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Cate Edwards Could Testify Today; JP Morgan's Leader Still Board Chair; Imposter Blamed For Murders In Mississippi; Indonesia Yanks Gaga Concert; Speeding Ferraris Kill A Man; ATF Informant Sexually Abuses Woman; Spies, Porn And Big Brother; Bride In Gown Dead In Bathtub; Mob Boss' Vatican Crypt Examined

Aired May 15, 2012 - 14:00   ET

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you, Suzanne Malveaux. Very nice to see you. And I'm sitting in for Brooke Baldwin today. Hello, everybody. This is a huge day of news.

And, first in this hour, House Speaker John Boehner is expected to step up to the microphones and -- with a warning for America. An economic disaster may be headed our way is the message. CNN obtaining excerpts of the Republican speech. Boehner says we are heading to a, quote, "fiscal cliff" if the Obama administration doesn't stop its out of control spending. These, Boehner's words. All of this coming before a big showdown in Congress over tax cuts. So you see the connection there. We're going to keep an eye on it for you.

First, though, want to get you right to this. The John Edwards trial. They're bracing right now for the biggest witness of the case so far. Can I say this? It's a family affair. Edwards' eldest child Cate could be taking the witness stand when the trial resumes this afternoon. She has been at her father's side every single day of this trial. You see her walking in. You see her walking out. She sits at his side. She gives him advice. She's a Harvard Law grad. You know where this is going. So a lot of people are frankly asking at this point, just what can she say and what can she do for her father's case. Jeffrey Toobin is our senior legal analyst. He joins me now live.

And, obviously, Jeffrey, everybody's been looking at her. We don't know that the jury knows necessarily that she is his daughter, but what does she bring to his defense case?

JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST (via telephone): Well, it's actually a clever way of getting around the issue of Edwards himself testifying. Edwards has so many credibility problems. He has lied on video about his relationship with Rielle Hunter and about so many things in connection with this case. But his daughter gets to tell essentially his story, but she will not be able to be cross- examined with his lies. So I think it's at least a clever attempt. We'll see how successful it actually is.

BANFIELD: Jeffrey, is it also an attempt to somehow try to soften the image of a man here to for has really come off as just a real dirty bird? I mean a bad family guy who cheats on his wife who's dying of cancer and lies to the press about a mistress and a baby. I mean is there a way to mitigate that using this daughter?

TOOBIN: Well, I think that's absolutely right. One of the core issue of this case has been that Edwards, the defendant, was simply trying to cover up an embarrassing personal situation, not a -- not violate campaign finance laws. And the implicit argument of Cate Edwards' appearance is, look, if his daughter could forgive him, if she is still regarding him as part of the family, if she hasn't written him out of the book of life, then you, the jury, shouldn't punish him either. So I think they're a bit -- this testimony will operate at several different levels with the jury.

BANFIELD: And it's no surprise that the defense team of John Edwards has spent some money and done its due diligence trying to build its case. And one of the people who's been working for them is a former FBI agent who was looking through financial phone records for the Edwards' defense team. And he testified today that Fred Baron, who was one of the, you know, for lack of a better word, money bags, a real heavy duty contributor to John Edwards campaign, was sending money to Rielle Hunter, the mistress, directly, to the tune of about $74,000 over a period of six months in 2008. And while everybody's listening to that and thinking, oh, that sounds so -- it just sounds so salacious, is there anything to it with regard to the charges that he's facing in this courtroom?

TOOBIN: Well, actually, I do think it's potentially good for the defense that -- that information, because one of the defense theories here is that Andrew Young, Edwards' close aide, was using his friendship with the candidate to make money from -- to make money from Fred Baron, who gave a substantial amount of money, and from Bunny Mellon, the heiress, who gave even more money. Both of them -- the charge in this case is that this -- their -- the money they gave was, in fact, disguised campaign contributions. And if the defense can show, in fact, at least part of this operation was Andrew Young's attempt so make money himself and put money in his own pocket, that's pretty helpful to the defense, I think. So the fact that Baron was directly subsidizing Young, I think is pretty -- is a good fact (INAUDIBLE).

BANFIELD: But what's interesting here is -- and I'm sort of trying to read through a lot of the testimony because, you know, I'm not in this courtroom and I'm trying to get transcripts as quickly as possible, that some of Fred Baron's money -- and sadly we can't ask Fred Baron. He's no longer with us. He's died since all of this transpired. But that he was wiring Rielle Hunter, the mistress in this case, directly, which would circumvent any kind of campaign process, circumvent any SEC laws I understand.

TOOBIN: Well, yes, that's one way of looking at it. But from another way of looking at it is that this simply is not part of the campaign. This is a cover-up of an extramarital affair and the birth of a trial and being the terrible betrayal by a husband. And the fact that that money is passing directly from Fred Baron to Rielle Hunter suggested that John Edwards was not really involved in this deal.

BANFIELD: Let me ask you this --

TOOBIN: And that at least is the argument the defense will make and --

BANFIELD: Just as sort of a -- sorry, go ahead.

TOOBIN: No, I -- it is pretty far afield from a traditional campaign contribution. Now, this whole situation is so weird that it's hard to know whether the jury will look at this in terms of campaign finance or simply just what an awful guy John Edwards is. But money passing from Fred Baron to Andrew Young, you know, that's far from a traditional campaign contribution, let's put it that way.

BANFIELD: And you just -- you just nailed my last question, which was, it's ugly, the appearances are ugly, the lies are ugly. And if you could wrap this up fairly quickly, could a jury look at this and say, you know what, Senator Edwards, I don't know whether you really violated the law or not, but I do not like you. I do not like what you did. And I choose to side where you will pay.

TOOBIN: That's the paradox. That's the heart of this case is that, is John Edwards being tried for being an absolutely awful husband or for breaking the law? And you can be sure that the defense will continue arguing that this is not a case about adultery, about Elizabeth Edwards with cancer. This is a case about campaign finance and the jury has to focus on that. The judge will instruct them the same way. The question is, how the jury will actually respond once the case is in their hands and that's a very hard question to which I don't have the answer.

BANFIELD: Jury of your peers. They're people just like you and me.

Jeffrey Toobin, great to hear from you. Thanks so much for the insight.

OK, how is this for your first day. The plane carrying the brand- new French president, hit by lightning. All of this just hours after his inauguration. And we got word that Francois Hollande was on his way to Germany when there was a storm that sort of kicked up and forced his plane back to where it took off from, in Paris. Lucky to report right now that everybody is OK. Hollande is France's first socialist president in 17 years. No relation to the lightning strike. He, of course, replaces Nicholas Sarkozy.

And our president, President Obama, joining thousands this morning, paying tribute to the nation's police officers. If you did not know this, mark your calendar because today is Peace Officer's Memorial Day. And the president took part in a ceremony at the U.S. Capitol thanking the families of fallen officers.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Today, with heavy hearts, we honor those who gave their lives in the service of that mission. Their families are in our thoughts and prayers as we remember the quiet courage of the men and women we have lost.

(END VIDEO CLIP) BANFIELD: Tens of thousands of police officers from around the world are gathered in D.C. for Police Week.

And we have a lot more to cover in the next two hours. Roll it.

What do you get when you cross the Vatican, a graveyard, a mobster, and that missing girl? You get a story that rivals the Da Vinci code. Only this time it's real. I'm Ashleigh Banfield, and the news starts now.

Two drivers are shot to death, and now police warn it could be the work of a fake cop who's on the loose. But how do they know that?

$2 billion gone. Poof. And the man in charge of one of the America's biggest banks on the hot seat. What did Jamie Dimon know? And was it possible to know everything?

Plus, he's violent, he's dangerous and yet the government paid this career criminal to be an informant.

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BANFIELD: Welcome back.

JP Morgan Chase's $2 billion loss is now the subject of an SEC investigation. The White House confirming that probe today. And, by the way, this is the same day that President Obama complimented the company's CEO, Jamie Dimon, on the TV program "The View."

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: JP Morgan is one of the best managed banks there is. Jamie Dimon, the head of it, is one of the smartest bankers we've got. And they still lost $2 billion and counting. Precisely because they were making bets in these derivatives markets. We don't know all the details yet.

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BANFIELD: Ah, maybe that's the key, we don't know all the details yet. But Dimon himself dodged a real bullet at the annual shareholders meeting this morning. Those shareholders decided that despite the billion dollars in blunders here, he is going to keep his $23 million salary. It's called the composition package. Executive compensation packages were on the agenda today. Let's go to Tampa. That's where Poppy Harlow is standing by live right now in the lovely weather in Florida.

So he gets to keep his compensation package, Poppy. A bunch of other things decided there as well. And there is Mr. Obama on "The View" saying that he's terrific. Those messages just seem odd to people who are looking at massive losses and wondering why their 401(k) may take a hit.

POPPY HARLOW, CNNMONEY.COM: But I've got to put it in perspective. So, yes, Jamie Dimon is going to keep his $23 million pay package for the year. That actually got a 9-1 approval by shareholders. So by a wide, wide margin there. He's going to keep both his titles, chairman and CEO.

But here's the deal, Ashleigh. Let's put it in perspective. This is a bank, that despite this $2 billion loss, is going to be profitable this quarter. They're also expecting to make $18 billion this year. So despite this loss, they continue to jut outperform a lot of their peers on Wall Street. So you've got to look big picture here.

The other big thing we have to talk about is, you know, what happened? Why did this loss happen despite Wall Street reform? And the question that a lot of people are scratching their heads with right now is, what if this loss were bigger? What if this were at a bank that's not as well run? What if this were at a bank where Jamie Dimon, who has really been before this called Wall Street's best risk manager. What if it was run by someone else? Those are the questions. Do we have the same things going on, on Wall Street that we did in 2008 that brought this economy to its knees. And one of the shareholders, one of the people that spoke out at the meeting is a woman named Lisa Lindsley. She was representing a pension fund that holds 40,000 shares of JP Morgan. She was fighting to break up that chairman and CEO title so Dimon doesn't have so much control. Take a listen to why.

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LISA LINDSLEY, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL STRATEGIES, AFSCME: We're saying, as shareholders, the board represents us and the person at the helm of the board shouldn't be the same person who's the CEO of the bank. I think it's time that we as shareholders stop treating our CEOs like rock stars or star athletes. You know, when a rock star has a meltdown, no one else gets hurt. When a bank has a meltdown, millions of people lose their jobs, their homes and their retirement security. It's just too important to leave up to one person.

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HARLOW: Now, this loss is not a meltdown, but we did see a meltdown a few years ago. Jamie Dimon has admitted this loss. He said even today, this should never have happened. He says they're changing their management, their policies, their procedures. But this scares people, Ashleigh, because this may be contained, but they worry that things haven't changed on Wall Street.

BANFIELD: So I think a lot of people wondered whether there would be a huge Occupy Wall Street protest presence out there.

HARLOW: Yes.

BANFIELD: And if the protesters weren't outside the meeting, would there be people, like your last guest there, who were really defiant in this meeting or demanding changes.

HARLOW: Yes.

BANFIELD: And effectively, you know, showing their pitchforks and saying, enough already.

HARLOW: There are. So there was a very small protest. Maybe about 10 to 15 people this morning. They're gone now. But we did talk to shareholders as they walked out. Some of them, in the meeting, praised Jamie Dimon for his leadership. Others spoke against him, especially when it comes to how mired JP Morgan Chase still is in the foreclosure crisis. We've got sound from three of them so you can get a real taste for what people were saying here after the meeting. Take a listen.

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ALAN FISHER, EXEC. DIR., CALIFORNIA REINVESTMENT COALITION: It seems like the $2 billion loss should open their eyes to the fact that Mr. Dimon is not on top of everything.

JOSH ZINNER, CO-DIRECTOR, NEDAP: What it shows is that Jamie Dimon and Chase are pushing for weak financial rules that allow banks to continue speculating, to continue the risk-taking, continue abusive practices that harm the economy and that really are strongly against the public interest.

LAURA JOHNS, ORGANIZE NOW: So obviously they did not learn from that mistake. They're still making the same mistake and engaging in these risky activities. It might not be in the housing market or in securitizing mortgages, but it's the same thing.

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HARLOW: So you get it, that's the concern.

And, Ashleigh, I'll just leave you with this. The shareholder meeting concluded before White House Press Secretary Jay Carney did confirm that SEC investigation into the $2 billion loss. So, obviously, there were no questions on that because that investigation wasn't known at the time.

BANFIELD: Right. And I'm still wondering if we're going to see any more heads roll from the company, and specifically after this investigation.

Poppy Harlow, great work, as usual. And lovely to see you. Thank you.

There is a murder mystery in Mississippi. Two bodies found on two highways. Both of them in the middle of the night just days apart. And now, strangely enough, drivers are being told to call the police if they see those flashing blue lights in their rear-view mirror. Is it a fake police officer trying to pull people over? Or is it something even more sinister?

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BANFIELD: So this is something somewhat out of a horror movie. You're driving along at night and you see the flashing blue lights in your rear-view mirror and something doesn't feel right. You just can't be sure. Absolutely certain that those flashing lights behind you are really the police. And now it turns out that officials in Mississippi think that two recent murders might just be the work of an imposter, someone who is impersonating a police officer and asking you to pull over. Now they are telling people there to be careful.

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JOHN CHAMPION, DESOTO COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI DISTRICT ATTORNEY: Under Mississippi law, if you do feel like that there is a problem or that you're worried about being pulled over, you have a right to put on your flashing lights and pull to a lighted, populated, safe area.

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BANFIELD: Joining me now in studio to talk about this is CNN's Martin Savidge.

When I saw that comment, the first thing I thought was, how on earth did you extrapolate that this could be a fake police officer? What is their theory?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. And the police will be the first to tell you that it isn't necessarily a fake police officer. However, the circumstances that they're investigating leads them to believe that it could be. And this is their point. They walk that fine line between they don't want to panic the public -- that's the first thing they said --

BANFIELD: Sure.

SAVIDGE: But they also want to make the public aware. Two people have died now on remote stretches of Mississippi highway in the northern part of that state. It happened last week. One on a Tuesday. One on a Friday. The first was a 74 year old man who was driving from Nebraska. That was around 1:30 in the morning. And then on Friday there was a woman, 48 years of age, a local woman, that happened at 2:30 in the morning. So it's very dark. And the one thing they've noticed is that in both cases it appeared their vehicles had pulled to the side of the road.

Now, there was nothing wrong with their vehicles. So this is where we get into the extrapolation you're talking about, which is, why would someone pull over in the middle of the night if there's nothing wrong with their car? Because maybe there was someone who told them they need to pull over and that's where they think it might be the police.

BANFIELD: And if I'm a 78-year-old man and I see someone on the side of the road waving for help --

SAVIDGE: Could be.

BANFIELD: I would pull over as well and my vehicle would be an able vehicle. So there are all sorts of reasons. I'm surprised they would go with this theory to the point where they're actually on television telling us what we need to do if we're suspect. And what are we supposed to do? SAVIDGE: Well, in this particular case, you can't just avoid the police. If there is someone behind you with blue lights, then you need to take a certain precaution. Number one, ironically, if you think it's the police behind you, call the police.

BANFIELD: Interesting.

SAVIDGE: One, to verify that it truly is the police.

BANFIELD: Call 911.

SAVIDGE: Yes. And then turn your flashers on and, at a safe speed, drive to a well illuminated, well lit and well populated area before you pull over to the side of the road. There have been shell casings that have been found. So this is how they're linking those two shootings. Apparently the shell casings match in both cases. And in one case the person was shot more than once. In another, they were shot only once.

BANFIELD: What about robbery? Did they take anything?

SAVIDGE: They're not talking about robbery. There are a number of things that they are not talking about because they --

BANFIELD: They didn't -- they didn't answer that?

SAVIDGE: Because they say it's part of their investigation and they want to make sure that they don't get people who come forward and claim, oh, yes, that was me. I did it. Well, if you did it, what did you do?

BANFIELD: You and I have been around the block a few times on crime stories. They always hold a little something back so that only the killer would know.

SAVIDGE: I mean this one, I can see their problem because they have to alert the public. Some have already wondered why did they wait so long.

BANFIELD: Right.

SAVIDGE: I mean the last incident was Friday. The first one was on a Tuesday. This was all last week. They waited the weekend before informing anybody on Monday.

BANFIELD: Well, certainly that panic that you said, they don't want to -- there's some panic out there.

SAVIDGE: Well, it's a real big worry, isn't it, out there on a highway alone at night.

BANFIELD: Yes.

SAVIDGE: Especially for any man or woman.

BANFIELD: I want to be a law-abiding citizen, but I'm putting my flashers on and I'm going to the nearest 7-Eleven.

Marty, thank you.

SAVIDGE: You bet.

BANFIELD: Make sure you keep us posted.

SAVIDGE: I will.

BANFIELD: Thank you very much.

Former President George W. Bush returning to D.C. And he's talking freedom. He's talking freedom, uprisings and how America chooses which side to be on. And that's not even the headline. You're going to hear what he had to say about Mitt Romney.

Also, how is this? Two Ferraris at high speed lose control. And now one person is dead, one is in jail and another is walking free. You got all that? We'll explain.

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BANFIELD: Got more news unfolding right now. "Rapid Fire." Roll it.

Former President George W. Bush endorsing Mitt Romney. Are you surprised? ABC News caught up with him after an event in Washington and got that endorsement. Mr. Bush was in Washington to talk freedom. He says the United States has a duty to support nations transitioning to democracy.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: America does not get to choose if a freedom revolution should begin or end in the Middle East or elsewhere. It only gets to choose what side it is on. But America's message should ring clear and strong, we stand for freedom and for the institutions and habits that make freedom work for everyone.

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BANFIELD: Yes, we do.

The first lady, former first lady, Laura Bush, also attending that event.

And the official charge is called perverting the course of justice. And Rebekah Brooks, once a key player in Rupert Murdoch's media empire, is accused of doing just that, of hiding evidence from the police. The former tabloid editor and her husband are among the first people being charged in Britain's phone hacking scandal.

Here's one for you from the scratch your head file. Registered sex offender elected to office. I'm not kidding. His name is Warren "Red" Mills. He nabbed a city council spot in Skellytown. That's way, way up in the Texas panhandle. Got a two-year term. He is a former mayor who had to step down over sexual indecency with two minors, including an eight-year-old girl. That said, he got more votes than any other city council candidate. That's all I've got for you, folks. But I'll move on.

What does Rush Limbaugh have in common with Walt Disney, Mark Twain and Walter Cronkite? Think about it. They're all members of the Hall of Famous Missourians. Limbaugh helped to unveil a bronze bust of himself on Monday during the induction ceremony. (INAUDIBLE) that likeness. I don't know.

She's a superstar. She's got that right. But Lady Gaga's Indonesia concert got the ax by the government there. Her permit to perform next month's "Born This Way" show has been denied.

And the reason, security concerns. It turns out all that dancing around in your bikini and your bare feet didn't sit well with the Islamic protesters there.

They were criticizing all that and a bag of chips. The news is going to make some pretty unhappy little monsters in Indonesia because that concert in Jakarta was sold out.

So now to New Jersey where police say two speeding Ferraris killed a man that was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. The victim of the crash was riding his motorcycle outside the Met Life Stadium when one of the cars jumped a curb and hit him head on.

Police say the driver worked for Gotham Dream Cars, which was holding an event inside the stadium giving people a chance to drive sports cars around that temporary track inside the stadium.

The crash did not happen inside the stadium. It happened outside. Both of those drivers arrested. One of them has already bonded out of jail.

Hours of heavy rain can cause major problems like flash flooding and it can also cause that. Feast your eyes on these pictures. A massive ditch in Texas caused when 8 to 10 inches of rain rushed over a levee for about 10 hours causing it to break.

It's amazing just to see it happening, been caught on tape, too. Lindsey Whitty is one neighbor who shot some video said chunks just kept falling and falling.

Let's bring in our severe weather expert, Chad Myers. That's a lot of rain. And I got to say, when I see it actually happen, I keep wondering, one flash flood or is this the result of many floods or a lot of damage? What do we know?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: They said it looked perfect about an hour before the pictures were taken. This ditch was fine. The grass was there. All of a sudden eight inches of rainfall literally in a coup of hours, all of it just washed down.

Now this is a manmade levy. This is kind of what happens when you take manmade dirt, you pile it up and you don't really do it perfectly. You have some problems there and the erosion happened very quickly. The problem is with the erosion. People are worried because on the right and the left side of this ditch are big houses.

This is near Sugarland, Texas, kind of in the Fort Bend County area here not that far from Houston. Another thing we're going to show you in the next hour is how a drought in Florida is causing something similar, causing big sinkholes.

This isn't a sinkhole. This is erosion. This is all the rain just taking the dirt and pushing it down the drain, pushing it all the way down toward the river and eventually into the bay and eventually into the ocean.

But look at those big chunks of dirt falling off and there you go, it was all manmade levy and all manmade system. And all of a sudden, you get too much water and manmade things don't holdup to Mother Nature very well.

BANFIELD: I've got to say, just looking at that happen, I'm a sinkhole fan, a bit geeky when it comes to sinkholes. Thank you, Chad Myers. It's nice to see you.

I want you to take a good close look at this guy. See him on your screen, career criminal, dangerous, violent, spent a lot of time in a lot of jail. And yet for some reason, some government people thought it was a great idea to hire him to be an informant.

And what happens next is going to shock you. We're going to tell you the story and tell you how all of this broke down.

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BANFIELD: OK, how's this for a pick in the pants. A convicted criminal holds a woman in a hotel room for days against her will, sexually abuses her, and you and I picking up the tab as taxpayers.

We are talking about a man named Joshua Allan Jackson. Take a good look. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives used him as an informant.

A "Seattle Times" investigation found ATF put him up in a cheap motel last year. And it was then and there he told woman he was an undercover agent and then attacked her for days.

We want to bring in one of the reporters who helped uncover this case. Steve Miletich is from "The Seattle Times." This is an astounding story, Steve, and it's almost unbelievable, but for the fact that you've actually found the documentation. How did this happen?

STEVE MILETICH, "SEATTLE TIMES" REPORTER: Well, we were told about Mr. Jackson's escapades before the incident in the motel. At that point, started collecting prison records, criminal records and assessing, you know, what kind of background he had and what the ATF might have known when they brought him in as an informant. And those documents revealed a lot of disturbing information. BANFIELD: So obviously, the first question would be what on earth does the ATF have to say about this. And I just want to say that we've reached out to them here at CNN. We couldn't get an interview, but we could get a statement.

I'm going to read it for you. The ATF cannot confirm or deny the identity of a confidential informant. However, ATF special agents must adhere to the strict use of confidential informants set forth in Department of Justice and ATF policies.

ATF officials are investigating the allegations made by the "Seattle Times" to ensure that employees are complying with all applicable policies intended to protect informants, law enforcement and the general public.

Clearly that last part, and the general public, applying to the details that I just laid out. So let me ask you this, is it possible that they may have actually complied with all the different laws in trying to use this person as an informant and something just went wrong that might have been out of their control. Is that a possibility?

MILETICH: Well, that's always a possibility, but their own guidelines say they're supposed to go through what's called a suitability checklist to determine whether a potential informant might pose a risk.

And one of the things they are to look at is criminal history as well as the potential threat an informant would pose to the public. In Mr. Jackson's case, he had a long history of domestic violence against women, unstable and violent conduct in prison, arrest record in 43 states for everything from robbery to breaking and entering.

On its face, it seems like those issues would have raised some red flags and brought into question whether Mr. Jackson was indeed suitable to be an informant.

BANFIELD: And I think, I mean, you describe the surface. I just looked the 400-page prison record report here, 18 months in prison and out of those 18 months, he spent 11 in solitary.

There are certain things I don't even think I could say on television. But you've probably seen him in lock-up shows on other networks. He is a bad dude. No matter how you slice it.

So even if he might have fallen into a classification somewhere that, you know, adhered to the law, I still don't understand how he could have been with members of the general public unsupervised.

MILETICH: Well, informants are supposed to be closely supervised. And in his case, he did have a handler with the ATF. We don't know exactly how much contact they had because the ATF won't talk about their relationship with Mr. Jackson.

We did speak to a hotel manager where Mr. Jackson lived who spoke to Mr. Jackson's handler and he quoted the handler as saying that Mr. Jackson was high maintenance and didn't know when to draw the line at times. But supposedly have gotten him good information.

BANFIELD: It's remarkable. Can I just ask you one last question and it has to be short, where is he now?

MILETICH: He's in Washington State Prison serving a 10-year term for domestic violence, unlawful imprisonment and criminal impersonation.

BANFIELD: Well, there's that. I suppose we can all rest a little easier. Anyway, Steve Miletich, it's nice of you to joins us. Thank you for that and good work.

MILETICH: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

BANFIELD: So this is one of the most secretive jobs in the world. But you're about to get an inside peek into the life of a CIA agent. One of them is opening up, talking to CNN.

And here you go. Here's a teaser. He's talking about how porn plays into their techniques. He's talking about spying here in America, too. You don't want to miss this.

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BANFIELD: Spies, porn and a very watchful big brother. This is all part of a new book "The Art of Intelligence" and it's by a guy who knows a thing or two about it too.

He's a former CIA officer named Hank Crumpton who says his frustration with his spy work was, quote, "decades in the making." Those words from our Suzanne Kelly who interviewed Crumpton and wrote about it for cnn.com, and she's kind enough to join us live to talk about this.

OK, porn in the CIA. First thing I was thinking was great, this will be a book like James Bond, but even James Bond didn't have the full frontal nudity. What's the deal?

SUZANNE KELLY, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY UNIT: You have no idea what happened with James Bond. I mean, that guy was all over the place and so are these guys. You know, in real life, I mean, the funny thing is, you've got this sort of expose in Hank's book into a little bit more detail than we' seen before.

About sources and methods, which are traditionally, something CIA officers will never talk about completely off-limits, but he did talk about the fact that when I needed information from North Korean leaders, they wanted something, too and it happened to be porn.

They have an appetite for porn. What do you know? I mean, I guess, you're a CIA officer. You have to do what you need to do to get the job done. It's a little unusual, but it does expose that interesting under life.

And another thing, Ashleigh, that we haven't heard a lot about that he talks about in this book is the National Resources Division. Now I'm betting you haven't heard about this. It's a little agency within the agency, if you will.

And it's the CIA's sort of domestic function. So it goes to tell you, you'll remember the CIA is really an overseas spying operation for the U.S. For them to now operate here in the U.S. kind of tells you a little bit about the evolving threats and home grown terrorists are more of an issue than ever before.

We have the sleeper cells, which we've talked about in the past. You and I have about Hezbollah being here in the U.S. So the CIA is really all over the world now.

BANFIELD: So this isn't necessarily akin to the wiretapping that we had talked about several years ago. This is not spying on you and me. This is spying on foreign nationals who are walking amongst you and me.

KELLY: Yes. They're still not allowed to spy on you and me. We're here -- although when we come into contact with foreign nationals, if there's something interesting going on there, they may be paying attention to those corn nationals that we contact with.

Doing a really good little spy thing. When I talked to him the other day, he talked about something called Nano technology, which is more about where we're going in the future of spying.

He brought up this really interesting sort of conversation that's been going can on between our own intelligence agencies and the private sector. He said technology is just taking off and it's developing so quickly.

But now a days, a CIA officer could actually go into a tailor, get a suit made and there could be a beacon, a little tiny microscopic beacon sewn into the suit and that officer could walk out of the building and not even know that someone was tracking him.

I mean, it's those kinds of little James Bondish type nuggets that you get in this book. It really does sort of casts a lot of light on things that we haven't heard a lot about.

BANFIELD: I keep thinking about there was an attack in Europe, somebody poked someone with a tip of an umbrella and in fact (inaudible) and I often have wondered if Nano technology is the next poke so you can trail people and listen in.

I can't wait to look at this stuff. Thanks, Suzanne, really interesting stuff. Appreciate it. Looks like a good read. Here's another strange story. A bride found dead still in her wedding gown and in the bathtub. And police say they somehow know what happened. We'll explain.

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BANFIELD: A newly released 911 call from the father of a missing 6- year-old girl. Isabel Celis disappearing from her family's Tucson home back on April 21st. The screen to her bedroom window had been removed and her father called 911.

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SERGIO CELIS, CALLED 911 TO REPORT 6-YEAR0OLD DAUGHTER MISSING: I need to report a missing child. I believe she was abducted from my house.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: OK, how old?

CELIS: Six years old.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: OK, is it your daughter?

CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 OPERATOR: Why do you think she was abducted?

CELIS: I have no idea. We woke up this morning. I went to go get her up to start her baseball game and she was gone. I woke up my sons and we looked everywhere in the house. And my oldest son noticed that her window was wide open and the screen is laying in the backyard.

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BANFIELD: The father who made that 911 call is Sergio Celis and now he's been ordered to stay away from two other children. Tucson police say that it's a mutual agreement between Celis and Child Protective Services.

But the police won't say why they came to that agreement. In the meantime, investigators are pairing back the number of officers who are committed to finding little Isabel.

Two days after walking down the aisle, a bride is found dead, multiple stab wounds and she's still in her wedding gown.

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SANDY LOPEZ, DEAD BRIDE'S COUSIN: Why? Why would you take her from us?

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BANFIELD: Even more strange, police say that they found her in a dry bathtub in her apartment just south of Chicago. The officers visited her place after her sister called because she had worried that she had not yet picked up her kids.

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LOPEZ: She was a lovely human being, caring. More like a sister to me than a cousin. She's 26 years old. She still has a life to live. You know? You just -- it's unexplainable pain that my family and I are going through right now.

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BANFIELD: Police tell our affiliate, WBBM, they believe the killing is an isolated domestic incident.

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President Obama's campaign goes negative and the attacks come out at Mitt Romney for his business experience. But is everything in the ad factual?

I'm about to challenge a representative of the Obama campaign for one of the ads that's gone blistering. We'll find out what he has to say about it.

And then a mystery at the Vatican. Crews are digging up a mobster's coffin in a graveyard there and they're searching for clues in the disappearance of a girl. Guess what? They found something and it is really, really weird.

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BANFIELD: A kidnapping case with more bizarre twist than a Dan Brown novel has just topped itself for its sheer weirdness. Italian police have unearthed the crypt of a reputed mafia boss who was laid to rest at the Vatican for some reason.

The mob boss's body was apparently fully intact to the point where they could get his fingerprints. But the police found something else buried with him other remains.

Those remains are about to be tested to see if they're a match to this young woman. Manuela Orlandi who was kidnapped back in 1983, confused?

Joining us now from Rome is CNN's Barbie Nadeau. OK, Barbie, this is a weird one and it does sort of sound like a Da Vinci Code story. What on earth is this all about?

Why is a mob boss buried at the Vatican? Why on earth are other remains buried with him? And are we going to get answers about this missing girl?

BARBIE NADEAU, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think the one thing we do know is we're not going to get any answers very soon. This particular man who was a well known affiliate of a crime gang in Rome was killed in 1990.

In 1997, an investigative journalist discovered he was buried in the Vatican. Why he was buried among bishops and cardinals and pope was a mystery. It's something the Vatican has been very cagey about.

There are reports that his family donated a huge amount of money to the Vatican and that's why he got that prime real estate. But the reason he was exhumed yesterday was because of an alleged tie to a 15-year-old girl who was kidnapped in 1983. She was the daughter of a Vatican employee --

BANFIELD: Barbie, I'm losing you on the Skype connection. Oh, rats.

You know what? We have almost lost your audio completely. If we can reestablish, because you're just getting to the good part -- if we can reestablish that, we will come back to you, Barbie, if you can still even hear me. And we will try to solve some of that unsolved mystery for you as well.