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Did "Sex-Entitled" Movies Influence College Killer; Donald Sterling to Fight to Keep Clippers; German Tabloid Prints Kate Middleton Backside Photo; Hernandez Pleads Not Guilty to 2 More Murders; Barbara Eden Talks "I Dream of Jeannie."

Aired May 28, 2014 - 14:30   ET

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MEL ROBBINS, ATTORNEY & CNN COMMENTATOR: But I also believe kind of where you were going, too, which is this other point. People make movies to make money. The public is also responsible for continuing to show up to movies that treat women badly. This whole article made me so unbelievably angry.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: I think, Michael, I think you might be talking about this on your show this week. What is your biggest take away? I keep coming back to I was reading folks from Hollywood saying this is art, it is all in the perception of art. We as a society have this onus. Do you agree with that? It's all about mom and dad.

MICHAEL SMERCONISH, CNN HOST, SMERCONISH: I don't think there is anything new here. John Hinkley shot Ronald Reagan because he was trying to win favor with Jodi Foster. It does seem like there has been an uptick in the messages, the sexual messages that come from movies. But, my god, look at all of the people who watch these movies and listen to music and don't go out and kill people. This is a case primarily about mental health and I think we have got to keep our eye on that ball.

BALDWIN: I agree with you. We have talked about mental health the last couple of days, and we will continue to do so. That is the conservation.

Michael Smerconish, see you this weekend.

And, Mel Robbins, thank you very much -- both of you.

ROBBINS: Thanks you.

BALDWIN: Just ahead, we have to talk about Donald Sterling, lashing out at critics, saying he will fight to keep his L.A. Clippers team, with word that his wife is actually in talks. So what does that actually mean legally? We will discuss that.

Also ahead, Kate Middleton, a German tabloid has posted this compromising photo, shall we say, of her bare backside that some are really calling a breach of privacy. What do you think?

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: Welcome back. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Donald Sterling says he's not selling. The embattled Los Angeles Clippers owner responded to the NBA charges against him and he has made it crystal clear he's sticking around to fight. In Sterling's formal response, obtained by CNN, he called the league's proceedings against him draconian and a violation of his constitutional rights. This is an exert from the scathing 32-page response. Sterling says, quote, "A jealous rant to a lover never intended to be published cannot offend the NBA rules." He goes on with this. "We do not believe a court in the United States of America will enforce the draconian penalties imposed on Mr. Sterling in these circumstances, and, indeed, we believe that preservations of Mr. Sterling's constitutional rights requires that these sham proceedings be terminated in Mr. Sterling's favor."

CNN legal analyst, Sunny Hostin, is joining me now.

And before we even get into the Shelly Sterling, other half of this, when you hear these words, "draconian," "don't have a case," what jumps out at you?

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: I've been poring over this document, like most other legal nerds and analysts around the country. I've got to tell you, for me, Brooke, it does past the smell test. I've said from the beginning, we knew this was going to be game on. We know Donald Sterling is litigious by nature. He is a lawyer and we are litigious. We knew he was going to challenge the suspension and fine, and certainly taking the franchise from him.

It does have some legal sense because we are in unchartered territory. The NBA has never done what they are trying to do, which is try to take the franchise away from the owner. I think, bottom line, Brooke, is most people are uncomfortable with the notion that when you have a private conservation, however heinous, however distasteful, however horrible, can a result of that breach of your privacy end up in the taking of your property? That is something most people are very unconformable with. Ad I think it's something that a court will look at.

BALDWIN: Here you have Donald Sterling saying no, no, no, I'm fighting. And then you have Shelly Sterling saying that she is reportedly listening to bidders and considering sale of the team.

HOSTIN: Sure.

BALDWIN: How does that shake out?

HOSTIN: You know, it makes a lot of sense. I think it's a two- pronged attack. The one, they are saying we reserve our legal rights. We are going to fight this. And then you have Shelly, on the other hand -- reportedly Donald Sterling transferred some of his ownership or is allowing her to sell the team. And she's checking out to see what's going on. Are they going to get $2.5 billion for the team? Would that make sense? It makes sense that they are covering all of their bases -- (CROSSTALK)

BALDWIN: Is that what you're doing, working in cahoots thinking how might this work versus how much money could we be getting?

HOSTIN: Sure. This is a planned two-prong attack on the NBA. And it makes a lot of sense. If I were his lawyer, I would have advised the same thing. Look for the bidders but also preserve your rights and go on the attack.

BALDWIN: Sunny Hostin, thank you very much.

HOSTIN: Thanks, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Coming up next, this tabloid has posted a compromising photo of the Duchess of Cambridge, her bare backside, and some are calling it a breach of privacy. We will let you be the judge. Stay with us.

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BALDWIN: Let me tell you, not totally from personal experience, it is the woman's worst nightmare, and it happened to the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton. We'll show you -- not the actual picture. But you see the dress she's wearing? A blast of wind blew it up as she and Prince William visited Australia, definitely exposing her backside. Even worse, a photographer was there. Click. Got a shot of that. And it is now front page of a German tabloid, alongside pictures of Kim and Khloe Kardashian's backsides.

Our royal correspondent, CNN's Max Foster, is in London.

I've peaked at the photo and I would be furious.

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, but the debate around here is that this keep happening and she needs to sort it out. In this country, we don't show pictures that invade the royals' privacy too much. So the pictures were shown here. But the papers have gone as close as they can. So the picture here is blurred out and then they showed a load of other pictures where she's come close to exposing herself, as it were. But really, the debate here is about the words here. There is a commentary that Amanda Patel (ph) has written. Really polarized opinions. For example, she says, "Isn't it time that she, Kate, made some more effort to cover up"? She says, "It's all very well blaming the photographers but you're the future queen. It's time you took control of the situation." A lot of people have sympathy for that argument. Of course, there are those who think you shouldn't be showing the photographs at all -- Brooke?

BALDWIN: She is wearing a dress. It was wind. There was a photographer. I guess as a woman, I get frustrated because what is she supposed to do? I think, Max Foster, and this isn't new because they were in France and sunbathing and there were photos and they were splashed across newspapers. But they won that fight, didn't they?

FOSTER: They did. But they were topless photos and William really took objection to that so he took them to court. It happened in France, where they have very strong privacy laws. The palace knew they had a strong chance of winning. They won that case. This time, in Australia, the laws are a bit more slack. There's a big debate in Australia about this as well. One newspaper there showed the picture as well. They wouldn't win the fight there. It was interesting that William has not issued a statement today. I think he has learned, the more he says, the more it inflates the story. Hopefully, this will die down tomorrow is they don't say anything. That's their feeling.

BALDWIN: Keep it out of the headlines.

Max Foster, thanks so much.

Happening right now, former NFL star, Aaron Hernandez, facing new charges that he murdered two people. Hear and see what happened in court just moments ago, up next.

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BALDWIN: Just moments ago, in a Massachusetts courtroom. Aaron Hernandez pleading not guilty to two additional murder charges. He is already facing trial in the murder of his friend, Odin Lloyd, who was dating his fiance's sister. Now in this separate case, prosecutors maintain that he ambushed, shot and killed two men during this drive- by in 2012.

Our Susan Candiotti has been on this story. She's live in downtown Boston.

So, Susan, tell me more about what happened inside the courtroom.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Brooke, there was a lot of sobbing in the courtroom on the part of the victims' family. And the motive seems almost incomprehensible that someone could be so angry over a spilled drink that they would commit murder. But that is what prosecutors say happened in July of 2012. As they spell things out, they paint a scenario quoting witnesses and informants saying that Aaron Hernandez had been agitated in the weeks leading up to that. When he went out, he said that people were testing and trying him. On this one night, he was at a night club at the same time some perfect strangers were there two, including one young man who was dancing at the nightclub. Accidently bumped into Aaron Hernandez, who then spilled his drink. Aaron Hernandez left the bar. This is what prosecutors set out. Got into his car. Actually, went to another club and thought he saw the same victims again, which turned out not to be him. And then eventually, followed and stalked the victims in their car as they left. Eventually, pulling up and pumping several shots from a .38 caliber handgun into if car. I think we have some of what the prosecutor said.

BALDWIN: We do. Roll it.

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PATRICK HAGEN, PROSECUTOR: The defendant's SUV pulled up close alongside the passenger side of the victim's care. The defendant leaned out of the driver's side window of the SUV with a loaded revolver in his hand, extended out, and stated, "Yo, what's up now," and then a racial slur. The defendant immediately fired at least five rounds from a .38 caliber revolver into the victims' car. Daniel Degrao (ph) suffered fatal gunshot wounds to the chest. Severeo Fatado (ph) suffered from gunshot wounds to his head. Both Degrao (ph) and Fatado (ph) were pronounced dead at the scene.

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CANDIOTTI: Now another witness, prosecutors said, heard Hernandez say this, "That I hit one person --" Let's see. I've got this. "I hit one person in the chest." Here it is. Got it. "I think I got one in the head and one in the chest." And that there was a clicking noise from the gun as though the shooter, Aaron Hernandez, allegedly kept shooting and shooting but kept getting a clicking noise. After that, Brooke, I have to wrap it up by saying this.

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BALDWIN: With the defense. I would love to hear another account of that.

CANDIOTTI: Of course. Of course. Well, first of all, Aaron Hernandez pleaded not guilty to all the charges. The defense was outraged. They said -- they said, "What happened in court was a spectacle, an avalanche of information without any basis." And they chided the court for allowing prosecutors to make this presentation in court. Then the judge let loose on the defense attorneys, saying, "We have been doing this this way for more than 100 years in this courtroom. The prosecutors get a chance to address the court. You get a chance to address the court. And there will be a trial to decide the rest" -- Brooke?

BALDWIN: The judge, huh?

CANDIOTTI: We'll have more of that.

BALDWIN: Of course, we will.

Susan Candiotti, thank you so much in a rainy Boston for us.

Coming up next, ahead of tomorrow night's CNN special, "The Sixties," I will be speaking with "the" Barbara Eden, the star of one of the decade's most popular TV shows. We talked about everything, including the much-discussed, back in the day, belly button in "I Dream of Jeannie." Don't miss this.

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BALDWIN: You just saw the commercial there. We're all excited because tomorrow night, 9:00 eastern and pacific, make sure you watch the first installment of CNN's new 10-part series, "The Sixties," for a look at the decade that changed the world.

Here's one example. 1965, there was a TV that broke new ground with the story of an astronaut and a 2,000-year-old genie who lived in a bottle. Nearly 50 years later, reruns of "I Dream of Jeannie" are still on TV. And I got a chance to catch up with Barbara Eden, the genie herself, about how her iconic role really changed and shaped television.

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BALDWIN: Can we just begin with something? I mean, I can't believe I was actually doing research on your belly button, that this was a thing many years ago.

(LAUGHTER)

Can we talk about who approached you about your "I Dream of Jeannie" costume?

BARBARA EDEN, ACTRESS: It was all an accident. A reporter, on the "Hollywood Reporter," would come down on the set. And he would say, I don't believe you have one. I would say, "Nickel a peak." You know? It was cheap in those days.

(LAUGHTER)

And he began to write about it. I don't know why. And then the stringers across the country picked it up. It became a cause celeb. Then George Slaughter, who was doing "Laugh In," decided he wanted to premier my naval on "Laugh In."

BALDWIN: Right.

EDEN: When he did that, the network went, oh, she has one?

(LAUGHTER)

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BALDWIN: It was a thing. There was whole thing, a meeting of suits at a very high level discussing whether to show it or not, your belly button.

(LAUGHTER)

EDEN: Correct. That's what George told me. He said, around an oak table, all these suits discussing my belly button.

BALDWIN: And just knowing what you experienced then, and then seeing some of what's on TV now, and maybe some of the overexposure, what do you make of it and your influence on that?

EDEN: Woo-hoo.

(LAUGHTER)

I don't know I had any influence on that. Some of it is really pretty. Some of it should be after midnight, I think.

(LAUGHTER) BALDWIN: When you look -- because we're focusing obviously on this TV series, "The Sixties," and thinking before that era, it was this perfectly coifed picture-perfect family, not a hair out of place, and then something happened. I don't know if it was the Beatles or free love. But what do you think? You acted through it. What was it that really changed things?

EDEN: I think, for good or bad, there was a loosening of morals. Television evened it out a little bit. We didn't go way over. It was all right to have a girl in a bottle living with an astronaut.

(LAUGHTER)

It was not a girl in a bottle. I talk to women particularly about. She was an entity. She wasn't your housewife. She wasn't a human. She should never have married him.

(LAUGHTER)

It was all right for her to say "master" because this was her job.

BALDWIN: Did you get a lot of push back from women? Do you still to this day over that?

EDEN: I do, to this day. Yes, I do. I have to point out to women that she was really in charge. I know this, because so many little girls now, who are watching the show, come to me and they say, oh, I would love to have those powers.

BALDWIN: With the reruns of "I Dream of Jeannie," I know you were in Florida, you were active in theater. You look incredible. I don't know what you're eating or -- what are you doing so right?

(LAUGHTER)

EDEN: Lots of soft serve.

(LAUGHTER)

BALDWIN: Really?

EDEN: Oh, I like ice cream. Yes, I do.

If you're really serious, I have never smoked. I think that's a big thing. My mother, who, God love her, she died because she smoked. And she really drilled that into me when I was very, very small that I didn't want to smoke.

BALDWIN: Will you wiggle your nose for me?

EDEN: Well, that was the other girl. I didn't wiggle.

BALDWIN: You did the blinking.

EDEN: I did this.

BALDWIN: Yes. I can still hear the sound effects.

(LAUGHTER)

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