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Zimmerman's Lawyers Quit Case; Massive Quake Hits Off Indonesia; A Plan For Peace In Syria; Race Shifts To Romney Versus Obama; Charles Manson Up For Parole; Trayvon's Parents Speak Out; Man Believes He's Manson's Son; One Rep At A Time; Controlling Body Weight with Workouts, Diet; The Changing Face of Africa; Jim Beam Bourbon Making Resurgence Around the World

Aired April 11, 2012 - 13:00   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Felicia, thanks. Good to see you.

Top of the hour. I'm Suzanne Malveaux. Want to get you up to speed. The parents of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin are about to hold a news conference.

Plus, we expect an announcement soon from special prosecutor Angela Corey. She says she's going to release new information on the teen's shooting death within three days. And this is happening amid new concerns about the whereabouts of George Zimmerman, the man who says he shot the unarmed 17-year-old in self-defense. Even his lawyers have lost contact with him and now have quit the case.

Tsunami, no. Emergency, yes. A massive earthquake rattled the coast of Indonesia today not far from where the killer quake and tsunami hit back in 2004. The ground has not stopped shaking yet. We're hearing about aftershocks several hours since the initial quake. Disaster officials are fearing a repeat of 2004. They sent out a tsunami warning to the entire Indian Ocean. So far, no reports of serious damage or injuries.

Syrian government says it will end fighting by tomorrow's deadline. That's according to special envoy Kofi Annan who says he received a letter agreeing to the cease-fire from the Syrian foreign ministry. But the government says it is reserving the right to respond to attacks from, quote, "what they're calling armed terrorist groups." Opposition members say at least 30 people have been killed today.

For Mitt Romney it's all but certain now. Rick Santorum's exit clears the path for Romney to win the Republican nomination. So, we're going to talk about the road ahead. I want to bring in Senior Political Analyst David Gergen. It looks like, David, it is game on now looking forward to the general election. Big question a lot of people are wondering here is what does Mitt Romney need to do right now to get Santorum's endorsement and more importantly to get the social conservatives behind him?

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Well, Suzanne, this is -- this is going to be a delicate process because on one hand, Mitt Romney does need to solidify his relationships. On the other hand, he does not want to seem to be pandering. So, I think he needs to spend some quiet time reaching out, talking with a number of conservatives, especially Mr. Santorum. I think their first meeting hopefully, from a Romney point of view, he would receive the endorsement at the end of that meeting.

But I think you -- on the other hand, he's got to face this fact, Suzanne, which is very, very important. These primaries in effect sucked Mitt Romney to the right in the positions he took, especially on social issues as he chased after the so-called Santorum social conservative vote. He got himself mired into some of these women's issues like contraception and so forth which I think have cost him among independents and cost him among -- especially among women. And so, he's got to be careful now that he no longer is seen as being sucked to the right or pandering to the right but becoming his own person. Who is Mitt Romney himself? We don't even know what he's like within social environments. We need to know who is Mitt Romney? What kind of president will he make? You know, and be very, very clear about what kind of presidency he would have.

MALVEAUX: And how does he go up against President Obama who has really, I mean, all of the tools here, the bully pulpit to bring attention to these issues. Just today, he was hosting millionaires and their secretaries at the White House to promote the Buffett rule here. How does he counter something like that?

GERGEN: Well, you know, I don't think the hill is quite as steep as some people think it is. He's behind. He does run as the underdog, I think. But on the other hand, President Obama has an economy which is not sparking yet. It's -- you know, the growth is still fragile. Where I think Mitt Romney has to assert himself is -- look, on the Buffett rule, there is much to be said about people who are really rich in this country not paying their fair share, and the Buffett -- but the Buffett rule only makes a small dent in the bigger picture of a nation in debt. It's -- if you've got -- if you put the Buffett rule in place, it would amount to less than point five percent, less than one half of one percent of the deficits we're facing. So, on one hand, this is sort of a gimmick that the president is playing with.

But more importantly, Mitt Romney has to be for the position that Jack Kemp used to take and that is we shouldn't be punishing successful people in this country. What we ought to be doing is creating more successful people. Making sure that paths are open for people who are born in modest circumstances, people who are born as members of minority groups, people who are women who have a chance to make their way to the top to realize their dreams. And in too many cases, those pathways are blocked today. And Mitt Romney ought to be the candidate who says, I'm not for the status quo. I'm for unblocking and providing ladders for people and letting them climb out.

MALVEAUX: It's got to be a -- it sounds like it's going to be a difficult case for both of these men to make, the fact that they are Harvard millionaires -- Harvard grads and millionaires.

GERGEN: Let's not go too hard on the Harvard point.

MALVEAUX: Well, yes, you and I are both --

GERGEN: (INAUDIBLE.)

MALVEAUX: -- Harvard people. And you and I are both Harvard people.

GERGEN: Yes, sure.

MALVEAUX: But absolutely trying to appeal to that middle class, so it will be interesting to see how they develop their line.

GERGEN: But the middle class is -- the middle class is suffering in this country, and we've heard a lot from Mitt Romney. But I don't think he's yet connected on how he would see the middle class prospering and growing and bringing economic growth to the country.

MALVEAUX: All right. David Gergen, thanks. Go Crimson.

GERGEN: Thank you.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thanks, David. Here is a rundown of some of the stories that we are covering over the next hour. Nobody knows where George Zimmerman is. We're going to hear from the parents of Trayvon Martin about what they think about his disappearance.

And then he sent his followers on a killing spree more than 40 years ago. Now Charles Manson up for parole for possibly the last time.

And later, I'm going to get some hard core workout tips from one of America's most famous personal trainers. That's right, stick around for my interview with Dolvett Quince from "The Biggest Loser."

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MALVEAUX: New developments in the Trayvon Martin case. The boy's parents are about to hold a news conference any minute now. Now, they're concerned about the whereabouts of the man who shot and killed their son.

Plus, special prosecutor Angela Corey is promising to release new information on the case within days. Our Martin Savidge, who is joining us from Sanford, Florida. Martin, tell us, first of all, why are the parents coming forward with a news conference? Do we think this is going to be something new that's going to be revealed? Why are they speaking?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, it's not quite clear, Suzanne. We do know that they have been, you know, very accessible to the media from the very beginning. That is part of the reason that their story has received such nationwide attention, even in the difficult times, even having to repeat answers to very difficult questions over and over. They have made themselves accessible to the media. So, it's clear that in light of yesterday's dramatic developments, not knowing, according to the former defense team of George Zimmerman, where he is and some questions of his mental health, I think they're ready to talk further about it, and that's probably what this is all about.

MALVEAUX: We talked to them yesterday. It seemed like they were really quite exhausted and beaten down in some ways. Their traveling schedule is incredible now that they are actually going to be making a statement in Washington, D.C. Do we have a sense of whether or not they feel any hope that this is going to be wrapped up soon, that there will be some sort of charge coming from the special prosecutor?

SAVIDGE: You know, they have expressed that. In fact, that was part of the reaction when they heard that Angela Corey said she wasn't going to use a grand jury. One of the first things that the family's response was that they thought this was a good thing and that they were now having full faith in her ability to come up with a decision. Now, it's no secret that the decision they would like to hear is that George Zimmerman is put under arrest and eventually put on trial for the shooting of their son. So, they have had -- recently you have noticed that they are -- it could be part exhaustion, but they seem to have a very solid determination, and that is coming out in the press conferences and in the interviews they give. Speaking of Angela Corey, she was talking a few weeks ago about why an arrest had not happened. And of course, that's what's so frustrating to many people. Here's her explanation then.

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ANGELA COREY, SPECIAL PROSECUTOR: You make an arrest on probable cause and you can't prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, then that's a short window of time that the perpetrator will serve in jail. We always try to work with the police to build stronger cases before we make the arrest.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: That's fairly elemental but it also explains the clear thinking judiciously in her mind. She has a clear idea of how the law is applied and she is using that as a guide for the decision she has to make now. And everyone agrees it is a tough decision either way.

MALVEAUX: Martin, thank you. I want to bring in criminal defense attorney Holly Hughes to talk a little bit about this. You and I were talking about it before. You said you really feel like everybody involved here is not doing the right thing, that people are making mistakes and behaving badly. Can you explain, starting with the -- with the attorney, Zimmerman's attorneys who say, look, you know what? We quit this because we can't find the guy.

HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Right. And everybody is getting away from the fact that we need to keep the focus on this is a shooting and what we need to know is was it a justified shooting. Let's go back to the fact there's a dead teenager here and stop making it about my 15 minutes of fame. I see so many folks getting in front of the camera and they want to have a big riot and talk about their issues. And when you talk about these defense attorneys coming on television, national television, what they should have done in my opinion is said, we no longer represent George Zimmerman, thank you and leave. But what they did was basically throw their former client under the bus. They're talking about he's mentally unstable. He is having some kind of breakdown. Remember, Suzanne, they've never even met the man. They are not mental health experts. They can't give that kind of diagnosis.

MALVEAUX: But one thing they did do, Holly, is they did defend him. And they said this morning before -- and I want our viewers to listen to this, because they believe -- and they said this guy is kind and that he did act in self-defense. Let's listen.

HUGHES: OK.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HAL UHRIG, ATTORNEY: We believe there's information and evidence in the possession of the prosecutor, the investigators, the police department, the department of law enforcement that if publicly known might change some of the course of public opinion. We're not at liberty to disclose it. We don't have possession of it. What little we know might disclose the confidence as to where we learned about it, and we're simply not going to go there.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MALVEAUX: Is he being tried in the court of public opinion here? I mean, does he have a shot at justice?

HUGHES: It's going to be extremely hard to find a fair and impartial jury at this point because this case has been so polarizing. The entire world is watching. This is not just the American press who is interested in this. I've seen other countries reporting on this at this point in time. I have actually been called by other news agencies in Canada and said can you talk about it. So, everybody is watching and that makes it very, very difficult for a fair trial to be had. And I'm not taking one side or the other, but I am saying that, at this point, everyone who is charged with a crime deserves a fair trial, and it's going to be incredibly difficult.

And one of the things you and I talked about on the break, I think it's extremely important to remember is George Zimmerman has been described as he's on the lamb, he's on the run. He's in hide --

MALVEAUX: Right.

HUGHES: He has not been charged with a crime. He's not on the run, he's not on the lamb. He's not absconded from -- he doesn't have any restrictions on him. He can travel freely just like you and I could. If we wanted to get up and leave --

MALVEAUX: And you said he could leave the country.

HUGHES: Of course he could because he's not under indictment. He's not facing a criminal charge right now. So -- and again, I'm not sticking up for him. I want to know what happened out there. I want the facts, and if it's not a justified shooting, I want him in front of a trial court.

MALVEAUX: He could face charges and I think that's probably why the special prosecutor doesn't want him to go too far. But let me ask you this, what do you make of the fact he's disappeared, that people don't know where he is, the attorneys don't know where he is? Does that indicate somebody who is potentially desperate and doesn't feel protected because where could he possibly go in this country --

HUGHES: Absolutely.

MALVEAUX: -- where he would not be faced with somebody who wants to get him?

HUGHES: That's exactly right because we have all seen his face on the news for a month and a half now. It's been 40-some days, right? He is probably, safe to say, the most hated man in America right now. And so, do you really think he could go get a plane ticket? Is he going to check in at the airport and say here is my I.D., George Zimmerman. He can't even stop for gas and go into the gas station, at this point. So the fact that he's in hiding, it tells me he's scared because we hear a lot of rhetoric and a lot of folks who, again, aren't thinking about a legal court of justice. They want to take justice into their own hands. There's been a group announcing a $1 million bounty on his head. If somebody announced a $1 million bounty on my head, Suzanne, I'd be in hiding, too, quite frankly. I don't want to take that chance.

MALVEAUX: All right, we're going to have to see where he is, whether or not he ends up being charged.

HUGHES: Right.

MALVEAUX: And, obviously, we're going to be listening to the victim's parents this hour as well.

HUGHES: Absolutely.

MALVEAUX: Because as you rightfully bring up, this is about the death of a boy.

HUGHES: Right.

MALVEAUX: A young boy.

HUGHES: Absolutely. So sad.

MALVEAUX: We're going to leave it there. Thank you.

HUGHES: Thanks.

MALVEAUX: He said a Beatles song inspired him to send his followers on a killing spree. And that was decades ago. Now Charles Manson's lawyer says it's time he got out of prison. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

MALVEAUX: It's parole hearing day for Charles Manson. This is what the killer, cult leader looked back -- looked like back in 1969 when he went to prison for persuading his followers to kill seven people. This is what he looks like today. He is 77 years old. He has been up for parole 11 times, always denied. Manson's attorney tells CNN he's going to argue that his client should be in a hospital, not a prison cell. Manson has not attended a parole hearing in 15 years.

Well, whenever Charles Manson is in the news, it is particularly tough for one man in Los Angeles. He believes that Charles Manson is his father. CNN's Miguel Marquez met him.

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MATTHEW ROBERTS, MUSICIAN: I live in uncertainty and chaos.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Matthew Roberts is a haunted man. Is he the son, the spawn, of Charles Manson?

ROBERTS: It's like holy hell, it certainly does seem like it's more than just possible but probable.

MARQUEZ: Roberts, adopted as an infant, had, by all accounts, a normal childhood in Rockford, Illinois. In 1998, at age 30, he sought out his birth mother, a recluse living in Wisconsin, who told him he was conceived in 1967 in San Francisco where she met Manson at a drug- fueled orgy.

MARQUEZ (on camera): One account I read of that orgy, there were four men present.

ROBERTS: Yes, that's the way I understand it. Originally that's what I was kind of looking at. There was about a one in four chance.

MARQUEZ (voice-over): Roberts says he wasn't convinced his birth mother knew Manson until he began exchanging letters with prisoner B- 33920. In those letters, Manson quoted things only his birth mother would know. Stories about her early life. So sure he's Manson's son, Roberts has twice tried to get a DNA match. The test, though, inconclusive. Manson's DNA sample, contaminated.

ROBERTS: Unless I see somebody scrape a piece of skin off his ass and bring it to the lab, I want to know that I know.

MARQUEZ: What is unmistakable is not just that Roberts looks like Manson. Here are two photos, both in their 30s. A striking resemblance. The eyes, nose, mouth, and forehead. But it is the way Roberts speaks and what he says that sounds eerily familiar.

CHARLES MANSON: Because every time you send somebody after me, they can't find me because I'm not really there in your minds.

ROBERTS: I know what goes on in my head. You guys can only guess, but I know what goes on in my head. MARQUEZ: Even more eerie, the similarities between the two men run deep. Roberts is a militant vegetarian, pacifist, and considers himself an environmentalist. Claims also made by Charles Manson. Roberts moved to L.A. in 1986. And, like Manson, wanted to be famous. A rock star.

Roberts' band, New Rising Sun, is pure rock and roll. Manson's music more folksy and, at times, downright weird. Today, Roberts pays the bills working at the Blue Zebra Cabaret in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley.

He's been accused of cashing in on Manson's notoriety. Roberts says it's anything but.

ROBERTS: It's ruined my career. It has got me nothing but grief.

MARQUEZ: Roberts just wants to know the truth before the now 77- year-old Manson dies.

ROBERTS: If he is my father, then it would be nice to have laid eyes on him and been in person -- person to person with him once in my lifetime.

MARQUEZ: For now, Matthew Roberts lives with a hope and a fear of knowing who his father is.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

MALVEAUX: Miguel Marquez, he's joining us from Los Angeles.

Miguel, this guy, Matthew Roberts, says he hopes and fears that his father is Charles Manson. He certainly kind of looks like him. Why is he eager to find out either way?

MARQUEZ: To put it to rest. For peace of mind, really, more than anything. He does say that if he had to do it all over again, he would never go down this road again. He, at this point, just wants to know definitively whether he is or not. Those two DNA tests he's tried just have never worked. They were inconclusive. They couldn't get a good enough sample of Manson's DNA.

MALVEAUX: Does he have anything else to gain from having such a notorious father?

MARQUEZ: Well, he has a band and a lot of people have said, look, he's just cashing in, he's trying to promote his band, he's doing this, he's doing that. And to his credit, he hasn't sought out a lot of fame about this. People do contact him. We contacted him to do an interview. So he doesn't really seek it out. But he says, for any good it may have done, for any notoriety that he may glean off of it and any help it may have given him, it's taken away so much more. And at this point I really get the sense that this guy just wants to know.

And it's worth noting that I was skeptical before going into the interview and afterwards I thought his claims seemed a lot more true than I thought before. MALVEAUX: Do we have any idea the chances are of him ever meeting Charles Manson in person?

MARQUEZ: Unlikely. Manson has to agree to it. They haven't had any contact by letter since 2007. Manson is a mercurial figure. He gets upset with just about anything. They had a falling out after several years of communications. If it can be proved definitively that he is his son, it possibly opens the door to a meeting before Manson's death.

MALVEAUX: All right, Miguel Marquez. Thank you, Miguel.

Here's a rundown of some of the stories we are working on.

Next, it is something you can find in almost any medicine cabinet in America. Could be a powerful new tool for the fight against cancer.

And then dieting doesn't mean going hungry anymore if you stick to these super foods.

And later, I'll get a chance to flex a little muscle with one of the personal trainers from the hit show "The Biggest Loser."

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MALVEAUX: A new study suggests aspirin is not only good for curing headaches, also might help with preventing cancer. A report published in the medical journal says daily aspirin doses of 75 milligrams or more might lower incidences of cancer, as well as cancer deaths. Findings are based on six trials that showed sharp reductions in cancer occurrences among people who took aspirin daily. But the study's author say the overall benefits still have to be determined.

So if you're struggling to get rid of those unwanted pounds, maybe it is time to ditch the diet. Focus on the SuperFoods, which some experts say can help you lose weight without even trying. Dr. Steven Pratt, who coined the term, says that SuperFoods are easy to find in supermarkets, they contain nutrients that are critical to a long and healthy life and have scientifically proven health benefits.

So what's on the list? Some of those SuperFoods. Some might, as you expect, broccoli, blueberries, green tea, wild salmon, dark chocolate. Nice. Pratt calls it a healthy indulgence. It helps lower blood pressure. Also, you might have guessed, Pratt says that eating chocolate, well, you've got to do that in moderation.

And from SuperFoods to super size workouts. My next guest, he has made it his mission to change lives, as he says, one rep at a time. Joining me is certified fitness trainer Dolvett Quince from the hit show on NBC, "The Biggest Loser."

Dolvett, it's my favorite show.

DOLVETT QUINCE, TRAINER, "THE BIGGEST LOSER": Is it?

MALVEAUX: It is. It is my favorite show. QUINCE: That's good to know. That is very good to know.

MALVEAUX: It's inspiring. It's really inspiring.

QUINCE: It is.

MALVEAUX: Everybody kind of needs that. And I noticed that last night it was you, the White House, the first lady.

QUINCE: Yes.

MALVEAUX: How'd she do?

QUINCE: She did great. I don't know if you saw the episode. I hope you did.

MALVEAUX: I did. I saw the episode.

QUINCE: She was sweating. She was loving the workout. I yelled at her a little bit. She yelled at me. It was great. I was at home.

MALVEAUX: You're a screamer, too. I mean it kind of scares me a little bit when I watch.

QUINCE: Yes. Yes. I'm a bit of a screamer. But you know what, I'm passionate about what I do. I try to draw the passion out of everyone that kind of encapsulates it and kind of puts it away. So I want you to find the inner athlete in you and it's not going to come by whispering. It never has and it never will.

MALVEAUX: So what draws you to the show? I mean you have written before that you have your own demons that you've overcome and you relate to the folks there because those folks, I mean they have got a big, big climb.

QUINCE: I think it's the relation of overcoming circumstances that weren't in my control. Oftentimes people that are obese, they say that certain things aren't in their control. They use food for comfort, so to speak. My job is to help tap into psychological what is your issue that keeps you going back to this addiction? And hopefully not making it something that after the show you go back to, but you change your lifestyle and in a healthy way.

MALVEAUX: What was yours? What was your issue?

QUINCE: The issue that I suffered from -- I'm adopted. And as an adopted child, I wasn't very close to my adopted parents. So both abusive physically and mentally. So I had to overcome those things. Luckily for me, I was surrounded by some great people, in turn they were. You know a lot of times you say it takes a village to raise a child, and I was truly in an environment that everyone was learning as I grew up, both my adopted parents and well as us as kids.

MALVEAUX: We see on the show a lot of times where the workouts are really intense.

QUINCE: Yes.

MALVEAUX: And how much of this, and controlling your body and your health is about the workouts and extreme exercise and how much of it is about diet?

QUINCE: I would say the percentage -- the key is in the kitchen. The key is in the kitchen. If you can transform the way you eat, everything from portion size to the quality of food, your body will have the energy to have a great exercise. But you can't eat bad things that make you lethargic, fried foods, heavy things, et cetera. Your workouts are going to be limited in your ability. It has to be the proper marriage, the proper complement.

MALVEAUX: We see those folks losing a lot of weight. Do they go back -- is it typical that they gain the weight back after the show or do they do well in keeping it off?

QUINCE: Most people do well. We have a high percentage of people that come off this show that do extremely well. Those that do fail, psychologically they're not where they should be. So it's still some fat in the brain they need to get off.

MALVEAUX: Fat in the brain. I have a little fat in the body as well. I'm not going to let you go away without at least showing me how to do a little something.

QUINCE: You want to do a little something? OK. If you're ready, I'm ready.

MALVEAUX: I'm ready. People at lunchtime --

(CROSSTALK)

QUINCE: I got this cast on right now from a workout but we're still going to get it in for you.

MALVEAUX: All right. What do I need to do?

QUINCE: Let's do some dips. I'm a huge fan of toning the back of your arm. Stand in front of this bench and have a seat face forward. Good. Slide your rump off of the bench and let your rump go up and down, then down and up. That's it.

MALVEAUX: OK.

QUINCE: Doing this, pressing your own body weight, you're toning your arms. You feel that working?

MALVEAUX: Yes, I do.

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

MALVEAUX: My arms are like --

QUINCE: Absolutely.

MALVEAUX: I can feel them. My arms are shaking.

QUINCE: Two more. Two more. Two more. Come on. Come on. Give it to me. Let's go. Let's go. Good job. Have a seat. Have a seat.

Grab the bench right behind you. Stay right there.

MALVEAUX: OK.

QUINCE: Grab the bench right behind you, Suzanne, right there. Grab it. You got it. Bring your knees to your chest. This particular workout, up and down, back and forth. Give me those reps. If you notice --

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

QUINCE: Careful, I got you.

MALVEAUX: OK.

QUINCE: Nothing is going to happen. Bring it up and down.

MALVEAUX: That's all abs.

QUINCE: That's all abs. Upper abs, lower abs.

MALVEAUX: Can you do this at work? Lunch break, yes?

QUINCE: I love this one. A lot of people just concentrate on their upper abs. Any time you lift your legs --

MALVEAUX: I can feel this.

QUINCE: -- you're working your lower abs, too. You feel that working?

MALVEAUX: God, yes.

QUINCE: Yes. Good. We have some weights behind us. Five- pounders right there.

MALVEAUX: OK.

QUINCE: Good. Put the weights by your ear and press it straight up to the ceiling.

MALVEAUX: Straight up to the ceiling.

QUINCE: Yes. Again, at home, at work, wherever you are. You can do things like this. You're toning your arms. Look at you shaking. Look at you working.

(CROSSTALK)

(LAUGHTER)

QUINCE: I love it. I love it. Keep going.

MALVEAUX: This is great.

QUINCE: You have 400 more. 401.

(LAUGHTER)

Good. There you go.

MALVEAUX: Thank god we've got a break coming up, so.

QUINCE: Good job. Finish out with some biceps.

MALVEAUX: All right. We've got it.

QUINCE: Tone the front of your arms. One at a time. Go.

MALVEAUX: One at a time. One at a time.

QUINCE: One at a time. One at a time.

MALVEAUX: All right. You know what, this break is going to save me.

We're going to take a quick break and we'll have more in just a few minutes.

QUINCE: Keep going. Keep going. We're not done yet.

MALVEAUX: Really? Are you kidding me?

QUINCE: We're not done yet. Keep moving. Let's go. Let's go. Pick it up! Pick it up! There you go.

(LAUGHTER)

Good job.

(LAUGHTER)

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MALVEAUX: Enormously popular movie "The Hunger Games" getting a sequel, but it's going to have a different director.

Nischelle Turner is live from Los Angeles.

Nischelle, tell us why Gary Ross turned down making the film.

NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: I will, Suzanne. But first of all, you're not going to let me get away with not saying anything to you about that workout. I'm telling you, Dolvett was giving you the business -- Suzanne?

(LAUGHTER)

MALVEAUX: He started yelling at me.

TURNER: You looked good.

MALVEAUX: He started yelling at me like he normally does on that show. He got me moving, I tell you.

TURNER: Exactly. You were like, OK, you don't have to yell, I'm going to do it.

But, no --

(LAUGHTER)

-- definitely let's talk some "Hunger Games." Very surprising news. The director of the blockbuster, Gary Ross, is not going to be participating in the sequel, "Catching Fire," essentially due to the tight turn around time between the films. Both Ross and the studio behind the movie are calling the parting amicable, and Gary released an emotional statement. He called "The Hunger Games" the happiest experience of his professional life. He added, quote, "I have decided not to direct 'Catching Fire.' As a writer and director, I simply don't have the time I need to write and prep the movie I would have wanted to make because of the fixed and tight production schedule." That's what he's saying.

There was a little talk, Suzanne, about maybe they couldn't come to terms on money, but as far as Gary saying publicly it's about time.

MALVEAUX: All right. Nischelle, I'm going to invite you to my workout with Dolvett. We're going to do a workout session.

TURNER: I'm there.

MALVEAUX: A lot of people would sign up for that.

Thanks, Nischelle.

Don't forget to catch "Showbiz Tonight" on HLN week nights at 11:00 p.m. eastern.

The images we're used to seeing from Liberia are war, poverty, child soldiers. Well, now there are new glimmers of hope. We'll get a look at the changing face of this African nation.

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MALVEAUX: It's been almost a year since U.S. Special Forces killed the most wanted man in the world. New details about the mission that took out Osama bin Laden are coming from those in the know. The fresh account of the tense, agonizing moments during the bin Laden raid comes from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. At a conference at a U.S. Naval Academy, she talked about those extraordinary moments huddling in the White House situation room as the mission unfolded.

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HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF STATE: When we gathered that Sunday, it was a pretty intense, tense, stressful time, because the people who were actually doing it on the ground were thousands of miles away. We did have good communications. So in the White House there's a large situation room in the whole protected sort of secret area in the basement. And there are smaller rooms, so we were in one of the smaller rooms when the attack began, and we were able to have some communication. So we were in real-time aware of what was happening. And I'm not sure anybody breathed for, you know, 35 or 37 minutes. And for me, the worst part was when one of the helicopters -- if you remember looking at drawings of what the compound looked like, there was a yard, and there was a wall. And as the helicopter went in, the tail got stuck, and it was not flyable. That had been planned for, but it was still somewhat, you know, worrisome that this had occurred.

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MALVEAUX: Last hour, I talked with our national security contributor, Fran Townsend, about watching this mission play out like that in real time.

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FRANCES TOWNSEND, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTOR: Welcome to technology. The ability to actually track a mission in real time inside the West Wing of the White House in the Situation Room is new. We often would have -- not a raid on a bin Laden compound. Obviously, the tension associated with that and the risk is much higher, but we would have counterterrorism operations where we were working with partners around the world, and I and others from the inner agency would be collating and assembly information but it was nowhere near real time.

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MALVEAUX: Authorities used DNA and facial recognition technology to confirm that it was bin Laden who was killed in the raid.

Well, the images we are used to seeing from Liberia are of war, poverty, child soldiers. Now there are new glimmers of hope. We're going to get a look at the changing face of this African nation.

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MALVEAUX: The deep scars of war are starting to heal in Liberia. It's still one of the poorest countries in the world but there's a new spirit of hope.

Our Brenda Bush is from Liberia. She's a producer and writer on our production team here. And she went back to visit. She's reporting that the country is making a comeback.

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BRENDA BUSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): I turned a corner and came up on these kids dancing in the streets. And it struck me, almost 10 years ago, children this age were killing and dying in these same streets. I will never forget the horrific images of Liberia's child soldiers, armed and deadly.

It was difficult to watch my country, the place I was born and raised, embroiled in one of the most brutal civil wars. I was one of the lucky ones because I was able to flee the violence.

I have made many trips back to visit family through the years, but this time the spirit is different. Liberia is clearly making a comeback and the family member I'm visiting now is my very American daughter who decided to move to Liberia after college. She says this is one of her favorite places in the city, a sprawling marketplace.

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BUSH: Everything can be found here for a bargain, from handmade bags and shoes to carvings, clothes, and food, but you have got to love to shop to hang out down here.

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BUSH: Broad Street which runs through the heart of downtown is another bustling part of the city. The quickest though not the safest way to get around is to hop on a motor bike or moped. They're called penpads (ph) in these parts. There's a constant whirring sound.

You can escape it all at the beach. Tourists aren't exactly flocking to Liberia yet, but they are starting to come. Several hotels have opened up. And I'm told Liberia has some of the best surfing in the world. Sunday is beach days.

(on camera): Liberians have a saying that the country is sweeter. And I'm hearing more and more of it these days.

PIA BROWN, LIBERIAN: This is an amazing time for Liberia. Everybody knows Liberia is on a path to sustained peace.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a place to be right now. Just had to be part of it.

BUSH (voice-over): There's no doubt that a long, difficult road is ahead of this struggling nation by the sea. An entire generation of children was unable to go to school because of the war. So for me, the sight of kids with their backpacks heading to school is the promise for this country's future. I know many Liberian children still have a heavy load to bear, but there are no longer child soldiers on these streets and hopefully one day all the Liberian children will have a reason to dance.

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Brenda, that's just a beautiful piece. I'm so glad you did this, that you went back to your home country and you were visiting your daughter. It's just a wonderful story, a personal story as well.

BUSH: Thank you.

MALVEAUX: Tell us a little bit about what it was like.

BUSH: I have been back many, many times. I think this time you could just feel the change. The spirit is so different. You know, this is still very much a war-torn country, so I don't want people to think all is well in Liberia. It isn't. There's still lack of water, lack of electricity. There's lack of education, lack of health care. Those things still exist.

But the change is without a doubt in the mood of the people. There's optimism. It's reflective of Africans' fight -- we have this fight in us to survive. And really it's the human spirit, really. All people, you know? So coming out of this war, people are really ready to improve their lives and we see it, I could see it. And I was just so happy.

MALVEAUX: And I believe it, coming from you. You talked about how there were these child soldiers. Do you think that violence that is -- will that come back?

BUSH: That is the horror of our history. We had children who were killers. They were forced to kill, taught to kill, and they were brutal. So we, the government with the international community, has really done a lot to change the children from ex-combatants. We literally turned a corner and there were these children dancing. It was my husband, my daughter and me. They were doing the Dougie, dancing hip hop. My husband and I sat and looked. We said, our children have their childhoods back.

MALVEAUX: Wow, that is so powerful. It gave us chills.

And tell me a little bit about your daughter. You talk about her all the time with our team. We want the rest of the country to hear about her as well. She decided to move back. Was that surprising for you?

BUSH: It was crazy. Here's this girl who grew up in Georgia, but she went back because she loved Liberia. I thought, why would you give up electricity, running water. You have to bathe in a bucket. Bucket baths, candles. She went and stayed in the home where I grew up. And it was just -- you now know what, so many other children born in America by Liberian parents are moving back to Liberia. They love this country. And they are ready to make a change there. And I said, you know what, this is a nation making a comeback. I love it.

MALVEAUX: Well, your daughter is doing amazing things.

Brenda, you did an amazing job the reporting that you did. It's very moving, very touching. And all on your vacation, too.

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You don't stop.

BUSH: Well, you know, Suzanne, I have to say, I was there for the bloodshed when it started, and to see this country now -- you know, I was able to leave because my father had money. People in Liberia were not able to leave. The poor people. They were the ones who suffered the most. So to go back and see things getting better, there's nothing like it.

MALVEAUX: It's unbelievable.

Well, thanks. It's very inspiring, Brenda. Very proud to have you as a team member.

BUSH: Thank you.

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MALVEAUX: All right, forget those whiskey blues. It is bourbon boom. That's right, sweet southern whiskey catching on with a whole new generation. That's good for the distilleries and the state of Kentucky. Take a look.

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MALVEAUX: Jim Beam may sound like your grandfather's drink, but it's making a resurgence around the world.

Poppy Harlow's got the story.

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POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's almost as old as this country.

FRED NOE, MASTER DISTILLER, JIM BEAM: The nectar of the gods.

HARLOW: Bourbon. Perhaps not since prohibition have this many people wanted to drink it.

(on camera): What has happened in just the last past few years with bourbon?

NOE: It's going through a renaissance. Exporting bourbon around the world. People from Australia, Germany, the U.K., the Far East, they're discovering bourbon and liking it.

HARLOW (voice-over): The great grandson of Jim Beam took us on a tour of their distillery.

(on camera): This is bourbon country? NOE: Yes, ma'am. Right where we're standing, within 65 percent of where we are, 95 percent of the world's bourbon is produced.

HARLOW: There are more barrels of bourbon in Kentucky right now than people. 4.7 million barrels aging in the Bluegrass State.

NOE: We have almost two million barrels of bourbon aging here at our facility.

HARLOW (voice-over): But why the popularity now?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because it's a story to tell of America's native spirit. It has heritage, craftsmanship, authenticity, and people want to hear those stories.

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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: That's the way I got in.

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HARLOW: Or maybe it's the "Mad Men" effect.

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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I'm doing my best here.

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NOE: Bourbon was kind of considered your dad's drink or granddad's drink. Nobody fooled with it much. We're starting to see the growth. It's grown leaps and bounds.

HARLOW: Or maybe it's the women.

NOE: We're learning that, hey, the female market is a big market. And for years, everybody neglected the women because they never thought they would drink bourbon.

HARLOW (on camera): Last year alone, almost $1.4 billion of liquor was exporting in America. Almost 70 percent of that was whiskey. And a big portion, bourbon. Why? Because you can't make it just anywhere.

(voice-over): In 1964, Congress decreed bourbon a distinct product of the United States, just like Scotch only comes from Scotland. That's what's keeping these jobs in Kentucky.

NOE: It is America's native spirit. It's as America as it gets.

HARLOW: And America still sells.

(on camera): Is this the busiest year you've had yet?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, yes.

HARLOW: No question?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No question.

HARLOW (voice-over): Makers Mark shipped out more than 12 million bottles of bourbon last year. Jim Beam turns out 180 bottles a minute. And the Kentucky bourbon trail gets 450,000 visits a year.

(on camera): This is one thing you can never outsource no matter what?

NOE: No, ma'am. This is something we've been doing in Kentucky. We've been doing it for over 200 years and we'll do it for 200 years in the future.

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MALVEAUX: Poppy, how much is the international market, China, India, fueling this big bourbon boom?

HARLOW: That's a great question. They're a huge driver. You've got this wealthier class rising in India, in China. They are buying this all of a sudden. That's a big part. When we talk about the global economy, the wobbly recovery and the questions about China's growth, that plays into this. If they continue not to do as well, that's going to mean the production in Kentucky will fall because the demand won't be as high. But they haven't seen that at all right now.

It was so interesting to see such an American industry doing so well and what it means for these very rural small towns in Kentucky. But Congress declared that bourbon has to come from the United States.

HARLOW: And how many jobs does it actually creates here?

HARLOW: When you talk Beam, which owns Jim Beam, they own Maker's Mark, they're the biggest liqueur company in the work, they actually increased their jobs in Kentucky. They went from 650 jobs five years ago to 950 jobs. Increased pretty dramatically. They've invested millions and they're going to continue to. They're the biggest liquor company in the U.S. So it's good to see that happening there.

MALVEAUX: Poppy Harlow. Thank you, Poppy. Good report, as always.

CNN NEWSROOM continues right now with Brooke Baldwin.

Hey, Brooke.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: I see that Poppy Harlow got there, Suzanne.

Thank you so much.