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Google Unveils Android Auto, TV and Wear; Minister Defrocked After Gay Wedding Reinstated; Suarez's Alleged Bite: Will FIFA Ban Him?; Revelations About Jackson Five Years After Death

Aired June 25, 2014 - 15:30   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Today, Google wants you to wire even more of your house, thermostats connected to the Internet, smoke detectors, alarm systems. But remember, all of this is giving them more information about you. How do you feel about that? What will they do with that information? We'll talk about that.

And the Methodist Church booted out a minister for marrying a same-sex couple. But apparently turning the other cheek, welcoming him back, kind of, what will he do? We'll talk to him, live, here on CNN.

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BALDWIN: Google, making some major announcements just a short time ago about its plans to make your life easier with the help of their new gadgets. That apparently you can wear. Aren't you excited? Their Annual Developers' Conference just kicked off and showcased the new Android smart watch and more ways for Android to connect to your home and now your car.

Take a look at Android Auto. They're selling it as a hands-freeway to enjoy the features one gets on Google's Android software. OK. CNN technology analyst, Brett Larson, cracking me up over this in the commercial break. Good to see you.

BRETT LARSON, CNN TECHNOLOGY ANALYST: Here in person.

BALDWIN: So what do we have?

LARSON: Very exciting. The wearable thing I always think is kind of funny because it's still not taking off. Samsung did the watch and people are like, I don't want to play Dick Tracy in real life. I don't want that stuff. They were talking today about how you can put recipes on your watch. So, you know, while you're cooking, you can swipe through -- but come on.

BALDWIN: Lost me there.

LARSON: We're talking about a screen that's the size of a silver dollar. The car thing I think is great. Apple is dominating in this space. They have for a long time. They have IOS that goes into the dashboard, which is great. People really like it. So I think bringing Google to the table is good because that will keep the innovation going. The will keep good ideas flowing. Accessing all the stuff. Our cars do so much stuff right now. They were getting internet connections in them. It's a big distraction for drivers. So I think the fact you can just talk to your car is very helpful.

BALDWIN: So what do you mean if it's in the dashboard or in the -- what would be in there?

LARSON: It's going to be -- instead of having the screen that has your satellite radio and your stereo system and all your AC controls, it would all be controllable via Google. You could basically run Android in your desktop. So it would be like having a smartphone or a tablet in your dashboard of your car.

BALDWIN: OK.

LARSON: And it would bring all that power to it. It would make it easier if you are out driving around. Like when I'm driving around Atlanta and I don't know where I am, I can hit the button and say take me to CNN Center and it would plug into the GPS and the map would take me there and wouldn't have to take my eyes off the road.

BALDWIN: People are doing that.

LARSON: Very dangerous.

BALDWIN: What were you saying about a TV or a set?

LARSON: Yes, a set top box. This has been a pretty popular space. Rocue has a box, Apple has the Apple TV. Google has the Chrome Cast and now a set top box. The set top, it's golden prime real estate in your living room, where everybody wants to be, because it's that last device between you and everything you're enjoying.

If you can insert yourself there, you can have some sort of say and kind of monitor what it is that people are interested in doing. And you can also get those eyeballs and that's sort of the big thing.

BALDWIN: In 20 seconds, are you freaked out at all that we're giving up all this information?

LARSON: Yes, I definitely am. I think George Orwell was 30 years late and I don't think it's the government watching us, I think it's big corporations. I think it's saving us money here and there, but I think we are divulging way too much personal information and the law hasn't quite caught up with protecting us as consumers.

BALDWIN: I like the car thing.

LARSON: I think the car thing will be fun.

BALDWIN: Brett Larson, thank you so much. Appreciate you stopping by.

And the Reverend Frank Schaeffer believes in same-sex marriage. The Methodist Church thinks he is flat-out wrong. So kicked him out. But they're now doing a 180, kind of. Has he changed his thoughts on the same-sex marriage? Where is he going next? We'll ask him.

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BALDWIN: A huge reversal to tell about today by the United Methodist Church, which is grappling with this deep divide over same-sex marriage. Remember the Pennsylvania minister, who was defrocked after presiding over his son's same-sex wedding? Well, that minister, the Reverend Frank Schaefer has been refrocked.

The Methodist Church suspended Schaefer last November and ordered him to promise that he would never, ever perform another same-sex wedding. Schaeffer refused. So the church defrocked him. He appealed and he just got the verdict from the nine ministers and lay people who looked into his case.

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REVEREND FRANK SCHAEFER, UNITED METHODIST CHURCH PASTOR: The verdict cast that I am reinstated as an ordained minister of the United Methodist Church. Yes.

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BALDWIN: And here he is. Reverend Frank Schaefer joining me live from Harrisburg, PA. Pastor, welcome.

SCHAEFER: Well, thank you so much for having me, Brooke.

BALDWIN: I can see the elation on your face. But tell me, were you given an explanation? What changed?

SCHAEFER: Well, I am beside myself. This has been somewhat of a surprise to me. You know, I tried to guard myself emotionally. But my best estimate is that the church, that this committee, really listened to my council and the LGBT community in our church when they made this ruling. They could have easily gone with the counsel for the church who said you have to always consider the attitude of the defendant and any trial.

That's true of a church trial as much of a secular trial and I was just not repentant. I didn't say I was sorry. I kept can insisting no, this is not right and I will follow my conscience again in the future. But they sided with me and they sided with the LGBT community. So this is a great day for us in the United Methodist Church.

BALDWIN: We'll get to your future in a minute. Quickly, how did you find out? You've been waiting so long for the news.

SCHAEFER: Yes, actually, I just got an e-mail.

BALDWIN: An e-mail.

SCHAEFER: It was amazing. I expected a phone call, but I got an e- mail, yes. And the thing was, it wasn't even in the body of the e- mail. I had to open a pdf and scroll through 16 pages to find out what the verdict was.

BALDWIN: Talk about anti climatic. Here we have the news, you have been reinstated but you're not being sent back to the church you led for 11 years. You're being transferred to California. Are you offended by that?

SCHAEFER: I am elated about that, as well, you know, first of all, I hear that Santa Barbara is beautiful. You know, it's -- the surf is always up there, and the weather is always nice. But that's not why I'm really excited. I'm excited to be able to be part of the campus community there, reaching out to and working with young people. Undergraduate, graduate students, as well as faculty and staff. And it's going to be a wonderful new challenge for me. But also I anticipate a wonderful ministry.

BALDWIN: I appreciate that the surf will be up and I -- Santa Barbara is beautiful. But, I mean, wouldn't it have meant more for you if the Methodist Church said, you know what, Reverend, we want you to be able to go home to your home church in Pennsylvania and that be that.

BALDWIN: In an ideal world, that would have been perfect because as you can imagine, this will be bittersweet, of course, because over 11 years you build a lot of friendships and relationships in the church. And it will be hard to say goodbye. But, you know, the church has to do what the church has to do.

When I was terminated from my position after my defrocking at the Iona Church, that ministry had to go on, and so the church leadership had to appoint another pastor, an interim pastor, and now a new pastor, permanent pastor there. So no more room for me there. So that's the sad news. But the good news is that I will be going to -- into another ministry that is going to be very exciting.

BALDWIN: Reverend, enjoy Southern California. Best of luck to you. Reverend Frank Schaeffer, thanks for taking the time this afternoon.

SCHAEFER: Thank you so much.

BALDWIN: You got it.

And Luis Suarez is a world-class soccer player. Too bad he may also be the closest thing that soccer has to Hannibal Lecter. Take a look. This looks like the third time Suarez apparently took a chomp out of an opponent. But now it may be FIFA's time to get back at him.

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BALDWIN: The alleged biter. Luis Suarez has about 10 minutes left to turn in any evidence to the World Cup ruling body, FIFA. Suarez is this player on Team Uruguay accused of chomping on his opponent's shoulder during yesterday's match against Italy. His alleged victim has a little safe that FIFA will actually punish Suarez.

The player, the chompy, as it were, Georgio Killeny (ph) told Italian media, Suarez is a snake and he gets away with it because FIFA wants their stars to play in the World Cup. I would love to see if they have the courage to use video evidence against him.

Suarez has been punished twice before, for biting other players in club level games. So in for Jake Tapper today, we have John Berman host of "THE LEAD." Big, big, soccer fan as we heard him in his cable segment the other day.

You're the perfect person, of course, to talk about this with and Suarez, doing my homework today, I mean, it's been a whole year, Berman, that this guy's taken a chomp on anyone.

JOHN BERMAN, CO-ANCHOR, CNN'S "EARLY START": You can't go back for third, Brooke. That seems to be the general agreement right now in the soccer world. No. He's done it before. There was one thing he couldn't do in this World Cup. You can commit any number of fouls and probably get away with it Luis Suarez, but don't bite someone again for the third time on TV.

As you said he's got 10 minutes to submit evidence to FIFA right now. That discipline committee will take a look at this evidence. I suppose what they will decide is whether it was an inadvertent bite and whether it was eating his opponent by mistake. I think the soccer world's general consensus that he will be punished for this.

BALDWIN: He will. He will.

BERMAN: I think a lot of people think he will be and it will come before Saturday. That's when Uruguay plays Colombia in the round of 16. Make no mistake, Brooke, Luis Suarez is probably one of the five best players in the world and he's a phenomenal soccer player and phenomenally troubled as well.

BALDWIN: We have this alleged biting and then we have this plane full of cash from Ghana to their players who say hang on a second, we may not get paid and we want our money. It makes it exciting to be watching and following and tomorrow, Team USA and Germany. What are we thinking?

BERMAN: I'm thinking that I might not breathe for about 90 minutes tomorrow.

BALDWIN: It's right after our show.

BERMAN: I finish after this hour and then I will hold my breath for 90 minutes depending on injury time. Look, I think the U.S. is just a terrific soccer them. They beat Germany in a friendly about a year ago. I think they can play very, very well against the Germans and they do not need to win to move on. They can tie or lose well and that's what I think will happen.

BALDWIN: There was mention of you, tie, shirt, socks and jacket during your show. Leave us there. We'll be sitting with bated breath to see how you chooses dress during ahead of this big batch tomorrow and double duty for you tomorrow anchoring "THE LEAD." We'll watch for you in a couple of minutes my friend, John Berman.

Before I let you go, Michael Jackson lived a mysterious life, but since his death we've learned more and more about it. All of these details. Frankly, they are stunning, tattooed lips, wigs? Stay with me. More ahead.

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BALDWIN: Five years ago today, the world lost one of its most iconic musicians, the legendary, Michael Jackson. He died from an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol used to help him with his chronic insomnia. In the five years since his passing new details are emerging about his private lives and the final days. Here is CNN's Stephanie Elam.

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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was supposed to his farewell tour, but Michael Jackson would never perform for his fans again. The entertainer with the iconic moves and unmistakable sound died in 2009 while the "This Is It" concert tour was still in rehearsals. Since his passing, we've learned much more about the pop icon.

First, M.J. sounding like we never heard him before. During the trial of Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal doctor who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the singer's death, audio was played of M.J. speaking, his voice graveled and slurred.

MICHAEL JACKSON: When people leave my show, I want them to say, I've never seen anything like this in my life.

ELAM: Second, shocking details about M.J.'s appearance, the autopsy report revealing his lips were tattooed pink and like his eyebrows, his hairline had a dark tattoo to blend with his wigs. Third, Jackson's addiction to pain killers, drugs he also used to battle his insomnia. For 60 nights, Murray was injected with Propofol, a strong anaesthesia that is only supposed to be administered in medical settings. The drug deprived the star of sleep two months leading up to his death.

The doctor who conducted the autopsy testified that if it were not for the propofol overdose, Jackson could have had a normal life span. And fourth, the emergence of Jackson's children. Before he died his three kids were kept covered up in public.

(on camera): Since Jackson's death, the children have shown their faces. In 2012, Paris, Prince and Blanket were here in Hollywood honoring their legendary father in a hand and footprint ceremony outside the Chinese theater.

(voice-over): Prince even embracing his fame, appearing as a guest correspondent for "Entertainment Tonight" in 2013.

PRINCE JACKSON: I know how to keep my cool.

ELAM: As one of the most famous men in the world, the king of pop fought to give his children a normal childhood. After all, he gave his to the spotlight. Stephanie Elam, CNN, Los Angeles. (END VIDEOTAPE)

BALDWIN: And tonight here on CNN, Don Lemon, sitting down with Jackson's former doctor, Conrad Murray. This is Murray's first interview since getting out of prison last October. So Don Lemon, this is live tonight and you've been talking with him, you've been texting with him. He says he wants to get the record straight. How does he mean?

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR, "CNN TONIGHT": He's been trying to do that since this all happened. He says it's his first and only interview post-prison. He means that he feels that he is -- I think he believes that in some way he is responsible obviously for what happened to Michael Jackson, but he does not believe he should have gone to prison for it and he believes that things that happened in court, evidence, witnesses and all of that.

He thought they were in collusion, that the evidence was trumped up and he has a web site out now, over an hour and a half, where he goes through the evidence one by one and tries to knock it down, but he really feels he wants to be vindicated. And I've been speaking to him a little bit.

During the commercial break, he's been texting me since I did an interview with him a year ago, a documentary and he said the only interview that I really felt was fair was the one you did and I decided to give you this interview.

BALDWIN: We'll be watching to see what he says.

LEMON: No softball question, either.

BALDWIN: I'm sure not, I'm thinking of him seeing Anderson Cooper from prison. What's he doing these days?

LEMON: You know, he has taken a job and it's a voluntary job with the Trinity of Health consulting with local heart surgeons and trying to get children onboard to hook them up to get help for their heart issues and he's just bouncing around. I won't say where he's living now because, you know, I'll let him deal with that, but he can't really go anywhere without people spotting him. Like today, Brooke, he went to buy one of the web sites has him buying milk at a convenience store and they put it on. He can't go anywhere, and I want to know what that's like as well.

BALDWIN: Life of Conrad Murray these days. We'll be watching the interview tonight. Thank you so much, Don Lemon for that. Tonight at 10:00. In the meantime, I'm Brooke Baldwin. Thanks for watching. "THE LEAD" with John Berman the starts right now.