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Denver Bronco coach John Fox is now in a Charlotte hospital awaiting surgery; "Saturday Night Live" accused of not having a diverse casts; Yahoo!, Google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon; President Barack Obama is in Virginia; Tatyana McFadden won in the New York City marathon in the wheelchair division; Two Kenyans win the New York city marathon; Mayor Rob Ford took to the airways to respond to allegations that he has seen on video smoking crack cocaine
Aired November 03, 2013 - 17:00 ET
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. It is Sunday evening, thanks for joining us, 5:00 here in the East. Grizzly new details are emerging right now. About that Los Angeles Airport shooting. Prosecutors say the shooter fired at point-blank range at TSA officer Gerardo Hernandez who crumpled to the floor. The suspect walked away, rode up an escalator turned around and saw bloody Hernandez squirming on the floor. And prosecutors say the suspect came back and shot Hernandez again killing him.
The FBI says five people were shot, including the suspected gunman, Paul Ciancia, who is in critical condition at a hospital right now. Two other TSA officers were wounded and treated in hospitals and released. 29-year-old high school teacher, Brian Luther (ph) is in fair condition. He was shot in the leg.
CNN's Stephanie Elam live outside the Los Angeles international airport right now.
God, Stephanie. This story is just horrific. You just spoke with a passenger who witnessed the shooting, what did the passenger say?
STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Don. This man came back to pick up his luggage. Not just the ones that he had checked, but the ones that they had abandoned his whole family to run when the shooting started to taking to place. He said he heard gunshot. There is a pause so, he stood up and look. And this what he said he saw.
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SCOTT GREENE, WITNESSES SHOOTING: We are up in the security at the time of the shooting. And We heard the initial gunshots and everybody in security hit the ground. A lot of folks were scrambling forward, (INAUDIBLE) also. And there was a pause and so I looked down the escalator. I saw the gunman. He had his gun, 395, on the wall there and he shot him twice. So I was kind of knelt down and he ran up the escalator. And I saw him at the escalator. He yelled something. And then after that, I hit the ground.
(END VIDEO CLIP) ELAM: And he said that it took hours for him to reunite with his family. He said after he saw him shooting at this man in the ground, that he went out one door, his wife went out another door and they all walked back to their car. But it wasn't until around 5:00 in the evening, Don, until they were reunited.
LEMON: Oh, my gosh. You know, is it the sixth busiest airports there. The shooting has brought up a lot of security concerns at LAX. Is LAX expecting to make changes now that the air port is fully opened?
ELAM: They say that they're reviewing their procedures. In recent months, they did change the way they had staffed some of the police officers. Instead of taking them from behind security lines and putting some of them in front, because they say the most dangerous area is from the curb until you get through security. So, they said they are going to look with their partners and how they have handled this and other protocol to see if they need to change anything. Needless to say in light of all that has happened, they have stepped up security at this point, Don.
LEMON: All right, Stephanie Elam, live at LAX. Stephanie, thank you very much.
Next hour, I want to tell our viewers that we're going to talk with former L.A. police chief Bernard Parks about security at the Los Angeles international airport. Parks is now a Los Angeles city councilman.
And also, we're going to talk about a letter sent to TSA chief John Pistole raising concerns about security at LAX over a year ago.
In the meantime, other news concerning the mayor of Toronto embroiled in a crack smoking scandal goes on the record.
And just hours ago, Mayor Rob Ford took to the airways to respond to allegations that he has seen on video smoking crack cocaine.
CNN's Nick Valencia joins me now in Atlanta.
Nick, this is the first time that Mayor Ford has responded to these shocking allegations. What does he say?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, it is more what he didn't say that's really the headline here. He apologized for unspecified mistakes. We can only assume that this has something to do with what happened earlier this week. The Toronto police chief came out and said that they had digital evidence, video that shows the mayor of Toronto smoking from a glass crack pipe. Now, allegations of drug abuse surfaced in May after three reporters said that they saw video of Mayor Rob Ford smoking from a glass pipe that he acted erratically afterwards. Take a listen, Don, what the mayor had to say about this video on his radio program on Sunday.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MAYOR ROB FORD, TORONTO: I want the police chief, Bill Blare, to release this video for every single person in the city to see. That is the right thing to do. And, chief, I'm asking you to release this video now. Whatever this video shows, whatever this video shows, folks, Toronto residents deserve to see it. And people need to judge for themselves what they see on this video.
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VALENCIA: So the mayor was also featured prominently into an investigation on gang activity. A lot of pages redacted, Don. But what evidence was shown by police shows photos of the mayor hanging out with alleged gang members. Also, what police say is in front of a crack house he was spotted out at St. Patrick's. Also, last year, visibly intoxicated according to witnesses. This is just really been a headache for the mayor since these allegation of a drug abuse first surfaced back in May -- Don.
LEMON: But he still does have some supporters. I have seen some people supporting him saying, you know, they rather have them in the alternative. Is he refusing to resign? Are we seeing support for him plummet? What is this support for him?
VALENCIA: You know, this might be most interesting detail out of all of this. It is in fact, local media in Toronto is reporting that his approval ratings have gone up five percent. So, he has a lot of support there locally. Of course, some people that are adversaries of the mayor. But he's really digging in here and saying that he's not going to resign. And that he wants the people of Toronto to decide whether or not he should continue running the city reelection 2014, October 27th -- Don.
LEMON: Interesting one to watch.
Nick Valencia in Atlanta. Nick, thank you for that.
VALENCIA: You bet.
LEMON: New York City marked the triumphant return of its world famous marathon today with cheering crowds, tight security and thousands of runners. The scene was much different from last year.
That's when superstorm Sandy swept away the great race.
Our Alexandra Field has highlights from today's long awaited race -- Alexandra.
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ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Two Kenyans win the New York city marathon. Each of them receiving a $100,000 prize. For the men, Geoffrey Mutai won the race with the finish time of 2:08:23. For the women, it was Kenya's Priscah Jeptoo with the time of 2:25:07.
But it's apparent the track medalist who made history in this race. Tatyana McFadden is paralyzed from the waist down. She was born with Spina bifida (ph). She won in the New York City marathon in the wheelchair division. She also won her races this year with the marathons in London, Boston and Chicago. This victory makes her the first athlete ever to win the grand slam. That's all four major marathons in a single season.
Last year, New York City race was cancelled because of superstorm Sandy. This year, we stepped up security following the stacks at the Boston marathon. Fifteen hundred cameras were positioned along the parade route. Scuba divers helps secure the city shoreline. Police helicopters hovered over the race and bomb-sniffing dogs were sent out to high traffic areas.
Alexandra Field, CNN. New York.
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LEMON: This is what when you get to wear this. Can you bring that down? Thank you. Can we put that down. We will get to that. Thanks you.
This is what you get when you actually win the race or go to the race or run the race? Tammy Lubey (ph), who works here at CNN -- How long? 4:42. Congratulations. I'm going to steal this. I need to be warmth. I'm kidding.
Congratulations. There are several people here at CNN who participate in the race, including someone else who did. And we want to tell you about, her name is Paralympics medalist Tatyana McFadden. An incredible achievement in itself.
We're going to learn more about the tremendous obstacle she overcame to complete this race. And you're going to want to stick around for more on her story next hour.
And for everyone I saw out today, congratulations to you. You're going to want to see her story a little bit later on here on CNN.
In the meantime, President Barack Obama, you see over my left shoulder there, hits the road to try to help a fellow Democrat become governor. But he wasn't the only star in the campaign trail. a live report is next on that.
And later, "Saturday Night Live" accused of not having a diverse task. So, how does it show handled the, perhaps, unwanted attention? By mocking itself, of course.
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LEMON: Mitt Romney says President Obama's dishonesty about Obamacare could destroy the president's second term. Romney, the former Republican presidential nominee and Massachusetts' governor says Obama failed to learned lessons from health care reforms in Massachusetts. Romney talked to NBC's "Meet the Press."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think the key thing that the president is trying to get away from and that is that he told people they could keep their insurance and that was not the truth. And whether you like the model of Obamacare or not, the fact that the president sold out of a basis that was not true has undermine the foundation of his second term. I think it is rotting it away.
As Massachusetts teaches some important lessons, some states are not going to want to follow. One lesson is health insurance is more expensive in Massachusetts than anywhere else in the country.
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LEMON: Romney says Obamacare is a quote "one-sized fits all plan" and propose on states. He believes states should craft their own health care plans.
Well, the healthcare.gov web site is back up and running after a last night's planned outage. The department of health and human services says the site was down for extended maintenance to correct problems. The outage lasted about 12 hours. Also, you can use a toll free number to sign up for health insurance.
President Obama weighs into Virginia politics today campaigning for Democratic gubernatorial hopeful Terry McAuliffe. He is in a close watch race with tea party favorite Republican Ken Cuccinelli. Obama joins former president Bill Clinton and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton who have also lent a hand to the McAuliffe campaign this week.
CNN's Erin McPike on the campaign trail in Arlington.
So Erin, Virginia just one of 50 states, why does this matter so much?
ERIN MCPIKE, CNN GENERAL ASSIGNMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, the Virginia's governor's race is always an off-year election. And it is always the year before the midterm election. So political watchers on both sides of the aisle pay close attention to this race for what kinds of trends it can show them leading into the midterm elections. And right now, Democrats are absolutely hammering Republicans over the government shutdown that happened last month.
So, take a listen to what President Obama said earlier today when he was trying to link Ken Cuccinelli who is the state attorney general here in Virginia to all Republicans for the shutdown.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You've seen an extreme faction of the Republican party that has been shown again and again and again that they're willing to hijack the entire party and the country and the economy and grind progress to an absolute halt if they don't get a hundred percent of what they want.
Now this isn't just speculation. We just saw it last month. Here, in Virginia, you felt the pain of the first government shutdown in 17 years.
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MCPIKE: Now, what's interesting about President Obama's remarks, is that he didn't mention Obamacare at all. Now, on the other side of the aisle, Republicans have been trying to hammer all Democrats over Obamacare and Ken Cuccinelli has been campaigning with a number of high-profile Republicans and talking about that. But -- and Ken Cuccinelli has also said if you like Obamacare, you should vote for McAuliffe now. Democrats say that they've been leading in the polls and Terry McAuliffe has led every single pole in this case since mid- July. So, they think that their side works and they plan on circulating some of those videos of Ken Cuccinelli saying just that on Wednesday morning, should he win -- Don.
LEMON: Well, we will see Wednesday morning.
You know, fresh off of her "SNL," you know, host job last night, Kerry Washington is out on the trail, as well, right?
MCPIKE: She was. And that was actually impressive I would say because I fell asleep watching SNL last night, Don. So she was able to make it from New York to Washington today. But that she is in Washington quite a bit, actually. She is very politically active. And she was talking about the women's vote, which is very important to Democrats, especially here in northern Virginia as they try to turn out voters. Women are a very important part of that, Don.
LEMON: Yes. It was just a short little plane ride, though. So, we can see how she could make it. But she must have been awfully sleepy.
Thank you, Erin, appreciate it.
MCPIKE: Of course.
LEMON: Next, allegations are spying by the NSA. You have heard about the country's making claims. Now, reports that the NSA cracked Google servers, meaning millions of users, including you and me, may have been spied on, our e-mails, our photos. We're talking about it straight ahead.
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LEMON: A couple of major Internet power houses are extremely upset with the U.S. government this weekend. Google and Yahoo! both took swings at the National Security Agency after reports suggested that the NSA has been secretly collecting personal data from millions of online users. The NSA says it's simply not true. But this isn't helping the already shaking relationship between hi-tech companies and the government.
I want to bring in now Scott Cleland. He is here. He is a security analyst, a security expert. He can be an analyst as well and former U.S. government communications official.
Scott, thank you so much. Yahoo!, Google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. What's their biggest fear? What's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with Google accounts?
SCOTT CLELAND, PRESIDENT, PRECURSOR LLC: Well, I think, you know, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. So, if the government is breaking into Americans accounts, potentially in America, they shouldn't be doing that.
LEMON: So tell us about -- tell us about this drawing that was leaked along with some other Edward Snowden documents. I mean, does it show how the NSA broke into Google?
CLELAND: Yes, think of Google as having multiple data centers around the world. And what apparently, it did is, the fiber optic connections between those big super data centers, they tabbed into. They put a clip on or had a way to, you know, monitor what was going through those fiber optic cables. And you know, that's something we've learned from Snowden that they've been doing around the world.
But it's particularly disturbing that it's done with Google because Google is unique. It's the only entity in the world that has a mission to collect all the world's information, that's public and private information. So, it is a unique treasure throw. Remember, the NSA is only collecting information about people that they think are a threat to the United States and to others. Google has a mission to collect all information.
LEMON: Yes. So, Scott, some of the biggest names in high-tech are now working with the Obama administration to get healthcare.gov working again, Oracle and Google. I mean, what does this say about the government's handle on technology?
CLELAND: Well, I think it was obviously a black eye. You know, something this big should have been rolled out with a lot more testing. And, you know, anybody that's in the business knows that you don't wait until the last two weeks to test something that has three separate parts that you have to put together. And so, they're bringing in a lot of tech experts, Google and others. And you know, it's interesting, Google is involved because they're involved in everything. So, I'm not surprised.
LEMON: Yes.
All right, Scott Cleland. I'm used to saying Scott McClelan (ph) who is over at the White House.
So, Scott Cleland, thank you very much. I appreciate you joining us here on CNN.
CLELAND: Thank you very much.
LEMON: All right. The controversial stop and frisk policy back on in New York City. It is back following a judge's ruling. We are discussing that next.
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LEMON: So, one of the most controversial police programs in New York City is not going away, at least not for now. I'm talking about stop and frisk. It allows police officers to question and frisk people if they see a suspicious, even if they haven't done anything wrong. Critics say it promotes racial profiling. Supporter say it cuts down on crime. A federal appeals court this week blocked a ruling that called the program unconstitutional, which means stop and frisk is still alive and well in New York City. And it's certainly something worth talking about on television., a non-judgmental conversation that we had. We had a terrific one about stop and frisk right here on CNN yesterday. And I want you to see all of it in case you missed it.
I had a retired New York city officer with me as well as a former prisoner and public policy advocate who does not believe that stop and frisk does anything helpful for the city's black and Hispanic communities. Here it is. Watch.
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GLENN MARTIN, FORMER PRISONER: Zero evidence to show that stop and frisk works. That it's reduced crime, that it's been effective in getting guns off the street. There is recent research, however, that clearly shows that it diminishes public safety by diminishing police legitimacy. Every time a young person of color is stopped, according to a very institute of justice report. There's an eight percent less chance of them calling the police when they actually witness a crime.
LEMON: Lou, what do you think? Does the program saves lives?
LOU PALUMBO, RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENT: Absolutely. And I think the fact that we went through an era that culminated with 2600 homicide a year, that were reduced to roughly 500 through the use of stop and frisk supports the need for the tool. I think what we really need to address is how the tool is implemented and possibly revisiting as aggressive a need we had with 2600 homicides to support it. We are down to 500. Maybe, we need to revisit exactly how further we are. But I think it's irrefutable statistically that the individuals that benefit from the program the most, the young, black American males.
LEMON: He says there's no evidence to the case that young black males and Hispanic males benefit most from stop and frisk.
PALUMBO: Well, that is simply is not correct. You just really have to revisit the city of New York and the '80s and '90s in particular and take a look at the individuals that would have --.
LEMON: Glen,, he makes a very good point.
I live in a neighborhood that was now, you know, it has been (INAUDIBLE), that it was crime infested for a long time as was the entire city for awhile here in New York City. If you go to some of these neighborhoods and if you talk to some of my neighbors, some of these old ladies of all ethnicities who have lived there forever, they welcome stop and frisk. They think, they are under the impression, rightfully, wrongfully so that stop and frisk actually helped their neighborhoods lower crime in 10, 20, 30 years.
MARTIN: Yes.
I don't think it's fair to compare where we are today in New York or anywhere in the country to the 1980s and 1990s when we were in the middle of the crack epidemic. We were not enjoying the economy that we enjoyed over the last ten to 15 years or so. The fact of the matter is that those people, those communities who support stop and frisk, have been sold a poor bill of (INAUDIBLE), many other ways to get to public safety as oppose to racial profiling which is what stop and frisk is here in New York.
LEMON: How is it racial profiling?
MARTIN: Look at the data. Look at the amount of people stopped, the majority are people of color. And in about 85 percent of the cases, nothing has found. So, that's hundreds of thousands of innocent young black men, Latino men and women stopped in New York City because essentially color, the color of a person's skin has now equating to a reason to stop people on the street.
PALUMBO: Well, I just want to say one thing to you so that we are clear about this. There's nothing in it for a white policeman to approach a minority and express interest in searching them because the immediate response is you are doing it because I'm black or you are doing it because I'm Latino. The simple truth of the matter is the concentration of shootings that occur in the city occur in a particular area, for example, like Brooklyn north or the precincts in the Bronx.
So, if you are going to talk to this thing factually, you have to acknowledge the fact the majority of the shootings occur in these communities.
MARTIN: But Lou, it's not fear to talk about communities that have high crimes as if the entire community is committing crimes. Even in communities that have the most significant amount of crime, very small amounts of people are engaged in that criminal activity. And idea that you do blanket policing across the board is going to serve the diminishing --
LEMON: I just spoke to a profiler for the former FBI profiler. They profile a certain type of serial killers. They are starting a profile now and people who going into airports considering what happened in LAX. There are profiles for different types of activities, criminal or otherwise. So, if a certain number of people or certain demographic, I'm just being devil's advocate here, if a certain demographic is committing most of the crimes, then why not profile that demographic? That's the question.
MARTIN: I don't think it's a fair place to start. If you look at the statistics, people commit crime in proportion in representation in society. If you stood in bay ridge New York and any other white neighborhood and did as much stop and frisk as you did in Harlem, New York where I'm from, you would come up with a ton of arrests as result also.
LEMON: That's a good point.
PALUMBO: But the need in those communities doesn't support the tactics. That's the problem. We don't have a concentration of shootings in bay ridge the way we do in Brooklyn. We don't have a concentration of shooting in bay Ridge the way we do in the Bronx.
But I do want to ask you just one question, acknowledging that we have a homicide problem and a gun problem, can you give me the tactic to get the gun off the street?
MARTIN: Well, you have to ask what's happening in Bay Ridge to keep the gun shootings down that's different in other communities.
PALUMBO: You're right.
MARTIN: So Mayor Bloomberg, obviously, is a big supporter of stop and frisk. It's one of his hallmark policies. But yet, he is also someone who is investing $30 million of his money in young men initiatives which is all about connecting young men of color to jobs, education and employment.
LEMON: I talked about that. I did a very controversial no talking points where, you know, we talked about what people can do to empower themes. And in that same broadcast, we mentioned the mayor's initiative to help, especially minority young men at least to feel better about themselves, as if they, you know, that they own their own being, they owned they owned neighborhoods, and that they are worth something. And this is something New York City is doing that the rest of the country should be and some are. It's a very good policy.
MARTIN: I believe you can do more to stop bullets with education and employment that you can never do with stop and frisk.
LEMON: Here's what I want to --
PALUMBO: I agree with that, Don. But in short term, when you have an immediate problem, you need to immediate address it. And I do agree with you and I think what we have to do is try to change the environment in which are all already slip. And that is a systemic issue. Let's be very candid with you.
So, I don't think the fix to this problem is anyone one dynamic. Stop and Frisk, I think it's cumulative addressment (ph). I think it's the mayor's program. I think it's stop and frisk, until we tone it down, and then we can revisit it again.
LEMON: I just need one minute, producers. I know we have to go. But let's talk about people, we often talk about people voting against their own interest, right, even some conservatives who vote against health care. Poor segments of the population who vote against who need health care. If stop and frisk, you know, I'm just asking a question, if stop and frisk is actually reducing crime, if it is saving lives of Blacks and Hispanics, are blacks and Hispanics voting against their own interest by saying that they don't want stop and frisk?
PALUMBO: They are. But the reason that they are is because there's a failure by the administration to educate people. I mean, Don, it isn't just that you walk into a community or any demographic and you start to implement a policy. You have to afford them the opportunity to understand what it is you are doing and why.
LEMON: And if it stops, if it actually stops the shooting, I would rather, I'm just going to be honest here. I would rather be able to walk down my street without getting shot than if someone, a police officer stopped and frisked me. I'm sure I would not be happy about it. But I would take that rather than get shot.
MARTIN: And I prefer the risk of getting shot than see the civil rights of young men of color and women of color in communities that are (INAUDIBLE).
LEMON: That's legitimate as well.
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LEMON: Very good conversation. Thank you, gentlemen.
Let's move on now. "Saturday Night Live" accused of not having a diverse casts. So, How does it respond? By mocking itself, of course.
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LEMON: "Saturday Night Live" taking on its critics in only the way "SNL" can. It is tackling all the criticism the show has gotten lately over its lack of diversity. "SNL" veteran Kenan Thompson said last month that he's done playing female character specifically black female characters. He's protesting the fact that there are no black women on the "SNL" cast.
So last night, "SNL" responded with a little help from guest-host Kerry Washington.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm so sorry to interrupt, but Oprah Winfrey has arrived for the dinner and she would love to pop in and say hello.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's wonderful.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What a nice surprise.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Isn't it? Don't you think you should go and get changed?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So that Oprah can come in --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, because of the whole -- UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, exactly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Kenan won't --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nope.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, in that case, I will leave and in a few minutes, Oprah will be here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The producers would like to apologize to Kerry Washington for the number of black women she will be asked to play tonight. We made these requests both because Ms. Washington is an actress of considerable range and talent and also because "SNL" does not currently have a black women in the cast.
As for the latter, we agree this is not an ideal situation and look forward to rectifying it in the near future, unless, of course, we fall in love with another why guy first.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm here!
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LEMON: The truth is often spoken in jest. We'll call you our senior, our lead --
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: Just call me Nischelle.
LEMON: Nischelle is here.
To talk about that, she is our entertainment correspondent. They poke fun at this in only a way that they can do. But it's true. This has been an issue for that show. Have they made a concerted effort, do you think?
TURNER: Well, apparently not because it is an issue. They haven't made one yet. But you know, it is interesting to see what they are going to do after last night. Will they indeed take their own lampooning and making fun of themselves and take heed and listen to that and do something about it.
You know, what I hope they don't do, though, Don, is just go find someone, you know. You do want to make sure that they find someone who is funny first and not just a black female. But, there's a lots of very funny black female comedians out there working today. So when you hear things like they're not quote-unquote "ready," it's hard to kind of believe because there's so many black women who are funny out there working who I have talked to and who always say with the opportunity for us isn't there.
LEMON: Right, right. And you know, we see it in so many different places, right, not just in this. But this one has been particularly difficult because as we say -- Lonnie Love is always on Chelsea and she's hilarious.
TURNER: Roselle (ph), Cory Hart (ph), (INAUDIBLE), I mean, there's tons.
LEMON: So then what's the solution here?
TURNER: Well, that's a good question. I mean, the solution is -- because here's the thing. I mean, I know there's going to be a lot of people out there saying why are we talking about this again? Why are we always talking about race? Why are we always saying that African- Americans aren't getting the opportunities.
But in this situation, you have a show that is based around pop culture. When you have the biggest names in pop culture, people like Beyonce, Oprah, the first lady, Michelle Obama and you don't have an African-American female representation of that person, that's where there's an issue.
And I think it was interesting too as that skit went on. First of all, they said, Beyonce is here and nay had to run back out. But they said oh, is anybody else here? They said yes, as a matter of fact, Matthew McConouhey (ph). And that just six white guys come out and that just drove home the point of the lack of diversity on their cast because they had a platter of people that can play Matthew McConouhey (ph).
LEMON: You bring up a very good point about people who are prominent people, not just in entertainment. I mean, you look at the president, you look at the White House, right. You have two African-Americans who are in the White House now. And you look at the demographics of this country, companies, organizations, entertainment organizations don't reflect the demographics of this country. And we often talked about the Republican party not reflecting the demographic of this country. But, many times, we don't, as well, beyond just politics.
TURNER: That is true. And we should say, also, Lauren Michaels is a television genius. He makes great television. Has "Saturday Night Live" been shortsighted here? Probably so. They even have cast members of their own, (INAUDIBLE) who plays President Obama as well. There is another bunch of other characters said yes, we've been derelict in this. We do need to do better and we can do better.
LEMON: Why? Is it just because -- I mean, Lauren Michaels is great for this because of people at the top all think the certain way or look a certain way? What is that?
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TURNER: Listen. Mia Rudolph was on the cast for seven years, from 2000 to 2007. And she, of course, played the majority of African- American women. I heard Fredricka tell you just a minutes ago, she played here on one of the shows, they haven't had of African-American women since then. And the other issue was the host. In 39 seasons, only eight, now nine, because Kerry Washington, African-American woman have hosted "Saturday Night Live." So, that is where people -- the numbers are poultry. There is no other way to look at it.
LEMON: Do we know how "SNL" goes about finding talent and diverse talent or they just say, everyone shows up and there are no black women who showed up? And is this a larger issue industry-wide?
TURNER: Well, that's a very good question. That's a very good point because they go to places like the upright citizen's brigade. They go to places like the groundling. Second city TV where you have those comedy troops and that's where they find a lot of their talent. They can find them from other places, too. But you might want to ask the question, have the conversation, are those troops diverse enough? That they're going to, to look for their talent. And sometimes it's just a bigger issue of the business in general. That's what I'm saying. That's where you hear a lot from female African-American comedians.
LEMON: But people, you know, you said people always said why are we talking about this race. And you think about the number one entertainers in the country, Jay-Z, Beyonce and on and on. And I mean, Chris Brown, he is in trouble. But you know, Oprah, the biggest talk show, the biggest woman in television, an African-American. The two people in the White House are African-American. And it is like, white, "SNL?" Are you kidding me? What is going on?
TURNER: Well, and like they had Keenan Thompson playing a lot of female characters.
LEMON: He used to play Oprah. He used to play Whoopi.
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TURNER: And he said, listen, I'm not doing it anymore. So, hopefully they will do something.
LEMON: We've got to run. Buff I wonder, is he jeopardizing himself by doing that, you think?
TURNER: I don't think so. I don't think.
LEMON: Thank you.
TURNER: OK.
LEMON: Appreciate it.
TURNER: You're welcome. Thanks for having me.
LEMON: The head coach for the Denver Broncos off the sidelines for the next few weeks. He has to have a heart valve replaced. Sounds serious. We are going to talk to a cardiologist and learn more next.
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LEMON: Denver Broncos enjoy a stellar 7-1 season will be losing coach John Fox for several weeks. Fox became ill in North Carolina yesterday during the Bronco's bye week. He's now in a Charlotte hospital awaiting surgery to replace a defective heart valve.
I want to bring now Doctor Steven Reisman. He is a director of New York cardiac diagnostic center. So, what is your understanding of coach Fox's position?
DOCTOR STEVEN REISMAN, CARDIOLOGIST: From the information I have seen so far, it sounds like he has an aortic valve problem, either (INAUDIBLE). Most likely stenosis (ph). The valve is being blocked and not being letting blood eject itself from the heart.
LEMON: OK.
REISMAN: If you look at a model here --
LEMON: You can hold this up right here.
REISMAN: We have a model here. You can see that this is an aortic valve which is usually a tri-casted valve. He most likely has a bicuspid valve, which is a congenital problem that can get the nose overtime. Again, we're guessing, we don't know.
LEMON: OK.
REISMAN: He was scheduled to have surgery in February, originally. And he went to see his doctor on last Thursday, I believe. On Saturday, he developed light headedness, which is one of the serious symptoms of aortic stenosis (ph).
LEMON: OK.
REISMAN: Most likely that is his problem.
LEMON: All right, let's look. There is a graphic of it and you can show -- if we can put it up here and then we can show you what happens. We have some animation of what --.
So, explain to us what's going on here.
REISMAN: So what's going only here is we're going to eventually see in a minute, the tricuspid valve. That is tricuspid valve. Blood is being ejected to the rest of the body through that valve. When it gets to nosed, blood cannot get out freely and it is partially blocked. When it is partially blocked, one can develop symptoms of shortness of breath, chest pain, lightheadedness.
So now, what they're probably replace his valve. Now, this is different than a heart attack which is one of the blood vessel of the heart gets block and that is a very urgent three to four hours --.
LEMON: So, whey replace that valve, that allows the blood to flow.
REISMAN: When they replaced that valve, it should open up normally and the symptoms that he has of aortic stenosis (ph) should go away. It is a big surgery. It is you put on heart bypass machine. They stop your heart.
LEMON: But you said it is different from a heart attack, how?
REISMAN: OK. Well, heart attack is a blockage of one of these blood vessels going to the heart. When that gets blocked, you develop frequently chest pain and you only have three or four hours to open the blockage if we have a heart attack. That is supplying blood for the muscles. This is actually supplying blood for the entire body. And this, you have a little more time to deal with. So, it is not as urgent.
LEMON: What is his recovery?
REISMAN: He is probably going to be have to two to three-months recovery. He is probably going to have possibly a temporary pacemaker afterwards. It is big surgery and he is going to be incapacitated, you know, from his job for a while, anywhere from three to eight weeks probably.
LEMON: And you know, the broncos are a seen as a favorite for the super bowl. If this goes well, can he be back --
REISMAN: I believe if this goes well, he can be back in time for January for the super bowl. But it depends on no complications, meaning, no bleeding, no infection, no stroke, nothing like that, he would have to have a pretty clean recovery.
LEMON: So, when something like this happens, what is this? Is it usually hereditary? Is it diet? What are the medical reasons, usually? I know you're not his doctor.
REISMAN: Basically, we're guessing here but the most likely situation, he doesn't have a tricuspid valve. He has a bicuspid valve which is a congenital variations on the valve. Those tend to have a greater likelihood to develop calcium and get blocked up. And usually, that is found by an ultra sound or simple test like an echo card gram to do that in our office and then you follow overtime. It sounds like he is being followed overtime. He was warned relatively recently, if you develop any of these symptoms, get hold of us. He has developed something on Saturday.
LEMON: My question is for this is also, at least we now that we know about him, how can I serve our viewers. So, how common or uncommon is this and what should you know if you're home, how you might be possibly affected?
REISMAN: Exactly. So, if you go for a regular check-up and the doctor has a heart murmur that is frequently an abnormal sound on the examination of the heart. That is one of the earlier indicators that your aortic valve is not working properly.
LEMON: But will you feel it?
REISMAN: Usually you don't feel anything until it is quite late in the process. So, ne of the ways to get screened earlier is to get a check-up and sometimes we have an ultra sound early on if we think that is an issue.
LEMON: More common in men or women or does it matter?
REISMAN: I don't think it makes a big difference. You know, it is more common sometimes when people have high blood pressure. But it can develop in anybody.
LEMON: Doctor Reisman, thank you. We appreciate you bringing in the heart for us.
REISMAN: My favorite.
LEMON: Thank you very much.
We're going to have more on coach John Fox next hour in our weekly sports segment. And we are going to take a look at how Fox's health troubles could affect the Bronco's season.
Plus, the story of the 300-pound NFL lineman who left his team amid reports he was bullied by teammates.
And straight ahead, a mayor and the video that were reportedly shows him smoking a crack pipe, this afternoon, he addressed his city about the controversy swirling around him.
But first, a look ahead at something you don't want to miss.
Anthony Bourdain goes to Tokyo tonight in" PARTS UNKNOWN" to explore the city at night. I want you to check out the local music scene there. He is going to do that, the good, the bad, and the extremely loud.
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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST, PARTS UNKNOWN: The pop music scene in Tokyo is not that different from ours, the accent though on pretty boy dance, pop idols, teen stars. Generic industry-created crap for the most part.
Like I said, not so different than us. Picture an army of Miley Cyrus' or would that be Miley Cyron (ph). Going against the grain are a few lone heroes like, merging room.
Self-released albums and no record deal. Dance suites, what do they know. Lead singer, sweet, shy, friendly, little affair. No.
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LEMON: This is going to be really sultry, seductive, controversial, "PARTS UNKNOWN," coming up. Hear more soothing sounds of Tokyo with Anthony Bourdain. It is tonight at 9:00 eastern.
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ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With your weekly five, I'm Rosa Flores.
One of the most anticipated IPOs of the year goes public this week. Twitter plans to sell about 70 million shares at a price of $17 to $20 per share. The company has about a 545 million shares outstanding, giving it a value as high as $10.9 billion.
Tuesday is Election Day. Capturing a lot of attention, big city mayor races in New York, Detroit and Atlanta. Governors will be elected in New Jersey and Virginia. And voters in some counties in Colorado will decide whether they want to split and form a new state of northern Colorado.
The activists are headed to Washington D.C. for the million masks march. Demonstrators involve with anonymous, will gather on the national mall on Tuesday. Anonymous supports online leakers of sensitive information like (INAUDIBLE), Bradley Manning, and Edward Snowden.
Happy birthday Reverend Billy Graham. The pain preacher will be celebrating his 95th birthday and his family is throwing him a huge party. Between 600 and 700 people have been invited including President Bill Clinton, Sarah Palin and Donald Trump.
He has been late night totter for weeks. Now, Republican senator Ted Cruz is doing a late night TV. Cruz will be a guest on "the Tonight show with Jay Leno" this Friday. We are not sure what Leno will discuss with Cruz, but perhaps the senator's reading of "green eggs and ham" during his recent filibuster could come up.
And that's your weekly five.
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LEMON: Rosa Flores, thank you very much for that.
One person is in the hospital after a shooting at North Carolina A&T University. The 21-year-old male victim suffered serious injuries, but is expected to be OK'd. Police are looking for four suspects. They say the gunfire occurred Saturday night in a grassy area on campus and the victim was a considerable distance away. Campus was locked down for about 30 minutes.
Police in suburban Atlanta have arrested the parents after 10-year-old girl whose body was found burned in a trash can. The girl's dad called 911 yesterday saying he was suicidal. He also told the dispatcher his daughter had drunk some sort of chemical and died. When police arrived, the dad pointed officers it a trash can where they found a badly burned body. The girl's father and step mother have now been charged with murder.
Also in Georgia, man faces charges for accidentally setting his wife on fire at a gas station. The surveillance camera reported the whole thing as the couple was standing next to the truck. Look at that. While pumping gas, the husband started a cigarette lighter that caused vapor fire. His wife suffered third degree burns. Her husband faces a misdemeanor reckless conduct charge.
Hello, everyone. I'm Don Lemon. It is 6:00 here in the east in the CNN NEWSROOM. Thank you for joining us.
We are going to begin with some grizzly new details that are merging on the Los Angeles airport shooting. Prosecutors say the shooter fired at point blank range at TSA officer Gerardo Hernandez who crumbled to the floor. The suspect walked away, rode up an escalator, and turned around, and saw a bloody Hernandez squirming on the floor. The prosecutor say the shooter came back and shot Hernandez again killing him.