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Child Found Handcuffed to Porch, Suspect Works for Social Services; Missing Family Found Buried in Desert; The Tiniest Victims of Haiyan; Widower: My Wife Was Worked to Death; Man Sues Hospital for Wife's Death; Actress Guilty of Stalking Alec Baldwin, Baldwin Angers GLAD, Show Suspended; Bulger Gets 2 Life Sentences; Interview with Author John "Red" Shea; Changes Coming to NFL Locker Rooms

Aired November 16, 2013 - 17:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back now to our live coverage. I'm Don Lemon. Thank you so much for joining us. You're not going to believe this story. We're going to begin with a story that every veteran, even veteran police officers are calling shocking. A couple in Union County, North Carolina in jail this hour after a deputy sheriff found a child handcuffed to a porch of their home by the ankle with a dead chicken hanging around his neck. You heard me right. Dead chicken.

CNN's Rosa Flores joins me now. You have some additional information about this and about the mother, but I can't believe this story.

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I know. It's like, where do you even begin? There are many shockers in this story, but one of those shockers, Don, is that this mother works for social services. So above everything, she works for social services, and even though she was not there at the time that the deputies arrived, she is accused of being complicit in the mistreatment of those children. Now, take a look at your screen.

Here are their mug shots. Dorian Lee Harper and Wanda Sue Larson, both 57 years of age, now facing intentional child abuse, inflicting serious injury, false imprisonment and cruelty to animal charges. Wanda Sue Larson is also charged with willful failure to discharge her duty as a public official. You see, she is currently employed as a supervisor with the Union County Department of Social Services. Here's the back story, folks. Authorities were responding to an animal services complaint next door when a police officer walked up to this, an 11-year-old child secured to the front porch by the ankle by what appeared to be handcuffs.

Now, authorities also say that the child had a dead chicken hanging around his neck. Five children were removed from this residence, four adopted children and one foster child. Now, the child that was handcuffed to the porch was the foster child. All the kids are in the custody of social services, and a social services agency outside of this county. CNN has requested comments from the union county government and the public information officer from that government agency tells us that they cannot comment about this incident at this time, because of course all of this is under investigation, Don. And there's a lot here to investigate.

LEMON: They arrived, the police got there, it wasn't about the child, it was an animal services complaint. Right? How is that unfold? What happened?

FLORES: So here's the lowdown in other words. So, the police officer arrives, the deputy arrives, he sees this child that's been secured by the ankle to the porch. So he approaches and he asks this man, why is the child, you know, secured to the porch? And by the way, do you have an ID? So when this is happening, a child opens the door to the house and dogs come out. This forces the deputy to retreat to his cruiser. By that time, by the time he comes back, the child is not secured anymore, and the chicken is now on top of the barrel that's also on the porch. So then backup arrives. Of course, they look at the conditions of the house, and that's when the children are taken into custody. And so is the parent.

LEMON: And all of these and a woman works for social services. So, what happens next? Where does this go from here?

FLORES: Well, they have their first appearance in court on Monday, and they're being held on bond. But the details are disturbing.

LEMON: Yes. Make sure you follow this. This is unbelievable. Rosa Flores with that story. I hate to start off with such a disturbing note, but it is news. I appreciate it Rosa.

We're going to move on to something that we're watching on new developments on that. A California family of four that disappeared in 2010 no longer missing. But this is not a good news story either. Police yesterday uncovered the remains of a mom, a dad and their two boys from a desert grave 100 miles from their home. This awful discovery doesn't answer any of the questions about what happened to them.

CNN's Nick Valencia has more now.

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NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For three years, it's been a mystery that has escaped law enforcement and haunted loved ones. Where is the McStay family? But on Friday, a big development after a discovery in the California desert.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: Excavating the site and through the years of dental records, we were able to identify the adult victims as Summer and Joseph McStay. We believe the other two sets of remains are that of the boys.

VALENCIA: To better understand this story, you have to go back to February 4, 2010. The last day Joseph Summer and their two boys Gianni and Joseph, Jr. were seen. After ten days, police visited their Southern California home. No signs of a forced entry. Only some food and their two dogs were inside.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: There was no damage to any furniture. No blood, no violence, nothing broken. You know, no indication of a struggle.

VALENCIA: The McStays had vanished without a trace.

BLANCHE ARANDA, SUMMER MCSTAY'S MOTHER: I want them to come home.

VALENCIA: Then surveillance video surfaced, showing a family of four fitting their description crossing to border into Mexico. Their car was also found a couple of blocks away from the border. But that's where the case went cold. With Friday's news, there still remains plenty of unanswered questions, including how they were killed and who did it.

MICHAEL MCSTAY, JOSEPH MCSTAY'S BROTHER: It gives us courage to know that they're together and they're in a better place.

VALENCIA: But perhaps now, those closest to the McStays can begin to heal. Nick Valencia, CNN Atlanta.

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LEMON: All right, Nick, thank you very much. It has been more than a week since super typhoon Haiyan destroyed parts of the Philippines. And aid crews are still picking up bodies off the streets. I need to warn you that some of the images here you're about to see are extremely graphic. Families are guarding the dead as more cadaver dogs arrive. The U.S. military has 9,000 troops on the ground delivering supplies and helping the injured, there's also relief coming in from around the world, places like Saudi Arabia, Israel and Australia. As of right now, the official death toll is just over 3,600 people, but that number is expected to grow.

And then there's the tiniest victims of the storm. What some are calling storm babies. Infants born immediately after the storm who are holding on for dear life right now. Some of them wrapped in plastic, just to keep warm.

CNN's Ivan Watson is in Tacloban airport right now. Ivan, what are you seeing?

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Don, of course it's been more than a week since this storm, and the city behind me, Tacloban, which has been the scene of so much drama and tragedy, still very much lies in ruins, despite the fact that aid has started to ramp up. Many more flights and ships arriving evacuating people and bringing in assistance. But this town city of more than 200,000 inhabitants and the surrounding countryside have been shattered, Don. It's forcing Filipinos to improvise and it's pushing these communities to the limit.

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(voice-over): Jeniah Mososisa (ph) pumps for dear life. Her newborn baby isn't breathing, and there's no incubator, no respirator and no electricity to power the machines to save this two-day-old baby's life. So her mother pumps oxygen by hand. Baby Mososisa is just one of 27 newborns here. Storm babies you can call them. All born after the typhoon. They're in a hospital chapel that was converted into a maternity ward, after the storm destroyed the city.

(on camera): These tiny babies are in what doctors are calling the ICU. The neonatal intensive care unit. It's clearly improvised. And they've been put here because their health situation is frighteningly unstable. In fact, doctors say six infants have died in this chapel in the last six days.

(voice-over): Dr. Leslie Rosario says some of these infants are too unstable to be medevaced to a better hospital out of the storm zone.

(on camera): What do you need for these babies right now most?

DR. LESLIE ROSARIO, ATTENDING PHYSICIAN: Mostly now, mechanical ventilator, especially for these babies, and then suction machine, incubators for prematures.

WATSON (voice-over): Tiny, fragile cocoons. This little girl was born just a few hours ago, and she's six weeks premature. During our visit, some good news. Little James' health has stabilize and he graduates from the ICU to rejoin his mother.

(on camera): Is this your first son?

CATHERINE PINDOT, NEW MOTHER: Yes.

WATSON: How do you feel?

PINDOT: Happy.

WATSON (voice-over): Doctors say most of the newborns here are healthy. But during what should be a moment of joy, parents also face uncertainty. Many have seen their homes destroyed, so they rest amid the pews. While next to the altar, Dr. Rosario says, baby Mososisa's chances are not good.

ROSARIO: Right now, the baby is -- very poor condition, critical condition. So, certainly a poor prognosis for this baby.

WATSON: There is little more Jeniah Mososisa can do now but pray for her daughter's life.

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LEMON: Ivan, when will some of those babies be able to make it to a real hospital with the supplies that they need to survive?

WATSON: Well, as I asked the doctor there, the most -- the babies that are in critical condition, she says it would be a terrible idea to move them. They're not stable enough. So, you know, that move could actually kill them. The bulk of the infants in that room, they can move. They're healthy theoretically, so there's nothing really stopping them as long as they're not forced to be out under the hot sun or anything like that, for the near future. But those little children, they can't really move anywhere. You know, we looked into other aid organizations, they've looked into trying to help in this little chapel, perhaps providing a small generator or something. But the doctors there are not the original doctors that are assigned and that normally work in that hospital. Those doctors, their families are also victims of the storm. So the doctors have come in from other cities and they don't even know where the equipment is that you would need to properly treat these babies, even if we could give them electricity from a mobile generator. So unhappy situation, Don.

LEMON: It's a terrible situation. Ivan Watson, Tacloban, Philippines. Thank you, I appreciate your reporting. We'll get back to you.

You know, it is a terrible thing, tens of thousands of people are homeless, some hungry people surviving on coconut juice alone. If you want to help the typhoon survivors, go to cnn.com/impact for more information.

Toronto's mayor vowing to keep his job after admitting to smoking crack cocaine. His city council wants him gone, so do most of the city's residents. We'll going to hear from his brother who is standing by his side, next.

And actor Alec Baldwin making headlines twice this week. In the first set of headlines, he's a victim and the second set, he's the accused.

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LEMON: The mayor of Toronto still has a job today, but if he loses many more powers, it will be a title only. Leaders of the biggest city in Canada took away most of Rob Ford's responsibilities as mayor, at the same time begged him to his face to step-down and let the city be run by someone who has not admitted smoking crack.

Our senior international correspondent Nic Robertson live in Toronto right now. Nic, no public appearance by Rob Ford today, that's probably wise, his appearances this week did not go well for him, not well at all to say the least, what's his reason for staying in office after all this pressure?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: He thinks that he's going to win out in the end. The powers that have been taken away from, the right to hire and fire a senior staff, the right to run the city during state of emergency, more powers expected to be taken away from him. On Monday, he thinks that the council is going to be proved wrong and that public opinion will swing back behind him again. But to prove the council is wrong. He's got to take them to court, his high-end -- considered to be a top-notch lawyer here. And of course, this is going to be very expensive for him I told to his brother, about just this.

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ROBERTSON: Your brother the mess had today, he will fight some of these issues in court, it won't be the public money, it will be his money, how much is this going to cost you? How long can you go on fighting it? DOUG FORD, TORONTO MAYOR'S BROTHER: Well, we spent close to probably a million dollars fighting on all the other court cases, three of them, and now you've going to keep it in mind, this battle didn't happen right now. This started three years ago when Rob Ford said --

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That's fine, we've taking on bigger guys too.

ROBERTSON: How do you paying of all this?

FORD: I have, you know, short pockets.

ROBERTSON: Short pockets?

FORD: I have very short pockets.

ROBERTSON: So, then you'll have to stop the fight pretty quickly.

FORD: Now, we're going to stop fighting.

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ROBERTSON: So, that's it, the mayor, his brother who's also a councilor and a city councilor here, going to back in and they're going to keep fighting. So, this could be a really drawn out process here, Don.

LEMON: Interesting. Monday is going to be another big day. Anymore city council attempts to get rid of Rob Ford?

ROBERTSON: Sure, what we're going to see Monday, they're going to try and pass more powers to the deputy that take away some of his budget, to push some of these stuff to now worked under the deputy mess, they're trying to minimize his position, ring-fence him off from any kind of power here, but you know, the mayor is going to have a voice back against all of that if you will, battle to Monday night, 8:00 p.m., he's in a new talk show with his brother, and in there, we can expect them to argue their position and handle questions from the public here, and try and put themselves in a better light dome.

LEMON: People of Toronto are going to make it stop. All right. Nick, thank you. I appreciate that.

Next, more on our top story. Disturbing case of child cruelty, a child handcuffed to a porch with a dead chicken hanging from his neck, and that's not the only shocking detail.

And later this hour, so much for battling out of the field, a college football quarterback allegedly attack by members of the other team at the pre-game banquet.

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LEMON: This is our top story here today on CNN and we're going to analyze it just a bit more for you. Disturbing allegations against the North Carolina couple after a foster child in their care is found handcuffed to a porch with a dead chicken around his neck. Police removed five children from the residents of Dorian Lee Harper and Wanda Sue Larson, four adopted children and one foster child. They've been charged with intentional child abuse inflicting serious injury and false imprisonment and get this, the children's mother is employed as a supervisor for the Union County Department of Social Services.

Joining me now to discuss this is clinical psychologist Dr. Jeff Gardere, and criminal defense attorney Holly Hughes. This is crazy. Dr. Gardere, what do you make of this?

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL & FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, I think this is yet another one of those cases where we see parents behaving very, very badly brings you back to the parents who gave away their child that they adopted when he was just an infant. Of course, we know that parents get very, very frustrated but this is something that you just cannot --

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It's torture, that's what it is. And Don, we saw with all of these charges against them that this is just the tip of the iceberg, evidently, I believe that home was probably filthy, there was more cruelty going on to not just the children but to the animals too.

LEMON: Yes.

GARDERE: So, I think this is one of those houses of horrors.

LEMON: Yes. And this is, this is new video of the house where those children were removed and the boy was found, with the chicken around his neck.

GARDERE: Yes.

LEMON: Apparently, handcuffed to -- or at least tied somehow to the front porch.

Holly Hughes, the adopted mother, works with social services. Listen, you don't have to work for social services to know that this is not the way they treat children.

HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, that's exactly right. This is the perfect example of a woman who thinks she's above the law, because of her position, Don. Of course, she knows better. I mean, a five year old will tell you, you shouldn't be leaving in these conditions and let's remember the five children that were removed from the home range in age from about seven or eight up to about 13th. These are all children who can speak who will be able to testify, who will be forensically interviewed by specialist, they're going to be able to tell us unfortunately exactly what happened in that house.

And we know that people are horrified, the judge set the bond extremely high. You're looking at half-a- million dollars for the male and then $525,000 on the female. So, the judge is not playing, and as Dr. Jeff pointed out, there's also a cruelty of animals involved. So, what do you think that means Don, that house is filthy inside, it's probably covered with animal feces and these poor children, and these are children that were willingly brought into the home, they were adopted which makes it even more horrifying, you went out, and brought children into this, it's not that if you had children and then didn't know how to care for them, you willingly went out and got these children, and brought them into this house of horrors. And let me tell you something, they're going to face them serious jail time for these atrocities.

LEMON: Seems more sadistic, even the patron. It's all terrible.

GARDERE: Absolutely.

LEMON: Thank you guys, don't go anywhere, you guys stay right there, after the break, I want to talk to you about actor Alec Baldwin, earlier this week, he was a victim in a legal case, now he is the accused in another.

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LEMON: A Cincinnati man who lost his wife in a deadly car crash is suing the woman's former employer, blaming them for what happened. Jim Jasper says, the hospital where she worked as a nurse, the hospital worked her to death, with long hours and no breaks. Beth Jasper crashed her car last March while driving home after a 12-hour shift at Cincinnati's Jewish hospital. The family believes she may have fallen asleep behind the wheel. Her husband claims the hospital knew it was woefully understaffed. In addition to seeking damages, Jasper says, he wants the hospital to change its practices.

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JIM JASPER, BETH JASPER'S HUSBAND: It needs to change. You know, these nurses cannot be treated this way. The patient care, you know, is an issue. But they can't continue to work these nurses and expect them to pick up the slack because they don't want to staff the hospitals.

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A spokeswoman from Mercy Health Group expressed sympathy for the family but declined to comment on pending litigation.

Back with us now, Jeff Gardere, Holly Hughes. Holly, how do you prove that this hospital worked this woman to death?

HUGHES: What they need to do is prove causation, Don, that the hours were so long and that they knowingly contributed to her state when she was driving that vehicle. But I have to tell you, California is the only state in this nation that has what they call safe staffing ratio laws, which means in Ohio, this hospital, even though they made her work many hours, did not violate any laws. And I think that this husband, very tragically has an uphill battle to hold the hospital accountable. Because you need to prove that they were solely responsible. If this lady was that tired, the simple answer, as sad as it is, maybe she shouldn't have gotten in her car and driven. LEMON: She allegedly worked 12 hour shifts before this accident. But you hear cases of doctors and nurses working 16, 18-hour cases. Dr. Gardere, how can lack of sleep impact how we -- listen, I know --

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I haven't had a lot of sleep. Sorry. Some days I just can't get away from myself. You know? It can affect you.

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST & FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, we definitely recommend that you have to get seven to eight hours of sleep. If you're only getting five hours of sleep a night, a couple of nights of that, you are legally drunk when you are behind the wheel of a car.

LEMON: Really?

GARDERE: So it doesn't surprise me that she fell asleep. There's been the precedent -- you said it -- where medical students were working 24, 48-hour shifts and it resulted in the death of patients and they had to change those rules. And I think if we see -- Jim Jasper may have a hard time with one.

LEMON: Yeah.

GARDERE: But if we see more of these things happening with these nurses in these states, we will see some big changes.

LEMON: Six hours of sleep is a good night for me.

GARDERE: Six hour sis good for you --

LEMON: And that's a good night.

GARDERE: -- but think about five hours and you're doing that a couple nights in a row.

LEMON: Most of the people who work in this business get less than that. I get four, five hours of sleep every night. But that's how it works.

GARDERE: Yeah.

LEMON: OK. We're going to follow that case. That could set a precedent.

Let's talk about it's been a rough week for Alec Baldwin. He gave emotional testimony against an accused stalker, but he also angered GLAD after using an anti-gay slur -- Gay and Lesbian Alliance against Defamation is what GLAD is -- a slur aimed at a photographer. On top of that, MSNBC announced a two-week suspension for Baldwin's Friday evening show. He also wrote about it and says he's not even sure if it's coming back.

Holly, first, with the stalker case, this actress has been given 210 days in jail. HUGHES: Right.

LEMON: Is that appropriate sentence for what she allegedly -- for years?

HUGHES: I don't think so, Don. It's not going to address the problem. What I would have liked to have seen -- being stalked is frightening. It's happened to me personally. It is still ongoing. You don't know what that person out there is capable of. So she does need to be held accountable, but locking her in jail is not getting to the root of the problem, which Dr. Jeff will tell you is a psychological issue. She has imagined this entire relationship, even if there was a sexual affair one night, it doesn't mean the man is going to marry you. She consistently e-mailed him for years saying, marry me, let's get back together. I would have liked to have seen a very strict probationary period where she's on a wrap-around ankle monitor with a GPS to keep track of her.

LEMON: But, Holly, I want to move on to talk about the paparazzi thing. He has no culpability here because he was a willing participant if they did have a relationship, no?

HUGHES: OK, but that doesn't -- if it's a one-night stand, it's a one-night stand. Does that make him a dog? Yeah, a little bit.

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HUGHES: But does she get to stalk him forever? No.

GARDERE: And, Holly, she violated orders of protection against Baldwin and his wife. And she does have severe, I believe, mental health issues.

HUGHES: Right.

GARDERE: She needs help.

LEMON: OK, listen --

HUGHES: Right.

LEMON: -- really quickly, to the paparazzi thing. This isn't the first time Alec Baldwin has had issues with the paparazzi. Now, he's claiming the paparazzi were outside of his house and then he called them allegedly a gay slur. MSNBC is suspending his show. What is going on?

GARDERE: Well, that's an excuse. You don't do that. You don't lash out against people who are your fans. You don't lash out against people who are equal to you in every way. I think what's going on, he's having that meltdown. I think this case that he went through, this legal case, that really tore him up. It was very, very stressful. That, in addition to his history of acting out, not just against photographers but airline stewardesses and all sorts of issues. LEMON: Yeah. Yeah, listen, I'm not making excuses for Alec Baldwin. But if I walked outside of my house and I saw cameras like that every day, I would be ticked off. I would not -- but then, he is a star.

GARDERE: It goes with the territory.

LEMON: I know. Listen, what he said, he said it was terrible.

GARDERE: You've got to handle it in a healthier way.

LEMON: But people are standing outside of your house with cameras, come on.

GARDERE: I think he's getting it though, Don.

LEMON: Yeah.

GARDERE: He even wrote an apology and said he has to handle it better.

LEMON: Yeah. He should not have said what he said that he should be handling it differently. But still, that is frustrating.

LEMON: OK. A judge in Boston -- thank you, guys. We appreciate it.

A judge in Boston throws the book at one of America's most notorious mobsters. James "Whitey" Bulger, who gets not one but two life sentences and then some for his crimes. Closure for a lot of victims, but what about those who are closest to him?

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LEMON: So he ran Boston's Irish mob, becoming one of the nation's most-wanted and notorious men. Now James "Whitey" Bulger will spend the rest of his life in prison. The 84-year-old was sentenced Thursday to two life sentences, plus five years in his role in 11 murders, drug trafficking, racketeering, extortion and other crimes. You can go on and on and on. Inside the court, relatives of murder victims had their chance to address Bulger, calling him among other things, a punk, even Satan.

Here's more reaction from outside the court.

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CARMEN ORTIZ, U.S. ATTORNEY: Mr. Bulger, who spent 16 years on the FBI's Most-Wanted list, was a terrorist, and is a terrorist. He terrorized individuals that crossed his path, a path driven by his desire for power, greed and ambition.

TOMMY DONAHUE, FATHER OF VICTIM: To hell with him. You know what I mean? He's hurt so many people. He's done so many ratty things. The next time I want to hear anything about him is, hopefully, he's dead.

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LEMON: My goodness.

Joining me now from Boston is someone who knew and worked with Bulger, John "Red" Shea.

Good to see you. How are you doing, sir?

JOHN "RED" SHEA, AUTHOR: Doing well, Don. How are you?

LEMON: I'm great.

You wrote a book about Bulger, called "Rat Bastards." There's the cover of the book right here, John "Red" Shea. It's called "Rat Bastards."

Let's begin with the sentence. Is this justice served?

SHEA: Well, I mean, it's justice served for the families, obviously. For me, personally, I don't feel that justice has been served.

LEMON: You don't? Why not?

SHEA: Well, you know, Don, as I talk about in my book "Rat Bastards" -- and I think we've talked about this before, me and you, on another program about I have this occurring dream, this occurring dream about meeting Whitey in New York, seeing him in the street and pulling him into a building and asking him why. Why he gave me up, his own man, the guy who was so loyal to him, why he gave me up? And the only answer I got out of him in the dream was, he was trying to protect me. And at that point in the dream, I snapped his neck. That said -- that said, Don, I have a feeling that my subconscious is never going to leave me.

LEMON: This is something you'll never get over?

SHEA: In my subconscious of that dream, of snapping his neck, is never going to leave me, Don.

LEMON: If you had the chance, John, you said you want to snap his neck. I don't know if you would do it. Do you think that would make you just like him or would you still do it any way?

SHEA: I think justice would be met.

LEMON: All right. A man of few words. Tells it like it is.

He was ordered, John, to pay over $19 million to the families of the victims. Do you think they'll ever see a penny of this money?

SHEA: Never. Never. There's $800,000 that they do have, that they -- when they captured him that he had, so they do have that. But, you know, logistically, there were a lot of people in line waiting for that money. It depends who filed first, most likely, to get that money. I'm sure there will be a battle over that money, that $800,000. But, I guess, you know, logistically, whoever put the paperwork in first to get that money, whoever is in order. But there is $800,000 as we know. LEMON: John "Red" Shea, the book is called "Rat Bastards," and he writes all about "Whitey" Bulger and his time with the mob, as well.

Thank you, John. Always a pleasure.

SHEA: Thank you.

LEMON: So much for battling it out on the field. A college football quarterback allegedly attacked by members of the other team at the pre-game banquet. That's ahead.

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LEMON: Look who's here.

I mean, I think it's -- is it past your bedtime, Candy Crowley? You've got --

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CANDY CROWLEY, HOST, STATE OF THE UNION: Yes, as a matter of fact.

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LEMON: You've got a lot to do tomorrow.

She's the anchor of our program here on CNN called "State of the Union" on Sunday.

Candy, tell us about a very special guest that you're talking to tomorrow.

CROWLEY: We will talk to the prime minister of Israel. In fact, just completed that interview. You know, Don, in the past couple of weeks, as the U.S. and five other nations have been talking to Iran about a deal that might lift some of the sanctions and, in exchange, Iran would maybe freeze some of its nuclear program, Israel has been the most outspoken against it, saying this is no way to approach Iran. Now what we have on Capitol Hill are a number of people saying, look, what we need here is more sanctions against Iran and that will make them give even more concessions at the table. The Israeli ambassador has been on Capitol Hill pushing for more sanctions against Iran. The U.S. secretary of state has been on Capitol Hill saying, don't put on more sanctions. So the U.S. and Israel are kind of butting heads in all sorts of places, including on Capitol Hill.

And I did ask the prime minister about that and basically his relationship, now Israel's relationship with the U.S., and here's some of what he said.

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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: Friends, the best of friends can have different opinions. We agree on a lot of things. There's some things we disagree on. And by the way, I don't think this is -- from what I gather, is not a partisan issue, either. There are Democrats who are --

CROWLEY: There are.

NETANYAHU: -- calling for tougher sanctions and there are Republicans who are saying keep the sanctions as they are. I'm speaking not from a partisan issue, except one: I'm the prime minister of Israel, and I have to care for the survival of my country. And Iran maintaining its nuclear weapons capability, that is. The capacity to produce nuclear weapons, threatens directly the future of the Jewish state.

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CROWLEY: Or as you said, Don, he's in the neighborhood. He points out that there are other Arab nations, among them Saudi Arabia, who also don't like these talks going on. I asked him, what would you do if they do get a deal? And he said, the United States understands I'll do what I have to do to protect Israel.

LEMON: All right. Candy Crowley, can't wait to see it and I can't wait to see the discussion tomorrow. It's going to be interesting on the week the president has had.

Thank you very much, Candy Crowley.

Tomorrow morning, 9:00 eastern, tune in, set your DVRs. "State of the Union," with Candy's exclusive interview with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Again, tomorrow morning, 9:00 eastern, then again at noon.

Alleged hazing inside the Miami Dolphins' locker room. One player inactive, another suspended. What changes will come to the NFL locker room and how soon? We're going to talk about it, next.

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LEMON: A college football conference calling off its title game after a brutal fight at a pre-game banquet. Listen to this. One Virginia State player allegedly beat up quarterback, Rudy Johnson, of Winston Salem State, the team they were scheduled to play the next day. According to his school, one Virginia State player has been arrested on criminal assault charges. School officials are disappointed for players and for fans.

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NANCY YOUNG, WINSTON SALEM STATE UNIVERSITY: You've got players, you've got families, you've got fans that are in town that were looking for ward to what was going to be an exciting weekend and those planned are all go awry now.

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LEMON: Johnson was treated and has already been released from the hospital.

Lawyers for the NFL had a long talk with Miami Dolphins player Jonathan Martin yesterday, nearly seven hours. Martin was in New York where he detailed the abuse he says he suffered in the locker room. Fellow player Richie Incognito has been suspended, accused of harassing Martin. Incognito, this week, filed a grievance with the league, hoping to be reinstated by the team despite the controversy though, Martin says he wants to play again.

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JONATHAN MARTIN, MIAMI DOLPHINS PLAYER: I look forward to speaking with Stephen Ross, Tom Garflinkle (ph), and the Dolphins organization at the appropriate time. This is the right way to handle the matter. Beyond that, I look forward to working through the process and resuming my career in the National Football League.

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LEMON: Let's talk about it with Terrence Moore. He's a sports contributor to CNN.com and a columnist for MLB.com.

Before we get to -- in that grievance Incognito filed, over 1,000 text messages between -- I mean, come on. What?

TERRENCE MOORE, SPORTS CONTRIBUTOR, CNN.COM & COLUMNIST, MLB.COM: That's an awful lot. He didn't have time to sleep, drink, or do anything else. It's bizarre and really makes you wonder, Don, what's going on there.

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LEMON: Yeah.

MOORE: I'll leave it at that.

LEMON: Yes, let's leave it. I don't know anyone that I'm that close to that I send more than 50 text messages over the last year.

Listen, Terrence, regardless of when Richie and Incognito return to the field and regardless of what happens to Jonathan Martin, do you see big changes ahead for all NFL locker rooms?

MOORE: It's going to be huge. Whenever you get legislation and legality involved in anything, people have a tendency to panic, particularly in sports. We have already seen that in the National Football League when it comes to concussions. Besides paying $800 million out in settlements, you have the NFL changing how you tackle, the rules to tackling. Nobody knows how to tackle in the league anymore. And the one thing nobody brings up, they also changed the way that you practice. They are not practicing anymore. You have all these injuries out there. You get 11 NFL quarterbacks on the injured reserve list. What's happening is your having a backlash from that legislation. Whatever comes out of this, the Incognito-Martin, thing is going to be a backlash because they are going to overdo it.

LEMON: Yeah. And you have heard the controversy about the overuse of the "N" word. And we've talked about it a little bit.

MOORE: Yeah.

LEMON: Do you think it's going to make people think twice or change the way people communicate with each other in locker rooms? There was a player, another professional ballplayer, fined for using that word saying, "I'm tired of taking off or getting my butt handed to me." I'm paraphrasing for these "N" words.

MOORE: I don't care what you're talking about, Don, is that you've got to put this in context. This is a societal thing with these guys. OK. I was just talking to my godson earlier today. He's 22 years old. He said that this is the way his friends communicate. They communicate with each other this way. They're all part of this hip- hop culture where vulgarity goes, where disrespecting women goes, disrespecting each other goes. Now, you have the National Football League trying to legislate it? This is who these guys are. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying that this is just the way it is.

In the National Football League, the bottom line is winning. Now, you are going to try to turn them into the Huxtables from "The Cosby Show" --

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-- between tackling and blocking? I don't think it's going to happen.

LEMON: Well, the thing is, is that I don't think you can change anyone, right?

MOORE: No.

LEMON: But the locker room is a workplace.

MOORE: It is.

LEMON: The football field is a workplace and you have to have certain behavior. You have to behave accordingly in a workplace. I think it is just that simple, Terrence.

MOORE: Well, yeah. That is why this panic that is going to set in, the NFL is going to do this and that, and all these different rule changes, and it's going to make a bad situation even worse.

LEMON: OK. Terrence Moore, love talking to you.

A quick reminder. Terrence is going to be back tomorrow. We'll talk about this. He'll be joined by former NFL running back, Jamal Anderson, at 5:00 eastern. We'll talk more about pro athletes, the locker room culture, and the surprisingly popular use of the "N" word. It's going to be an honest and provocative conversation. You don't want to miss that tomorrow at 5:00 eastern on CNN.