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Aired August 13, 2012 - 14:00   ET

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CNN NEWSROOM continues with Brooke Baldwin.

Hey, Brooke.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Are you inhaling golden diamonds? I don't understand that, Suzanne. Thank you so much.

Hi, everyone. I'm Brooke Baldwin. Good to be with you today.

Happening live, the man of the hour is Paul Ryan. He is about to fly solo for the very first time as Mitt Romney's running mate. And if he is running, if he is running, according to schedule right now, Paul Ryan is arriving now at the Iowa State Fair. That's in Des Moines. And he'll be speaking atop one of those soap boxes where Romney himself spoke -- actually it was one year ago yesterday. Do you remember that moment? Perhaps you remember it because that is where Romney made his off quoted remark that, quote, "corporations are people." Peter Hamby is in Iowa for us today covering this big first solo appearance.

So, Peter, let me begin with just, is Team Romney pleased with the big Paul Ryan rollout? Are they -- they seemed pretty happy with their guy.

PETER HAMBY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER (via telephone): Yes, they seem to be pretty happy right now. Look, there were some initial concerns among some advisors that it might be too risky to go with Paul Ryan because of this controversial position on Medicare. A large majority of voters don't want their Medicare changed. So there was some internal disputes. A lot of people thought that Pawlenty might -- Tim Pawlenty, the former governor of Minnesota, might be a safer pick.

But, you know, they've raised a lot of money online, $3.5 million on the web in the 24 hours since the pick was announced. They've been getting big crowds. The conservative base seems to be energized. The big question for the Romney campaign, though, and, again, some advisors are saying this privately, what happens when the luster fades? Does his -- Paul Ryan's plan become sort of hung around Romney's neck in this campaign and does it become unpopular with independents and hurt him in some key states.

Brooke.

BALDWIN: If and when that honeymoon seems -- phase ends.

You know, when we -- when I think of Paul Ryan, when I've seem him or read about him, he sounds like a pretty earnest guy. Fairly wonky, but down to earth. I just want to play some sound. This is Paul Ryan speaking just last night in his native Wisconsin.

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PAUL RYAN (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My veins run with cheese, bratwurst and a little spot of (INAUDIBLE) and some Miller. I like to hunt here. I like to fish here. I like to snowmobile here. I even think ice fishing is interesting.

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BALDWIN: OK. So ice fishing and cheese in the veins. I mean he's working the common man thing, Peter. But they all do that more or less. So perhaps it's also worth pointing out that Ryan comes from a well to do family. And not Romney rich, but he does seem to have inherited quite a bit of money, right?

HAMBY: Yes. And he was -- he actually went -- was put through college on -- his father died when he was 16 years old and his father's Social Security helped pay for some of his college. He's not Romney rich, but a lot of Republicans say, though, that they think Paul Ryan can go into lots of different places. He's an avid hiker. He can go to Colorado and talk to the hunters out there about hiking. He likes to bow hunt. He likes to noodle, which is a curious sport where you stick your fist into water and let a catfish bite it.

BALDWIN: I just learned about noodling this weekend.

HAMBY: You know, he can talk about sort of these, you know, sports and games that some working class voters might connect with.

BALDWIN: Yes.

HAMBY: You know, sort of like Sarah Palin could. We'll see. Though I think Paul Ryan might be a little bit more of a safer play than Sarah Palin.

BALDWIN: Yes. Again, just a quick reminder to our viewers, we are awaiting Paul Ryan at the Iowa State Fair. So as soon as we see him, we're going to bring that live. His first solo appearance.

But, you know, with all this talk about Paul Ryan, let's not forget that it is Mitt Romney who is the top dog here on the Republican ticket. Let's listen to Mitt Romney. This is when he was speaking in May about the importance of business experience for anyone running for president. Here he was.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I was speaking with one of these business owners who owns a couple of restaurants in town. And he said, you know, I'd like to change the Constitution. I'm not sure I can do it, he said, but I'd like to have a provision in the Constitution that in addition to the age of the president and the citizenship of the president and the birthplace of the president being set by the Constitution, I'd like it also to say that the president has to spend at least three years working in business before he can become president of the United States.

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BALDWIN: All right, Peter Hamby, so has Paul Ryan worked three years in business? Any years in business?

HAMBY: The short answer is no. He worked for a marketing, you know, company back home in Janesville a little bit (ph) he ran for Congress. But he's spent his entire professional career in Washington. He was (INAUDIBLE) Washington. He worked for Jack Kemp's think tank. He was a congressional staffer. He's been in Congress. He was elected to Congress in 1998.

He is a Washington insider. Let's not make any bones about it. The Romney campaign is framing it in the way that he went to Washington out of principles. He was scared of what was happening to our country, so he's been in Washington.

But this is something that Paul Ryan's going to have to answer for. And you heard President Obama today going after Paul Ryan for being part of that House Republican caucus holding up the farm bill. President Obama's going to make House Republicans an enemy in this campaign. He always was. And now Mitt Romney has a House Republican right on the ticket with him.

Brooke.

BALDWIN: Peter, if we think in terms of pure political calculations, Ryan could also, you know, help the Romney ticket in his native Wisconsin, has a Republican governor, but very much so voting Democratic in every presidential election since 1998. On the other hand, could Ryan's position on Medicare, you know, you think of the -- let's say Florida, the elderly population there, could that really end up hurting him on such a key state?

HAMBY: It absolutely could. Florida is absolutely critical to Mitt Romney's campaign. Plenty of seniors in Florida among all the battlegrounds state, that's ground zero for seniors, retirees, people who care about their Medicare and Social Security deeply. If Mitt Romney loses Florida, and its 29 electoral votes, the electoral map becomes next to impossible for Mitt Romney. He's got to win almost every battleground state that we have on our CNN electoral map -- New Hampshire, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, all those states, and then win Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or Michigan. One of those blue leaning states.

It's very tough. This is a risk for the Romney campaign. And internal polls, many Republicans have told me in recent days, show Romney not doing well at all among Hispanic voters in Florida. So if the Romney campaign can -- excuse me, if the Obama campaign can define Paul Ryan early on this Medicare issue, tie into Mitt Romney, the one-two punch of that Medicare question plus Romney's troubles with Hispanic voters, you could have big problems for Republicans in Florida in November, Brooke.

BALDWIN: There was a lot of, if he doesn't win Florida then this and this and this there. So we'll see -- we'll see what happens. In the meantime, we'll talk to you, Peter Hamby, when we see Paul Ryan atop that soap box.

Quickly, do we know if he's taking questions?

HAMBY: Not yet. This is still in the roll out phase. When I covered Palin back in 2008, it took a while for them to get to the regular questions from the media.

BALDWIN: OK.

HAMBY: We'll see if there are people in the crowd who want their questions answered (ph). We certainly saw that, as you mentioned, with Mitt Romney last summer here, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Yes. Yes. I am sure people, perhaps yourself included, will be shouting questions, perhaps just not with answers yet.

Peter Hamby on the ground for us in Iowa. Peter, thank you so much.

And, yes, Paul Ryan, he is stealing the spotlight for sure, but he doesn't have the state of Iowa to himself today because President Obama also making the rounds in the state that helped propel him to the Democratic Party nomination four years ago. He is on this three- day trip through Iowa promising federal help for farmers suffering in the drought. But he too, as Peter just mentioned, has Paul Ryan on his mind.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This weekend, my opponent, Mr. Romney, chose his running -- as his running mate the ideological leader of the Republicans in Congress. And I've got to tell you, I know Congressman Ryan. He's a good man. He's a family man. He is -- he's an articulate -- he is an articulate spokesman for Governor Romney's vision. But the problem is, that vision is one that I fundamentally disagree with.

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BALDWIN: And (INAUDIBLE) Florida here. Another key battleground state. Some call it, as Peter pointed out, this must win for Republicans because this is where Mitt Romney is campaigning. He's going after President Obama's record. He's touting, what else, or who else, Paul Ryan. Romney told a crowd in St. Augustine this morning that Paul Ryan's plans to reform the budget will protect, not ruin, Medicare.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He's come up with ideas that are very different than the president's. the president's idea, for instance, for Medicare, was to cut it by $700 billion. That's not the right answer. We want to make sure that we preserve and protect Medicare. The president's plan for our budget deficit was to make it worse. And Paul Ryan and I are going to get America to cut our spending and to finally get us to a balanced budget.

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BALDWIN: And some great notes -- news to bring you today. I will be anchoring this show live from Tampa, where Republicans are holding their national convention two weeks from today. So excited to be there. It kicks off August 27th right here on CNN. So I will see you from Tampa then.

Also since we're getting closer to the debate here, a quick shout-out to my colleague, our very own Candy Crowley, who will be the first woman in two decades to moderate a presidential debate. As CNN's chief political correspondent and host of "State of the Union," Candy will moderate the second faceoff between President Obama and Mitt Romney at Hofstra University. So a huge, heartfelt congrats to Miss Candy Crowley.

This just in here. We are learning that investigators have taken a gunman into custody after reports of an active shooting at or near the campus of Texas A&M University. The school said citing on its website. I want to bring in the public information officer with College Station Police. She is Rhonda Seaton.

Rhonda, if you're with me, tell me -- tell me what you know and what happened.

OFFICER RHONDA SEATON, COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS POLICE (via telephone): At this point, I don't have a lot of information. I can tell you that we did respond to an active shooter situation on the street off of campus. It is near the campus, but it is not on the Texas A&M campus.

Officers did respond. We have multiple people who have been shot. We also have law enforcement that have been shot. I do not have any numbers at this point. And I do not have injuries at this point.

BALDWIN: OK. So about when did this happen? How recently?

SEATON: I'm sorry, I can't hear you.

BALDWIN: How recently did this shooting happen?

SEATON: I believe the call came in somewhere around 12:00. I have not even been able to get the actual time that we responded. I can tell you that the pages started going out about 12:45. And so it was somewhere shortly before that.

BALDWIN: And this individual who had the gun, who was doing the shooting, this person is apprehended?

SEATON: I can tell you that we have one suspect contained. At this point, I have not been able to get to the scene. I do not know if there were multiple suspects or if this is the only person. I will be gathering that information and we'll have it shortly.

BALDWIN: When you say contained, this person is no longer shooting? This person is in the custody of police?

SEATON: That's correct.

BALDWIN: OK. So again, multiple -- multiple injuries. You're saying both people in and around this campus community, whether they're students or individuals on the streets, and also officers, but you don't know the extent of the injuries? Is that what I'm hearing?

SEATON: I do not know at this time. Hopefully I will be getting that information very shortly and able to release that.

BALDWIN: OK. And just final question. How close to campus? How close to Texas A&M?

SEATON: I believe that it's -- this portion is probably within a block or two of campus.

BALDWIN: OK. We'll let you get off the phone. It sounds like you have some phone calls to make. And we'll continue following up with you. But again, we appreciate it. The public information officer with the Police Department there in College Station. A shooting, as she reported, multiple injuries. And it sounds like one suspect, she said, is contained, in custody. Perhaps others involved. We don't know yet. It's still unfolding. We'll stay on it.

We're also on this. Roll it.

A man known as "Rambo" was the most wanted fugitive in a country that rarely sees violent crime. And now they're pulling out all the stops to track him down.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Even the simple act of crossing the street requires a strong heart and fast feet. The sniper's bullet is just a crack away.

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BALDWIN: CNN takes you inside the hell that is Syria.

Plus, a teenager in custody, accused of stealing a celebrity chef's Lamborghini. But get this. Police say two guys just tried to break him out.

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BALDWIN: Do you remember this story not too long ago, the teenager accused of stealing celebrity chef Guy Fieri's Lamborghini? His name is Max Wade. He has been locked up in California ever since. He's also charged with attempted murder.

But here's the thing. This past Friday, two of his buddies allegedly showed up at the jail with bolt cutters and a sledge hammer in the middle of the night to try to break him out. For more on the story, we turn to Lieutenant Barry Heying of the Marin County, California, sheriff's department. He's on the phone with me.

And, lieutenant, the first thing I thought was, 4:30 in the morning and a sledge hammer, that's not exactly a quiet way to go. How far did these two guys get?

LT. BARRY HEYING, MARIN COUNTY, CALIFORNIA, SHERIFF'S DEPT. (via telephone): Well, not too far. Obviously a sledge hammer makes a lot of noise and at 4:35 in the morning, it only took a moment or so before the staff at the juvenile hall heard the noise outside. They immediately evacuated all the inmates from that area of the housing facility and they called deputies from our department to come and investigate.

BALDWIN: How -- physically, how close did they get to getting Max Wade or reaching his cell?

HEYING: Well, they were on the exact opposite wall of where he was housed. He was being housed alone due to his security status at the facility. And the window and the wall that they were pounding on with the sledge hammer was the south exterior wall to his cell.

BALDWIN: OK. So if they were that close to him, that makes me think they knew precisely where he was, makes me wonder, was Max Wade himself in on the plan?

HEYING: Sure. We're following a number of leads at this point to try to determine who might have been involved in this, whether or not it was a conspiracy. We don't have any evidence to suggest that Max Wade was actively involved in this plan. However, if they had been successful in breaking through that wall, he's the only person on the other side of it. So it certainly points to a deliberate attempt to free him from custody. Whether or not he was involved in it, at this point we do not know.

BALDWIN: What about this part of it, the timing here, lieutenant? Because I know Friday was Max Wade's 18th birthday. He was supposed to be transferred out of this, you know, juvenile detention facility into an adult jail. So I have to wonder also the timing of this. Was it not a coincidence?

HEYING: We don't think it was a coincidence either. The transport was scheduled for just a few hours later that morning. So I do believe that timing was an issue here. He's now in our main adult facility and certainly they wouldn't be able to try something like that where he's housed now.

BALDWIN: Final question. Max Wade, what has he said about all this? Where is he now?

HEYING: He expressed surprise Friday morning that this was going on. So he hasn't really given us any indication that he's involved in this. Again, he is currently undergoing prosecution on a number of very serious charges from the Marin County District Attorney's Office. So they've asked us to be very careful what we discuss so that their ongoing case is not jeopardized. However, I can tell you that he's not made any statements useful in our investigation in this incident.

BALDWIN: OK, nothing useful.

Lieutenant Barry Heying, Marin County, California.

Lieutenant, appreciate it. Thank you.

HEYING: Thank you, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Now this.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Even the simple act of crossing the street requires a strong heart and fast feet. The sniper's bullet is just a crack away.

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BALDWIN: That is reality inside of Syria as these killings are getting worse. CNN's Ben Wedeman joins me live on what it was like to walk these streets, next.

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BALDWIN: If a video on YouTube is real, rebels in Syria have shown signs in strength never before seen. Take a look.

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BALDWIN: Rebels from the Free Syrian Army say this amateur video shows their people shooting down one of Syria's fighter jets. Rebels say they brought down a MiG-23, meaning they appear to be armed with much more than merely guns. But as you know the details from this country, it's really tough to confirm since this bloody uprising began last March. Rebels add, they caught the pilot inside the downed fighter jet and he's telling other pilots to oppose the government.

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COL. MUFEED MUHAMMED SALMAN, PILOT, REPORTEDLY CAPTURED, (through translator): I am Colonel Mufeed Muhammed Salman.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): And what's the task assigned to you? SALMAN: Our task is to bomb the city of Mohasen (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you say to your fellow Assad army officers?

SALMAN: I tell them to defect from this guy.

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BALDWIN: Syrian state media report the jet had a navigation malfunction. They say the pilot ejected, but he's not been found.

From the air to the ground, I want to focus the latest here on the city of Aleppo. We've talked so much about Aleppo. If Damascus is Syria's Washington, Aleppo, the commercial hub, that's Syria's New York City. And Aleppo, as you know, is under siege. CNN's senior international correspondent Ben Wedeman got inside Aleppo where empty sidewalks are now killing zones. A warning before we play this video, it's disturbing to look at.

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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He wasn't a fighter or a revolutionary. He didn't live by the gun. But 45-year-old Hasan (ph), a shopkeeper, died from an unseen sniper's bullet. Neighbors and fighters had to hoist his body over walls between apartment buildings in the back streets of Aleppo's Mashad (ph) neighborhood to avoid the snipers.

His wife was by his side when the bullet ripped through his head. They had come to help relatives pinned down by the violence to escape to safer ground.

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BALDWIN: Ripped through his head.

Ben Wedeman joining me now from northern Syria.

And, Ben, I feel like if I were to ask you about the fear among civilians in Syria, fear just doesn't really seem to -- it seems like an understatement.

WEDEMAN: Yes. I mean these are people walking around a neighborhood which just a few weeks ago was completely peaceful. And it's understandable why they don't want to leave their homes even if there's bombardment shooting all around.

And what we saw was this man, a 45-year-old shopkeeper, had come with his wife to bring, to convince one of their relatives to leave that area to safer ground and he himself died in the process. And it does seem to appear that most of the people being killed by the snipers in that area are indeed civilians. People who don't quite understand what snipers -- where snipers are, who they're shooting at. They may assume that as civilians, they won't be shot at. But what we saw, we saw in this trip to Aleppo and in our previous one is that they shoot at anything that moves. Brooke.

BALDWIN: So if civilians can't even walk through these streets, the streets are empty, how are they -- how are they getting food, medical care? How are they surviving? Ben Wedeman, can you hear me?

WEDEMAN: Well, really there are very few civilians left in that area. What they are doing is they are lining up very early outside of the few bakeries that are functioning to get bread. They have very little in the way of -- yes. Yes, I can hear you, although I can tell there's some sort of communications problem. Can you hear me now, Brooke?

BALDWIN: I can, Ben, go ahead. The delay just must be very long. Continue about the survival.

WEDEMAN: Yes, people -- they're scraping by with what they can. We saw in other parts of Aleppo that are under rebel control, that, in fact, there is food. But many people haven't worked in weeks. These are very poor districts. And they've essentially spent all the money they have. So even if there is food, they don't have the money to buy it. And a lot of the people who stay in these neighborhoods can't leave because they have nowhere to go. They don't have the money, for instance, to rent an apartment somewhere else. So they really are stuck in the cross fire.

Brooke.

BALDWIN: Ben Wedeman for us in northern Syria. We're going to talk to Ben next hour and tell more stories such as this 45-year-old shopkeeper. Ben, thank you.

We are learning more today about the man Mitt Romney chose as his running mate. Coming up next, we'll speak with Paul Ryan's former economics professor back in college about who mentored the Republican and why this professor says President Obama is scared of Ryan.

But first, some interesting facts about Mitt Romney's running mate. He's married. The 42 year old is a father of three, two boys, Charlie and Sam, one girl, Liza. Kind of a health nut if you haven't heard. 6'2" tall, 163 pounds. Brags about that 6 percent body fat. He does he stay in such good shape? He works out religiously. Leads fellow Hill staffers in daily morning sessions of the popular body sculpting program, maybe you dare to do this at home, P90X. We've got more facts on Mitt Romney's number two, Paul Ryan, after the break.

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: It's a big talker around many water coolers today. Mitt Romney has chosen Wisconsin Republican, Paul Ryan, as his number two on the ballot come November, but before the break, we gave you some pretty interesting facts here about the possible next vice president.

Want another one, he's a former frat guy. The Miami Ohio University here along with a member of the Delta Tao Delta and when he's not working, the fifth generation Wisconsinite loves to go fly fishing.

At this hour, Congressman Paul Ryan, he is speaking at the Iowa State Fair in Des Moines. He's appearing solo for the very first time as Mitt Romney's running mate.

Joining me now on the phone is one of Paul Ryan's mentors, Richard Hart. He is a professor, 38.5 years as a professor of Economics at the Miami University of Ohio.

Professor Hart, welcome to you. You taught Paul Ryan. I understand the two of you were quite close. You still are. Did you see this coming?

RICHARD HART, MIAMI UNIVERSITY (via telephone): Well, I didn't see -- the career in politics, maybe yes and once he got into the politics, I'm not surprised. He's clearly the intellectual leader of the Republican Party.

So I thought he was an excellent pick. He all knew he was on that list of four and we all knew he was on that list, so he had one in four chances. I'm thrilled with the pick. I think it's an excellent, excellent pick.

BALDWIN: I know you met with him a couple of years ago. You were urging him to become president. Just quickly, how did you get the news that he was the chosen one here?

HART: Actually I got it, my daughter who works on the Hill. She's a chief of staff for a congressman, John Corny from Delaware. She texted me and she said, OMG, it's Paul Ryan.

BALDWIN: As a Democrat, is that a good OMG or a bad OMG?

HART: She likes Paul. I mean, obviously, they are different sides. She's a Democrat, but he's a Republican. He's been very nice to her and she's talking to me about how polite she is to her. When he found out that my daughter worked on the Hill, he went out of the way to introduce himself to her.

She frequently comments to me about how nice he's been to her. You know, that's Paul. He's extraordinarily personable person, very nice.

BALDWIN: Well, professor, I want to bring this back to you because it sounds as though Paul Ryan was an atypical student and by that means totally absorbed in his studies and particular those involving, you know, as we like to say wonky subjects like politics and economics. Is that the case?

HART: I don't know, yes, I mean, rare, certainly rare. He had this one characteristic that is increasingly rare among college students these days and that is intellectual curiosity. He is very curious about things, I mean, in addition to being bright and articulate and cerebral.

But he was intellectually curious and that's one of the things that stand out and it's also one of the things, students who take -- and I've had tons of students that have been curious and students in my class who are intellectually curious.

They tend to be attracted to me and I tend to be attracted to them because what they find out fairly quickly is that they can come into my office and I won't rush them out. I'll spend hours on the end hour after hour talking to them as long as it's a serious intellectual discussion where I think both parties to the discussion are benefitting.

And that's exactly what happened with Paul. He would come in during office hours and we would spend two, three, four hours, mostly discussing political philosophy.

BALDWIN: What else? I mean, in the end in these multiple hours, give me something, Professor, that they might, you know, surprise us.

HART: Well, in terms of our office discussions?

BALDWIN: Sure.

HART: Well, we would discuss, he was reading John Locke. My intermediate macro theory class, I don't know if I introduced him, but certainly exposed him to the writings of Milton Freedman although this was a macro theory class.

So he was reading professional papers. I think from there he branched off into some of Freedman's philosophical work, capitalism and freedom in particular. So, you know, what we talked about were these sorts of things.

You know, the role of government in this society. Should the government play a large role or should we have small government and emphasize individual freedom and liberty and of course, with individual freedom and liberty goes individual responsibility.

When he came to Miami, I think he had these core conservative beliefs and what he did at Miami. He was reading a lot of this material on his own. He wasn't getting this from any courses he was taking.

He was doing it on his own. The philosophical treaties that he was reading, "Hayek's Road to Serfdom," John Locke, Milton Freedman's "Capitalism and Freedom," I think what they were really doing is re- enforcing his fundamental beliefs. He was trying to be certain that these beliefs were right. He found out they were.

BALDWIN: So clearly this started early, early on for him. This final question, was there anything about him that just surprised you?

HART: Well, other than the fact he was one of these really good outstanding excellent students, personable, quick witted and a joy to teach. I mean, these are the types of students I love teaching.

The ones that you can engage and interact with and you can push and prod to perform to a higher level. He was certainly that type of student. Again, I've had a lot of students over the 38 years like that.

Most of them are running under the radar, building businesses. They've all been successful. When Paul left Miami, I didn't know where he would end up. But I knew one thing, where he ended up, he would be very successful.

And I had tons of students who's left Miami, I don't know where they are going to end up, but wherever they end up, they will be very successful. So he's the one that got the most exposure.

BALDWIN: Clearly getting a lot of exposure thanks to what's now happened over the past 48 hours. Professor Richard Heart, Economics professor, Miami of Ohio, thank you so much, Sir. We appreciate it.

We mentioned a moment ago, Paul Ryan, this is his very first solo appearance. So he has been on the soap box at the Iowa State Fair. We're going to turn that sound around for you. We'll play it for you, next.

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BALDWIN: As we mentioned we have a Republican vice presidential candidate. Paul Ryan spoke to folks of the Iowa State Fair moments ago. He attacked President Obama and the lack of jobs in America. Here he is on the soap box.

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REPRESENTATIVE PAUL RYAN (R), VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: President Obama isn't making it here because he only knows left turns. As you see the president come through on his bus tour, you might ask him the same question that I'm getting asked from people all around America and that is where are the jobs, Mr. President?

Now, one thing we've got to get straight is we're not going creating jobs like we can in America. That's why Mitt Romney and I have a plan for a stronger middle class to get this country back on track, get this country growing jobs again and get us back on the path of prosperity in this country.

There are five things that we're going to do right away that are designed to create 12 million jobs. Number one, we have energy in this country plus use that energy in this country, everything renewable, biomass, nuclear, and you know what? Oil and gas. It's here. Let's get it. Let's not keep buying from other countries.

We also need our workers have skills so they can compete and thrive and survive in this 21st Century economy. We also need to do is stop spending money we don't have. President Obama has given us four years of trillion plus deficit. He's making matters worse. He's spending our children into a diminished future. We don't have to stand for that. We're not going to stand for that. November 6th, we're going to change that.

We also need to have free and fair trade so we can make more things in Iowa, make more things here. Sell them overseas, 97 percent of the world's consumers are out of this country. We need to grow and make things in states like Wisconsin, Iowa, the Midwest. If we do that, we'll create jobs.

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BALDWIN: What scene. Paul Ryan. You just hear the shouts and it just made me wonder how large that crowd is. It seemed pretty significant.

We have Peter Hamby on the ground who could talk a little bit more at the top of the hour about what we just heard from Paul Ryan. He's there covering him for us.

We'll ask him also, apparently, there was some sort of scuffle that happened either before or after this Wisconsin representative stood up on that soap box and spoke. So I have a lot of questions. We're going to chew on what he said at the top of the hour with Mr. Peter Hamby.

But now, one country designing a city just for women, no men allowed and it comes in a country ruled by strict Islamic law.

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BALDWIN: More than 100,000 foster children are waited to be adopted in the United States. Today's "CNN Hero" is fighting to find every one of them a family.

After finally winning a 10-year battle to become a parent, David Wing Coverick is uniquely qualified to help other gay Americans fulfill their dreams of parenthood.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was adopted and I felt that I wanted to adopt a kid that needed a home. My son was in foster care for four years. From the minute Michael and I met, I knew we were going to be a family. I thought everything was going great after a month Michael was removed from any house. I was cut off from him.

DAVID WING-KOVARIK, COMMUNITY CRUSADER: Finding that family for a child is nothing short of family. Sometimes families are faced with a barrier because of a myth or misunderstanding causing the kids to stay in the foster care system longer. Be that gay or lesbian individual or couple makes it much harder.

My name is David Wing-Kovarik, I adopted from the foster system. Now I help other gay and lesbian individuals realize their dream of becoming parents. I'm going to make sure you get that family to family kind of support. I've worked hundreds of cases side by side with social workers.

We covered a lot of information last week. I've trained thousands of foster parents. It doesn't matter if you're gay or straight. We do it for free.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He figured out how to get us over that finish line. Our family wouldn't have adopted each other if it hasn't been for David.

KOVARIK: I'm fighting for the right of that child to have that family.

UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Daddy, is tonight movie night?

KOVARIK: It's why I keep doing it every single day.

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BALDWIN: You can nominate your "CNN Hero" by going to cnn.com/heroes.

Forget the men. One country is designing a controversial city just for women. They would run it, live, work in it from the top to the bottom. It's happening in a place run by strict Islamic law. CNN senior international correspondent, Nic Robertson, has the story.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, what the Saudi government is trying to do here is put more women into the work place. Right now, Saudi Arabia stacks up very poorly compared to its regional neighbors, barely 15 percent of women in the work force in Saudi Arabia close to 60 percent here in the neighboring United Arab Emirates.

Why don't they go ahead and just put women on the factory floor in the work force next to women, well, Islamic law doesn't allow for that? That's why Saudi Arabia is spending $130 million to create this women- only work environment.

Up to 50 different businesses they are talking about to get women into the workplace. They are trying to expand the sectors that women can work in as well, textiles, pharmaceuticals and food processing.

Right now, a lot of women in Saudi Arabia have been forced towards the education sector. What is happening? The education sector is full of women working in it and female education, they can't teach boys, of course.

Ninety five percent of women in Saudi Arabia are employed in the government sector. Of those, 85 percent are employed in education. The market is saturated. They are losing many of those people. They are leaving the country to find jobs elsewhere.

But this isn't just about finding employment for the educated women, also hoping to put less educated women into the workplace. Critics will say, Saudi Arabia isn't moving fast.

The leadership would say this slow pace in the future would bring about change empowering women, giving them a role in the workplace empowers them to make more change in the future -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Nic Robertson, thank you so much.

And now to this story, reading all my tweets and so many want to know more about the shooting just about a block off the campus of Texas A&M about two or so hours ago including now some aerial video on the ground.

I can hear the reporter making phone calls as I speak. We're going to talk to Nic Valencia here on the other side of the break. Stay with me.

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BALDWIN: Big banks who repossess properties during the height of the housing bust are finding themselves in some trouble of their own. They're accused of failing to cough up the money to keep these repossessed homes in good condition.

Alison Kosik is live at the New York Stock Exchange. So these homeowner associations in South Florida, they are starting to foreclose on the banks. What hope do they have of ever seeing the money?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Well, let's fast forward because the moral of the story, Brooke, is that the homeowners associations, they are going to get their money. But first, they have to go through a headache and a half to force these banks to pay up and that means lawsuits.

In fact, we spoke to one lawyer in Florida who is pursuing cases like this. In fact, he recovered over $25,000 from Deutsche Bank in one case.

Ninety percent of it is more than 1,100 other cases have ended with the homeowners association getting their money plus legal fees were reimbursed. For them it's worth it because for these homeowners associations, they rely on this money for their revenue -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Is it all odd here that the banks reclaiming properties from people that don't pay up are then now failing to pay up themselves? So have the banks responded.

KOSIK: Yes, ironic, isn't it? So these banks, they don't have any incentive, Brooke, to pay unless they are forced to. There's a group in Florida called "Community Advocacy Network or CAN. They are trying to get a law passed to force the banks to pay sooner.

A spokeswoman from this group said they really need to create a downside, sort of a punishment for these banks who don't pay. But it's much easier said than done. We did reach out to Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan, two of the big banks that were named in some of these high profile cases.

JPMorgan said they are committed to stabilizing communities that have been hit hard by foreclosure that they pay their dues on properties that they own. We haven't heard from Deutsche Bank on this yet -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: All right, Alison, thank you very much.

As we promised here, more news, breaking news coming out of Texas. Nick Valencia has been on the phone with college station police. We're learning as we did before several officers have been shot as well as civilians. Again, this is just about a block off the campus of Texas A&M. That story is next.

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