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Bieber's Breathalyzer Results Released; Interview With Mackenzie Phillips; Cheerleader Suing NFL Team

Aired January 24, 2014 - 15:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour, we continue on. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

And I have to begin with something so chilling, these 911 tapes just released to CNN involving a woman who had her world just shattered before her very eyes inside of a Florida movie theater. Nicole Oulson's husband was texting their baby-sitter just last Monday during a preview, but a man got so upset over this texting, an alleged altercation happened.

Police say the man pulled out a gun and shot and killed Chad Oulson. Nicole, the wife, was shot in the finger. He is charged, this former police officer, with murder, claims it was self-defense.

And now to the 911 tapes giving us insight into that tragic afternoon.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Nine-one-one. What is the address of your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's been a gunshot at the Cobb theater, movie theater, Cobb and Wesley Chapel gunshots. Looks like above the sternum, a gunshot, pistol.

911 OPERATOR: OK. How old is the person?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know, maybe late 20s, early 30s.

911 OPERATOR: It's a male?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Male, male, yes, sir.

911 OPERATOR: Somebody shot him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, someone shot.

911 OPERATOR: Do you know who shot him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know. Looks like an older gentlemen in the movie theater.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Listening to those, Martin Savidge, you have listened to them over and over. And the voice, the man was a nurse. MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Correct.

And that's what you really have to understand with the sort of dynamic drama that is going on. This is a person who of course witnessed the crime. This is the person who is now notifying the authorities of what has happened.

But, in an amazing kind of I guess dual management here, he is reporting the crime while at the same time actively trying to save his life. He is struggling with the 911 operator because the operator is more focused on where is the shooter. Listen to the rest of this.

BALDWIN: OK.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Is he still in there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry?

911 OPERATOR: Is he still in there?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, he is.

911 OPERATOR: The suspect is still in the movie theater? The suspect is still in the movie theater?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, yes, yes, yes.

911 OPERATOR: I'm going to get you to the sheriff's office.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

I'm on the phone with them right now.

Can someone start doing chest compressions? Is there a pulse? OK. Come on, buddy, breathe.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: You hear that drama in the background there. He is literally telling people, somebody start chest compressions. Come on, buddy. Come on, buddy. Breathe. Just talk about miraculous multitasking that this man is trying to do with another nurse. That's interesting.

BALDWIN: I am sure police too, knowing what happened in that movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, were thinking there could have been an active shooter.

(CROSSTALK)

SAVIDGE: And that's exactly right. They were. They were horrified because they thought, oh, my Gosh, it is going to be Colorado all over again. You can't say they were thankful with the outcome because they definitely were not. They just realized they went from what they thought was a mass casualty event to an event that most people just have -- just find hard to comprehend.

BALDWIN: Still, still. Martin, thank you very much.

Now to a teacher, a teacher who came across a shooter at a New Mexico middle school 10 days ago and thought he was going to die. But state police say John Masterson got the 10-year-old boy to put his shotgun now. Masterson just talked about the attack left two students wounded.

The eighth grade teacher said he wanted to run away, but thoughts of other students getting hurt forced him to confront this boy.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN MASTERSON, TEACHER: Next thing you know, boom and boom. It all broke loose. In a fraction of seconds, you go from everything is great to a tragedy.

You go from kind of a little bit of panic to fear. You are shaking. Your adrenaline is pumping. And all you are thinking about is, my God, this can't be happening. This really is not happening. I just yelled. Put it down. Put it down. And he did.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: The boy and girl who were hit are recovering, but the boy, latest word, was in critical condition.

Taking a look at Wall Street, not looking good here as we end the week with a bust, down 256 points here, about 55 minutes away from the closing bell. Yesterday's 180-point drop really not at all as bad as what we are seeing right now.

(STOCK MARKET UPDATE)

BALDWIN: And depending on where you live, you are experiencing either extreme cold or extreme heat. Arctic temperatures and hot, dry continue to grip both ends of the country. And, boom, smack dab in the middle of the country, you have Texas. Look at the ice, ice storm putting the chill on Houston and in Austin.

(WEATHER UPDATE)

BALDWIN: Coming up next, speaking of football, they are supposed to pump up fans and players and be loyal to the team through the good times and the bad. But one NFL cheerleader taking a stand against her team, she is suing the Los Angeles (sic) Raiders. This Raiderette says she was being paid below minimum wage. And that's not all. We will talk to her live.

Plus, Justin Bieber's Breathalyzer test results are in, and now three police officers connected to the pop star are suspended from the force. We will tell you why.

And we will talk live to Mackenzie Phillips. Here she is,former child star,been all over TV, movies, been to rehab a number of times. She says you can tell a lot from Justin Bieber's mug shot when you look at his eyes. That's next.

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BALDWIN: Justin Bieber changed with DUI. We know he failed his field sobriety test. And now CNN has just learned his Breathalyzer came back under .08, right? You know that's the legal limit. But here's the but.

That may not help the pop star's case, because in Florida, anyone under the age of 21 cannot have a blood alcohol level above .02. Also, we have learned Justin Bieber speaking out via Instagram for the very first time about his arrest. Let's take a look at this together.

You see this? Left-side of the screen, that is the video we saw of Justin Bieber leaving Miami-Dade jail yesterday waving to his fans. Let me tell you, there were a lot of them out there apparently. On the right side, the late Michael Jackson waving to his crowd during his criminal trial years ago.

The image of Jackson is blurred, but in the photo caption, this is what Justin Bieber wrote. "What more can they say?" OK? That's from Justin Bieber. This is the star's first arrest despite a rash of run- ins with police.

It sparked conversation about these young, younger stars going wild.

One childhood Hollywood star is all too familiar with the trials and tribulations of being famous, Mackenzie Phillips, who starred as the rebellious teen in the 1970s classic "American Graffiti" and in the popular sitcom "One Day at a Time."

Phillips battled drug and alcohol addiction for many, many years and has been very public in sharing her story. She is now very passionate talking about treatment and recovery.

And Mackenzie Phillips joins me now from Los Angeles.

Mackenzie, thank you.

MACKENZIE PHILLIPS, ACTRESS: Thank you, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Let's begin with -- let's throw up the picture of the Justin Bieber mug shot, because I read something pretty interesting that you said, because we all see the smile, right? But you say you see something different in his eyes. What is that?

PHILLIPS: Yes.

I mean, look, I think he looks frightened. Of course, we all know that he is very arrogant and he's minimizing and all that kind of stuff, but I see a scared little kid who is smiling, trying -- trying to not realize what's really happening to him.

BALDWIN: Do you speak about the fear because you can empathize? You grew up in the public eye. You were on TV, in the movies. How much pressure did you feel?

PHILLIPS: I know what it's like to be under 21 and very wealthy and very famous, and even before the advent of social media and the Internet with photos and information going worldwide in a nanosecond, and the pressure was incredible.

But what Justin does now is what we need to look at, because we as a culture, we trivialize and we ridicule and we laugh at wasted celebrities, when in fact what we are doing is a great disservice to people who are really in a life-and-death battle fighting for their lives and trying to recover from addiction and alcoholism.

In my work at Pasadena Recovery Center as their treatment and recovery advocate, I see it every day, minimizing, laughing, arrogance. It's pretty textbook reactions to this kind of stuff.

BALDWIN: I don't know the inner workings of what he does or doesn't do. We know according to Miami police, he told police that he had had alcohol and he had smoked pot and that also he had taken prescription pills.

But I'm curious. Let's throw that Instagram picture back up, because I would love your reaction to this, to the what was he thinking question, putting himself next to Michael Jackson in the thick of not a great situation for either of them at the time. Do you think he gets it? Do you think he gets what's happening?

PHILLIPS: I don't think he gets what's happening.

I think -- I don't know who is around him. I have never met the young guy, but I think that it's this idea that the rules don't apply to him. I know what it's like growing up to think that the rules that don't apply to you.

BALDWIN: How are you taught that?

(CROSSTALK)

PHILLIPS: How was I taught that?

BALDWIN: Yes.

PHILLIPS: By my father that, well, you are a Phillips. You can do whatever you want.

It took many years for me to realize that that's just a load of crap and that we are all beholden to a certain standard of behavior. And you either learn it the easy way or you learn it the hard way, when you break out in handcuffs.

BALDWIN: Here he was, $2,500, a drop in the bucket for this guy who is worth millions and millions of dollars. That's what his bond was yesterday.

Moving forward, for you, speaking from experience, what was the catalyst that ultimately helped you turn things around, and how might this apply to Bieber?

PHILLIPS: When I was arrested at LAX in 2008 for felony possession, I publicly thanked the Los Angeles Police Department and the Los Angeles Airport Police Department for stopping me in my tracks and waking me up.

The universe constantly knocks on our consciousness as addicts and alcoholics, wake up, wake up.

BALDWIN: But you don't want to listen, do you?

PHILLIPS: No, you don't want to listen because it's an allergy of the and an obsession of the mind. And it's a very tricky thing to recover from.

So, what Justin does now is really going to inform the rest of his life. He is only 19, for crying out loud. I read somewhere that they are talking to him about going into talk therapy, instead of going into a residential treatment center. I really think he just needs to stop fighting this thing and get some help.

BALDWIN: To listen to the knocks.

PHILLIPS: It's hard when you have the world at your fingertips and you are a young kid and you just think you are living a life. How do you express your success?

It's a very difficult thing. And I have a lot of compassion for him and for other people like him, because it's me.

BALDWIN: You have been there. You have been there. Mackenzie Phillips, thank you so much for joining us.

PHILLIPS: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Want you to also catch a CNN special. We're calling it "Justin Bieber's Wild Ride." It airs tonight 10:00 Eastern here on CNN.

Just quickly last hour, we had a banner. This is the thing that is on the bottom of the screen that stated that Bieber blew a .08. He blew under that. We were clear in copy, but he blew under that, according to sources. We apologize for that error there.

Coming up next, football vs. finances. But we are not talking about players on the field here. An Oakland Raiders cheerleaders, Oakland, filing suit against her team. We are talking to this Raiderette live. Hear why she is suing and why she wants other cheerleaders, other Raiderettes to join her.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: A special event next year could draw Pope Francis to the United States for his very first visit. This is what we're getting from Vatican sources, telling CNN the pope plans to visit the U.S. in September of next year.

That month, by the way, just in terms of guessing where he may be visiting, the city of Philadelphia will be hosting the World Meeting of Families. It's a Catholic event held every three years. Pope Francis has been focused on the experience of families since becoming the leader of the Catholic Church.

And we can also confirm that President Obama will be meeting the pope at the Vatican on the 27th of March.

All right, this is what is trending. This is what a lot of you are talking about. This Raiderette -- let's show the picture here -- her name is Lacy T. She is seen on the team Web site. When she is not cheering for the Oakland Raiders, she is a stay-at-home mom, born in Louisiana.

And, of course, Lacy wants the Oakland Raiders to win on the field, but not in court, because that's because she is suing the California team for low pay. Her lawsuit says she gets paid $1,250 for the season. Do the math. That's $125 per game, which means she makes fewer than $5 an hour due to the appearances and rehearsals she needs to attend.

Plus, she gets fined if she is late. The Raiders, they have no comment. We have of course reached out.

And Lacy T. joins me now.

So, Lacy, welcome. Nice to have you on.

LACY T., OAKLAND RAIDERS CHEERLEADER: Thank you.

BALDWIN: And I should be clear, we are not giving your last name because your contract prevents you from revealing your last name. So, we will just go with Lacy.

LACY T.: That's correct.

BALDWIN: Here's my first question to you, because you knew -- signing up for this job, you knew what you would be paid. So, why did you take the job?

LACY T.: Yes, so, when we are doing our contract, yes, it does say in the contract that is what we will be paid.

And you have to understand my mind frame and everyone else's at that moment. We just worked extremely hard to make this team. This is our dream job. And in that moment, it's safe to say that it's almost like, where do I sign? Let's just make it official and get the season started.

(CROSSTALK) BALDWIN: But a contract is a contract is a contract. I'm under contract. I'm not so sure I could change what I -- it's legal. It's binding. It's on paper. Tell me, though, tell me what you are upset with specifically.

LACY T.: Yes.

So, soon after the season started and I signed this legal contract, as you say, I started having some feelings that maybe things were not so legal. I was working three times a week with practices. I was going to events, paying so much money out of pocket.

And, at that moment, I realized this is a lot different than the NBA. I didn't have any out-of-pocket expenses when I danced for the Golden State Warriors and I was paid an hourly wage for all hours worked. It didn't matter if it was practice or photo shoots.

And I received a paycheck every two weeks. When I took my contract home to my husband, he immediately said, Lacy, let's get a second opinion on this. And at that moment, when I sat down with this great team of lawyers, they said, Lacy, this contract has the most illegal provisions I have seen in an employment contract. And we have been working in employment law for 25 years.

And so when you say a legal contract and it's binding and all that, when you take into the fact that...

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: So, you can hire lawyers and try to fight contracts, absolutely.

But what about -- OK, so you talked to your husband, but what about fellow Raiderettes? Have you gotten any of them on board? Can you have any kind of class-action lawsuit here?

LACY T.: I'm the class representative, and I'm fighting on behalf of the current and past Raiderettes for the past three years. And I have had some positive support from Raiderettes. They have contacted me.

But you have to understand, it's very scary. This is our dream job. We worked extremely hard to be on this team and to maintain our spot on this team. So, I think a lot of people are really scared. The media attention is extremely intimidating for most people.

And to get their name out there and potentially end their career is scary. Yes, as of right now, I'm the only one standing up for the team and hopefully all the NFL cheerleaders.

BALDWIN: Let me ask you, then, because I know hearing you have a child or maybe you have more than one. I know living in the Bay Area is not cheap. Is there any one thing that the Oakland Raiders said, OK, we will give you this to remove, to take the lawsuit away, what would it be?

LACY T.: I don't know if it's -- it's not even about money. BALDWIN: It's not?

LACY T.: It's about them paying everyone on the team for the hours that we worked and to change the contract to where next year's Raiderettes get paid every two weeks.

(CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: So it is about making more money?

(CROSSTALK)

LACY T.: I'm sorry, what was that?

BALDWIN: So, it is, though, a little bit about making more money.

LACY T.: Obviously, we are working. We are working really hard and we are extremely talented. And it is a competitive job. And, at the end of the day, it is a job, whether it's a part-time or a full-time job. Any hour that you work in a week, you expect to be paid under the law.

BALDWIN: We will follow this with you, Lacy, and see -- see if you get what you want. Lacy T., thank you so much, Oakland Raiderette.

LACY T.: Thank you.

BALDWIN: It's a controversial case that is making national headlines here. Marlise Munoz is brain-dead. She's this pregnant woman. She's been in this hospital in Texas. Her family, her husband so badly wants to remove the breathing tube, but the state says no. They say that's against Texas law.

In less than an hour, a judge may make a ruling on this case. And we have just gotten some new information as it pertains to the hearing. We will share it for you next.

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