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One-on-One with Bill Cosby; Western Floods Take More Lives; U.N. Report Expected Monday; Grading Syria; Larry Summers Out of Fed Chairman Race; Alabama Topples Johnny Football

Aired September 15, 2013 - 18:00   ET

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BILL COSBY, ENTERTAINER: To see a black male with his child on the shoulders and holding -- I mean, that means something. And I'm sure this president of the college knows what it feels like to welcoming the fresh people in and look out and see father serious about it, because it's -- it's not difficult to do. And you don't have to just jump up one day. You can ease yourself into it.

Of course, we have great things happening -- graduates of the naval academy, military academy, graduates of all kind of Morehouse and Miles and colleges like that.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Harvard and Yale.

COSBY: By the same token, we also need those people. Go to community college. OK, so you backed up and didn't do well. You quit school but now you find you need that high school credential.

Go to the community college. Get yourself there. Put your body in line. You will -- and I don't like the phrase reinvent yourself, because you never were invented.

LEMON: Right.

COSBY: Just go and sit there and understand you're going to get an education, because that's what happened to me. At age 19 1/2, I just knew that I didn't want to do certain things. And it wasn't what they were doing to me. It's what I wasn't doing. It's a very simple thing.

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LEMON: Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon.

As promised, we are playing my entire interview with Bill Cosby. More of that in a moment.

But first, I want to tell you we are keeping an eye on other big stories of the today. In Colorado, we are being told that the rain is finally easing off. But hundreds of people still remain unaccounted for. And tomorrow is a big day for the crisis in Syria. The U.N. will issue its report on what inspectors found during their chemical weapons probe.

We've got a lot more of those stories just ahead.

But, first, more now from conversation yesterday with Bill Cosby. The legendary entertainer was in Birmingham, Alabama, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of a bombing that killed four little girls. He answers his critics and my question dealing with what some call respectability politics.

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LEMON: These days, many call that respectability politics. And that gets you nowhere, that you're somehow being a good citizen is appeasing the white man because you conduct yourself a certain way. What do you make of this whole idea about respectability politics?

COSBY: Well, I don't know what they're talking about. I don't know what that means. I think it's an excuse because they don't know their history. And when you speak like that, you don't know how people get to a certain point.

For instance, if a person doesn't come to a certain neighborhood, then people say, well, nobody wants to come here. OK. So then when a person comes, then they say, well, will he be back?

So how many times do you have to continue to come back before the people you are trying to help really believe that you're serious. So somewhere in the psyche is, maybe a low self esteem or maybe not wanting to get started or very much like some people who will say, oh, wait, give me -- give me the job first then I'll study to see how to do it. I don't want to have to work for something and then be disappointed and not get it. So I'll just stay in the position I'm in.

LEMON: And there is a difference, though, because in that, you're not saying, that you're going to end racism or discrimination or you're not going to encounter it because you are talking in -- and I don't want to put words in your mouth, about personal responsibility. Those are two difference conversations and two different methods of dealing with things.

COSBY: And the people who say it, the wrong way, know exactly what they're saying. They are protectionists. They are no-grows, who perhaps see themselves maybe out of work. If our people decide to all get together and say, yes, he's right. I got to take care of my kids. Yes, the revolution is in the home. It is here.

You can't keep pointing there if you know who the enemy happens to be, then put yourself in the position to unseat the enemy and become the hometown favorite.

LEMON: You are passionate about that issue and you're passionate about entrepreneurship, about education. And it's the reason you are in Birmingham on this anniversary, the 50th anniversary of the 16th Street Baptist Church, to honor the four little girls, but also to do what? To move what forward in the future? Why are you doing what you're doing? COSBY: We were attacked, all of us, and we have been attacked, all of us. I want fight back. Our criminal justice system in terms of our teenage people, and some cities, if you could walk in and look at how many people are in charge of a kid who's coming in with the suit on and whatever that kid has done or they said he's done, how many people, if they did the job correctly, on the chain, could make the parents of the child feel better? Could -- maybe the kid won't understand it. But the explanations are there.

We have places that kids go to, boys, juvenile. And the director said to me, on this one place, you know, 70 percent of our kids are medicated. OK. Give yourself eight months of taking medication to keep you subdued.

And by the way, I told these young fellows who were incarcerated, if you don't feel right, if you want to talk to somebody, go see the psychologist. Afterwards, this woman came to me and said, thanks a lot. There will be a line all the way around my -- for people to see me. I didn't say anything to her.

But my point is, if you drug these people, and then you release them and then there's no prescription for them to get, to take, to do the same thing, and they go back to the same place. Now about this time, this is when you hear the no-grows jump up and say, why don't you talk about the good things? Why don't you -- because the good thing happened to be taking care of themselves pretty well.

We're trying to help those geniuses, those not geniuses, people who deserve because they are human beings on this earth, in the United States of America. We are trying to get them in a position so that they will understand and want to.

LEMON: Why is it so hard for some people to get that message, though? To hear that message, to receive that message and without lashing out?

COSBY: Well, it's because they feel, I think, I think they feel embarrassed. I think they feel embarrassed, about, you know -- Sammy Davis said something to me one day. We were in a routine. And I told him, I knew something. And he said, no, you don't. I said, yes, I do.

And I said it, and he said, no, that's not the way it goes. And then I said the same thing louder. And he said, Bill, saying it loud don't make it right.

And so, every loud vice you hear yelling about something and saying, well, you just -- you lost us. You became a millionaire. The reason why I'm giving you this information is because I was living in the projects. I was not taking care of myself in terms of managing my education. And once the door opened and I saw, quote-unquote, "the light", I've started to become very successful.

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LEMON: We've got more of my interview with Bill Cosby straight ahead. And he tells me about how that first moment on national television, seeing the all-white studio audience, in an instant he changed his entire routine.

And, they seem eerily reminiscent of Hurricane Katrina, victims of the flooding in Colorado rescued by air. We go live to the Colorado for the latest, next.

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ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Welcome back. I'm Rosa Flores. More of Don's interview with Bill Cosby in just a moment.

But, first, here's the latest on the deadly flooding situation out of Colorado.

Right now in flood covered parts of northern Colorado, search and rescue helicopters are where they don't want to be folks. They're on the ground, which means they're not flying, they're not rescuing, not delivering relief supplies. Heavy rain is keeping them grounded but that may soon change.

We just spoke to a senior National Guard officer who said that the skies are beginning to clear. The incident commander in Larimer County, Colorado, says that more than a thousand people are waiting to be airlifted to drier grounds. Now, once that weather clears, of course, now that's a thousand people in that county alone, which for folks who are familiar, it is in the Ft. Collins area.

Rescue crews say they'll go house to house as soon as they are able to move around safely.

The death toll could be as high as six right now. Officials fear that number will rise when police and national guardsmen getting into neighborhoods and get a more accurate count of those folks that are out there.

Now, CNN's George Howell is live in Boulder, Colorado, right now.

And, George, looking at the picture behind you, it looks like a river there, but you're telling us that that used to be a road just a few hours ago.

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Rosa, absolutely. It used to be a road, now, it is a river, started out as a stream. When the rain started coming down and you look at it now, you can see that there is plenty of debris in this river. I can tell you this, here is the last hour, it seems like the flow has slowed just a bit. That's good news, because we had less rain in the last hour or two. That could mean that we can start seeing things like this subside.

But keep in mind, with the rain fall that we had, Rosa, we will see more communities that are cut off. And that's the challenge. Now with the helicopters are halted, until all of the weather passes, now the helicopter lifts are halted, you may have more people who are waiting on the other side of the situation like this, waiting for either the water to recede or if it's really bad, waiting for, you know, crews to get to them to either help them get to safer ground or to bring them supplies, you know, to help them wait it out. FLORES: And, you know, George, we can't help but just think about the people you are mentioning and the number of unaccounted keeps rising. Right now, it's about 500. I mean, that's just an enormous jump from yesterday. How are officials explaining that?

HOWELL: Right. So, at last check, about 482.

And you could look at it like this. We did have a break in the weather the last day or so. And within that time, perhaps, you know, people were able to charge their cell phones, and maybe they were able to call and ask about other relatives who may have dead cell phones. It is that sort of thing. Some people trying to call to reach out to others who may not be reachable at this point, with, you know, more rain and, situation like this, we could have more people trying to reach more relatives.

You know, is it possible for that number to go up? That is possible. The hope, though, is that as cell phone reception gets better, as phone lines get back on line, people will get in touch with each other and we will see that number. It is quite a significant number. Some 500 people will see that number go down here over the next day or so.

FLORES: All right, George. Thank you so much, it's amazing how technology can play a role. Remember, if you would like to help the victims of those floods, visit our "Impact Your World" page. That's at CNN.com/impact.

And, Don, you can't help it, think about these people, because when you hear those description, it's almost like they are in an island --

LEMON: Right.

FLORES: -- and they can't get to them. So, you can only imagine the fear that they are feeling right now.

LEMON: And, Rosa, I'm from Louisiana. You lived in Louisiana for a long time.

FLORES: Right.

LEMON: And you remember Katrina, 4,000 rescues, 2,000 here. I mean, that's a lot of rescues here. And as National Weather Service said, biblical proportions.

FLORES: Biblical proportions. Absolutely. So, it's scary. We are definitely keeping them in our thoughts and prayers.

LEMON: Welcome to CNN.

FLORES: Thank you. Thank you.

LEMON: Welcome to the broadcast. My mom watched you in Baton Rouge.

FLORES: Oh, I can't wait to meet your mom.

LEMON: We have a connection here. And, you know, my aunt, who is on city council in West Baton Rouge.

FLORES: That's right.

LEMON: Rosa and I are buds, and we share an office. So, it's all good. So, welcome to CNN.

FLORES: Thank you so much.

I've got to say, folks, Don is phenomenal. What you see is what you get. He is good people.

LEMON: Oh, there's lots of love here. Thank you, Rosa. Looking forward to working with you, again. Welcome to the big channel.

All right, more now on my conversation with Bill Cosby.

Today marks the 50th anniversary of a 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama. Four little girls were killed, 22 people injured by the bomb set off by the Ku Klux Klan. Bill Cosby spent much of the weekend in Birmingham and attended a special remembrance there. He told me why he believes it's so important to never forget tragic events like the church bombing in 1963.

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COSBY: What America has to understand, is that some people get embarrassed about what happened. Same way if I talk about something, empowerment, and they can do it themselves. There are people who don't want to see these things talked about again. They weren't there. They -- I didn't do it. Yes, I'm white, but please, do we have to talk about it.

It's painful. But we have to really get to this, so that if you do it the correct way, which is show your children what happened. Tell your children, this is not our fault. But this is what happened then. Look at these faces. There's a sickness in these faces.

LEMON: I want to get back -- can I get back to 1963? Because as I talk, my researchers write, on August 6, 1963, you were giving your first appearance, national television appearance, on "The Tonight Show" with guest host Allan Sherman, who ended up producing your first comedy album. So, you have the march on Washington going on, you have the bombing of 16th Street Baptist Church. And then you were breaking barriers in the world as well.

What was -- and people think you didn't live through that. Some would assume you didn't live through that. But you did. What was happening on your mind then?

COSBY: I had decided that I, as a writer, and a monologist, was going to go on, and show people, I am the antithesis of what Hollywood is putting out for people to see, about us. In 1963, I step out and I walk out on that stage, and I decide not to do the piece I was going to do, but just look at audience, give them a chance to think, because they know that this black face is going to talk about race. And I said to this audience, I want to talk to you about karate. Later, every time I'm writing, I'm writing from my black experience without jumping at you saying, I'm black. Really?

No, this is the way I am. This is the way we grew up. This is the way we talk. This is the way we move.

And so, 1963, as well as 1863, when Republicans led the charge, to free us as abolitionists, 1963, bam! Here's the march. And later on, as time goes, we see the people evolve.

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LEMON: My interview with Bill Cosby, you will see more here on CNN.

Monday is a big day. The U.N. will issue its report on what was found during its chemical weapons probe in Syria. I'm going to ask my panel what we can expect next. But first this --

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LEMON: We're tracking developments this hour in the crisis in Syria. After his meeting today with Israel's prime minister, Secretary of State John Kerry meets tomorrow in Paris with leaders from France and Britain to discuss the agreement hammered out to locate and destroy Syria's chemical weapons.

So, let's talk about this with our senior international correspondent Nick Paton Walsh. And in Washington, CNN military analyst and retired Air Force lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona.

Let me go to Nick first.

Nick, because the U.N. has been sidelined for much of this crisis, criticize for inaction, paralysis, Saturday's agreement expected to deliver tomorrow's report August 21st. What do you think the role is going to be for the U.N.? Is it going to make the U.N.'s role larger?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Tomorrow, it has a substantial role because that's when the inspectors report comes out. In fact, we've just heard first official confirmation from the spokesman for the secretary general of the U.N., that that report will come out tomorrow morning and the secretary will talk to reporters at 12:50. So, we're going to hear whether or not chemical weapons, probably what kind of chemical weapon was used, and if it's detailed enough, indications that may suggest who is behind it. But that's not the job of the report itself.

Plus, the U.N. is taking a big role this week, because even though the agreement in Geneva had a lot of meat to it, it still needs a U.N. resolution behind it, to kind of enshrined in international law.

LEMON: Lieutenant Colonel Francona, is this a "this is it" moment with the report, findings and all of this? Is this the moment?

LT. COL. FRANCONA (RET), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: I think it is another step in the case they're building. But I think Nick is right here. The framework only sets up, you know, a guideline for where we would like the human resolution to go. But I think the key will be what the resolution actually said. Is it going to be Chapter 7 resolution? Is it going to include the threat of the use of force? And if it doesn't, is the United States going to make it clear to the Syrian and Russians that we intend to enforce this and hold them to the time line?

And so, I think the report is just the first step. I think the real action comes at the end of the week.

LEMON: You know, Colonel, they're going to be searching for chemical weapons in the middle of civil war. The war itself has, if anything, intensified in recent days. You have been saying that here on CNN for a couple of days now.

How does a wider war affect the effort to secure those chemical weapons?

FRANCONA: Yes, you would think intuitively that it's in the interest of the opposition to have a cease-fire or to adhere to a cease-fire. Let inspectors come in and remove these weapons because these weapons are a scourge. They've been used against the opposition.

But the opposition is not one unified body as we have been talking about. There's a lot of disparate groups that make this up. Some of them might go for that, but there are other groups, particularly on the Islamist side, that might want to get their hands on the weapons or just might want to throw a wrench into the process.

So, I think that the inspectors have their -- they've got a real challenge ahead of them. I don't know where we're going to find these inspectors willing to do this. The U.N. has the history of not putting people into a non-permissive environment. LEMON: Nick, I see you shaking your ahead there.

WALSH: No, it's a good point he raises here and really, it's going to come down to, does the Syrian government have full control and easy access to all the weapons that it has and all the weapons that it declares? They're going to soon find out, if they'll try to say, well, actually, some of that is in rebel territory and we lost hold of that.

But it seems as thought this American-Russian agreement is being written in some way with the belief that pretty much the government can control this, pretty far, pretty effectively.

LEMON: Nick, let's talk about the people here, because you know, chemical weapon aside, innocent people dying in Syria every day. Will this agreement bring an end to the violence?

WALSH: No, at all. No. I mean it will stop chemical weapons, perhaps if that happens, and the all the reasons we've discussed. That's a long shot anyway.

But one interesting thing has happened. Since this renewed focus has come out on Syria, where, you know, many people who are almost ignoring it for perhaps two years, the death toll it seems has gone down a little bit in the last couple of weeks. Perhaps because the Assad regime was busy doing something else, unable to use its assets, caused the casualties, it has been in the past few weeks.

But something has changed slightly. And I think the level of scrutiny now on this particular conflict may it see a change in months ahead. And we have to (INAUDIBLE) that reduces the number of women and children and noncombatants who get killed every day in horrible circumstances, as it's happening.

LEMON: So, because of the level of focus, we may see a change. But again, similar question to you, Colonel Francona, even with all of this -- does this end the violence? What does this do to reduce violence in Syria, anything?

FRANCONA: I don't think it does anything. I think it's exactly right. This is going to continue until there's more pressure from the outside to get these two sides apart and get on the path to some diplomatic solution. But when you -- when you raise that, when you talk to the people involved, there is just so much hatred right now on both sides. I don't think we're there yet. I mean, the chemical weapons use was kind of a catalyst that we might be able to move this forward, but I tell you, the animosity on both sides is just something I've never seen before.

WALSH: It's a very good point because the whole thrust of this, even the congressional resolution, the discussions in Geneva, are trying to get people to talk, which is fine. The Assad regime says it's ready, but the opposition don't want to because of the use of chemical weapons. There's a huge gulf there.

The rebels simply don't think it's worth talking right now because they're not talking, they think, with someone they can trust.

LEMON: All right, gentlemen, stand by, more discussion a little bit later. Thank you very much.

Big news today as a man who may been the next Federal Reserve chairman says count me out. The political and financial impact of this move coming up.

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LEMON: Some breaking news that we've been telling you about here on CNN from Washington. Former Treasury secretary, Lawrence Summers, won't be the new Federal Reserve chair. Summers had been seen as a top candidate to replace Ben Bernanke. But withdrew his name from consideration today.

In accepting Summers' decision, the president called him a critical member of his team during the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression and said he'll continue to seek Summers' guidance in the future.

So let's talk about Larry Summers and some other issues with our two favorite analysts. And I'm only saying that because they're here. Kidding.

Ana Navarro is a CNN political commentator and a Republican strategist. L.Z. Granderson --

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: You say that to all the analysts.

LEMON: -- is a CNN commentator. No, Ana, we have a special love for you guys.

Larry Summers, a respected guy. But he also has his critics. Is this going to make it a lot harder for President Obama to choose the next Fed chairman? First to you, L.Z.?

L.Z. GRANDERSON, CNN COMMENTATOR: I don't think so. I think because President Obama is a smart man, he already knew that the writing was kind of on the wall so as soon as that name was put out there, I think if anything it's just an embarrassment. You know, they had a lot to get passed because it was pretty well known that this was his number one choice and members of his own party rejected that choice. And so it's embarrassing.

But I mean, there's a lot of bigger things going on. And I know this is a big job. And I'm not trying to say it's not a big job. But given the issue of Syria right now, I don't think this is going to be a huge as hindrance as if we weren't talking about possible war.

LEMON: Miss Navarro?

NAVARRO: Look, we don't know exactly what happened. You know, I'm spending this semester in Harvard and I can tell you that he's got a pretty good gig going here. Larry Summers. There's also other qualified candidates. This looked like it was going to turn into a gender war. And so, you know, I think it was a personal decision by Larry Summers. I'm not sure that -- that it wasn't his own decision to take himself out because why go through this?

There were several senators -- and folks in Congress who had come out against him in recent days. And he's been there, done that. You know, so he -- I think President Obama just blanks slate now to put somebody that will pass muster and that will have no issues in Congress and who wants to do the job and can do the job. And I think there's plenty of those.

LEMON: All right. And as L.Z. so rightly pointed out, this is a big job. But all eyes are on Syria right now. So let's talk Syria.

President Obama on TV this morning, defending the new Syria agreement, but John McCain calls the deal a loser.

Ana, your guy, McCain, is he right?

NAVARRO: I think he is very concerned as are others. First of all, this is still very murky. All right. We haven't seen the writing. We haven't seen what deal looks like. And I think John McCain and others, like Lindsey Graham, and many others are very concerned that there's no peace to this deal. That there's no credible use of force that in order to be able to use force, which is the stick you need to get the Syrians and the Russians to do what they need to do, you know, you need to go back to the Security Council.

You need to go back to the U.N. in order to be able to do that, where Russia sits and can veto it. So I think they are expressing a natural skepticism. We are here in bed with Assad. And with Putin. Who are not exactly our best bedfellows. So, you know, a degree of skepticism is I think a healthy thing. Everybody is hoping this works. Everybody is hoping that Assad and Putin get struck by some sort of, you know, miraculous lightning -- where they have a change of mind and they -- and they abide by this. But if they don't, there needs to be some way of enforcement.

LEMON: L.Z., this was a -- really a scathing criticism of the president by Joe Klein in "TIME" magazine. He described the president's overall performance on Syria as this. This is the quote, "He willingly jumped into a bear trap of his own creation. In the process he has damaged his presidency and weakened the nation's standing in the world. It has been one of the more stunning and inexplicable displays of presidential incompetence that I have ever witnessed."

Your reaction?

GRANDERSON: I think that's a little bit of a hyperbole, in my opinion. I think if we comb through history, we can certainly find higher levels of incompetency. But what I will say is this. We need to look at this entire conversation through a much wider lens because this is not really about Syria. This is about the way that we run our politics. And this is what I mean.

Two years ago President Obama pretty much kept the nation at arm's length away from the civil war that was happening in Syria. He was criticized for it. What happened last year? Midst of reelection campaign. And his opponent was constantly beating him and beating him by saying he was weak because he wasn't doing something about Syria. So what did he do as a result? He said some things. Some things that he now is in a position to have to back up.

This is what really happened. This is why we are in the position that we're in. Because he was kind of cornered politically during the campaign to say some things he may not necessary wanted to say and now he has to find a way to back it up.

I'm not saying that's incompetence, I'm saying that's politics. And we've allowed domestic politics to drastically interfere with our -- with our international politics. And now we've got to clean this mess up.

The truth is, is that Syria violated international law. That's all he really needed to say. It is the world's red line because 98 percent of the population signed on to this law. Unfortunately the way that he's phrased it put him in front of that conversation and now he's got to deal with it.

I'm not willing to call it incompetence but it is -- he got tripped up in a political tailspin, that's for sure.

LEMON: And I'm up against a hard break here. Hyperbole from Joe Kline?

NAVARRO: Actually I had lunch with Joe Kline earlier this week. And even though Joe Klein, the interesting thing is, that Joe Kline actually agrees with President Obama on the overall policy. But it's the style.

Listen, today in that interview, President Obama said, I've been consistent. When he says that he's been consistent is because he knows that he's been perceived as inconsistent. When he says, don't worry about style, is because he knows it looks messy, it looks like vacillation. It has not looked like there is determination. It hasn't looked pretty. The last two weeks have not been pretty for President Obama and his team. They have not acted in concert. They have not shown clarity, or vision or strategy.

LEMON: Yes, yes. All right guys. Thank you very much. Short on time here. We'll be right back, everyone.

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LEMON (voice-over): Here now are five things you need to know for your week ahead.

Salvaging a ship wreck. Engineers will attempt to raise the cruise liners Costa Concordia on Monday. The crippled vessel has been sitting in the waters off Italy for nearly a year. Once the ship is upright, it will be towed and dismantled.

Tuesday is the day fans of the video game "Grand Theft Auto" have been waiting for. The fifth edition of the game goes on sale at midnight. Previous versions have shattered retail sales record and pushed the limit on what's shown in video games. "Grand Theft Auto V" includes scenes of torture, pot smoking, cocaine snorting, and even -- get this -- a brief instance of necrophilia.

Also on Tuesday, in the market for a beach house? Johnny Versace's mansion in Miami is headed to the auction block. The estate features 10 bedroom, 11 baths, and a pool decorated with gold. Bidding starts at $25 million. The legendary designer was shot and killed there in 1997.

Financial markets will be watching the developments coming out of the Fed's meeting on Wednesday. We could see interest rates move when the Fed chair Ben Bernanke holds a post-meeting press conference.

Willie Nelson, Neil Young, John Mellencamp and Dave Matthews headlined Farm Air on Saturday. The annual concert started by Nelson back in 1985 has raised over $43 million while helping farmers keep their land.

And that's your "Weekly Five."

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LEMON: Former Treasury secretary Lawrence Summers -- Larry Summers has withdrawn his name as a candidate for Federal Reserve chairman.

Joining me now is CNN's Richard Quest.

Richard, what happened?

RICHARD QUEST, HOST, CNN'S QUEST MEANS BUSINESS: Larry Summers basically realized that any form of nomination, in his words, was going to be acrimonious. It was going to divert away from the president's agenda and frankly he came to the proceedings with such an enormous amount of baggage from his previous term in the Treasury and the financial economic adviser that Professor Summers decided it was best not to go forward. He's fallen on his sword, so that the president, who is believed to actually wanted Summers for the job does not have to do the job for him.

LEMON: Richard, what's the impact if any on the market?

QUEST: I don't think there will be much impact because the difference between Larry Summers and the frontrunner, Johnny Yellin, the vice chair at the Fed, we can talk about it in small increments on who's a bit more devilish and who's a bit more one side or the other. Fundamentally they are very similar on macroeconomics. There may be a small hiccup in the (INAUDIBLE), nothing that anybody really will get too concerned about.

What is interesting now is who the president puts forward? Does he go for Johnny Yellin? Does he try and convince him to do job, having seemingly or is it back to square one to find a new name?

LEMON: Richard Quest. "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS." Thank you very much, Richard.

We'll be right back, everyone.

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LEMON: There is no doubt who is number one in college football, it's the Alabama Crimson Tide. Let's discuss with Terence Moore. He's a sports contributor to CNN.com and a columnist for MLB.com.

Terence, Alabama scored 35 unanswered points against Texas A&M yesterday to come from behind and beat the Aggies and quarterback Johnny Manziel, 49-42. How impressive was Alabama?

TERENCE MOORE, CNN.COM SPORTS CONTRIBUTOR: This was very impressive. And, Don, so impressive that Alabama may never lose again. At least not this year. OK?

You look at that schedule really the only team that can beat them in the first week of November when LSU comes to Tuscaloosa and that is not going to happen. This is an Alabama team that has won three of the national --

LEMON: Wait, wait, wait. Wait.

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When LSU comes to Tuscaloosa is not going to happen. You know I'm an LSU Tiger.

MOORE: It's not going to happen. I knew you were going to catch that, Don. I mean -- they can make the game close but you look at the -- I mean, they've won the national championship through the last four years. And there's nothing that shows they're not going to win four out of five. Because I'll tell you, they are loaded at every single position. And no team has been this way in 20, 30, 40 years.

LEMON: What about A&M quarterback Johnny Football? I mean, he led an upset of Alabama last year. How did he do it?

MOORE: Well, you look at what he almost did yesterday. OK? This is a guy yesterday, as was the cast last year, he's just has throws and scrambles that are other worldly. Yes, this guy is crazy off the field. But on the field, he is spectacular. And I was just trying to figure the best way to describe him, Don.

He kind of looks like a combination of, say, Fran Tarkenton -- and say, maybe the flying Walendas perhaps. And there's a very good chance that he could become only the second player ever to win multiple Heisman trophies. The only other time that's been done was in the mid 1970s with Archie Griffin at Ohio State.

LEMON: Terence, I have a question for you. It's probably going to take longer than the time that we have but I'm going to ask you.

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Let's take race and talk about NASCAR here. It's a real mess. A chase for the cup, got under way today with 13 drivers instead of the usual 12 because NASCAR added Jeff Gordon. It's pretty confusing here but it has to do with a conspiracy by two teams last weekend, to make sure one of their drivers made the chase and a separate incident involving another driver who spun his car on purpose. Can you explain all of this or any of this?

MOORE: Two words. Typical NASCAR. Listen, NASCAR was founded in the late 1940s and it was based on shooting, illegal everything, illegal tires, oversized engines, loose bumpers that would fall up so it can help you race better. You know, this is what NASCAR loves. The only reason this got a lot of publicity is because NASCAR panicked.

Everybody was complaining about it. So they did something they shouldn't have done, they changed the rules in the middle of a season. You should never do that.

LEMON: All right.

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MOORE: There's no way it's going to help them, though, because they get all this publicity, attendance has been falling the last two years at NASCAR.

LEMON: Yes.

MOORE: You know, as it goes saying, I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name correctly. They love it. Deep down.

LEMON: I got to go. Thank you. We'll be right back.

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LEMON: Fifty years ago today, during the middle of a church service, a Ku Klux Klan bomb ripped through the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. Four little girls were killed. The girls were each posthumously given the Congressional Gold Medal awarded by President Obama to their surviving family members.

And I spoke to the mother of one of the girls. You see her there with the president.

Much has been said about how positive the family stayed after the death of Denise McNair. They were an inspiration to many. I asked her mom, what inspired her to lead her family in that way.

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MAXINE MCNAIR, DAUGHTER KILLED IN 1963 BOMBING: You had to have a grandma like mine.

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She didn't take crap from anybody. And you had to do right because it aright to do right. That was one of her favorite expressions. And so as a result of that, a lot of my attitude was based on that premise. That's the only thing I can say. I often wondered what made me choose the attitude that I have, and that the conclusion I came to.

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LEMON: So much more with the McNair family on CNN.com as well as my interview with Bill Cosby as well. And details of the legacy of that church bombing.

I'm Don Lemon. Stay with CNN tonight. A great lineup for you. Good night.