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LAPD Before And After The Riots; Zimmerman's Bond Could Be Raised; Dolphin In Shallow Waters; Space Shuttle Shuffle; House Extends Student Low Interest; Stranded Dolphins Too Close To Shore; Hollywood's New Power Players

Aired April 27, 2012 - 14:00   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, Suzanne. Thank you very much. Have a wonderful weekend.

And, hello, I'm Brooke Baldwin. Top of the hour. Let's get you caught up on everything making news right now. "Rapid Fire." Roll it.

First up, George Zimmerman's attorney back in court today. At issue this time, money. Money Zimmerman raised on his own website to defend himself in the killing of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. You see, the money wasn't disclosed during his bond hearing last week and Zimmerman's attorney says he just found out about it.

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MARK O'MARA, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S ATTORNEY: I then realize, in the discussion as he was setting it up to send it to me, that there was about $200,000 to $204,000 that was contributed in the past 30 to 45 days from the public into that account.

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BALDWIN: With this new financial information revealed, prosecutors want Zimmerman's bond upped. The judge says he wants more information before ruling on that.

Also, an armed siege that shut down a busy shopping area in central London is over. A man is now under arrest after engaging police in a standoff that lasted several hours. Police say they were concerned the man might have had explosives attached to his body and that he might blow himself up.

The Pentagon is ordering all branches of the military to check their training course work and remove any material that is anti-Islam. Why? This comes after a student at the Joint Forces Staff College in Virginia complained that some class material stated the U.S. is at war with Islam.

And I want you to take a look at this video real closely here. You see this van? All right, so this is a van. This is Florida surveillance video. And you're going to see a woman, wait for it, a woman being pulled toward the van. There she is hanging out the window. You see her purse is getting snatched. This is a Wal-Mart parking lot. This is West Milburn. She's still hanging on to that purse when the van pulls away.

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KAREN RAKES, DRAGGING VICTIM: And I was being holding up only by my armpit. It was only a matter of time before I either fell off and got pulled under the car or my feet got so shredded or something.

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BALDWIN: Yieks. Take a look here. This is one of the two women under arrest. The charge, robbery by sudden snatching.

And in the fight over charging sales tax online, Amazon blinks. The company that sells books and music and really just about anything online agreed today to charge sales tax on purchases made by buyers in Texas. So, Amazon will start collecting sales tax starting July 1st. The huge retailer also says it's going to bring in 2,500 jobs to Texas and invest $200 million into that particular state.

And a photo you want -- the kid of photo you don't really see very often. Hello, bear. Obviously snapped after police shot this bear. They shot the bear with a tranquilizer gun. The bear had wondered onto the University of Colorado, climbed a tree near student housing. Can you imagine looking at this out your dorm window? So after a couple of hours, wildlife officials decided it was time for him to go. So they put a mattress -- don't want to, you know, have to have this bear have a hard fall. So they put a mattress under the tree to cushion the fall, then tranquilize the bear and now said bear is off and happy in the Rocky Mountains. Don't exactly see that very often.

And space shuttle Enterprise, welcome to New York. The shuttle is going into retirement and New York is its new home. Enterprise made the trip piggy back on a 747. It did a special fly-by there around the Statue of Liberty. Enterprise is part of the Intrepid Air and Space Museum and now (INAUDIBLE) to retire.

And this just in to us here at CNN. Detroit Tigers outfielder Delmon Young is being investigated for a hate crime in New York. Police say Young appeared drunk when they got to the scene outside of the New York Hilton. Apparently he got into a fight with a 26-year-old man and both ended up injured. Right now, the charge against Young are aggravated harassment, but police say there were some, quote, "religious statements" made during the dispute just outside this hotel and that's whether there is an investigation of a hate crime. The Detroit Tigers say they don't comment on legal matters. Obviously, doesn't look like Delmon Young will be playing while the Tigers are in New York here playing this three-game series, has a game tonight.

And with that, we still have a lot more for you, obviously, in the next two hours, including this.

Three young men were arrested with guns and ammo. Police say they were planning a terror attack ahead of the bin Laden death anniversary.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

The interest rate on your student loan set to double if Congress doesn't act. We'll tell you what they're deciding today.

A husband and wife forced to move after their names were smeared online. Even accused of a rape that never happened. And now they're millionaires.

And bridal gowns galore. My buddy, Monty Durham (ph), shows off the hottest fashion for that walk down the aisle, and I'll even ask for some red carpet fashion advice of my own.

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BALDWIN: It has been 20 years now since riots erupted in Los Angeles. Tempers flared, businesses were destroyed, and the police force was under heavy scrutiny after four police officers were acquitted in the beating of a driver they pulled over, Rodney King. So, two decades later, has anything changed? Are L.A. Police any closer to answering King's memorable question, can't we all just get along? Take a look at this report from CNN's Casey Wian.

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RODNEY KING, POLICE BEATING VICTIM: And I really thought I was, you know, about to die in there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Theodore J. Briseno, not guilty of the crime of officer unnecessarily assaulting or beating any person.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today the system failed us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Timothy E. Wind, not guilty.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is a damn shame.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stacey C. Koon, not guilty.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The police force is not here to kill, but it's here to protect them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Lawrence M. Powell, not guilty.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't believe it. What is this city coming to?

CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Much of the city of angels came to resemble hell, with structure fires, rampant looting, mob violence targeting innocent bystanders, heavily armed Korean merchants and the symbol of the African-American community's rage, police headquarters.

MARK CRAIG, PROTESTER: That's one of the most proudest moments of my life. And I was standing in front of a burning kiosk at Los Angeles Police Department. The kiosk turns over and for some reason I decided to jump on top of it and there history was made. What was going through my mind at the time was just pain and hurt and basically the willingness to die that night for the cause.

WIAN: More than 50 people did die during the riots. Estimated property damage, $1 billion.

ROSALINA NIEVES, CNN ASSIGNMENT EDITOR: It was set on fire.

WIAN: Rosalina Nieves was nine years old and lived just blocks from the epicenter, Florence and Normandie.

NIEVES: It looked like a war zone. They were stopping cars and it looked like they were going into what was then a Tom's liquor store and just looting and stealing things. I just remember being really scared and wondering what -- if that was coming towards us.

WIAN: LAPD Commander Andrew Smith was a street cop then.

CMDR. ANDREW SMITH, LOS ANGELES POLICE: It was clear that we weren't taking control of the city and I think that message got out to everybody. They saw what happening in these little small pockets and they just decided, hey, it's a free for all in Los Angeles.

WIAN: Under then Chief Daryl Gates (ph) the LAPD embraced its reputation for aggressively fighting drugs and gangs.

WIAN (on camera): In the 20 years since the riots, the Los Angeles Police Department has gone through many changes. The most visible, this brand-new headquarters building downtown. The most significant, serious reform to the LAPD's culture.

SMITH: We need to remember that we can't do it alone. It's not the LAPD as an occupying army going into a neighborhood and showing people how to do it and taking care of business and being the aggressive folks out there. We need to recognize that we have to work with people to solve the problems.

WIAN (voice-over): More than 10,000 National Guard troops and pleas from community leaders finally ended the riots after six days. At least a billion dollars was spent to rebuild L.A. Two of the four police officers on the beating tape were convicted of federal civil rights charges. Rodney King won a $3.8 million settlement.

KING: It means that I've learned just how to forgive, so I can be able to move on.

WIAN: The city also has moved on, though painful memories remain for those who were there.

Casey Wian, CNN, Los Angeles.

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BALDWIN: Casey Wian, thank you.

A quick reminder to all of you. Please watch Sunday -- CNN this Sunday night. We're going to bring you what we're calling "Race and Rage: The Beating of Rodney King." A CNN Presents special Sunday, 8:00 Eastern.

NASA. NASA is moving its shuttles to these amazing museums all around the country for you to see in person. Today, check it out. This one in New York. The Enterprise will join the Intrepid. Coming up next, you're going to hear how your family can enjoy the next step for this American shuttle.

And spring is here. So are weddings. Come say yes to the Dress Atlanta. TLC's Monty Durham is in studio seven. We're getting these beautiful dresses ready to roll. Thank you, Kyra (ph). For his top picks to the bridal season and a big question, what will Angelina wear? That's trending and that is coming up.

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BALDWIN: Right now a judge is deciding whether to raise the bond amount for the man who shot Trayvon Martin, after finding out that George Zimmerman is not exactly as broke as everyone was led to believe. You see, Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O'Mara, revealed on CNN that his client pulled in more than $200,000 through this website he created. There wasn't a peep about that particular amount of money during Zimmerman's bond hearing about a week ago when O'Mara claimed his client was indigent, couldn't afford a high amount. Zimmerman was not in court today, but O'Mara was. This was from his first hearing there.

Now, he said he didn't learn about the money until just a couple of days ago. Until, Wednesday. Three days after Zimmerman was released after posting that 10 percent of his $150,000 bond. Prosecutors here, they want Zimmerman's bond raised. And an attorney for Trayvon Martin's family wants to see it revoked all together. But O'Mara still says Zimmerman is not a flight risk.

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MARK O'MARA, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S ATTORNEY: You know, the evidence is that he had money that he didn't use to leave with. So I think it shows not only his position of staying involved in the process, but I'm also quite happy that there were enough people out there who felt it in their hearts that they wanted to support somebody like George and have given that much money.

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BALDWIN: The judge says he wants a little bit more information about Zimmerman's fundraising before he actually decides whether to hike that bond amount.

I want to bring in CNN legal analyst Mark Nejame, who's on the case with us today.

Mark, good to see you back here.

MARK NEJAME, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Nice to see you. BALDWIN: First question, will the judge make Zimmerman fork over more money now that we know he's raised $200,000 on the website?

NEJAME: It's possible the judge might increase the bond a bit. It was already a rather high bond in light of his financial circumstances. The fact of the matter is, I think a lot of people forget is that Zimmerman turned himself in. He could have gone to any part of the world before there was an arrest warrant out for him and he could have left the country. There was no requirements that he stay here. And he voluntarily turned himself in. Was apparently in touch with Florida Department of Law Enforcement throughout. And when there was a warrant issued, he drove himself in. So, a flight risk seems a bit of a stretch. The issue to the money does have to be gotten into, but I think that --

BALDWIN: So you don't think the judge -- you don't think the judge will hike the bond?

NEJAME: He may hike it a little bit just to -- because there's extra assets there that they didn't otherwise know about. But I think that if the judge is satisfied that $150,000 is enough to secure his appearance in court, he'll leave it the same. If he increases it, it will be a bit, but he's definitely not going to revoke it in my opinion.

BALDWIN: OK, well let me -- let me ask you this. Let's go back in time. Let's say this judge had known that Zimmerman had this $200,000 because of this website, do you think it would have made a difference at the bond hearing a week ago?

NEJAME: It could have.

BALDWIN: Yes.

NEJAME: It could have. But he didn't have it at the time. And that's what's interesting. At least we don't know that he had it at the time. If you look at the time line on this, Zimmerman had only set up his website a short time before he turned himself in and then he was in jail for a week before they had the bond hearing. So nobody had access to that, his lawyer or Zimmerman, to know what kind of money was in there. So I think that they said they didn't know. And then surprisingly, when they were shutting it down to do it -- you know, once O'Mara took it over and apparently setting up a proper account to monitor and all that, they found out that was there and he disclosed it with transparency, which is exactly what's supposed to be done.

BALDWIN: Well, we know --

NEJAME: I think that is --

BALDWIN: Well, let me just say that --

NEJAME: Go ahead.

BALDWIN: We know that, you know, Mark O'Mara has said, you know, absolutely George Zimmerman is indigent. He needs a little help. We know over the week when Zimmerman was in jail, O'Mara claims his family was having trouble just scraping that 10 percent of that bond, that $15,000 together. At the time, was that a lie?

NEJAME: No. I mean obviously not. And he said he didn't know -- even on the court testimony, they didn't know what was in the account.

BALDWIN: OK.

NEJAME: They didn't think there was much in there. And all that money came afterwards. And here's what's important to know, he was otherwise indigent, which meaning the taxpayers of the state of Florida were going to be funding his cost for the defense. Now, with money, they don't have to go to the taxpayers' coffers to pay for this. It can be paid for out of private funds.

BALDWIN: So you don't -- you don't think they will still try to get him declared indigent, thus meaning the taxpayers will fork over --

NEJAME: Absolutely not.

BALDWIN: You don't?

NEJAME: He's no longer indigent. They can't do it. He's not indigent any longer.

BALDWIN: Got it.

NEJAME: He's now $200,000 richer.

BALDWIN: Got it.

In terms of the money now that's been raised on this website, do you think that there will be a requirement to reveal the names of these folks who donated to Zimmerman?

NEJAME: I think not. I -- you know, the Martin family also has a website. Both sides have websites. It's appropriate for both. The Martins have gone through a tremendous tragedy and loss in their lives and they have lawyers that have to be paid for. So apparently there's people who are providing moneys to each side, which I think is wholly appropriate. And if somebody has money and they want to do something with it, really, who's money -- whose business is it if they want to give it to a private person?

BALDWIN: Is it unusual -- is it unusual to --

NEJAME: Very unusual. For the average case, but not for a high publicity case anymore, no. Big cases take a lot of time, a lot of effort. Any professional costs. The lawyer costs money. And that's what's need because there are -- I mean I was offered this case and I turned it down.

BALDWIN: Right.

NEJAME: There is an enormous, enormous amount of time put in this. That takes away from your family. That really sucks the life blood out of you. So to get somebody paid on both sides, whether it's Trayvon's family or Zimmerman's attorneys, I don't think that's inappropriate at all --

BALDWIN: All right, well we --

NEJAME: If somebody wants to do that with their money. It's their money to spend.

BALDWIN: Right, their own volition if they want to pay that money to George Zimmerman.

Mark Nejame, thank you so much.

NEJAME: Thanks so much.

BALDWIN: We'll wait and see if this judge ups the bond at all. We do know he is out.

Hey, we're getting some news. Let's take a look at these live pictures together. So what we're looking at -- thank you KABC for these aerial pictures. Huntington Beach, California. So the deal is, if you can see it in the water, that is a dolphin. And this dolphin apparently is a little too close to the beach, to the shore. It appears to be kind of -- I don't know, you're looking with me, kind of swimming in circles here. This is a channel near a nature conservancy. Marine rescue crews, I'm told, are watching here as the dolphin is circling. This is very, very shallow water. They're trying to see -- I'm imagining that's who's -- it looks like two people maybe there on the shore, trying to see if the dolphin's OK. Bystanders, they're on the road nearby as well.

Chad Myers -- here we go. We're looking at a closer shot of this dolphin. Do we know how shallow the water is and how the dolphin wound up here in the first place?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: This is actually on the other side of the beach. This is not the Pacific Ocean. This is the ecological preserve kind of like. This is the wet lands.

BALDWIN: OK.

MYERS: The swampy area on the -- what would be the east side of Huntington Beach. On the east side of the show. And so there's not many ways in or out for this little dolphin. Been swimming around in circles for a couple of hours now according to KABC.

BALDWIN: A couple of hours. Oh, wow.

MYERS: Yes. As first spotted there by KABC -- by people on the shore seeing him there. There's a way in and way out. They just have to figure out how to get the dolphin back out the way he came in. And the only way to do that may be to try to kind of push it along or scare it along into the right direction, because right now he doesn't know whether he's going left or right. It's kind of -- it's a north- south part of the beach right there. Huntington Beach. I know you know the area. It's called Bolsa Chica Preserve down there.

BALDWIN: OK. Well, so, we'll keep watching the picture and --

MYERS: I'll keep watching and I'll keep you up-to-date when I see something new. OK, we'll do.

BALDWIN: Yes, let us know if they're table to get this little guy out of there.

Chad Myers, thank you. We'll keep an eye on the dolphin in Huntington Beach, California.

I want to get this one, though. A father of an autistic child sends him to school with a hidden microphone. Take a listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, boy. Knock it off!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go ahead and scream, because guess what? You're going to get nothing until your mouth is shut.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Wow. Well, guess what, the father of that young child is now speaking out. The teacher whose voice you heard has hired a lawyer and we're following that story for you.

Plus, the space shuttle Enterprise landed in New York. It's soon going to be on the banks of the Hudson River near the Intrepid Museum. That's the final resting place. Fellow space geek John Zarrella all over this one. We're going to talk space and the Enterprise next.

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BALDWIN: All right, just because we can, we wanted to take you back to this live picture. So we've been talking about this dolphin circling for hours and hours and hours. But alas, there is a seagull that has apparently come to check in on the dolphin. We have just noticed this. We've been watching this little -- you see the little white dot sort of in the middle of your screen? That's the seagull. So, folks, if you are drive on the PCH, the Pacific Coast Highway there in Huntington Beach, California, area, and you see some people kind of getting out and checking this out, this is the Bolsa Chica Conservancy area. This is the wetland sides. So you have the PCH in the middle, you have the Pacific on one side, you have the conservancy on the other. And that is where this dolphin and the seagull are.

And there are folks, right, Chad, there are folks trying to figure out how they're going to get this dolphin back in the Pacific?

MYERS: And I think you have to scare it in the right direction. You know, people are saying in my ear, can't they just put a swimmer in and the dolphin would follow the swimmer? BALDWIN: Not that easy.

MYERS: I think it would be the opposite way, I think the dolphin would swim away from the swimmer. You don't know. You'd have to see what it -- but I think that the seagull's just there looking for good and thinking that the dolphin's going to get something and he's going to get a piece of what the dolphin --

BALDWIN: Here I'm am. I'm like, oh, there's a seagull.

MYERS: Well, he's not trying to help it back to the ocean, Brooke.

BALDWIN: No, I know that. I know that. Thank you very much, Chad Myers. So we're going to keep an eye on this and we're going to see --

MYERS: All right.

BALDWIN: We're going to see if we can get any pictures if anyone tries to rescue this dolphin there, Huntington Beach, California.

I do want to move along here. It is moving day for much of the nation here. Now that they have all been retired, the space shuttles are being shuffled around. The most traveled of the shuttles, Discovery, moving to an exhibit in Chantilly, Virginia. Part of the Smithsonian. We saw that piggyback from Kennedy Space Center. What was that, last week? That means the shuttle's going to get there -- get a new home.

Enterprise, that's the news today. Enterprise going on display in New York. And to get there, from Virginia it flew piggyback on a specially fitted -- I mean I can never get over looking at these pictures. When do you ever see this -- piggybacking on a Boeing 747. And people now all up and down the Northeast coastline enjoyed watching the move, including Leonard Nimoy, Mr. Spock from the TV show "Star Trek." I apologize, Trekkies, if I messed his last name. But that's right, a little bit of trivia for you. Enterprise got its name from the TV show's fans.

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LEONARD NIMOY, PLAYED "MR. SPOCK" on "STAR TREK": When Gerald Ford was president at the time, he got a big load of letters from "Star Trek" fans who were very good at writing letters. They convinced the president that the ship should be named Enterprise. And that's the way it came about.

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BALDWIN: Leonard Nimoy. Leonard Nimoy, John Zarrella. Of course I'd be corrected here if you were listening to that. Not a Trekkie. I apologize. But let's talk about this. I mean I just can't get over the piggybacking picture. Do we know -- so it was on the 747 and then it goes up the Hudson, correct?

JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Yes, you know, what -- and it's funny you mention that. There's this great picture that we showed earlier today of all of the "Star Trek" cast standing in front of Enterprise as it was rolled out from the Rockwell plant in Palmdale, California, back in 1977. But the only guy who wasn't there was William Shatner, and we still haven't gotten any answers to why he wasn't there. Captain Kirk.

But, yes, you know, it landed. It was a spectacular landing today. Just like they did with Discovery when it flew around Washington, D.C.

BALDWIN: Yes.

ZARRELLA: Enterprise flew all around New York, up and down the Hudson, passed the Statue of Liberty, by the Sea, Air and Space Museum, the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum, which will be its home. So now it's on the ground. It's at JFK. It's going to stay there until the first week in June. It's going to be encased in a special bubble to keep it from being exposed to the elements, which is one of the requirement's NASA's put on that. And then it's going to be put on a barge and barged up the Hudson River and lifted up onto the deck of the Intrepid in June.

BALDWIN: That's the picture I want to see.

ZARRELLA: Yes. Yes.

BALDWIN: The Enterprise on that barge up the Hudson.

Hey, can you give us a little history 101 of the Enterprise?

ZARRELLA: Yes, absolutely. You know, the first shuttle that was built. It never flew in space. It actually flew piggyback on the back of a 747 about 10 times. And what they were doing was flight testing to make sure that everything that NASA had put into the design of space shuttles would work for reentry, to come back, to glide. Remember, the space shuttle glides back to earth. Not under power of engines. So they had to check to see if it all worked. So they dropped it off of the 747. You can see it there in those images from back in 1977. And that was over California, the Mojave Desert. It worked just great. Although they did find a few things in the last tests that made them go back to the drawing board a little bit on "Columbia" and change the design just a little bit. So "Enterprise" is not quite exactly like the shuttles that flew in space.

BALDWIN: Well, I know the current administrator, Charlie Bolden, he was in the driver seat of the "Discovery." He is going to be on next hour.

Hope you join me next hour, John Zarrella, as we talk about retirement and how this is also bittersweet. I want to know what's next. You know, we're relying on Russia to get our guys and gals up to space.

I want to know what's next for the U.S. So you and I will have that conversation with Administrator Bolden next hour. Thank you. All week, you have seen the president at various universities all across the country. He's been touting the importance of student loans. But now he might be vetoing legislation, keeping loan rates low. We're going to go live to Capitol Hill for an explanation.

Stick around if you're paying any of those, also a father sends his son to school with a wireless microphone so he can record any kind of abuse this child might be getting from a teacher. So the teacher now has hired a lawyer. We've got it all for you next.

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BALDWIN: Lots happened this week. We've had many conversations on this, the political battle over student loans. In just a couple of hours ago, the House passed a measure that prevents the interest rate on student loans from doubling.

So many of you can breathe a sigh of relief, it sounds reasonable enough. So what is the battle part of this? Take a listen here to House Speaker John Boehner talking just a couple of hours ago.

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JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Why do people insist that we have to a political fight on something where there is no fight, there's absolutely no fight.

People want to politicize this because it's an election year. But my God, do we have to fight about everything. And now we're going to have a fight over women's health. Give me a break.

You know, this is the latest plank in the so-called war on women, entirely created by my colleagues across the aisle for political gain.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: House Speaker Boehner, so we have student loans, women's health, is this pure politics? Let me bring in Bob Cusack, the managing editor of "The Hill."

Welcome back to the show, Bob. I know you've been following this one. You're welcome. So on the surface of this that the fact that the House has now passed the measure in terms of the interest rate not doubling, we know the deadline is July 1.

Moves on to the Senate, but then he alluded to, he being Boehner alluded to this conversation for health care. Fill in the blanks for me.

BOB CUSACK, MANAGING EDITOR, "THE HILL": Well, there is a fight over this bill and it's not exactly a what to do, it's how to pay for it.

Both Republicans and Democrats agree that these rates should not jump. Now that's a bit of a shift for Republicans because the budget that they passed just recently kept the rate at 6.8, not 3.4, the lower run.

So I think based on pressure from the White House, Republicans scheduled this vote. They say, OK, we want to keep those rates at the lower rate, but the question is how to pay for it.

BALDWIN: How do they pay for it?

CUSACK: They would go after the health care law, a preventive part of the law that costs about $6 billion. And of course, that's what triggered the president to veto -- or promise to veto this, should it get to his desk.

But it won't because Senate Democrats are not going to allow that. So now they have some time because it doesn't expire the current rate until June 30th, but they're going to have to come up with $6 billion to offset these costs. That's not going to be easy.

BALDWIN: That's quite a chunk of change her and you know, look at this and on the surface it just look to be fight. But perhaps if you dig a little deeper when you look at to where is it coming from, there is. Let's take a look.

This was President Obama earlier this week on Jimmy Fallon.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Now is not the time to make school more expensive for our young people.

JIMMY FALLOW: Yes. You should listen to the president or as I like to call him, the preezie of the united steezie.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: It's obviously funny. Mitt Romney, his GOP rival also at a university today. Clearly both of them have two key demographics in mind come November, that being the young vote.

CUSACK: That's right. Both the president and Mitt Romney support this legislative initiative. So that's why Republicans are getting behind their nominee and moving this legislation. But it is all about the youth vote.

And President Obama needs to fire up that base that's been -- certainly some have been have been frustrated with the president. He needs that vote to come out. Mitt Romney has countered that a lot of young people are out of work because of the president's policies.

You have this storm of the youth vote, presidential politics, congressional politics, all coming together. And are we going to get a resolution come July 30, July 1? I think so, but I think it could go down to the wire.

BALDWIN: So if I'm hearing you correctly, parents are students out there, with all the student loan debt or you know, applying with student loans can breathe easier.

This interest will not double. So what's in it for them or should they be concerned about the where, where it comes from? Where does that fight take place?

CUSACK: That's a very good question because if something could have been used. It was used. In the health care law, the president used a lot of pay-fors of billions of dollars, cutting into HMO's. I think this will get done, but it's one to monitor.

When we get into the heat of the election year this summer, that's when these rates are scheduled to go up. And maybe they just say we'll bring this to the voters and finger pointing will happen. We've seen that before.

BALDWIN: Bob Cusack with "The Hill," Bob, thank you so much for coming on. Also want to let you know that Candy Crowley, she sat down with Speaker Boehner. We'll see where that went. We are still on dolphin watch here. Take a look. Two dolphins now. Are these live, live pictures. Tell me again?

This is a deep portion of the channel I'm told so perhaps that's. There's a couple, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I'm counting seven dolphins. Again, this is Huntington Beach, California so perhaps can you tell me -- go ahead, Chad.

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: This is a section by the yacht club. This is up a little it. This is about -- we counted about 2,500 feet north from where the one dolphin is stranded. The one dolphin is now just south of the Warner Avenue Bridge.

He went under the bridge and kind of swam into the shallow waters down by the swamp, the wet lands, the swamplands down to the south. If he gets back up and swims up to where all his friends are, you see here the helicopter zooms out.

You'll see this is basically by the yacht club, just a bunch of boats here. Clearly these dolphins swim here all the time. They're not looking for their friend. Their friend has to make it back to the north about half a mile. We'll take a look more where he is now.

BALDWIN: OK, we'll keep an eye. We'll see if the dolphin can make it back safe and sound. Meantime, got to get a break in here. We'll be right back.

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BALDWIN: There's a woman in Haiti working to protect women and children who have been raped. Here's her story.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two years after the earthquake, the situation is still the same. The people are still under the tents. They don't have electricity. There is no security where they sleep. They are getting raped. Now I can say it is total disorder. Adults are not scared. Mothers are not spared. Even babies are not spared. I am a victim of sexual violence. I am on a mission to eradicate this issue so that other women don't fall victim.

We do awareness in the camps. We were working in two camps after the earthquake. Now we are trying to work in others. We are telling women come out of the silence. Do not be afraid to speak out.

We offer psychological and legal support. We have a call center. We accompany the victim to the hospital and we have a safe house program. For me, the first thing is justice that I want.

I was a victim and I did not find justice, but I know I will get it for other women that are victims. We have to fight so we can say what was said in the past. We love Haiti. This is a great mission. There will be a change.

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BALDWIN: And now, older actresses getting prime time roles. The baby boom generation impacting Hollywood every night of the week. More on that and -- there he is.

It's wedding season and from really now till the end of the year. One of my dearest friends, Monty Durham of TLC "say yes to the dress" in studio, we're talking wedding fashion.

He's fresh off his week in New York. What would Angelina wear? What should I wear to the White House Correspondent Dinner Saturday coming up?

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BALDWIN: Quick update on the dolphins. So you see on the right hand side of your screen, the dolphin is still stranded on the channel here off about PCH in Huntington Beach. It still needs to find some sort of safety.

You see the friends on the other side. They are right around this yacht club area. We're keeping an eye on the dolphin here. I do want to move along and talk about this because it's Friday. Cue the music. We're having a little fun because we can.

So we opened up the paper this past month due to breathless anticipation over Angelina Jolie. She and her long-time beau brad Pitt have announced their engagement. Mystery number one is when. No date disclosed.

Mystery number two is what about the dress? We turn to our go- to guy, Monty Durham, host of TLC's "Say Yes to the Dress" in Atlanta. What are you wearing? You're looking very dapper.

MONTE DURHAM, HOST, TLC'S "SAY YES TO THE DRESS: ATLANTA": These guys can hook up, old Hollywood. I'm hoping Brad goes this route.

BALDWIN: OK, so what about his wife to be? DURHAM: My God, it's all over the board. We have seen her in some crazy outfits. My thought is something to reveal a little leg.

BALDWIN: Take a look at that.

DURHAM: Don't you love it?

BALDWIN: You're fresh off this week in New York. What is it?

DURHAM: So we have two different looks going here and totally two different feels.

BALDWIN: So you're thinking this is the Lazaro?

DURHAM: Look at the body, look at the fit. It's very -- it's sweetheart neckline. She likes that and should she want a cover, but if she doesn't, look at that. Look at the reveal. Great for the party.

BALDWIN: So this is the edgier look.

DURHAM: -- red carpet more so she's going to do that look.

BALDWIN: And then the one next to me. I just think this lace is stunning.

DURHAM: This is the trend. This is what we're seeing, guys. This is new. So we're seeing a lot of cover-up, little sleeves, lace, fuller skirts and very romantic, sweet, innocent. It's got Ravini written all over it.

BALDWIN: This is Ravini.

DURHAM: And they have their dresses for a trunk show right off the runway. So come in. They're here.

BALDWIN: I was looking in "The New York Times" a couple of days ago. I see this section talking about Vera Wang, boom, red bridal.

DURHAM: No, it's been done. It's old hat. It's old hat.

BALDWIN: Do we have any pictures?

DURHAM: Queen Victoria was the first to be noted wearing a white down. It's stunning.

BALDWIN: It is beautiful. If I was getting married, I kind of would roll in red.

DURHAM: Pre-victoria, this is what the girls wore. Queen Victoria was the first to step out in a white gown. She broke the mold. And she was the first to have the engagement ring. And friday is just a great day because Friday is braid day on TLC. They'll be able to catch all of this great stuff.

BALDWIN: So if people are getting married what's the number one thing? Your style, you find the dress that's, what, suited to you --

DURHAM: But I always tell brides, dress to where you're going. If you're getting married in a cathedral, if you're getting married on the beach, look like you're on the beach.

BALDWIN: What's the biggest no-no?

DURHAM: Not listening to me. Not listening to me.

BALDWIN: So let me listen to you. Let me found out yesterday, I got this ticket to the White House Correspondent Dinner, right? I was there last year. I got this invite. So we actually -- I went shopping.

Let's throw up the three gowns. I have David Meester. I love Nicole Miller so I have -- it's like more of a silver sequiny number. Little bit of a train in the middle. What would Monty Durham choose?

DURHAM: Blue sequins. Your figure looks remarkable in it. I think gold and white and silver have been done. I think you'll see a lot of that. I think you'll stand out in the crowd rightly so, blue sequins.

BALDWIN: Well, I reveal next hour.

DURHAM: You have jewels. Talk to me little blues. Something blue. There you go and what girl doesn't need a little purse. Maria Lana meant to last for a lifetime.

BALDWIN: We're going to reveal which dress I choose next hour. Last year, Wolf had two dates.

DURHAM: Who are you going?

BALDWIN: I'm going solo actually, Brianna Keilar.

DURHAM: I may be in the city so we'll see what we can work out.

BALDWIN: The dresses are just beautiful.

Coming up, turn on your TV and you see fabulous actresses and great roles. That wasn't the case a couple of years ago. We examine the baby boom impact on Hollywood.

And the next hour, watch what you put on the internet. Find out what happens when grown-ups act badly. Now this couple is awarded nearly $14 million.

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BALDWIN: All this week here on CNN, we've been looking at the baby boom generation and the impact on society. Nowhere is that impact really noted more than in Hollywood where power players are both behind and in front of the camera. Michelle Turner explains.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'll see you in court.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would sooner look into a mirror and watch my teeth rot.

MICHELLE TURNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Jessica Lang. If you're looking to watch these Oscar-winning actresses, just turn on your TV. These days, the television industry seems to be embracing hem. From NBC'S "Smash" to "nurse Jackie" and "The Big C," the biggest trend, baby boomer women in big roles.

MAGGIE FURLONG, WEST COAST EDITOR, HUFFPOST TV: TV is filling the gap where movies have let these actresses fall off.

TURNER: Maggie Furlong is a TV industry observer for the "Huffington Post." She says rolling out the welcome mat for the baby boomer women is a strategic decision.

FURLONG: The female demo is something every single network want and so why not make these fabulous actresses leads in television shows? Why not put these great female writers and show runners, these great executive producer, put them all on the show with a strong female lead and have strong female characters on TV.

MILLER: "Hot in Cleveland" stars four women, all over the age of 50 and the cast says shows like theirs are overdue.

WENDY MALICK, "HOT IN CLEVELAND": We knew there was an audience out there definitely waiting to be told about women of a certain age. Buff we didn't understand the extent to which this would connect with our viewers.

MILLER: We're here to remind women there's no expiration date on being fabulous. "Ho the in Cleveland" has been a hit.

VALERIE BERTINELLI, "HOT IN CLEVELAND": There is no age range for funny. Funny is funny. If you watch the show, it's going to make you laugh and it doesn't matter how old the characters are. They're just funny.

MILLER: Hollywood is taking notice in the popularity of baby boomer women and their stories on the small screen. And in time, that may translate to more boomers on the big screen.

FURLONG: Movies take a long time to get made. It may be another year or two before we start to see more female-driven comedies and dramas. Just more women in movies because it takes that long to get things done so I hope Hollywood, but think in the meantime, TV is a great place to be.

MILLER: And given the current success of all these women, viewers seem to agree.

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