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Alleged Rape Caught on Video; ISIS Militants Fighting to Take Anbar Province; Hernandez Headed to Federal Prison; Odin Lloyd's Mother Speaks Out. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired April 15, 2015 - 15:30   ET

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[15:32:26] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Past the bottom of the hour. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

A shaky bit of cell phone video taken on a popular Florida beach during spring break last month has Panama City Beach's full-time residents thinking twice about the welcome mat they roll out each and every spring for rowdy college kids. This is a cleaned-up version of the video. Police in another state, in Alabama, found it while they were investigating a totally separate crime. What they saw, but you won't, because those pictures have been removed, was an alleged gang rape in broad daylight.

Here's the sheriff of Panama City Beach.

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FRANK MCKEITHEN, BAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE: We can wear T-shirts and say "save our beach" all we want to, but that's not going to restore this girl who was viciously violated by these individuals.

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BALDWIN: About that vicious violation, police say the victim was passed out cold, completely unresponsive, while three men allegedly held her and forced themselves upon her, one after the other. While the crime scenes have been removed, what you see in the video are these spring breakers partying within feet of this alleged rape.

Here is, once again, that sheriff.

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MCKEITHEN: This is disgusting. We have got to get control of our beaches. It is not safe for our children to be out there on the beaches when these animals are out there.

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BALDWIN: Let me talk to CNN's Alexandra Field. She spoke with that sheriff last night. Also with me, psychiatrist, Gail Saltz.

Alexandra, first to you. With the discovery of this crime, will it whatsoever change spring break, how it's policed next year?

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Brooke, no matter who you speak to in this community, whether it's the bay county sheriff, who's charged with protecting the community, whether it's a business owner who profits from the business that spring break brings to town, there's definitely this shared feeling of anger and a collective sense of resolve that spring break has spun out of control over these past few years and something has to change. Will this video prove to be that watershed moment where parties can come together and work out a solution? Certainly, a lot of people are hoping for that right now. They're talking about whether or not the response here should be more law enforcement officers. Can they find more resources? Is it private security? Is it a question for government, of more ordinances? It's certainly something they're talking about and something people want resolved for spring break next year. This is all coming about because of this video, which was unearthed during an investigation to an unrelated crime in a different state. They've not publicly released the video showing this horrific act.

But we talked to the sheriff about what he saw and what resonated so deeply with him. Listen to this.

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[15:35:16] MCKEITHEN: I mean, she was totally incapacitated. She was not even moving at some points. One time in the video, she actually was able to get her hand up and grab a hand and try to move it.

They looked like wild animals feeding on a corpse in the middle of the woods on a carcass. I mean, it was just a frenzy.

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BALDWIN: Disgusting.

FIELD: Brooke, there are two issues this community has to deal with right now. "Disgusting" is absolutely the word. Prevention, what can they do in advance.

There's also prosecution. We know three arrests have been made related to this case. But are there other cases? Brooke, you saw the people standing on the beach seemingly doing nothing as this woman is violated. Well, the sheriff's office tells us they've been combing through social media pages. They've been looking at all kinds of video. They've already flagged two different video where they say there's behavior that's been questionable to them and they're looking at whether or not there have been crimes in those cases.

You can count on this. They're going to be looking at a lot more videos, trying to determine if there are more crimes that happened out there that they have no idea about -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: So glad you talked to that sheriff. Alexandra Field, thank you.

Psychiatrist Dr. Gail Saltz, I mean, I appreciate the fact the sheriff is furious, as he should be, but the fact when you see the beautiful blue sky, the crowded beach, broad daylight, how the heck did no one step in and stop this?

GAIL SALTZ, PSYCHIATRIST: You know, it's mob mentality. It's how bad behavior we see when there's a lot of emotion, when people give themselves permission to be doing what they want to do. They feel entitled to that. And they see someone next to them not doing anything, and they think, oh, that must in some way mean it's OK for me to not do anything.

BALDWIN: You're saying if there were fewer people around, they would feel more the onus was on them versus this mob mentality, drinking and --

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SALTZ: I think the mob mentality makes it, unfortunately, more likely they won't pay attention. We, as a nation, have to come together and say, look, in all of these instances, it's the bystander that makes the difference. We could be talking about a horrible bullying incident, any kind of assault, it's always the bystander. Until we empower each other to say, you're going to go in, and we're going to reward you in some way. We're going to say, that's the right thing to do. People are afraid sometimes to go in. They're afraid that they're going to be hurt. They're afraid those perpetrators are going to turn on them. We have to empower each other because the bystanders are the ones that make all the difference.

BALDWIN: Then it's this woman who didn't even remember this happened to her. She only sees it because she's watching the news, recognizes this person on the video, recognizes the tattoos and thinks, my god, that was me.

SALTZ: You can be unconscious, certainly, and be violated. That defines rape right here. It's also possible to be semiconscious, where you have disassociated yourself from the event, as it were.

BALDWIN: Is it common?

SALTZ: It's rare to disassociate like that. It is rare. To be unconscious, unfortunately, we're seeing this happening on college campuses across America. Girls who have drank so much, they're incapacitated, and someone takes advantage of that situation and rapes them. That is happening. And we have to educate people to not drink so much they become incapacitated. We have to limit these kinds of circumstances where there's such a rush of the crowd and so much permission given to become totally inebriated.

Look, I would say, today, really think about letting your kids go on any of these kinds of trips, even if they're college kids. You know what? Their frontal lobe is not fully developed. They don't think about consequences. They're big on risk taking. It's part of the way they're hardwired right now.

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BALDWIN: We wouldn't even be talking about this had this unrelated crime in a totally different state not happened in which cell phone video was found, in which the girl saw herself on the news.

SALTZ: And it changed all their lives forever.

BALDWIN: Yeah, forever.

Doctor Gail Saltz, thank you so much.

SALTZ: Thank you.

[15:39:09] BALDWIN: Next, on the break, ISIS closing in on a major Iraqi town, hundreds of people on the run. A CNN crew is there on the ground. We'll talk to them live next.

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BALDWIN: A city could fall any minute as ISIS moves closer to its next victory. A fire fight happening now in the key Iraqi city of Ramadi. ISIS militants preparing to capture the capital of Anbar Province just 70 miles from Baghdad. CNN has also learned a local official there is begging for backup from Baghdad, saying security on the ground is, quote, unquote, "collapsing."

This is all coming from Arwa Damon, our CNN senior international correspondent, who's joining me live from Baghdad.

Arwa, how close is Ramadi to falling, and what would that mean for this war there on ISIS?

ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, we were speaking with the deputy provincial head of the province, and he's currently inside Ramadi. He put it quite simply. He said, in my view, the city has already fallen. ISIS has been advancing throughout the course of the day in all directions, moving closer towards the city center.

This all began this morning when ISIS moved in and took over a significant portion of the eastern side of the city in something of a surprise assault. ISIS had already taken over the north over the weekend, but no one was anticipating this quick of an advance towards the east.

That being said, other top commanders in Ramadi have been for weeks now begging the Iraqi government for reinforcements, asking for Iraqi air strikes, asking for coalition air strikes because they knew that ISIS had Ramadi in its sights. This is a city they've been trying to capture for months now.

This most recent assault has sent thousands of refugees fleeing. We saw a number of them at a bridge that connects Anbar Province to the province of Baghdad. People are not allowed to cross this bridge by car. They were forced to go across either on foot, if they could, many of them seeming exhausted or unable to walk across, piling into these metal carts, children, elderly. One older woman we spoke to simply burst into tears. Another man described how ISIS commandeered his house as a sniper position.

At this stage, if there's not significant additional assistance, Brooke, the city will fall, and this will be a major victory for ISIS.

[15:46:09] BALDWIN: Arwa Damon, thank you so much, in Baghdad.

Next, more on our breaking news. Ex-NFL star, Aaron Hernandez, found guilty of murder today. He will spend his life in prison. What will that life look like? We're going to talk to a man who spent 10 years in federal prison next.

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[15:49:40] BALDWIN: While he waited for his murder trial, Aaron Hernandez was in a county jail. Now that he's convicted, the 27-year- old former New England Patriots star is going to NCI Cedar Junction. It's a maximum security facility, 20 feet of fencing, eight observation towers, five strands of electrical wire along the wall. But what is it like to know you're headed into a place like this for the rest of your life and never coming out?

Larry Levine, the director and founder of Wall Street Prison Consultants, served 10 years in a federal prison.

Larry Levine, welcome back to the show.

My first question is, knowing that he's the superstar of the Patriots, ex-Patriots player, will he be revered by the inmates or will he be isolated?

LARRY LEVINE, DIRECTOR & FOUNDER, WALL STREET PRISON CONSULTANTS: Well, there's a pecking order in prison, with child molesters being on the bottom end and people that murder people murder, violent killers being on the high end. So I don't think he's really going to have any problems in there.

And I've been locked up with athletes, celebrities and such. And people kind of cozy around them looking for favors. They want to be their friend and such. So I don't think he's going to have any problems in there. I heard what Nancy Grace had to say and what the judge had to say.

They're both right. It is a dangerous place. It is a violent place. He's going to be in isolation. But then on the other hand, yeah, he'll be able to go out and play basketball, lift weights, socialize with other inmates. He's not going to be stuck in a cell all the time.

BALDWIN: By the way, I'm being told we have new video. Let's watch this together.

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LEVINE: I can't see it.

BALDWIN: I will walk you through this, Larry Levine.

This is Aaron Hernandez shackled, being walked out of this big white van and into this concrete -- through this concrete wall with all this wiring and into this prison. So that's the first glimpse we've had of him going into maximum security prison.

If you're talking about Aaron Hernandez being able to be out and about with general population, he won't be isolated?

LEVINE: No, not really. And this place is just a reception center for the state of Massachusetts. They kind of send everybody here. Yes, it's maximum security, but they've got another place called Suza Boronski (ph), which is also another maximum security institution. He may eventually end up there. The Department of Corrections, they are the sole deciding factor of where you spend your time. It's not the jury or the judge. He may end up anywhere in the Massachusetts system that has high security maximum inmates.

BALDWIN: Do you think the guards --

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LEVINE: Is it dangerous, yes?

BALDWIN: Do you think the guards will treat him differently and will he have visitors? Will his fiancee be able to spend time with him?

LEVINE: Because he's in maximum custody and serving life, she'll be able to spend time with him, but it probably won't be a contact visit. He won't be sitting across a table. He might be talking to her through glass. And a lot of these institutions now, high security, it's kind of like you're Skyping with them or they have Skype stations set up where you can talk to the inmate via video. And as far as the staff, there will be a lot of staff that will treat him like an animal that he is, and other staff will want to be his friend, maybe get his autograph that will revere him as a star. So he's going to walk the spectrum on both sides. And, remember, he's got another trial possibly coming up --

BALDWIN: That's right.

LEVINE: -- for what, for two other murders.

BALDWIN: -- the double murder. That's exactly right.

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BALDWIN: It's been postponed but the prosecution will continue.

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BALDWIN: Who knows how that may go?

LEVINE: Brooke, he'll be on his way back possibly to county jail. Because they don't want to transport him all the time back and forth. So this is more of a formality. They're booking him into the DOC. They'll fingerprint him, take his picture and classify him. I suspect we'll see him in county jail again soon.

BALDWIN: OK. Larry Levine, as always, thank you so much.

A heads-up to all of you tonight, please take a look at this piece we're airing. This is the updated case against Aaron Hernandez now that he's been convicted of murder in the first degree. Do not miss our special right here on CNN at 9:00 p.m. eastern

Next, the mother of the victim. We have to talk about Odin Lloyd here. Absolutely just breaking down in this courtroom trying to -- others around her trying to console her. Absolutely heartbreaking words outside the courthouse. That's next.

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[14:58:14] BALDWIN: It is the day Odin Lloyd's family waited to see, nearly two years after the 27-year-old landscaper and semi pro football player was murdered.

Odin Lloyd's mother shed tears in the courtroom today as the jury found Aaron Hernandez guilty on all charges. And later, she spoke to the world about her son.

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URSULA WARD, MOTHER OF ODIN LLOYD: My son, Odin, was the most precious gift in my life. I'm going to miss his smile. From across the street, I would see him coming. On Father's Day, I'm going to miss the best words, "Happy Father's Day, Mom." I've been his mother and father all his life. So on Father's Day, that's one of the things that he gives me. On that Sunday, I had just came from church and my son saw me. He said, "Ma, you look so beautiful today. I love those colors on you." And those were the last words I heard from my son. Those are some -- my baby -- just like God has left his footprint in the sand, my baby's footprints is in my heart forever. He was my strength. I love him dearly.

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[16:00:07] BALDWIN: Much more on this tonight.

I'll see you back here tonight on CNN, 10:00 p.m. Eastern.

"THE LEAD" with Jake Tapper starts now.