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Philippines Disaster on Epic Scale; Christie Coy About Future Plans; Fight Over "Stop and Frisk" Heating Up; Massive Storm Pounced Philippines; Charity Gives Shelter by Box; Richie Incognito Says He's No Bully

Aired November 10, 2013 - 18:00   ET

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PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Martin, what they need is food. They need water. Clean water. And many of them need medication and they all need shelter. Very few people actually have a home left standing.

But for many people, hundreds of people have arrived overnight, same happened the night before, they want to get out. They do not want to be in this area anymore. They don't have a home. Many have lost residents and they don't have food and water.

So, they just want to get on one of the military planes that's landing ever so often here at the Tacloban airport and they want to go to Manila. Many don't have a place to stay in Manila, but they just want it get out of the disaster zone.

So, it is really turning into a mass humanitarian airlift. Every single plane that's leaving from here is jam-packed filled with survivors who are too traumatized to stay and have nothing to stay for -- Martin.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: I'm wondering, you know, of course, this is just a disaster that will continue to grow the next few days, the next few weeks, are recovery officials even looking that far ahead while they're still trying to find people who died?

HANCOCKS: Not publicly. And, Martin, I shouldn't imagine they would be even privately. At this point, it is very much a disaster relief effort. They are trying to find survivors. They are trying to take away bodies because they have many bodies are just lying by the side of the road, because they haven't had the manpower to now to move them more, just because of the sheer scale of this disaster.

And, of course, this is day three now after the storm and have you health concerns coming up. You have health concerns of decomposing bodies of animals, that are trapped under the rubble, of stagnant water that's in different areas. And also, of course, people don't have shelter. This is coming up to the rainy season. It is November in the Philippines.

And, of course, there will be more heavy rain. There will be more heavy wind. It's very important to try and get the necessities, the bare necessities for these people. So, any further afield, I do not think they have started thinking about yet, Martin.

SAVIDGE: Paula Hancocks, in one of the hardest hit area in the Philippines -- we'll continue to check back with you. Thanks.

Our own CNN crew members saw and heard Haiyan shred the hotel that they thought was going to shelter them in the storm, but far from it.

Winds so powerful they stripped door frames out of the wall. Throughout the world people are seeing images of devastation in the Philippines. And for many Filipinos living in the U.S., the pictures are too much to bear since they can't reach their loved ones.

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DON HORTON, SUFFERING FROM PARKINSON'S DISEASE: Red 18, go! Right, man.

Right there. Good job right there.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): For more than three decades now, Don Horton's life has been mostly football.

D. HORTON: Division I, Division II, III, and also high school coach -- all very rewarding experience.

GUPTA: Then in 2006, Don became one of the 60,000 Americans diagnosed every year with Parkinson's disease. Perhaps the worst day came in 2009. That's when Don found himself unable to button his own shirt.

Russell Wilson, who is now a quarterback with the Seattle Seahawks, helped Don with his buttons so their team could get back on the road.

D. HORTON: It's a humbling experience to be helped. You know you have to do something. You can see it there. You've done it before. It seems so easy for everybody else to do.

MOIRA HORTON, DON HORTON'S WIFE: There were so many challenges he was going through that I couldn't help with but this was one change I thought I could do.

GUPTA: Calling on her own experience as a children's clothing designer, Don's wife, Moira, got to work, creating a line of magnetic clothing free of buttons and zippers that would help her husband and others regain their independence.

M. HORTON: So it's as simple as lining it up.

D. HORTON: So broad there at the beginning (INAUDIBLE) but as it grew, the e-mails that she got were incredible, helping so many people across the nation.

GUPTA: The magna-ready magnets are strong enough to keep the shirts closed but not so strong that the shirts are difficult to open.

M. HORTON: And you're dressed. GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, report.

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SAVIDGE: Well, that's not the report we expected. Sanjay Gupta, though, thank you.

Typhoon Haiyan made land fall in northeastern Vietnam about an hour ago. To prepare for it, emergency officials evacuated about a hundred thousand people. It's been weakening, Haiyan sustained winds now are 75 miles an hour with gusts of 93 miles an hour. And it's expected to bring 8 to 12 inches of rain fall possibly causing flooding and landslides there.

Eight agencies, of course, are mobilizing to help the victims of that typhoon. And to find out how can you help, go to CNN.com/impact.

Governor Chris Christie. He is celebrating his gubernatorial win or is he planning a race for the White House?

Then later, a new twist in New York City's legal fight over its controversial stop and frisk policy. The city asked the judge to step in. That is just ahead.

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SAVIDGE: Just days after winning reelection, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie played coy about his future on the Sunday talk shows circuit today. To some, Christie may sound like he is laying groundwork for a possible presidential bid instead of taking a victory lap in New Jersey.

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GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE (R), NEW JERSEY: What you saw from the election results on Tuesday is pretty simple. People want the folks they elect to get the jobs done.

I'm the governor of New Jersey. That's my job and that's what I asked for for four more years and that's what I intend to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All four years?

CHRISTIE: Listen, who knows? I don't know.

There are obvious problems that need to be fix and people in Washington, both parties are not fixing these problems, nor is the president. And that's the problem.

And they look at a place like New Jersey, where we're not using divided government as an excuse not to act.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

SAVIDGE: All right. Let's bring in our political panel. That's Democratic strategist and CNN political commentator, Maria Cardona. She is joining us from Washington. And CNN political commentator and conservative Ben Ferguson. And he is joining us from Dallas.

And, Ben, I will start with you. Do you think Christie is conservative enough, let's say, to win over Tea Party faction members? And if Christie runs, that is, as president?

BEN FERGUSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes, no, I do. I mean, there are some issues that there are going to be conservatives that have problems with him, issues with him. But you look at Mitt Romney and John McCain and they were not even close to the conservatives and both of those won the primaries.

And with a dynamic guy like Chris Christie, I think he's going to be able to give a really, really, really tough run for other candidates that are going to be in there because he is so dynamic. And when he talks, he commands people's attention. They believe him. He seems genuine, which you can't say for a lot of politicians.

So I do think he's got a very good shot at it. And a lot of people when you get in a room and watch and speak, people are inspired by him. That's what you've got have during the primary. People got to like you as a human being and he obviously has an X-factor.

SAVIDGE: Yes. Maria -- I mean, some of those things that make him appealing towards conservatives are also things that could make him appealing to staunch Democrats. What do you think?

MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, it is really difficult to tell which Chris Christie is going to show up for the primary process, if decides to run, which clearly I think he is planning a run. Here is what I mean by that, Martin. He already started walking away and being wishy-washy on one of the most important issues in the presidential race in 2016 and that's immigration reform. He seems to be so proud of having won the Latino vote in New Jersey, and yet, today, he could not answer with a straight face whether he would support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants on immigration reform when he had already done so in New Jersey.

So, he is already starting to run to the right because he knows he can't make it through the primary process, and that that is going to be kryptonite for him if he doesn't make it through the primary process --

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FERGUSON: If you look at what he says today, he ran against all -- he ran away from all major issues dealing with the presidency, including what he would do with Syria, and Iran and other places like that. I mean, that's -- he's smart because there is nothing to gain right now. Just a week after winning reelection handedly as governor of New Jersey and a much more liberal state and seeing that Hispanics came out for him by 50 percent. I mean, he won that election overwhelmingly.

CARDONA: He had already --

(CROSSTALK)

FERGUSON: Let me finish, let me finish, let me finish.

He was smart to walk away and say, I just won governorship. I'm focused on that. I'm not going to spout off about these issues because -- look, there's people out there, and you are a prime example of it, that would love for him to get into the early scene and start beating him down from the Democratic side. He is not going to play that game with you. He is not going to give you the chance to do it today.

SAVIDGE: All right. Ben, Maria, let me just interrupt for one second because I have more than one question and let's try to move on.

So, "TIME" magazine puts out this very controversial cover and it features Governor Christie there. And "TIME's" executive editor claims that this cover is not about Christie's weight.

I'll ask you both -- do you believe him, Maria? Go ahead.

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CARDONA: No, look. "TIME" always likes to put these kinds of covers because it actually starts conversations like the ones we're having. So, of course, it pushes people to look at cover and it go read "TIME" magazine, which is great for them.

But I think at the end of the day, it is about having a conversation about Christie, about his issues, and frankly about his weight and whether that will an issue or not. But I think, again, more importantly, going back to the earlier conversation, it is going to be about whether he is able to attract the same kind of coalition that he did in New Jersey for the win, that he's going to have to in 2016.

And, I'm sorry, but immigration reform is not just a national presidential issue, it is an issue that most every single Republican candidate that wants to talk about for president has the position on. And he embraced comprehensive immigration reform. He embraced pathway to citizenship.

So, for him to walk away from it now is glaring.

FERGUSON: I'll tell you what?

CARDONA: Glaring, and the Latino vote will not support him if he does that in 2016.

FERGUSON: What's glaring is how terrified you are as a Democrat are is of Chris Christie, which personally I love it. I mean, that's what's glaring from your attack is you're terrified of that guy. I'm thrilled.

CARDONA: No, it is not glaring. Absolutely. Not terrified. I hope he does run.

(CROSSTALK) SAVIDGE: Ben, let me just ask you to comment on this. That is, there are a lot of people who are overweight in this country. And they look at Chris Christie as a man who exemplifies really a lot of them. And I'm wondering, you know, is it wrong to sort of worry about what the weight impact is going to be for him.

FERGUSON: Well, I think it is just that an incredibly pathetic magazine cover by "TIME" magazine. It would be as distasteful as putting Barack Obama on the front and saying the donkey in the room underneath his name. It would be unacceptable and people would be angry.

And they obviously are trying to hit on him, saying, well, is the guy too fat? I mean, I think "TIME" magazine knew exactly what they were doing. This wasn't a mistake. And they are trying to make his weight an issue. And I think it may back fire.

I mean, he obviously is a guy that's been candid about his weight. He had surgery, recently. He says I'm 50 percent of the way where I want to be losing weight. That should be commended.

I think he is real and raw guy and there is nothing wrong with not having a six pack if you're a politician. He is not an Olympic athlete. He is trying to get in better shape.

But again, for "TIME" magazine to go this low this far in advance kind of goes to what I was saying earlier. They obviously are terrified of Chris Christie as well.

SAVIDGE: I want to move to Benghazi before we run out of time. So, let's switch gears to that.

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham vowing to keep blocking President Obama's nominations until Congress hears from Benghazi survivors. He spoke to CNN's Candy Crowley on "STATE OF THE UNION". Take a listen.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R), SOUTH CAROLINA: The only reason is I've been trying for a year to get interviews without holes. And you just can't allow something this bad and this big of national security failure, for the administration to investigate itself. I don't want to hold anybody. All I want to do is talk to the survivors.

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SAVIDGE: Let me ask you this, Maria, is this a proper tactic for Graham to take?

CARDONA: I think it's a tactic that he feels he needs to take because he is facing a primary at home in South Carolina. I don't think it is smart for him to do this because he is cutting off his nose to spite his face. If, in fact, what he really wants is to make sure that what happened in Benghazi doesn't happen again because one of the holds that he is holding the person who's going to be in charge of diplomatic security at the State Department. So, that to me reeks of politics and does not go to actually trying to resolve what happened, and more importantly, making sure that it doesn't happen again.

SAVIDGE: I was going to say -- Ben, go ahead.

FERGUSON: The politics of this started -- yes, the politics has started the day that the White House coordinated an effort to go out to the American people, with Susan Rice, and make up and fabricate an absolute and utter lie, telling us this attack was a spontaneous protest, which we now know emphatically was a lie. It was a planned lie by the White House.

And then to keep going with that lie, saying it was a protest because after YouTube video that the people in the Middle East that surround this consulate didn't even know existed.

So, for Lindsey Graham to come out and say, I don't trust this administration because they went out and lied to everyone about what happened is not partisan politics when you have an ambassador that dies and you have no one that's been able to answer questions about it. And the only people talking are the White House and you know their story from day one was a total fabrication of American ambassador dying on the anniversary of 9/11, and they think we're dumb enough to think it's a YouTube video. I mean, Lindsey Graham is not playing politics. He's actually trying to get an answer for a dead people, there's nothing partisan about that at all.

CARDONA: What underscores politics here, Martin, is that he said this after the CBS "60 Minutes" report, which has been debunked because they used a source which is not reliable and they've actually retracted it.

SAVIDGE: Maria Cardona, Ben Ferguson, I'm so sorry, we couldn't find anything to talk about today. Well work on it.

CARDONA: No kidding.

SAVIDGE: Thank you both for joining us tonight. Nice to see you.

CARDONA: Thanks so much.

FERGUSON: Thanks.

SAVIDGE: New York City has asked a judge to step into the battle over his controversial stop and frisk program. Details, next.

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SAVIDGE: A birthday party turned into a crime scene late last night. Two high school students were shot and killed at a party in Cypress, Texas, that's just outside of Houston. Nineteen people were wounded after someone fired into that crowd. Many of those people were wounded as a result of gunshots. This afternoon, the sheriff gave more details about what happened.

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SHERIFF ADRIAN GARCIA, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS: Out of no apparent provocation, someone discharged a firearm in apparent celebration of music. Someone else who thinks it's important to carry a pistol to a birthday party decides to pull theirs and recklessly reacted to the gunfire and shoots into the crowd.

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SAVIDGE: The sheriff also said the invitation of the party was posted on social media and over 100 people were there. Deputies are looking for two suspects. They're are also still trying to determine motive.

The legal fight on the controversial stop and frisk policy in New York City is heating up. This time the city of New York is asking a federal court to overturn a decision to require the city to change its stop and frisk policy.

Rosa Flores joins me from New York.

And, Rosa, hello.

This is policy that generated heated conversation on both sides, hasn't it?

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's been pretty explosive and the timing of this is very interesting, given that Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio just claimed city hall -- and may we add with a very wide margin. And he is openly against the stop and frisk policy and openly said he would drop the city's appeal when he gets into city hall.

So what do we have here, folks? In a filing, the city of New York attorneys, are asking a federal appeals judge to avoid the order issued in August by a lower court that required the NYPD to change its stop and frisk policy.

So, here's a back story. In August, a court found that stop and frisk practice used by the city of New York, they were unlawful, they were unconstitutional, they targeted tens of thousands of blacks and Hispanics and ordered the city of New York to make changes.

Well, the city appealed, and in October, the New York Police Department was given the green light to resume the stop and frisk program by that appeals court, who said the residing judge jeopardized the appearance of partiality by a series of media interviews and public statements. Well, subsequently, a randomly selected judge would be assigned it that case.

Well, now, the city of New York is saying, we want that lower court, that August decision, to be completely annulled all together. And we have been trying to get in contact with Bloomberg and incoming de Blasio administrations about this new filing. But we haven't been able to reach them.

But like I said, Martin, Mayor Bloomberg has but a few weeks left at city hall and when de Blasio takes over, he has been very, very clear that he does not support stop and frisk. So that heated debate is for sure going to continue.

SAVIDGE: And, Rosa, when can we expect a decision?

FLORES: You know, that's very interesting because of course in this case, they are at the mercy of the courts. So they really don't know when that would come about. But it's really interesting because not only is New York, you know, waiting about what's going to happen regarding stop and frisk. But really the rest of the country is too because of the precedent that would be set here -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Rosa Flores, thanks very much for the update.

Anthony Bourdain traveled to Detroit. In tonight's season finale of "PARTS UNKNOWN", he will meet a Detroit man who has made a home with left over parts from the Motor City's glory days.

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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST (voice-over): Maybe the worm started to turn here, the Packard automotive plant. Opened in 1903, it was considered the most advanced facility of its kind, anywhere in the world. Huge, epically proportioned, I mean, 3.5 million square feet.

Now, one man lives here. Al Hill.

AL HILL: My name is Alan Hill. Welcome to my home. This room right here is boardroom of the former Packard Motor Car Company.

I started living here almost seven years ago. At that time, I was semi-apprehensive about the place. And the going-ons around here, but it turned it's about as peaceful as the North Woods, and not having a credit card or a mortgage or a car payment is a real blessing.

There's nails. So --

BOURDAIN: Yes.

HILL: What happened here in Detroit is unfortunate, but a sign of the times. It not only takes an individual to raise a village, it takes an entire world to support one city. You know, one city suffering or one community suffering, the entire world should pitch in and help elevate it, instead of sit there and stare at it.

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SAVIDGE: You can watch more of Anthony's trip to Detroit tonight at 9:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

And just a few minutes from now, we go live to Sin City it talk about the Motor City. That's where Don Lemon is. He will be joined by Anthony Bourdain, who as you see -- well, they'll be rehearsing inside. They'll be talking about the "PARTS UNKNOWN" season finale and tonight's broadcast from Las Vegas.

The typhoon that pounded the Philippines was one of the strongest ever recorded. Next, you'll go inside the typhoon where our CNN cameras were rolling as that storm hit.

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SAVIDGE: It's early Sunday morning now in the nation that is dealing with a once-in-a-generation disaster. Just 48 hours since a monstrous typhoon crashed over the Philippines, the priority of water and food for survivors while counting the number of people who died. Some food and emergency supplies are already getting to people who desperately need it, but that process is slow. And there are enormous parts of the country still cut off from communications or any way to get to a safer place.

The typhoon that pounded the Philippines was as big as Germany, and triple the strength of Hurricane Katrina. And you're about to see what this massive storm looked like on the inside.

One CNN reporter team kept their cameras rolling when the typhoon hit.

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ANDREW STEVENS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is what the inside of a super typhoon looks like. 250 kilometer an hour plus winds slamming into a city. A white haze of screaming noise. Smashing windows, tearing metal, water and flying debris.

Just minutes after we finished our live shots telling headquarters that we were moving to safer ground, cameraman Brad Elson shot this on the place we just left.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, guys, I think we can wrap it up.

STEVENS: As the destruction there continued, a floor below, terrified residents huddled together finding protection against the flying spray and to mind-numbing noise. Some pray for their safety.

(On camera): Children in the corridor. It's a relatively secure area, I think, where we are. It's a very substantial hotel and we are away from windows. But all around us, you hear the sounds of windows breaking. You hear the sounds of large objects falling and crashing to the floor and under foot, it is now just a deluge. And if you look behind me -- I don't know if you can see it, the staircase behind me is now basically a waterfall.

(Voice-over): Then a torrent of black water began pouring into the hotel. The storm surge had begun. Within a few minutes it was at ground floor window. A panicked family now trapped in their room smashed the window and screamed for help. We managed to get the mother across to safety using a foam mattress and it immediately became clear the cause of her panic. Their daughter was severely disabled.

Storm chaser Josh Morgerman and I went back across to get the terrified girl to safety. And CNN producer Tim Schwartz helped rescue the rest of the family.

The waters only rose a little higher. The height of the storm in fact had passed. Two hours later, wind had lost their lethal strength. Our live position was a ruined shell. But as we walked outside, it was immediately clear that so much of the city had suffered so much more than we had.

Andrew Stevens, CNN, Tacloban City, Central Philippines.

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SAVIDGE: Just incredible to watch.

Now for the relief effort. Among the many trying to help is a group that for free gives housing to victims of devastation in an instant. How? By box.

CNN's Nick Valencia interviewed an organized of the charity aptly called ShelterBox.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Many of you looking at the devastated images coming out of the Philippines after that typhoon that hit the country are asking how can you help? How can you make a difference? We thought we'd introduce you to a disaster relief organization that's on the ground right now and they are making a difference.

This is Wayne Robinson, one of the team members from ShelterBox.

Tell me a little bit about what ShelterBox is.

WAYNE ROBINSON, SHELTERBOX: Sure, Nick. ShelterBox is a disaster relief organization that responds to disasters such as tsunami, earthquake, hurricanes, typhoons, wherever they happen around the world.

VALENCIA: You're all over the world in the hardest hit areas and some of the most remote places. And you bring -- what do you bring along with you? What's sort of the major components of what's in one of these ShelterBoxes?

ROBINSON: The major component of our kit is this large disaster relief tent. It's 14-foot in diameter.

VALENCIA: Let's take a look. Let's go inside and --

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ROBINSON: Quite of a props back here.

VALENCIA: So this is -- this comes everywhere you guys go. This is sort of -- I mean, this is a standard sized tent or is it specific to each disaster?

ROBINSON: No, this is our standard sized tent. This is a great product to have out there on the marketplace when folks have lost everything.

VALENCIA: And you can fit about -- I mean, it looks like 10 people in here at least.

ROBINSON: You can easily fit 10 people in these tents. It's going to give them shelter, warmth and dignity until they can get back on their feet.

VALENCIA: Absolutely. And how does it work? You set this up for them or do you provide them the tools to set this up? How does it work, Wayne?

ROBINSON: We show them how to set the tent up. We train the trainers. When we get in country, we basically beg, borrow, steal trucks, buses and boats, and helicopters and 100 volunteers to make things happen for as many people as we can.

VALENCIA: But this is not the only component. You've got something else, right? Let's see what else you -- you brought. And this is all included in one box here. And thousands go over to each disaster zone at a time, is that right?

ROBINSON: We'll send anywhere from 200 of these kits to 28,000 or more, which we did in the Haiti earthquake back in 2010.

VALENCIA: So you've got the tent but you also have -- tell me what we're looking at here.

ROBINSON: So many other things that come with our kit. If you can imagine you lost everything in the disaster. You have nothing left. One of the main things is blankets and ground sheets. You're going to need those for warmth. And situations where malaria is prevalent, we have mosquito nets that come with it. Obviously we've got great pots and pans and plates, knives and forks, some spoons that folks can use to feed themselves.

VALENCIA: You're helping people start from scratch including rebuilding supplies.

ROBINSON: Absolutely. They're going to need something to start rebuilding. They kind of scrounge around in the rubble and start rebuilding their house. That's something they -- they're going to need tools to do that with.

VALENCIA: Water purification as well. Is that what we're looking at here?

ROBINSON: Water purification is a big component. This is a family- sized water purification kit and a water container for carrying that.

VALENCIA: So what's the most -- very quickly, what's the most difficult part about getting into these hard to hit areas? Is it the politics? Is it the people? The reception? What's the most difficult part?

ROBINSON: We've really got all that worked out pretty well. We've got a training academy over in the U.K. And we work with folks on the ground. We don't (INAUDIBLE) how do to it basically. We work with volunteers to tell us where the affected folks are, how to get things into the country without taxation and duty. And we make it happen for as many people as we can.

VALENCIA: And of course the most important question for those watching at home is, how can they help? How can they get involved with ShelterBox?

ROBINSON: We have a great Web site. It's Shelterbox.usa.org. You can go in there -- with an opportunity to donate, or you can text right now SHELTER to the number 20222 and that will give a $10 donation to ShelterBox and that will be used immediately in disaster areas.

VALENCIA: And we should mention that this organization was founded by a hero, CNN Hero in 2008. Right? Or this has been around since 2000 but he was a CNN Hero.

ROBINSON: Right.

VALENCIA: Legitimate organization. It's been around a long time. And Robinson, thank you very much for your time with CNN.

ROBINSON: Thank you, Nick.

SAVIDGE: Veteran Miami Dolphin Richie Incognito has a lot to say about his suspension for the alleged bullying of a teammate. And then the hidden culture of NFL locker room. We've got those details next.

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SAVIDGE: Some dramatic field of elements today involving the NFL. Veteran Miami Dolphin Richie Incognito, number 68 in that photo, is speaking out about his suspension for the alleged bullying of his teammate, number 71, Jonathan Martin.

So let's talk about this with Terence Moore. He's sports contributor to CNN.com and columnist for MLB.com.

And, Terence, Richie Incognito spoke to -- spoke to FOX Sports. It's hard to get out.

TERENCE MOORE, CNN.COM SPORTS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes.

(LAUGHTER)

SAVIDGE: For the first time we've seen him. But he says that he considers Martin his friend.

MOORE: Yes.

SAVIDGE: And this is the part I just can't comprehend. He says that using the N word and talking in that way wasn't meant in a negative way. So let's listen.

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RICHIE INCOGNITO, MIAMI DOLPHINS GUARD: It's a word that I've heard John use a lot. Not saying it's right for what I did in the voice mail. But there is a lot of call for words thrown around in the locker room that we don't use in everyday life. The fact of the matter remains, though, that that voice mail was left on a private voice mail for my friend and it was a joke.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: So, I mean, you get the gist of what he's saying here is that, you know, this use of the N word is this sort of part of the conversation and part of the casual way that they speak to one another inside of a locker room within the NFL. And I find that so impossible to believe just from the way I was brought up. And I'm -- you cover all this. What do you think?

MOORE: Well, I'll tell you what, Martin. I have covered the National Football League for over 35 years. And we are in a totally different place. OK?

SAVIDGE: Why? What is it?

MOORE: Well, I mean, let's put this in perspective. Back in the early 1980s I worked at the "San Francisco Examiner." And I covered the Oakland Raiders. Now that was a team that was absolutely insane. OK? You have guys like John Matuszak and Ted Hendricks and these guys. You never heard anything like that in the locker room back then. And certainly not the N word.

Back in the '70s when I worked in Cincinnati, you had the legendary Paul Brown -- you know, who founded the Cleveland Browns in your native Cleveland.

SAVIDGE: That's right.

MOORE: OK? And he outlawed hazing. All right? What we have now is we have this culture where you have athletes who want to be hip-hop guys. Hip-hop guys who want to be athletes. And they've invented this vulgar environment where anything goes. That's essentially in a nutshell what is going on here.

SAVIDGE: Have they no concept of what the word means?

MOORE: They don't care. You know? It's a whole different society. You know? And that's why you've got the situation when you have a lot of people coming to Incognito -- Richie Incognito's defense. Because in addition to that culture, you also have this culture now where the NFL is like a gang. And these individual teams are like gangs.

So if you go outside the gang and say something to the public, then you're a snitch. And so essentially they look at Jonathan Martin as being a snitch. Snitches get whacked. He's not getting whacked physically.

SAVIDGE: Right. Yes. Yes.

MOORE: He's getting whacked verbally.

SAVIDGE: Yes. And that brings up, you know, there were some people who were surprised when the players of the Dolphins or even other team mates or other teams in the NFL came in support of Incognito.

MOORE: Sure.

SAVIDGE: What's up with that?

MOORE: Well, you know, and that also kind of ties into what's going on with the NFL in general. All right? And I mentioned -- the Oakland Raiders earlier. They had a -- an owner named Al Davis. And Al Davis' -- famous line is just win, baby. You got understand, you look at Miami Dolphins, their offensive line has been bad for years.

So they have decided the players on the Dolphins that this crazy guy, Richie Incognito, who's not so pleasant, gives them a better chance of winning that this, you know, Eddie -- let's just say, Richie Cunningham.

SAVIDGE: Right. Right.

MOORE: Richie Cunningham, tough guy, and Jonathan Martin. So it's all about winning and losing in their minds.

SAVIDGE: But that is a terrible indictment of the NFL today.

MOORE: It is. And it's also a terrible indictment against the Miami Dolphins.

And I'll tell you, Martin, nobody is bringing those up. But the people who are really at fault here is the coaching staff of the Miami Dolphins and also the general manager and the owner. I talked to an NFL executive this week who is very well known, who's been around for a billion years.

And he substantiated what I thought before. He said there is no way in the world all this could have taken place in their locker room without all those entities knowing about it. They know everything there is to know about these guys before they draft them.

You know, right here in Atlanta, Georgia, the owner of the Atlanta Falcons, Arthur Blank, his secure guy is a former Secret Service guy. What does that tell you? OK? So they had to know that this was going on.

SAVIDGE: Terence, nice to see you. Thank you very much for joining us today.

MOORE: Thank you.

SAVIDGE: Next, we're going to Las Vegas, baby. Don Lemon, hanging out with Anthony Bourdain for tonight's season finale of "PARTS UNKNOWN."

Don't go anywhere.

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ROSA FLORES, CNN ANCHOR: With your "Weekly Five," I'm Rosa Flores. We honor America's war heroes as the nation marks Veterans Day on Monday. The holiday originated at the end of World War I. President Obama will participate in a wreath-laying ceremony at the Tomb of the Unknowns.

A big reveal for the Washington Monument. Scaffolding that enclosed the marble obelisk earlier this year is beginning to be removed. The monument was damaged by an earthquake in 2011. The National Parks Service is expected to reopen it this spring.

James "Whitey" Bulger is sentenced on Wednesday in Boston. The convicted mob boss found guilty of 11 murders could spend the rest his life in prison. He's 84 years old. Family members of victims may speak at the hearing.

Stay classy, America. Thursday, the museum opens "Anchorman, The Exhibit." It will include props and costumes from the hit comedy "Anchorman: The legend of Ron Burgundy." You'll be able to see the iconic Burgundy business suit, plus his mustache brush and of course, the jazz flute.

And Friday is the day many gamers have been waiting for. The Playstation 4 goes on sale. PS4 users will have access to Netflix, Hulu, Amazon instant video and Red Box instant streaming. According to Sony, the PS4 also features an option that should please nongaming family members. If someone else wants to watch TV players can untether the PS4 and stream their games to the hand-held Playstation Vita.

And that's your "Weekly Five."

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Don Lemon in Las Vegas. This may or may not be a Martini. It may or may not be water. But you're going to find out later.

Hey, we're here -- we're at Atomic Liquors. And there's a good reason we're here in downtown Las Vegas. This is the old strip. That the new strip where all the lighted buildings and the big casinos and hotels, this was the original strip. This sign is from the -- from 1950s like the old Vegas signs, the old Reno signs that you used to see back in the day.

And when downtown Las Vegas really sort of went away for a while, this bar withstood the test of time and actually they kept the bar open. This guys are here, I'm here because Anthony Bourdain is here.

You guys excited about that?

Anthony Bourdain -- well, the season finale to "PART UNKNOWN: DETROIT" is going to be tonight at 9:00 p.m. Eastern. Then right after that, we're going to do the last bite. And make a trend on Twitter if you will. Hash tag last bite.

We're going to do that at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. We're coming here, live with Anthony Bourdain. Let's see what he's doing inside. He's rehearsing just a little bit earlier. Anthony. Anthony. We're live on CNN. Can you talk to me after the break? I know you're rehearsing and you're busy. You want to talk?

ANTHONY BOURDAIN, HOST, "PARTS UNKNOWN": Yes.

LEMON: We're going to let you put your make-up on. You and I will get a shot on or something.

BOURDAIN: A shot, yes. Definitely.

(LAUGHTER)

LEMON: And we're going to talk to Anthony Bourdain. We're going to ask him why he picked this particular place, the Atomic Liquor, to do this.

BOURDAIN: Why not? Right. Exactly.

LEMON: We'll talk to him right after the break. Don't go anywhere.

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LEMON: Welcome back, everyone, to CNN. It's not often you see a mushroom cloud on CNN. The reason you're seeing that is because we're here at Atomic Liquors in downtown Las Vegas. And we're here for none other than the iconic, the intrepid, Mr. Anthony Bourdain.

Season finale is tonight. Season finale is in Detroit. But we are here in Las Vegas and you picked this because you think that this sort of represents America.

BOURDAIN: Look, there's high roller Vegas and then there is for me the real Vegas. And this is the real Vegas. This is the Vegas I love. This side of town.

LEMON: Yes. This is Vegas you love. And this is what you love to do.

Hey, Rosey, come here. What does Anthony have here?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He has a local brewery, Joseph James Citra Rye pale ale.

LEMON: And what is this one?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the Hefeweizen Solace, unfiltered wheat beer.

LEMON: OK. So this one is not local. OK. So you're Mr. Local. You're Mr. Hopps the table.

BOURDAIN: I eat local, drink local.

LEMON: Seriously, why do you love this place so much? Why do you love Las Vegas and why do you love Atomic? BOURDAIN: You know, they used to dance on the roof here, I think, when they would explode, the A-bomb during nuclear tests. And you know, hearkens back to -- I think this is one of the oldest establishments in Vegas. And, you know, locals drink here and eat here. And it's -- this is, you know, it is not that faceless corporate feel, the anonymous feel of a casino. You know, I feel -- it should surprise you not at all that I feel right at home in places like this.

LEMON: I agree with you. I'm having much more fun here than I'm having in my fancy hotel which is down -- you know, which is on the famous strip. This is more fun. This is more authentic to me.

So we'll talk a little bit more about this and why it's called Atomic, because they would test the bombs and people come and watch. But I want to talk to you about "PARTS UNKNOWN," the final episode, the finale for this season. Detroit. You love Detroit.

BOURDAIN: Look, I love Detroit. I think it's a great American city. It's almost everything great arguably, truly American, came out of Detroit. I mean, it was the automobile, the highway, the credit card, the dream of upper mobility. It is an iconic city. It is still, to my mind, a beautiful city.

I greatly admire, you know, with all of the troubles they've had. The sort of fierce and very black humored spirit of the people who have chosen to remain and see it through. It just -- it was sort of love at first sight for me. It's a place I felt great loyalty to from way back. And a place I wanted to portray on television.

LEMON: Tony, you went places this season that you have not gone. And the previous season on CNN and your other shows. Tokyo was, shall we say, different.

BOURDAIN: Well, I think that's an example of a show -- that's a destination I've been to many times. I've made a lot of television there. The challenge, as it often is on the show, is to go some place that we have done before, other people have done before, but show a side to it, an important side, but one that most people for obvious reasons, haven't chosen to put on television.

It is some pretty dark disturbing stuff. But you know, along with all of the things you're comfortable with and love about Japan, there is that, too. And it's something I wanted to look at for a while. And didn't frankly think I could get away with.

LEMON: Well, the reason I said it was different and interesting is because you talk about sex bondage, you talk about masochism. And you know, I asked you earlier when I saw you, what does all this have to do with food. But it's part of the experience when you go to that country.

BOURDAIN: It's part of Japanese pop culture. Those sorts of images, that sort of fantasy life. And look, it's pretty lurid stuff. I think, you know, I don't know how many -- how many copies has "50 Shades of Gray" sold in the states? So no reason to be too smug about Japan being perverted or anything. I mean, I think we're -- we're at least as disturbed. They just -- you know, they do things in very lurid, very visual ways, let's put it that way.

LEMON: So we go to Tokyo. We went to Copenhagen. We went to Israel. We went to Detroit. We went to Spain. We went to Sicily. A number of -- all of the episodes are amazing and we're going to go through them tonight at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. But before you watch "LAST BITE" tonight on 10:00 p.m. Eastern here on CNN, make sure you watch "PARTS UNKNOWN," the season finale, Detroit, 9:00 p.m. Eastern on CNN.

And then we will see you live here at 10:00 p.m. Eastern right after that.

The next hour of CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.

SAVIDGE: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM, I'm Martin Savidge, in for Don Lemon. Thank you very much for joining us this evening. Don is now far away. He's on special assignment, as you may have just seen. Las Vegas. We'll be back in touch.

BOURDAIN: But we have to start overseas with that desperate national emergency now placing the people of the Philippines.