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GOP Debate Highlights; Graham Slams Clinton During Debate; Runaway Surveillance Blimp Grounded After Causing Power Outages; Indonesia Smog Kills At Least 19; S.C. School Officer Fired; Violent School Arrest Spotlights School Officers; GOP Candidates Attacks Media, Each Other, Debate Moderators; Fact Checking Trump and Carson on Debate Answers; A Look at Candidate Ben Carson; New York Protects Coast from Climate Change; Prince Harry in U.S. to Promote Invictus Games; Man Saves Half Million Pennies. Aired 2-3a ET
Aired October 29, 2015 - 02:00 ET
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[02:00:27] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: They went after each other, Hillary Clinton, and even the media. All the highlights from the U.S. presidential debate.
Plus, we will take you live to Indonesia where smog from forest fires is causing health hazards.
And the runaway blimp. The scramble to control the U.S. military aircraft that knocked out power to thousands of homes.
Also this hour, the man who counted his pennies for more than four decades. We'll show you how much he saved up.
I'm Rosemary Church. This is CNN NEWSROOM.
We begin with a big night for the U.S. presidential candidates. They held their third debate Thursday night in Boulder Colorado. The economy was the theme but some candidates using their time to go after their opponents on other issues. Here are the memorable moments.
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DR. BEN CARSON, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & RETIRED NEUROSURGEON: The best policy is to get government out of our lives and let people rise and fall based on how good they are. All of this "too big to fail" stuff and picking and choosing winners and losers is a bunch of crap because --
(LAUGHTER)
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CARSON: -- it is causing a great deal -- a great deal of problems for a society right now.
CARLY FIORINA, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER CEO, HEWLETT- PACKARD: I will cut the government down to size and simplify the tax code and roll back the regulations spewing out of Washington. I may not be your dream candidate yet, but I'm Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare, and you can't wait to see a debate between Hillary Clinton and Carly Fiorina.
JOHN HARWOOD, CNBC DEBATE MODERATOR: Mr. Trump?
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: Yes?
HARWOOD: You've done very well in this campaign so far by promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it --
TRUMP: Right.
HARWOOD: Send 11 million people out of the country, cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit --
TRUMP: Right.
HARWOOD: -- and make Americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others.
TRUMP: That's right.
HARWOOD: Let's be honest --
(LAUGHTER)
-- is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?
TRUMP: It's not a comedy. And it's not a very nicely asked question the way you say that.
As far as the wall is concerned, we will build a wall, we're going to create a border, we're going to let people in, but they will come in legally.
JEB BUSH, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER FLORIDA GOVERNOR: Marco, when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term. You should be showing up to work. Literally, the Senate, what is it, like a French workweek? You have three days to show up.
(LAUGHTER)
You can campaign or just resign or let someone else take the job. There are a lot of people are living paycheck to paycheck in Florida. They're looking for a Senator that will fight for them each and every day.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R), FLORIDA & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Someone has convinced you that attacking me will help you.
(CROSSTALK)
(LAUGHTER) RUBIO: Here's the bottom line. I'm not -- my campaign will be about the future of America and not attacking anyone else. I will continue to have tremendous admiration and respect for Governor Bush. I'm not running against Governor Bush and anyone on the stage. I'm running for president.
JOHN KASICH, (R), OHIO GOVERNOR & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We cannot elect someone that didn't know how to do the job. We have to pick somebody with experience and the know-how and the discipline. And I spent my time balancing federal budgets and growing jobs, the same in Ohio, and I will go back to Washington with my plan within 100 days --
(CROSSTALK)
KASICH: -- and it will be strong again.
(CROSSTALK)
CARL QUINTANILLA, CNBC DEBATE MODERATOR: Mr. Trump, 30 seconds.
TRUMP: First of all, John got lucky with a thing called fracking. OK? He hit oil. He got lucky with fracking. Believe me, that's why Ohio has been doing well.
SEN. TED CRUZ, (R), TEXAS & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don't trust the media.
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CRUZ: This is not a cage match. And if you look at the questions -- Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain; Ben Carson, can you do math; John Kasich, will you insult two people over here; Marco Rubio, why don't you resign; Jeb Bush, why have numbers fallen? How about the substantive issues people care about?
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CHURCH: Joining me now from our D.C. bureau to talk more about the Republican debate is CNN political analyst, Josh Rogin. He's also a columnist at "Bloomberg View."
Thank you for being with us.
This, of course, was the chance for the low polling candidates to shine and push Trump and Carson from the lime light. Who came out on top and who flunked the test?
JOSH ROGIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: That's exactly right. Watching the debate, one wouldn't know that Trump and Carson were the front- runners. They didn't have a share of the talking time. The moderators focused questions to second and third-tier candidates. Amongst those, the people who had the best night, according to the commentators, were Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush sparred early and Marco Rubio had the better of the interaction. Ted Cruz attacked the media and the other candidates and got big applause lines. Jeb Bush, who has been sagging in the polls, did not have a good night. Neither did Rand Paul, Chris Christie or John Kasich.
[02:05:39] CHURCH: I wanted to concentrate on some of those stand- out moments. As you mentioned, Donald Trump, going on the attack from the very start, challenging the CNBC moderators about the tone and substance of their questions. Ted Cruz got on board with that. We heard from the crowd they were very excited. How does it play out for the presidential hopefuls when it comes to the polling booth, big picture?
ROGIN: It's an easy calculation that attacking the media, especially the moderators, is a win-win scenario. It plays well with the crowd and they got benefits from it. Trump struck early when he was questioned about his immigration plan. He denied the premise of the question. The CNBC moderator apologized to him. As it turned out, the moderator was right and Trump simply wasn't familiar with his own immigration plan, but he still won the moment. Similarly, when the questioners attacked Marco Rubio for his personal finances, a story that was in "The New York Times," Rubio was able to turn the question back on the moderators and pivot to a story of his own personal struggles and use that as a distinction between himself and Trump. In other instances, the moderators' questions were rejected by the candidates and that seemed to be a winning strategy tonight.
CHURCH: As the headlines start am can be out and analysts start looking at this, who is going to be considered the winner and go forward after this debate with strength and who is going to get dropped from the main stage?
ROGIN: I think you will see bumps in the polls for both Cruz and Rubio and maybe small bumps for Carly Fiorina, who had a decent performance. It won't get them anywhere near the front-runners. Trump and Ben Carson were well ahead. And the people who were in danger of falling off the stage were Rand Paul, Chris Christie and John Kasich.
CHURCH: Josh Rogin, always a pleasure to talk with you. Many thanks.
ROBIN: Any time.
CHURCH: Earlier in the evening, the lowest-polling candidates faced off in a separate less fiery debate. The contenders were Lindsay Graham, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum and George Pataki.
During the debate, Graham slammed Democratic front runners, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R), SOUTH CAROLINA & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: At the end of the day, folks, I am trying to solve a problem and win an election. I'm tired of losing. Good guys, look who we are running against. The number-one candidate on the other side thought she was flat broke after her and her husband were in the White House for eight years. The number-two guy went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon and I don't think he ever came back.
(LAUGHTER)
If we don't beat these people, who the hell are we going to beat?
(LAUGHTER)
QUINTANILLA: Senator, thank you.
(CROSSTALK)
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CHURCH: These men will need to raise their national numbers to qualify for the main stage at the next Republican debate in November.
U.S. authorities are trying to figure out how a military blimp broke loose from its tether in Maryland. The unmanned blimp flew several hours Wednesday and ended up landing in Pennsylvania. It took down several power lines along the way and at one point about 15,000 people were without power in the area.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We saw a blimp about two or three times the size of my house at about 1500 feet coming down slow, descending. What made us worried was there was a mile of cable, it looked like, dragging behind it. Whatever that was going to grab a hold of was really going to cause damage. We did hear breakers opening. When they did open, we saw the power lines and polls start shaking around here.
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CHURCH: The blimp is used to watch out for threats like missiles.
Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr, explains how the government is reacting.
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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: This was an uncontrolled flight. It was tracked by two armed fighter jets in case the military had to bring it down, but they did not. They didn't shoot it down. They tell us that after several hours it began to deflate and it came down over this area in north eastern Pennsylvania. Apparently, its tether cable dragged for some distance knocking out power lines and causing damage. All of this will have to be assessed. Major investigation under way to find out what will happen and why it came loose.
This blimp is full of classified radar technology and the mission is to watch for incoming cruise missiles and unidentified flying aircraft, to watch for any threat to the Washington, D.C. airspace area. Right now, it's all secure, but a lot of questions about what happened and whether this system will ever be used again. (END VIDEOTAPE)
[02:10:42] CHURCH: Thankfully, there no reports of injuries or deaths from the blimp, but the cable was dragging and forced schools to take precautions and classes let out for the day.
To Europe now. Austria says it plans to build a wall at the main border crossing with Slovenia to slow the thousands of migrants entering daily. Earlier, Germany accused Austria of dropping migrants off at the border in the middle of the night.
Germany's interior minster calls Austria's handling of the refugee crisis out of order.
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THOMAS DE MAIZIERE, GERMAN INTERIOR MINISTER (through translation): We observed the refugees without warning and after dark were being driven without provisions or forethought. There were intensive contacts. Austria agreed yesterday to return to an orderly process. I expect this to occur immediately.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CHURCH: Germany said they registered close to a half million migrants and refugees since January.
In a new report, Amnesty International claims Australian officials paid smugglers to take migrants away from the country and towards Indonesia instead. These are the boats Amnesty says were turned away. The evidence is based on interviews with Indonesian police, boat crews, and the passenger who planned to seek asylum in Australia. The Australian Immigration Ministry responded to the reports saying it follows domestic and international law when it came to protecting its border.
Coming up, a sheriff's deputy is fired for slamming a teenager to the floor in a classroom. Why his boss says his actions were partially lawful.
Plus, 19 people have died from a gigantic wave of smog in Indonesia. Now there are plans for a possible evacuation. We will have a live report. Stay with us.
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[02:14:49]KATE RILEY, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: I'm Kate Riley, with your CNN "World Sport" headlines.
Sepp Blatter may well be serving a provisional 90-day suspension but that doesn't mean he still doesn't have plenty to say. The 79-year- old will leave his post as head of football's world governing body, FIFA, when his successor when he was elected next year. On Wednesday, in an interview with a Russian news agency, Blatter blamed with also suspended UAFA president, Michel Plantini, England and the United States for igniting an escalating the corruption scandal.
Liverpool in search of the first win and making his debut on the 9th when he had a great effort that was played off the line, but Nathaniel Kline was there to finish things off and score the winner after 17 minutes. Liverpool had their first victory at the fourth attempt. They're headed to the quarter finals. 35 miles away from Ansel, you will find the great rivals Man United. The Red Devils are trophyless for two years since Sir Alex Ferguson's departure. That one ended, 0-0, after extra time after multiple United misses. Ashley Young had to score, but his effort was saved by keeper and they're celebrating advancing to the quarter finals.
That's a look at all your sports headlines. I'm Kate Riley.
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CHURCH: Health hazards caused by Indonesia's forest fires are getting worse. The country's social minster said at least 19 people have died from the haze. More than half a million others are sick with respiratory illnesses. And now the Indonesian navy is offering to evacuate people.
We want to bring in CNN's David Molko who is in Indonesia.
David, we see behind you military ships on stand by. What are they doing and when might the evacuations get under way?
DAVID MOLKO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Before we get to the ships, I want to mention the weather. It looks like it is about to pour, a welcome respite across this part of the region.
I want to talk about the ships behind me. We were just on board talking to the commander and they were ready to help any way they can. There is a lung specialist on board who has been treating a handful of patients over the past few days including a young baby who was wheezing. There are no mandatory evacuations in place. It rained on and off and we are about to get this rain shower now, perhaps convincing people there is relief, however slight, on the way -- Rosemary?
CHURCH: David, this is a wake-up call for Indonesia. What does the president plan to do to hold those behind the burnings accountable?
MOLKO: It's interesting, Rosemary. With the military ships and the president cutting short his trip in the U.S., he landed a few hours ago in Sumatra, the other hard-hit area. And accountability and responsibility is the million-dollar question. This haze is nothing new. This happens every year, this year worse because it's an El Nino here, because of the dry season, and we haven't seen the rain as early as we usually do. It's a balance between the economy and environment. There's a lot of political pressure moving forward, especially with the climate change conference in Paris coming up and Indonesia's commitments there. But palm oil and paper and pulp, these are the areas that are lucrative, and these are where we see the burning year after year. It's a question of enforcement and getting all officials on the same page. We have seen lots of maps with fires and hot spots. We haven't seen a map of who owns what. When it comes to holding people responsible, the first matter of the government is they have to find out who owns it themselves to be able to move forward.
I want to bring, Rosemary, to the human cost. More than 500,000 people suffering from respiratory infections. Those are just the numbers confirmed. An activist with Greenpeace put it this way, Indonesians shouldn't have to wait until 2020 or beyond to be able to breathe clean air -- Rosemary?
CHURCH: The numbers are boggling. And how they are dealing with it is hard to consider.
David Molko reporting live from Indonesia. Many thanks to you.
[02:20:02] On Thursday, top naval officials from the U.S. and China will reportedly discuss the recent tensions in the South China Sea. Beijing claims a U.S. warship illegally entered its territory around a manmade island on Tuesday and they called the move a very serious provocation. The U.S. doesn't recognize China's territorial claim in the region and said that its mission would continue.
In the U.S. state of South Carolina, a school resource officer is out of a job after a violent classroom take down that ended with him dragging a female student across the floor. Deputy Ben Fields could still face criminal changes and the Justice Department has launched a civil rights investigation. The county sheriffs said the deputy followed procedures up to a point.
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LEON LOTT, SHERIFF, RICHLAND COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: What he should not have done is thrown the student. He could have done a lot of things that he is trained to do, but he was not trained to throw the student. When you make an arrest on someone who doesn't have a weapon that you need to escape from, you never let go of that subject. You remain in control of him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CHURCH: In a statement, the attorney for Fields said, in part, quote, "We believe that Mr. Fields' actions were carried out professionally and he was performing his job duties within the legal threshold."
The county sheriff said it all started because the 16-year-old refused to put her phone away.
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LOTT: The action of our deputies, we take responsibility for that, but we also have to put responsibility on her for disrupting that school, disrupting that class, and causing this incident to start from the very beginning.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: The sheriff also said he hopes the teen was not targeted because of her race.
This is far from the only violent confrontation between officers and students of schools in the United States.
As our Jason Carroll tell us, this case has brought up questions about the role of school resource officers.
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JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since the disturbing images went viral, the spotlight focused not only on the now-fire sheriff's deputy and his actions, but also on the role of school resource officers in the nation's schools.
LOTT: Should he have been called there? Now, that's something we are going to talk to the school district about. Maybe that should have been handled by the teacher and the school administrator without calling the deputy.
BEN FIELDS, FORMER DEPUTY, RICHLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: Are you going to come with me or am I going to make you?
CARROLL: Former Deputy Ben Fields was called to the classroom after the 16-year-old student refused repeated requests to leave by both her teacher and a school administrator. Resource officers are used as a law enforcement tool in some schools.
(SHOUTING)
CARROLL: Just this week, in Sacramento, a resource officer was called to help break up a fight involving about a dozen students. The principal tossed during the fight. Police ended up arresting three teenagers.
Breaking up school fights or trying to manage a defiant student are part of duties, but it is not all of that officer's responsibilities.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We want them involved in counseling within the context of their jobs, getting to know the students and building relationships with them.
CARROLL: Part counselor and part enforcer.
(CROSSTALK)
CARROLL: According to the National School of School Resource Officers, their numbers grew in the late '80s under the DARE program developed to help children stay away from drugs and violence --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They shot a few more times and --
CARROLL: -- growing more after the shooting in Columbine in 1999 after schools felt the need to have access to armed officers. Now some 82,000 SROs are working full or part-time at 43 percent of public schools. And with more officers, more cameras, comes more scrutiny.
A school resource officer in Kentucky faces federal charges for handcuffing two misbehaving children with disabilities.
(CRYING)
CARROLL: In this video, a third-grade boy struggles with the cuffs.
And now in South Carolina, an officer fired from his job and under a federal investigation that could result in even more punishment.
Jason Carroll, CNN, New York.
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CHURCH: U.S. House members are poised to elect a new speaker. They're nominating Paul Ryan to the post. A vote by the full House is set for Thursday. Ryan will take over from John Boehner, and promises to unify a sharply divided membership.
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REP. RAUL LABRADOR, (R), IDAHO: We will give him a chance and have his back for the next few months and make sure that we give him the opportunity to show he can be the leader that we hope he can be.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Should he worry about a vacate-the-chair resolution, an effort to overthrow him if he decides to do things his own way?
LABRADOR: I don't think so. I think if he keeps the promises that he's made, and he's made them very publicly, on all these different issues, I don't think he will have to worry about anything like that.
[02:25:15] UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: So you anticipate tomorrow a vast majority of the Freedom Caucus will support Paul Ryan?
LABRADOR: I don't know that I would describe it as a vast majority, but I think they'll have a majority of the Freedom Caucus, absolutely.
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CHURCH: And Ryan may avoid a major budget battle at the start. The House approved a measure that raises the nation's debt ceiling through March of 2017 and increases defense and domestic spending. Rand Paul is threatening a filibuster in the Senate, but Senate Republicans are confident they can push the measure through.
We will take a short break. Still to come, during the U.S. Republican presidential debate, Donald Trump denied attacking another candidate over immigration. Was he telling the truth? That fact check is just ahead.
Plus, from a troubled childhood to a neurosurgeon, to a man surging in the polls in the race for president, a closer look at Republican candidate, Ben Carson. We are back in a moment.
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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. You are watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Rosemary Church. Let's update you on the main stories we have been watching this hour.
Iran is confirming it will attend Friday's talks on ending the conflict in Syria. The U.S. called the meeting in Vienna. Saudi Arabia, Russia, Turkey and Iraq are among the other countries to attend. This comes as amateur videos appearing online reportedly showing Syrian regime helicopters dropping barrel bombs on a suburb of Damascus. The authenticity of the video cannot be verified.
[02:30:11] Austria says it plans to build a fence on the border with Slovenia to slow the influx of migrants. This comes as Germany accuses Austria of dropping refugees at its border after dark. A German federal police official said the country has registered some 20,000 new migrants this week.
Authorities in Pennsylvania have secured a military blimp that broke loose from the tether in Maryland taking down power lines in its wake. The unmanned blimp flew loose over the north eastern U.S. for several hours on Wednesday. The blimp is used to watch out for potential threats like missiles against the U.S.
In the U.S., presidential race, the Republican candidates turned their attacks towards the media and each other at their third debate Wednesday night. The economy was the theme, but some contenders put the focus on their rivals instead.
CNN's Sarah Murray was here and has the latest.
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SARAH MURRAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The stakes were high for a number of candidates on stage at the third debate in Boulder, Colorado last night. They came out swinging early.
Perhaps the most memorable was when Jeb Bush took on a man he calls his friend, Florida Senator Marco Rubio, taking him to task for skipping votes to run for president.
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JEB BUSH, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER FLORIDA GOVERNOR: Marco, when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term and you should be showing up to work. Literally, the Senate, what is it, like a French workweek?
(LAUGHTER)
You get like three days where you have to show up. You can campaign or just resign and let someone else take the job. SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R), FLORIDA & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Over the
last few weeks, I listened to Jeb as he walked around the country and said that you are modeling your campaign after John McCain, that' you're going to launch a cam back the way he did by fighting hard in New Hampshire and places like that, carry your own bag at the airport.
(CROSSTALK)
RUBIO: Do you know how many votes John McCain missed when he was carrying out that serious come back that you're now modeling under?
(CROSSTALK)
RUBIO: Now, Jeb, I don't remember -- well, let me tell you, I don't remember you ever complaining about John McCain's vote record. The only reason why you are doing it now is because we are running for the same position and someone has convinced you that attacking me is going help you.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MURRAY: The immediate reaction from that moment was the attack may have backfired on Jeb Bush. Marco Rubio may have capitalized on that moment.
Even though Donald Trump and Ben Carson are the front-runners, the biggest fireworks didn't come from them. You had to look out to candidates like Ted Cruz. He is running looking to pull support from Trump and Carson. He did that by going after the media.
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SEN. TED CRUZ, (R), TEXAS & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrates why the American people don't trust the media.
(APPLAUSE)
CRUZ: This is not a cage match. If you look at the questions -- Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain? Ben Carson, can you do math? John Kasich, will you insult two people over here? Marco Rubio, why don't you resign? Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen? How about talking about the substantive issues people care about?
(CHEERING)
APPLAUSE)
MURRAY: Now Ted Cruz was not the only Republican unhappy about the debate. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus came out to the spin room afterwards and said he was disappointed in CNBC.
Sarah Murray, CNN, Boulder, Colorado.
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CHURCH: During the debate, Donald Trump denied attacking on immigration.
CNN's Tom Foreman did a fact check to see if he was telling the truth.
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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What happened in this moment in this whole debate was that the Trump issued a couple of denials made by Becky Quick, the moderator. She asked him specifically about the attacks on Marco Rubio over these special visas for immigrants to come in and work. He denied ever attacking Rubio, not once, but twice. Listen.
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BECKY QUICK, CNBC DEBATE MODERATOR: You have been critical of Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook who wanted to increase the number of these H1Bs.
DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: I was not at all critical of him. I was not at all. In fact, frankly, he is explaining about the fact that we are losing some of the most talented people. They go to Harvard and Yale and Princeton. They come from another country and they are immediately sent out. I am in favor of keeping these talented people here so they can go to work in Silicon Valley.
(CROSSTALK)
TRUMP: I am not at all critical of him.
QUICK: Where did I read this to come up where you were --
TRUMP: Probably, I don't know. You people write this stuff. I don't know.
QUICK: You talked a little bit about Marco Rubio. I think you called him Mark Zuckerberg's personal Senator because he was in favor of the H1Bs?
TRUMP: I never said that. I never said that.
QUICK: This was an erroneous article?
TRUMP: There's another gentlemen in Florida, who happens to be a nice guy, but not --
QUICK: My apologies.
TRUMP: Somebody is really doing some bad fact checking.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
FOREMAN: Really doing bad fact checking. Twice here, he is saying, no, didn't attack Rubio and Zuckerberg. Never said anything about this. So where on earth did she get this idea? You know where she got it? Donald Trump's website, where he says "Mark Zuckerberg's personal Senator has a bill to triple H1B visas that would decimate women and minorities."
The bottom line is Trump tried to bluff her, he tried to do it twice, she called him on the bluff. And she was right. His claim was false.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
[02:35:34] CHURCH: Tom Foreman there.
Well, we also did a fact check on something Ben Carson said. Here's the exchange with the moderator who pressed him about his plan.
QUICK: You have a flat tax plan of 10 percent flat taxes and looked at it and this is something appealing to a lot of voters, but I had a tough time trying to make the math work. If you took a 10 percent tax with the numbers on total personal income, you will bring in $1.5 trillion. That is less than half of what we bring in now and it will leave us with a $2 trillion hole. What analysis got you to the point where this will work?
DR. BEN CARSON, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & RETIRED NEUROSURGEON: First of all, I didn't say the rate would be 10 percent. I used the tithing analogy.
QUICK: I understand that, but if you look at the numbers, you probably --
(CROSSTALK)
CARSON: OK, but the rate -- the rate will be closer to 15 percent.
(CROSSTALK)
QUICK: 15 percent, that still leaves you with $1.20 trillion hole.
CARSON: Let me finish. You also have to get rid of the deductions and the loopholes. You also have to do some strategic cutting in several places. We have 645 federal agencies and sub-agencies. Anybody who tells me that we need every penny and every one of those is in a fantasy world. Also, we can stimulate the economy. That's going to be the real growth engine, stimulating the economy because it is tethered down with so many regulations.
(CROSSTALK)
QUICK: You have to cut government by about 40 percent to make it work with the $1.1 trillion.
CARSON: It's not true. And --
QUICK: It is true. I looked at the numbers.
CARSON: When we put all the facts down, you will be able to see it's not true. It works out very well.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CHURCH: OK, well some of our researchers looked into Carson response. We found that he has at least once put a more exact figure on his flat tax idea and it was close to 10 percent in September. Carson said his personal tax income rate would probably be 11.5 percent with a 4 percent value added tax on nonessentials.
From a troubled youth to the front-runner in the Republican Party, Ben Carson has come a very long way.
Suzanne Malveaux takes a look at the man behind the candidate.
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CARSON: I'm a candidate for president of the United States.
(CHEERING)
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dr. Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, hailed as a miracle worker, now also a political lightning rod for controversial statements that have, in part, catapulted him to the top.
CARSON: Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that happened in this nation since slavery.
I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation.
MALVEAUX: His views about gays, Muslims, abortion and slavery have not hurt him with the GOP. He has seen a bounce from white evangelicals who have embraced him.
But Carson's new outspoken persona alienated some who revered him, particularly African-American doctors inspired by his story.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Doctor Carson is the reason I chose to go to Johns Hopkins, and to see him embrace a platform harmful to the health of many is hurtful.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His slippery use of slavery as an analogy for everything is so offensive to African-Americans.
MALVEAUX: Before Carson announced his candidacy, he was a hero for his rags-to-riches story, growing up in poverty in Detroit.
ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS, BEN CARSON'S BUSINESS MANAGER: -- roaches, rats, leaky roofs, barely food on the table. But his mother loved him.
MALVEAUX: She worked three jobs as young Ben Carson struggled as a troubled teen with a temper that included a knife fight where he almost stabbed a friend.
WILLIAMS: They had no father in the household so he was so fearful their mother will work herself to death and they would grow up as orphans.
MALVEAUX: Carson said that incident forced him to turn his life around. He found God and went on to become one of the top neurosurgeons in the country, being the first to separate twins conjoined at the head. He wrote about his turnaround in his own book, which was made into a movie.
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UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: If somebody doesn't operate on this man soon, he will die.
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MALVEAUX: He set up a scholarship program for poor high school students, challenging them to go to college.
And friends say he never forgot where he came from.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There has been no one on this side of Martin Luther King that has meant that much to the black community.
[02:40:07] MALVEAUX: Despite the focus by some on his controversial statements, friends who have known him for decades, like Armstrong Williams, say Carson and his message have not changed.
WILLIAMS: Doctor Carson has talked about slavery for years. You can have these conversations and it's nothing new.
MALVEAUX: Dr. Ron Anderson, who has known Carson for more than 30 years and has worshipped with him as a Seventh Day Adventist, says Carson's life is about his faith and devotion to giving back.
DR. RON ANDERSON, FRIEND OF BEN CARSON: I hear people say, well, Ben needs to realize where he came from. Ben realizes where he came from.
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CHURCH: And that was Suzanne Malveaux reporting.
It has been three years since Superstorm Sandy struck New York, and now the city is going through a major renovation to make sure it could handle another sizable storm. We will have that when we come back.
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CHURCH: "Two Degrees Celsius" is the most crucial number when it comes to climate change. Experts say if average global temperatures rise above it, we are at risk for global catastrophes.
We want to take a look at coastal cities which are threatened by climate change. It has been three years since Superstorm Sandy hit the U.S. east coast, and New York City is in the middle of a renovation program to protect the coast.
CNN's Claire Sebastian reports.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) CLAIRE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Traveling by dinghy in New York's choppy harbor, you get a firsthand view of the shifting tide.
My guide is Alexander Washburn, New York's urban design chief under Mayor Bloomberg and now a professor in coastal resiliency.
ALEXANDER WASHBURN, PROFESSOR IN COASTAL RESILIENCY: All this area in the battery was breached during Sandy and we've just finished the new subway stop. It was completely ruined.
[02:45:09] SEBASTIAN: Three years ago, Superstorm Sandy brought a record 13-foot storm surge at Battery Park, knocking out power and flooding much of the financial district. Throughout the city, over 300,000 homes were damage and 44 people died.
Then, Mayor Michael Bloomberg launched a program to bolster the fragile shoreline.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've already put in place sand on the beaches and 10 miles of dunes have been constructed. We are safer than when Sandy hit.
SEBASTIAN: The city tightened up building codes and they committed another $100 million for Manhattan.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The idea is we're going to integrate flood protection in the neighborhood so we are finding a mix of permanent and deployable or temporary measures that can be brought to bear and provide that protection when needed.
SEBASTIAN (voice-over): With 520 miles of coastline, New York has always been vulnerable to storms. Now, scientists say climate change has created a double threat.
(voice-over): Not only are storms like Sandy expected to become much more frequent but sea levels will also rise. One forecast put it at six feet by the end of the century. You don't have to be a scientist to see New York doesn't have six feet to spare.
Planning ahead will help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the first of a new generation super-high resolution sensors. They will be the first line of defense.
WASHBURN: We are asking government to be more nimble. That's really the challenge. Is our government able to make decisions fast enough that we are going to succeed?
SEBASTIAN: Alex Washburn lived through Sandy on the first floor of his house, still boarded up. A painted blue line shows where the government recommends raising the living space to survive a similar flood.
WASHBURN: I don't think we can fully defend against the water, so we have to manage a relationship with it. SEBASTIAN: The challenge now, to manage it quicker than the rising tide.
Claire Sebastian, CNN, New York.
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CHURCH: Prince Harry makes a trip to Washington with a special purpose. The details are ahead.
Plus --
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OTHA ANDERS, SAVED HALF A MILLION PENNIES: I became fascinated with my piles of pennies. I have not spent a penny in 40-plus years. I will break a dollar before I would spend a penny.
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CHURCH: It took decades for one man to save a half million pennies. Find out what he would decide to spend the money on.
Back in a moment.
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[02:49:08] PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: A bit of a drying trend returning towards the eastern U.S. after some heavy rainfall in the past couple of days.
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CHURCH: Word just coming in of the stabbing of an Israeli soldier. The Israel Defense Forces says a Palestinian stabbed a soldier in Hebron near the Tomb of the Patriarch. The attacker was shot. A police spokesman said the area has been closed off and the soldier is receiving medical treatment.
Britain's Prince Harry spent the day in Washington meeting with President Barack Obama and promoting the Invictus Games. The prince started the games for injured and sick military personnel last year in London. And he joined First Lady Michelle Obama at a wheelchair basketball game to underscore the need for programs to help soldiers' recovery.
Diane Sherp (ph) has more.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DIANE SHERP (ph), CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's not often you have the first lady, Prince Harry and Dr. Jill Biden cheering on your team. But today, wounded servicemembers had a chance to show off their skills on the court in wheelchairs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is really good and it helps with recovery and rehabilitation.
SHERP (ph): It's in an effort to promote the Invictus Games next year here in the U.S. He started the games after seeing a similar event in Colorado two years ago and wanted to make it an international competition.
PRINCE HARRY: The Invictus Games seek to change perceptions of physical and mental injury.
SHERP (ph): Specialist Stephanie Morris was injured in 2013 in Afghanistan.
STEPHANIE MORRIS, WOUNDED VETERAN: We got indirect fire. Two rocket- propelled grenades came in back to back, so I had a left femur fracture and right foot fracture.
SHERP (ph): She says that out of the five people she was with, she was the only one who survived.
MORRIS: I had a hard time dealing with it.
SHERP (ph): Morris says being around others helped her in the road to recovery. She said it took nearly a year before she gave sports a chance.
MORRIS: It was hard to cope are finding a new normal and I played sports before injury and I'm like, well, how do you do this?
SHERP (ph): But since she gave it a shot, she hasn't looked back, helping her turn her life around and building lifelong relationships through the love of the game.
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CHURCH: And the Invictus Games will be held in Orlando, Florida, next year.
You've probably heard "a penny saved, a penny earned," and one man saved more than a half million pennies, which comes out to a little bit more than $5,000. 73 year old Otha Anders, from Louisiana, cashed in his penny savings to help pay a dental bill after saving up for more than 40 years.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) ANDERS: I started this probably in the late 60s, early 70s. Started putting them in these jugs to the point that now I have acquired 15 water jugs. It just seemed like it was initiated by the fact that if I would see a penny on the ground or the hall way or anywhere, I would say a prayer of thanks and say this is got a way of reminding me that I should always be thankful and I fail to pray, I would see a penny and it would remind me to pray. I became fascinated with the pennies. The children who knew I was saving pennies would bring their pennies to me. I would never let anyone give me a penny. Not even my children or my wife. I wanted the satisfaction deep inside that God and I together did this. I have not spent a penny in 40-plus years. I would break a dollar before I would spend a penny. Back in the late 60s or early 70s, the government was giving $25 extra for every $100 of pennies you would turn in. Even then, I refused to turn them in to earn the extra $25 per 100.
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[02:55:37] CHURCH: It shows you every penny does count.
Thanks to Christa Bordeaux (ph) from CNN's affiliate, KTEV, for that report.
I'm Rosemary Church. Remember to keep in touch on Twitter.
I'll be back with another hour of CNN NEWSROOM after this very short break. Don't go anywhere.
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[02:59:58] CHURCH: Put up or shut up. Republicans duke it out with each other and the media in their third presidential debate. A look at who won big and who may have to pack it in.
