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Queen Elizabeth's Diamond Jubilee
Aired June 05, 2012 - 10:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Keep calm, carry on. How many 86-year-old women with their 90-year-old husband in hospital would be out her performing ceremonial duty as she is and looking like she's enjoying it or trying to.
This woman has an extraordinary stoicism. You saw it in the Second World War when she went back to work and stayed in the capital. Could have fled to somewhere much safer, but she stayed.
Ever since, that is the essence of the queen and indeed the queen mother when she was alive they just get on with it, don't you think?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I mean, they are absolutely (inaudible) and I think that's change. You know, I don't think we'll see her like again, actually. I think it's part of a whole generation, which puts aside personal feelings and indeed maybe goes so far as to deny personal feelings because they're doing a job.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: It's interesting you bring up the stiff upper le lip. I want to bring Richard Quest because Richard Quest, all article for cnn.com about how the Brits, you know, traditionally have this stoic sort of stiff upper lip thing going on.
He was saying in days and weekends like this, it's such a rarity to get to see such an outpouring of emotion among people in the U.K.
Richard, in all your years covering the royals, I know you camped out for Princess Diana's wedding, how does this fall on the historic spectrum?
RICHARD QUEST, HOST, CNNI'S "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS": It's way up there. Diana and Charles' wedding when I slept outside was one of those events, the queen mother's funeral and the royal wedding.
What it takes to rile the British (inaudible) out of the window is an event. It takes something to actually jolt the British into showing emotion, whether that be for good or for bad, whether it be the great or the minor.
But it does take something. And then, as we saw with Diana, as we're seeing today, once that emotion is released, Lord help anybody else who gets in the way of it.
PIERS MORGAN, CNN ANCHOR: Richard, you can see behind us now, we can feel the crowd beginning to advance. It really is a thrilling sight because some people don't understand what all the fuss is about.
But the reality is a million people marching up the mall to Buckingham Palace to see the queen is a big deal. The reason it's a big deal is it is one of the few great monarchies left in the world.
You're seeing the validation of that monarchy through the people who the monarchy served and the people of course served the monarchy. And it's a great union.
I believe the monarchy is stronger today, much stronger than it was 10 years ago. I see a real resurgence in the monarchy in this country and that is tangible.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree with you. I think what we see today and last year with the wedding was a real return in interest in them as a family and some people that one could really admire and enjoy watching.
But I still think that the danger that they are in is they are part of celebrity culture. And I think the moment something goes wrong or somebody does something wrong, we're going to see the fickleness of public taste.
MORGAN: You and I have worked in the British media for the last 20 years or so. The reality is I think the temperature has changed.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Listen, it's changed.
MORGAN: It's much less confrontational, much more celebrationary. This day, Camilla would be there, people would have --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People have had to change and modernize. I know what Philip was saying about celebrity. I see the risk of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge being built as big (inaudible) when they came to L.A. But actually the monarchy needs to embrace the new age. If it stays stagnant, it risks being left behind.
MORGAN: They've always been celebrities. The question is how do you behave?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Regally.
MORGAN: You behave exactly as the queen has. I think William and Kate have been exemplary in their behavior. I think now you're seeing a much more stable --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The queen has been a celebrity for 60 years.
BALDWIN: It helped us understand -- forgive me for coming from the United States -- we vote upon our presidents. This is someone who is above the law. She doesn't create or pass legislation. That's left for parliament. She is almost like this untouchable figure -- help me understand.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anointed.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has dedicated her entire life to her duty. There aren't many statesmen that can say that or prime ministers --
MORGAN: And the queen did nearly 400 engagements last year. She's an 86-year-old woman. Quite amazing. Let's take a break. We are moments away from the balcony scene. We are very close.
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MORGAN: You're watching live pictures here in London at Buckingham Palace. It's over seemingly excitement because the British (inaudible) have arrived at the palace and the balcony scene a few minutes away.
You know what? (Inaudible) be quite. This is not a day for you. This is a day for patriotic further and great British pride because this is what this country was built on and what we're all about.
BALDWIN: Waiting -- any minute now. Back in just a moment.
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MORGAN: There it is, the empty balcony. Any moment, it will fill up with the most famous people probably on the planet, the queen, Prince Charles, Camilla Parker-Bowles, Prince William, Prince Harry. Catherine will be there.
Penny, you've covered this family for a long time, as long as I have. What do you think of all this?
PENNY JUNOR, AUTHOR: I think it's just a great endorsement for the royal family, isn't it?
MORGAN: I feel like they've been energized to a new level again.
JUNOR: They have, they have. And this family are not here because they want to live in this lovely palace. They're here because we want them. And I think so often they must get disheartened by what they read, the criticism, they cost too much, they have --
MORGAN: It always enrages me. The royal family doesn't cost us anything. They bring in billions more from tourism and everything else. Half this crowd are probably from around the world. They don't cost us anything.
JUNOR: They cost us something like 68 pence per person per year.
MORGAN: I will pay it willingly. I'm fed up with the whiners and moaners.
BALDWIN: Penny, let me ask you this. I know you know Prince Charles. He spoke last night at that circle right behind us, of course, speaking -- getting the chants from the crowds that unfortunately his father is in the hospital, he's ill.
How difficult do you think it is for him to step up, speak on behalf of his mother and also now we see him today riding along in the carriage here to the palace and how difficult it is with obviously this lack today, missing Prince Philip?
JUNOR: I imagine they're all very worried about Prince Philip. But I don't think there's any difficulty in him stepping up. This man has been training all his life. He's now 63 years old and he's been preparing for this. No, he will do it really well when the time comes.
BALDWIN: A professional?
MORGAN: Yes. And it's going to be a very moving moment for the queen, even though she's done this a number of times. Even for her, the Diamond Jubilee, to get to this stage now is a really special accomplishment.
JUNOR: Incredible accomplishment. And I think there's a renewed energy there. I see a real twinkle in her eye, a spring in her step. And I think that's because of William.
BALDWIN: How so?
JUNOR: Well, I think in all the years of the Diana -- Charles and Diana marriage problems --
BALDWIN: It was a rocky '90s.
JUNOR: It was. And now she can see that William has totally got it. William went through years of wishing he didn't have the HRH trying to forget it. Saying to people, don't call me your highness. Just call me William. He's really embraced this --
MORGAN: I think the whole wedding for William was a tipping point for him. I think he realized then that his destiny to be king wouldn't be as gruesome as he feared it would be. And I think he found in Kate the right woman.
JUNOR: I totally agree. As soon as you have that team member with you -- that's what we see with the queen and Prince Philip. We're seeing that with William and Kate.
MORGAN: And she is fantastic. I think he found the bride who has got everything you could possibly want. I think she looks fabulous. Her behavior is exemplary.
BALDWIN: She's graceful.
MORGAN: But she had what Diana never had. She had eight years of practice, eight years behind the scenes to get used to all this. Diana was thrust into this as a 19-year-old girl, a kid.
I think it was all too much for her and too much for the family. This time around, you get a sense of. We've been down this path before. This time, mid-20s, much more --
JUNOR: She's also a much steadier character.
JUNOR: And she does her homework. She does her work.
BALDWIN: Absolutely. What does she have to do?
JUNOR: She does her homework before she goes to open a hospital, before she meets the president of somewhere, she reads up on it. She goes on the internet. They give her briefing notes. She's on the internet --
MORGAN: And also here's the big thing for women around the world, I believe when William and Kate have a child, even if the firstborn is a girl, she will be queen. And that is a shift.
BALDWIN: The act of succession --
MORGAN: It would have had to have been a boy. Now we can have a queen. If they have one child, it's a girl, she will be queen. That is a big step forward for everybody, I think.
JUNOR: Whoever is the oldest will be the next monarch. I think women are particularly well-adapted to doing the sort of work you have to do as a monarch.
MORGAN: There is a pattern of the queens being the stable ones here and the guys sitting down a bit.
JUNOR: Especially when you look at the monarchy we have now, which is very much nurturing and very much communicating and very much being a figurehead. We don't need anyone to lead any armies.
JUNOR: My godfather is not going to be happy with this conversation. He's going to make a very good king.
MORGAN: He's a much maligned character. I think Prince Charles is a great guy. And whenever I've met him, I found him charming, intelligent, self-aware and Camilla, talk about a great woman. You see, Charles was almost compelled to marry Princess Diana when his true love was Camilla Parker-Bowles.
BALDWIN: But it seems it's taken time for the public to evolve along with that line of thinking. And now to see him with Camilla in the carriage --
MORGAN: Here's the secret. Camilla never gives interviews.
JUNOR: There's that. But she's also incredibly charming. If you've met her, she manages to -- she sat alongside the queen today and she was obviously friendly, obviously warm, perfectly deferential. She never pushes herself in. She has a remarkable personal dignity.
MORGAN: You've interviewed many, many people around the royal family. The trick I think is less is more. The queen mother always had this wonderful phrase, never explain, never complain and never be heard speaking in public. This was her template.
This allowed her to basically have endless long lunches and nobody gave her stuff because she was the queen mother. She did what she had to do. The queen never gives interviews. I don't think that William and Kate should give many interviews. I think less is more.
JUNOR: I don't think they will. I think William is modelling himself on his grandmother.
MORGAN: Yes.
JUNOR: And he --
MORGAN: Keep the mystique alive.
JUNOR: And keep the personality at bay.
BALDWIN: Here's my question though because the queen has never and will never give a formal sit down interview. I do know she keeps a diary. Don't you just wonder what this queen will be writing at the end of all these days, what she writes in her diary --
MORGAN: And most of the world is watching CNN right now. Let's not rule out the interview just yet. I am available. You want an interview? I'm your man. I've lived here most of my life.
JUNOR: Who is the biographer around here?
MORGAN: You are.
JUNOR: Thank you. But those diaries are totally private. They will just be factual day-to-day events in her life. It will be much more factual about what needs attention and what she has done that day.
MORGAN: You've met the queen a few times. What is she really like, away from all this stuff?
JUNOR: Very witty. She's got an incredible wit and she's a brilliant imitator. The queen imitated the Fujian warriors, but with the most incredible amount of respect. She would never make fun of someone. She's just a very good imitator.
BALDWIN: Speaking of diary, you were reading your mother's diaries. Your mother was the queen's lady in waiting. She went with the princess to Kenya back in 1952 before she learned her father passing of lung cancer. Your mother wrote in her diary about Prince Philip what waking up in the middle of the night --
JUNOR: Yes, she said she had been waving in her sleep because she had done so much waving on the trip.
MORGAN: Imagine how many hands she's had to shake, millions.
BALDWIN: With the gloves. MORGAN: Plus the gloves. Here's another question. People have been tweeting me. What does she have in those handbags? Anything?
JUNOR: Yes, the essentials, the lipstick. A safety pin in case the slip ever fell. And there's the hook, a very famous hook that keeps the handbag up off the ground.
BALDWIN: An "s" hook.
JUNOR: It really is. And the handbags are designed to be very, very light with an extra long handle and it's on the arm for so many hours.
BALDWIN: I was reading her latest biography described her heels. She has the famous sort of square heels.
JUNOR: Sensible shoes.
BALDWIN: So that she can stand.
MORGAN: I heard she never eats spaghetti bolognese in public. The poor queen is never allowed -- and she's behind those doors. It's all pasta, bolognese behind those doors.
JUNOR: She was unrecognized on a far-off island in Australia. A boatload of people came out and saw them and they said, have you seen the queen? And she came out and said, I saw them go that way.
BALDWIN: The royals actually love when they're part of something huge and something goes wrong. Nothing horrible, but something out of the ordinary because everything is so perfectly planned and manicured and they love it when something goes a little awry.
JUNOR: My mother was in Nairobi, Kenya when the queen was there on a Royal visit and because it was a long way from England and you know, that's a long time ago.
There were only two pairs of long white gloves. All the ladies who were waiting to be presented -- the one in front had the white gloves on. She'd go forward, graciously and hand it to someone who was put the gloves on.
MORGAN: Just to remind everybody what's going on. We're waiting with breathless anticipation for the balcony scene where Queen Elizabeth will come out to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee with the immortal balcony scene.
They will be out soon. And the great news is the weather incredibly after all the forecasts has held up. Even the queen is susceptible to weather. But today it has turned out to be lucky. If it rains now, the British public won't give a damn.
BALDWIN: Look at those clouds.
MORGAN: It is raining now, but the public won't care. The royals are in the palace. They're safe. They'll be dry and the public won't care.
BALDWIN: The big blue blob, to quote you, moving in on London. but hopefully not before we see the queen and the royals.
MORGAN: Let's talk about the historical context of this. People I think have made a false assumption the queen may one day abdicate and rush through William and all this sort of thing. That's never going to happen, is it?
JUNOR: No, totally false assumption. It's not the way her monarchy work. It's, the king's dead, long live the king. The reigning monarch must die for the next one to inherit.
And you simply cannot go leap-frogging a character that you think is not going to be quite as popular as the next one. Once you start doing that, why stick with the House of Windsor?
And if you don't stick with the House of Windsor, you're into elections and then -- the great thing about the monarchy is it is a unifying factor in the country.
The minute you have politicians or -- and elections, half the country wants the person that's on the throne or the sitting president and the other half doesn't. So there's always discord. And the great thing about these is we have no choice.
MORGAN: The queen, I'm sure, has incredibly strong opinions about all sorts of stuff, but we never hear them. She's very nonpartisan when it comes to politics. It's important for the monarchy to remain there, isn't it?
BALDWIN: It's her duty.
MORGAN: We have a problem with your mic. We will come back to you when we have fixed it. Penny, on that historical front, it's very important, I think, that we don't allow the monarchy to get politicized.
JUNOR: Yes, I think it is. It would be unacceptable in today's climate. But the monarchy does have power. It has moral leadership. And I think that is what is -- William and Harry, the pair of them, are fantastic leaders.
MORGAN: My brother-in-law actually was one of the colonels in charge of training William and Harry at the Royal Military Academy. My sister used to have to welcome all the royals and the Middletons and everyone else.
But they said the boys were great soldiers and never wanted to be treated any differently than the others. They never asked for favor and never got any favor. They are very well-rounded young men. That's a great tribute to the royal family. They are so relatively normal.
JUNOR: Prince Charles because most boys of the age that they were would be absolutely thrown by the death of their mother and would carry it as a sorrow all their lives. And the boys have fond memories of their childhood, but they've managed to come through that.
MORGAN: Charles much maligned. After Diana died, those two boys in their teenage years must have been a horrible road -- I think we have movement.
BALDWIN: Any moment now, we are told, the doors will open.
MORGAN: This is a --
BALDWIN: Bursting at the seams of your British pride.
MORGAN: I hope I'm seeing a twitching hand.
BALDWIN: What do you think they've been doing these last few minutes? Kicking up their feet --
MORGAN: They've been watching CNN. Breaking live coverage around the world. I can definitely see something going on there.
JUNOR: My mother, who has spent a great deal of time with the queen and is very close to her, always says to know her is to admire her above all else. And I think that that today is --
MORGAN: I think that's right. The queen, I don't think, wants everyone to love her. She wants them to respect her and respect the monarchy for what it provides.
JUNOR: I'm not sure that she wants them to respect her. I think it's the office.
BALDWIN: The doors opened.
MORGAN: There's the queen. The queen is coming out on the balcony. This is a great moment.
BALDWIN: Look at her. Alone at first. Wow.
JUNOR: You see the crowds' heads will turn.
BALDWIN: Here we come. Watch out for the fly-past, the Royal Air Force fly-past, right there, coming into the palace.
MORGAN: You're going to see the Royal Air Force. This will be pretty spectacular. They're going for it. The queen will get her flyby. This will be quite something.
BALDWIN: Did you see that, the red, white and blue above? That is what really made her smile.
MORGAN: We had Spitfires and Hurricanes and all sorts of stuff flying over us. It made my spine chill.
BALDWIN: I got goose bumps.
MORGAN: I'm so pleased for the queen. The flyby is such an important part of these events. Fantastic scenes there as her majesty, the queen, took the salute of millions of her subjects outside the palace on Buckingham Palace. Penny, what a moment. What a moment. And such a streamlined moment.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My spine is tingling.
MORGAN: Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, Harry.
BALDWIN: Flanked by her boys.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, flanked by her boys. And the women in their lives.
BALDWIN: And the women in their lives.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who are very important to them actually. And I think she recognizes that more than anyone.
MORGAN: India, what did you think? Gut reaction to what we just saw?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Immense pride to be sitting here and so close and feeling very blessed.
MORGAN: It was emotional, wasn't it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Very, very emotional. Imagine how she feels. How many times she's been on that balcony and she must be missing her mother and her sister but more so Prince Philip.
MORGAN: She looked really moved to me, Philip. She looked to me like she just took a moment because she was slightly overwhelmed by the whole thing, which I haven't seen before.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's going to be one of the key moments of her entire reign. She's had some great moments on that balcony. There was a big crowd out in the rain just for her. It wasn't anything else, it was just to say hello to her.
MORGAN: And the crowd were going bananas, weren't they?
BALDWIN: In 30 seconds, William -- I have to wonder what William standing up there is thinking.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he's feeling huge pride for his grandmother. He admires her enormously. He's the future.
BALDWIN: One day it's him.
MORGAN: It's take another look at the flyby. It was very quick but incredibly dramatic, really wonderful to watch. The Spitfires, Hurricanes, the Red Devils, it was a real tour de force. I'm so glad they got to do this. This morning, it didn't look good with the conditions. But this is terrific. Look at that. I wish I was king. On that note, here's another short break.
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MORGAN: Welcome back to Buckingham Palace in London. The queen celebrating her diamond jubilee and the great finale there of the balcony scene with a streamlined reflection of the very greatest of the royals right there. Really moving, touching scene. And the public behind us still here soldiering on through a bit of rain, not much. But the queen look really touched. Mark, what did you make of what we've just seen?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My wife is Russian. And she said, there is no country on earth that could do this other than the British. And everything's changed for me now. I never used to -- these things used to go over my head when I was younger. Used to report on these things. They were fantastic spectacles but I never appreciated the significance.
MORGAN: We have Becky Anderson somewhere in this huge, swirling mass of people on the mall. Becky, can you hear us?
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I do hear you. The Scots guard are riding from the Buckingham Palace. You see the gate here. We ran down with the crowds here. We've all been waiting. It's getting a little bit loud but nobody cares, do they? What did you enjoy most about the day?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I enjoyed meeting the queen.
ANDERSON: No, you didn't. You saw her on the balcony, didn't you? I don't think our microphones are working particularly well. But I know that everybody here has absolutely enjoyed themselves tremendously. Come and join me, my love. This lady has come all the way from Perth. Back to you, Piers.
MORGAN: Thanks, Becky. A little noise going on here. There's another band marching past us. It's so thrilling to be close to it all. We'll take a short break and be back with more.
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BALDWIN: And we're back here live. And the people that gathered here on the mall to see the queen and the royals are beginning to leave in the drizzle that is London. That's (INAUDIBLE) the summer here. And we just wanted to go quickly to some of our correspondents who have covering the royals for years, beginning with Richard Quest.
Richard, what did you make of today, Richard? It's beyond historic, it seems.
QUEST: I am drenched once again, and I couldn't care less. When those planes came overhead, the mood here in Trafalgar Square was phenomenal. It was as good as the golden jubilee and, frankly, it was one of those days that remind me why I am proud to be British. But also to look forward now to welcoming the world to London for the Olympics next month. We've proved we can do it. Bring them on!
(LAUGHTER) MORGAN: Fantastic stuff, Richard Quest. Zane, you're alive?
ZANE VERJEE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I know.
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VERJEE: It was unbelievable. Thank you.
I mean, one of the things that strikes me the most is kind of the whole poetry of the last four days. The queen had the aquatic adventure on the (INAUDIBLE). The only person that was missing was Noah and his ark, you know? And then back on terra firma with the horses and the carriages. And really, one of the most recent polls basically said that the queen is one of the most favorite monarchs over Queen Victoria, over Henry the VIII, Henry V, Elizabeth I. So, it was pretty amazing to watch.
MORGAN: Max, you've been so very -
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FOSTER: Being modest here. Turn around, Piers.
Oh! There you go. A double whammy!
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FOSTER: They've got Piers Morgan as well.
BALDWIN: Just want to keep piers in check.
MORGAN: I told you I wanted to be king! I'm halfway there.
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BALDWIN: Max, what did you think of this?
FOSTER: Well, I have to say, it's interesting how you talked about how slimmed-down that balcony moment -- I had a big briefing recently with the palace and talked about how William and Harry. They look ahead, they look at themselves as a team and Kate as a team because they know in future, it's not going to be this huge, massive royal family. They're going to be the core of it. And they need to work together as a team. And I think for those two up there, a big moment for them to look out knowing it's just them there.
MORGAN: For anybody who hasn't watched all the coverage today, tonight on my show, "PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT," 9:00 p.m. Eastern, we'll have a whole wrap-up of the best moments. It will be quite a spectacular thing if you haven't seen it. Or if you have seen it and you want to relive it. Because it's been -- Brooke Baldwin, it's been --
BALDWIN: Here. Thank you sir. MORGAN: Brooke Baldwin, the new queen of CNN. It's been a special few days.
BALDWIN: It's taken me a few days to wrap my head around ALL these millions of people coming out in the rain in horrid conditions to see this woman who's been the head of the state for 60 years --
MORGAN: We should salute these people.
FOSTER: Oh, don't turn around again!
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MORGAN: These people - these people are what makes Britain what it is today. They are through rain or shine, the greatest people in the world.
BALDWIN: We're going to break. We're going to break. We'll be right back.
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BALDWIN: Welcome back to Buckingham Palace. Final thoughts here. But a couple of updates. One is that Prince Edward has been to see the Duke of Edinburgh. But great news, Prince Philip is feeling much better, he says, and has been watching the jubilee celebrations on television, almost certainly CNN.
And the second thing I have for you is that President Obama has made a statement saying, "The queen has set an example of resolve that will long be celebrated."
Becky Anderson, final thoughts -
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Thank you very much. Indeed, I started in the rain on Sunday as did Max. We finished in the rain on this Tuesday. But I think it's been a roaring success. It's been fantastic. Down in the crowds this afternoon, just jubilant.
MORGAN: I think it really has been. We've come here to celebrate here for four days. It couldn't have gone better for the royal family. And even if you're a little bit hard-hearted, a bit cynical, you look up and you see a sea of great people -
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
BALDWIN: Listen to these people!
FOSTER: Stop turning around, Piers Morgan! You're driving the sound man crazy!
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MORGAN: And they love their queen.
FOSTER: They built on last year, haven't they? They built on the wedding, they've reaffirmed themselves. The queen at the center of the monarchy. The monarchy is strong now, not just the characters within it.
MORGAN: Absolutely right. And Zain, last thoughts?
VERJEE: I think this has really been a moment for the British people to come together to celebrate in a time of war, recession and deficit. The queen has become a real symbol that gives everyone hope.
BALDWIN: And now a look back. Thank you all for having me, by the way. And now a look back really at just what the day has been, this diamond jubilee.
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MORGAN: Let's just leave it like that!
BALDWIN: Here you go!
MORGAN: Thanks for joining us.
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