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Netanyahu Blames Palestine for Violence; Russia, U.S. Agree on Measures to Keep Aircraft Safe; Syrian Fighting Creates Refugees Flooding Europe; Paul Ryan Considers U.S. House Speakership; Speculation Grows of Joe Biden Presidential Run; Ethics Complaint Filed Against Judge; Palestine Perspective of Israeli/Palestine Conflict; Israeli Perspective of Israeli/Palestine Conflict; New Breast Cancer Screening Guidelines; "Back to the Future's" DeLorean Celebrated. Aired 2-3a ET
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[02:00:10] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: The new diplomatic push for peace between Palestinians and Israelis.
ERROL BARNETT, CNN ANCHOR: Russia and the U.S. hammer out a secret deal to make Syria's crowded skies safer for their warplanes.
CHURCH: And we break down the new guidelines over breast cancer screenings. BARNETT: Also, give blood or go to jail, an Alabama judge's
controversial ultimatum. We'll have that story for you as well.
Hi, everyone. I'm Errol Barnett.
CHURCH: Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church. This is CNN NEWSROOM.
And we begin in the Middle East where U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki- moon is preparing to meet with Palestinian Authority leader, Mahmoud Abbas.
BARNETT: The secretary-general is on a surprise visit to help rein in the spiraling violence between Palestinians and Israelis.
He met Tuesday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who placed blame for the unrest squarely on the Palestinian leadership.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER: It comes at a troubling time. In recent weeks, Israelis have been deliberately run over, shot, stabbed, even hacked to death. And in large part, this is because President Abbas has joined ISIS and Hamas in claiming that Israel threatens the al Aqsa Mosque. This, Mr. Secretary, is a total lie. Israel vigorously protects the holy sites of all faiths. We keep the status quo.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: In the past few weeks, at least eight Israelis have been killed by Palestinians, either stabbed or run down with cars. Israel has responded with force, killing 45 Palestinians since this most recent outbreak of violence began.
BARNETT: CNN's Phil Black is in Jerusalem and joins us now live this morning.
Phil, there has been more violence there with no sign of any kind of resolution to this anytime soon. What do we know?
PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Errol, it's only 9:00 a.m. local time, and we've already heard about the first violence in the region today. It involved a Palestinian, who according to Israeli officials was approaching an Israeli settlement in the West Bank. This person was apparently carrying a knife. Warning shots were fired, they were ignored, and so this person was shot. And we're told, lightly injured. But the Palestinian involved in this incident was a 15-year- old girl. As I say, this is just the first incident of the day. There is no sign this recent cycle of violence is drawing to a close, which leaves some pessimistic alternatives, one of them being that this is simply the new normal in the region. That this cycle of regular attacks, involving Palestinians acting independently, almost opportunistically, seeking to harm Israelis, whether they be soldiers or civilians, largely with knives, but other weapons as well. That that will continue on a daily basis while the Israeli security crackdown and the security measures they're putting into place continues as well. Particularly controlling the movements of Palestinians in the east of Jerusalem. The other alternative and the U.N. Secretary Ban Ki-moon has touched on this in his comments, is escalation, where things only get worse. Given the powder-keg type mood that exists here at the moment, it's very difficult to predict what sort of event or occasion could really trigger that. But there is always the sense here that that could happen very easily -- Errol?
BARNETT: And, Phil, the tension, the divide, the lack of trust between Israelis and Palestinians, it's something that's existed decades, since Israel's creation. And not a single negotiated peace plan has reversed any of that or even held. And currently as we've discussed, the opposing sides aren't even talking to one another. With the U.N. secretary-general there, are there any new ideas being thrown around, any reason for a slimmer of optimism?
BLACK: Well, I don't think the goals at this stage are quite that ambitious. The U.N. secretary-general has spoken about the need to return to talks and a peace process of some kind. But at the moment, the initial focus is really just on dialing back, just begging both sides to step back a little, use more language that is -- certainly dial back their language, be perhaps, less insightful, although both sides make that accusation of the other.
Here on the ground, there's little hope that that effort is going to have success. You also have the U.S. secretary of state in Germany today with the Israeli prime minister. There's expected to be an effort there to dial things back as well. But as I say, little hope, because what both sides agree on, really, or believe, is that the other is behaving and using language in such a way that only exacerbates this and makes it worse. And neither side believes that anyone can really influence that in the short-term -- Errol?
[02:05:28] BARNETT: Yeah. And those views, those opinions, have existed for some time.
9:05 in the morning there. Phil Black live in Jerusalem, thanks.
CHURCH: We turn now to Syria, where there's no let-up in Russian air strikes. The defense ministry reports the strikes hit 60 targets in a 24-hour period. After several close encounters in the skies, the U.S. and Russia have agreed to measures to keep their aircraft safe.
Barbara Starr has details of the new protocols.
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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Pentagon agreed to Russia's demand not to make public details of the joint agreement on how to prevent U.S. and Russian pilots from crashing into each other in the skies over Syria. The U.S. is not revealing how vague the agreement is.
PETER COOK, PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY: Our crews certainly know exactly what a safe distance is, and the obligation is upon the Russians, to maintain that safe distance.
STARR: But CNN has learned it does not even specify how far away U.S. and Russian aircraft have to stay from each other.
COOK: These protocols include maintaining professional airmanship at all times. The use of specific communication frequencies and the establishment of a communication line on the ground.
STARR: If there is an incident, a U.S. pilot will have to call the American command center in Qatar. The U.S. will then call Russian counterparts in Syria.
But in reality, there may not be time to call. Russian pilots have come as close as 500 feet to American jets in recent days. On Thursday, a Russian aircraft flew within 1,500 feet of two U.S. jets. The American pilots tried calling the Russians on the radio. No answer. The Russians continuing with air strikes, the skies getting more crowded.
The Russians may not be hostile to American pilots, but an Air Force official tells CNN, "The last thing anyone of us wants is a mid-air collision, and that is the biggest concern."
COL. CEDRIC LEIGHTON, RETIRED U.S. AIR FORCE: If there's a close approach between any type of aircraft and another aircraft, sometimes it's too late for those aircraft to visually identify each other and then move apart.
STARR (on camera): U.S. officials emphasize so far there is no hostile intent from the Russians. Nobody anticipates a shoot down. But there's still plenty of concern about the potential for an accident.
Barbara Starr, CNN, the Pentagon.
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BARNETT: Meantime, the fight for the northern Syrian city of Aleppo is intensifying. Regime forces are battling to retake the city. It's the largest in the country.
CHURCH: Thousands of civilians are seeking refuge in fields, some with only mattresses to shield them. The U.N. estimates 35,000 people have been forced from their homes.
A representative from a medical aid group gave an emotional first-hand account of the relief efforts and the exodus.
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UNIDENTIFIED MEDIAL AID GROUP MEMBER: We can't do this alone. We can't provide enough food. We can't provide enough medicine. We can't provide shelter. Even if we do so for a small portion, we can't take it alone. It's enough for us, for god sake upon we can't take it anymore, we can't. We can't. So tired, so helpless. I'm sorry, but I can't, I can't stop. We don't know what to do, for god's sake. Swear to god, we are just about to collapse, all of us.
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CHURCH: Just heart-breaking there.
Our international viewers can watch that full interview on "Amanpour" coming up in just a few hours.
BARNETT: You won't to miss it. He's tried so hard, for so long, to bring help to those in Syria and his emotions just taking over there.
Now, many of the Syrians are fleeing their war-torn country for Europe, flooding borders in the region as they make their way to Germany.
Atika Shubert has that part of the story.
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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They walked in a long, snaking line from Croatia, into Slovenia. In this group alone, more than 2,000 seeking refuge in Europe, led by border police on horseback, to a registration camp with a capacity for just 400 people.
With Hungary closing its borders, refugees are trying to across through Slovenia to get to Germany. Slovenia has tried to reduce the number of migrants coming in to only 2,500 a day. That's only a portion of those trying to enter. Slovenia is now deploying its army and considering building a border fence to regulate the numbers coming in. And there are no signs of stopping. In Macedonia, over the weekend, a
record 10,000 migrants crossed in from Greece, undeterred by rain and mud. Many came from Syria.
[02:10:25] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why now? Because now, in English, is, call them ISIS? Yeah, ISIS came. Before the situation was just bombs, airplanes. But the same events every day. But now, ISIS came. That's not a life.
SHUBERT: UNHCR were at the scene to provide food, aid, and how to apply for asylum, but few wanted to stay.
UNIDENTIFIED UNHCR REPRESENTATIVE: We have about maybe six hours in total. So at this time, we are using to provide a little bit of comfort to counsel them, to talk to them, to get to know their stories, and to find out a little bit more why they're moving, how they are moving, and what they need.
SHUBERT: Instead, most keep moving north to Croatia and Slovenia, hoping to make it to Germany before more of Europe closes its borders.
Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.
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BARNETT: We move our focus now to U.S. politics and the search for a new speaker House of Representatives. Republican Congressman Paul Ryan said he didn't want the job, and now he's stepping up with conditions.
CHURCH: Late Monday, Ryan said he's willing to serve, but only with support from three key factions within the party. Ryan also said he doesn't want to give up valuable time with his family.
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REP. PAUL RYAN, (R), WISCONSIN: If I can truly be a unifying figure, then I will gladly serve. And if I'm not unifying, that will be fine as well. I'll be happy to stay where I am, at the Ways and Means committee.
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BARNETT: Ryan says he hopes to make his decision within a week. Current House Speaker John Boehner plans to resign at the end of October, but he cannot do so until he has a replacement.
CHURCH: And Mike Ryan (sic) has leverage at this point. And it's unusual to see a man to put the value of time with his family. That is unique in itself.
BARNETT: Paul Ryan saying, give this to me, and I'll consider it. We'll see if he gets what he wants.
CHURCH: We'll see if he can unite. All right, next here on CNN NEWSROOM, as one hopeful drops out of the
Democratic Party's race for president, another may be getting ready to step up. We will have more on Joe Biden's possible run for the White House.
BARNETT: And a lavish state dinner at Buckingham Palace. The British welcome for China's president, and the protests on the sidelines, next.
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[02:15:08] DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: I'm Don Riddell, with your CNN "World Sport" headlines.
Another eight games have been played in the Champions League. Arsenal needed a win against the German champions Bayern Munich and they got it. The Gunners broke the deadlock when the ball went in off Jirude (ph) and made points in the last minute. Mesut Ozil's shot appeared to be safe, but the replay showed across the line and the ref gave it. The game of the night came when the German side blew a two-goal lead against Rome but then produced a late fight back to share the points in a thrilling 4-0 draw.
The election to select a new FIFA president will go ahead as originally planned on the 26th of February next year, football's world governing body has confirmed, but as the Ethics Committee tries to process their investigations into both Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini, the chairman of the compliance committee has weighed in. He says that Blatter's $2 million payment to Platini was a conflict of interest. Both men deny any wrongdoing.
The short list is out for the annual poll to name the best footballer in the world, and the list has a very familiar ring to it. It's Christiano Ronaldo, Messi and 21 others. Between them, Ronaldo and Messi have won the last seven awards.
That's a quick look at your sports headlines. I'm Don Riddell.
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BARNETT: That music means it's time to discuss the race for the White House. Former Virginia Senator Jim Webb ended his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination on Tuesday.
CHURCH: But Webb is not necessarily out of the running for the nation's top job. Webb told reporters, he will consider becoming an independent candidate. His campaign never really caught enough momentum to compete with heavy hitters like Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders.
Speculation is growing over whether U.S. Vice President Joe Biden will run for president.
BARNETT: Even though he hasn't announced his decision, a campaign of sorts has already begun against potential opponent, Hillary Clinton.
Senior Washington correspondent, Jeff Zeleny, reports.
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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Joe Biden spent the day reminding people he's one heart beat away from the presidency.
JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Best decision of my political career was to join want president.
ZELENY: Flexing his vice presidential muscles like rarely before. Even invoking the killing of Osama bin Laden.
BIDEN: Everybody went around the room and there were only two people who were definitive and were absolutely certain. Leon Panetta said go. And Bob Gates, who's already publicly said this, said don't go.
ZELENY: Old disagreements from the Situation Room could flare up in a potential Democratic presidential race.
BIDEN: As we walked out of the room and walked upstairs, I told him, my opinion, that I thought he should go, but follow his own instincts.
ZELENY: A seeming reversal from the role Biden was thought to have played in opposing the raid. Also making clear he had the last word with the president, not Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who's long said she advised the president to authorize the high-stakes raid.
HILLARY CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I was one who recommended to the president that he go ahead. And his advisers were split, because it was a very risky operation.
BIDEN: -- so help me god.
ZELENY: Biden didn't stop there. He said he had a hand in every decision, even choosing Clinton as secretary of state.
BIDEN: The president at the outset said you have veto right on anybody in this cabinet.
ZELENY: Time is running short for Biden. He has nine days to qualify for the ballot in Georgia, followed by deadlines in Alabama and Texas.
New polls show Biden in a distant third, and more Democrats say he shouldn't run, his campaign in waiting roars on.
BIDEN: That's the healthy part.
ZELENY: He said again today he doesn't believe Republicans are always the bad guys.
BIDEN: I don't think my chief enemy is the Republican Party. This is a matter of, you know, making things work.
ZELENY: A not so subtle jab at this moment from last week's Democratic debate when Hillary Clinton was asked to name her enemies.
CLINTON: Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians --
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-- probably the Republicans.
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ZELENY: Jeff Zeleny, CNN, Washington.
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BARNETT: A new CNN poll has Donald Trump and Ben Carson leading the Republican race. Donald Trump is still the front-runner with 27 percent. And you see he's followed closely by Ben Carson at 22 percent.
[02:20:09] CHURCH: At the other end of the spectrum is Carly Fiorina, who dropped 11 points in the past month, to just 4 percent. Donald Trump isn't ruling out a Trump/Carson ticket for 2016. On CNN's "New Day," he said they both like each other and, quote, "stranger things have happened." But he says it's too early to think about it seriously.
So, how does a candidate who is trailing in the polls drum up support?
BARNETT: Well, Democrat Martin O'Malley highlighted his musical skills -- can I put those in quotes -- on ABC's "The View." Check it out.
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BARNETT: I don't know, Rosie, does he get a passing grade for that.
CHURCH: He played and sang in a band, but maybe that was a few years ago.
BARNETT: That was a little shaky.
He said he chose to play Taylor Swift's bad blood because Katy Perry was endorsing his rival.
CHURCH: Interesting.
Now earlier this summer, Perry posted this photo on Instagram, offering to write a theme song for Clinton. And this weekend, she'll be at a rally for Clinton in Iowa. BARNETT: Now in just a few hours, the Chinese president will meet
with the British prime minister at Number 10 Downing Street. That comes after a royal welcome and a day of pageantry on Tuesday, capped by a state dinner. Xi Jinping and his wife are on a four-day state visit focused on expanding the country's commercial ties.
CHURCH: The Diamond Jubilee Carriage brought President Xi and Queen Elizabeth to Buckingham Palace. He later addressed both houses of British parliament.
But protesters were also voicing their concerns about China's human rights record.
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BARNETT: People across the northern Philippines are picking up the pieces after Typhoon Koppu lashed the island, killing at least 26 people.
CHURCH: The storm produced historic rainfall even for a part of the world used to heavy rainfall.
Our Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri is here to talk more about the situation.
PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Guys, we so often talk about wind speeds with storm systems, but there's no categorization for rainfall amounts. I often tell people winds don't kill people. It's the water they displace off the ocean. Storm surge, or the water they produce over land. Those are the vast majority of fatalities associated with storms. And this storm, rainfall totals the highest of any storm around the world. So we'll break it down. And incredible to think the fatalities staying in the 20s. That's good news for the people who have to deal with the tremendous loss. You take a look at what occurred and some of the observations, you work your way to this dam, an observation site, rainfall totals in excess of 52 inches came down in 24 hours. 28 inches in 12 hours. This is actually greater amounts than we saw in South Carolina for the historic event. The numbers here being confirmed by the weather authorities across the region. But the rain gauges typically record these amounts. Certainly they would be records for the country as a whole. But the global records for the most rainfall ever observed, going back to 1966, 1800 millimeters, or 72 inches came down with the storm in 12 hours. That particular storm brought down 45 inches, which is the number you would have to have in the United States to set the all-time record for rainfall from a storm system. Still have about 50 to u100 millimeters left, little compared to what's already fallen. Inclement weather for the Serbia and Croatia border. And as the weather pattern gets more active, we head in towards the autumn months. And rainfall will be an issue in the region and even snowfall in some of the higher elevations. So a very tough go as we now go into the cooler months of the year. BARNETT: Little moisture, water changing things around.
JAVAHERI: Yeah.
BARNETT: Pedram, thanks a lot.
CHURCH: Thank you. Appreciate it.
A beloved American TV personality and animal rights activist is recovering after a fall in Hollywood.
BARNETT: That's right. Bob Barker -- you should recognize him or the name should ring a bell, because he's the long time host of "The Price is Right" game show. He tripped and hit his head on the sidewalk. Police say Barker, 91, was conscious and alert. Apparently, he's fine. He was rushed to a hospital where he was treated for cuts.
Now, the advocacy group, the Southern Poverty Law Center, has filed an ethics complaint against a judge in the U.S. state of Alabama.
BARNETT: Judge Marvin Wiggins told defendants, if they didn't have money for their fines, they could donate blood or go to jail.
Sally Pitts, with affiliate WSFA, has that story.
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[02:25:15] SALLY PITTS, REPORTER, WSFA (voice-over): This audio obtained by the SPLC, appears to have Judge Marvin Wiggins on record telling defendants to pay up, give blood, or go to jail.
MARVIN WIGGINS, ALABAMA JUDGE: So if you do not have any money and you don't want to go to jail, consider giving blood today, and bring your receipt back.
PITTS: The SPLC says defendants in more than 500 criminal cases were mailed noticed to appear before Wiggins that day. It was September 16th, when a blood drive appeared to be under way at the courthouse.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're still doing a good thing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And I normally do, but I don't like being told I have to or I'm going to jail.
PITTS: An attorney with the SPLC said, "This is a shocking disregard for not only judicial ethics, but for the constitutional rights of defendants."
When asked about the judge's order, the governor expressed concern.
ROBERT BENTLEY, GOVERNOR OF ALABAMA: I'm not so sure you can ask somebody to do an invasive procedure to pay off debts.
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BARNETT: That report from Sally Pitts of CNN affiliate, WSFA. The advocacy group says Judge Wiggins could face ethics charges as a
result of its complaint.
CHURCH: Let's take a break here on CNN NEWSROOM.
Behind the latest violence between Israelis and Palestinians, there are years of rage and frustration on both sides. Ahead, we'll look at the roots of the conflict in the region.
BARNETT: Plus, the debate over mammograms. New recommendations, when women should get screened for breast cancer.
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[02:30:17] CHURCH: And a warm welcome back to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church.
BARNETT: And I'm Errol Barnett. Let's update you on our top stories right now.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is on a surprise visit to the Middle East, urging Israelis and Palestinians to put an end to recent violence. He met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Tuesday and is scheduled to meet with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas on Wednesday.
CHURCH: A police officer is dead after a shoot-out in New York City. The officer and his partner were not in uniform when they responded to reports of gun shots in an east Harlem neighborhood. The 33-year-old officer was named Randolph Holder. He was shot in the head and later died. A suspect is in custody.
BARNETT: Republican Paul Ryan is setting conditions for a possible bid to replace the retiring John Boehner as speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives. Ryan says he would serve as long as three key groups in the party support him. He says he'll decide whether to run for the post within a week.
CHURCH: I want to return now to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict and take a step back from the day's headlines and look at the roots of this latest round of violence.
BARNETT: Israel accuses Palestinian leaders of stirring up incitement over Jewish visitation to a Jerusalem holy site. But for Palestinians, the grievances go much deeper.
CHURCH: Yeah, many have lost hope after living under occupation for decades, watching settlements expand and peace negotiations fail time and time again.
Ben Wedeman has their side of the story.
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BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Pull up your pants, pull up your T-shirt, turn around, show your I.D. -- that's the only way residents of the east Jerusalem Palestinian neighborhood of Esoweia (ph) can get to the city center under tough new security measures in the wake of a spate of stabbing attacks.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly accused of Palestinian Authority, Hamas and others, of inciting the violence. But ask the Palestinians at the checkpoint what's behind it all, and they seem to say the same thing, the Israeli occupation.
"The occupation sleeps on our chests, on our stomachs," says 63-year- old Faruk (ph).
Says this woman, "occupation is oppression, oppression and subjugation."
Since the June 1967 War, more than half a million Israelis have settled in east Jerusalem in the West Bank, often on confiscated Palestinian land. Israel has set up an extensive network of roadblocks and checkpoints across the West Bank and now walls and concrete blocks have gone up in east Jerusalem.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Occupation means that you have approximately two and a half million Palestinians living for almost 50 years now under military administration.
WEDEMAN: The Palestinian Authority, set up after the 1993 Oslo accord, has little authority beyond the confines of Ramallah.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What occupation is the major incitement of the people? People want to live normal life. They want to feel free. There's nothing wrong
WEDEMAN: Former Palestinian Authority Minister warns that stopping the violence without addressing its causes, won't cure the ills of this unhappy land.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE). It can be a relief of pain for a short while, but it will not cure you. You need real medicine to cure you, and the real medicine here is the end of the occupation.
WEDEMAN: The clashes here in Hebron and elsewhere in the West Bank continue. The attacks on Israelis also continue.
(on camera): For the last 30 years, there have been two major Palestinian uprisings. Before, in between, and after, there have been many more flare-ups like this one going on right now. And in the absence of a final resolution to this problem, more flare-ups, and more uprisings aren't likely, they're inevitable.
(voice-over): Expect more of the same, only worse.
Ben Wedeman, CNN, Hebron, on the West Bank.
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BARNETT: The Palestinian perspective there.
Now let's get the Israeli side. The repeated stabbings and other attacks by Palestinians have left many Israelis on edge.
[02:35:04] CHURCH: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed to fight what he calls the wave of terror, saying its root cause is not occupation or settlements, but, quote, "the desire to destroy the state of Israel."
BARNETT: Phil Black visited a Jewish settlement deep inside the West Bank, where people say they are the legitimate residents of the land.
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PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hebron is a sprawling city, home to some 180,000 people, almost all of them Palestinian. The rest, a tiny fraction of the population, drawn here from around the world to fulfill a religious dream.
NIAGH ANON (ph), JEWISH SETTLER, Hebron is the beginning and the cradle and the roots and the foundation of Jewish history.
BLACK: Niagh Anon (ph) is one of around 700 Jews who have settled here in the center of the city, located in the West Bank. Territory Israel took from Jordan during a war in 1967. It's why Palestinians and much of the international community consider this occupied territory.
(on camera): Just out there, there are so many people out there that view you and your community as occupiers. Are these people right when they say that you are occupiers?
ANON (ph): Totally not. Totally not.
BLACK: Why not?
ANON (ph): Because Hebron was liberated by the state of Israel.
BLACK (ph): Israeli soldiers are still here, guarding the handful of streets that make up this isolated community.
A recent video shows the tension that comes with living here. A Palestinian man lies dead, shot by a Jewish settler who said he was defending himself against a knife attack. That inspired wider street clashes between Palestinians and the Israeli forces protecting the Jewish settlement. Jews blame the ongoing violence on what they call an incitement machine, made up of mosques, schools, media, and politicians, which they say train Palestinians to hate Jews. And they insist it's not new.
ANON (ph): These are just some of the victims.
BLACK: Anon (ph) shows me a museum exhibit dedicated to the massacre of 1929 when Palestinians turned on the local Jewish community, murdering 67 people.
ANON (ph): It happened right here against an innocent Jewish community. 40 years before this the State of Israel was even established.
BLACK: There's been lots of violence in Hebron since then, notably here, a sacred site known to Jews as Tomb of the Patriarch, the burial place of the Biblical Abraham. It's holy to Muslims, too. And in 1994, an Israeli Jew massacred 29 Muslims praying here.
(on camera): There's the violence is fueled by the total absence of the peace process, any viable hope of an end to this conflict. The Jews of Hebron don't buy that at all.
(voice-over): Morid Kazzen (ph) settled here more than 30 years ago and voices a theory widely held by many Jews, that Palestinian leaders use incitement and terror to strengthen their hand in pursuing their goals.
MORID KAZZEN (ph), JEWISH SETTLER: The attacks will continue if they think that they're going to achieve a Palestinian state.
BLACK: The idea of a two-state solution, Israel and Palestine as peaceful neighbors, doesn't fly here either. Too much hate, too little land, say the settlers.
KAZZEN (ph): Eventually, the Arabs will have to get used to the idea that we're here to stay.
BLACK: Determination that will be met with more violence because these Jews and the Palestinians resisting them all believe their cause is just.
Phil Black, CNN, Hebron, in the West Bank.
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CHURCH: A change in guidelines for breast cancer screenings that some call confusing. Why an influential group says women should wait longer before getting a mammogram. We're back with that in just a moment.
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[02:42:00] BARNETT: October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and the American Cancer Society is unveiling new guidelines on breast cancer screenings.
CHURCH: They now suggest women who are at average risk of breast cancer should start getting mammograms at age 45 instead of age 40. Now, that's because the risk of getting a false positive could lead to unnecessary procedures.
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UNIDENTIFIED PHYSICIAN: The chances that mammography is actually going to save your life is not very significant at all. So very small decrease in the effectiveness of mammography. A big decrease in the bad things about mammography, and the harms.
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BARNETT: But this is causing a bit of confusion, because these new guidelines mean three different medical groups recommend three different ages for starting mammograms, 40, 45, and 50. Additionally, the American Cancer Society guidelines no longer recommend an annual clinical breast exam.
CHURCH: But breast cancer survivors have argued that earlier mammograms can save lives.
Sarah Fort was 42 when a mammogram detected cancer.
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SARAH FORT, BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR: I was doing self-exams, but I didn't find it. So without the mammogram, it would have been another ten months until my clinical exam. I don't know how long -- how large the tumor might have grown. I mean, I probably would have detected it, but I don't know whether it would have gotten, you know, whether cancer cells might have gotten into my -- into the lymph nodes and into the rest of my body.
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CHURCH: Joining me now to talk more about these new guidelines is Dr. Diana Ramos, a fellow at the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.
Thank you so much for being with us.
Now, these new guidelines from the American Cancer Society are only adding to the confusion for women and appear to assume breast cancer develops later rather than earlier, when we've all seen that early detection has saved women's lives. As a doctor yourself, what's your reaction to these new guidelines?
DR. DIANA RAMOS, FELLOW, THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS: Yes, there can be a lot of confusion and frustration, I would even say, not only on behalf of the patients, but perhaps from some of the health care providers who are having to go through now and read what the differences are in the guidelines.
But the most important thing to remember is that these guidelines are meant to help women identify early breast cancer, especially those who may be at higher risk. You've got to really read the guidelines and realize that the option is there to continue annual breast exam for women who are 40 to 44 years old, and women who are 45 and over. That's where the change, recommendation comes. The American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology still recommends an annual exam every one to two years starting at age 40, but more importantly, a clinical breast exam, which is something different from the American Cancer Society.
So it's really important to read through the details, talk to the health care provider, and see what is the best screening guidelines for that -- for each woman. And together, a joint decision can be made with your health care provider and with that patient.
[02:45:33] CHURCH: Because, of course, the American Cancer Society is now saying that clinical check-up is not necessary, and that is totally confusing women. So what is behind the thinking of these new guidelines? Why does the American Cancer Society think that regular manual checks with their doctors are no longer necessary, as well as mammograms before age 45?
RAMOS: Well, I really can't tell you what the logic was behind what the Cancer Society is, but I can tell you that the American college of obstetrics and gynecology recommends a clinical breast exam, starting at age 19. Now you may say, why the difference? Well, we're looking at clinical data, clinical evaluations that are actually coming out really the progress and the data comes out, but the analysis is done differently. The one thing that I do want to make you aware is that come January, there's going to be a consensus meeting where all of these guidelines are going to be reviewed, along with the American college of obstetrics and gynecology, as well as the American Cancer Society, the U.S. Preventative Task Force. Various key opinion organizations are going to come together to say, let's sit down, like you said, this is a very confusing and can be very frustrating for patients as well as providers. Let's sit down and come up with a consensus statement and a consensus agreement. And it may be at that point, hopefully, we'll have better directions for not only providers, but more importantly for women and their families, and patients.
CHURCH: And that is exactly what they need. Of course these are guidelines, as we say. And each individual woman has to do what she feels is best for her, depending on her risk level.
Dr. Diana Ramos, thanks so much for talking with us. We appreciate it.
RAMOS: Thanks so much for the opportunity.
BARNETT: All right, we have a bit of breaking news coming in to CNN. Russian media quote a Kremlin spokesman saying Syrian President Bashar al Assad flew to Moscow on Tuesday for talks with Vladimir Putin.
CHURCH: The pair discussed the joint military campaign against Islamist militants in Syria. And we'll see if we hear anymore about that meeting.
BARNETT: We'll try to get more details.
For now, we'll take a quick break and be back in a moment.
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[02:51:43] BARNETT: Now for most of you, it's October 21st, that's "Back to the Future" day. This year's celebration of the film's franchise, the anniversary is special because October 21st, 2015, is the future that Marty and Doc went back to.
CHURCH: And they did it in a DeLorean with stainless steel chassis and its flux capacitor.
CNN's Matt Rivers went to Tokyo for a screening of a model after the time machine.
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MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If you've seen the movie, you remember this, the first time we lay our eyes on the time machine in "Back to the Future."
MICHAEL J. FOX, ACTOR: It's a DeLorean.
RIVERS (on camera): And while the entrance in this Tokyo parking lot won't be as dramatic, you'd be forgiven if you thought this model DeLorean just rolled off the movie set.
(voice-over): Point by point, it matches up. Sleek exterior design, check. Speedometer, yep. Flux ka pass tor? Of course. The only difference, the car can't go 88 miles an hour, because it's not street legal.
(on camera): Who is your favorite character from the movie?
MITIEHO IWAMOTO (ph), CAR OWNER: Doc.
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IWAMOTO (ph): Of course.
RIVERS: The owner of this blast from the past is Mitieho Iwamoto (ph). He bought the car from an outfitter in the U.S. Although he wouldn't say how much it costs, he did say it cost over $40,000 U.S. just to ship it.
(on camera): More than a hobby, he bought this car to promote renewable energy sources. You'll remember that the DeLorean in the movie runs on something particular.
UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: I need fuel! Go ahead, quick, get in the car.
RIVERS: And while this DeLorean doesn't run on just regular old garbage, it does run in part on bio-ethanol fuel that he develops by recycling the cotton fibers in old clothing.
(voice-over): In his day job, the 51-year-old entrepreneur runs a business, the purpose of the company, creating renewable energy from things destined to be thrown away, like clothes. His inspiration? The 1985 blockbuster.
IWAMOTO (ph) (through translation): I totally believed that in 30 years there would be a car that runs on garbage. But years went by and that didn't happen. So I thought I'd develop it.
RIVERS: He hopes renewable energy use increases in Japan moving forward, and he's hoping to play at least a small part in making that happen. It's a future he's looking forward to.
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RIVERS: His background, maybe you think he's a chemical engineer or some kind of scientist to start a business like his. Turns out, he worked a relatively normal job in sales and marketing.
Despite being inspired all the way back in 1985, it took him all the way up until about five years ago, when he decided, you know what, I'm done with sales and marketing, I'm going to move into this business. He got some minds, as he called it, that were smarter than his, and he came up with bio-ethanol fuel that he hopes will take off moving forward.
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BARNETT: Wow, that is incredible.
And, Matt, it speaks to how inspirational this movie was to the next generation. How cool was it for you to get inside a DeLorean? That's one of those things we want to do. There's only so many in the world.
[02:55:15] RIVERS: That's right. About 6,000 or so remaining worldwide. And there's a lot of very cool parts about working for CNN, but this would be one of the cooler things I think I've ever got to do. You know, it wasn't a tough assignment to have to take part in.
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CHURCH: All right, Matt Rivers, that is great.
It's just wonderful looking at it, isn't it?
BARNETT: Yeah.
CHURCH: And you got to drive in it, so fabulous stuff.
Good work, great assignment.
BARNETT: Thanks, Matt.
CHURCH: And we'll have much more CNN NEWSROOM after this short break.
BARNETT: And remember, you can always connect with us on social media anytime. We'd love to hear from you.
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[02:59:56] CHURCH: Breaking news, Syria's President Bashar al Assad holds talks with President Putin during a surprise visit to Moscow.
BARNETT: The U.N. chief calls for both sides to pull back from the brink of catastrophe as violence shows no sign of ending in the West Bank.
