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Aired May 23, 2012 - 14:59 ET
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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Let's go to the top of the hour. Roll the open.
All right, the rough start for Facebook is getting rougher here. The social networking site went public on Friday amid much hype, hope in celebration and a technical glitch that disrupted trading in Facebook stock.
That was just the start of the problems for just about everyone involved in Facebook's IPO. Today, questions are being raised about whether some investors were misled about the biggest tech company stock offering in American history.
Among those trying to get to the bottom of it is William Galvin. He is the secretary of the Commonwealth in the state of Massachusetts. He has issued this subpoena to the leads underwriter of Facebook's IPO, that being Morgan Stanley.
William, welcome to you. First question, as we mention, it's your office that issued the subpoena. What specifically are you investigating here?
WILLIAM GALVIN, MASSACHUSETTS SECRETARY OF THE COMMOMWEALTH: Well, I'm the chief securities regulator of Massachusetts. Our interest is exactly how this IPO was marketed. And most specifically, what information was given to all investors and if there were categories of investors. That's the allegation.
I don't want to prejudice that. Morgan Stanley maintains that they did everything appropriately. It's very important that they move promptly to prove that to us. We proceed on facts not on assertions.
What is a larger issue here is that average investors, average citizens invested in this, as you noted in your introduction. It was a very widespread issue.
If there's going to be confidence going forward in the market place and the market right now, the financial markets are certainly recovering from an extended period of lack of confidence.
Then there has to be fairness in the market place. We can't have a situation where there are two categories of investors, those that are well informed because of their status or whatever future business they might deliver and average citizens. BALDWIN: That's part of the frustrations from average folks who perhaps bought some shares of Facebook and they're thinking well, I didn't get (INAUDIBLE) of any this.
Should I even have faith in the marketplace as we know it today? But let me back you up, how did you even get wind. How did you get wind of this to then issue this subpoena?
GALVIN: We've heard many from many investors and we've heard even more since we issued the subpoena. My office has had a history of dealing with this type of different treatment.
Just last year, we fined Goldman Sachs $10 million for their practice of treating investors differently. And previously my office has been involved with market timing and mutual funds the same underlying issue or concept namely giving special reference to certain customers over others at the expense of others.
Because of that, I think we have a specialty in this area. The issue is that Morgan Stanley needs to come forward promptly, respond to the subpoena, provide whatever information it can.
Because this is having a negative effect on the overall market, it's not just a Facebook issue. It's the concept out there that the market is not something that can be trusted and that's not something we want. We all need a strong, vibrant, honest market.
BALDWIN: Sure. Do you now -- can you tell me which clients Morgan Stanley allegedly told, which tier client?
GALVIN: That would be part of our investigation.
BALDWIN: OK.
GALVIN: At this point, we want all the facts, we want them promptly, we want them out there.
We proceed by various on-the-record interviews and documentary evidence. That's what we want to look at. We're not interested in assertions or rumors or anything else.
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BALDWIN: Well, I don't want to speculate either, so I'm just going to move you. I'm going to move you past that. And let me just ask you this, because people are throwing out this phrase insider trading when it comes to this story.
And, as we mentioned, these are just allegations. And as you mentioned at the top, we're dealing in facts here.
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GALVIN: That's correct.
BALDWIN: But could this, based upon what you know, might this lead to -- might this be akin to insider trading?
GALVIN: Well, it could be. It depends on the specifics of the facts.
What is the greater concern, as I said, is different categories of investors. We need to be assured that everyone, every investor gets treated the same. Everybody's money is just as good as everybody else's. People should not be in a position where they are treated as second-class investors. That's the overriding concern.
BALDWIN: Let me make sure I jump in. Here's what Morgan Stanley is saying.
They say "It followed -- and I'm quoting -- "the same procedures for the Facebook offering that it follows for all IPOs."
So, to your point here, faith in the market, assuring every investor, what is your assurance right now here on national TV to all investors, all clients here on the market?
GALVIN: Well, the only way you can get assurance is by facts.
As I said, we have had a history, my office has had a history in dealing with facts. That's why we fined Goldman $10 million. They had a categorization they euphemistically called huddles withes investors and with analysts and traders.
We need to get to the facts. That can only get done on the record and with documentary evidence. It's imperative that Morgan Stanley respond immediately, so that they can clear the air here. If there's something to be pursued, we will definitely pursue it.
BALDWIN: Based upon what you know, how would you characterize that?
GALVIN: Well, I characterize I have great concern, obviously.
The breadth of this issue, the amount of money -- I testified before the Financial Services Committee of the U.S. House just last Thursday before this issue was out. I raised issues then about procedure. And, in fact, the Goldman matter came up at that time.
Here we are, a matter of days later, and literally billions of dollars, at least based on the current trade -- I know it's up a little bit today -- billions of dollars have been at least on paper lost. Many of those investors are smarting from that experience right now.
How do get people to invest in the market? How do you get people to have confidence? You have to have facts you can rely on. And that's what regulators are for.
BALDWIN: Yes.
GALVIN: That's why we need to establish the facts, not based on press statements, but on facts. BALDWIN: Right. Right.
William Galvin, we will be following those facts and that investigation.
GALVIN: Thank you.
BALDWIN: We appreciate you there for us in Massachusetts.
Now, this Massachusetts subpoena, this is just one sliver of the problems for Facebook and its partners here in this stock offering.
And Julianne Pepitone is following the aftermath of Facebook IPO for us at CNN Money.
And, Julianne, there are so many moving parts to this story. Let's just begin with the lawsuit investors have filed. Tell me about that.
JULIANNE PEPITONE, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: Yes.
This morning, a group of investors filed a lawsuit against Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, and the banks' underwriters of the deal. And what they're out -- what they're alleging is that Facebook improperly disclosed certain information to just the big banks who were able to tell their clients, their kind of big hedge funds, institutional clients.
And they didn't disclose that information to regular mom and pop investors, which is a big problem as far as regulatory bodies are concerned, if the allegations are true.
BALDWIN: What about the technical glitches that they experienced with the Nasdaq on Friday? Where does that stand? Have we worked through those glitches?
PEPITONE: Yes, the problems with Facebook's IPO began right at the start of trading.
We were expecting Facebook to begin trading at about 11:00 on Friday. That was delayed by a half-hour. And even when it began trading, there were people saying, I don't know if my order has gone through. I don't know what happened to my order. I don't know if I got a share.
So, five days later, they're still working through those problems. There's a technical glitch that caused the delay in the initial trading. There are still a lot of traders who are confused though about what happened with their trades. Some people got the shares for more than they expected to be paying for them. Some of them just disappeared into the ether. So Nasdaq is still working that out.
BALDWIN: With all of these issues, I just do have to lift the veil and ask this question when it comes to the media, because if you picked up any paper on Friday, it was certainly front-page news, Facebook and the IPO. Certainly, cable networks picked it up and have been the last couple of days.
Is the media at all to blame?
PEPITONE: There are a lot of people pointing fingers at the media, just at the general hype.
BALDWIN: Yes.
PEPITONE: It's important to note that for a lot of people, investing in a single company, you have to know a lot about that company. There are a lot of risks involved in getting into an IPO. And banks try to make sure that people who are just getting into know that.
But, still, you're seeing it everywhere. People are so interested. There has not been an IPO that has been as hyped as Facebook in a long time. So, there are lot of people blaming the hype for kind of, saying, oh, you know, everything is going to be great. It's Facebook. It touches a lot of people's lives. It's so exciting.
But now the reality we're seeing is very different than what the hype was.
BALDWIN: Julianne Pepitone, thank you. We will wait and see if Mark Zuckerberg ever does come out and say anything after all of this and after we saw him on Friday.
I appreciate it, Julianne. Thank you.
Got a lot more for you in the next two hours, including this.
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BALDWIN: A pastor in North Carolina says he wants gays to be held behind an electrified fence until they die, those comments sparking outrage, though there are members of his congregation who agree.
I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.
COMMAND SGT. MAJ. TERESA KING, U.S. ARMY: They need to be held accountable.
BALDWIN (voice-over): A tough-talking Army woman suspended, she says for doing her job. Now she's facing the biggest battle of her career.
(SNORING)
BALDWIN: Really? Is that what you want to hear on the other end of a 911 call? It happened. And we will play it for you.
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(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: In the age of the Internet, with YouTube, even a pastor in this small North Carolina church can gain a worldwide audience and do very quickly. Such is the case of Pastor Charles Worley of the Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, North Carolina.
His Mother's Day sermon has gone viral. Sad to say that sermon does not carry the message of love. In fact, I am not going to repeat what he said. You can hear it for yourself.
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CHARLES WORLEY, PASTOR, PROVIDENCE ROAD BAPTIST CHURCH: Build a great big large fence, 150- or 100-mile-long. Put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. And have that fence electrified, so they can't get out.
Feed them. And you know what? In a few years, they will die out.
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BALDWIN: Yes. Gary Tuchman, our correspondent, he is Maiden right now. He is trying to track down this pastor and ask him to -- ask him about his comments face to face. You see him knocking on the door. So far, no luck.
This preacher doesn't want to talk. But Gary has reached some of the parishioners here, the neighbors in this community. I want you to listen as they are sharing their thoughts.
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JANIE BEARD, NEIGHBOR OF PASTOR WORLEY: He would give you the shirt off his back. He would do anything he could for you.
GARY TUCHMAN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I mean, he said in church that he wants to put gay people behind electric fences and have them all die out. What do you think about that?
BEARD: Well, that's not really what he said. He said -- yes, he says some of that, but he was going to feed them and everything else. And you know that.
TUCHMAN: But so you're saying that it's OK if you feed them?
BEARD: Well, I'm not saying it's OK one way or the other. What I'm saying, that is his opinion.
JOE HEFFNER, CHURCH MEMBER: Probably the most compassionate man I have ever known. I don't know. He's just got a big heart for people. He takes a real firm stand on the Bible and what it says about different things, whether I like it or not or whether anybody likes it or not. He stands for the Bible.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Being gay and lesbian or whatever, homosexual, is wrong according to the Bible. It's wrong.
TUCHMAN: Well, even if you believe that, though, his words that they should be put in an electrified fence, don't you think that's a little dramatic and a little rude and a little scary?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, because his point and reasoning was to see if they reproduce, but like it is...
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TUCHMAN: There's a lot of heterosexual couples who don't reproduce either.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Adam and Eve. That's what was in the very beginning, Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
TUCHMAN: Yes, but why put Adam and Steve in a jail, an electrified jail? Isn't that just mean? And that's not what the Bible, that's not what God wants for man to be mean to their fellow man.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's not saying that to be mean. Like I just said...
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TUCHMAN: If that's not mean, what is it, though?
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We love the people, hate the sin, OK, point blank. You need to lay off my pastor.
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BALDWIN: Wow. Gary Tuchman, you saw him knocking on the door. He is trying to reach out to Pastor Worley. He's going to have much more on this story tonight during "A.C. 360" 8:00 Eastern time. We will see if he gets him.
A female sergeant at a top-notch Army school was suspended from her job after complaints that she was too tough. But she says the real reason she was suspended is because she's a woman.
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BALDWIN: If it's interesting and happening right now, you're about to see it, "Rapid Fire." Let's go.
First up here, the Boeing company got a huge boost today. Its first 787 assembled in Charleston, South Carolina, took off on its maiden flight; 6,000 Boeing employees were on hand to see this thing head up into the skies. And while Boeing wouldn't exactly say where this jet was going, our flight tracker shows it flew out above the Atlantic and then headed back out to South Carolina. There she goes. A Pakistani doctor accused of helping the U.S. track down Osama bin Laden has been sentenced to prison. Shakil Afridi got a 33-year sentence and was also fined $3,500. He was accused of spying for the U.S. The ruling by a tribal court can be appealed. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has called for Afridi to be released.
And now to the picture no parent wants to see. Look at this, a school bus completely overturned here. This is Virginia. This happened this morning -- 36 students and the bus driver were on board the bus; 13 students, we're told, went to the hospital, had minor injuries. The driver here was charged with reckless driving. Virginia State Patrol says she apparently was looking in the rear-view mirror when she ran this bus right off the road.
And friends and family are gathering this hour to remember the queen of disco, Donna Summer. The five-time Grammy Award winner died of lung cancer just last Thursday at age 63. So here is what we know. This is what's happening in Nashville at a Tennessee church. You know the story. She rose to fame in the '70s, "Love to Love You Baby," "I Feel Love," another one of her disco era hits.
It's actually one of 25 sounds selected today to be preserved for future generations in the National Recording Registry of the Library of Congress. Wow.
It is Fleet Week in New York City, plenty of Navy ships up and down the Hudson River there, along with 17 majestic tall ships rigged with traditional sales. The week-long event started with a parade of ships from all around the world, including Japan and Finland, even the United Kingdom.
This year's celebration marks the bicentennial of the War of 1812.
And next to Seattle here for this moment and the birds, the Sea- Tac Airport for a little wildlife management here. It only takes one bird to strike and -- to strike to really remind us that airports and birds really don't mix. So, this week, there was a bit of an unusual effort to free -- here they go -- free young hawks out of Sea-Tac's danger zone.
The birds hatched just five weeks ago. And within two weeks -- aww -- actually kind of ugly cute. I guess they're trying their wings -- with huge jetliners flying overhead, you understand the possible problems. The babies are now living on a farm under more friendly skies.
The first woman commandant of an elite drill sergeant school says she was suspended from her position because -- she says because she was a woman. And it turn she may have been right.
Jason Carroll has her story.
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JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): We first met Command Sergeant Major Teresa King three years ago at Fort Jackson, Columbia, South Carolina.
(on camera): What are you looking for? I mean -- because it all pretty much looks like everyone is exercising to me.
KING: I'm looking for attention to detail.
CARROLL (voice-over): the first woman to lead the army's elite drill sergeant school, a symbol of physical and emotional strength. That was then.
KING: When I'm going through this devastating situation, it's important for me to set the example. And that's where I'm at.
CARROLL: Now king faces the toughest battle of her 32-year military career. She filed a formal complaint against the Army charging her superiors mistreated her because she's a woman.
KING: I'm not in a position where I can say what should happen to my superiors. But I will say they need to be held accountable.
CARROLL: King was suspended following complaints of micromanaging and toxic leadership -- factors she says would not have been questioned if she were a man. Some rank and file questioning her lack of combat experience, but as a woman, King can't go to the front lines. King, who had earned top scores for physical fitness, says she was punished for rejecting unfit candidates.
KING: I think drill sergeants should be some of the highest standard bearers in the Army. And that's the only way we can make soldiers.
CARROLL: King submitted a 19-page rebuttal, describing his accusers as disgruntled because they face disciplinary action. Two of her superiors, Command Sergeant Major John Calpena and Major General Richard Longo, oversaw a six-month investigation. During that period, King was not allowed to have any contact with students or staff, cut off, she says, from her military family.
KING: I think I lost touch of consciousness because it was so painful.
CARROLL: King sought help from attorney and state legislature James Smith, also one of her former soldiers. Smith says he believed in her then and now.
JAMES SMITH, TERESA KING'S ATTORNEY: Her suspension is and was unwarranted. Now the point is, and what we're asking, is for a review of how and why all this took place.
CARROLL: Earlier this month, the army found king's suspension was not warranted, informing her "Your suspension is lifted." Smith says not good enough.
An army spokeswoman saying neither Calpena nor Longo could comment. King's reinstatement came just in time for the change of responsibility ceremony, a commandant's final act -- the official transfer of power.
KING: There were some days I didn't feel like I wanted to live. But I believe in hope against all hope.
CARROLL: Supporters surrounded King who says despite everything, she'd serve the army again.
KING: I want to make sure that this does not happen to another person.
CARROLL: Jason Carroll, CNN, Columbia, South Carolina.
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BALDWIN: The Obama campaign targeting specific groups of Americans. He's focusing on women, gays, lesbians, college students, businesses. Is this a winning strategy?
We're going to talk to our chief White House correspondent.
And we now know where the woman is who forced that U.S. Airways jet out of the sky. It was heading from Paris to Charlotte, remember, ended up diverted in Bangor, Maine.
"Reporter Roulette" is next.
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BALDWIN: Hispanics, women, and today LGBT Americans, the Obama campaign seeking reelection by targeting specific groups in America. Also, a woman is now officially booked on federal charges after causing a jet to divert yesterday. And a defendant in the Florida A&M University hazing death case says drum major Robert Champion wanted to be hazed.
Time to play "Reporter Roulette."
Want to begin with chief White House correspondent Jessica Yellin.
And, Jessica, as we're talking about here, the Obama camp announcing this new outreach effort to target the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered community. Why this group specifically, and is this at all because of his news on his stance on marriage equality?
JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Right. Hi, Brooke.
Well, latest polling shows that the same-sex marriage announcement was a wash politically. About half the country supports him for his decision. About half the country is less likely to support him for the decision, a new ABC/"Washington Post" poll shows. About 55 percent say it's not going to be a major factor in their vote.
But the campaign is mobilizing the LGBT community, lesbian-gay community, Republicans as well as Democrats. And the important takeaway there is this. It's an indicator of the campaign's overall strategy. They're targeting demographic groups, here, the lesbian and gay community.
But we have already seen many campaigns targeting women, Latinos, seniors worried about Medicare with unique messages tailored to their concerned. Now, contrast that with 2008, remember, when the president then said there's not a red America or blue America. There's one America.
Well, this time, there's a campaign with many messages targeted to many different Americas -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: OK, many Americas.
And also in terms of news, there's been a lot of attention focused on the Obama 2012 campaign, the attacks on Romney's former private equity firm, Bain Capital. What's behind the strategy? And, also, you know, there's been some criticism that perhaps those ads were certainly a distraction from, say, the state of the economy.
YELLIN: The Obama campaign does not buy that criticism and is going to stick with the strategy. And that's because Bain is one piece of the puzzle. It's not their entire campaign against Mitt Romney and his message on the economy.
So the Bain attacks appeal to sort of industrial state workers who feel that the deck is so, as they say, deck is stacked against them. But there are many other ways that they will go at Romney, including his record on the economy in Massachusetts, his record on lesbian and gay issues, on immigration, his proposal to redesign Medicare, each, again, hitting specific demographic groups, each, again, hitting these many different slices of America, if you will, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Jessica Yellin, thank you in Washington.
Also today, new details here on that bizarre incident that broke yesterday afternoon on this U.S. Airways flight. This woman slips this note to a crew member on board and basically the note read, I have a surgically implanted device in me, obviously worrying the crew, causing the flight to be rerouted from Paris to Bangor, Maine, instead of heading on to Charlotte.
Lizzie O'Leary was all over it yesterday for us.
So, Lizzie, there are no charges being filed, is that correct? But she's in jail.
LIZZIE O'LEARY, CNN AVIATION AND REGULATION CORRESPONDENT: She's now being held in the custody of U.S. Customs and Immigration.
And we should point out, Brooke, essentially, they had a hearing today and the government decided that no charges should be filed against this woman.
BALDWIN: Ah.
O'LEARY: She's a French citizen from Cameroon originally. And basically what the government is saying is that evidence developed since that time that caused the U.S. to determine that no criminal charges should be filed.
We reached out to the French Embassy, since she is a French citizen. It's likely that she would be routed back to France -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: So then what is this about this woman talking to this French radio station days before she hopped on this flight? What was that about? What were they talking about?
O'LEARY: Yes, this is a particularly bizarre twist in how all of this unfolded, reports from a radio station in France, Africa Radio 1, that apparently did an interview with this woman -- they claim it's this woman -- on Monday, the day before she got on this plane, in which she claimed she had several surgically implanted devices that had been implanted into her, that she didn't trust the French health service and she was going to the United States to try to get scans and get them out of her.
They thought this was a particularly strange interview and they said so. And they sort of didn't really connect the dots until this incident unfolded yesterday -- Brooke.
BALDWIN: Totally bizarre, to use your word. Lizzie O'Leary, thank you so much for us in Washington.
Next on "Reporter Roulette," one of the men defending himself against charges that he insisted in the death of a Florida A&M drum major says Robert Champion wanted -- quote -- "respect" and that he asked to be hazed.
George Howell, he's in New York following this one for us.
And, George, why did -- how are they saying this? Why would he want to be hazed? What is this -- what is this person saying?
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, we are hearing this from Jonathan Boyce. This was a -- a fellow drum major. And he's also charged in this case. And as you mentioned a minute ago, he says -- this is what he told investigators, that this was a respect thing, Robert going through hazing.
And he also says that Robert wanted to do it all season. We also heard from several witnesses -- rather read this information from several witnesses, who say that hazing was optional. All of this flies in the face of what Robert Champion's mother and father said, that Robert was against hazing. Here's what they had to say just a few hours ago at a news conference in Atlanta.
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PAM CHAMPION, ROBERT CHAMPION'S MOTHER: He was murdered on that bus. And no one signs up for that. No one. So for someone to say, well, this is what he wanted to do and this is hazing, of course, I still and I will continue to say the word hazing is not what was actually done. It was brutal manslaughter, beating, whatever the legal terms there is. But it certainly wasn't hazing.
HOWELL: Brooke, Pam Champion says all of this information that's coming out is shocking. And she also wants to see an independent panel decide whether the FAMU band will march again. She says she does not want to see the university president, Dr. James Amons (ph), make that decision.
BALDWIN: Hmm. Respect, huh? I know there are new documents in this case. They're out. Have you had time to go through them? What's in them?
HOWELL: Brooke, a lot of information. I want to show it to you here. More than 2,000 pieces of paper, a lot of information. These are the witness accounts. Also people who are charged in this case, this is what they told investigators and it also gives us a better understanding of what prosecutors believe happened on that bus, these two different forms of hazing, the first is being on the hot seat.
These witnesses describe that as a process where the victim is in a seat on the bus and other band members put a blanket or a towel over that are person's head while they beat and punch repeatedly. The other is crossing bus sea, which we've heard of.
BALDWIN: Right.
HOWELL: This is where the victim is in the front of the bus, moves to the back of the bus while being attacked throughout.
BALDWIN: George Howell, thank you.
And that's your "Reporter Roulette" here on this Wednesday.
And so now you've probably heard, the Tennessee man who claims he had 30 kids, couldn't afford child support on his minimum wage job. Remember we talked about this a couple of days ago? Well, we're learning a little bit more about him, including that he's a bit of a fibber.
Sunny Hostin, she is back on this case. She's next.
Quick note for you. If you are heading out the door, keep watching. Watch from your mobile phone. Watch from work. Watch from your desktop. The URL is CNN.com/TV, CNN.com/TV.
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BALDWIN: Got a follow-up on a story we talked about a couple of days ago. You blew up my Twitter page over this guy, this 33-year-old who supposedly has these 30 children and wants basically a break from the state on his child support. So turns out there is more, or actually I should say less to the story than meets the eye.
Sunny Hostin, back "On the Case" with us today.
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BALDWIN: OK. So the guy doesn't actually have 30 kids, he has --
SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Twenty-four, and I suppose, Brooke, that's a better number than 30 for Mr. Desmond Hatchett (ph), right? So we were talking about this case just the other day. And my Twitter blew up as well. People were really outraged by the fact that he had allegedly 30 children and he hadn't been paying child support.
Well, get this. He only has 24 children and on top of that, he hasn't been paying child support, but that's because he's been incarcerated since 2009. Now I don't know what charges he was convicted of or why he is being held, but he has been incarcerated since 2009. He won't be released until November 2014.
We have found all of this out from the magistrate judge who is handling these custody cases. His name is Magistrate Stan Briggs (ph) and he says that he has had to incarcerate Mr. Hatchett for nonpayment of custody in the past. But that's not what's going on right now. He's not paying any custody because he's not making any money while in jail.
BALDWIN: Now, I don't have any experience in this. Let me just ask you, if you are behind bars and you do owe child support, does that mean you don't have to pay because you're in prison?
HOSTIN: Well, what we're learning is he's not paying right now because he is in prison, but the judge made it very clear that when he is out in November of 2014, he will be asked to pay that child support. The child support order will be enforced.
And again, the judge has had to incarcerate him for nonpayment in the past. And so perhaps these women and their children will be getting some sort of money in 2014, but they're not going to get it anytime soon.
BALDWIN: That's still two years away. Thinking about all those moms, 11 of them.
Story number two, these -- I know we -- you read about items or products online or services and you can post reviews. Perhaps you have posted a review or two. So there's a plastic surgeon in Orlando who is suing 10 patients who got online, posted anonymous reviews, negative reviews of his work online. This is according to our affiliate out of Orlando, WSTV (ph).
One of these women wrote that her, quote, "nine-inch scars are horrific, frightening and unnecessary." She had had a breast augmentation surgery. So let's just begin with the doctor. What does the doctor specifically want here?
HOSTIN: Well, you know, he's suing, we don't know what the damages are or how much money he wants because that's not, you know, explained in the suit. He says, though, that he's not suing for money that, in fact he's suing because he wants to get a better idea of what his patients really think.
I suspect that there's more to it than that, but let me say this. A lot of people are talking about this case and they feel that the doctor has no right to sue, you know, these reviewers.
Well, the bottom line is, we've talked about this before, Brooke, when you anonymously say something online, it's never really anonymous because your address can be found out. Your identity can be found out and you can't defame someone. You are entitled to your opinion, but if they are lying about perhaps their scars, then the doctor could possibly have some recourse here.
BALDWIN: But if they're not lying --
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BALDWIN: -- if these are legitimate complaints and concerns and you're not really anonymous, then their side has a little merit.
HOSTIN: That's right. And this suit would have absolutely no merit because, of course, a complete defense to defamation is the truth. And if those scars are really nine inches and if she feels they are terrific and terrible, then she is exempt from being sued from this doctor. So more to find out about this particular case.
BALDWIN: OK. So moral of the story, if you're frustrated about, say, some hotel or some doctor or some product you tried and you hop online and you don't speak so kindly of it, they can find you.
HOSTIN: They can find you. But you're usually, again, OK, if it's your opinion and it's truthful.
BALDWIN: Yes. Sunny Hostin, thank you.
HOSTIN: Thanks, Brooke.
BALDWIN: Father of three rescues an unconscious woman from New York City subway tracks while his children watch. You have got to hear from him. That's next.
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BALDWIN: Parents, they tell their children, do the right thing. But one father in New York didn't just say it, he risked his life to do it, risking his life after making a split-second decision. CNN's Mary Snow has this amazing story.
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MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For the Wetzel family, riding the subways comes with a warning. Greg Wetzel says he always tells his three children to stay far from away from the platform edge. But on Saturday, he abandoned his own advice. GREG WETZEL, RESCUED WOMAN ON SUBWAY TRACK: As we approached this area about 20 feet, I see a woman lying on the tracks there. And you know, I have the three little ones, and I had to make a decision at that point.
SNOW (voice-over): To make that decision, Greg looked to see when the next train was due to barrel through.
SNOW: When you looked up at the clock, it said two minutes?
WETZEL: That's when it said two minutes.
SNOW (voice-over): The woman was unconscious. With his kids watching, Greg jumped in to move her away from the deadly third rail and towards the platform.
WETZEL: Regardless of how much you weigh, again, dead weight of a human being is heavy, unusually so. You'd be surprised.
SNOW: Did she respond at all?
WETZEL: No, not at all.
SNOW (voice-over): With time at a minimum, he raced to come up with a plan B, getting her to the gap between the tracks.
WETZEL: I felt that if I could then maneuver her maybe in that area, and then jump out, worst case scenario, the train would roll over her. But certainly the way she was laying, she was right across the tracks.
SNOW (voice-over): Greg managed to get the unconscious woman close enough to the platform for bystanders to lift her out. Paramedics took her to a local hospital. EMS says she was apparently intoxicated when she fell and didn't provide her name.
Days later, her sneakers still mark the spot where she was rescued. As for the Wetzels, they're hoping all those warnings to their kids will stick with them.
SNOW: Did you think it was that dangerous before?
ETHAN WETZEL, GREG'S SON: No, but now I know it's really dangerous.
SNOW: These arrival times (INAUDIBLE) in recent years are really there for convenience. But in this case, they (INAUDIBLE) -- Mary Snow, CNN, New York.
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BALDWIN: Well, from some heroics to lack thereof, this is the last thing you want to hear when you pick up the phone and dial 9-1-1, the last thing, in fact, it's so bad you don't ever want to hear this. Not when you have an emergency and need someone to answer the phone and help you out. That is next. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BALDWIN: Instead of being on alert, a 9-1-1 dispatcher was caught nodding off. As in asleep. As in snoring, as a desperate woman calls in to try to save her husband. I want you to listen here as the worker who first actually answers the call transfers the woman to this snoring dispatcher for help.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello? Hello? Hello?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, ma'am, fire and rescue. Are you there?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, yes?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Hold on one second, ma'am. I'm going to try to get them on the line again.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
Oh.
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BALDWIN: You can kind of hear it, right? This happened in April in Maryland but the audio of the call came out. The dispatcher is now on paid leave. In total, you can hear the dispatcher snoring 17 to 18 times. At one point, a second dispatcher, who is helping this woman, gets confused, thinks the snores are coming from the unconscious husband.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't know what to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right. Is that him I hear in the background?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Excuse me?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that him I hear in the background?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, uh-huh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How old is he?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Forty-three.
Oh, he -- I don't know, he's blue again.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Can you tilt his head back? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, but he is like he went -- oh, I don't -- oh, he's -- oh. Oh, I don't know what to do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, ma'am. Is he still making the snoring noises?
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BALDWIN: Yes, that's not her husband making the noises. The fire official says the husband did not have any adverse effects because of the delay caused by the snoring. The snoring dispatcher was 17 hours into his 24-hour shift when that happened.
It is graduation time for the town of Griswold, Connecticut, had a ceremony unlike any other honoring just one graduate with his diploma more than 50 years overdue. This went to 83-year-old Joseph
Ali, who left the 12th grade to fight in the Korean War back in 1950 and never actually finished high school. Look at that crowd on their feet, as they should be. A new law allowed the principal to give the degree to the father of five.
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DEBRA MARSCHAT, ALI'S DAUGHTER: He certainly deserves it. Yes. He's worked very hard. He's been a great father.
MARK FRIZZELL, GRISWOLD HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL: This is just a nice thing to do, for I believe, an 83-year-old man, who never complained that he didn't have it, but it did sneak up in conversation with his neighbor that that's one regret he had in life.
It's emotional, well, because a lot of memories were brought back. It makes it tough.
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BALDWIN: And our congratulations to him. Six hundred students gave this standing ovation to Ali, who thought he was just going to a regular pep rally. No, not so much, sir. You got your diploma.
"THE SITUATION ROOM" just a couple minutes away with Mr. Wolf Blitzer.
And, Wolf, I know you spoke with former Secretary of State Colin Powell today. You talked marriage equality, Afghanistan and specifically the threat of Al Qaeda here in this post-Osama bin Laden world.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST: You know, Al Qaeda seems to be pretty robust out there, especially in Yemen, and apparently according to some reports, even in Syria right now. We spoke about that. Let me play this little clip, Brooke, for our viewers, this exchange I had with General Powell on Al Qaeda.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BLITZER: All these years after 9/11, are you surprised that Al Qaeda, even after the death of bin Laden, is still out there?
GEN. COLIN POWELL, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: You know, this is an organization that franchised itself out a number of years ago. It isn't just Osama bin Laden leading a single hierarchical organization. These are people who have a belief in terrorism, who have some connection to Osama bin Laden, but it's really a franchised operation.
And you can expect them to pop up wherever they find fertile ground, whether it's in Yemen or in Syria or in other places of the world. So I think it says to us, be on the alert, don't think it's over. These folks are still out there and they'll come after you again if you let them.
Keep up our intelligence work, our law enforcement work, our military activities, keep working with our friends and allies to make sure they're doing everything they can in order to make sure that this threat does not grow.
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BLITZER: We also, Brooke, had an extensive exchange on what he regards as the worst intelligence blunder, certainly, of his professional career, when he testified before the United Nations Security Council before the war in Iraq, that Iraq did, in fact, have weapons of mass destruction. We know that intelligence was obviously wrong and it stays with him every single day.
You're going to want to hear what he has to say about that. He wrote about it in his brand new book, which he's out promoting right now, as well. So it's a good, solid interview.
BALDWIN: So that interview, and I was looking at your Twitter page. You were also talking about these new polls including women. We talked a lot about women voters and how they perceive both the president and Mitt Romney. Can you give me a preview?
BLITZER: Yes. Well, you remember a couple of weeks ago, maybe a week ago, "The New York Times" CBS News had a poll which showed that gender gap between the president and Mitt Romney had narrowed dramatically if it existed at all.
And a lot of people, including our own polling experts here at CNN, Keating Holland (ph), who is our pollster, said there seems to have been a flaw in that "New York Times" CBS poll, because they went back, requestioned people that had asked the questions before, but they couldn't find all of them. That was a mistake, at least according to a lot of polling experts.
Now there's a brand new poll out by "The Wall Street Journal" and NBC News and they show that gender gap simply doesn't -- I mean, there's a huge gender gap. It's gone back to where it was in our earlier polls, almost all of the other polls, the president has a solid, solid lead over Mitt Romney when it comes to American women voters out there. So we're going to discuss that. Hilary Rosen is here, David Frumm (ph) is here. We're going to go in-depth on that a little bit as well.
BALDWIN: Wolf, we'll see you at the top of the hour. Thank you, sir.
BLITZER: Thank you.
BALDWIN: What the Taliban thinks about education is evident in this recent attack. More than 120 schoolgirls are poisoned in Afghanistan. The Taliban, religious conservatives are sending a clear message to girls who would like to have -- like to be smart, like to seek knowledge. CNN's Nick Paton Walsh takes us bedside to where some of the girls are currently recovering.
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BALDWIN: A Pakistani doctor is accused of helping the U.S. track down Osama bin Laden. He's now been sentenced to prison. He's Shaquille Afridi, got a 33-year sentence, was also fined 3,500 bucks. He was accused of spying for the United States. This ruling by a tribal court can be appealed and U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has actually called for Afridi to be released.
In Afghanistan you expect horrible stories coming out of this country. It is, after all, a war zone some 11 years later. But this report from Nick Paton Walsh is not about your usual attack. For the second time now in two months schoolgirls, schoolgirls and their teachers have been poisoned. The suspects here, they are insurgents who oppose girls getting an education. Watch.
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NICK PATON WALSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): To Afghanistan's most extreme conservatives like the Taliban, girls going to school is so offensive they'll do anything to stop it, including poison schoolgirls.
This morning, students went into class at the Bibi Hegera (ph) girls' school in northern Takhar province and noticed a powerful smell. They began to fall ill. In panic, 125 girls were rushed to hospital. There, headaches and dizziness set in, forcing the girls requiring longer treatment.
DR. HABIBULLAH ROSTAQI, HOSPITAL DIRECTOR (through translator): A number of girls aged from 15 to 18 were brought from a school to a hospital today. Generally, they are not in critical condition. We are looking after them, but let's see what happens later. We understand so far from the situation that they are mostly traumatized.
WALSH (voice-over): Amid the distress here, a growing fear that even in the once-peaceful north, hardliners can strike at will. Police have sent blood samples from the poisoned girls to Kabul for analysis to work out what the poison is, but they already know who to blame. KHALILULLAH ASEER, SPOKESMAN, TAKHAR POLICE (through translator): Actually, the Afghan people know that the terrorists and the Taliban are doing these things to threaten girls and stop them from going to school. That's something we and the people believe. Now we are implementing democracy in Afghanistan. We want girls to be educated, but the government's enemies don't want this.
WALSH (voice-over): This has happened elsewhere before and in this province only a few months ago, fear, a powerful weapon but not powerful enough yet to stop these girls from wanting to learn -- Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Kabul.
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BALDWIN: Nick, thank you.
Before I let you go, I just want to show you this picture. The Boeing Company got a huge boost today. This is the first 787 assembled in Charleston, South Carolina, here it goes, taking off today on its maiden flight.
Six thousand Boeing employees were on hand to watch this inaugural flight and Boeing actually wouldn't say where this particular jet was going, but our flight tracker shows it flew out above the Atlantic and then headed back to South Carolina.
That's it for me. I'm Brooke Baldwin here at the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta. Now to my friend, Wolf Blitzer. Your "SITUATION ROOM" starts right now.
BLITZER: Brooke, thanks very much.
