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Police Capture Luka Rocco Magnotta; Clinton, Obama Don't Always See Eye to Eye; Zuckerberg to Start Children's Facebook; Realty Show Hopes to Change Stereotype

Aired June 04, 2012 - 11:00   ET

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KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone, I'm Kyra Phillips. 11:00 o'clock on the East Coast, 8:00 o'clock out west. We've got breaking news right now. Word into CNN, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, CBC, is reporting that police have arrested that porn actor in that gruesome murder mystery.

We are talking about Luka Rocco Magnotta who is suspected of killing and dismembering a student and, as you may remember, mailing the body parts to Canadian police and politicians.

Paula Newton has been following this for us. She joins us now out of London. Paula, we talked all last week about the search for this man. Now, we are getting word he's been captured in Berlin?

PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: He might have been in Paris as late as yesterday and then obviously took a train to Berlin.

German police saying the person they have in custody, they do believe right now is Mr. Magnotta, but they are waiting for fingerprint tests to come back and confirm it. That's also what Canadian police have now said to me.

This man himself says he is the suspect. He says he is Luka Magnotta and they are just waiting to make sure that they get those fingerprint results.

He was caught in an Internet cafe and there had been some reports that they had seen some activity on his accounts. He apparently, Kyra, still had his own personal mobile phone on him.

And this is all in keeping with what Canadian authorities had told us, was they believed this guy, sooner or later, would give himself up, in a sense, because he wasn't doing a very good job of trying to cover his tracks.

PHILLIPS: Let's just bring viewers back to last week when you and I were talking about this case. It plays out like a slasher movie. It is absolutely chilling, the allegations against this man, and what he's done.

And he actually put things on the Internet that only helped police lead the investigation toward him and toward these gruesome acts, right? NEWTON: It was quite an Internet trail from the beginning. So, if we recap, according to Canadian police and this is what they have put certainly in their documents and their prosecution documents, that he had a person he was involved with, that he took that person back to the apartment, that he sexually assaulted him.

He then murdered him, is what the Canadian police allege, with an ice pick and then proceeded to dismember his body.

At least two of those body part were mailed to Canadian offices in the capitol in Ottawa. They were political offices. One of them actually arrived at its destination and the other was taken out of the mail.

At the same time, that video of that grizzly crime was put on the Internet. Police then had to work to try and take it down from the Internet. And many allegations now that police say that this was premeditated and that he did seem to be in some way shape or form acting out some type of a scene from a movie.

And then he continued in terms of disposing the body parts in a suitcase, the torso in the backyard of this apartment building. But then after that, police still confirming now that they do not have all of body parts back and are still searching for the victim's remains.

You know, all of this just sends chills up everyone's spine. Not only was he in Canada, but he got away within 24 hours. He had a five-day lead on police and, clearly, was in Paris suburbs and, in the end, some very trendy areas of Paris, going to cafes, at least one nightclub, and this is all from eyewitness reports.

Paris police not able to put together a complete picture, but definitely he was out there. He was not trying to hide.

PHILLIPS: And this is someone that didn't necessarily have a rap sheet of any kind, but he was tied to bizarre activity prior to this, right?

NEWTON: Very bizarre activity. He did have some run-ins with the law when it came to fraud, but beyond that, he allegedly -- and no one can prove this -- had been responsible for putting some very bizarre videos on the Internet having to do with animal cruelty, apparently tortured a kitten, had a live kitten fed to a python snake and posted that on the Internet.

That's what allegations are. Those hasn't been proven.

"The Sun" newspaper here in London started to investigate and, as soon as -- apparently, they claim Mr. Magnotta got a hold of this information that they were investigating, he shows up on their doorstep here in London and starts to deny it.

What is very clear in this entire process is that Mr. Magnotta was looking for fame. He was looking for notoriety. Whatever he did, he wanted people know about it. PHILLIPS: All right, we will continue to follow the case and, if indeed this is the man as police believe, they may have him. Paula, appreciate it so much.

We are also talking about the man who shot and killed a Florida teenager, Trayvon Martin. He is back behind bars and right now his attorneys are trying to get him back out.

We are talking about 28-year-old George Zimmerman. He surrendered to police on Sunday, just a few days after judge revoked his bond. Back at the initial hearing, Zimmerman and his wife said that they had limited fund to pay for the bond.

But now we since learned that website set up for donations for Zimmerman actually had collected more than $130,000 and prosecutors say the Zimmerman's blatantly lied about that.

The defense maintains it was an honest misunderstanding and it now appears to be a case of truth and consequences. CNN's Martin Savidge is in Sanford, Florida, following all the developments for us. Hey, Martin.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kyra.

Well there are going to be short-term consequences and then there could be potentially long-term consequences.

The short-term, of course, is that George Zimmerman has had his bond revoked and is back behind bars. He is waiting to find out if he gets the opportunity to have bond once more.

Then there are the long-term consequences and this is something that the attorney for Trayvon Martin's family has been talking about a lot since this all came it light and that is, if George Zimmerman may have not been telling the truth about how much money he had, what else is he not telling the truth about?

And keep in mind, this is, of course, a self-defense case in which there was only one survivor.

Here's Ben Crump earlier today.

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BEN CRUMP, TRAYVON MARTIN FAMILY ATTORNEY: His credibility is the main thing here because it is only his version of the facts that say Trayvon Martin attacked him.

All the objective evidence suggests that he pursued and shot Trayvon Martin in the heart and that is going to be a crucial, crucial issue, credibility, credibility, credibility.

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SAVIDGE: And even the defense attorney here, Mark O'Mara, admits that his client now will have to do some fence-mending when it comes to that very issue of credibility, Kyra.

PHILLIPS: How long could Zimmerman stay behind bars?

SAVIDGE: That is a good question. We expect that the motion will be filed today on the part of the defense attorney. The judge, though, is, we're told, not in town, so it could be a while.

The judge may want Mr. Zimmerman to think about it for a while before he calls him in front of him. So we're not quite clear on exactly when this next hearing could take place, perhaps this week, maybe next.

PHILLIPS: All right. We will follow it. Martin Savidge in Sanford, Florida. Martin, thanks.

And more details are emerging about the final moments before this plane crashed into a neighborhood in Lagos, Nigeria. The pilot was American, radioed in that the plane was having trouble just minutes before this.

All 153 passengers aboard were killed at least 10 people on the ground, but officials say the death toll could rise as rescue crews search through the wreckage.

The airplane was purchased from Alaska Airlines 22 years ago. A team of Boeing engineers is currently on the way to Nigeria to investigate this crash.

And this crash on the Utah/Nevada border killed two pilots who were trying to fight a wildfire. It happened yesterday while the plane and crew were on their second pass of the day carrying 2,000 gallons of water and fire suppressant and almost as much fuel.

And check out this near accident. This is also in Nevada. The fire-fighting tanker made an emergency landing minus its left side wheels. No one was hurt that we know of and the plane held up pretty well, too, considering it's 55 years old.

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PHILLIPS: Well, in London, the royal pomp-and-pageantry are on full display, the sights and sound of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee filling the city.

Now, this was the stunning scene on the Thames River on Sunday. Waves of red, white, and blue. One thousand vessels making up a seven-mile long flotilla, just the start to all of the regal festivities to honor Queen Elizabeth and her 60 years on the British throne.

Right now, the world's biggest pop stars, Paul McCartney, Elton John, Stevie wonder, all getting ready to perform for the Queen with Buckingham Palace as the background and Katie Nicholl, the royal editor of "The Mail on Sunday" and all things royals, she always has the scoop and we have her on the phone. She is actually getting ready to attend the concert. Katie, tell us about it. KATIE NICHOLL, ROYAL EDITOR, "THE MAIL ON SUNDAY": As you say, Kyra, just getting ready to go down to the palace now. All of the streets leading down to the Mall are shut off.

I don't know if you have seen the television pictures, but it is quite extraordinary in front of the Queen Victoria on the Mall is the biggest stage you have ever seen and there are going to be the biggest stars gracing that stage this evening, everyone from Kylie to Elton John, Cliff Richard, all of those great and good names that would you expect.

And the grand finale will be the band, Madness, who are going to be singing from the roof, not the stage, but the roof of Buckingham Palace. Again something we have never witnessed before.

The Queen will be there, the Duke of Edinburgh. We understand they won't stay for the whole of the concert. They have had a very intensive schedule, but the young royals, William, Kate, and Harry ill be there in full force, bopping away at the palace.

PHILLIPS: Katie, what's the inside scoop? All of these performers, all of these amazing musicians that we love, of course, here in the states, does the queen possibly favor one or the over?

NICHOLL: Well I think if you look at the lineup, you will see that although you have a couple of modern acts -- well, more than a couple of modern acts. You've got JLS, you've got Jessie J, you've got Kylie in there.

And you've also got the golden oldies. You've got Sir Cliff Richard. You've got Paul McCartney. I think if there is an indication of the Queen's musical taste, you will probably look at that.

There will be a bit of classical in there. There will be a bit of musical theater. And the point of this Jubilee and these weekend- long celebrations is that they are there to accommodate everyone.

One of the things that stood out to me yesterday down on the river with Piers and Brooke was just how eclectic the crowd was. They weren't all old and they weren't all young. There was a mixture of all of them and that's what's made it so very, very special and brought Britain together.

PHILLIPS: It's quite a remarkable celebration. We will continue to follow it throughout the day. Katie, thanks so much for calling in.

As we mentioned, the celebrations will continue on CNN all the way to tomorrow morning. Piers and Brooke will be live from the royal extravaganza starting at 9:00 a.m. Eastern on Tuesday.

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PHILLIPS: We're going in-depth this morning on Wisconsin, the much anticipated recall election takes place tomorrow. When Governor Scott Walker supported the controversial law that stripped collected bargaining rights for the state government workers, his critics demanded the recall.

It was seen by some as a major anti-union measure and a possible blueprint for other states. Millions of dollars have been funneled into the state on both sides, much of it being spent on campaign ads.

CNN's Tom Foreman joining us now from Washington. Tom, you've been looking into who's been playing fast and loose with the facts in those ads.

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: As you know, Kyra, in these interesting times, it is everybody. That's the way it goes.

The reason this is important is what you just mentioned there. People all over the country are looking at this as possibly sort of a referendum on approaches to government. How do you deal with union, how do you deal with cost, taxation, all of those things, that's what they are looking at.

Let's take a look at one of the things that happened here. As Tom Barrett, the mayor of Milwaukee, went after Governor Scott Walker specifically on this notion of an abysmal jobs report. Look at this ad.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Scott Walker promised.

GOVERNOR SCOTT WALKER (R), WISCONSIN: 250,000 new jobs.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Scott Walker delivered -- nothing.

In fact, last year Wisconsin lost more jobs than any state in the country.

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FOREMAN: So can that really be true? Is that possible that he could actually promise all of that 250,000 jobs? Yes, he did, during the campaign.

Now, to be honest, he said it would be by 2015, so that's a bit down the road, a little misleading, but let's put that aside for the moment because the bigger questions here.

Did he really deliver nothing? And did they he really lose more jobs than any other state? That is true if you look at this number called the Current Employment Statistics Report for last year. These are sort of small samples of a relatively limited number of businesses and when you added them all up for 2011, in fact, 34,000 jobs were lost in that state, so in that regard, that was the worst in the nation.

But -- and this really matters -- we talked to the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, who works with the Bureau of Labor Statistics here in Washington, D.C., and they said, yes, that was true.

However, there is now an updated set of numbers from what's called the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages which is considered much more accurate and comprehensive than the previous numbers and this report shows 24,000 jobs were actually gained last year in the state.

So what we're going to say about this is this actually was a true ad when it was made, but now this claim about the governor is flat out false. Kyra?

PHILLIPS: What about what the government is saying about his opponent?

FOREMAN: Oh, well, you know, that always goes both ways, doesn't it? Let me just pull this back and talk to you abut that for a minute because there is another question here.

The governor loves the idea, as all politicians do of an opponent who's wasting taxpayers' money and he went after the mayor of Milwaukee on that. Look at this ad.

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WALKER: Tom Barrett want to spend more than $100 million on a trolley for Milwaukee. Now, that's the kind of reckless spending that left Wisconsin with more than a $3 billion deficit.

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FOREMAN: Wow, a hundred million for a trolley. That sounds like a lot, doesn't it? It is a lot if you just take it at face-value.

But the thing is, if you talk to the city and the people in the city who actually manage this project, they said this was started back in early 1990s and, of the money that is going to be spent right now, the phase one of which starts this fall, is about $65 million, not a hundred million, and $55 million of that comes from the federal government, not from local taxpayers at all.

There is another phase which would be another $30 million or so, but taxpayers might be on the hook here for $10 million, maybe $20 million, overall.

So the governor can certainly call that reckless spending if he wishes, but to suggest that his opponent is putting taxpayers there on the hook for $100 million, that is flat out false again.

I will say this, Kyra. The simple truth is that these are just two ads of many in a very, very heated race and there are a lot of accusations thrown around. Maybe that, too, is a precursor to what we will see in the national election this fall.

PHILLIPS: Politics as usual. Tom Foreman, thank you so much.

The two candidates have raised around $4 million for their campaigns. A big percentage of that money is actually come from outside the state, too, highlighting how important this race is for both parties.

Well, Bill Clinton or Chuck Norris? Yes, the martial arts expert and actor would easily win in a fight, but in the political arena, he has his hands full. Clinton was in Wisconsin last week, you may remember, to support the Democrat, Tom Barrett.

That led Norris to jump in on Governor Scott Walker's side. Now, he is not coming to Wisconsin to campaign. Instead he made his plea in an on-line column

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PHILLIPS: Police arrest a suspected gunman who allegedly opened fire at a Toronto mall this weekend, killing one person and injuring seven others. Toronto police tweeted that they made an arrest and will release more details about the suspect at a news conference in about two hours.

Meanwhile, detectives have also identified the victim who was killed as 24-year-old Ahmed Hassan. Police believe the shooting was targeted and the victim may have had some gang affiliation.

He is accused of sexually assaulting young boys and faces 52 counts of molestation. Now, the day his accusers have been waiting for is here. Jury selection in the child sex abuse trial against former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky starts tomorrow.

CNN's Susan Candiotti has a look at the trial and his case.

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SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was a riveting moment. Ten days after Jerry Sandusky was arrested on dozens of charges that he raped, sodomized and fondled young boys, he called NBC's Bob Costas. The former Penn State assistant coach denied being a pedophile and then this.

BOB COSTAS, NBC, "ROCK CENTER": Are you sexually attracted to underage boys?

JERRY SANDUSKY, FORMER PENN STATE FOOTBALL COACH: Am I sexually attracted to underage boys?

COSTAS: Yes.

SANDUSKY: Sexually attracted? No, I enjoy young people. I love to be around them, but no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys.

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: I think that there was an intention by his defense attorney, Amendola, to humanize him, to establish that he is sort of an uncle who kind of likes boys, but not in a sexual way, in sort after healthy normal way and I think that interview backfired. CANDIOTTI: The case poured shock and outrage on campus and, when the university fired head coach Joe Paterno, who has since died, it set off this raucous clash.

There are 10 alleged victims who were as young as ten years old. For now, none has been publicly named. Prosecutors don't know the identities of two of them.

Now, it is time for Sandusky's accusers to take the witness stand. The defense prepared to attack their credibility.

CALLAN: Any humiliating and embarrassing experience in their past life that has bearing on their believability potentially may be revealed to all the world this trial.

CANDIOTTI: Also expected to testify, a key witness to one of the alleged rapes, Penn State assistant coach Mike McQueary, then a graduate student, who says he saw Sandusky in a locker room shower one night with a young boy.

Prosecutors say Sandusky met his alleged victims through his charity for disadvantaged children, The Second Mile.

Sandusky has pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him. Will he take the stand to defend himself? And what else might be revealed at trial?

A recent defense motion raises the possibility prosecutors may bring up other allegations of abuse to help establish a pattern.

Sandusky's lawyers have lost several attempts to delay the start of the trial. As for the alleged victims, they're anxious, their lawyers say, but ready to go forward.

Susan Candiotti, CNN, New York.

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PHILLIPS: And again jury selection is expected to start tomorrow.

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PHILLIPS: We are just learning that police captured a porn actor for a gruesome murder mystery out of Canada. German police said they arrested this guy, Luka Rocco Magnotta, who is suspected of killing and dismembering a student, then mailing the body parts to police and politicians. He was in Berlin, Germany, thousands of miles from the scene of his alleged crime.

Let's get straight to Diana Magnay. She has been working sources and talking to the police.

Diana, tell us how it went down.

DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Well, I spoke to the police. They say they believe this man is Luka Rocco Magnotta, he admitted that it is him but they are just waiting to get the fingerprints match up. What happened is he was in an Internet cafe, came in this morning at about 11:30. I was just speaking to one of the workers at the cafe, sat down at the computer and started looking at web sites, detailing what he had in fact done. And the owner looked at him and recognized him from a newspaper there, which also had his picture in it, his photograph. Then realized this man is the man that INTERPOL was looking for. And they raised the alert internationally for him. Police came and he gave himself up without a fight. He is in police custody. He admitted he is the man police are looking for. They are still waiting for fingerprint confirmation.

PHILLIPS: Diana, where do we know he has been traveling? He went from can do it France, then to Germany. Do we know what his routine was? Any details of where he had been and what he had been doing to this point?

MAGNAY: Not so far. We know from French media report really, he was site sighted in Paris and police were able to track him because of his cell phone. There was also a photograph taken of him in a Paris airport. But police weren't able to sort of track him down before this flight from Berlin. A short flight from Paris to Berlin. But it is not entirely clear when he left Canada, what his movement were, who he was staying with in these various places. But police have said all the way down the line that this is a man who is really desperate for attention, you know. That fact that he released a video, posted a video on-line with the horror of with which he dismembered this man and performed sexual acts on this video led police to believe this was a man who wanted attention brought to his every move, which would really be his down fall in the end, that it wouldn't be long before the police were able to track him down. And that actually does seem to have been the case, given the fact he was looking at his own story in the Internet cafe when the worker recognized him.

PHILLIPS: Diana Magnay working her sources on this story for us and calling in.

Diana, thanks so much.

I think three words can describe the scene in the United Kingdom right now. Royal pomp and pageantry. And speaking of pageantry, this was the seven mile pageantry on the Thames River yesterday. But the party is just getting started. Today is day two of the queen's jubilee celebration answers the excitement of course is building as the biggest pop stars are getting ready to take the stage just outside Buckingham Palace. The queen will light the international beacon. The last of the beacons lit across the common wealth and other countries from Australia to Kenya to the Shetland Islands. The queen will light it tonight. Piers and Brooke will bring you the extravaganza live starting at 9 a.m. eastern.

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PHILLIPS: Well, it's no secret that Bill Clinton will be important in Obama's reelection bid. It is also no secret they don't always see eye to eye. And that can cause issues. CNN White House correspondent, Brianna Keilar has more.

Brianna, they really moved past the bad blood of 2008?

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Kyra, I know it might be surprising but sources say they actually have. Would you call them best friends? No, I don't think you would go that far. But certainly Bill Clinton want to see Barack Obama re-elected and the Obama campaign is making Bill Clinton one of the most visible surrogates. That said, they're not always on the same page. As you can see from just last week.

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KEILAR: As President Obama's campaign tries to make a liability of Romney's experience of a private equity firm, Bill Clinton on "Piers Morgan tonight," didn't get the memo.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: In terms of getting up, going to the office, basically performing the essential functions of the office, a man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold.

KEILAR: On the same team as Obama, but reading from a different play book. Bill Clinton's support is key to the president this election, though their relationship, to put it mildly, had its ups and downs. In 2007, Bill Clinton took aim at then junior Senator from Illinois.

CLINTON: I'm old-fashioned. I think a president ought to have done nothing for other people and for his country, when you pick a president.

KEILAR: Clinton mentioned Obama's inexperience.

CLINTON: When is the last time we elected in president based on one year of service in Senate before he started running?

KEILAR: In early 2008, Obama won Iowa and entered an all-out feud with the former first couple.

HILLARY CLINTON, (D), SECRETARY OF STATE & FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm here. He's not.

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes.

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KEILAR: The two men haven't been especially close. But appointing Hillary Clinton secretary of state helped heal wound. And Obama looked to the popular former president for help, hosting him at the White House during contentious negotiations with can Congress in 2010. CLINTON: I have a general rule, which is that, if whatever he asks me about my advice and whatever I say, should become public only if he decides to make it public. He can say whatever he want, but --

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KEILAR: Obama hopes President Clinton can woo voters in the south and some Rust Belt states. The Obama campaign is featuring Clinton an ad and hitting up his network of wealthy donors. Obama and Clinton appeared at fund-raiser together last month at long-time Clinton supporter, Terry McAuliffe (ph), raising $2.1 million.

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KEILAR: Now that night, Kyra, President Obama joked that donors were getting two presidents for the price of one. And that's going to happen again tonight. President Clinton and President Obama headlining three fundraisers in New York City tonight. One at a private residence. One at a hotel. And one at a Broadway theater. And of course, they are expected to bring in millions of dollars for the DNC and president's re-elect.

PHILLIPS: It usually does. What exactly is Bill Clinton's role in the ere election campaign.

KEILAR: The question is almost, what isn't his role, Kyra. He is really front and center in a number of different ways. You see he is there in ad. Key it fundraising as we see tonight and key to messaging. He's making a lot of TV appearances, for instance, and he will continue to do that. He will physically go to a number of battle ground states. To target these demos that Obama struggles with. And his message, Kyra, is this, I know about the economy and President Obama is doing the right job and the Obama campaign is hoping, of course, that voters believe that.

PHILLIPS: All right, Brianna, thanks so much.

Comedian Bill Maher is now part owner of the New York Mets. He is not just saying -- well, he is not exactly saying how much of the team he actually purchased or how much he spent but we do know that the Mets sold 12 shares in the team at $20 million a pop. He needed to raise the $240 million to offset losses and penalties associated with their investments in the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme. They didn't take a dime.

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Facebook claims to have 900 million users. Do you really think all of them are 13 and over? Neither does Facebook. It is estimated millions of children lie about their ages to set up pages, often with help from their parent. Now the "Wall Street Journal" says that king of social media is working on a kid-friendly Facebook. Maybe linking kids pages to their parent with built in parental controls and maybe it could tap a whole new revenue stream in the process.

Now we're talking with Ben Mezrich. He is the author of "Accidental Millionaires," which inspired the hit movie, "The Social Network." He is joining me from Boston.

Ben, great to see you.

BEN MEZRICH, AUTHOR: Thanks for having me.

PHILLIPS: Let's get down to the main question here. It is obvious that Facebook is dropped in value, has dropped in value, since all this hoopla. There is an ongoing investigation. When it comes down to it, what do you think, is this all about money?

MEZRICH: Over all, I don't think it is all about money. I think it is about getting everyone on Facebook. I think Zuckerberg's goal is that every human beg on planet earth will be on Facebook most of the day. And I think starting at 13 and 12 and 11 is a good way it makes that happen.

I don't think it is all about money. I don't think he cares that much about money. I think he cares about everyone being on Facebook.

PHILLIPS: Does Facebook care whether its users are 13, 47 or 6?

MEZRICH: No, they don't care at all. I'm waiting for the toddler Facebook so my 2-year-old can go on it.

PHILLIPS: Oh, Ben!

MEZRICH: I think they just want as many followers as they can get.

PHILLIPS: You really would -- would you put your toddler on Facebook?

MEZRICH: Well, you know, he is watching "Mickey Mouse Club" all the time. Could couldn't be much worse than that, could it? Obviously, it is a good thing for kids to be spending a lot of time on Facebook. But on the other hand, with parental super vision, I think it is no worse than anything else a kid does. So no, I don't want my kid on Facebook before I know what is going on with it. But kids today are more technologically advanced than adult. 10-year-olds are amazing on computers, and I think that's the future.

PHILLIPS: Doesn't Facebook have its hand full protecting adult and privacy without adding kids to the mix?

MEZRICH: Parents have to take a big part in this. Facebook wants people to share everything. That's their business model. They want all of your information. They want privacy walls to go away. They are fighting themselves when they have to put restraint on privacy. And it is a scary thought, but their goal is that everyone is on Facebook all the time.

PHILLIPS: So I'm curious, what's your take on the IPO? And did you buy in?

MEZRICH: I didn't buy in. I'm a horrible investor. You know, it was a mess, a total and complete mess. I don't think anybody expected it. I definitely don't think the Facebook people wanted to see something like this happen. But a lot of people probably lost a lot of money. And the NASDAQ looks horrible. It was a total mess.

PHILLIPS: Do you think we will still talk about Facebook five years from now, 20 years from now?

MEZRICH: I think we will. I personally think Facebook will continue to be a part of our lives indefinitely. It is just too big. And it is just a matter of how it moves to the telephones, because the cell phone is the future of everything. If Facebook can figure out a way to dominate that, then we will talk about Facebook forever.

PHILLIPS: Do you think we've just lost the art of letter writing and picking up the phone an making a call in regard to communicating with those we love?

MEZRICH: It's true. In college, if you wanted to meet a girl you had to go and say hi to her. Now it is all on Facebook. We lost our inability of inaction. I think that's what he wants. He doesn't have the facilities to work at a human level so he created a way to react on a computer level.

PHILLIPS: As you look forward to that, that philosophy, right, you talk about what was in his head and what he created and what has become so big. As you look down the line, and as it's interesting, I was reading a number of surveys in the past week, there were a number of articles on the surveys done about Internet disconnect anxiety. And that that's the fear that our kids, your child, my kids, will face down the road.

MEZRICH: Yes, it is going to be a totally different world. And the idea of sort of meeting people in person will go away slowly. I think we are definitely going to lose something. We become more isolated. On the other hand, it is not something you can fight against. That's the future we're developing. And it is just a matter of keeping it as positive as we can.

PHILLIPS: So to be your next book?

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MEZRICH: I mean, I don't even know what my next book is. There could be a sequel I think to "The Social Network" with what's going on now, but I don't know. I do think the future is looking more and more like sci-fi novels from the '50s than ever before.

PHILLIPS: Do you think that -- while I have you, books, will those even be published do you think at some point? Is that just going to go away?

MEZRICH: It's a scary thought. I think the hard-cover book is a troubled creature. I don't know that there's a place for it, which is very sad. I mean, on the other hand, you know, the Kindle and these eReaders, they're pretty great. I use it myself. It's sad. We are losing something, but at the same time it's hard to ignore that these are better devices.

PHILLIPS: Ben Mezrich, it's always interesting talking to you. Sure appreciate you calling in.

MEZRICH: Thanks very much.

PHILLIPS: Or Skyping in rather.

Facebook did issue a statement saying that, "Many recent reports have highlighted just how difficult it is to enforce age restrictions on the Internet, especially when parents want their children to access online content and services. We are in continuous dialogue with stakeholders, regulators, and other policymakers about how best to help parents keep their kids safe in an evolving online environment."

Turning 21 marks the official age of freedom for many young adults, but for a Chicago man, it marks quite a different milestone. This week 21-year-old Sho Yana will become the youngest student in the history of University of Chicago to receive an M.D. Not a surprising feat when you hear his history though. He learned to read at age 2, began composing music at age 5, and entered Loyola University at age 9. He says finishing faster is all he has done his entire life. Check out what he said when he first entered college and how he reflects on everything today.

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SHO YANO, 21-YEAR OLD M.D.: I came to college to study, not to hang out with people or date.

If the pressure had been coming from anyone else, like my parents, I wouldn't have been able to keep going. You have to be driven by something that you want to do.

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PHILLIPS: And by the way, Sho, who also received his Phd, will begin his residency in pediatric neurology. Not bad.

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PHILLIPS: An update on a story we've been following throughout the morning. Police have captured that porn actor for the gruesome murder mystery we've been telling you out of Canada. German police apparently arrested Luka Rocco Magnotta, who is suspected of killing and dismembering a student and mailing the body parts to Canadian police and politicians. Police say they nabbed him at an Internet cafe in Berlin, Germany, thousands of miles from the scene of his alleged crimes. We're following the investigation and the arrest. Stay with CNN for more information.

Well, she was married to the mob, befuddled Batwoman as Cat Woman, and worked alongside some of the best leading men and married top movie producer, David E. Kelly. After decades in Tinsel Town, actress, Michelle Pfeiffer, has managed to stay the course. She sat down for a rare interview with our Sanjay Gupta as he filled in for "Piers Morgan" last night to talk about how she manages fame, fortune, and marriage.

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MICHELLE PFEIFFER, ACTRESS: I just feel like I cherish our marriage so much, and I have seen a lot of relationships in the past kind of be -- people who have been together for years and then they work together and then it's over and you're like what happened? And I feel like it's like I don't know church and state for me. I just sort of don't want to mix the two. I just sort of don't want to jinx it.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: The double standard that you hear about, is it real?

PFEIFFER: It is. Definitely, women have it harder for sure. But I think increasingly men are because we're such an age-obsessed society, youth-obsessed society, in terms of in the workplace. We're living longer and we want to work longer. And, you know -- and sometimes it doesn't matter if you're still at the top of your game, or you're fit and you look great for your age and you still have a lot to contribute, you know, there's somebody younger and newer and fresher.

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PHILLIPS: You can catch Michelle Pfeiffer's entire exclusive interview tonight. Sanjay Gupta filling in for "Piers Morgan" at 9:00 eastern.

With all the trash talk and cat fighting, many people would agree today's reality TV has become much ado about nothing. A new series hopes to change that stereotype. It's called "Push Girls." They want you to see their reality is one of strength and character.

Here is Kareen Wynter.

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UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Tone it down because I'm going to punch you in your face.

KAREEN WYNTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Whether it's female brawlers on "Basketball Wives"

KIM KARDASHIAN, ACTRESS: -- see all those clothes and --

WYNTER: -- or family feuds on "Keeping Up with the Kardashians," more often than not the women of reality TV are portrayed as a bad girls club.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Beyond limits.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: I push.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: Beyond what's expected.

WYNTER: But now there's some new ladies rolling onto the scene ready to take a stand with a different kind of reality.

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WYNTER: Meet Auti, Mia and Chelsie. They're dynamic, talented, and paralyzed.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: One more time.

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WYNTER: They're the "Push Girls."

(on camera): What is a push girl?

AUTI ANGEL, PUSH GIRL ACTRESS: Some people think it has to do with wheelchairs. It's pushing through your adversity, through your situation, and that goes for everybody.

WYNTER (on camera): The situations are real.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: There's a lot of bills flying my way.

WYNTER: From the economy and dating --

UNIDENTIFIED ACTRESS: He said he didn't want a girlfriend.

WYNTER: -- to starting a family.

ANGEL: Most people don't think I can have a baby.

WYNTER: With their lives under the microscope, we had to ask, was there anything the "Push Girls" pushed back on?

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MIA SCHAIKEWITZ, PUSH GIRL ACTRESS: Yes, my husband and I are working on having a baby, but, yes, you guys get to stay outside and you don't need to know how we're about to make that happen.

WYNTER: The bedroom aside, the girls admitted almost nothing is off-limits, an honest approach they hope will help change misconceptions in part of a movement in which disabled becomes differently abled.

SCHAIKEWITZ: People see us in wheelchairs and they think, wow, their biggest obstacle in life is their chair and we don't see it that way. Our biggest obstacle is conquering those misconceptions.

I love my freedom. That's the way I have been my whole life. If I say I have to get in the shower and I can see it on their face, they're like how does she shower? So just educating through doing. WYNTER: A 2009 study conducted by the Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation estimates 5.6 million Americans are living with paralysis. The organization calls the show a milestone, telling CNN, "Pop culture rarely features members of the paralysis and disability community. It is so refreshing and inspiring to be depicted on a network that will depict us accurately and with respect and optimism."

Meanwhile, The American Association of People with Disabilities hope the show starts a trend. "This should be a starting point and a challenge to more film and television producers to portray us."

The portrayals, while courageous, also reveal a vulnerable side.

CHELSIE HILL, PUSH GIRL ACTRESS: I really hope that people will look at other people in wheelchairs differently now. Meeting the girls was kind of like meeting big sisters. It was kind of like, wow, you know, I can be myself again.

AUTI: She is our confirmation that we are doing the right thing.

WYNTER: From education to inspiration, the "Push Girls" agree --

HILL: When you can't stand up, stand out.

WYNTER: Kareen Wynter, CNN, Hollywood.

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PHILLIPS: "Push Girls" debuts tonight on the Sundance Channel. Thanks for watching, everyone. You can continue the conversation with me on Twitter, @KyraCNN, or on Facebook. CNN NEWSROOM continues right now.