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FaceBook Bang is a Whimper; Shootout Scene Erupts in Louisville; Romney Launches First Ad of Campaign; Verdict Unlikely Today In Edwards Trial; Heckler Interrupts Sebelius Speech; Florida Gets Poor Marks For Reading; White Student In Trouble For Black Face; New Evidence In Trayvon Martin Case; Pics, Video Released In Case; In No Man's Land; Mississippi Highway Shooting Suspect Arrested

Aired May 18, 2012 - 14:00   ET

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ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, everybody. I'm Ashleigh Banfield. I'm in for Brooke Baldwin today.

And at this very second, jurors are deciding the fate of a man who wanted to be the most powerful person in the world. We are officially on verdict watch in the corruption trial of John Edwards. Did he use campaign cash to cover up an affair with his mistress? If the jury decides he did, Edwards could face 30 years behind bars. And if anything breaks, you're going to hear it right here.

First though, FaceBook landing with a bit of a whimper today. What happened? The IPO was supposed to hit like a bomb. But, if so, it's bomb with a fairly long fuse. It hit the market, the Nasdaq in fact, right around 11:00 this morning at $42.05 for one share. Did that price go up as expected like $50, $60 a share? Heck, no. Look at your screen. It took a tank dive. Alison Kosik is live right now at the Nasdaq market site. She's at the exchange where FaceBook's trading right now.

Get me up to speed. Is where it? Take me through the day. And why did this not turn out to be the story I thought it was going to be?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: OK. So, yes, a very messy debut for FaceBook definitely, Ashleigh. Yes, what you saw happen right at the open is, when you saw that bit of a pop. You saw FaceBook shares jump as much as 12.5 percent to $45 a share. But then that high-order volume, that caused some technical problems. It caused delays. And one analyst that I talked with said, what that is that it spooked investors when that delay happened and when you started to see that stock fall back down to earth a bit, almost flat right to that IPO price of $38, investors quickly sold. They got out.

Clearly, that's not what was expected. You know this. Over the past several weeks, if not months, if not the year, this really has become the most hyped IPO that I can remember. And this is certainly not the coming out that I think investors had been hoping for.

Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: In November of 2010, GM's IPO was $18.1 billion. In March 2008, Visa's IPO was $19.7 billion. So are we still on track for FaceBook to be the third largest IPO at somewhere around $16 billion and something?

KOSIK: It is looking that way because you look at where that price started, $38. Investors did buy into that. But what's really the bigger picture here is to see if FaceBook shares have that staying power. Will these shares continue to go up? Right now shares are up a little over 6 percent. Clearly that is below expectations. However, it is higher. And when you look back to some of these other IPOs, how they've done, you know, Google and Linkedin, they've done really well. You look at where they started and where they are now, they're up, you know, 150 percent, 639 percent. But then you look at shares like Zynga, Groupon, Pandora, those other kind of Internet social media stocks, they are clocking in below their IPO price. It's interesting -- it's going to be interesting to see where FaceBook winds up in a month, in a year to see if it's below or above that $38 IPO price.

BANFIELD: And I want to just note on our screen, we're looking at the $40 price ticking around. You know, up and down. We've seen 7.6 percent up from the --

KOSIK: Right.

BANFIELD: Is it the print. I hate to get into your terminology here, but the print, is that what the official launch price was? Because it wasn't $38.

KOSIK: Well, the very first trade we saw out of the gate, it was supposed to be $38. That really is the offer price. I don't have the actual print offer. No I don't.

BANFIELD: I think it was something like $42.05. But, listen, I could be wrong. I just remember seeing $42.05 and that looked like it was the official price that finally came up.

KOSIK: That sounds about right. That does sound about right. And then you see, you know, what happened to those shares. You know, they did go up. They went up 12.5 percent. They backed down again, but they're coming back. And, look, we still have some time left in the trading day. Who know, FaceBook may be able to save face in the next two hours.

BANFIELD: So that basically means you are going to have one of the longest days of your career, my friend. Don't go anywhere, because we're going to need your expertise in a bit. Alison Kosik live for us at the Nasdaq. Thank you.

And in case you're not friends with Mark Zuckerberg, guess what, he's updated his status on FaceBook. And how cool is this. It's plain and simple. Mark Zuckerberg listed a company on Nasdaq. I'm not kidding. This is really his update.

Now, check this out if you would. That is the official ringing of the bell. If you're Mark Zuckerberg and you command an army of geeks, you get to do stuff like this with a jib shot no less. He rang the bell at the Nasdaq exchange in New York, but he did it remotely from his company's headquarters in Menlo Park, California.

That's where Dan Simon is live for us today.

So, talk to me a little bit about the mood out there. It was so riveting to watch all of those opening shots. Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg hugging him at the ringing of the opening bell. I'm wondering if the mood is -- still is as high as it was during that embrace. If there's any disappointment that there was this sort of whimpery -- somewhat wimperish of a day, or if everyone's just business as usual?

DAN SIMON, CNN SILICON VALLEY CORRESPONDENT: You know, I did just speak to a FaceBook executive a short time ago, Ashley, and didn't really have much of a reaction to the stock price. He did describe the mood inside today as energetic, a lot of excitement. But now it's a bit more subdued. People are going back to work or they're going home after pulling an all-neither. They had what is called a hack-a-thon last night. They do this frequently. This is an opportunity for FaceBook employees to get together to come up with new ideas for the site. And so they did that all last night. And then at 6:00 in the morning, they gathered in the main FaceBook courtyard where mark Zuckerberg rang that bell with senior executives.

Ashleigh.

BANFIELD: I think I remember one of the -- one of the products to come out of one of these famous hack-a-thons was the "like" feature of FaceBook. So they are no joke. Both hack-a-thons produced some pretty impressive coding products.

Dan, just quickly, explain for me, as we were looking at those pictures of the opening bell and the jib shots spanned over all the FaceBook, you know, I want to say disciples or devotees, there have to be at least a handful of mini millionaires. That's only my guess. What's the status of a lot of the people who work there, the little guys?

SIMON: Well, it's much more than a handful. We're talking about perhaps hundreds of newly-minted millionaires here at FaceBook. And there's going to have a -- you know, there's going to be a broad impact on the economy here in Silicon Valley and throughout the state of California. We've talked to people in the real estate market who are expecting, you know, to sell some big-time homes. People in the retail sector are expecting a little bit of a pop. And then the state of California, as a whole, we talked to the state treasurer, Bill Lockyer, he's expecting anywhere from $2.5 billion to $3 billion in tax revenue over the next five years. That money could go towards things like construction. $1 billion towards construction could add 20,000 jobs here in the state of California. Si this could have a significant economic impact, not only in Silicon Valley, but throughout the state.

BANFIELD: Yes, all those millionaires. And let's not forget the handful of the billionaires, the executives, who all went up by several more billion than they're already worth.

Dan Simon, nice to see you. Thank you for that. Dan Simon reporting for us live out at the headquarters at Menlo Park. I want to switch gears for a minute to something else that's really big. World leaders also important today. They're gathering at Camp David right now for the G-8 Summit. It's the annual meeting of leaders of the world's largest economies. And France's newest president, there he is stepping of the plane with his lovely girlfriend, already arrived. Also expected to arrive, leaders from Japan and Germany, Russia, Great Britain, Italy and Canada are also attending. The world economic crisis is at the top of the agenda. It is President Obama's first time as host. And he spoke just a short time ago. Have a peek.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Obviously we've -- have h a lot to talk about. Much of our discussion centered on the situation in the euro zone. And President Hollande and I agree that this is an issue of extraordinary importance not only to the people of Europe but also to the world economy.

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BANFIELD: We're going to keep an eye on things at Camp David for you, bring you any updates as they are warranted.

Meantime, another switch for you. Some tragic news that I want to bring to your attention. We've been following this story. The Georgia college student who's fighting a flesh-eating infection. Her name is Aimee Copeland. And here's the bad news. She did not pull this thing off the way we had hoped she would. She's going to lose more limbs. Both of her hands, in fact, and also her other foot. That's according to her father who wrote just an incredibly emotional update online. He says when Aimee was told about her hands, she held them up to her face and then she mouthed the words "let's do this." He also went on to say that he cried but because he was so incredibly proud of his daughter and her resilience. We have a lot more to cover in the next two hours. Watch this.

Get a load of what went down in Louisville, Kentucky. SWAT officers, people running for cover. Unbelievable melee. How did this shootout end? I'm Ashleigh Banfield. The news starts now.

Mitt Romney reveals what he'd do first on day one as president.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you.

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BANFIELD: Tough economy? Not in New York. Someone just spent a record $90 million on a penthouse.

And one of the world's most famous chefs joins me live. I'll ask Jamie Oliver about laziness, the Heart Attack Grill, and why he's recruiting major celebrities for one big message. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: What I'm about to show you has a lot of people on edge and wondering what chaos could break out next. Take a look at what happened in Louisville, Kentucky, yesterday as crowds were gathering to watch the police as they were investigating a deadly shootout that had already happened. Again, this is in the midst of their investigation. Police are still trying to piece together what led to all of this. But here's what we know. Originally, two men were killed and two were wounded in a shootout near downtown in Louisville.

Friends and relatives and police rushed to the scene. Onlookers everywhere. And all of a sudden, on the fringe of this investigation, about an hour into this, two women got into an argument and it escalated. And one of them pulled a gun and fired and killed the other, pumping several bullets into her. Police yelled at her, told her to put down the gun. She pointed it at them and they shot her, but not dead. This next video is from a whole different perspective inside the van of a local news crew. Take a peek.

So the woman that police shot is in the hospital today and she is under heavy guard. The final tally of the victims from the two shootings, three people dead, three people wounded. Police and city officials are calling for calm today. They say violence like this will not be tolerated. Attica Scott is a member of the Louisville Metro Council.

Councilor Scott, I don't even know where to begin. Do you have any indication of motive say in the initial set of shootings and then in this second set of shootings?

ATTICA SCOTT, LOUISVILLE METRO COUNCIL: Well, let me say that just hearing your report and hearing those screams and the gun shots, I had to keep in my composure because I live three blocks away. And the first thing I thought about when I heard about it were my two children who are 11 and 16. And my son was about to be on his school bus riding through the shooting zone.

And at this point we don't know what the motives were. Of course street conversation is that it could have been any number of reasons why this happened. I want to respect the fact that the police are launching a full investigation. But my heart goes out to the families that are mourning right now.

BANFIELD: Councilwoman, tell me what you know about this area. I was just looking through the demographics of those who were killed. They are all under the age of 25. And from what I gather, all known to police in some way. Can you take it from there?

SCOTT: Sure. We know that these -- this kind of violence is going to escalate and at some point get to a place that's out of hand. And we've got to do a much better job of staying on top of this kind of potential violence because the writing is always on the wall. People know that this street, what they call 3-2 zone on the street, is one of the most violent areas in our neighborhood. And as I said, I live three blocks away. And so we've got to do a better job of building relationships between community, between the police. We need our mayor working with me as a metro councilwoman to make sure that we're talking to folks and finding out what's going on, why, and how can we get ahead of it.

BANFIELD: But, councilwoman, tell me this, and this might be more of a personal question than to you as a city councilwoman, but since you live in the area, as I understand it, the police are very afraid of further activity, retaliation activity. So what are they doing in this neighborhood to make sure that you, your neighbors and everybody else who might be somehow (INAUDIBLE) connected to this melee are going to be safe?

SCOTT: Exactly. When my son left this morning to go catch his bus, he said, mom, is it going to be safe? Am I going to be OK? And that was heart-wrenching for me as a single mom thinking about my two kids. And once he got to the bus stop, he sent me a message and said, mom, this was the safest bus stop in the city of Louisville today --

BANFIELD: Really?

SCOTT: Because the police were out there. School is going to be out in a couple of weeks and I pray that that presence remains there when those school buses leave in the morning and when they get back in the afternoon, because those innocent children need to be kept safe.

BANFIELD: So here's my next question about safety. The people who were taken to the police include the woman who pulled out the gun an hour after the investigation and all the yellow tape and the crime scene processing began, and shot the other woman dead. Then she turned the gun and aimed it at the police. She's one of the people under guard at the hospital. And there are two other victims of the shooting who are at the hospital. A, what kind of guard are they under? B, do you have any idea what kind of crimes and charges they're facing?

SCOTT: At this point, because the investigation is still underway, we don't know the charges that they are facing. But we do know that there is heavy security, as there should be, because we, in community, have a fear of retaliation that may happen at the hospital and that may happen in the community.

BANFIELD: Councilwoman Scott, thank you for being with us. Good luck to you in your neighborhood and your city as well.

SCOTT: Thank you.

BANFIELD: This is a terrible strong to bring and I hope you can get things under control there. Thanks for being with us.

SCOTT: Thank you.

BANFIELD: Next up on the docket, what if Mitt Romney becomes president? Well, he is revealing exactly what he will do on his very first day in office. We'll tell you all about that.

Also, the host of "Inside The Actors Studio," James Lipton, tells Mitt Romney, here's a hint on how to be human. You're going to hear exactly what advice he's got for the front-runner, all next.

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BANFIELD: America's choice 2012. And he is only the presumptive nominee. But, come on, Mitt Romney is the guy to beat, right, for President Obama. And to that end, the Romney campaign is out today with the first official ad of the one-on-one race with the president. It's a quick one. So, take a peek.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE, POLITICAL AD: What would a Romney presidency be like? Day one. President Romney immediately approves the Keystone pipeline, creating thousands of jobs that Obama blocked. President Romney introduces tax cuts and reforms that reward job creators, not punish them. President Romney issues orders to begin replacing Obamacare with common sense health care reform. That's what a Romney presidency will be like.

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Mitt Romney and I approved this message.

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BANFIELD: Wow, that is a very busy day one. Gloria Borger joining us live now from Washington.

GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: Right.

BANFIELD: Ii thought we worked long hours. Girlfriend, that's an ambitious first day in the office. Clearly that's just sort of a metaphor for what he wants to do.

BORGER: Right. A it's sort of a pleased to meet you ad in case you hadn't been paying attention the last year. This is exactly what I would do for you. My agenda is clear. And, by the way, I think, you know, who knows what the second and third ads will be, but by comparison, where's the president's agenda, right?

So, you know, it's easier when you're not in office to say, this is what I would do on day one. I recall that President Obama, when he was candidate Obama, talked about, say, closing Guantanamo. Didn't happen. So I think this, you know, this is kind of the introductory handshake with the American people, if you will, saying, OK, it's all out there and it's pretty simple.

BANFIELD: And, Gloria, it also fulfills what he's been saying all this week, that he's focusing on the economy. He doesn't want to go dirty.

BORGER: Right.

BANFIELD: He doesn't want to deal with what came out in the proposal. And I'll get to that in a minute. Yesterday's big "New York Times" story. But true to his word, this day one ad is all about the economy. BORGER: Sure. It's all about the economy. And, by the way, it's playing in battleground states that are really important to him in this election. It's going to play for five days. They spent about $1.25 million on it, which is not huge but it's a substantial ad buy and it's playing in Virginia and North Carolina, Ohio and Iowa. Important, important to Mitt Romney.

BANFIELD: And one big detail, as well, that we weren't playing, but is playing elsewhere, is that it is playing entirely in Spanish, as well.

BORGER: It's also -- it's also going to run in Spanish. What's interesting to me, though, Ashleigh, is that we don't know how much they're spending to run it in Spanish and exactly where it's going to be. So I don't know how extensive the Spanish run will be. But you can be sure that both campaigns, particularly in battleground states where there are a lot of Hispanics that are really important in this election, that a lot of advertising will be run in Spanish.

BANFIELD: OK. I want to just skip over to what I was mentioning prior to that, and that was the big story yesterday. I'm going to hold up the printed-out version of what the proposal -- I'm not sure if anybody can actually read that, but it's "the defeat of Barack Hussein Obama." And inside that proposal was just a litany of really ugly stuff that you and I discussed yesterday. But there's been some fallout, some reaction. One of the thing that was sort of nasty was the reference to John McCain as a crusty old politician who's confused.

BORGER: Right.

BANFIELD: Because he didn't run ugly material about the Reverend Jeremiah Wright back in 2008. And a McCain disciple is responding to that, isn't he?

BORGER: Well, yes. I mean, you know, the McCain people, when you talk to them yesterday, as I did, in McCain world, which still exists, they're unhappy about this. A, they're unhappy at the way John McCain was described, they believe. And on the record, Charlie Black, for example, who's a former senior McCain advisor, said to me, anybody who wants to relitigate this ad, whether to talk about Reverend Wright is wrong. They just don't like McCain being described that way. And the notion is that Fred Davis, who's a respected ad person, needs to work in concert with the people who are the issues people because without that interaction, he sort of goes off on his own. And so they were very critical of him, I would have to say, privately.

BANFIELD: You're so diplomatic in saying going off on his own. Can I say what ABC News heard? And that is that -- they said that Mark Salter, one of the disciples of McCain, said that Fred Davis requires round the clock adult supervision. So it got even uglier.

BORGER: Yes, let's just say --

BANFIELD: I've got to --

BORGER: Let's just say, I'm hearing about the same things.

BANFIELD: But you're just so polite. Gloria Borger, it's always good to talk to you.

BORGER: I have different ground rules. Yes, OK.

BANFIELD: Nice to see you. Have a great day. Have a great weekend too.

BORGER: You too.

BANFIELD: Time now for political pop. He is the host and the executive producer of Bravo's "Inside The Actors Studio," a master of stagecraft. But today James Lipton is giving GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney some free lessons in, quote, "acting human." I kid you not. He joined Brooke Baldwin this morning on "Starting Point." You've got to see this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's start with your laugh.

MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, I live for laughter. I mean -- ha, ha --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It isn't working. It's inert.

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BANFIELD: OK, it would be so much more hilarious if you could have actually seen it. Our apologies. Sometimes we have bug-a-boos. It's Friday. It's going to happen now and again. Sorry. We'll work on getting that back.

In the meantime, yikes, tough words for the Republican presidential candidate, it's not working, your laugh isn't working. Poor guy. Maybe he has some time to work on it before November. Listen to this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Having spent my entire life in public service --

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BANFIELD: Oh, a heckler disrupting a graduation speech of an Obama cabinet member. And the whole beef has to do with contraception. That's coming up.

And, also, we're just getting word, 50 percent of ninth and tenth graders in Florida failed the state reading test. Think that's bad? It's sending a shock wave through the education community. There is more to tell. And we will tell you in a moment.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BANFIELD: Got some other news to catch you up on at this hour. Rapid fire. Roll it. Jurors are deciding if John Edwards used campaign money to try to hide his mistress and their love child.

They got hard at deliberations in the former senator's trial about four hours ago. And this just in, we are being told the jury is asking the judge if they can scrap it for today and return on Monday morning at 9:30 to resume those deliberations so far no answer.

So they are still at work. Earlier on, the judge denied a different request that they had. It was a request for a few transcripts in the case. The judge told the jury, no. You may not have the transcripts of the case.

You've got to go by memory. That's a month worth of memory too. So that's pretty stuff. Trial began on April 23rd. If you remember because we've been reporting it, Edwards is facing up to 30 years in prison if he's convicted of the six counts that he is facing in this trial.

Also a heckler targeting one of President Obama's cabinet members and this not at a political rally instead at a commencement speech at Georgetown University. Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Having spent my entire life in public service --

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BANFIELD: Well, the heckler sounded like he was getting heckled, too. Some including the Catholic Church aren't too happy having Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius there because the administration's health care law requires employer to provide contraception. Remember that debate, that won't go away.

Half of Florida's ninth and tenth graders failed the state's standardized tests for reading, half. Those results are out a couple of hours ago from the Florida Department of Education. I'm sorry to report.

Florida just instituted a brand-new and tougher test, as well. Students can choose to retake it, but they do need to pass that test in order to graduate. So imagine half failing?

Also coming from education news, a second grader in Colorado got in a lot trouble for painting his face black for an assignment on Martin Luther King Jr. Take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: I have a dream today that one day little black boys and black girls -- I have a dream today.

(END VIDEO CLIP) BANFIELD: That is Shaun King Jr. He is not black, but he says he painted his face black as part of a costume dressing as the civil rights leader. His class at Meridian Ranch Elementary had to dress up as historical figures. The principal says a teacher and other students were offended and directed Sean to wash that color off his face.

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UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: They thought it was inappropriate and would be disrespectful to black people. I say it's not. I like black people. I don't want to be mean to them. It's just a costume. I don't want to insult anybody.

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BANFIELD: His parents decided to pull Sean out of that school. The NAACP has come out supporting the principal's decision in this debate.

A condo fire in Portland, Oregon, it doesn't look from the start, but watch the firefighters on the burning roof. Whoa, yes, suddenly one of them falling right through. Two others make their way over to check on him.

Then they give the thumbs up to let everybody know he's OK. Thank God. Here it is again. Take a look. This video is just riveting stuff.

The firefighter was not hurt, but to report that two others were taken to the hospital and had to be treated for burned knees and also heat exhaustion. That is a heroic job they perform every day.

We are keeping an eye on Wall Street for you because as the closing bell gets closer on Facebook's first big day on the market, the stock is coming in at about $40 a share at this point.

In the next hour and a half, it will be key though what develops. We're going to take you there live. The Nasdaq elsewhere as well. Throughout the show, we're going to give you a full read how this day played out.

First though, you are probably familiar now with the Trayvon Martin shooting case. Probably every minute detail of information released. Now take a look at this video. It is the last video that we know of him alive.

Seeing him just minutes before he was shot. He is there buying those Skittles. See on the counter. He's also buying that ice tea. This is brand-new evidence that's released, including some of the sound from a witness you will not believe what the witness has to say. It's coming up.

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BANFIELD: For the last three months we have seen few images of what happened on the night George Zimmerman says he shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in self-defense, but that changed today.

We now have a clearer image of what happened just before and after that tragic night. Prosecutors releasing this surveillance video where we see the last moments of Trayvon Martin's life inside that 7-11, this is February 26th.

There he is. Trayvon has his hoodie on. He's at the counter. He's buying that bag of Skittles and the iced tea you have heard so many times before. There they are on the counter.

Along with this video that is really telling, if you think about this, we've only ever seen him one-dimensionally before. Here he is. We are also getting more than 200 pages of evidence and eyewitness accounts that were released this night about this night, including an audio recording from an eyewitness, an actual eyewitness.

Not a pundit. Not a legal expert, an eyewitness who says he saw the two men fighting. There is an autopsy report that said Trayvon had traces of marijuana in his system. Photos that were released that show wounds on Zimmerman's face and Zimmerman's head.

Medical records state he had abrasions on his forehead. You can see the pictures at the back of his head. They say he was bleeding from his nose and these small lacerations were on the back of his head.

So is all of this evidence informative? Absolutely. Is it compelling? Absolutely. Does it prove anything? That's a good question. What does it say about Zimmerman's claim of self-defense? That's another very good question.

And criminal defense attorney, Jill Davis, knows a thing or two. Thanks for being with us. First impression when you see those images that were released and what we like to call in the business the discovery dump. What did you think?

JILL DAVIS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Very compelling, as you said. I wondered why you thought the video of Trayvon Martin at the store was so compelling. What he was doing and what he was buying that night wasn't important to me at all. It's these photos of George Zimmerman, a broken nose.

BANFIELD: You're a lawyer and you think evidence and you think strategic bullet points, but juries are just people. This young man is iconic and Skittles and iced tea are iconic. I think that's why this picture was so riveting.

DAVIS: Boy, didn't people jump to an immediate conclusion right after the news broke on this story without all the facts? That's what I talk to juries about all the time is that we don't guess people guilty.

What happened in this case with George Zimmerman, I think we've seen it way too many times before because of community outrage, because of team Martin that pressured, I believe, the police to hurry up the investigation, to charge him, and even the special prosecutor, I believe, made a hasty decision.

I think these photos are not timely. I wish we would have had them and the public could have seen them. Maybe that would have really shed some light on what really happened that night.

BANFIELD: Jill, you hit the nail on the head right there, what really happened that night. I asked a bunch of questions coming in to you, informative, compelling, yes.

But does it answer the critical questions that need to be answered in a courtroom when it comes to stand your ground? Does any of that evidence speak to the stand your ground issue in those compelling moments we are missing in this case?

DAVIS: I think the people really need to understand what that stand your ground law is in Florida. We have it in Texas, as well. We don't call it that, but it's three things.

As long as George Zimmerman was in a legal place, he is lawfully in a place, yes. Was he engaging in any criminal activity? No. You may not like it that he talked to Trayvon Martin, but he has a legal right to do so to ask what he was up to.

It was raining? Why is he walking around in the rain? OK, he has the right to go up to him and if he reasonably believed that he was in danger of serious injury or death, he has the right to defend himself.

BANFIELD: Here is a piece of evidence that is sure to end up in this courtroom. Heretofore we have not heard from a witness who actually said this words to the police, but it was to say with who is on top of who. Have a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I first walked out there, the black guy was on top and the only reason I can tell that was because the guy that was on the ground under him at that point wrestling was definitely a lighter color.

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BANFIELD: Jill Davis, why can't prosecutors argue that this young man was in the fight of his life, he saw a man with a gun and he was trying to wrestle that gun away?

At that particular moment that witness happened to see him on the on top position? But who knows what the position might have been before that witness saw this?

DAVIS: Remember, the prosecutor is supposed to seek justice, OK? The autopsy revealed that Trayvon Martin did not have any of George Zimmerman's DNA under his finger nails. I mean, George Zimmerman was on the losing end of this fight.

BANFIELD: I think a lot people would say Trayvon Martin was without question on the losing end of this fight.

DAVIS: Well, all right. You want me to put on my legal hat now. So if I am defending George Zimmerman, which -- I mean, when I first about this case, you know what my first thought was I don't know yet.

I don't know yet and that is what bothers me that people acted like they did know. That they did know what happened. That is not right. That is not how our system works.

BANFIELD: The only people who should be saying what they think happened are those who are going to argue in a court of law and use evidence to bolster their claim. I hope we can do this again, Jill. I have missed talking to you. It's been a long time.

DAVIS: Thank you. Me, too.

BANFIELD: Jill Davis joining me from Houston, Texas. Thanks, Jill.

There are more than one million children ages 8-18 caring for an aging, ill or disabled member of their family in the United States. Does that register with you? Nearly a third of them under the age of 12, many times they have to skip school to be the caregiver. That's where this week's "CNN Hero" steps in.

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CONNIE SISKOWSKI, CHAMPIONING CHILDREN: Let me help you. My mom has been sick as long as I can remember. You need more methadone. Helping her out is a bigger priority than going to school because I don't know what I would do if something happened to her. I wouldn't be able to really live.

In the United States there are at least 1.3 million children caring for someone who is ill or injured or elderly or disabled. They can become isolated. There are physical effects, the stresses of it and the worry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you, baby.

The children suffer silently. People don't know they exist. I'm Connie Siskowski. I'm bringing this precious population into the light to transform their lives so they can stay in school. We offer each child a home visit.

We look at what we can provide to make their needs. They go into the schools with a peer support group. We offer school activities that give the child a break. So they know that they are not alone. We give them hope for their future.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, I'm getting As and Bs. I feel more confident.

SISKOWSKI: We have a long way to go. There are so many more children that really need this help and support.

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BANFIELD: I want to take you to a place we don't often take you to. Look on your screen. That is a very lonely road in the south of Syria. It's called "No Man's Land." There is a very good reason that we call it "No Man's Land."

It's that border between Jordan and Syria. Thousands of people try to scurry across it at all times. They risk being shot by their own security forces to do so. It's super dangerous. It's mostly deserted.

It doesn't matter though to CNN's Barbara Starr. My colleague there is with a CNN exclusive. Have a look.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: This is the "No Man's Land" between Jordan and Syria just a mile, a mile and a half down that road. You will come to the first Syrian security checkpoint.

The Jordanians, of course, will not allow us to go any further down this road because tensions can be pretty high right in this area. Tens of thousands of Syrians have escaped across this remote desert region into Jordan. They are being shot at by their own security forces as they try to escape.

In fact, in the local hospital here they tell us they have treated many Syrian refugees suffering from gunshot wounds. You see a car coming out of Syria. This is also what is going on here, taxis, trucks coming out of Syria with relatively cheap goods, food, other commodities.

They are bringing into Jordan. Jordan relies a good deal on this commercial traffic coming out of Syria. It is one of the major reasons things are so sensitive here. They want to keep this commercial relationship going.

But the Jordanians want Bashir Al Assad out of office and want to keep peace in this intense region. Barbara Starr, CNN on Jordan's northern border with Syria.

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BANFIELD: Thank you, Barbara. That is amazing just to consider that the commerce is still continuing despite all the bloodshed in that country.

I want to let you know also that Barbara is going to stay in Jordan because there is something going on there that you may not have heard of.

It is a massive military exercise, and not just any military exercises, 19 countries, 12,000 troops. Americans are going to be there. We'll let you know what they're going to do. We're going t update you as we get the information. It sort of trickles in, it's probably just how they like it as well. Two people shot to death on Mississippi highways, 50 miles apart. But there is a suspect now and he's been charged. Police have just ended a news conference where we learned some pretty bizarre details in this case. We're going to have them for you in a moment.

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BANFIELD: New information in those highway killings that left two people dead in Mississippi. Police say they have their man. There he is. If it is him, the sheriff's department holding a press conference about this, what did they say to give us any moment to exhale?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The story of how they came to arrest 28-year-old James Willie is rather fascinating. On Tuesday afternoon, there was a call of a disturbance in an apartment complex in the town of tunica, Mississippi, not too far away where the deadly shootings happened last week. There is a woman who accuses James Willie of raping her.

They take him into custody. In the process of doing that, they find he has a 9 millimeter hand gun. One of the detectives takes a closer look and it jogged his memory. For some reason he thought that might be connected to the shootings last week.

They rush the ballistics test. They send it off to the state crime lab in Mississippi. It turns out the gun matches the gun used in those shootings last week.

Because of that, the authorities there in northwest Mississippi have charged James Willie not only with kidnapping and rape with the case he was involved with there, but two counts of capital murder.

BANFIELD: Ed, that sounds like a lucky break in what was a big mystery. Keep on it for us. Send the details when you get them. Ed Lavandera live for us this afternoon.

Two story penthouse, 11,000 square feet of space, lovely right? How much would you pay for it? You're not going to believe what that went for.

And why my next guest says New York is considered the Disneyland of real estate.

The long awaited IPO of Facebook gets off to a rocky start. We'll go live to Wall Street where the countdown is on for the closing bell. Look at the number on the bottom left of your screen. That's where it stands right now. Going to change? Back in a flash.

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BANFIELD: There is an apartment in New York City, $90 million for a penthouse. Somebody actually paid that much money for 11,000 square feet. Who, you may wonder? Keep wondering because the broker is not saying and neither is the buyer. As for the penthouse, we can only show you the mock-up of the outside of this building because construction isn't set to be completed until next year. This is sight unseen, you all.

It does have a catchy address though, 157 as in West 57th Street. Not the priciest. When this is the sign of the times, are there two Americas? What the heck do you get for $90 million?

Who can afford such a thing? So the person to ask is the top New York real estate lawyer Adam who is joining us live from Las Vegas of all places. This sounds like a gamble to me if you're investing that much money in real estate at this time. Adam, set this down for me.