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Aired June 09, 2012 - 19:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon. Thanks for watching. Thanks for joining us.
We're going to start with a story we admit is hard to watch. It involves a man hitting a little boy with a belt, but it raises some very important questions about being a dad, about being a nosey neighbor and certainly about fair punishment.
CNN's Nick Valencia has more now -- Nick.
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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A local official in California is free on bond this weekend after being charged with felony child abuse. Video of Imperial Valley official Anthony Sanchez allegedly shows him repeatedly hitting his 10-year-old stepson with a belt during a game of catch in their backyard. A neighbor who shot the video alerted police and after they viewed the pictures, charged Sanchez with a felony.
Sanchez's attorney told CNN his client posted a $100,000 bond on Friday, shortly after turning himself in, he was released from Imperial County jail.
The attorney Ryan Childers tells CNN that the video is, quote, "hard to watch", but he says he does not agree his client's actions warranted the felony charge, which is the most serious child abuse charge available to law enforcement. He called Sanchez, quote, "a model citizen who has served nearly two terms as the elected director of the influential agency that regulates irrigation in California's Imperial Valley."
CNN's San Diego affiliates said Sanchez is also a little league and soccer coach. The felony abuse charge carries a maximum sentence of six years in state prison. The district attorney says he will review the charge. Sanchez has not yet entered a plea -- Don.
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LEMON: All right, Nick. Thank you very much.
Interestingly enough, this comes just a week out from Father's Day. Let's talk about behavior and discipline now with an expert, Wendy Walsh, a psychologist. You probably recognize her from -- co-hosts "The Doctors". We watch it all the time. She talks about these particular issues as well.
So, listen, I have been saying that there is a distinction between beating and whipping, but in this case, you say it is obvious to you what's going on here?
WENDY WALSH, PSYCHOLOGIST: It's obvious to me that this doesn't even comply with the law that says well, spanking with an open hand on the buttocks is legal in like 50 states. It gets gray area when you're talking about using a belt or a whip. The question is, is it necessary and is it excessive?
OK. Was the kid misbehaving or having trouble catching a ball? Did you really think it would help his catch if you hit him? OK. So, that's the first thing, is it necessary?
And how excessive? I think using any kind of weapon on a child is excessive. What disturbs me most is the term "stepfather", because in this country a child living in the home with a non-biological male, mommy's boyfriend or husband, has 11 times the risk of abuse. So this is the piece that bothers me.
LEMON: It's old school thinking in this country, Dr. Wendy, to think that -- corporal punishment. Many people still believe that it works. Any indication -- and this appears to be corporal punishment, if not beyond. Any instance where corporal punishment is OK?
WALSH: It sometimes does work depending on the child. And I don't endorse it and would never suggest it. But it's those studies that come out and the studies that show it can also be very dangerous and cause a lot of emotional injury on a child.
The truth is, Don, there's so many other ways to discipline a child. Why do you need to hit them? You just take away their iPod or their Internet. It's so easy to discipline a child nowadays, especially the ones that are addicted to tech.
There's no reason. You know, my favorite saying from the grandfather of psychology Sigmund Freud once said, the first man to hurl a word instead of a stone had evolved. So come on, people, let's evolve, use our brains and think of other ways to discipline children.
LEMON: This video certainly creating quite a stir. Thank you, Dr. Wendy, we appreciate it.
Attorney General Eric holder has appointed two need lead investigators to help the FBI get to the bottom of the intelligence leak to the media. Leaked information has included classified details of a cyber attack aimed at Iran and classified information on the U.S. drone program.
Today in Syria, more street fighting, more shelling, more death. This is the city of Homs. Heavy artillery exploding in residential neighborhoods. Witnesses say Syrian forces shelled a mosque and a church. At least 26 people reported killed, including the mayor of this neighborhood. Across the country, we are told at least 96 people were killed in street fighting and artillery fire. There was even a street clash in the center of Damascus where rebels reportedly killed 17 troops loyal to President Bashar al-Assad.
Four French troops were killed today by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan. The Taliban are claiming responsibility. Eighty-seven French troops have died there over the last decade. The new president says his plan to bring home combat forces by year's end will start next month.
It is the biggest news in Europe today, with serious implications here in the U.S. The European Union agrees to bail out the banks in Spain. It is a drastic measure that economists hope will prevent complete economic chaos for America's biggest trading partner.
CNN's Nina dos Santos is in Madrid for us.
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NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Don, after fraught hours on the telephone, the 17 finance ministers of the countries that use the euros, their common currency finally convinced Spain that at some point it will have to ask for financial assistance to bail out its banks. Although Spain has been very reluctant to pitch this as a full on bailout for the country, they have said they're going to be taking the money through their sovereign books and they're putting it into the banking sector to beef it up.
At the moment, Spain hasn't actually asked for the money, but what the eurozone finance ministers have done is put aside a maximum of $125 billion to rein in (ph) the problem. For the moment, we'll wait and see the results of two independent audit reports that will be published in the next couple weeks to find out exactly how much money Spain needs. And at that point, Spain will ask for it -- Don.
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LEMON: All right. Nina Dos Santos, thank you very much.
Up next, they're called swatters. Sophisticated prank callers targeting conservative bloggers. We'll talk with the recent victim who also happens to be a CNN contributor.
Plus, shocking medical mistakes that doctors and hospitals make. We're counting them down for you.
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LEMON: Imagine if right now, you heard a knock at your door and it was the police, responding to a call that you had killed someone in cold blood.
That nightmare has apparently played out for three swerve bloggers. It is called swatting, a play on words if for SWAT team called to the most dangerous of situations. One victim was CNN contributor Erick Erickson. And I want you to listen here, where an impostor claiming to be Erickson calls 911 with a chilling tale.
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CALLER: I just shot my wife, so --
911 DISPATCHER: You just shot your wife?
CALLER: I don't think I can come down there.
911 DISPATCHER: Where's your wife at now?
CALLER: She's dead now.
911 DISPATCHER: You just shot your wife and she's dead? And you don't know where she's located at?
CALLER: Well, I know where she's located.
911 DISPATCHER: Where is she located at, sir?
CALLER: I'm looking at her?
911 DISPATCHER: What's your phone number, sir?
CALLER: I don't know, I guess you're going to have to find out. I'm going to shoot someone else soon.
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LEMON: I had a conversation with Erick and I started by asking him who it was like to listen to that tape.
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ERICK ERICKSON, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: It's surreal to hear someone calmly pretending to be me saying they've shot my wife and they're going to shoot someone else. I mean, calmly saying it. I mean, very intentionally doing that and pretending to be me. It's just -- it's surreal.
LEMON: That upset me and I'm not even involved. It's terrible. After that, what happened? The police show up --
ERICKSON: The police showed up, came into the driveway, blue lights flashing. My sister's family is in town. My wife is doing some dishes. We're sitting around chatting. The kids are running outside. My 3-year-old is enamored with the police car.
LEMON: Normal evening.
ERICKSON: We thought the kids must have done something. With the relatives in town and go out and guy hops out. And luckily he actually recognized me from being on CNN. And was wondering -- he comes out and says accidental shooting.
The second police officer shows up and comes up the driveway with his hand on his gun as my 3-year-old is in the driveway, keeps his distance behind the trunk of the first police car, and come to find out last night, there were actually police surrounding the house as they were investigating.
LEMON: When something happens to me even at work, something weird goes on, you go oh, I know who's behind this. Do you have your ideas?
ERICKSON: You know, I don't know who did this call, but what's interesting is it's happened now three different people, and the same voice on the 911 call. And all three of these.
LEMON: Do you think it's a bit premature to start claiming that it's some sort of liberal plot against conservatives?
ERICKSON: I don't think so, in that these are the three public ones. But there's other incidents following similar patterns. The latest is an individual also writing about the same topic, having his mother's home address and pictures put up online.
LEMON: The new thing about this is because you said it's been happening before. It's happened before. But having police officers and SWAT team show up at your house, that's got to be chilling.
You must be relieved. This is new peg, that Senator Saxby Chambliss of Texas wants --
ERICKSON: Georgia.
LEMON: Georgia, sorry, and Texas Congressman Kenny Marchant, they're calling for an investigation in this. Are you glad about that?
ERICKSON: I am. The individual who had it happen in New Jersey and the other in Los Angeles, their police have met dead ends because it's clearly someone doing it over a voiceover I.P. system, so the local police don't have the system to track it. With it being the same voice, you'd got to imagine there's some interstate issues involved.
LEMON: Just because I disagree with you politically does not mean I should call police -- people take this stuff seriously. Should we tone down the rhetoric? Should we become more civil? Should there be more civility? Should we realize, hey, listen, it's just politics, at the end of the day, nobody died. Stop it.
ERICKSON: Yes and no. Political rhetoric is always going to be heated. It was much more heated in the 1800s than it is today.
LEMON: There's a difference between heated political rhetoric and putting someone's life on the line, Erick.
ERICKSON: This happens in third world plutocracies and banana republics. This is the United States. It shouldn't happen here.
LEMON: We should be a bit more careful. Come on, Erick, don't you think? I'm talking about liberals and conservatives.
We should realize, most people are somewhere in the middle. You're very conservative, don't you agree?
ERICKSON: Right.
LEMON: And there are people on the left who are very liberal. Most Americans are somewhere in the middle and they don't care about the extremes.
ERICKSON: You know, it's not an issue of where you are in the political spectrum. It's an issue of the other guy, you may disagree with them, but you shouldn't the trying to summon a SWAT team to their house.
LEMON: And something like this -- somebody's doing is that -- they've got some serious issues that goes beyond politics.
ERICKSON: Pretty much so. You can hear it in the tone of voice for the 911 call, they're someone with some issues.
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LEMON: That was my conversation with CNN contributor Erick Erickson, a victim of swatting.
Next, some of the most horrific mistakes being done to patients by doctors in hospitals. You might be surprised what they are and how often they occur. We're going to have a live report.
But first this -- is your child or your grandchild attending a school that is underperforming? You can do something to help.
Here's CNN's education contributor Steve Perry.
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STEVE PERRY, CNN EDUCATION CONTRIBUTOR: There are ways that you can improve the school. The first is that you as a parent have to get involved. You have to meet with the principal and the teachers there and you have to come and be solution-oriented.
Coming in and pointing out problems doesn't help anybody. We see the same problems that you do. Talk to other parents and see what they think.
Get your PTA together. As a group, be solution-oriented. Talk about how you can improve your reading scores and math scores.
Talk about how you can make it a more comfortable environment. Fight the powers that want to maintain the status quo within the school. Demand that people stay after school with your children, even if it is outside of the contract.
You must be determined to get the best education out of any school that you have to send your child to. (END VIDEOTAPE)
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LEMON: This caught my eye and it's going to catch yours. I'm going to talk about medical mistakes. They occur more often than you'd like to believe and any of us like to even imagine when you have an emergency. In fact, that can happen even before an ambulance arrives.
Here's an early first look with senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen.
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ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A lot can go wrong on the way to the hospital. Darlene Dukes is struggling to breathe. She calls 911 and tells the operator where she is.
DARLENE DUKES: Six-o-two Wales Drive.
DISPATCHER: Six-o-two Wales Drive?
DUKES: Yes.
COHEN: Instead of dispatching an balance to Wales Drive, the dispatcher sends paramedics to Wells Street, W-E-L-L-S, 27 miles away from Darlene. Darlene dies from a blood clot, police say. After ambulance takes more than 45 minutes to find her.
JOHN KACHIMAR, JOHNS CREEK, GA. CITY MANAGER: Dropping a very, very critical amount of time in terms of the response time necessary to save somebody's life.
COHEN (on camera): When you call 911, slowly say and spell out the name of the street address.
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LEMON: OK. That's good advice. But who can really -- when you're in the middle of an emergency, are you even going to remember how to spell your street name unless it's something that -- are you even going to think about that?
COHEN: Right. This has to be the hardest time to be an empowered patient. It's very difficult. You have to remember whether you're the person who's sick or preferably if there's someone there to help you, that those details matter. When you're calling an ambulance and you want them there now, spell it out. Be as precise as you can possibly be.
LEMON: OK. That's great. You know, I was telling, you actually saw -- it's on TNT, one of our sister networks, a "Closer" episode like this, where they solve the crime because cop car wrong -- the killer went to the wrong place and the cop car ended up going to the wrong place and that's how they solved the case.
It's actually a pretty easy mistake to do that. So that's good advice. Especially someplace like here in Atlanta.
COHEN: Everything is P street, right?
LEMON: P street and Piedmont, right?
COHEN: Right.
LEMON: Does that happen very often?
COHEN: You better be specific.
LEMON: You're going to talk about other things, simple things: washing your hands. And the thing that got me is operating on the wrong part that we're going to talk about in your series. You go in and put the X on.
They don't do that anymore. There's a different thing that they do. Don't give it away, but they do it differently because --
COHEN: And I'll tell you why they do it differently. Right. Because an X sometimes means no. So you put an x on this knee and you might think that means don't do that, it's the other one. So they've come up with a protocol. But even then, sometimes things go wrong. But we talk about that in our show.
LEMON: Oh, my gosh. I can't wait to see this. This is going to be great.
Thank you, Elizabeth. Great that it empowers us, not great that it happens. Thank you, Elizabeth. Don't miss Elizabeth's special "25 Shocking Medical Mistakes."
There are more than 25, but we're going do the top 25, right?
COHEN: Right.
LEMON: Top medical mistakes. Tonight at 8:00 p.m. Eastern, right here on CNN. Elizabeth will be back the next half-hour to look at what can happen after a toxic transplant. Boy, oh, boy.
OK. moving on now, Brian Banks spent five years locked up for a crime he did not commit. Now that he's free, he is hoping to make his mark in the NFL.
Banks tried out for the Seattle Seahawks this week. It went so well, he's even been invited to the Seahawks minicamp next week. He said the tryout was the second best day of his life. Number one, the best day, just a few weeks ago when he was cleared of rape charges. The woman who accused him admitted she lied.
Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll reached out to Banks after he was exonerated. Their paths first crossed 10 years ago when Carroll offered banks a football scholarship to the University of Southern California.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BRIAN BANKS, INVITED TO SEATTLE SEAHAWKS MINICAMP: To be out here on this field, to work out with the Seahawks, to be given an opportunity to have a tryout, I really didn't have words for it. It's a dream come true.
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LEMON: The Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins all invited him to a tryout. Good luck, sir, good luck.
He is a businessman, a politician, and even a singer, but certainly someone you don't want to encounter in a fight. I'm talking about Manny Pacquiao. Just ahead, we're going to talk to him about his accomplishments and his distractions in the ring.
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LEMON: Manny Pacquiao, he is many things -- a businessman, a politician, and a singer. But tonight, he is putting it all aside for his main job, world welterweight boxing champion. He'll take on undefeated challenger Timothy Bradley in Las Vegas.
I had the chance to speak with the boxer known as Pacman and I started by asking him how distractions might have hurt his performance the ring in the past.
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MANNY PACQUIAO, WELTERWEIGHT WORLD BOXING CHAMPION: Well, if you have a lot of things to think while you're training and, you know, a lot of distractions, you cannot concentrate 100 percent. If you understand your opponent, it's kind of different, you know? This time, we really make sure I'm 100 percent conditioned and focused to the fight. And we did our best in training.
LEMON: You've been in the news recently about what you said about gays, about same-sex marriage. And you and your representatives have said that you have been misquoted by saying that gay people were sinners and should be put to death. And you don't believe in gay marriage. What do you say about that?
PACQUIAO: What I say, the truth I say is he asked me about what my position on same-sex marriage and I told him my position is I'm not in favor for that. I'm against for that. And he said why not? I said against the law of God. But I'm not saying that I'm condemning the gay people or anybody -- in fact, my favorite verse in the Bible is "Love one another, love your neighbor as you love yourself."
LEMON: Can you talk to us about your efforts to fight human trafficking? Why is this one of your passions? PACQUIAO: The trafficking is -- we fight that. I'm pushing that, to fight -- to stop the human trafficking especially in the Philippines. I really thankful for the -- for CNN for helping us and the work on that and not only in the Philippines, international, globally. So thank you. I'll continue fighting for that always.
LEMON: Let's move on now, Manny, and talk about the fact that everyone wants to see. You know what I'm talking about. And I asked Floyd Mayweather this last month when he fought. When are you two going to get in the ring together? When are you going to touch gloves?
PACQUIAO: I know. I don't know, but I want the fight to happen because that's what people want to see my fight.
My kids, my children, they say to me, daddy, I want you to retire soon, but before you retire, I want -- we have one request. What is that, son? And he said you have to fight Mayweather.
LEMON: So are you saying right here, right now on CNN that you're going to talk to your promoters and you're going to talk to them about a match with you and Floyd Mayweather and we are going to see that? You can promise that to us?
PACQUIAO: Yes, but before that, we have to focus first on this fight.
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LEMON: We're going to keep him to that promise. International boxing icon Manny Pacquiao defends his welterweight title tonight against undefeated American challenger Timothy Bradley. Coverage begins on HBO Pay-Per-View at 9:00 Eastern, 6:00 Pacific Time.
Just past -- half past the hour now, getting up close to it.
I want to take a look at your headlines. A major financial crisis tonight in Spain. Spain's government will ask the European Union to bail out its banking system, possibly to tune of up to $125 billion. The cash injection is meant just for the banks. And it's not a full bailout for the government.
You might want to look away from this next video because it's hard to look at for many. A California man faces a felony child abuse charge for spanking his stepson with a belt. A neighbor shot this video of the incident which happened Wednesday during a backyard game of catch. The accused man is an official with a central California Rotter Agency. He is now out on bail. We are following that story for you.
Police in the Phoenix, in the Phoenix area, are looking for whoever is responsible for leaving flashlight bombs around the city. Five people have been injured in three separate bomb attacks. An explosive is placed inside the flashlights and set to go off when the switch is flicked on. It's become such a problem, billboards have gone up to warn residents of the danger.
Alabama police have arrested a man wanted in the deaths of 9-year-old twins and their 73-year-old babysitter. Deandra Marquis Lee is his name, was arrested this morning in Selma. Investigators haven't detailed a possible motive or what evidence connected Lee to the case. The bodies of twins Jordan and Taylor Dejerinett and their babysitter Jack Girdner were found Tuesday on a dirt road.
How does a $3.4 million lunch tab sound to you? That's a winning bid to have lunch with legendary investor Warren Buffett. That total again, 3,468,000 for lunch with the oracle of Omaha. All proceeds go to glide which is an organization that works against poverty in the San Francisco bay area.
The boy scouts of America may start allowing gays and lesbians into their programs after years of strong opposition. A report on what change their minds, next.
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LEMON: All right. Girl scouts rocked the Washington mall today.
Organizers say 200 thousand girl scouts took part in the celebration which marks girl scout scouts' centennial. But the heat was too much for some of them. Organizers cooled people off with water cannons. Some girls apparently suffered from heat related illnesses, were taken away on stretchers. No reports of serious injuries, thankfully.
For years, boy scouts of America has strongly opposed allowing gays and lesbians to participate in the group's programs. But now after a national petition which generated nearly 300 thousand signatures, the scouts may the changing their minds, well, sort of.
Here's CNN's George Howell.
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GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The boy scouts' ban on openly gay and lesbian members became a national conversation after people came together to support this ousted den leader.
JENNIFER TYRELL, FORMER TIGER CUB LEADER: My biggest concern is that the children will think I abandoned them because they don't understand.
HOWELL: Jennifer Tyrell was dismissed as then leader because she's openly gay. She says it started when she filled in as treasury and soon started noticing financial inconsistencies within the local chapter. Tyrell says she started asking questions, but shortly thereafter, she was told by the leadership she had to resign due to the policy on gays and lesbians.
BOB DRURY, BOY SCOUT OF AMERICA EXECUTIVE: The mission of the boy scouts of America is to develop character and leadership skills, and the youth of today to become the leaders of tomorrow. And anything that distracts from that mission distracts from what our program is.
TYRELL: I don't want the kids to think that this is OK, because it's not. HOWELL: The decision ultimately led Tyrell to remove her own 7-year- old son from the scouts. But since losing her leadership role in mid April, her story has generated nearly 300 thousand signatures on a petition through change.org. It also sparked the creation of a new group, scouts for equality, co-founder Zack Wahls, who has same-sex parents, travel to the boy scouts' national convention in Orlando to meet with members and deliver the petitions.
ZACK WAHLS, CO-FOUNDER, SCOUTS FOR EQUALITY: I'm unwilling to discard the entire organization just like I'm unwilling to discard this country because of one single policy.
HOWELL: This statement from the boy scouts of America makes the point, quote, "we do not have an agenda on this matter and the boy scouts membership policy is not meant to be a blanket statement on any group of people or a social commentary," end quote.
But recently, the group indicated it would consider a resolution, filed by one of its members in April asking that local units be allowed to determine their own standards. A spokesperson says the decision to consider the resolution was not influenced by any of the petitions and does not signal and imminent change of the policy. It's simply part of the process for careful and respectful review. But Tyrell is optimistic.
TYRELL: They're making a huge stride. Let's not take that away from them. Along with President Obama, they're evolving. And hopefully eventually they'll get there.
HOWELL: An issue that has been debated before within the boy scouts, brought back to the forefront by a former member pushing for change.
George Howell, CNN, Atlanta.
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LEMON: It is a hot button issue. Illegal immigration. How to keep undocumented immigrants and what to do with the ones already here.
For his new special on how to fix the problem, Fareed Zakaria looks for solutions from other countries, including Canada, where he found an interesting case study of immigrant harmony.
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FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN HOST, FAREED ZAKARIA GPS (voice-over): If you've never been to Calgary, you might know it for its annual stampede. Ten days of cowboys. Rodeos. Last year, the royals. And of course, its Muslim cowboy hat wearing mayor. What? Who?
NAHEED NENSHI, CALGARY MAYOR: The great thing about Calgary is nobody thinks it's funny that a guy who looks like me in a cowboy hat is sometimes the image of this city. People just accept that.
ZAKARIA: When Naheed Nenshi became the first Muslim mayor of a major Canadian city in 2010 -- NENSHI: Next. Yes.
ZAKARIA: He shattered Calgary's red neck stereotype.
NENSHI: When I was running for office, it was only people who were not from here who said whoa, is Calgary ready for a mayor like that? The people in Calgary just said it's a kid from the east end, we know him.
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LEMON: Make sure you watch Fareed's special, the GPS road map for making immigration work. Its tomorrow night, Sunday night it at 8:00 eastern here on CNN.
What could be considered the last of the wild west, there is a showdown of a different kind where we're going to take you there. We're talking "tombstone" here. Where some fear the feds are standing in the way of the town's survival.
Plus, someone get nurse Jackie a lifesaver, do it stat. Edie Falco is answering ireporter questions on what she says makes her a better friend and why she should meet the Sky Walker.
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LEMON: In the wild west, water is gold. But the duel over this liquid treasure isn't going to come down to the luck of the draw.
CNN's Martin Savidge travels to Tombstone, a town in the middle of a showdown.
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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Tombstone loves a good showdown. At the OK corral, there's one twice a day.
Each year, 400,000 tourists come to the town that is the old west. Since the 1880s, it survived gun slingers, mines that went bust and the desert. But Tombstone may have met its match.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're obviously at war with the U.S. forest service.
SAVIDGE: It starts with a 130-year-old pipeline that brings the water to town.
GEORGE BARNES, TOMBSTONE CITY MANAGER And the waterline here, as you'll see, is pretty long. It runs literally about 26 miles from the city of tombstone all the way across to the mountains.
SAVIDGE: Fires and bloods have knocked out the pipes before. What's the problem now?
BARNES: Well, what's happened since is the existence of the wilderness act and the national forest. SAVIDGE: In 1984, Congress declared the national forest around Tombstone springs a federally protected wilderness, preserving it for future generation, letting nature take its course and banning anything mechanical. And I mean anything.
So it's true that a wheelbarrow would be prohibited under the wilderness act.
KEVIN RUDD, TOMBSTONE PROJECT MANAGER: Correct.
SAVIDGE: -- which has made Kevin Rudd's job to fixing the water system difficult.
RUDD: We walk in now. We walk in. We carry picks and shovels and the materials are up on our shoulders and we access it on foot now.
SAVIDGE: its tough going.
You can understand why this seems to be the intersection of bureaucracy and common sense.
JIM UPCHURCH, FOREST SUPERVISOR, COCONINO NATIONAL FOREST: Right.
SAVIDGE: And that has people scratching their heads.
UPCHURCH: And I say that I don't like bureaucracy and I like to think that I use common sense. But in this case, I have to make sure that we comply with the laws and regulations.
SAVIDGE: After a few months, the forest service relented and let in the machines and people need to get the water flowing again, and it is.
It rumbles through there.
But tombstone wants to do a lot more work that could take years. The forest service says it's willing to consider after it sees the plans and completes the necessary impact studies.
Tombstone says it can't afford wait and it shouldn't have to. It's filed a lawsuit against the national forest service.
RUDD: We're at risk. Tombstone doesn't have the water it needs to protect its citizens.
SAVIDGE: Meanwhile, tombstone's showdown with the federal government is popular with some of across the country who send the town their support in the form of shovels.
Martin Savidge, CNN, Tombstone, Arizona.
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LEMON: All right, they're off and racing, but if you haven't heard, the heavy favorite missed today's Belmont stakes. A live report from the track next here on CNN. And we want you to stay connected to CNN even on the go. Make sure you grab your mobile phone, go to CNN.com/TV. Go it on your desk top, your laptop as well and watch us live.
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LEMON: Horseracing fans will have to wait one more year at least to see a thoroughbred win the triple crown. Today's Belmont stakes just wasn't the race that fans wanted to see. Since I'll have another ended his quest for the triple crown due to injury this week.
CNN's Richard Roth was at the track for today's race.
So, Richard, other than the lack of a triple crown contender, how was the race?
RICHARD ROTH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was a pretty good race. Let's take a look at how it ended, as NBC covered the race, watching union rags, a top three-year-old who had traffic problems in the Kentucky derby when he was soundly defeated by I'll have another who once of going triple crown. Union rags roared up the rail to defeat Painter, trained by Bob Afford. So, Bob Afford, pretty second in all three triple crown races.
Earlier in the winner's circle, I'll have another appeared along with his left leg injury, the swollen tendon. It was a retirement ceremony. He was accompanied again by his veteran stable Pony Lava Man who seemed to act up a bit and didn't like all the attention for I'll have another, constantly blocking our cameras.
The crowds cheered, though I thought it would be more of a thunderous ovation. It wasn't. You could hardly hear the announcement about what was happening and everybody was getting ready for the big race.
Doug O'Neill said he was, of course, still disappointed that he couldn't watch I'll have another run. Now he's headed off to breeding duty. But I talked to him after the race.
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ROTH: It was a bummer yesterday when this race happens and he is not in it, does it really hit you again?
DOUG O'NEILL, TRAINER, I'LL HAVE ANOTHER: You know, we just win, such an unbelievable run, and he's in an once-in-a-lifetime horse. So, we're just focused on the great part of this journey that he took us through.
ROTH: Thank you very much. Say hello to your mother.
O'NEILL: I will. Thank you.
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ROTH: CNN talked to Mike Smith, who finished second on Painter, asked was the race still the same even without I'll have another, Mike Smith in effect saying, well, you could ask the crowd but he felt it. Some New York pizzazz. Smith of course deeply disappointed.
Tomorrow I'll have another leaves New York city. Going home, and he's got another career waiting.
Don, back to you from here at Belmont park.
LEMON: Hey, Rich, I've got to say, we have to reiterate, Union Rags won. Because this was such a fairy tale for I'll Have Another, even though I'll Have Another wasn't there, that's who everyone is talking about. They're not really talking about the winner.
ROTH: I know. That's what happens. But there is an interesting note. The trainer of Union Rags, Michael Matz, who trained Barbaro, who broke down in the Preakness and could have won the triple crown perhaps. So it doesn't make up to it completely, but probably pretty sweet for Michael Matz after suffering through Barbaro's long illness and then eventual death. Victory in the Belmont stakes here in New York.
LEMON: I've got to tell you, Richard Roth, not a bad assignment for you to have on a beautiful day like today.
Congratulations and congratulations to Union Rags as well. Appreciate it, Richard.
OK. So you know her as Carm, Carmela, you know, from "the sopranos," but many people know Edie Falco in her new role as nurse Jackie.
Tonight, she answers questions from our ireporters including what makes her a better mother and what hugely popular movie she's never seen.
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EDIE FALCO, ACTRESS: I hear nurses and doctors say if you ever want more stories -- which is thrilling, also. Because I mean, just when you think you've done the weirdest thing you can do story-wise they're like, you have no idea how weird things really get.
Hi. I'm Edie Falco from Showtime's "nurse Jackie," and I'm answering your ireporter questions.
WILLIAM BERNSTEIN JR., IREPORTER: You as an actress are quite busy in your career of acting. So I'm curious, when if ever are you ever to take a break or do you want to take a break from acting for a time?
FALCO: Well, William, I don't take a lot of breaks. Frankly, I really love to work. I am happiest when I'm working. I think I'm a better friend to my friends, better mother to my kids. I imagine there may be a time when I don't want to work as much, and for that reason I'm working a lot now.
MELISSA FAELI, IREPORTER: I've seen the first three episodes now of "nurse Jackie" on Showtime, and I was wondering, are you happy with the way that they're handling your character's rehab? FALCO: I actually have never been in rehab. So I don't know what that experience is really like. There are some things about it I really sort of get. The fact that she's not being treated especially at all. Which on some level she's always used to. She's being treated a little bit like a child. You have to kind of sleep in your certain bed, and there's a time that you have to go to bed and chores you have to do and all that stuff. And it remains to be seen whether or not it will actually take.
ANDY CLINTON, IREPORTER: My mother-in-law keeps recommending that we should watch a movie you were in called "Judy Berlin." I keep saying we should just watch "Star Wars" again. Help me settle this.
FALCO: Well, Andy, I hate to say it, but your mother-in-law's right. Having never seen "Star Wars," I really can't tell you whether or not it's something you should see. But I do know you absolutely should see "Judy Berlin" because I'm in it.
I'm Judy Berlin from high school!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi.
FALCO: My god. David Gold. This is so freaky.
It's a quirky movie about long island, about a bunch of real people, you know, real-seeming people. And I'm very proud of it. You can watch "Star Wars" anytime.
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LEMON: Pretty cool there, Edie Falco. You can see more fascinating interviews like this one online at our Web site, CNN.com/interview.
You have heard the horror stories. An operation on the wrong leg. A medical tool left inside a patient after an operation. And so on and so on. It's terrible. A live report is next on some of the worst medical mistakes.
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LEMON: Fire it up. Another big state easing up on pot laws. One person who thinks it is a good idea is Tommy Chong. You know him as Cheech's buddy. He likes it. Man, as he says.
But it's just about feeling good. It's about making money here. Could weed help produce more green to help out our burnout economy? We're talking about it tonight at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. We are going to go there when it comes to this conversation about pot.
Plus, little people with big problems over snow white's dwarfs. We're talking to Matt and Amy Roloff from the hit TLC show "Little People, Big World." That's tonight at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. Don't miss that.
And we're going to talk about health now. But I have to tell you, Elizabeth Cohen is here. Elizabeth, we're not going to say who it is. But a Hollywood star makes an announcement on our air tonight at 10:00 p.m. regarding I won't say his or her, their health tonight.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Wow.
LEMON: Yes. Has a health issue. And it's going to be interesting.
COHEN: I will be watching.
LEMON: All right. Yes.
All right. So listen, the last thing you expect to hear after a big surgery is to find out something went wrong during your procedure. And as you saw, I'm sitting here with our senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen. Your special tonight looks at many things. Many things. One of which is toxic transplants. Right?
COHEN: That's right. And we're going to actually be giving a sneak preview right now. I'll be counting down my list of 25 shocking medical mistakes. Here's an early look at one of them, where a young man lost his life.
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COHEN (voice-over): Joshua Hightower needs a new kidney. He's on a list waiting his turn for the life-saving organ. A potential donor dies. Joshua gets one of the man's kidneys. And then suddenly, instead of getting better, he gets sicker.
JENNIFER HIGHTOWER, JOSHUA'S MOTHER: He was throwing up, headaches, had the shakes real bad, sleeping a lot.
COHEN: Within months, Joshua is dead. At age 18. A doctor tells his mother he died of rabies.
HIGHTOWER: And I said, what do you mean rabies? Like some foreign branch of rabies or some kind that is, you know, uncommon or rare? And I said or the kind you that vaccinate your dog every year for? And he said Jennifer, the kind you vaccinate your dog every year for.
COHEN: And just how does this teenager get rabies? A virus that's spread by animals. That new kidney he gets is infected with rabies before it even gets inside his body.
Here's how it happens. The organ donor has been bitten by a bat, but no one knows it. The virus spreads through the bloodstream.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No one suspected that this person had rabies. All the organs were transplanted. And all the recipients contracted rabies.
COHEN: Only later did doctors realize the donor had all the symptoms of rabies from the beginning and they never should have used his organs. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's thousands and thousands of potential pathogens out there that organ donors could be infected with. Rabies is so uncommon, the screening test for rabies are not universally available.
COHEN: In the U.S. more than 100 people have been victims of similar toxic transplants.
After a transplant if you get sicker instead of better ask if the other recipients from the same donor are also sick. Early treatment could save your life.
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LEMON: You're kidding me. Rabies --
COHEN: I know. Isn't that awful?
LEMON: My goodness.
COHEN: It's really awful.
LEMON: And you connect these mistakes to personal stories. This is real stuff. Right?
COHEN: This is real stuff. This is stuff that actually happened to people. We want to make sure it doesn't happen to other people.
LEMON: Thank you. Here it is.
Elizabeth Cohen's Special Report. It is called "25 medical mistakes." It begins right now.
