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Unrest Continues in West Bank, Fresh Wave of Attacks; Will Israelis With More Guns Help Stop Attacks; Russia, U.S. Talk to Keep Flights Safe in Syria; Hillary Clinton Hits Campaign Trail after Debate; Trump Says Not Enough Evidence to Blame Russia for MH17 Downing; Lamar Odom Fights for Life in Hospital. Aired 2-2:30a ET
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Hello, and welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church.
ERROL BARNETT, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Errol Barnett. Thank you for joining us. We're with you for the next two hours. This is CNN NEWSROOM.
BARNETT: As Israel's government rolls out tighter security measures, the unrest continues in the West Bank with a fresh wave of attacks. A 72-year-old woman was stabbed near Jerusalem's central bus station on Wednesday. CNN has obtained video showing Israeli police shooting her Palestinian attacker, but we have to give you a warning, these images are disturbing.
CHURCH: Israeli police say the assailant fled the scene on foot, but it's unclear how much time had elapsed before he was shot. The woman was being treated at the hospital. The condition of her attacker is unclear.
BARNETT: Our Erin McLaughlin is covering this for us and joins us to talk about this wave of violence.
Erin, it's unclear if these newly enacted security measures put in place this week are making any real difference. But you've noted this heightened sense of fear among everybody. Some Palestinians have called the government's response more of a collective punishment. Describe to us the mood there and what happened with this latest act of violence.
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Errol. That's right, people here are on edge. That's because despite heavy security, yesterday there were two stabbing incidents. The first happened near the Damascus Gate entrance of the old city. Police shot and killed a Palestinian man who attempted to stab them, but they also inadvertently shot and wounded a local Israeli citizen, as well as a tourist. And then in the evening, a 72-year-old woman was stabbed at the central bus station in Jerusalem. CNN spoke to an eyewitness following that incident and really captured the sense of chaos. Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was sitting inside, I hear screams. Girls were screaming. Terrorist, terrorist! He tried to kill me! I'm telling you now, if the soldier wasn't here, he was killing two, three girls in one minute. She was going to the store. Tell the man, shoot him, shoot him! The situation very panicked situation. Very lawless at this time. We wait for these things. It happened now. I was feeling that something we need to come here, to the central bus station. Maybe it's something else. You see all the forces of the police here, the imam, the SWAT, everybody here, and they still doing things. Maybe they take five, six people and they separate the streets, two here, two here.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can't live normal in this life. People gunned down in the street. It's unbelievable, man.
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MCLAUGHLIN: Really gives you a sense of panic that people are feeling, a sense that something bad could happen at any time -- Errol?
BARNETT: It's understandable, Israelis and Palestinians have seen this cycle of violence many times before. Singular violent acts escalating into what could be all-out war between the two sides. Do people there feel it might bring attention to the economic issues facing many Palestinians there? That's the simmering issue underneath all of this.
MCLAUGHLIN: Well, at the moment, Errol, Palestinians that I've been talking to, say they're predominantly concerned about the security situation. They say they're concerned about the checkpoints that have now been set up inside of the predominantly Arab neighborhoods in east Jerusalem. Israeli police searching cars, and there's a sense of apprehension among Palestinians I've talked to about what could happen if say, they reach for their cell phone and that's interpreted by Israeli security forces as something else. And Israelis are very concerned and scared as well. Many avoiding public transportation systems, choosing to drive instead. Many choosing, if they have gun licenses, to carry their weapons. They're also in greater numbers applying for gun licenses. So both sides really very much on edge.
And there was an incident today that really sort of highlights the apprehension and the panic people are feeling. There was a train to Haifa this morning, according to Israeli police. Israeli soldiers on board the train say they saw someone who looked suspicion. They screamed out "terrorist." A police officer on board the train fired his gun into the air. When the train reached the train station, police thoroughly searched it and found absolutely nothing. But it does show you that people here are on edge. People here are panicking.
[02:05:22] BARNETT: And that speaks to what you mentioned about Palestinians being reluctant to take transportation. A single person yelling "terrorist" there, leading to gunshots, no weapon found.
Erin, we appreciate you giving us the latest information. Erin McLaughlin, live from us out of Jerusalem. Just past 9:00 in the morning there. Erin, thanks.
CHURCH: And as we heard, Israel's new security measures include shutting down some Palestinian neighborhoods, but some officials believe more guns in the hands of ordinary Israelis may help as well.
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MICKEY ROSENFELD, ISRAELI POLICE FOREIGN PRESS SPOKESPERSON: The more Israelis that are walking around with pistols, that is important that the members of the public can also respond and react. Let's not forget that just over a week ago, a Palestinian 18-year-old woman stabbed an Israeli man in the back of his neck in the old city. He pulled out his weapon, he responded and shot that Palestinian woman who was taken to hospital in serious condition. So it is effective. Every Israeli walking around with a pistol has gone through three years of IDF training and, therefore, there's no problem whatsoever. Apart from the individuals that are walking around and personal security officers that are in and around the streets, that supports the general security that's taking place in coordination with the Israeli national police.
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CHURCH: Joining me now, Barak Barfi, a research fellow at the New America Foundation, where he specializes in Arab and Islamic affairs.
Thank you, sir, for talking with us.
So, two more stabbings reported in Jerusalem, in this latest wave of violence in the Middle East. And now we are hearing from President Mahmoud Abbas. Listen for a moment to what he had to say.
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MAHMOUD ABBAS, PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT (through translation): Peace and security will never be achieved unless there's an end to the Israeli occupation and establishing an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem at its capital, according to the borders of the 1967 borders. I hereby call anew, the Palestinian people, wherever you are, to stand together, to close ranks.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: What does Mahmoud Abbas mean when he says, "I call on
Palestinians to stand together, to close ranks?" And isn't this the time to be condemning the violence and looking for more peaceful ways to rein in the daily stabbings?
BARAK BARFI, RESEARCH FELLOW, NEW AMERICA FOUNDATION: Rosemary, there's a myriad of Palestinian factions, and not all of them support president Abbas. Even his own Fatah faction is split against him. He does not have a lot of power. Not a lot of people listen to him. He's condemned the violence since day one of his term in office since 2005. Even during his second intifada, he was the most senior Palestinian leader to condemn violence. He's really lost his power in the street.
CHURCH: That is a big problem, isn't it? Because in response to the stabbings, Israeli has increased security measures and now both sides are even further away from finding any solution. What is the answer to solving this? Is there a solution out there at all?
BARFI: There's not much President Abbas can do right now. This isn't like the second intifada where we had suicide bombers and foot prints and clues and intelligence that these people left behind and that the Palestinian Authority and intelligence services could act against them. These are people who wake up in the morning, they're mad at Jews, mad at Israel, they pick up a knife or axe and they go and stab the closest Israeli they can find. There's nothing you can do in that situation.
CHURCH: But what about a solution to big picture here? We know that John Kerry is going to go and talk in the Middle East. Is that of any help, any consequence at this point? And are we at the point, do you think, where this could trigger a third intifada?
BARFI: Rosemary, these are short-term Band-Aids, sending the secretary of state over there. Bush sent Colin Powell over to Israel in April 2002 when the Israelis -- when there were Israeli incursions into the West Bank cities. This is not the time where we're going to see solving of any problems. There's still going to be a level of escalation before tempers simmers down. We're not going to see a lot of decisions and solutions put on the table.
CHURCH: All right, a very sobering analysis there.
Barak Barfi, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate it.
BARFI: Thanks for having me.
[02:10:00] BARNETT: Now, unfortunately, as we've discussed, the violence in Israel is nothing new, but this particular wave of aggression is very different in tactics than have been used in the past. Our Ben Wedeman has a breakdown on that for you and you can see it now at CNN.com.
Now to other stories we're following. Russia and the U.S. have wrapped up a third round of talks aimed at keeping military flights safe in the skies over Syria. CHURCH: A U.S. official tells CNN an agreement is expected soon.
Russian and U.S. aircraft came within visual range of each other again this past weekend.
BARNETT: For more, let's bring in Jill Dougherty, a researcher with the International Center for Defense and Security. She joins us now live from Moscow this morning.
Jill, thanks for joining us once again.
So the U.S. and Russia are nearing some kind of safety agreement. But which side holds more cards here, has more leverage in those talks? Because the fact that the U.S. even needs to coordinate with Russia is itself an accomplishment for the Kremlin.
JILL DOUGHERTY, RESEARCHER, INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR DEFENSE AND SECURITY: Well, I think actually both said are about even in this because it's very narrowly focused. It's focused on safety in the skies, figuring out how they do not interfere with each other, that there's an international incident. I think when you get into more of the political issues, that's where Russia would like to broaden talks with the United States about the solution in Syria, a political solution and the United States is saying, no, we think you have a flawed policy and we are not going to do that. In fact, the Russians actually did want to have a high level delegation here in Russia, led by Prime Minister Medvedev and they wanted the same type of delegation to come here to Moscow, but the United States won't do it. So that's where you get into the one-upmanship or the political side of it. But the military talks are important because, after all, you do have two air forces, U.S. and Russian, carrying out attacks in the same country.
BARNETT: Now, domestically, where you are, Russians like what they're hearing and seeing on state television because this is being sold as a way of protecting Russia from external attacks. But over the past two weeks of this Russian campaign, another thing that's happened is U.S. intelligence officials have noticed new Russian aircraft and ship-based cruise missiles being used and in some ways, that's changing the Western perception of Russian forces. Might that be another motivation for Putin's intervention here, since he led the modernization of the military?
DOUGHERTY: Well, that's a good point. Ultimately, there are a lot of reasons that president Putin wants to or decided to take that action in Syria. One of which is to simply continue the relationship long standing, 40 years, with Syria, and to keep its base. It has the base in tart use, which is a naval base. And then it also has this new airfield in Latakia, which is really quite impressive the way they built that up. So those are certain political reasons, but how it's going over with the Russian citizens, I think it's going very well, according to the polls. You have about 72 percent, according to one poll, from the Lafada Center (ph) that I saw. But there, Errol, concern among Russians, kind of below the surface, you could say, about this potentially turning into Afghanistan. You remember the Soviet forces were bogged down for many years. And there's a number that poll was -- there are 46 percent who said that they are somewhat concerned, 38 percent saying no. So that's a factor in all of this as well.
BARNETT: Very interesting stuff there.
Jill Dougherty joining us from Moscow. Quarter past 9:00 in the morning there. Jill, thank you.
CHURCH: You'll probably never know for sure. Donald Trump's remarks on who is responsible for the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight 17. His explanation just ahead.
BARNETT: And it's not considered a land of excess, but North Korea is rewarding some with lavish gifts. Who's on the receiving end? Next.
CHURCH: Plus, Lamar Odom once battled on the basketball court, now he's fighting for his life. More on the reality star's condition when we return. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
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CHURCH: Democratic candidate, Hillary Clinton, is hot on the U.S. presidential campaign trail after her big debate night.
BARNETT: She'll be stopping in Texas on Thursday to answer questions for the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce. On Wednesday, she spoke to workers in Nevada.
Our Brianna Keilar has details on her campaign stops.
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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She's courting some of the key constituencies in this swing state of Nevada, union members and Hispanics. Her first stop today was at a trade union event where she picked up the endorsement, very key in Nevada. Also building on Monday when she stood next to union members picketing at the Trump hotel. And then she made an unexpected stop at a place that is well known, serving Mexican ice creams and other treats as she tries to court this Hispanic voter constituency here in Nevada.
She did talk about Joe Biden. This was really interesting. She was asked about this, and again she said, he needs to make the decision that's best for him and his family.
This is really part of this big campaign swing that she's making this week. From here, she'll go to Texas, New Hampshire on Friday, Alabama on Saturday as she tries to really capitalize on what her campaign sees as a really strong performance. You know she's been struggling to garner some of that enthusiasm that Bernie Sanders has been able to get. And she's trying to create that following her debate performance.
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[02:20:06] BARNETT: Speaking of Clinton's big rival, Bernie Sanders, he made stops of his own on Wednesday. He was in Los Angeles to raise money for his campaign. Senator Sanders once again touched on his big moment from the debate.
CHURCH: And earlier in the day, he taped an appearance for a daytime talk show.
Sunlen Serfaty has the details on that and Senator Sanders' next steps.
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SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Bernie Sanders is really trying to capitalize on his debate performance, and for the moment, his focus is on momentum and money. Already touting that the campaign has raised $2 million since that debate and here in Los Angeles, Bernie Sanders, in his first comment since the debate, touted all that money that she sees pouring into his campaign, and talked about that memorable moment he had up there on the debate stage, talking about Hillary Clinton's e-mails. That got a big crowd reaction here.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS, (I), VERMONT & DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm tired of Hillary's e-mails. Let's talk about real issues!
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SERFATY: Bernie Sanders will make an attempt to show his softer side, something that has significantly challenged him while out on the campaign trail. We got an early look at his interview with "Ellen" and, yes, he does do a little dance. He divulges his favorite song is "Staying Alive," and that he thinks he has the best hair of the candidates.
Going forward, there will be a small shift in strategy among the standard campaign events. Instead of holding the big booming rallies, he'll continue to have big campaign events, but they're also going to make pains to place the candidate in smaller, more intimate events where he can have one-on-one conversations with the voters and that is going to start this weekend in Iowa.
Back to you.
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BARNETT: Sunlen Serfaty there. Search "Bernie Sanders' dancing online." You'll thank me later.
That's more of that.
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CHURCH: Well, Donald Trump doesn't think there's enough evidence to blame Russia for bringing down Malaysia Airlines flight 17.
BARNETT: But the Republican presidential candidate said Moscow was probably behind it. This comes after the new Dutch report saying last summer's crash was caused by a Russian-made rocket and warhead.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: They say it wasn't them. It may have been their weapon, but they didn't use it, they didn't fire it. They even said the other side fired it, to blame them. To be honest with you, you'll probably never know for sure. It was probably Russia. It was probably people involved on the pro-Russia side.
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BARNETT: And to be clear, U.S. intelligence said it believes that pro-Russian separatists fired that missile.
CHURCH: The former basketball and reality TV star, Lamar Odom, is fighting for his life right now in a Las Vegas hospital. The superstar was found unresponsive Tuesday at the Love Ranch, a legal brothel near Las Vegas.
BARNETT: Employees there say Odom had used cocaine and sexual performance enhancement supplements before he was found unconscious. Odom has struggled with substance abuse issues for years.
CNN's Randi Kaye has more on his troubled past.
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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Lamar Odom seemed to have it all, a famous wife, a reality show, and two NBA world championship rings, earned during his two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers. But inside, there was turmoil, which only got worse after he and reality star, Khloe Kardashian, separated back in 2013. The couple had their own reality show, "Khloe and Lamar."
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LAMAR ODOM, LOS ANGELES LAKERS BASKETBALL PLAYER: I want to get married right now.
KHLOE KARDASHIAN, REALITY-TV STAR: You want to marry me?
ODOM: I would do it right now.
(END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE: In 2013, Odom was pulled over for drunk driving. After a
short stint at rehab for drug and alcohol addiction, rumors of infidelity and drug use continued.
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KARDASHIAN: I'm on high alert for Lamar, because I think anything will set him to spiral, and that's the last thing I want for him.
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KAYE: Odom's spiraling may have started early on. His life marked by so much sadness. His father was a heroin addict who left when Odom was young. His mother died of cancer when he was 12. He tried to focus on basketball.
ODOM: I won't get too caught up in that. I just go out and play my game and help the team that I play for now.
KAYE: In 2001, Odom was suspended for five games after violating the league's anti-drug policy.
ODOM: I'm disappointed at myself for not handling myself correctly, for letting the people that's close to me down.
KAYE: Two years later, in 2003, he spoke to the "Miami Herald" about marijuana, saying, "I just couldn't control myself in L.A. The lifestyle I was living and the things I had access to. A lot of times I think about it and say, damn, am I fighting my father's demons?"
But those weren't the only demons. In 2006, Odom's infant son died from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. His cousin was shot and killed. Two of his friends died of drug-related causes.
He said, "Death always seems to be around me. I've been burying people for a long time."
Whatever demons he may have been fighting seem to have appeared again when Odom was found unconscious at Love Ranch brothel, about an hour's drive from Las Vegas.
The owner said Odom had called him Saturday to arrange a visit, describing Odom as a bit somber. When two women went to check on him, they found him unresponsive and called 911.
[02:25:38] DENNIS HOF, OWNER, LOVE RANCH BROTHEL: 911 said put him on his left side and they did. Started throwing up. He was still alive. Ambulance came, police came, they immediately said, this is not looking good.
KAYE: Emergency crews tried to airlift him to a Vegas hospital. But the 6'10" Odom was too tall to fit into a helicopter. He was driven by ambulance to another facility.
Randi Kaye, CNN, Las Vegas, Nevada. (END VIDEOTAPE)
BARNETT: Now to another tragic and bizarre story. A New York couple is charged with manslaughter in the death of their teenage son, and their church is coming under police scrutiny. The family belongs to the secretive World of Life Church, which describes itself as Christian. A former member tells us it's a small church with only 35 members, but that person says it's not a cult.
CHURCH: Police say 19-year-old Lucas Leonard and his younger brother were beaten for hours in the hopes they would confess to prior sins. Lucas was pronounced dead at a hospital. His 17-year-old brother is in serious condition. Four other church members face assault charges.
BARNETT: Still to come here on CNN NEWSROOM, they escaped war and famine, now Kenya has started sending long-time Somali refugees back to their homeland. We'll tell you about their deep concerns.
CHURCH: Plus, the devastating scene at the hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan. A close-up look at the aftermath of that deadly air strike.
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[02:30:22] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: And a warm welcome back to our viewers all across the world. I'm Rosemary Church.
ERROL BARNETT, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Errol Barnett. Let's update you on the top stories we're tracking right now.
There's a sense of fear in Israel and the Palestinian territories today after yet another day of attacks. Police on Wednesday shot and killed a 19-year-old man from the West Bank armed with a knife after he allegedly lunged at officers. And at the central bus station, police say a 72-year-old woman was stabbed.
CHURCH: Syrian rebels north of Aleppo are on the alert of a reported offensive by government forces to take back the city. Iran's semi-official Fars New Agency cites intelligence sources who say Syria, Hezbollah, and the Russian air force are gearing up for the assault.
BARNETT: Employees at a Nevada brothel say basketball and reality TV star, Lamar Odom, used cocaine and sexual performance enhancement pills before he was found unresponsive on Tuesday. He's now fighting for his life in a Las Vegas hospital, with his estranged wife, TV star, Khloe Kardashian, by his side. Odom has a history of substance abuse.
CHURCH: In Kenya, the government wants thousands of refugees to go back to Somalia, but returning them to their homeland is not easy.
BARNETT: For more than two decades, they've been sheltered at the world's largest refugee camp.
And as David McKenzie reports, members of one refugee family fear what they'll find if they're ever sent back.
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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They came to Kenya, escaping war and famine. Now they're heading back to Somalia on a United Nations plane. For the youngest, born into the Dadaab Refugee Camp, it's a home they never knew.
(on camera): This is the first plane to Mogadishu this morning. It's a pilot program to resettle Somalis back in their homeland. They say they want to send hundreds of thousands of refugees in the next few years. But many say it's not an option.
(voice-over): Because for most of the refugees here, Dadaab has become home. The sprawling complex is a refugee city of more than 300,000, making it the largest refugee camp in the world. Living crammed together, some have been here just a few years, some, a lifetime. And at first glance, for those refugees, it can seem strangely normal here.
26-year-old refugee Mohammed Abdullah helps run a transfer shop. He's been here since childhood. But as a refugee, he cannot buy his own goods to sell. He can't leave the camp without permission. He isn't allowed a formal job. Abdullah says that Dadaab is like a prison.
MOHAMMAD ABDULLAH, REFUGEE: I don't know another country. What I know is only this refugee camp.
MCKENZIE (on camera): You know no other life?
ABDULLAH: No.
MCKENZIE (voice-over): Abdullah's mother, Howa (ph) arrived with him in 1994. His wife, Sarah, was born here. So was their daughter, Samir (ph). They are three generations of refugees living under one roof.
ABDULLAH: What I fear is going back to Somalia. And right now, there is no business Somalia. There is war. So I don't want to go back there.
MCKENZIE: He says, he has no farm, no family, no reason to go back, and he wants a better life for Samir (ph) in Kenya, or the West.
But some are willing to take a leap of faith. Each refugee is given about $100 to return to Somalia. They face an uncertain future in a place they once fled.
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CHURCH: And CNN's international correspondent, David McKenzie, joins us now from Johannesburg. David, it's difficult when you look at the conditions that people
are confronting there. I did want to get an idea from you since you spent so much time there. How does Kenya decide who gets sent back at this stage? And what do they return to when they go back to Somalia? What confronts them?
[02:34:49] MCKENZIE: Well, it's a very good question, Rosemary. And many of these refugees don't want to go back. The U.N. Refugee Agency did a survey last year, and less than 3 percent said they wanted to go back in the next three years. But still it's a voluntary program. They're pushing for hundreds of thousands to be sent back in the next few years. When they get there, they do face problems, of course, in Somalia. Somalia is still deeply insecure with al Shabaab, the Islamic militant group pushing the African Union forces there, they have expanded the zones where refugees can move back to, saying nine regions of Somalia in the north and south and Mogadishu are safe enough, but some of the refugees question that. And because they're been in Kenya, in these camps, sometimes for a lifetime, they say they have nothing to go back to. So it's really this catch 22. The situation within Dadaab is pretty bad. They have ration cuts that are causing, at this stage, malnutrition in some of the youngest children, but they don't want to leave because they face an uncertain future in Somalia. So it's really a classic case of an intractable refugee situation -- Rosemary?
CHURCH: Very difficult for them, indeed.
David McKenzie reporting there live from Johannesburg. Many thanks to you.
BARNETT: David's remarkable story about life in the world's largest refugee camp continues online. There you'll learn more about the people who call Dadaab home, and find out why many residents say they feel abandoned by the agencies that are supposed to help them.
CHURCH: There's also an interactive feature that gives you a 360-degree bird's-eye-view of the camp, all of that and more at CNN.com/dadaab.
BARNETT: Afghan Special Forces are back in control of the Taliban stronghold in Kunduz Province. The defense ministry said it pushed the militants out of the district and that a large number of enemy fighters were killed during the operation.
CHURCH: The Taliban, however, claim theirs was a strategic withdrawal after achieving their objective objectives.
Meantime, Doctors Without Borders is calling on the U.S. and Afghan governments to cooperate with an independent investigation into the U.S. bombing of the aid group's Kunduz hospital.
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DR. JOANNE LIU, PRESIDENT, MEDICINS SANS FRONTIERES: We have just been told it's a fact that it's going to be activated. It's been activated, meaning that now we basically have done almost 50 percent of the journey, because now the next step is to get the consent from the two countries, Afghanistan and USA, to consent to carry it on for this fact-finding commission.
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BARNETT: Now, of course, because of the fighting in the area, access to the hospital has been very limited. Now, though, we're seeing images from inside. It reveals devastation.
And we have to give you a warning here, some of the images are extremely graphic.
CHURCH: They are. The strike killed 22 patients and medical staff members. You can see the walls and medical equipment are charred from the firebomb after the hospital was struck. One unknown victim is seen still lying in the rubble. It's horrifying. The U.S. apologized for the attack and promised condolence payments will be made to the victims' families.
BARNETT: We spoke with the photographer who captured those pictures. Andrew Quilty said this was a perspective on air strikes that was far different from what we're used to.
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ANDREW QUILTY, PHOTOGRAPHER (voice-over): I think when we think of air strikes, most people are familiar with the footage that we see, that's captured from the planes that carry them out. And they're usually F-16s, or these fighter jets. However, the A.C.-130 is very different in that it has a number of different munitions it can deploy. And that what I saw was a variety of different, I suppose, wounds to the building from small marks that looked like small rounds, small bullet holes, to much larger ones, and then also shrapnel, the effects of shrapnel and the like.
The only part of the hospital that was spared is the main building -- and when I say spared, I mean, it wasn't completely destroyed -- was the operating theaters, which account for 10 to 20 percent of the entire building. Having said that, it was, I suppose, damaged probably beyond repair. Only it wasn't burnt like the rest of the building in the pictures that you're seeing.
The human remains were, for the most part, almost entirely unrecognizable as human remains. Most of them were burnt beyond recognition and took the form of just these blackened lumps of flesh that often I would walk past and, in some cases, I'd only come across in photos after looking at it initially and even on the day.
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[02:40:12] CHURCH: The photographer, Andrew Quilty, talking there.
And you can hear the full CNN interview with the president of Doctors Without Borders on "Amanpour." That is at 11:00 a.m. in London. BARNETT: So many North Koreans live in poverty, but for some
Pyongyang residents, it's a much different story. We'll give you an exclusive look next.
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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Millions of North Koreans live in extreme poverty, many of them suffering from chronic malnutrition. Even heat and electricity can be hard to come by. But those living in Pyongyang are seeing big benefits pop up in their city.
CNN's Will Ripley took an exclusive tour.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's lunch time in Pyongyang. The North Koreans say we're the first foreign media to come aboard the Rainbow. Four stories, eight restaurants and cafes, 11,000 square meters, all floating on the Taedong River.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
RIPLEY: Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un's recent field inspection, a lead story on state-controlled media. The announcer calling it a gift to the people.
(on camera): So this is where the leader sat? You marked the spot here?
RIPLEY (voice-over): At the revolving restaurant and others inspected by the leader, you can probably guess the most coveted seats.
(on camera): What do your customers say when they sit in this chair in particular?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): Everyone wants to sit here where the leader sat, she says, they rush to grab it.
RIPLEY: Look at that line.
(voice-over): A week after opening, the Rainbow is seeing capacity crowds. 2,000 people in the first hour.
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RIPLEY: Factory worker, Song Un (ph), brought his whole family.
(on camera): Is this affordable for everyday people here in North Korea?
"Anyone can come here," he says. "It's meant for all people."
[02:45:11] (voice-over): Menu items run the equivalent of a few U.S. cents to a few dollars. It's hard to calculate exactly how much the average North Korean earns, some say about a hundred dollars a month.
Virtually nobody owns a car, but they can still pay up to $2 per ride at the Rumna (ph) Peoples' Amusement Park.
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RIPLEY: "I'm so happy to watch my daughter on the ride," says grandmother, Kim Auk Sung (ph).
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RIPLEY: Her family among 3,000 people at the park, considered a busy night.
"I've tried all the rides," says her daughter, Choipeol (ph). "This one is my favorite."
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RIPLEY: Some may consider this an odd investment for a nation with regular food and electricity shortages. But it's part of a promise by the regime to improve people's living standards.
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RIPLEY: We don't know what life is like in parts of North Korea we're not allowed to visit. Defectors and aid workers paint a far darker picture than these sparkling lights. But here in the capital, there are more new amenities each year, more new rewards for absolute loyalty to the leader.
Will Ripley, CNN, Pyongyang, North Korea.
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BARNETT: Now to the weather. Wintry weather has been pounding parts of Germany for 24 hours.
Our Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri joins us to give us some insight into how good or bad it is.
Some folks like to ski with the snow, but other folks like to live and get things done.
PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: That's right. October, not unheard of to get snowfall across Germany, but typically the lower elevations don't get it until November. The higher elevations, there's a town north of Frankfurt, they picked up significant snow, first time for early-season snow since October of 1994. So it's unusual to get in the lower elevations.
We'll talk about what's happened. Spectacular images. When you think about this time of year, and this particular tree, not the case, necessarily, but talking about trees with leaves, a lot of surface area. And the snowfall sits on them, weighs them down, power outages become an issue as well. But the storm responsible is a slow-moving storm. All the moisture translates into high-elevation snow, sometimes cool enough for lower-elevation snow. Next 48 hours, additional snowfall on top of this on the order of 20-plus centimeters on top of the 28 centimeters that came down across some of these regions. Certainly, a story for parts of Europe getting an initial case of wintery weather.
But I want to talk about a potent storm system sitting about a thousand kilometers east of Luzan. Potentially, a category three or four. Difficult to tell. Model indication is a beeline for portions of Luzan. This would take it Saturday into Sunday local time. If this happens, the storm really looks to stall over this region and that's a prominent concern for tremendous rainfall to come down. 25 storms, that's how many named storms in the Pacific. 21 is normal for this time of season. We've had six typhoons, and the red lines are indicative of typhoons in 2015. Only one of them skirted the coast of the Philippines with another one farther south coming in as a typhoon. So with all the storms, we've had very little direct typhoon impacts, and this one certainly a story worth following in the coming days.
We'll take you to Jupiter and show you some images coming out of Jupiter. Fascinating images.
I know Mr. Barnett is in love with this kind of stuff.
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BARNETT: This is incredible!
JAVAHERI: Yes, it is. You're looking at the big red spot. Believe it or not, it's three times larger than the size of earth, just that red spot right there. And that's essentially a hurricane on the planet there that has wind speeds in excess of 330 miles per hour, about 530 kilometers per hour.
BARNETT: Wow.
JAVAHERI: And it's starting to shrink.
And, Errol, these storms last well over 150 years. This particular one likely has been going for hundreds of years.
CHURCH: Wow.
JAVAHERI: But it's starting to shrink as we're seeing successive images from recent years. So maybe a few more decades under its belt before it's gone.
BARNETT: Yeah. And NASA released this video in such high detail. We don't know what's under those clouds. We don't know what's in there. But it's incredible.
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JAVAHERI: Absolutely stunning stuff.
BARNETT: Pedram, thank you very much. JAVAHERI: Thank you.
BARNETT: You know, I'm never a fan on a plane when there's a baby next to you, but imagine a baby born next to you on the plane.
CHURCH: Yeah, a flight lands with one more person. We'll tell you more. That's next.
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[02:51:13] DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORTS ANCHOR: I'm Don Riddell with your CNN "World Sport" headlines.
Jose Mourinho may be one of the most entertaining managers in world football, but he's been sanctioned again and threatened with a one-match ban. He was fined over $77,000 after suggesting that referees are afraid to give decisions to his team. His comments were made after the blues home loss to Southampton earlier this month. Mourinho's total fines now stand at almost $140,000. If he's found guilty again, within a year, a one-game ban will be imposed.
Meanwhile, as the sports world's governing body FIFA lurches from one ethical crisis to another, it's still trying to be the moral standard bearer and investigate others' of wrongdoing. FIFA has confirmed it's investigating last summer's transfer of Mangala form Porto to Manchester City. They're probing a possible breach of third- party ownership rules. Man City themselves are not under investigation, but Porto could be fined or prevented from making transfers in the future.
The young Australian tennis star, Nick Kirgyos (ph) has further consolidated his reputation for being the most badly behaved tennis player. During his recent defeat to a Kenya player, Kirgyos (ph) slapped the ball away in frustration and nearly hit a line judge. It was his third code violation in just six days. If he's not careful, he could be banned from the tour.
That is a quick look at your sports headlines. I'm Don Riddell
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CHURCH: OK, how about this story, a baby girl will have quite the story to tell about her birth. Her mum was in the middle of a flight when her water broke, prematurely.
BARNETT: Yikes. Luckily, there was a doctor around. And as is always the case in this day and age, the happy event was caught on many cameras.
Our Jeanne Moos has more.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This China
Airlines flight arrived with an extra passenger on board. Place of birth, row 49.
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MOOS: Give the newborn baby girl a hand.
EDMOND CHEN, PASSENGER: I just thought it was an amazing experience to see someone giving birth right in front of me.
MOOS: Edmond Chen didn't just see it, he shot it.
The China Airlines flight took off from Taiwan, headed for Los Angeles.
(on camera): Six hours into the flight, over the middle of the Pacific Ocean, the woman informed the crew that her water had broken.
(voice-over): The pilot diverted the flight to Anchorage, Alaska, and moved the mother, in labor two months early, to her own row, right in front of Edmond.
CHEN: Oh, there was a lot of screaming by the mother.
MOOS: Is there a doctor on the plane? There was. Though this UCLA internist had never before delivered a baby by herself. Dr. Angelica Zen was on her way home from her honeymoon. She spoke mandarin with the Taiwanese mother and told ABC --
[02:55:14] DR. ANGELICA ZEN, PHYSICIAN: It was very difficult. We had to work under very constraining circumstances.
CHEN: They try to cover the whole row with blankets.
MOOS: 30 minutes out of Anchorage, the baby arrived before the plane did. Doctors then said the flight attendants acted as stand-in nurses. And the one holding the baby cried.
When the plane landed, mom and baby were taken to the hospital in good shape.
The flight continued to Los Angeles where Edmond's dad had been waiting for four or five hours.
CHEN: I was like, Dad, someone gave birth on the plane.
MOOS: Talk about being air-born.
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MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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BARNETT: Wow. CHURCH: How about that?
BARNETT: All's well that ends well.
CHURCH: Good for her. You're really not supposed to get on a plane if you're anywhere near it. That baby must have been very premature.
BARNETT: Two months early there.
CHURCH: Yeah.
BARNETT: Now animal features on television can be unpredictable.
CHURCH: One animal handler in Nebraska thought he'd add an extra surprise to the mix when he brought a skunk to the morning show.
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UNIDENTIFIED ANIMAL HANDLER: As long as it doesn't feel threatened, you're totally safe with skunks, but their self-defense mechanism, they'll spray. So if they get scared, if they feel threatened at all, they'll shoot out a spray.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Uh-huh. Ooh!
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CHURCH: Wow. Don't anyone get any ideas here, right?
The handler hid a water bottle under the skunk and sprayed the anchors with H2O while talking about the skunk's foul-smelling defense mechanism as we saw.
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BARNETT: That's why we don't allow water bottles on the set here, just in case.
CHURCH: No water, no skunks.
BARNETT: Don't get any bright ideas.
CHURCH: Thanks for watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Rosemary Church.
BARNETT: And I'm Errol Barnett.
Please do stay with us for another hour of the world's biggest stories. We'll be right back.
