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Boehner: Trust In Obama At Issue; Senate Again Fails To Advance Unemployment Bill; MLK Children Fight Over His Bible, Nobel Prize; Who To Watch: U.S. Olympic Athletes; Phone Apps Redefine Dating Game

Aired February 06, 2014 - 14:30   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: And now we go to Washington for this. Just last week, he says got to get done, today, he said it won't. He here is House Speaker John Boehner. The it is immigration reform. So who's fault is it that it is not moving forward, not his, says John Boehner.

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REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BOEHNER (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: There is widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation until that changes.

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BALDWIN: How about that? House Speaker John Boehner coming out and saying the president cannot be trusted to enforce the law. So reforming the immigration laws probably won't happen as the president as we know really, really wants.

Gloria Borger, let me bring you in, our chief political correspondent. Those are strong words from the House speaker that the president cannot be trusted. Why is Boehner trying to make this immigration debate into something bigger than that?

GLORIA BORGER, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL ANALYST: The use of the word trust is not a coincidence, Brooke. It is very deliberate because they are looking at the polls over the last six months and know that the president is very vulnerable on the question of whether he is honest and trustworthy.

Over the last six or seven months his number on that has gone down a dozen points. A lot of that is due to the Obamacare, you know, if you like your health care before, you can keep it, problem. So what they are trying to do is lay the blame at the president's feet, saying we don't trust him to do what needs to be done first in order to get immigration reform.

BALDWIN: Do you think there is anything else at work with regard to Boehner and immigration?

BORGER: Yes, there is a lot of work and it has to do with the Republican Party. First of all, there is no agreement inside the Republican Party about how to best reform immigration. There are some Republicans who would say OK, we do want a path to citizenship and there are others who say absolutely not. So they don't have that resolved in their own party.

Secondly, you are heading into a mid-term election. Lots of Republicans say don't take the focus off of Obamacare. Why do we want to start talking about immigration when we have a terrific issue in terms of Obamacare? Then others say you know what, the timing is bad. Let's wait. See if we take control of the Senate in 2014 and you have a Republican House and a Republican Senate and then maybe we really would be able to get a deal that we like.

BALDWIN: I see. They hoped.

BORGER: A lot going on there.

BALDWIN: Thank you very much, in D.C. for us. Let's stay in D.C. because let me tell you what's happening right now. The U.S. Senate, here she is, Dana Bash, she knows the U.S. Senate voting on whether or not to extend the jobless benefits, the unemployment benefits. Dana Bash, what's the news?

BORGER: The answer once again is no. This vote is the latest attempt to extend the emergency unemployment benefits that expired in December failed by just two votes. It was 58-40 and didn't get the 60 needed to break the filibuster. Four Republicans voted with all the Democrats in order to say that what they wanted to do with this particular attempt was to extend those expired benefits for three months and Democrats had a way to pay for it.

You were talking to Gloria about a lot of the dynamics going on politically with Republicans. Well, this is a big, big dynamic for Democrats. They knew going into this vote that they most likely didn't have the votes to approve this. They also know that going into this mid-term election year, the issue of income inequality. Brooke, you've been talking about it. I have been talking about it.

BALDWIN: The president has been talking about it.

BASH: This is the top issue. So politically that is a big thing. I wanted to keep taking a whack at this and they have the ability to do that because they control the floor of the United States Senate. There have been legitimate earnest bipartisan negotiations continuing over the past couple of months at this point trying to figure out how to extend these expired benefits.

We are talking about well over a million people who lost their long-term benefits at the end of the December. They haven't gotten there yet. Despite that, Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader said let me just put it on the floor and see where things go. So that is exactly what just happened on the Senate floor. Of course, this was just the latest attempt to do this and they started doing it when they came back in January.

BALDWIN: So for those 1 million Americans, no dice on the unemployment benefits. Dana Bash, our chief congressional correspondent, thank you so much for the update there. Coming up, some members of Dr. Martin Luther King's family are in court battling over his most precious items. You're looking at one of them here. This is the bible, his Nobel Peace Prize. Bernice King says her brothers want to sell the items. You will hear straight from her coming up next.

But first, you know him as the rough and tough patriarch of the Orange County chopper's family, but what you may not have known about Paul Teutul Senior is that he is a recovering addict.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Grimy. Blowing things up and building bikes. It's what Paul Teutul Sr., the star of the show "Orange County Choppers" does best. There was a time that Teutul's future didn't seem so bright.

PAUL TEUTUL SR., FOUNDER, ORANGE COUNTY CHOPPERS: I started early drinking and getting high and back then you think that that stuff is going go away as you get older. What it does it is gets progressively worse.

GUPTA: As a younger guy, Teutul and his bodies hit the sauce early and often.

TEUTUL: I could drink a quart of whiskey at lunchtime and go back to work.

GUPTA: After years of giving everything to alcohol, he realized it all came down to a simple choice, live or die.

TEUTUL: I was pretty fortunate that I was able to get a 12-step program. I went nine years straight and I was afraid to miss a meeting.

GUPTA: He began to change, but his friends didn't.

TEUTUL: Just because I stopped drinking, didn't mean everything else did. Everybody I associated myself with drank and drank hard. The first two years was really tough.

GUPTA: The consequences were dire.

TEUTUL: I had a partner. He was 35 years old. I got sober and he didn't. He died the same year.

GUPTA: That's why senior who is now sober for 29 years continues to share his story.

TEUTUL: After 12 years of TV, being myself and everybody knows that how -- crazy I am. It's no secret. I always look at it, if I can get sober, anybody can.

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN reporting.

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BALDWIN: He is an American icon, a symbol of peace and equality and really just a national treasure in his own right. But right now, the children of the late Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. caught up in this bitter battle over two things he left behind. First, his personal bible, the same one that President Obama used when he was sworn in for his second term and Dr. King's Nobel Peace Prize.

Now his sons, Martin Luther King III and Dexter King, they want their sister, Bernice King, to hand them over. On paper this is the estate versus Bernice King, but it's really brothers versus sister. Today on CNN, Bernice King, made it clear she wants nothing to do with anything that would mean selling these two precious pieces of American history.

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BERNICE KING, MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.'S DAUGTHER: These are items that my father himself would not sell. He gave away every dime of the Nobel Peace Prize money. I believe if he were here today he would feel that way and so I can't speak to, you know, what went wrong and why my brothers have voted to sell those two items. I just know that I am absolutely opposed to them and I know without a shadow of doubt that my father would be opposed.

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BALDWIN: Victor Blackwell just came back from the news conference. We will get to that in a minute. But first we were talking in commercial break and this was sad, first of all, it's sad to see this happening. But it's not the first there has been battles within this family.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's been tough for people who idolize the King family to watch this over the years. This is not the first time there have been battles. It's not the first time that a King family member has sued another over money or holdings. But Bernice King said this is different because it is about, as she says, her daddy's bible. The bible that then formed his faith as he traveled across the south, fighting bigotry and hatred and that 1964 Nobel Peace Prize that she says her father saw as a validation of his theory of nonviolence in the civil rights movement.

BALDWIN: OK, so that's the significance behind these two pieces of history. Next, due to the fact that you just came back from Ebenezer Baptist, just down the road from us here at CNN where Dr. King, his father preached. Bernice King was there. They held a news conference. What did she say?

BLACKWELL: Well, she said, first, that there is no way, not on her watch will this bible or the Nobel Peace Prize be sold and she said that if she willingly participated in the sale, it would haunt her conscience for the rest of her life. She says this started on January 20th. I don't know if it's irony or coincidence, that that's the date that they celebrated her father's life. But she was contacted by Dexter King and Martin King III about selling these items. She then said that she would not hand them over. They are in her possession, but she is not going to give them back to the estate. She says that she was different from her brother. They had different minds. Different perspectives and that led her to say this, which is the first time I've heard this. Listen.

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KING: I wish to ask my friends and the media, the thinking public and all the people of good will respectfully from this point on, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from grouping me with my brothers.

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BALDWIN: Wow.

BLACKWELL: So when you say now that King's children or the King family, she doesn't want to be lumped in with Dexter and Martin III. Now we must say that we've reached out to them several times, at least a half dozen. There is no mention of the sale in the lawsuit. We haven't heard from them directly that that's exactly what they are going do, but according to Bernice, they want them so they can sell them.

BALDWIN: Victor Blackwell, thank you very much. It is now game on for U.S. Olympic athletes qualifying events happening right now in Sochi for the winter games. Opening ceremonies, folks, are hours away that happens tomorrow and the host of CNN's sports show "UNGUARDED," Rachel Nichols tells us who to watch for.

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RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Without Lindsay Vonn, who will emerge as the favorite face of these Olympics. Is that person Lolo Jones? Yes, that Lolo Jones. We last saw Lolo in a different sport, hurdling at the Summer Olympics in 2012 and 2008. But a year and a half ago, she began training for the bobsled and now with some controversy, she is on the U.S. team. Jones never won a medal in London or Beijing. She hopes to nab her first in Sochi.

LOLO JONES, MEMBER, U.S. OLYMPIC BOBSLED TEAM: I'm surprised that how strong it makes you and how much if it's so well with track and field and how they get the bobsled. I feel like I should have done this years ago.

NICHOLS: America's new darling in women's figure skating with her name alone, Gracie Gold is a contender and she is delivering on the ice too, winning her first national title in January.

GRACIE GOLD, U.S. OLYMPIC FIGURE SKATER: You get to be part of such a rich history in women's figure skating representing the United States. I think that's just sort of exciting to have your name on the list of skaters. NICHOLS: And then there is Ashley Wagner, her selection to the U.S. team was controversial. Wagner placed fourth at last month's U.S. championships, falling twice. Historically only the top three earned Olympic spots, but this time, the selection committee awarded Wagner a spot over third place finisher and Vancouver Olympian, Mariah Nagasu. U.S. skating officials felt Wagner's overall body of work, two wins in previous U.S. championships and her fifth place finish at last year's world championships made her a better candidate for Sochi.

ASHLEY WAGNER, U.S. OLYMPIC FIGURE SKATER: To have these girls who are pushing me, I know that they are at the rink working hard.

NICHOLS: Rough and tough more your style? As evidenced by this brawl, the U.S. and Canadian women's hockey teams do not like each other. Canada is a three-time defending gold medallists. The Americans have the only other gold in Olympic Women's hockey, one during the sports inaugural year in 1998.

Don't expect the tension between these two to thaw any time soon and on the men's side, once again, NHL rivals become teammates as the U.S. hockey team looks to rebound from its heart breaking overtime loss to Canada and the game in Vancouver.

PATRICK KANE, MEMBER, U.S. Olympic Ice Hockey Team: You can have battles in the regular season and the team that needs to be put together for the Olympics and the United States. You find yourself sitting next to them and playing against them and with them.

NICHOLS: And of course there are the slopes, teenage skier, Mikaela Shiffrin won seven World Cup slaloms.

MIKAELA SHIFFRIN, U.S. OLYMPIC SKI RACER: When I'm racing over in Europe, all season, a lot of times I forget, I'm just Mikaela and I'm just a racer and that's it. Going to the Olympics and really wearing Team USA jacket is going to have a new whole meaning.

NICHOLS: There is always the U.S. team's most unusual Olympian, Bodie Miller. Raised in New Hampshire without electricity or running water, Miller is on his fifth Olympic team. He's 36 years old, making him the oldest Alpine Olympian in U.S. history. What's left in the tank? That's not an issue for snowboarder, Shaun White. He's a contender in Sochi and vying for his third Olympic gold medal. Will he be the face of Team USA? We will have to watch and see.

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BALDWIN: Rachel, thank you. We'll look for you in Sochi and speaking of Shaun White she mentioned him. He's another star and another name and you know his face. He withdrew from the new slope- style event while he is nursing this wrist injury he has. He said the slope-style course is an intimidating challenge that was his word, and he is now focusing on the half pipe hoping for the third gold medal there.

Coming up, technology might have made dating easier. Technology is in your phone. What about finding love? A new study said for many it may actually be harder than ever. You will hear why.

Plus, you are about to see a chase like you have never seen before straight from the lapel of a police officer.

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BALDWIN: Once upon a time you had Adam and Eve. Fast forward a couple of years, this. We are going talk now about the oldest game known to man and woman, the dating game. Not the old TV show. In fact, we can toss out everything pre-smart phone. Why? Because smartphone apps are changing everything, dating websites, so 2013, the thing is the way they things are designed is meeting someone, going on a date, is that really even the purpose anymore?

Laura Stampler wrote about this new dating game. It's an awesome story. Laura Stampler joins me now. You have done your own investigative journalism and you have tried out some of these apps. You can use some of them. I'm first wondering, how much time you actually spend just because it's like you flip through all these pictures versus spending times with dates.

LAURA STAMPLER, REPORTER, "TIME" MAGAZINE: For me personally, I spend a lot more time flipping through than I did actually communicating and meeting people. You know, these smart phones turned dating into a second experience. You are sitting in front of your TV, you are sitting with your roommate and you just kind of swipe through to see what people are out there. Sometimes it results in a match and that can be exciting and be an endorphin rush, but then there is also kind of the urge to see who else is out there, who else can I see, who I ran into a friend.

BALDWIN: I'm sure you do. There a lot of pictures as I have been educated on this today. You have some tips, Laura, for guys and gals to help sell themselves on these dating apps. Let me just run through some of this here for our viewers. For girls, you say go ahead and make the first move. Don't wait for the guy. Keep your messages short. Don't spam potential matches and stay away from the old don't message me if -- total buzz kill.

Guys, education, we want to know where got the degree. Ditch the pickup lines and tell us what sports you play and post pictures that make you natural or to quote your piece, Laura Stampler, not like a -- can see say this on CNN? A bad ass. What do you see as the biggest mistake both sexes can make?

STAMPLER: I think some of the mistakes that people make is kind of being too shallow in their swipe ink. First of all, if you are given three people who you could connect with, you don't focus on them having bad sneakers. If there 100, then apparent loafers when you wanted converse might be something that turns your way immediately.

BALDWIN: What?

STAMPLER: I don't know. People have different inclinations in terms of what they are looking for. If you know there 50 more people waiting for you, it's really easy to swipe no. I think that if the photo choice that you use is incredibly, incredibly important. It's your only chance really to show personality if you are climbing a mountain or someone who is adventurous.

If you are surrounded by friends, you are social. If you are taking a picture of yourself in front of a bathroom mirror winking, I appreciate that you clean your mirror, that's not what I want to see.

BALDWIN: The pictures people post. It's like do something real. When you meet somebody, it's a waste of time for everyone as well. Laura Stampler, "Time" magazine, pick up time as well. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

STAMPLER: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up, a stunning police chase and gun battles and tattoos and 16 miles of suspense. You got to stay here for this. That's next.

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BALDWIN: You are about to get caught up in a police chase like you have never been before. The target is a man with such disregard for the law he reportedly steals a patrol unit and takes the officers on a pursuit and shoots for them and has a tattoo of the words cop killer on his body.

Our Albuquerque affiliate, KRQE, reports the suspect Christopher Chase died, shot eight times on top of that and the gun battles were reported through your lapel. They have cameras here. They were being worn by officers involved. We are about to play the video and it appears the officer under fire and shoots back while in the car. The video cuts into the unit and engage what sounds like the whole out assault. Roll it.