at this point, crime scene investigation, to find out just exactly how he got the gun, what he did with the gun, where those people were sitting, how they were shot.

There is a lot that still sort of needs to come into play before I think we'll know the full scope and menu of the charges that this young man is facing. But it is extraordinarily serious, Deb. And also, that state used to be a death penalty state. There's a moratorium. But you can face life no parole -- life, no chance of ever getting out if you're convicted of a top count.

FEYERICK: Yes. And what's amazing also is that in the beginning when this first broke, people thought it was a random shooting. But as witnesses came forward, it seemed to be a more targeted shooting, which obviously goes to your issue of premeditation.

Can the things that he posted on either Facebook or Twitter, can those be used as evidence against him?

BANFIELD: Oh, can and will. You absolutely know it.

We all the time see these things coming into court cases. They're trying to figure out state of mind. You know, his -- some people might have looked at his Facebook postings as sort of dark poetry. But when someone dies and you are accused of it, all of those things come in to try to determine what your mens rea is.

But I think more critical than even that, Deb, is what those witnesses are going to be able to tell us. They're going to be able to paint a picture of just what exactly transpired in that cafeteria.

And make no mistake: premeditation can be formed in one second. You don't necessarily even need those Facebook postings. You can have things that transpire right then and there that conceal your doom.

FEYERICK: Yes. And you and I have both sat in court cases where lawyers, defense lawyers have argued -- well, it's only when they pull the trigger does it actually then come to fruition. Up until then, there's still -- you can still get out of it.

How could he get his hands on a gun? You're supposed to be 21 years old. You don't need a permit or license though. What's the situation?

BANFIELD: Some unusual circumstances in Ohio. I was looking at some research. You don't need a permit to buy one, which is kind of different, but you do have to have a permit to carry one. And if you're a gun seller, you can't sell to someone under the age of 21 unless that person either does shooting sports or hunting and can be proven thus.

And I think there's also some background on this young man that shows he was an avid hunter as well. So, that could or might not play into this.

But I'll tell you something else, that lawyer you mentioned, when lawyers talk about pulling the trigger -- his lawyer has been on television talking about remorse, sad. Not so sure that's the best thing because right now he's looking at the possibility of perhaps even mounting an insanity defense. And that becomes more difficult when you suggest he knows something was wrong.

FEYERICK: Yes, absolutely, especially because, you know, when you look at the Facebook postings and you hear some eyewitnesses who knew him, you know, you wonder whether this was a child who's unraveling and nobody caught it in time obviously.

Ashleigh Banfield, thanks so much. We appreciate your insights on that.

BANFIELD: My pleasure.

FEYERICK: Well, your water bill could double, maybe even triple. Old pipes and pumps need to be replaced. We'll tell you which parts of the country could be shelling out more money for those fixes.

And another Italian cruise ship in trouble. The Costa Allegra is a long way from home and it has no power. More than 1,000 people are on board with no air conditioning and no working kitchen. The stories coming up next.

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FEYERICK: Another Costa ship is in trouble. The Allegra lost power yesterday in the Indian Ocean. More than 1,000 people are on board.

CNN's Zain Verjee following the story from London.

Zain, the Costa Company having a couple of problems. What's the latest on this ship?

VERJEE: I just got off the phone a short while ago with someone in the office of the president in Seychelles that's obviously monitoring this really closely and involved in the operation. And what they said was that just a few moments ago, the Coast Guard had already reached the ship. There was also an air force plane there and the two tugs, Deb, that had been making their way to the vessel have reached it.

So, what they're going to do now, I was told, is that they're going to be changing the navigation route from this island that they were initially supposed to go to called Descroches to Port Victoria. What I'm also told is that they expect to be on land now sometime late Wednesday, early Thursday.

Now, it really just depends on the sea conditions out here in the Indian Ocean. But there are, as you say, 1,000 people or so on board. They're all OK. There are eight from the U.S., 13 from Canada. They all had a very cold breakfast this morning but they were grateful for it.

As you know, the kitchen as well was on fire so they can't do anything there. The ship has been adrift for a while. And they just cannot wait to get on land.

FEYERICK: OK. Well, I'm sure a number of people rethinking their choices of booking on that particular cruise line.

Zain, thanks so much.

We're going to go live right out to Livonia, Michigan. That's where presidential candidate Mitt Romney speaking to reporters. Take a listen.

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There's a real effort to kidnap our primary process. And if we want Republicans to nominate the Republican who takes on Barack Obama, I need Republicans to get out and vote and say no to the dirty tricks of a desperate campaign.

REPORTER: So many states have been sort of squeakers. Are you satisfied by and large how your campaign has been running so far?

ROMNEY: I'm very pleased with the campaign, its organization. The candidate sometimes makes some mistakes. So, I'm trying to do better and work harder and make sure that we get our message across.

I think in the final analysis, I anticipate becoming the nominee because I think what people want to be talking about is the economy and how to get good jobs in this country. And there have been a lot of other issues that have come up.

But this, I think, comes down to a question of who can create jobs that have rising incomes for the American people. That's something I know how to do. I know how the economy works. That's the way I'll be successful in the final analysis.

But we've got four candidates all battling it out. And this isn't going to be over in a day or two.

REPORTER: Your campaign has been (INAUDIBLE) ability to win other independent voters. But in the last two months since the primary voting started, your approval rating with independents has fallen quite precipitously. Do you think the negative tone and tenor of this race is affecting you and would it hurt you in a general election?

ROMNEY: You know, there's no question but that when you have a contest with four people, all trying to distinguish themselves from one another, it's going to have an effect on our positive ratings. People are going to see, in some cases, our flaws over emphasized.

But I do think in the general election, all of what's gone on during the primary becomes very much a thing of the past and we focus on what's being said in the general.

My expectation is that by the time November comes around, the things we're talking about will be quite different than the things we're talking about then. I can't predict precisely what they'll be. It may well be foreign affairs that emerge at the top of the pile.

But I do believe that the economy and creating jobs will always be the foundation of the election and I think my record in the economy will be something which holds me in good stead.

REPORTER: Let me ask you. What would you say the Republican Party members would say Michigan should never have been this close and the greater concern that you have yet to be able to excite the Republican base support?

ROMNEY: You know, it's very easy to excite the base with incendiary comments. We've seen throughout the campaign that if you're willing to say really outrageous things that are accusative, attacking of President Obama, that you're going to jump up in the polls.

You know, I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am. I'm a person with extensive experience in the private sector, in the economy. I understand job creation from a personal standpoint I understand that and from a theoretical standpoint.

I want to use the skills to help the country. And if I get selected, great. And if I don't, I can live with that too.

I'm putting myself out there because I think I can do a better job getting America back on track. I think this president's taken us in a very dangerous direction, and that we've got to get him out of the White House. But I'm not willing to say anything to get that nod.

REPORTER: You say you've made some mistakes. I'm curious what you're talking about.

ROMNEY: I can't imagine you would have a hard time coming up with that. Never repeat -- never repeat your mistakes. Please.

REPORTER: Senator Santorum has made comments recently about religion in the public square and the denouncing of JFK's speech. I'm wondering if you agree with him or what your comments are?

ROMNEY: You know, I gave a speech on religion in America and it describes my views. I pointed out that sometimes the term or the phrase the separation of church and state has been used by some to demand that there is no recognition of God in our society, that there is no recognition of God in the public square.

I disagree with that. I do not believe we should establish secularism as a new religion in America. I believe we are a nation under God and express my views to that speech some time ago.

At the same time, I respect President Kennedy and his expression of his own views, and felt that his speech was an indication of those views. My speech was an indication of views that are somewhat different than his. But religion certainly has a place in the public square.

REPORTER: Senator Santorum's comments, you have explained your own vote in Democratic primaries as a way to influence their selection of their candidate. How do you square that with what you said today?

ROMNEY: I -- it's very different being a candidate for president, to buying ads, and sending and telling Democrats to go mess into a Republican primary and to vote against me -- particularly when he doesn't describe his own position on the very issues he attacks me for.

In my case, I was certainly voting against the Democrat who I thought was the person I thought would be the worst leader of our nation -- in this case as I recall, it was Bill Clinton. I wanted someone other than Bill Clinton. And certainly -- and against Ted -- I voted against Ted Kennedy, Tip O'Neill and Bill Clinton. Seemed like a good group to be against.

REPORTER: Governor Romney, your campaign consultants and the consultants for the super PAC that's supporting your bid are sharing office space and some of the same vendors. My question is not if you're following the letter of the law because I know you have said that you are.

But do you think that squares with the intent of the law governing super PAC, that there's not more separation of those entities?

ROMNEY: I think we've been very careful to make sure we're following the law, as well as the intent of the law. I also think that the law itself is a very strange, awkward, and inappropriate piece of legislation. I think this idea that people are limited in giving to a campaign and that they're unlimited in giving to a super PAC and that, therefore, the campaign can't guide the very advertisement that's affecting its future makes no sense at all.

I think -- I think our campaign finance laws ought to be thrown out and rewritten to remove this extraordinary anomaly.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Last question!

REPORTER: Governor, you've sort of, you know --

FEYERICK: So Mitt Romney there speaking to reporters in Livonia, Michigan, saying -- urging Republicans to get out and vote, that after a robocall basically urging Democrats to vote for Santorum. Mitt Romney saying that Republicans need to get out, also talking about his record and slamming super PACs saying it's completely unfair that you can't give unlimited money to campaigns but you can to super PACs.

We'll bring you more as he says as he says it.

Up next, big news on social media. Well, they can have instant access to information, but will they do more harm than good? We'll be asking our guest. That on the other side of the break.

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FEYERICK: And a quick check of the big board right now. The Dow pretty flat, down actually less than -- no, it's up one point almost, kind of. It could break 13,000 again today.

Well, a shooting at a high school in Chardon, Ohio, has claimed a second life. The medical examiner identifies the latest victim as Russell King, Jr. Another student, Daniel Parmertor died yesterday. Three other students are still hospitalized with injuries.

Last night, a vigil was held for those victims. Many in the community say they're shocked and confused.

Here's what an emotional neighbor said about the victims and the accused gunman identified by witnesses as T.J. Lane.

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CARL HENDERSON, NEIGHBOR OF T.J. LANE: I've never been hit so hard with something that happened like this with good friends, neighbors. It really bothers me because they're good people.

REPORTER: What do you know about T.J.?

HENDERSON: Very nice young man, talked to me when he went up and down the road. He lived 1,000 feet from my house here, and he'd go up and down the road, waive at me, talk to me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

FEYERICK: Well, Lane is scheduled for a court hearing later this afternoon in juvenile court.

Social media sites flew into a frenzy after the tragic shooting, spreading information in a heartbeat.

Strategy director for likeable media, Allie Herzog, is here with us.

And, Allie, when does too much online information become dangerous?

ALLIE HERZOG, STRATEGY DIR., TEAM LEAD AT LIKEABLE MEDIA: You know what, I think sometimes when you're filled with so much information it's really important to take a step back and kind of check where it's coming from, you know? I mean, things spread so fast, especially on Twitter, you know, with retweeting photos that you really need to take a step back and see, you know, is this being linked to a credible source. Is this really, you know, the truth of what's going on? Because a lot of misinformation can spread very quickly through social media.

FEYERICK: You know, what's so fascinating is that the whole social media concept, for our viewers, there were children inside the school who were texting to their parents. That information was then being forwarded to other parents. I mean, it was almost like that game of telephone where everybody is getting it out so fast, so quickly.

There are also, though, certain -- when you look past Twitter and go to something like Facebook, for example, there are some disturbing posts that pop up on Facebook, rants, for example, which T.J. Lane, the alleged gunman initial had. Do people pay attention to them?

Because one witness said, you know, we saw something that nobody thought anything of it.

HERZOG: Yes, definitely. I really think that, you know, social media more and more is becoming kind of an outlet for people and a place where people who feel like they don't have a voice can really, you know, talk. So I think that it's really important that we take things seriously. Sometimes students are just looking, you know, at Facebook or Twitter as a cry for help and really posting things there and I think it's really important that we do take things, you know, written there seriously.

FEYERICK: You know what's so interesting, Allie, is a lot of the young kids, they don't have their voice yet. Facebook, Twitter, it all gives them a voice. But as online social technology gets better and frankly gets more -- how do we streamline information so that we're simply not overwhelmed and really controlled by it?

HERZOG: Yes, that's a great question. You know, I think during a crisis, you know, social media can be an amazing tool. You know, we saw kids tweeting from inside the school and, you know, it was really the best way to get some real time information during it.

I think, you know, keeping that in mind, I think when you're a viewer of the social media sites, you're seeing things on Facebook and Twitter, you kind of need to, you know, check where they're coming from, check the validity like I was saying, and, you know, just kind of make sure that these things are real and credible.

And also, you know, only share information that you know is relevant. So, you know, don't retweet or share a picture if you're not 100 percent sure that it's correct.

But that being said, I really think it's a great way to share information during a crisis.

FEYERICK: Sure. Yes, no question about it. Though I must say when this all broke the first thing I thought was -- wow, if I were a parent, would I try to call my child or would I simply be terrified that my child didn't have the phone on vibrate, thereby, alerting the gunman to their location. So, there's so many things that we have to think about that we didn't have to before.

But, clearly, getting information, it's better to know than not know. That's what parents were experiencing yesterday in that school.

Allie Herzog, thanks so much, from Likeable Media. Thanks for your guidance and insights.

HERZOG: Thank you very much.

FEYERICK: Well, next hour a senior who was just down the hall in science class when the shooting occurred joins me with her mom to share their story. Stick around.

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FEYERICK: One-third of couples in which the woman is under the age of 35 have problems making a baby. Senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen joins us now. And Elizabeth, what are the options to help couples who are experiencing fertility issues?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, there are a lot of options out there. And I think probably too many couples who are having trouble sort of get upset and don't necessarily seek out the help that they need or they think, oh, we're going to have to do IVF. You know we're going to have to do that test tube baby thing.

But that's not true. There are other options. Other things might work. Even things like losing weight and stopping smoking and getting healthier. Even that can increase your odds of having a baby.

FEYERICK: Which is what's fascinating, we sort of go from zero to 100 in terms of panicking about fertility.

COHEN: Right.

FEYERICK: Is there a way for a woman to know whether or not she is fertile?

COHEN: You know there is a test that can help you figure that out. And even some doctors don't know about it. It's called AMH, which stands for Anti-Mullerian Hormone. It's a blood test. It's very simple. And it will help you figure out how healthy your eggs are.

So it will give you an idea. It'll tell you, you know what your eggs are doing well. Or your eggs aren't doing well.

FEYERICK: You know and what's so interesting, what you mention, is that the emphasis or the burden is always on the woman. Well, you're not fertile. But there are times when it's the male who's having the problem really. What do women need to know because there are so many options and some of them so expensive but to be empowered, what should women really know?

COHEN: Right, the first thing you want to do is you want to talk to your doctor about this AMH test for a woman. And I'm glad you brought up men because you also want to talk about a semen analysis to see what's going on there. And so you want to sort of start with -- with exploring and those two tests will help you figure out what's going on.

And then the other thing that you want to do is that you want to -- you don't want to wait too long. And that some people make that mistake. You don't want to wait too long. If you feel like, wow, this just isn't working. Just make an appointment to talk about it. You don't have to do anything at that first appointment but make an appointment to sort of explore your options.

If you go to CNN.com/Empoweredpatient you will see more options and more discussion about how to handle infertility issues.

FEYERICK: Which is what's so great because if you are 35 or even under 35 each time you try -- obviously you're getting older and older.

COHEN: Right.

FEYERICK: So your chances might be going down a little bit. So the sooner, the better.

COHEN: The sooner the better. And we don't want women to panic.

FEYERICK: Right.

COHEN: But it is true just go and ask the question. Don't be scared to ask the question and say, doctor, can you help me figure out what's going on here?

FEYERICK: All right, Elizabeth Cohen, thanks so much.

COHEN: Ok.

FEYERICK: Of course we can go to your Web site.

And coming up on the 11:00 hour of NEWSROOM, our baby quest series look at infertility from a different perspective. Medically, when is a woman considered infertile? When is she just being, you know, impatient?

Stay with us.

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FEYERICK: We're following lots of developments for you in the next hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Let's check in first with our Ted Rowlands -- Ted.

TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Deb, another student has died as a result of the shooting here in Ohio yesterday. We're learning more about the suspect as well, who will make his first court appearance coming up in a few hours. We'll have the latest coming up at the top of the hour.

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: I'm CNN political editor Paul Steinhauser at a polling station at Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Could Democratic voters decide who wins the Republican presidential primary here? Details at the top of the hour.

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: I'm Alison Kosik at the New York Stock Exchange, 26 years ago, Gordon Gekko famously proclaimed greed is good in the well-known movie, "Wall Street". Well, now the fictional insider trader is changing his tune and teaming up with the FBI to catch criminals just like him. Deb, I'm going to have more on that in the next hour.

FEYERICK: All right, thanks everyone. It sounds like an exciting hour. We'll check in with you.

Well, rising gas prices threatening Americans' livelihood.

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FEYERICK: It's not just workers who are feeling the pinch. We're going to see whether higher prices are hurting a state that depends very heavily on tourism dollars.

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FEYERICK: Well, first it was delayed by rain, then it was delayed by fire. The 54th running of the Daytona 500 is one the Nascar drivers and fans will not soon forget. Matt Kenseth took the checkered flag early this morning after the race's first ever Monday night start.

CNN's Joe Carter joins us from the speedway. And Joe, I saw that crash happen live last night. What happened? Unbelievable. .

JOE CARTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, Deb. People that have been coming here to this track since the race started back in 1959 described last night's crash as one of the most bizarre things they've ever seen happen on this most -- one of the most historic racetracks in the sport.

It happened with about 40 laps to go. We were under a caution. Driver Juan Pablo Montoya said that he lost control of his vehicle because his transmission locked up and veered into a service vehicle that was on the track to clean up debris. On top of that service vehicle is a big jet dryer, and inside that jet dryer, 200 gallons of diesel fuel.

So when they hit each other, there was a massive explosion that diesel fuel ran down the asphalt, was a huge fire ball, crews had to use extinguishers as well as beach sand to put it out. Then they had to clean up that mess. They used laundry detergent and brooms to clean it up. Fortunately for Montoya and the other driver, they walked away unharmed.

FEYERICK: All right. Joe Carter there, I was watching, it was like a fire bomb and obviously the reason they stopped the race for about two hours is because that kind of fire can melt the asphalt. And I was wondering whether, in fact, the fire trucks would have enough of whatever it was they were spraying.

Joe Carter, thanks so much there.

CNN NEWSROOM continues right after this with a live report from Chardon, Ohio, the site of yesterday's deadliest school shooting. Stay with us.

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