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Police Beating Leads to $1M Settlement; Bridegroom Wanted for Murder; Travolta Accuser Drops One Lawsuit; Biden Goes off on Republicans; Debt Ceiling Debate Looms; Fact and Fiction of the Spy Game; Get HIV Test Results at Home; No Mistress, No Daughter, No Edwards; Rush to Pull Money from Banks; FBI Investigates JPMorgan Chase; Laurie Fine: ESPN Ruined My Life

Aired May 16, 2012 - 14:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Ashleigh Banfield in for Brooke Baldwin.

Let's get right to it. No mistress, no daughter, no John Edwards. The former senator's lawyers are resting their case. They didn't call any high profile witnesses to the stand in this very lengthy story. After tomorrow's closing arguments, the fate of the man who wanted to be president will be up to 12 simple people in a jury. Find out what went down inside of court just a short time ago in a moment.

First, however, today, man did things get even worse, if they could, in Greece. Complete political failure. A temporary prime minister named, new elections called, and then there's this -- a run on Greek banks and concern that Greece's future in the Eurozone could certainly be in big trouble.

Let's get right to CNN's Alison Kosik, who's been following this. The Greeks are pulling out hundreds of millions of euros, there's fear that they're going to continue to do this. And that it's going to absolutely domino. Why all of this? Are we in trouble, can you break this down for Americans who are wondering how is it such a mess?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You said it. This is all about fear. You know, when people withdraw money, they stuff it under their mattress. When they think that banks are unsafe and there's nowhere to turn. That's what you're seeing happen in Greece right now. The Greek people have pulled out $800 million since Monday. The president of Greece's central bank says what's happening here is he's not seeing panic, but there's a danger of panic. When they panic, they act irrationally. That makes things worse.

And there's talk that Greece can may not be able to stay in the Eurozone. That is what's sparking all of this fear. If that happens and Greece goes back to its original currency, the worry is the drachma won't be worth as much.

And there's one more thing you can pile on to this issue. This is all happening as there's political -- absolute political gridlock for Greece. Greece right now does not have a government in place. The euro zone needs to have a government in place. Right now, there are elections in June. But it's unclear whether they're going to have leaders in place by then.

One good thing did come out today, though. A lot of leaders say they want Greece to stay in the Eurozone. Even Angela Merkel of Germany said we're willing to make concessions for Greece, but Greece still has to stick to its guns for many of the reasons that it accepted its debt plan earlier in the year. So there's a lot of uncertainty going on. Greece no doubt about it is in bad financial shape. Ashleigh?

BANFIELD: There are a lot of people in America saying let them deal with their problems. I have my own problems here. We're having all sorts of issues with our Congress, dealing with unemployment, et cetera. Does what they do affect me and maybe particularly my 401(k)?

KOSIK: It would. It would. We are not isolated. There are big ripple effects with what's going on in Europe, with what's going on in Greece. You know, one analyst says if Greece exits the euro, it's not going to be alone. We could see runs on banks in other countries, too. And guess what? U.S. companies are exposed to Europe.

Just giving you an example here. Citigroup may not be exposed to Greece, per se, but it may be affected by Portugal, Spain, and France. If other countries get hit, that will affect U.S. companies. If you've got those companies, meaning stock shares in your portfolio, you're going to see a hit on your portfolio. It's kind of like six degrees of separation, but there aren't six degrees. We're closer to Europe than that.

BANFIELD: Yes, the world is flat and there's no better proof of it than this. Appreciate it.

We're going to break down a couple more issues with regard to the Greek financial crisis. Richard Quest is going to join me. I'm going to specifically ask him this. And this isn't such a crazy question. Why don't they sell some of those beautiful jewels called the Greek islands? Apparently there's a couple of world leaders who have recommended so.

Also, this financial crisis. Not for you or me necessary. Or maybe. The FBI is now on JPMorgan Chase's case. You remember that last week the bank announced the loss of $2 billion. That's all from investing in bad credit default swaps. Today, FBI director Robert Mueller confirmed that the bureau has started its own preliminary investigation. Although it would not say, no specifics on what charges could end up coming out of all of this. And a senator encouraged this investigation.

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SEN. RICHARD BLUMENTHAL (D), CONNECTICUT: I think that the American public really has lost faith in many other enforcement agencies partly because of the delay and lack of results and I think the FBI's involvement is a very constructive and important presence in this area.

Thank you.

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BANFIELD: Well, yesterday, the Securities and Exchange Commission announcing it's going to investigate Chase. Today, we hear the FBI. Tomorrow, lots of work ahead for Chase. Without question. A lot of other news unfolding right now as well. Rapid fire. So roll it.

Four wildfires still burning in Arizona. Officials pleading for people to get out of their homes. This isn't a drill. One firefighter said one of the fires could still hit Crown King, an historic mining town. The fire has tripled in size in the last 24 hours, too.

Also making news, a high school in Florida evacuated after at least 12 students and their teacher broke out in mysterious rashes. They were all in the same classroom when they suddenly began complaining about being itchy. Hazmat units rushed to the scene and set up a decontamination tent where the students had to shower and change clothes. Have the helicopter shot from above, but still no word yet on how all this happened. Very strange.

The government says Skechers, you know, makers of those fancy shoes, apparently Skechers lied to people when it said that shape ups, those fancy shoes that you thought would help your butt, when they said it would tone your butt and legs and help you lose weight, wasn't true. Skechers had to pay $40 million in refunds to you and me. And our butts. Do you remember Kim Kardashian, she helped push shape ups? Guess what? Since then, it's had a $1 billion in sales. Again, you and me. Paying that out.

Also news, a South Korean man says his dash cam video is proof that his parents' Hyundai Sonata just went berserk in traffic. Look at the video and listen.

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BANFIELD: Whoa, right into the back of that car. This car accelerated up to 80 miles an hour before it crashed. His parents survived the incident, however, his dad suffered fractured ribs and his mom needed an operation to stop internal bleeding. Other than that, thay're okay. The Korean government is investigating this incident. Hyundai says the vehicle is being inspected as well.

President Obama is about to give a hero a long overdue big recognition. In the next hour, he's going to posthumously award the special honor to Army Specialist Leslie Sabo who shielded a fellow soldier from a grenade in Cambodia. He died in the incident and he was recommended for the medal 42 years ago, but the paperwork was lost until recently.

We have a whole lot more to cover in the next two hours. Take a look at this.

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BANFIELD: He dons an army uniform every day to serve and protect this country. So how does a U.S. soldier end up in the middle of this melee? A full beatdown on home turf? I'm Ashleigh Banfield. The news starts now.

BANFIELD (voice-over): Deja vu. Congressional leaders meet with President Obama behind closed doors. Their fight impacts your paycheck.

Ball boys accuse a Syracuse coach of abuse. But months later, no charges have been filed against Bernie Fine. And now his wife is going after ESPN.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is impossible for me to describe here today what ESPN has taken away from me.

BANFIELD: And how do you fire a spy?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't talk to him, don't waste your time.

BANFIELD: CNN speaks with a former CIA operative about the burn notice.

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BANFIELD: She said CNN ruined her life. The wife of Bernie Fine is suing ESPN for libel along with a reporter and a producer.

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LAURIE FINE, WIFE OF BERNIE FINE: I'm here today as a wife and a mother who has had to endure the trauma of being smeared in the public as a monster. My family and close friends have stood by me. They know I'm a kind and loving person, but my life has been [INAUDIBLE] through the defamation I have suffered and this will last a lifetime.

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BANFIELD: She's the wife of Bernie Fine, who lost his job at Syracuse after former ball boys accused him of sexual abuse. In November, ESPN's "Outside the Lines" aired an audiotape of a conversation that Davis claimed he taped with Laurie Fine back in 2002. Now, her suit claims the tape was, quote, admittedly doctored substantially, inaudible and entirely speculative. Mark Schwarz and Arthur Burkow, the reporter and the producer, are also named in this suit. ESPN says, quote, this suit is without merit and we are standing by our reporting.

Bernie Fine is under a criminal investigation, but there's been no announcement about the status of the case. I want to bring in Lisa Bloom, who is an attorney and author of the new bestseller "Swagger: 10 Urgent Rules of Raising Boys in An Era of Failing Schools, Mass Joblessness and Culture". What does Laurie Fine have to do to try to win this case? LISA BLOOM, AUTHOR: Here's what a libel suit boils down to. You have to show the media outlet made a false statement of fact that damages your reputation. So it's all going to come down to whether the statements ESPN made about her are true or false. This is her chance or lawsuit to show they are false. She also wants to show the recording of her was edited, it was chopped up and inaudible many places and put together in such a way that it was all could you tell of connection just to make her look back.

BANFIELD: Does ESPN share 50-50 in this defense in trying to prove that it's true or is it all up to her to prove what they said is false?

BLOOM: Ah. She has to prove it's false. She's the one bringing the case, so she has the burden of proof. I'm sure ESPN, if it goes to trial, is going to put on their best defense and say everything that we said is true or it's substantially true. Every detail the media puts out there does not have to be true under the law, but the general substance of it has to be true.

And there's some pretty strong allegations that ESPN had against her in their reporting, that she knew about sexual abuse and she failed to act. That's a very serious allegation. If that's not true, ESPN is going to be held liable.

BANFIELD: Here's my guess, that some of the audiotaped conversations between Laurie Fine and Bobby Davis, who is the alleged victim of this sexual abuse at the hands of her husband -- again, allegations only, that these will be a part of the case. And I want to play a little bit of this, Lisa, to get you to weigh in on this evidence if it does become evidence. But before I do I just want to let everybody know that Laurie Fine says that this conversation being taped, a phone conversation between her and Bobby Davis, is taken out of context. She says that we were talking about financial business, but you can be the judge when you listen to this quick piece of sound. Again, a phone call between Laurie Fine and Bobby Davis. Have a listen.

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LAURIE FINE, BERNIE FINE'S WIFE: I know everything that went on, you know. I know everything that went on with that. Bobby has issues, maybe that he's not aware of, but he has issues. And you trusted somebody you shouldn't have trusted.

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BANFIELD: All right, so that has to do with trust, Lisa. This next little piece of tape has to do with whether or not her husband should have been doing anything at all with Bobby Davis. Again, let me remind viewers that she says this is taken out of context and she says she was talking about financial issues. Have a listen.

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FINE: The issue at hand is he had no business doing what he did with you.

BOBBY DAVIS, ALLEGED SEXUAL ABUSE VICTIM: In retrospect -

FINE: You know what, neither did I, because I really helped screw you up a little more too.

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BANFIELD: Wow, Lisa. "Because I really helped screw you up a little more, too." That sounds damning, and usually this stuff does on its surface. Is it as damning as it sounds?

BLOOM: So what she says is she used sarcasm with Davis a lot. She says in the case that he was a troubled young man, they used tough love, sarcasm. Sometimes she would let him go on and on. That was their technique. This is fascinating to me, Ashleigh, because this case is really at the intersection of law and media, my two favorite areas.

The media, we have to boil everything down to a quick sound bite. We never have enough time. But in a courtroom, the jury would hear the entire tape. They would hear her full story. They would hear from all of the witnesses and then they would have a chance to decide. You know, I don't know who's telling the truth here, but I am sympathetic to the general idea that the media does tend to cut things up a lot and not be as responsible as you are today, Ashleigh in saying, look, here's the context, she says it's out of context. Many media outlets just throw things on the air very quickly without giving the full story. And that's essentially what she's saying in this lawsuit.

BANFIELD: Well boy, oh boy, we might really have a full story if this thing ever goes to trial. Who knows if they'll settle it or if it will be dismissed at some point. But Lisa, always good to see you, and I love the book, and I have two little boys so swagger is exactly the book for me. Nice to see you.

BLOOM: Oh, thank you, Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: Lisa Bloom joining us live.

The man who wanted to be president is closer to learning whether he's going to prison. John Edwards's lawyers did not call his mistress in this case. They did not call his daughter in this case. They did not even call Edwards himself to the stand. They wrapped the case in just two days. Good sign? Bad sign? We'll find out in just a moment.

Plus -- quick note for those of you heading out the door. You can continue to watch this program or anything else on CNN for that matter. All of that from your mobile phone. Or if you're headed to work, you can watch at work, too. Just don't tell your boss. Go to CNN.com/tv and we are there live.

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BANFIELD: He once aimed for the oval office, but what a difference four years can make, because now, John Edwards is fighting to stay out of prison. His defense lawyers just wrapped up their case to the jurors, 24 days after this trial began. The former presidential candidate is facing six counts, they include conspiracy, issuing false statements, and violating campaign contribution laws. All in an effort to allegedly hide his mistress and their love child. CNN's Joe Johns is in Greensboro, North Carolina. Joe?

JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ashleigh, the defense rested its case in this trial in Greensboro, North Carolina. The defense had suggested the case could go out with a bang, but it certainly ended with much less than that.

The defense had threatened to put John Edwards himself on the stand, which would have been risky, and they decided not to go that route. They had threatened to put his mistress, Rielle Hunter, on the stand, and decided not to do that either. They didn't even put Edwards's daughter Cate on the stand to try to humanize Edwards after the attack he taken by the prosecution. Defense attorneys for Edwards now clearly believing they have established reasonable doubt for their client with this jury in a trial that's been going on for almost four weeks now. Closing arguments expected to start on Thursday morning. Ashleigh?

BANFIELD: All right, Joe, thank you. And so much of the case rests on those closing arguments as well.

So one of history's biggest villains is about to learn his fate. It's that man, Charles Taylor, the reputed blood diamond boss. Really surprised everybody in court. Not only by talking but referring to our very own George W. Bush. What on earth is he saying?

And a bizarre twist in the sex allegations against John Travolta. It comes from the therapist who is accusing him.

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BANFIELD: All right, if you've been following Kony 2012, here's another one for you. Career criminal Charles Taylor has had his say now today at the international war crimes court, and he compared his actions -- we'll explain them in a moment -- to those of our former president, George W. Bush. Here's how the story goes. The former Liberian leader is awaiting sentencing for crimes against humanity. For his role in a civil war in Sierra Leone.

And believe it or not, Charles Taylor escaped from a jail here in Massachusetts actually, in America, back in 1985. Embezzlement was the issue then. And then he resurfaced in Liberia, where he shot up to power in the mid '90s.

As president, he helped to fan the war in Sierra Leone. And that war claimed more than 50,000 lives. He was convicted last month of arming rebel groups in exchange for diamonds. He was also convicted for supporting widespread rape, sexual slavery and the use of kids as soldiers. Sound familiar? Kony 2012? Addressing the court in the Hague, Taylor equated his conduct to that of our own former President Bush 43. I'm not kidding. Take a listen.

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CHARLES TAYLOR, FORMER LIBERIAN PRESIDENT: President George W. Bush not too long ago ordered torture and admitted to doing so. Torture is a crime against humanity. The United States has refused to the prosecute him. Is he above the law? Where is the fairness?

The United States and Great Britain caused the murder, the rape, maiming, torture and mutilation of around 1.5 million Iraqis, not to mention the 1 million Iraqi babies that lost their lives as a result of crippling sanctions. Now, this tragedy, I believe, are consequences not anticipated of a policy that set out, and may I say rightly so, to prevent the development and use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians. But what happened? It ended up a total disaster, costing around $1 trillion, and a massive loss of lives and limbs on all sides, unfortunately.

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BANFIELD: Well, Charles Taylor is set to be sentenced on May 30. He's 64 years old. And for his crimes, he could spend the rest of his life in prison.

A million dollar settlement has been reached in the fatal beating of a homeless man. And it was a beating that was caught on tape. A tape I need to warn you about. It is very disturbing to watch. Take a look.

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KELLY THOMAS: I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry, dude. Please!

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BANFIELD: That is the voice of 37-year-old Kelly Thomas. Just five days after what you're witnessing, he was dead. It happened in July. It was an encounter with police officers in Fullerton, California. The city of Fullerton has just agreed to pay Thomas's mother, who will no longer pursue her lawsuit against them. However, a lawsuit filed by Thomas's father still remains active.

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RON THOMAS, KELLY THOMAS'S FATHER: Good for her, OK. She felt that's what she needed to do and I support her. I'm not in the money game. Whatever monies I'm getting will get, if I get is going to go to the foundation that I started for Kelly.

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ASHLEIGH: Two police officers have pleaded not guilty to criminal charges related to this case. Police in Illinois say this bridegroom that everyone has been talking about is wanted on a charge of killing his bride.

Take a good look. His name is Arnaldo Jimenez. Apparently, he's alleged to have stabbed his brand-new life and then left her dead in the bathtub, all of these just hours after their wedding reception.

Her name was Estrella Carera. She was still wearing the cocktail dress that she wore for that reception when police found her body. Police say that Jiminez -- and wait for this one -- may be driving a 2006 Maserati, a Maserati.

A massage therapist who said John Travolta has sexually assaulted him has now hired famed attorney, Gloria Allred, to represent him. And the therapist has now withdrawn from a lawsuit he filed with another lawyer.

In the meantime, that lawyer dropped him as well saying the therapist misstated the date when the alleged incident happened. For his part, John Travolta's lawyer is still claiming that these claims are ridiculous.

Now for another way to avoid walking. In a moment, we talked about race and we've talked about America's debt crisis. Just a short time ago, congressional leaders were meeting with President Obama to discuss the debt ceiling.

So what happened behind closed doors of our famed White House? This fight impacts your paycheck and you do need to know. Also, did you see what Vice President Joe Biden did today? Wow.

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BANFIELD: The economic and political crisis in Greece is sending shockwaves across Europe. Unable to form a new government there, today Greece named a temporary prime minister. Basically, he's a caretaker until yet another round of elections.

And yes, I know. They just had them. They're doing it again. This week, people who are worried in Greece are pulling hundreds of millions of Euros out of their country's banks. Why does that matter?

They're worried that Greece won't be able to stay in the European Union. And yes, the ripple effect could reach our shores. Did you, by any chance, catch our Vice President Joe Biden a little earlier on "Today" because he just about blew a gasket over in Youngstown, Ohio.

He's here talking to Republicans and the whole idea of class envy. In other words, people who are calling for economic fairness simply jealous of those who are better off than they are. But here's Joe Biden's look at that.

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JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: And by the way, one thing I do resent. I resent when they talk about families like mine that I grew up in. I resent the fact that they think we're talking about, it's job envy, it's wealth envy.

That we don't dream. My mother believed and my father believed that if I wanted to be president of the United States, I could be. I could be vice president.

My mother and father believed that if my brother or sister wanted to be a millionaire, they could be a millionaire. My mother believed as much as any rich guy dreams. They don't get us. They don't get who we are.

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BANFIELD: Snap. That's the vice president going off in Ohio and hold that thought. We'll talk more about that in a minute. But there's this icky sense of deja vu circling about Washington. We're talking about the debt ceiling again.

Last time around it was botched so bad that the credit rating services lowered our government's credit rating from AAA and that hasn't changed since.

Brianna Keilar is at the White house now. So we're on same page. It doesn't feel like it was almost a whole year ago, but it was almost a whole year ago. We were in this mainly about the debt ceiling. Why are we doing it again now?

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, because it will expire again somewhat soon, Ashleigh. It set to expire sometime around the New Year. You remember last time we thought it was in the spring and it really moved into the summer because treasury is able to kind of fudge some of the number, move things around so that the debt ceiling isn't hit.

It's looking that would be sometime maybe early in the New Year, but it's really popping up right now because let's be honest, it's an election year and this tussle is starting earlier. It started yesterday with Speaker Boehner initiating this fight by really drawing a line in the sand saying that he won't go for a debt ceiling increase if tax increases are included.

He'll go if for deep spending cuts, he'll go for tax reform, but no tax increases. And as you can see, that is very much of a deja vu. Debt ceiling battle 2.0 teed up and just in time for a meeting today at the White House between President Obama and congressional leaders, Democrats and Republican.

Here's what Jay Carney said in the briefing about this a short while ago about this meeting.

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JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: My sense is the tone was congenial, the discussion was productive. The sandwiches were delicious and that have, while the topic was raised and discussed, it was -- there was no other issue associated with -- or no problem associated with Speaker Boehner's remarks yesterday.

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KEILAR: So what we understand from the White House, Ashleigh is that the president insisted there would be no replay of that battle last summer, but it's starting to feel a lot like that.

BANFIELD: I was going to say, good luck with that. Actually, I do want to ask about that, Brianna. If I remember correctly, and remembering back a year for me is really testing me.

But the issue is Republicans said we're not changing anything with regard to the debt ceiling unless you agree to some massive hacking. Are we talking about the same problem, the same debate all over again? Or did Nebraska learn from the last round.

KEILAR: It is kind of the same debate all over again. There were some cuts agreed to. And now Republicans are commanding more cuts. Speaker Boehner said he wants to only increase the debt ceiling if they're going to really tackle the debt crisis, as he put it.

It's really to0 soon to see how it's going to play out. We can says it won't be resolved before the election. It likely won't be pretty after the election. And right now, Ashleigh, all they're agreeing on it seems that the sandwiches at this meeting were delicious.

BANFIELD: That's good! So real quickly, I don't know if anybody knows the answer to this one this soon. But are the credit rating houses watching closely at this point? Or are they going to wait until we figure this one out and they really go head to head.

KEILAR: You never know exactly how this is going to develop, but of course, they were watching. They were watching last time. So of course, they're watching.

BANFIELD: Brianna Keilar live at the -- did you get one of those sandwiches?

KEILAR: No, I didn't. I could use one, though.

BANFIELD: All right, thanks. Have a great afternoon. Good to see you.

So knowing where the insurgents are hiding certainly can help to save lives in Afghanistan. And now there's a brand-new device that allows soldiers to literally see through walls and see around the corners in combat zones. It's no joke. It's this week's "Technovation."

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BANFIELD (voice-over): You cans to it over a wall or even drop it from a three-story building. Known as the "Throwbot," this is helping soldiers and marines detect insurgents and IEDs in Afghanistan.

JEREMY BLADE, RECONROBOTICS: It's a 1.2 pound throwable reconnaissance device that soldiers, Marines, SWAT teams, bomb teams use. You get a live video feed of what's going on.

BANFIELD: You steer the robot by remote control and you see what it says. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It can be deployed in less than five seconds. Pull the pen, flip the switch, you're ready to go.

BANFIELD: It's small enough to fit in a backpack or a pocket. Another thing that makes this robot unique is its size.

BLADE: Back in 2000 when this first came out, a lot of the bigger systems were 30 pounds, 50 pounds, a lot to carry for soldiers.

BANFIELD: The U.S. military is using over 2,000 systems and more than 400 police SWAT teams are using this robot.

BLADE: Something like this can save lives. If this goes in first and it does get shot at, you're not coming out or one of your buddies isn't coming out shot. You get eyes inside before you go in.

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BANFIELD: That's just really cool stuff.

All right, switching gears here. Some serious royal dish from the royal themselves. You don't get this very often. But with all the pomp and circumstance you see with the lady in the middle, her grandsons.

Princes William and Harry are going to talk about their grandmother as she's getting ready for one of the biggest moments of her life. It's the history of the royal family -- the good, the bad and the ugly, right from the kids coming up.

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BANFIELD: All right, time for Globe Trekking, Queen Elizabeth's diamond jubilee is just around the corner. This is a celebration that's going to highlight her 60 years on the throne, 60 years since her coronation! Listen to what her grandsons told ABC's Katie Couric.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's our grandmother, as simple as that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As I learned growing up, you don't mess with your grandmother.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She hasn't friended you on Facebook?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, she hasn't. Has she friended you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hopefully after this interview she will.

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BANFIELD: How adorable is that being friended on Facebook by the queen. Let's go now live to Max Foster who is in London. So what other little nuggets did they dish up in their interview or is ABC keeping it very quiet? MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: They're keeping it very quiet. That's the sum total of the information that they've released. So a big tease, but no doubt a great get. Particularly Prince William because he just doesn't do interviews.

He has a very tolerant relationship with the media, my wording probably his as well. But he is, you know, what's interesting here is that since the wedding, obviously all three of them have become these mega stars. And all the spotlights is around them. You go to all of these events and you have three or four times as many journalists to one of their events than you do for the queen's.

And so I think what they're trying to do is say right, this is the queen's moment. You've got the jubilee in a couple of weeks. Let's really focus on that. The interview is purely about the queen.

BANFIELD: That's remarkable stuff. What about Katherine? Are we expected to ever hear from Katherine the princess?

FOSTER: You wonder. I asked them about this. They haven't said no, but it's some years away. I suspect she's going to go the queen's route. The queen has never done an interview. If she ever does do an interview, it won't be about her.

It will be around one of her causes. I think that's Katherine's story, really. She's not great speaking in public. She hasn't had much practice, fair enough, but when she does speak in public, she's a bit shaky and nervous. I'm sure that weighs on the conversation.

BANFIELD: You know, Max, I used to wonder a decade and a half ago why Diana was the media juggernaut she was. And I'm right back feeling the exact same way, why these kids are the juggernaut they are. Do you have the answer for me in 10 seconds?

FOSTER: I think they're young, funky, and the wedding was a fantastic day and they built from that.

BANFIELD: That's exactly Diana's story, too. Max Foster, good to see you. I guess, we'll see you more on June 5, right, the jubilee?

FOSTER: Definitely.

BANFIELD: All right, thanks so much.

So next month as I mentioned, Queen Elizabeth celebrating 60 years on the throne. You can join CNN for all the pageantry on the diamond jubilee. It begins on Sunday, June 3rd. We're going to go live at 11:00 a.m. Eastern on that day. The celebration continues right through until June 5.

A whole bunch of fun. Like a royal wedding plus. We all love a really good spy novel or spy movie. Our Suzanne Kelly goes on the set of "Burn Notice" to separate fact from fiction on who really does get burned.

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BANFIELD: When it comes to the cloak and dagger world of spies, it's hard to tell the difference between fact and fiction. Hollywood has had a long history of portraying spies left out in the cold and those who have not. Take the TV show "Burn Notice." is that a real CIA term?

Suzanne Kelly went on a covert operation of her own to find out that and more.

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SUZANNE KELLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No doubt, espionage sells. The world loves a good spy story. So we came here to Miami, the set of "Burn Notice" to separate fact from fiction. You play Michael Weston, how much experience did you have in the spy world before the show?

JEFFREY DONOVAN, ACTOR, "BURN NOTICE": Zero. I didn't know much about the intelligence community.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Creating a good diversion isn't about making noise and firing guns. It's about giving the enemy an impression that he's getting attacked in a way that demands the immediate intention of all of his forces, ideally something big and very, very loud.

DONOVAN: Burn notice is an actual term the CIA uses to kick a spy out of their agency and never have to pay them pension. They burn them. They burn the records of who they are, what they've done. And when you have no identity and you're a burned spy, it's kind of hard to get a job.

KELLY: Renny Harlin is directing this episode.

RENNY HARLIN, DIRECTOR: We're having a little fun. You have to be organized. We have maybe 80 days to shoot the movie. Here we are doing a one hour of episode of TV in seven days.

KELLY: Our mission is to separate fact from fiction. To do that, we're going to go to Marty Martin, your real name?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Marty Martin. That's me.

KELLY: Covert operator overseas for the CIA for a number of years.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's what they say.

KELLY: Are there retakes in real life?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, there's not.

KELLY: Could a spy ever be burned?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, if you goof up, you get fired.

MARTY MARTIN, FORMER COVERT CIA OFFICER: A burn notice is issued because all around the world people are trying to id our officers. They're trying to make money, trying to lie or trying to disinform us.

So what happens eventually, this guy is done, he's a liar. And you issue a burn notice out to all your systems saying if this yahoo shows up, don't talk to him, don't waste your time and don't pay him money.

KELLY: So in the end Hollywood may not mirror a reality 100 percent, but it sure makes for good TV. In Miami, I'm Suzanne Kelly for CNN.

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BANFIELD: Yes, it does. Thank you, Suzanne Kelly for that. For the first time, you can see if you have HIV by using an at-home test. Wow. Find out how it works. And if this is really what you need to do.

Also, what it means for the fight against aids. First, however, "Newsweek's" latest cover declaring President Obama's first gay president caused a lot of controversy, but if you thought this one was provocative, take a look at what was just released.

The alternate covers that didn't make the cut, the rainbow flag and the president's quote not a winner. Also take a good look at this. Do you notice something on top of the White House. Squint. Look real close. It is the rainbow flag, a symbol of gay pride atop the White House. Didn't make it either.

Then there was this picture of the president holding two male wedding cake toppers. That one didn't make the cut either and guess what? There were more. You are going to see them coming up next.

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BANFIELD: Before deciding to run this controversial cover, "Newsweek" did consider a few others. So you wouldn't believe what they decided to ditch. We would like you to be the decider, in George Bush's words, whether these were better options.

At the podium with the rainbow flag behind them using Obama and the campaign poster, the iconic image of him, all done in rainbow. Not controversial enough. But at least you see they were other choices they were considering.

So there's this -- a brand-new test for HIV, offering the most private way to learn if you're carrying the virus that causes AIDS. For the very first time a person can take the test and get results all in the privacy of your very own home.

The test is called "Oroquick" and it just got unanimous approval from an FDA panel too. Our senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen joining me live now. So obviously the first question out of the gate is how does this thing work?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, it works very much like a pregnancy test. You swab your gums in this case, and then you get the answer, one line if it's one way and two lines if it's gone the other way.

And it's really the exact same test that doctors have used for years. One line is negative, two lines is positive. And Ashleigh, this is really important because 1 in 5 people who are HIV positive don't know it. And this test won't be in the stores immediately, but certainly hopefully after, you know, more than a few months.

BANFIELD: I think it begs the question, there are plenty of false positives and false negatives in the pregnancy test. And that can be life ending in the HIV test. How good are these?

COHEN: Here the big concern is about false negatives. You can get false negatives. You're at home, you see negative, you think terrific. What you don't realize is that perhaps it's wrong.

Now when you get the results, you're talking a professional and they can explain that to you. That's certainly one concern with this test. The other concern is let's say it's positive.

You're alone. You've just found out that you have what can be, you know, a really devastating disease. And there's no one to talk you through it. That's another concern.

BANFIELD: To say the very least, yes. What about the cost? The pregnancy test are upwards of a few bucks, but what about this one?

COHEN: You know, it might not be quite as cheap as pregnancy tests and we don't know the exact price yet, but certainly it will be in the neighborhood of something that is affordable. It won't be crazy expensive.

BANFIELD: So it had the OK. When does it hit the shelves, do we know?

COHEN: We don't know. They need a couple more months to work out labels and that kind of stuff.

BANFIELD: You are so on it. You get stuff before it hits the shelves. Elizabeth Cohen, thanks for that. Appreciate it.

COHEN: Thanks, Ashleigh.